England in India 2012

Confident England want series win - Gooch

George Dobell in Kolkata

December 9, 2012

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Nick Compton shakes hands with Virender Sehwag after England's win, India v England, 3rd Test, Kolkata, 5th day, December 9, 2012
Graham Gooch praised England's batsmen after victory in Kolkata put them 2-1 up in the series © BCCI
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Graham Gooch has hailed England's back-to-back Test wins in India as a "monumental achievement". Gooch, the highest run-scorer in England's Test history and the side's current batting coach, claimed England were now "in the ascendancy", but warned that with one Test remaining, plenty of hard work lay ahead if they were to claim their first series win in India since 1984-85.

After losing the first Test in Ahmedabad, England won in Mumbai and Kolkata to take a 2-1 lead with one match to play. While Gooch praised the team for their fightback, he also suggested India might prepare a "result pitch" for the last Test in Nagpur, starting on Thursday, to maximise their chances of securing a result to draw the series.

"It was a monumental achievement," Gooch said. "We know these conditions are sometimes alien to English players. We lost the first Test, we took a bit of a beating there, and in their conditions - India have set up the conditions in Mumbai and Kolkata - our guys have responded magnificently. Let's be fair, they've outplayed India in both the last two Tests.

"When you go 1-0 down against hosts who have a very good record in their own conditions, it's very satisfying when you can turn it round and use the skills you have practised long and hard to outplay the opposition.

"But I don't think for one minute that the guys think the job is done. We're 2-1 up with one to play. We want a positive result in Nagpur. I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying it's going to be a result pitch in Nagpur. If I was India I would want a result pitch to take my chances.

"The things MS Dhoni has said after Mumbai I totally agree with - he wants to play on pitches that produce results and I don't have a problem with that. I'd rather have a pitch that produces a result that one that produces 600 plays 600. So we know it's likely to be a pitch where it will be tough for the batsmen, with the ball turning. But after our last two performances we can go there with confidence and we've got to make sure we bring our A game to Nagpur."

Gooch was particularly keen to credit Alastair Cook for England's revival. Cook scored his third century of the series and the 23rd of his Test career to set up the victory in Kolkata and has also impressed as a new captain in helping his side come from behind in a series in conditions where many expected them to struggle.

"He's always been an impressive young man, mature beyond his years," Gooch said. "He works hard at his game. We've spent hours and hours in the nets over a long period of time and credit to him, he's the one who deserves to take the plaudits. He's worked hard at all types of his technique against spin, pace and swing bowling and he's had some low moments - as you do as a player - and now he's reaping the rewards for that hard work.

"We showed lots of character coming back, but Alastair is a character who tried to keep his feet on the ground in defeat or in success and when he does well or has a bad day. It's a good way to approach it. He's very level-headed. From the time he first came into the Essex professional set-up to the time he scored his first Test hundred, he has been very mature about his cricket. He knows exactly what he wants and he knows how to go about it. He works very hard and, generally, that's a winning combination.

"He has led this team really well. He's still learning as a captain and he'll continue to develop. He's only new to captaincy. He's had a good start, there'll be highs and lows along the way but he'll take them equally and move forward. English cricket is lucky to have a player like him at the head of their team."

Gooch also praised the desire and commitment of England's other batsmen. "The guys have worked hard at their game," he said. "Our guys have a good work ethic. They've taken on board all the help they've been given about playing the turning ball and how to shape their technique. Credit to them, they've worked hard since the first training camp in Mumbai. All the work they've put in over a long period of time has now started to show rewards. We've got to make sure we carry that on in the next game and perform well there and come away from this country with our supporters being proud of the England cricket team."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by Fan1969 on (December 12, 2012, 13:55 GMT)

Still cannot understand how Sachin has not announced retirement till now. How will selectors select him for Aus tests if he fails in this test. Will he then retire like Dravid, Laxman or can he manage a test like Kumble, Saurav, Ponting, Steve Waugh etc. I wish he retires now and gets the crowd and opposition applause that Ponting just now received. It will be sad to see him retire without a last match farewell.

Posted by   on (December 12, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

@naresh: Now that India is constantly losing test matches, it suddenly prefers ODI and T20 cricket? What is this, a joke?! Are you even a proper cricket follower? Test cricket is real cricket, kiddo. Go get some candy for yourself instead of posting baseless and hypocritical opinions; opinions which keep changing due the course of time.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 11, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

"Ajmal and Rehman are better than Swann and Monty", no @jb633, not yet. They may be potentially better than the English spin duo but till they perform in *all* conditions, like the English spinners have, they cannot be called the best. Rehman will not get a game in Aus/Eng/SA/NZ unless Ajmal is unavailable. Same with Monty although he has played in all these countries before Swann burst into the scene. They have not been successful together till the Mumbai test but the fact of the matter is that the English spinners have played in all conditions - Swann, in fact, has 5 wicket hauls against all countries and in all countries sans UAE where he has a very good average still.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 11, 2012, 22:25 GMT)

@JG2704, re: ODIs/T20s, I don't think you are actually giving us the credit we deserve. We were stuffed by India last year and by the Aussies previous year, no doubt but look at our ODI results otherwise - we beat Pakistan in the UAE and at home, SL home and away (surprising but we did in the last bilateral series in 2007-2008 although we lost the WC quarterfinals), WI home and away, India and Australia at home and SA away. The only team we lost to both home and away was NZ and that was a while back. I am confident that we will be able to reverse our results against them if we play now. We are not a great ODI team but we are definitely a good ODI team. Against India away, I agree. We were woeful. Let's see how we perform this time. With KP, Morgan, and Swann back for that series, and Cook and Finn doing well, I won't totally discount our chances.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 11, 2012, 18:09 GMT)

@AKS286 on (December 11 2012, 14:23 PM GMT) What is your thing with Suppiah? He had a terrible last season with Somerset and may not even get into their 1st 11 next year

Posted by Last_ride on (December 11, 2012, 15:43 GMT)

I am a saffer and i normally never visit these pages. Very good work England. I predicted This to happen as England were humiliated by South Africa and their preparation has been Fantastic.But i will say this if England had held there catches properly they would have come to India as the No1 Side in the world.This is coming from Saffer.

