India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur December 12, 2012

England close, but the back-slapping can wait

England are on the brink of something very special. To win a series in India, whatever the margin, would rate as high as any achievement in England's modern Test history
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During England's ill-fated tour of India in 1993, Phil Tufnell famously remarked that he had "done the elephants and done the poverty; it's time to go home."

While Tufnell's comments may well have been tongue in cheek, they were long used to characterise England's attitude to tours in Asia generally. They were seen not just as a challenge in a cricketing sense, but as much a test off the pitch. They were something to be endured. England were often mentally defeated before a ball was bowled.

Those days have gone. Not only does India now offer hotels and travel options to rival any international destination, but England have realised that such an attitude was self defeating. While it would be stretching a point to suggest that England are using this tour to soak up new cultural ideas and experiences - a new Xbox game is as groundbreaking as many international sportsmen like to get - they have developed a 'no excuse' culture that will not permit negativity into the dressing room.

They have also banished any sense of hubris. England, the new England, know they are one game away from scaling a peak that has defeated many, but past experience has taught them that the time for balloons and back-slapping can wait.

They were in a similar position in South Africa at the start of 2010. One up, with one to play, they capitulated to Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel on a lively wicket in Johannesburg by an innings and had to settle for a drawn series.

Not only that, but they started 2012 with hopes of establishing a legacy as one of the great Test teams. Subsequent confrontations against a rejuvenated Pakistan and a truly formidable South Africa have provided a more realistic barometer of their current status. Whatever problems England face over the next few days in Nagpur, complacency will not be among them.

They can also draw on some positive experiences. Not only did England hold on at The Oval to win the 2005 Ashes - though apart from Kevin Pietersen the only man from that England side who can be involved here is Ian Bell, who was dismissed for a pair in that match - but they also produced a victory at The Oval in 2009 to clinch that Ashes series 2-1. Six of the England team that played that game are likely to take the field in Nagpur.

They are on the brink of something very special. To win a series in India, whatever the margin, would rate as high as any achievement in England's modern Test history. Bearing in mind the record of England sides here and bearing in mind the crushing defeat that started the series in Ahmedabad, it surely rates as high as the Ashes win in Australia of 2010-11, the Ashes of 2005, 2009 or the Pakistan and Sri Lanka victories at the turn of the century.

"It's an incredible situation we find ourselves in," England's captain, Alastair Cook said. "We always desperately wanted to win this series, and we've got an opportunity to try to do that. We've played some really good cricket to get there. We're really keen as a side to continue that.

"I said after Ahmedabad that if we could play close to our potential we have a chance of winning. We've got to continue on the same path. We know how hard we've worked over these last couple of games, and we've got to do it again.

"We're here to do a job, and that job is still on. We said at the beginning of the series we wanted to win it, and we've put ourselves in a situation where we've got a chance to do that and we're desperately keen not to let that chance go."

Cook admitted that he had been "pleasantly surprised at the character" his team had shown since Ahmedabad, but it was Graeme Swann who provided the more striking insight into the determination that now exists within the England dressing room.

"After losing that game in Ahmedabad and with our previous results in India, it would have been very easy to get in a rut," Swann said. "A rut of losing a game, travelling, losing another one and then just waiting to get home at the end of it rather than focusing on winning the next game.

"There was a lot of focus and energy put towards that this tour was not going to be like that. Whether it was from management or senior players, it was made very clear that Mumbai was a chance to level the series and anybody who didn't see it that way wasn't welcome in the dressing room. It was probably a bit different this time round how we approached the trip, we have really tried to embrace India and embrace the series and believe we can win it and I'm not sure that has always been the case. I may be wrong. I have only been on one Test tour here before, but there certainly seemed more belief from the outset on this one."

It has been easier for some to remain upbeat than others. Stuart Broad, for example, has endured a miserable tour. A heel injury in the warm-up period may have compromised his performance in the first Test while an upset stomach may have compromised his performance in the second.

He was subsequently left out for the third Test, the first time he had been dropped since England's toured India in 2008, and has looked something of a lost soul ever since. He is surely too good not to bounce back, but this tour has presented a rude awakening for him. If he can respond to the setback as well as the side he may well one day lead responded to the defeat in Ahmedabad the experience may prove to be the making of him.