Posted by BravoBravo on (December 11, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

Undisputed fact_ IND has always been a mediocre team, and will remain the same. Look at their 80 years record, WORST WIN to LOSS ratio (all formats of the game) among all the major test playing nations (AUS, ENG, PAK, SA, WI). IND cricket is not even worthy of hype. Couple years ago when IND won its 100th Test (Ponting alone won 100 test by that time), it was a big occasion, they gone crazy, Tendulkar went out of control and sidelined MSD to steal the gloyr (if there was any) from Team Captain MSD, such a shallow act. Ironically PAK was winning its 105th Test in NZ at the same time. IPL remains there for sadistic pleasure of IND fans. Oh, last time I heard WI is the T20 world champion now. About ODI, IND is not going to Win even league matches in ODI world cup.

Posted by Nampally on (December 11, 2012, 15:17 GMT)

@Valalan: Sorry Sir, I don't "Eat Pie" - humble or otherwise! I believe in the law of averages & probabilities. That is why I think every success will be matched by a failure especially when the 2 teams are not so far apart in ability. Cook scored big but his innings were never "chanceless"! . If his first chance is taken, he will fall cheaply too. He is due to run out of luck, that is what I meant. Yes every failed Indian Cricketers like Kohli & Tendulkar, also will have their day of 15 minutes of glory. Cricket is a game of Glorious chance, having played it myself in India & abroad. If you read my comments correctly, I said Panesar & Swann were not as effective in Kolkatta as in Mumbai - true statement. Also, I don't eat grapes sour or otherwise!. Eating Kilos of grapes is not in our culture. I also believe in being polite & expect it to be reciprocated.

Posted by spindian on (December 11, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

@Shan156. Lol! Let me apologise on behalf of some of my Indian brothers. One possible reason may be that many are blinded by competitiveness. England have truly played magnificently, and well deserve their lead. On a player by players comparison, each one of the England XI have played their Indian counterpart - with the exception of Pujara vs. Trott. I just wish that the silent minority of test cricket fans in India (not necessarily fans of Indian cricket), would be more vocal on Cricinfo. Believe me, we do exist. Its been a riveting series, and I hope that Nagpur provides us another great match - wish for a result in the last session on Day 5!

Posted by Nampally on (December 11, 2012, 14:32 GMT)

@JG2704:Thanks - I am an eternal optimistic but my hopes get badly dashed by inept "New" Indian Selectors. I think you are one of the few balanced England fans & I always admire your politeness in comments. Some England fans are also asking Indian fans to "Eat a humble Pie" . Really? Is that necessary when Cricket is a game of "glorious chance". Kolkatta Test turned on its back on Cook's dropped catch at 17 . If that chance was held, the result could have been reversed- like the results betn. First & Second Tests. When a match rests on one or 2 crucial blunders, it is strange to see Gooch gloating. Yes Cook was great in the series in compiling huge scores but he was also lucky. Indian Fans have been asking for younger team right from First test to improve the mobility in the field .This is the first time the Selectors have obliged - not necessarily fully or with right names but younger ones! I am hoping a step improvement in the fielding & in intensity than shown by 3 outgoing guys!.

Posted by AKS286 on (December 11, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

about Nathan Lyon- Michael Beer is better than lyon in all 3 formats of the game. the opportunity was given to lyon when Oz was on tour of SL. SL is the place in which a school boy can turn up the ball and can pick 2-3 wickets. BEER was ignored on that SL tour because lyon is a Clarke's boy.lyon is the worst spinner. again he is going to SL.hauritz is the victim of the clarke's senior axing policy.

Posted by AKS286 on (December 11, 2012, 14:23 GMT)

yes mr. Gooch is right the series is still alive. if cook will not perform then i think ENG will sink in the turning track. trott, KP, Bell are flop, samit patel is the super flop with bat as well as with bowl. Morgan must replace samit. i really miss Suppiah in the sub continent. toss is important here and i know Mr. lucky means dhoni will won the toss and bat. as i always says finn, onion, meaker are better than broad. what i don't like is the tactics against ashwin really eng looks like clueless, on the backfoot.

Posted by   on (December 11, 2012, 13:59 GMT)

All these Indian fans talks amongst themselves trying to make excuses. India are very good at that. They need to face up to harsh realities if they desire to be number one once again. I used to respect INdIA before but now it is bordering on the laughabable not like those players way back when they have the likes of Kapil Dev, Gavaskar, Vengsarker, Viswanath, Engineer, Bedi, etc...England did after losing in UAE and to South AFrica (That was painfu lto watch) Come on Indina fans stop putting your heads in the sand and WAKE UP !!

Posted by RedRoseMan on (December 11, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

@TheBengalTiger (10 December 17.09pm). Utter rubbish! For a start, as far as I can see in the article Gooch didn't compare Cook and Tendulkar. But leaving that aside, for the period that their careers have overlapped they have faced pretty much exactly the same bowling attacks - although Cook has of course faced India's "rubbish bowling attack" whereas Tendulkar has faced England's "very best" attack (your words not mine). And on top of that Cook plays half of his Tests in England where of course, if you believe most Indian fans, he has always to bat on seamer friendly green-tops, whereas Tendulkar plays half of his Tests on what up until recently have been Indian featherbed pitches where the average first innings score is about 600-3!!

But why let the facts get in the way of an opinion, eh?

Posted by Texmex on (December 11, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

As an Indian it is better for India to lose this series. This will start the process of making hard decisions - removing Dhoni, Yuvraj from test cricket, dropping Gambhir for form, and allowing Sachin to retire etc etc. OTOH if we had won this series it would have just papered the cracks.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 11, 2012, 12:48 GMT)

@jb633 December 11 2012, 09:32 AM GMT I agree the results of the last 2 tests have been due to good relentless attritional cricket by England and an Indian team with no fire in their bellies. On paper, for the most part player for player, England is the better team and if they play in the same way as they have throughout the series barring the 1st innings implosion at Ahmedabad, I do not see India come back into this series and that may not be a bad thing for Indian cricket depending on the response if any from the BCCI.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 11, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

@Nampally on (December 11 2012, 00:28 AM GMT) I admire your optimism there

@Shan156 - re our friend Mr Ankur (slang rhyme?) - I think he must be hugely gutted that he can't write about how we're the worst players of spin as he nearly always does each time he resurfaces

Posted by JG2704 on (December 11, 2012, 10:18 GMT)