England will maintain the No.2 Test ranking if they remain unbeaten in the Test, while Cook, currently rated No.4 in the Test batting ratings, could become the first England batsman since Michael Vaughan, in 2003, to top the ratings. Cook is just five rating points behind number-one ranked Shivnarine Chanderpaul.

England have one big advantage going into this match: their opponents appear to be in something approaching chaos. Stories that some of the selectors and, perhaps, some of the players have questioned the position of the captain, MS Dhoni, only to have been vetoed by the BCCI chairman, the 'cement giant' N Srinivasan, can have done little to aid stability or harmony ahead of the game.

One of the Indian newspapers summed the situation up best with a cartoon of Sachin Tendulkar meeting the selectors and asking whether the time had come to discuss their futures. Everything is back to front. And Srinivasan truly is a man of cement.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on December 13, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    @Besk - mate , it must be well over a hundred years since the American economy overtook ours ( in terms of overall GDP ) , so the fact that we're currently no.22 (in GDP per capita) is hardly breaking news ! But thanks for your comment anyway. Oh , and it's ' Isle of Wight ' . Cheers !

  • besk on December 13, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    @Chris_P@A_Yorkshire_Lad you are comparing a country which is only 62 years old with the country as old as sky and you are proud of your down slide from one of finanacial leaders to #22 while smaller countries of size of isle of white over taking you guys....take a chill pill and watch cricket and see if your guys can do what they thought only next rocket science that is winning in India :)

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on December 13, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @Chris_P - well said mate although I think you're completely wasting your time in suggesting a show of humility ! Honestly , it's like trying to talk to a spoilt child who's had their favourite toy taken away , with some of them .

  • on December 13, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    @Chris_P If England would have not bled India blue over the past 200 years I doubt those numbers would have been there to back you up .. Get a life and watch Cricket and politicizing the comments..

  • on December 13, 2012, 3:10 GMT

    @gsingh7 I think to be fair Tufnells comment is being held up as an example of the wrong attitude that is both a weak excuse for non-performance and insulting to India. However re: your reply India does has both a large and vibrant economy and a massive problem with millions in serious poverty, ignoring that does those people a great disservice.

  • Crimsonbat on December 13, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    England have only one good batter - Cook. get him out early thrn it is a done deal

  • RodStark on December 13, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    sk12: I don't think anyone other than idiots are proclaiming England's "greatness". There was a lot of that perhaps when we were first ranked number one, and I think that was because of a rather stupid preconception that any new number one was the inevitable successor of the great WI and Australian teams. The reality today is that there are no "great" teams. SA is very good, but I'm not sure that will last too long. England are pretty good, and Australia, Pakistan, and, yes, India could be very good if they do the right things. We have a situation where there's a lot of parity, and we can expect the number one ranking to be passed around a lot over the next few years. To me that's more interesting than having one dominant team.

  • Chris_P on December 13, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    @gsingh7. Just fyi, the world bank figures show England rated @ #22 for GDP per capita. India is rated # 134 out of 180 countries, Australia #15, NZ #30. Better economy than England then? In what world? What about some humility shown by you in acknowledging what they have done to date, exceeding all expectations of just abut everyone?

  • Marcio on December 13, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    @landl47, that's more than a little illogical, no. The ODI's vs PAK (4-0) were a "real" indication of the relative merits of the teams, but losing the tests 3-0 showed that PAK were "very ordinary"? By this strain of logic the ENG team who toured AUS last time were worse than very ordinary as they only won the tests 3-1, and the real measure of the teams was the 6-1 ODI result to AUS in the ODIs which followed. Anyway, I thought that when the ODI series came after a test series it didn't really count - that was the logic being thrown around by ENG fans after those ODIs in AUS.

  • Chris_P on December 13, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    @gsingh7, Really? I am certain the UN member countries need to be told this! Try comparing GDP/person & see how they rate. Wake up & smell the daisies man.

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on December 13, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    @Besk - mate , it must be well over a hundred years since the American economy overtook ours ( in terms of overall GDP ) , so the fact that we're currently no.22 (in GDP per capita) is hardly breaking news ! But thanks for your comment anyway. Oh , and it's ' Isle of Wight ' . Cheers !