@jb633 on (December 11 2012, 09:32 AM GMT) I think Lyon is a better bowler than many of us think. He did particularly well on their tour of SL which would make me think he'd do well in India too. I'm not sure how good their back up options are mind

@Shan156 - re ODIs , I have to be honest and say I don't think we're as good as the ratings say. We are mainly there because we beat Aus (who were number 1 but had a woeful series) 4-0. I do think India will beat us well in both T20 and ODIs.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 11, 2012, 9:57 GMT)

INDIAN SELECTORS - have always been confused by the amount of talent we have. Really today if the entire Indian test squad were replaced we could find ample talent to make a NEW, YOUNG SQUAD from the following lot of players just to give a few:- RAHANE, BISLA, MANDEEP, PUJARA, KOHLI, RAYUDU, TIWARI, SHARMA,HAND, JADEJA, PATHAN, YADAV, PANKAJ. RAINA, AWANA the list goes on To create the best squad in India we need a good professional set up. This means nly the best play the best. There is a need for a two tier system. The domestic system needs a complete overhual

Posted by jb633 on (December 11, 2012, 9:32 GMT)

@ChrisP- Whilst I think Lyon is a good spinner I don't really see him performing well in India. I don't want to trash talk but it must be acknowldged that Monty and Swann are probably behind onl;y Ajmal and Rehman in terms of a spin duo. If Oz can get everyone fit, big if, then they have a chance. I don't really envisage Hilfy, Siddle, Lyon doing too much damage in the SC though. If Cummins and Starc were fit then they would have a sniff. Personally I don't see Aus winning a series in India or the UAE. They were the better side overall against SA though and I was bitterley dissappointed to see all the injuries plague them in the third test which gave SA an easy win. @itsthewayuplay- granted the side is not as good as the one of say 2005-2008. But the fact is that up wtill this series India have dominated home series with much the same side as here. IMO it is the pressure England have exerted that has made India face up to the losses of their great players.

Posted by Valavan on (December 11, 2012, 9:02 GMT)

@Nampally, how often you eat a humble pie, if you say Panesar not effective in Kolkata and Cook due a failure, exactly, you got cook for 1 in 2nd innings. As an optimistic fan, i wish Trott,Bell and Prior due a century and Finn and Anderson due a 5 wicket haul per innings. Usually Indians at peak dance in Nagpur, may be now a slow low and flat wicket expected, ofcourse Ojha due a big failure too as he leads wicket taking abilities and Dhoni due a series loss in India too. How many kilos of sour grapes you eat daily, buy a few more kilos and distribute to Cpt.meanster, gupta.ankur and other howlers.cricinfo please publish.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 11, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

Totally agree with Cpt.Meanster India prefers ODI/T20 cricket than 5 day games. We seem to unearth better players in this category. Since most of the six past stars have retired (Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman) and only two left (Shewag/Sachin) - we have not got any replacements coming thru with only Pujara looking the part. Also Kumble provided for us in all formats on bowling front. BCCI have been the key in encouraging this format. Maybe its time for BCCI to runumerate TEST players with better conditions than the shorter format players.

Posted by jango_moh on (December 11, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

as an indian fan, i think the dropping of zak, yuvi and bhajji are welcome changes... this is a team in transition, and it will take a few losses, remember, even the spinners are pretty new to tests.... so i would give it some time, but some more ppl need to be axed, gambhir being one of them(i know he made some runs, but he doesnt look comfortable)... i hope sachin retires gracefully, and the BIGGEST change would be for dhoni to quit playing tests, he is a great odi/t20 captain, but tests r not for him....

Posted by subbass on (December 11, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

Even if India win you have to remember that 4-0 was the only result they considered worth having before the series ! Pressure is 100% off England and 1,000% on India, I guess you can argue that could be a negative, but it's more likely to be a positive unless they really - mentally speaking - are back in the airport lounge ! Plus England has the two better spinners. But our batting has looked a bit brittle at times then again theirs has looked ultra brittle most the time. Should be a good one though, may the best side win !

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 11, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Nampally on (December 11 2012, 02:20 AM GMT) Harbajhan a passenger in last 2 tests, he didn't play in the last test did h?. The first innings of the first test was a result of not picking 2 spinners, look at the wickets Swann took, and the unsporting master plan of denying England any exposure to spin bowling/tracks in any warm up games. Bonobo surely even the most rose coloured glasses could not really think "could it just be that the transition from a quite expcetional era of players" is actually true, on the basis of being good at home (oh and drawing a series in SA). Be realistic, as an England fan I admit the hammering of Aus away and India at home made me believe the media hype of greatness when in reality we were/are a very good side based on an ethos of team work hard work, sometimes you have to be honest to yourself and look at the harsh facts.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 11, 2012, 4:22 GMT)

@subbass, you have to forgive our friend gupta.ankur here. He has been posting the same drivel in all articles. Fact of the matter is, these guys were expecting India to simply turn up to win 4-0. The fact that England lead the series now is something these guys simply cannot accept. Even more comical was another Indian fan posting yesterday that England should "come to Nagpur" and we will see who is a better team. The slogan has changed from "Come to India, we will see" to "Come to Nagpur, we will see". Some have already started saying that England have no hope in the T20s or ODIs ignoring the 4th test. As you say, the main difference between the two teams is not KP or Monty or Swanny or even Cooky. It is the team ethic, fitness, determination, and the willingness to put the hard yards to win. I rate this England win above our Ashes win down under. Let's hope the boys deliver one more time in Nagpur. Go England!

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (December 11, 2012, 3:47 GMT)

@Chris_P, Hope aus have a good tour of India, and put the final nail in the coffin. Also looking forward to the Ashes, its going to be a great summer next year, the aussies have a chance of winning the ashes but a lot depends on the fitness of the bowling unit, Pattinson, Starc and Cummins should all prosper in english conditions, Lyon im still not convinced about, but have yet to see him bowl at any length. Batting wise, Clarke and Hussey will be the danger men, with the rest inexperienced, but not to be underestimated especially Warner and Wade.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 11, 2012, 3:28 GMT)

@Dhanno: Have you ever read some of my earlier comments congratulating the England team on memorable test wins ? Were you so naive to even forget India are a much better limited overs team ? My comment carries enough proof and weight to render gravity useless. It's easy to criticize someone for their opinions. I don't know about Gupta Ankur but I am a fair minded Indian supporter who knows India will never be a good test team again for some years to come.