  • besk on December 13, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    @Chris_P@A_Yorkshire_Lad you are comparing a country which is only 62 years old with the country as old as sky and you are proud of your down slide from one of finanacial leaders to #22 while smaller countries of size of isle of white over taking you guys....take a chill pill and watch cricket and see if your guys can do what they thought only next rocket science that is winning in India :)

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on December 13, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @Chris_P - well said mate although I think you're completely wasting your time in suggesting a show of humility ! Honestly , it's like trying to talk to a spoilt child who's had their favourite toy taken away , with some of them .

  • on December 13, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    @Chris_P If England would have not bled India blue over the past 200 years I doubt those numbers would have been there to back you up .. Get a life and watch Cricket and politicizing the comments..

  • on December 13, 2012, 3:10 GMT

    @gsingh7 I think to be fair Tufnells comment is being held up as an example of the wrong attitude that is both a weak excuse for non-performance and insulting to India. However re: your reply India does has both a large and vibrant economy and a massive problem with millions in serious poverty, ignoring that does those people a great disservice.

  • Crimsonbat on December 13, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    England have only one good batter - Cook. get him out early thrn it is a done deal

  • RodStark on December 13, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    sk12: I don't think anyone other than idiots are proclaiming England's "greatness". There was a lot of that perhaps when we were first ranked number one, and I think that was because of a rather stupid preconception that any new number one was the inevitable successor of the great WI and Australian teams. The reality today is that there are no "great" teams. SA is very good, but I'm not sure that will last too long. England are pretty good, and Australia, Pakistan, and, yes, India could be very good if they do the right things. We have a situation where there's a lot of parity, and we can expect the number one ranking to be passed around a lot over the next few years. To me that's more interesting than having one dominant team.

  • Chris_P on December 13, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    @gsingh7. Just fyi, the world bank figures show England rated @ #22 for GDP per capita. India is rated # 134 out of 180 countries, Australia #15, NZ #30. Better economy than England then? In what world? What about some humility shown by you in acknowledging what they have done to date, exceeding all expectations of just abut everyone?

  • Marcio on December 13, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    @landl47, that's more than a little illogical, no. The ODI's vs PAK (4-0) were a "real" indication of the relative merits of the teams, but losing the tests 3-0 showed that PAK were "very ordinary"? By this strain of logic the ENG team who toured AUS last time were worse than very ordinary as they only won the tests 3-1, and the real measure of the teams was the 6-1 ODI result to AUS in the ODIs which followed. Anyway, I thought that when the ODI series came after a test series it didn't really count - that was the logic being thrown around by ENG fans after those ODIs in AUS.

  • Chris_P on December 13, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    @gsingh7, Really? I am certain the UN member countries need to be told this! Try comparing GDP/person & see how they rate. Wake up & smell the daisies man.

  • da_man_ on December 13, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    Landl47, you guys got well and truly TROUNCED by Pakistan in the UAE. Make no mistake about that. Test cricket is purest form of cricket and the real barometer of where the side is, not ODI's. A 3-0 drubbing in a test series says a lot more than 4-0 in ODI's. That Pakistan bowling attack is streets ahead of this Indian bowling side (not talking about the batting before any Indians start jumping down my throat, that's a whole other story) The other thing to remember is this Pak side hasn't had home advantage in years now. Home advantage doesn't just mean 22 yards in a stadium, it includes home comforts. Look no further than previous touring England sides who became "homesick" after a month of touring. Well played to England in this series, but belittling a worthy opposition who beat you smacks of a lack of class and sour grapes. Despite your comments, this Pakistani supporter is a fan of the England team.

  • JustIPL on December 12, 2012, 22:41 GMT

    @Chris Dayton: Why England were so inept against quality spin in UAE and think Andy used UAE just for reference. England had a nightmare there as India are having now agaist english quality spin. Anyway, Pakistani spin attack is substantial in any conditions.

  • TRAM on December 12, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    England is winning recently more because of India's poor show which I think is due to local politics in Indian cricket rather than great show by England. India is the one that needs pat in the back, not for playing well, but for waking up in the last test.