Posted by Nerk on (December 11, 2012, 2:42 GMT)

England have played better than India in the last two matches. Simple as that. But this is a new match, and India will be doing everything to win it. I would not be surprised to see India level the series. Then I would not be surprised at a lot of annoyed cricket fans asking why test series of this calibre do not span 5 matches.

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (December 11, 2012, 2:41 GMT)

I hope India wins. It's fairly unlikely though given the way that each of the teams are playing. Sehwag needs to ton up in Nagpur.

Posted by Nampally on (December 11, 2012, 2:20 GMT)

When the going is good, winning team gets all occlades. The problem is after winning the first Test, India seem to have lost there way. There were too many passengers in the last 2 Tests which included Harbhajan, ZAK & Yuvraj. They have been replaced with younger players. The 3 new guys can bat, bowl & field & will grossly improve the fielding. If Dhoni plays his cards right, India has a chance to redeem some of their pride. Hopefully India will not drop Cook at 17, again! Many forget that Cook, very consistent England batsman, was also lucky on the way to big scores in all 3 Tests. Panesar & Swann bowled well & India played them much better at Kolkatta than in Mumbai.India needed a RH leg spinner like Rahul Sharma to combat Monty.They chose Chawla instead of Rahul. Hopefully he will do the job.Also having Jadeja will provide relief to Ashwin & Ojha. I expect this quartet to do well.Discipline & patience is the Key for Indian batting to compile big score - Can they do it this time?

Posted by Garp on (December 11, 2012, 2:19 GMT)

Gooch is spot on and if any of the England players need evidence I'd suggest they rewatch the 2nd inning from the test that just concluded! 3 wickets tumbled in a matter of minutes with only 40 runs required which was in all honesty was just sad, but it also shows what happens when England batsmen go into any inning or match thinking they have the upper hand. From India's selection shake up one would assume there expecting a pacey pitch but the last time I saw a Indian caretaker prepare a pacey pitch the match was called and abandoned in the first hour with the pitch being declared unsafe due to the extreme unpredictability of bounce and pace. Even if a seamers pitch is expected how can you sit either of Englands spinners? If one is dropped in favor for the Ecb's poster boy Broad they'll deserve to lose.

Posted by Chris_P on (December 11, 2012, 2:07 GMT)

@ jb633. We might revisit the "destroy Oz" after the series. You may well be right, hopefully, India will show us more respect than they showed England with their boasts of pitch preparation and such. And our friend Mr Ankur has never acknowledged the opposition, it was & has always been the run of luck or whatever against India that beat them. Even now, no acknowledgement of how better prepared and applied did England perform.

Posted by Chris_P on (December 11, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

About the only positive thing to have come out of the series for India, is that finally, they should now not underestimate the opposition & now respect their rivals. It would appear, from a neutral pov, that many within the Indian camp were expecting an easy victory with the preparation of the pitches, they only had to turn up & watch England roll over. There is no doubt in my mind, may thought this way & with this type of thinking, the appropriate results occurred. Perhaps showing England the due respect may invigorate them to perform to the level they are capable of. We'll see.

Posted by Nampally on (December 11, 2012, 0:28 GMT)

@rahulcricket007: I am sorry to say this may not happen if luck goes India's way. Jadeja & Chawla will add the missing pawns in the Indian team. Kohli is itching to do well & Tendulkar may be playing his farewell game. Pujara has been run out in Kolkatta test by Gambhir as was Sehwag. Indian fielding will also improve significantly with missing ZAK + inclusion of Jadeja, an outstanding fielder at any position. So I expect a gross improvement in the India performance. Also Cook is due for a failure. Panesar was not effective in Kolkatta as in Mumbai. So 2 pluses for India with 2 minuses for England will turn the table. It will be a toughly fought match & you might be disappointed in your wish list because Santa clause may be tooting for Indian win!

Posted by tomtom100 on (December 10, 2012, 23:11 GMT)

The suprise for me in this series has been the superiority of the english spinners over their indian counterparts.This superiority has been achieved with straight arms and without home advantage.The classical straight armed indian spinners of yore ,Bedi and co.,would have been a far greater challenge.These former greats should take charge.

Posted by Bheemax on (December 10, 2012, 23:00 GMT)

What "result" pitch can India prepare? England spinners are doing better than their Indian counterparts.

Posted by bonobo on (December 10, 2012, 22:39 GMT)

There is a lot of comments, from experts and their own fans, about Indian players being lazy, lacking intensity, fight....losing their techniques...But could it just be that the transition from a quite expcetional era of players has come about quite suddenly, there has not been the space for young players to make their names in the Test format, so those who have risen to the top have done so through other formats...I think there just needs to be patience, give players a run, let them learn and give those who have proven themselves in the past like, Dhoni, the chance to prove that current troubles are just form and not a deteriation in class....on of Englands greatest failing has been to retire their players too soon. This serious is not lost and just a few weeks ago, it was England who were taking the stick

Posted by Nampally on (December 10, 2012, 22:17 GMT)

Yes, the Series is not decided but England cannot Lose! In the worst case it will be either 2-2 Tie or 2-1 win for England. So that should be a matter of great pride & satisfaction. England definitely played with lot of heart, patience & will to Win. Indian batting was strong on paper but they self destroyed themselves with: Cook's catch being dropped when he was 17 + Gambhir's folly in running out 2 of India's leading batsmen. If India had avoided these 3 blunders, we would have been looking at different results! In addition the Indian Selectors going with the same squad after Mumbai defeat was simply "insane". England reinforced their team with Panesar after losing the first test. India needed a RH leg spinner @ Kolkatta. Thats water under the bridge now. Cook produced winning result & Dhoni did not. Luckily for the final test, India has made 3 changes from the losing squad but it is too little too late. Even if India win, it will only Tie the series. India failed to do the Job!.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

England fan here. The problem for India is that the fans love test cricket but the players all hate it! Pujara is the one guy who has tried to bat with 5 days in mind. And about Tendulkar, England had the same problem with Ian Botham. His last 5 years had moments of brilliance but lots of low scores and expensive spells in between. You have to be brave and drop him for his own good. His replacement may not be excellent immediately but will be better in the long run. Gooch started his test carrer with 0 and 0 but he did ok in the end! Ashwin has to stay because of the batting but only if there is 3 spinners. As for the pitch - just let it happen! "Rank turner" will have Swanny and Panesar licking their lips!