  • landl47 on December 12, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    England saw what complacency can do to a side when they lost to a very ordinary Pakistan team in the UAE. Winning the ODIs 4-0, while it showed the relative strength of the two sides, did nothing to lessen the disappointment of such a lacklustre display in the tests. Hopefully that lesson has been learned and England will keep their eye, literally and metaphorically, on the ball in the last test.

  • gsingh7 on December 12, 2012, 21:31 GMT

    what a boring article, done the poverty?? , last i checked india is one of best economies of world ,definitely better than england, anyways , england need some humility pies ,starting 9;30 am nagpur time

  • orwell1984 on December 12, 2012, 21:11 GMT

    baskar_guha

    You miss the point. England's former excuses for not getting to grips with touring Indian were insulting to Indians and pathetic to England fans. No England supporter should defend them. But when India got hammered in England and Australia we were told to expect the same in return. Losing 4-0 in England and then drawing 2-2 (which India might achieve) at home are in no sense equivalent. The first is a hammering, the second a draw! The difference between the sides is that England are capable of learning the conditions after a defeat. India didn't get any better in England. My memory fails, but did India win anything in that series? Tests (no), ODI's or T20's?

  • Nampally on December 12, 2012, 20:03 GMT

    "If we play close to our potential we have a chance to win".While England played above their potential, India played far below their best. That is the reason why Cook's words held true in the last 2 tests. If India do the same in the Nagpur test, they are still there with a chance to win. Pujara + Sehwag, the Indian opener, dictated the first test with their centuries to lead India to winning position. Since then they have not been able to repeat that feat whilst Cook was able to repeat his consistency in centuries. That is the difference between the 2 sides.If Sehwag & Pujara repeat the same centuries again, India wins. As regards bowling, both sides are not that far apart in spinners whilst England has the edge in pacers. I still think the 2 sides are well matched and as the heading says England's celebrations should wait. Amarnath's untimely blurting must be used by Indian team as a challenge to fight back- especially for SRT & MSD- by scoring a century & lead India to victory.

  • A_Vacant_Slip on December 12, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    @NairUSA considering some of your pronouncement regarding England here on cricinfo in the past this comment from you is high praise. @baskar_guha if I were you I would not place bet on Sehwag vs Cook you will lose money.

  • cricket-is-passion on December 12, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    @baskar_guha: I wud say its Pujara VS Cook and Viru has always been a trump card or wild card. If Viru plays and get going no one can stop him but when it will has no idea and he has a poor record against England. I am really counting on Pujara, and Rahane/Jadeja given that their recent performance in domestic circuit. Ofcourse Kohli has been there but for this series just as a fielder :(. He has not lived upto our expectations in this series. If Kohli finds form and that will be a very big boost with down the order allrounder Mr. Ravi Chandran Ashwin. Hopefully Jadeja/Chawla can put some breaks on one end but Chawla is not consistent sometimes he bowls exceptionally well and other times so dump. so lets hope he can perform exceptionally well atleast just for this match. Good Luck Team India please please please win it and tie the series. Dhoni has due to play a big knock. I almost forgot when he reached a 3 digits in Tests. Also send Rahane as opener and have Viru play in the middle.

  • UndertheGrill on December 12, 2012, 19:38 GMT

    @Ramana Sunder: In the past few years only Morgan, KP and Shah have really played any regular IPL. Mind you, I'd have expected that more would have had they not felt it might damage their chances of breaking into the Test side, or if they hadn't set their base prices far too high. Personally I hope that the likes of Patel, Kieswetter, Buttler, Wright & Hales do get picked up by IPL teams in 2013, as it should only be a positive experience for them ahead of the World 20/20 in Bang in 2014. On another note, I fully agree that Clarke is the equal of Srinivasan in terms of duplicity and general venality!

  • Rahulbose on December 12, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    It is weird Eng fans are worried about India fighting back. Indian fans are considering their team hopeless. This is a fight of the least confident. I am hoping Eng win the toss this time around, India will at least have a chance to draw the test.