Posted by subbass on (December 10, 2012, 21:57 GMT)

" Englands' batting is a one-man show "

That's pretty comical. Presumably Compton, KP and Prior don't count ? And what you often find when sides do well is a couple of guy's get big hundreds with solid contributions from others. I won't even bother pointing out the difference between the bowlers. And then there is fitness and mental toughness.

"I think england would do well not to get carried away by wins inspired more from India's faults..... "

Who is getting carried away ? I'm lost help plz guys and gals !

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 21:11 GMT)

England showed they can play on Asian spin pitches, credit goes to Cook led from front, remarkable display with the bat as well as with the captaincy..... Now we all should admit that England is far better team in Test Matches and they d0 deserve their No 1 position which they did in past.

Posted by tomtom100 on (December 10, 2012, 21:06 GMT)

england spinners have out bowled the indians-and with straight bowling arms,a rare sight these days.For variety they use the traditional drift instead of the more recently introduced,and highly questionable variations.The current crop of spinners from india and pakistan bear little resemblance to their great antecedants-bedi and co.I would love to see a return to classisism.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 10, 2012, 20:02 GMT)

Has Trott caught the left-arm-spin bug from KP? He has failed miserably against Ojha, his first innings 87 in Kolkata notwithstanding. Trott occupies the key #3 position and has been solid since his debut against Aus. in 1999. However, a call for dropping him now would be inane as there is realistically no one would could be a better alternative. Trott has served England well and I back him to come good soon. He did play well in the first innings but he was patchy against Ojha. Hopefully, he will work harder and come back strongly in Nagpur.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 10, 2012, 19:57 GMT)

@Manish Srivastava, are we a good ODI side? We are the #1 side in ODIs according to the ICC rankings so the answer to that question will be a resounding YES. Now, if you ask are we a good ODI side in India? The answer would be a resounding NO. India have not won a single ODI against India in India since 2005-2006. Since their last win, they have played 13 ODIs, tied 1, and lost 12! That is as poor as it gets. This time, I think we may win 1 ODI considering it is a 7 ODI series and India would most likely field their 'B' side at some point (still would be good for us in India) but I am not holding onto any hope that we will win more. Re: India bouncing back in Nagpur, I am sure they will come back strongly as they will be playing for their pride, but that gives England a good chance of winning too, don't you think?

Posted by Shan156 on (December 10, 2012, 19:52 GMT)

@landl47, I agree, I would have been happy with a draw in India but now I believe we should go for the kill and win the series 3-1. Playing for a draw would be suicidal. England now know that they can win in these conditions. They should play for the win. That is why I was a tad disappointed when Cook mentioned that he will take a draw in Nagpur although he was quick to say that England will be playing for the win in the 4th test. India is the biggest challenge for this England team and we are so close to conquering it. We should ring in the changes - Samit Patel, who hasn't done too badly, should still be dropped although it is highly unlikely that England will change a winning team. But, come to think of it, Samit won't be playing in NZ and Bairstow will take his place. So, why not make this change and tell Bairstow what an important job he has on hand? It will be cruel to Samit, no doubt, but England should be ruthless if they want to be the best. Go England!

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 10, 2012, 18:14 GMT)

@jb633 (December 10 2012, 12:39 PM GMT) There's no doubt that England have been the better side in the last 2 tests and a combination below par batting performance in the 1st innings and the absence of Panesar were major factors in India winning at Ahmedabad otherwise England may already have had this series in the bag. But this is nowhere near the team that were once strong at home but never dominant and no 1. Then we had Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Ganguly Zaheer and Kumble at their peak. Four are no longer playing and nor should Tendulkar be whilst Zaheer has been unrecognisable from the bowler at his peak. To say this is a weak team is not to undermine England's achievements who have been led by excellent example from the front by Captain Cook but to recognise the alarming decline in the current standard of Indian test cricket due to all the baggage that goes with it. India is a currently poor poor test team full of overpaid, overfed and underperforming 'stars'.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (December 10, 2012, 18:10 GMT)

England have done well to win 2 games in india, especially based on prior form. hopefully they will go on and win the final game, but new bowlers bring new challenges, as the batsmen will not have seen much of them or had chance to study them to define tactics. England are flying high and im not convinced the three quick wickets in Englands second innings will have boosted thier moral significantly. It will be interesting to see if India move Ashwin upto 6 with Dhoni at 7 and 4 front line blowers,split 2 seamers (Sharma and the new guy) with Ojha and the young leggy as the spinners.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 10, 2012, 18:04 GMT)

Well someone has to say sorry on behalf of ppl like meanster and guptaankur and some other guy still saying that lets wait till ODIS and see if england can win those. It must be pathetic to be an indian fan. Other than that Gooch is on spot with most of his assesment. Only thing he forgets is Dhoni cant ask for flat pitches anymore, because he knows his team will be trounced there as well.. you give them a 700 pitch (which is what eden was) and tehy will make 280. So better to get turning pitches and lose in 3 days, is dhoni's mantra.

This is excerpt from article published by cricinfo before the start of test series : "Another key player, Tendulkar, also looked a different man today. He faced the three India fast bowlers - Zaheer, Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav - with control, and without too many problems. " It talked about great prep by sachin/zaheer and full strength indian bowling (including bhajjan). Haha. Now Sachin is reeling, zaheer bhajji have been kicked and yadav broke!

Posted by sandy_bangalore on (December 10, 2012, 18:00 GMT)

@Rajat Das:LOL! What England have done is ruthlessly exposed our shortcomings. We got 2 favourable pitches, and won the toss twice, and even then our flat track kings could not capitalise. And India of course is the worst fielding side in the world, and bowling is close to rock bottom as well. And the most AMAZING thing: in a sport played seriously by 8 nations, we are not even in the top 3! And even more AMAZING: a one-sport nation like ours can't even produce a good team in the one sport, despite all the finances and pampered players! We get whitewashed abroad, and even at home we cant put up a fight!