  • 2.14istherunrate on December 12, 2012, 19:19 GMT

    Looking at the 1993 tour it is amazing why it should have led to those sort of attitudes espoused by the no.1 spinner coming after Gower's tour. I suppose Gatting's Pakistan adventure had come between. It was notable for spinners really, in particular Raju and Kumble, and Hck who easily outshone Tuffers, Embers and Sali. England really were not uo for it, nor Sri Lanka which followed. Thank God England are capable of thinking about it properly when they do badly out there now instead of just going through the motions.

  • Alexk400 on December 12, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    This England team is not good. They really can't play good spin. india spinners are useless actually. It is proven that england spinners were miles ahead of indians. That is a shock for india. They thought they can accept veg eating short indians can't bowl but they could not fathom that england can bowl spin better than india. India still refuse to accept that their selection system is absolutely bad. Parameters for selectors even state cricket team is who you know not what skill you posess.

  • bumsonseats on December 12, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    ramana ipl may be very important to some.but from memory over the last 2 years of ipl england players have turned it down saying their playing for their country was more important. i have no problems with ipl. but its doing what seems irrelevant damage to the indian game.

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on December 12, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    @Chris Dayton: anytime, anywhere mate. We'll be happy to play you in the most dangerous of all cricket, "no holds barred night time street cricket". As dangerous as street countdown.

  • Dhumper on December 12, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    @Chris Dayton Karachi is another option if you are ready for it and we will unleash Ajmal all over again :) But with all due respect England is playing good cricket. Looking forward to the last game.

  • subbass on December 12, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    Great thing is the confidence gained from winning two on the spin, despite losing the toss ! Incredible really, still I am firmly in the camp that this won't be easy. Beware the wounded animal ! Having said that if the worst happened and we lost well, 2-2 is still pretty damn good all things considered.

  • BTyagi on December 12, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    This result was imminent, at the same time a chance for India to clean-up its cricket and set the priorities. Indian cricket team lack class and it is apparent that they dont value test cricket. People like Srinivasan are the main culprit,i've never seen more glaring conflict of interest but indian cricket move on - relying on the heroics of players. They might still be correct - come Pak and INdia defeat them in ODis later this month and test cricket will be forgotten. I hope this does not happen though this time.

  • cooljack_143 on December 12, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    If INDIA LOOSES THIS TEST MATCH , IT WILL BE COZ OF GAMBHIR..He is such an arrogant fellow in Ind cricket.Its due to his fault in both the tests that HE RAN OUT TWO WELL SET BATSMEN..Pujara&Sehwag were well set for a good game which easily would have won Ind the game.I mean this guy,he is so TENTATIVE every time.He COMES OUT OF THE GREASE ON EVERY SINGLE DELIVERY l & goes back again. He is so very IRRITATING to watch when he does that on every single DELIVERY. If he is incapable of running he should just settle for boundaries NOT RUN YOUR FELLOW BATSMEN OUT.How nice it would have been if only one batsman get to play at a time and not two ???? If Gambhir is dropped Ind will win this test for sure,WE WONT HAVE UNUSUAL RUNOUTS..But if he is in, I am 100% confident he is going to play his part by just RUNNING OUT the SET batsmen THIS TIME TOO. I hope Gambhir reads this..

  • sk12 on December 12, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    THere's somthing abt this Eng team which fails to convince me about their proclaimed "greatness", however convincingly they keep winning. Not sure what, that somthing stops me from acknowledging their prowess. Despite the results, they somehow always seem second to the current SA side, the Indian team 2 years back, and the Oz team before that.

  • on December 12, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    @AndyZaltzmannsHair Why UAE? Can't you win anywhere else?

  • NairUSA on December 12, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    This England team and ECB deserves a pat in the back for having a strategy to win in India and executing it. On the other hand, BCCI's job seems to be just selecting the playing XI and hoping that they would click somehow. Also, the Indian players seem to be affected by the fact they can always reap financial rewards in IPL regardless of their test cricket performances. Time has come to prune the team based on individual performances.

  • on December 12, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    Mr.George Dobell, srinivasan is a man of cement ok. done what about Giles Clarke it seems that he is also having business of his own. None wants to be a beggar Mind You sir. Eventhough money is not the only factor, Money is also important then why English Players chose to Play in the IPL.

  • baskar_guha on December 12, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    On travel: I am sure when Indians travel to England and leave their shores, they do say "Done the cold weather, done the colder reception." Any team faces challenges, on and off the field, when they travel so the English if they have been using that as an excuse are just not meant to leave their Island. On the significance of this match: If India ties the series, the emotions will abate in India but England will be regretful. If India loses the series, it will be some kind of overreaction which wont solve anything. Keys to this match: Sehwag vs Cook - whoever does better, their team will win.

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on December 12, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    Send them over to the UAE and we'll bring this english team back down to earth. "Bajao Angrez ki pungi".

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  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on December 12, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    Send them over to the UAE and we'll bring this english team back down to earth. "Bajao Angrez ki pungi".

  • baskar_guha on December 12, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    On travel: I am sure when Indians travel to England and leave their shores, they do say "Done the cold weather, done the colder reception." Any team faces challenges, on and off the field, when they travel so the English if they have been using that as an excuse are just not meant to leave their Island. On the significance of this match: If India ties the series, the emotions will abate in India but England will be regretful. If India loses the series, it will be some kind of overreaction which wont solve anything. Keys to this match: Sehwag vs Cook - whoever does better, their team will win.

  • on December 12, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    Mr.George Dobell, srinivasan is a man of cement ok. done what about Giles Clarke it seems that he is also having business of his own. None wants to be a beggar Mind You sir. Eventhough money is not the only factor, Money is also important then why English Players chose to Play in the IPL.

  • NairUSA on December 12, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    This England team and ECB deserves a pat in the back for having a strategy to win in India and executing it. On the other hand, BCCI's job seems to be just selecting the playing XI and hoping that they would click somehow. Also, the Indian players seem to be affected by the fact they can always reap financial rewards in IPL regardless of their test cricket performances. Time has come to prune the team based on individual performances.

  • on December 12, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    @AndyZaltzmannsHair Why UAE? Can't you win anywhere else?

  • sk12 on December 12, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    THere's somthing abt this Eng team which fails to convince me about their proclaimed "greatness", however convincingly they keep winning. Not sure what, that somthing stops me from acknowledging their prowess. Despite the results, they somehow always seem second to the current SA side, the Indian team 2 years back, and the Oz team before that.

  • cooljack_143 on December 12, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    If INDIA LOOSES THIS TEST MATCH , IT WILL BE COZ OF GAMBHIR..He is such an arrogant fellow in Ind cricket.Its due to his fault in both the tests that HE RAN OUT TWO WELL SET BATSMEN..Pujara&Sehwag were well set for a good game which easily would have won Ind the game.I mean this guy,he is so TENTATIVE every time.He COMES OUT OF THE GREASE ON EVERY SINGLE DELIVERY l & goes back again. He is so very IRRITATING to watch when he does that on every single DELIVERY. If he is incapable of running he should just settle for boundaries NOT RUN YOUR FELLOW BATSMEN OUT.How nice it would have been if only one batsman get to play at a time and not two ???? If Gambhir is dropped Ind will win this test for sure,WE WONT HAVE UNUSUAL RUNOUTS..But if he is in, I am 100% confident he is going to play his part by just RUNNING OUT the SET batsmen THIS TIME TOO. I hope Gambhir reads this..

  • BTyagi on December 12, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    This result was imminent, at the same time a chance for India to clean-up its cricket and set the priorities. Indian cricket team lack class and it is apparent that they dont value test cricket. People like Srinivasan are the main culprit,i've never seen more glaring conflict of interest but indian cricket move on - relying on the heroics of players. They might still be correct - come Pak and INdia defeat them in ODis later this month and test cricket will be forgotten. I hope this does not happen though this time.

  • subbass on December 12, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    Great thing is the confidence gained from winning two on the spin, despite losing the toss ! Incredible really, still I am firmly in the camp that this won't be easy. Beware the wounded animal ! Having said that if the worst happened and we lost well, 2-2 is still pretty damn good all things considered.

  • Dhumper on December 12, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    @Chris Dayton Karachi is another option if you are ready for it and we will unleash Ajmal all over again :) But with all due respect England is playing good cricket. Looking forward to the last game.