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 17:40 GMT)

I think the Indian team was complacent in its attitude. Secondly we have a number of old players playing on past performances and not on current form, they must be replaced ASAP if India has to come back in the series. The selectors were timid, they should have shown the guts to replace Tendulkar,Sehwag,Gambhir and DHoni.Gavaskar is right Yuvraj and Zaheer and Bhajji were scape goats.I wish Englan d all the best but hope that India turns it around and hope that both Awan and Dinda make their debut in Nagpur. Also Yuvraj's place should go to Rahane with Sehwag going into the middle order . Sachin should be kept on notice and told that his time is up because in the next few series we must try out some new and young players, who will atleast put up a fight and improve the fielding standard of the team which was pathetic in Kolkata

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 17:40 GMT)

I think the Indian team was complacent in its attitude. Secondly we have a number of old players playing on past performances and not on current form, they must be replaced ASAP if India has to come back in the series. The selectors were timid, they should have shown the guts to replace Tendulkar,Sehwag,Gambhir and DHoni.Gavaskar is right Yuvraj and Zaheer and Bhajji were scape goats.I wish Englan d all the best but hope that India turns it around and hope that both Awan and Dinda make their debut in Nagpur. Also Yuvraj's place should go to Rahane with Sehwag going into the middle order . Sachin should be kept on notice and told that his time is up because in the next few series we must try out some new and young players, who will atleast put up a fight and improve the fielding standard of the team which was pathetic in Kolkata

Posted by SDHM on (December 10, 2012, 17:37 GMT)

@landl47 - if you'd have offered me 2-2 before the series I'd have snapped your hand off, but seeing how well we've played and how poor India have been since the first Test, it'd now feel like a disappointment if we didn't come away with the win. Reminds me so much of the last Ashes series, where apart from the Perth Test we'd dominated the Aussies, yet they could still somehow draw the series in Sydney. Really hope we see a performance in Nagpur of a similar calibre to the one England produced at the SCG.

Posted by SDHM on (December 10, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

RE: the Nagpur pitch, what can a groundsman actually do with it in three days? It might've been he was preparing a flat one expecting India to have it wrapped up by now, or he might have been preparing a rank turner all along. But suppose he suddenly gets a directive from the BCCI, what actually can he do to change it if he needs to? Just a thought. I for one hope it's a turning pitch - England have shown they can play on them yes, but mainly it just makes the cricket more interesting!

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 10, 2012, 17:19 GMT)

It's very simple guys. England play good test cricket because they love the format. India will decimate them in the ODIs and T20s. India are far superior in limited overs cricket because they love those formats where their batsmen are naturally aggressive and enterprising. I am already looking forward to the T20s and ODIs. Test cricket won't be India's cup of tea any time soon unless they begin to plan accordingly and nurture the right set of players. According to me, India's teams for each of the formats have to be different. We don't want to see the same guys play every format. We need SPECIALISTS !!!

Posted by TheBengalTiger on (December 10, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

Cook is scoring tons of runs against rubbish bowling attacks. Tendulkar has scored his against the very best. Gooch comparing the two is quite silly

Posted by pka1982 on (December 10, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

I underestimated England, but now is the time to admit that they played far better, showed a lot of character to come back from defeat and win the next 2 tests (exactly opposite to what India did in theit tour last year.) India deserved to lose, and irrespective of what happens in the next test, Dhoni, Sachin and Zaheer should be left out. Sehwag should be put on Notice.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (December 10, 2012, 14:27 GMT)

A great thing about the last two games is that we have lost the toss and had to do it the hard way so that the element of luck has been irrelevant. This group of batsmen obviously have special qualities; at least two of them will be remembered as great, and two more very very good. The keeper too is in that class and the results show that Anderson and Swann are performing at their optimum while Monty has found his touch in Asian conditions here and in UAE. Finally Finn could be another top class bowler, so we do have the basics in terms of personel if we put it all together, which we have. I believe this is an honest appraisal of our situations and it is just a case of hard work and intensity over five more days without expecting rather than working out. As they say complacency is the enemy of achievement. India have a lot to do also and they are slightly on the run without their best seamer and potentially a rookie to replace him. Ojha is good but not that good.

Posted by xcal519 on (December 10, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Where is Rahane ???? What are we waiting for ??? Dhoni should be dropped and make Kohli captain or something .. Dhoni is only good for One day and T20...

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 13:33 GMT)

Who knows what Nagpur will bring Englands Lions ?

Gooch has it right and the whole team are tight on loyalty and tactics Wish them all well and the best with their team spirit at the match

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (December 10, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

YES PLEASE . defeat us , i want an innings defeat this time . please england beat india by innings in nagpur & win the series by 3-1 because i want to see more players (dhoni , sachin) dropped from the team .

Posted by haq33 on (December 10, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

getsetgopk....IPL's damage to cricket is more than just that. The bowlers in T20 are just unidimensionally defensive, so batting becomes a unidimensional game entirely as a result of that. In proper test cricket, quality bowlers play a tactical game with batsmen and batsmen need to know when to leave, when to play for a single, when to rotate the strike etc. Bowlers have licence to attack the stumps or induce false shots with their variations which sometimes work and sometimes result in a boundary. T20 really is all about "hit and giggle" for batsmen and "dry up the runs" for bowlers. Then when the batsman is forced to hit out after a few overs of tight defensive bowling, barely decent bowlers gleefully see their averages skyrocket without really doing much extra with the ball. And now we can see how the short format heroes like Virat and Ashwin cope with proper cricket. I notice Watson struggled against RSA recently too. It is a definite pattern.

Posted by bumsonseats on (December 10, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

i bet the groundsmen in nagpur will be out in numbers with their scrubbing brushes you can bet on that. 2 - 1 up not a bat first choice. perhaps cooky could win a toss mind i have said that the last 3 tests so perhaps lose is the way to win.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 10, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

Gooch's comment: 'Our guys have a good work ethic' says it all I'm afraid. Our guys have a good eating ethic. You simply cannot expect to compete at the top level in most sports if you don't look after yourself. These guys will made lost of money and plenty of time to enjoy their samosas and onion bhajjis when they retire. But in the meantime, following a good diet, cricket specific training and plenty of rest will yield immediate results.

Posted by jb633 on (December 10, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@Gupta.Ankar and Cpt.Meanster- you are obviously reeling about having to eat humble pie after the proclomations following Ahmedbad but lets be honest here. India in India is the ultimate challenge for countries like ENG/AUS/SA. It was a given that we would be destroyed in this series, just look at your very own comments following the first test. Nobody gave England a sniff here, India have dominated with this very side for years and years. The efforts should not be diminshed simply because you guys can't tolerate losing. Try to be humble for once. Look I am happy to admit that SA and Pakistan dominated the series against us. Whilst we played poor cricket in Pak against SA it can only be said that they outclassed us in every aspect of the game. Sometimes in sport that is what happens. Just deal with it. I am convinced that India will destroy Oz when they visit as they have no spinners (although they are a decent side still).

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 10, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@jackiethepen England has played the better cricket and derserve to be 2-1 up. India in the now distant has won under pressure. I don't think pressure is the issue. The issue is not winning or losing in the short term. It's about showing spirit and fight as demonstarted Cook, Compton and Prior showed in the first test after being made to follow on. Where is the application? But the point is there's no shame in losing if you've given your best but what's the point talking Sehwag talking about not being patient. If he knows what has to be done, do it. We may not win but you can take pride in going down with a fight. It's also about genuine competition for places to ensure players perform at their best. Sehwag is 1 in 20 performer and because his place is guaranteed he's got no incentive to put a price on his wicket. Where's the logic in recalling Yuvraj because of a double in 1 Ranji game then replacing him Jadeja because of his 2 triples this season then ignore players from the A team.

Posted by bumsonseats on (December 10, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

india were so soundly beaten in england not winning a game of any sort, not scoring over 300 in any test innings. so the bbci were going to make life difficult. 1st they made wickets alien to what would be found during the tests.they selected 1 spinner of any class but he bowled few overs. they have the captain making speeches to groundsmen demanding the wickets be of a quality were their own spinners would rule the roost.new test players also got in on the act saying greentops were provided for them in england ( incorrect ) there has not been a greentop in england for over 20 years to my knowledge. what you get in england is wickets with a good covering and as dry as a country like england can provide. i thought if we could win a toss we could be competitive we loose all 3 test tosses and still we are ahead. now i suppose we will get the comment tests dont matter wait till the odis see how good we are then. i have news for them, so what england may even be competitive there

Posted by jackiethepen on (December 10, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

The margins are always closer than they seem. India have some very good cricketers. They are under enormous pressure and pressure counts. England have been able to apply that pressure except in the first Test when they went into the Series with completely the wrong bowling attack. The coach held his hand up and then passed the error onto the batsmen. We can see from what happened on the 4th and 5th day how easy it is for batsmen to fall to pressure. Have the batsmen changed? No. Yet they fell in clusters. Whoever maintains pressure will win the Test. But you need the right strategy, the right bowling attack to match the pitch. England could have been 3-0 or at least 2-0 but Flower always seems to escape censure. He has been saved by Mr Captain Terrific. But the stress is showing. Cook looks exhausted. Good job there is a decent break over the Christmas. Yes - great to win but a draw also is commendable given the First Test howler. A result pitch will be a lottery. Is that good?

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

hope india will bounce back in the 4th test.....

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 10, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Its delusional to think that playing IPL wont affect your Test cricket. It does, I have played cricket myself and I can tell you its not easy to adjust to the longer format of the game when you are consistently playing limited overs cricket and looking for boundaries most of the time. The current crop of Indian batters play IPL for two straight months, now you take these players from IPL and put them in test team and they are assured to get slaughtered there. Look at Kohli, fine ODI batsman but when it comes to test cricket and survival mode, he's yet another walking wicket, in his own backyard I might add. IPL and test cricket should be separated and the test team needs to be equally compensated for not playing in IPL. India doesn't have bowlers and looking back at the past 80 years, they're not going to have any in future. The best they can do is spare their batsmen from the IPL circus, the only way Indian test cricket to survive. And get rid of all the jokers in BCCI, theyre useles

Posted by Selassie-I on (December 10, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

Fair play to Goochie, he's changed our players mentality completley, before he came along a batsman would get to 3 figures then try to put their foot down and get out. Now they know 100 is not good enough, they all want 'daddies', look at KP even, he gets to 100 and he wants to get his head down, capitalise and make 200+, when any of the boys get out in the 100s they look devastated!

He's installed a great work ethic, and just look at the player he has made out of Cookie!

And fair play to Dhoni still for askign for result pitches, everyone wants a result, the reason people don't was tests as much in India is the ammount of 600+ games that aren't worth watching. We've done well as India usually look to get 1 win and draw every game of the series thereafter.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

@Front Foot Lunge: Really? Agreed that England's spinners are bowling very well. But England have not won a test series in India for over two decades, and there must be some reason behind it. England won through largely individual efforts in Mumbai, not because they have suddenly become better players of spin. India should produce a turning track to ruthlessly expose English shortcomings and play with 3 spinners. What happened in Mumbai was an aberration. I predict an Innings victory for India within 3 days if we again produce a pitch like Mumbai. This time we should make it even more vicious, like the one in 2004.

Posted by Ramansilva on (December 10, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

Conspicuously the comment facility related to ENG-IND 3rd test match was not working since the end of day 3. Were they so embarassed by the performance of IND team to put it off or only me experienced something like that.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

India the most over rated team of World cricket.......they are bunch of below average cricketers......

Posted by ravi_hari on (December 10, 2012, 10:25 GMT)

Gooch himself had an exceptional record against India. He played the game for a very long time and understands the demands of modern day cricket. It always helps having such people around as your specialist coach. Alongwith Andy Flower and Mushtaq they form a formidable combination and have the acumen to churn out winners. Eventhough all are from different countries, they are working towards the common goal and have so far done a great job. The way they showed the responsibility to do the hard work and win each session and the game calls for rich accollades. Here is a bunch of sportpersons who are willing to stretch themselves, have patience and give the knockout punch to achieve success. Cook deserves to be praised as he is the main difference between the teams. England is led by example and India is seraching for someone who would atelast show them some direction. India might still come back and level the series at Nagpur. Yet, the really winner would be England.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 10, 2012, 10:24 GMT)

England have the skill and tenacity to win the net test, even if India serve up the mother of all dust-bowls. England's spinners are the best in the world, especially given that the other competition is either not of test level or have actions that most do not agree is totally legit.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 10, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

It hs been excellent performance by England in the last 2 tests especially after the first test and built on the momentum of their second innings at Ahmedabad and nt looked back. Equally England's performance should be put into perspective and remember it's against a very poor and inept Indian side. Mathemetically Gooch is correct the series is not won but it's difficult to see how India will improve whilst the English are improving with bat and ball in every innings. A couple of points on results pitches: Firstly it makes for good cricket as opposed to the rubbish we saw at Ahmedabad and secondly England should not be worried about a result's pitch as it will only favour them as their spinners have outspun and their seamers have outseamed India's. It's entirely possible if Panesar had played the 1st test England would be 3-0 up. It's up to England to do Indian cricket a favour and thrash India in the last test because that may be the only way we get the sea change needed.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 10:01 GMT)

What Eng did right & Ind didn't..1st of all accept that all English bowlers r superior to their Indian counterparts: Their avg pace 140 kph (and of INdians 130 kph), they got more swing, more turn on same pitches, they bowled more % of deliveries aiming stumps, they bowled cross seam to bring natural variation ...Now the solution part 1). Ashwin must bowl from around the wicket to bring lbw into equation & should ball at least 2 carrom balls per over to put doubt in batsman's mind. 2). All Indian bowlers must aim 80 % deliveries at stumps with leg side attacking fields 3). All Indian bowlers must also bowl cross seam to bring natural variation esp against set batsmen. 3). All Indian Batsmen esp Tendulkar must play with open face & slash the ball on off side like Sehwag does as it chops the ball & ball doesn't carry in slip & u never gat bowled. 4). All Indian batsmen must play every ball considering in-dipper with bat in front of pads hence u automatically miss the away going one..

Posted by gerrardl on (December 10, 2012, 9:33 GMT)

hahahahaha! India shouldn't play test cricket. Please ICC, please prevent this massacres! Another one will happen in the 4th test. It's not too late to save India. Can we please play 5 t20 games instead of a test match?

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 10, 2012, 8:40 GMT)

The whole problem lies with BCCI, its their job to look after a country's pride and not individual players interest or even money. Dhoni, Tendulkar, Yuraj, Ghambir and Sehwag are there in the team as they are good for advertisments and commercials, as long as the cements and the tires and the shoes are selling good, these players will be there in the team. Cricket is a mere excuse for running a multi-faceted business. Cricket is just a side show in a much bigger business organization. The so called democratic BCCI needs an overhaul, cricket administration in a country should be left to people who know and care about cricket. The guys running BCCI hardly know anything about cricket, they are good politicians and business executives but thinking cricket might benefit from these guys at the seat of power is delusional thinking. India needs to pull its socks up. Leave sentiments out of a highly competitive sport other wise you'll face ridicule and humiliation.

Posted by PrasPunter on (December 10, 2012, 8:35 GMT)

" India have set up the conditions in Mumbai and Kolkata ..." - well said Gooch. Probably the reason why these indians are where they are.

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 10, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

India is racing to its rightful place in world cricket. Its about ability, skill, guts, determination and a will to succeed. Indian players had the hunger to succeed before IPL but not anymore, they are rich, and they are more than content with that. Nobody tell a rich guy what to do or how to do it, the coach and the rest of the herd in BCCI are also just playing along to the tune of these rich but hallow paper tigers. Cricket is a religion in India and the mega stars created by the very own people are making sure they squeeze every bit of comfort and benefit out of their revered position without getting their hands dirty. Its simple, whenever there is a task needed to be done properly there should always be penalties along with reward. Dont hype these players to a position where no body can touch them, keep them to the ground and punish them when they come short. Like they say, men must be governed, same is true for players. Clean up the BCCI first, money before pride wont do.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

the adaptability of the english was brilliant this series, especially after loosing the first test. the same was the situation for india at england ans australia but you can feel the difference between the two teams. almost everybody in the team did their part and this is the kind of effort thats required to win matches overseas. as far as india are concerned they are a pack which needs the regrouping real quick.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

i think england job is already done , they came india to win a single test because indians wait to humiliate england to get thier revenge in last tour in england

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

Amazing if they beat India in India!

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (December 10, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

I think england would do well not to get carried away by wins inspired more from India's faults and a few individual performances by some english cricketers...

Englands' batting is a one-man show and if indians bowl upto their potential, the results would be quite opposite in Nagpur.

Their slip cathcing is poor and outfielding has been below par as well....Bowling has been aided by sub-par batting by India.....offering no resistance.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 10, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

Gooch is being humble with his words. There is nothing monumental in beating this mediocre Indian team. Had England done it 5 or 6 years back, then it would have been monumental. This lethargic Indian team can be beaten by almost any of the top nations in world cricket. Anyway, well done to England; a genuine test match team with the right mindset. However, a lot of the credit must go to Alistair Cook, who has single handedly destroyed India. His runs in the 2nd innings at Ahmedabad instilled confidence and self belief among the English ranks. His innings in Mumbai and Kolkata just cemented his greatness further. Not to forget the contributions of Panesar, Swann who have been incredible. Everything is looking good for England. As an Indian supporter, I feel it's not bad for India to lose this series. It's time for a make over of Indian cricket and this is the right situation.

Posted by   on (December 10, 2012, 6:58 GMT)

I Congratulate Team England But let us see if they are a good ODI side can they win the ODI series also well I know The test series is going to be a tie because India is going to bounce back in Nagpur. But now it is high time that BCCI and selection committee should think of future not Past.

Posted by landl47 on (December 10, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

I would certainly have been happy with a draw in India before the series started and that's now the minimum England will come away with. Cook has led by example and although he still is feeling his way tactically he has the players united and giving their utmost effort. I thought one of the most telling moments was Sehwag's runout in the last test; Sammy Patel ran as hard as he could, dived and kept the ball in play and Steve Finn, who had run after him, picked it up and threw a strike over the stumps. That was excellent work from two players who aren't the first to spring to mind when you mention top-class fielding.

England has won on a lively pitch and a dead pitch and after losing the toss. The Indian changes, dropping three experienced players, seem more desperate than inspired. Still, cricket's a funny game, as Brian Johnston used to say. We'll see what happens on Thursday.

Posted by Vilander on (December 10, 2012, 6:41 GMT)

England were magnificent, Cook,Kp,Finn,Monty,Prior,Bell,Swann. Champions..beat India fair and square. I hope India turns things around in the final test, best of luck India fight till the finish boys, we have nothing to loose now, its clear Eng are a far better team, so just fight till the finish.

Posted by kevepere on (December 10, 2012, 6:37 GMT)

Man that Ashwin did what the skipper and sachin couldnt do with the bat !!

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