India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 2nd day

Anderson burst swings it England's way

The Report by Andrew McGlashan

December 14, 2012

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India 87 for 4 (Kohli 11*, Dhoni 8*, Anderson 3-24) trail England 330 (Pietersen 73, Root 73, Prior 57, Swann 56, Chawla 4-69) by 243 runs
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Virender Sehwag lost his middle stump against James Anderson, India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 2nd day, December 14, 2012
Virender Sehwag and Sachin Tendulkar both lost their middle stumps to James Anderson © BCCI
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After the first day in Nagpur it was tricky to know which side was on top. Twenty-four hours later there was a clear answer, after another world-class display from James Anderson removed India's brittle top order to leave them tottering on 87 for 4 at the close - a scoreline that included failures for Virender Sehwag and Sachin Tendulkar - in reply to England's 330.

Debutant Joe Root, the youngest player in the England side who compiled a outstanding 73, and Graeme Swann, the oldest with a lively half-century, had done the bulk of the scoring for the first part of the day but throughout England's long occupation of the crease - 145 overs - the one cry going up was 'wait for Sehwag', a player rarely dictated to by conditions. In Anderson, though, England have a bowler who is also able to transcend a pitch.

With his second delivery to Sehwag he produced a wicked inswinger which, unusually for a Test opener, beat the outside edge to take out middle stump. It was high-class pace bowling; it is an obvious thing to say that batsmen are most vulnerable when they start, but it takes great skill from a bowler to take advantage in such style. While it was not an immediate end to India's hopes, Sehwag's early departure ensured that England, even when they weren't taking wickets, would have been confident of controlling the game.

The pitch was again the focus of much attention and there was just a hint during the final session that it was starting to play a few more tricks - albeit slow ones. England's spinners, Swann and Monty Panesar, found a little more purchase than their India counterparts but that may just have been because they bowled better.

Swann got one to turn and bounce at Cheteshwar Pujara although replays showed it had come off elbow rather than glove towards short leg. That, though, should take nothing away from the brilliance of Ian Bell's catch, low to his right. Root had started the innings as bat-pad but, after he failed to stay down for a half-chance offered by Pujara, the role was given back to Bell. The position needs to be filled by the best fielder for the role.

Pujara's departure led to a raucous welcome for Tendulkar but he was never comfortable at the crease. Panesar ripped consecutive deliveries past his outside edge before his other nemesis in the England side, Anderson, removed him for the ninth time in Tests in his first over back in the attack. Another tick for Alastair Cook.

Tendulkar, caught on the crease, got an inside edge into the stumps having been caught playing off the back foot when everything to date in the match has told batsmen to get forward. Anderson had become the most successful bowler against Tendulkar in Test cricket. There is one more innings in this series for Tendulkar, then who knows.

Smart stats

  • The number of deliveries faced by Joe Root (229) is the third-highest by an England batsman on debut against India and the ninth-highest overall for an England batsman on debut.
  • Sachin Tendulkar has been dismissed by James Anderson the most times in Tests (nine). Three of those dismissals have been bowled. Anderson has had the most success against Tendulkar and Jacques Kallis (seven times).
  • Tendulkar has been dismissed bowled 53 times in Tests. Only Rahul Dravid (55 times) has been bowled more often. In 2012, however, Tendulkar has been out bowled most often (six times).
  • Virender Sehwag's duck is his 16th in Tests and his seventh against England. Among top-order Indian batsmen, only Pankaj Roy (8 times) has been dismissed for a duck more often against England.
  • Graeme Swann's half-century is his fifth in Tests. It is also the sixth-highest score by an England No. 9 batsman in Tests against India.
  • The 103-run stand between Root and Matt Prior is the fourth-best sixth-wicket stand for England in Tests in India. The record is 171 between Ian Botham and Bob Taylor in Mumbai in 1980.
  • Prior's half-century is his 30th fifty-plus score in Tests. Among England wicketkeepers, only Alan Knott has more fifty-plus scores (35).

Gautam Gambhir, meanwhile, played what is becoming his template innings: a couple of run-out scares, a few well-timed off-side boundaries and then a wasteful end. Anderson did not even need to work him over, instead Gambhir played a half-hearted drive to edge to Matt Prior. One over later Anderson was given a break after a spell of 4-1-3-2. A case when figures don't lie.

Although not as dramatic a session as when India collapsed on the third evening in Mumbai or fourth afternoon in Kolkata it could prove just as telling. It was the situation that England managed to avoid during their innings, fully justifying the grafting approach which continued on the second morning.

Root's highly accomplished stay, which began shortly before tea on the first day and included a 103-run partnership with Prior, had spanned 229 deliveries when he finally gave a return catch to Piyush Chawla in the afternoon session. His half-century had come from 154 balls and even the loss of two quick wickets did not shake his concentration. If anything, it prompted a few more attempts at innovation, with some deft paddles and sweeps that would have made Graham Thorpe proud.

Swann, meanwhile, played a priceless innings to ensure that England did not fritter away their position, which looked possible at 242 for 7, and he dominated as much as anyone else had managed. He twice lofted boundaries over deep midwicket against the spinners before lunch and after the interval he became ever-more aggressive, but selectively so rather than wild hacking.

He deposited Jadeja over long-on for the first six of the match and after Root fell, closing the face as he tried to aim through the leg side, Swann targeted the straight boundaries to reach his first half-century since his career-best 85 against South Africa, at Centurion, in 2009.

England had resumed on 199 for 5 and the familiar pattern of dead-batted blocks was the order of the day. After an early burst from Ishant Sharma it was all spin, which prompted both batsmen to remove their helmets in favour of England caps, Prior's slightly more worn and sweat-stained than the crisp, fresh-out-of-packet version Root was wearing. This really could have been Test cricket out of the 1980s in the subcontinent.

Steadily, though, England did begin to make useful progress. Any width was latched on to by both players as Root cut Chawla through point and Prior repeated the effort against Jadeja and another took him to his fifty. Curiously, both Jadeja and, more so, Chawla, were given a bowl before Pragyan Ojha, but in the end the breakthrough came from the man who now appears the fourth-choice spinner having begun the series tipped to be the major threat.

R Ashwin switched his line to around the wicket and floated a straight delivery past Prior's outside edge. Prior was aghast that he had managed to miss the delivery while Ashwin's celebrations were those of relief as much as joy. India manufactured back-to-back wickets as Dhoni, in one of his more alert and innovative pieces of captaincy in what has been a passive series for him, immediately withdrew Ashwin from the attack in favour of Sharma, who promptly trapped Tim Bresnan lbw with reverse swing.

Sharma, though, could not bowl long spells and the movement he found reinforced the feeling Dhoni would have been better served with another seamer. How he must be wishing he had someone as good as Anderson.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by cric_J on (December 15, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

Huge Jimmy Anderson fan.Although being an indian fan it doesn't make me too happy what he did to the indian top order .But I have to say this is some of the best I have seen him bowl.Running in at 142 is not really his strength but he has done dat consistently over the last 2 matches and that too in warm indian conditions.Hats off to the man ! Just hope he gets a 5 wicket haul cuz he really deserves it.For India's sake it would be better if those 2 wickets are lower order ones.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 15, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

@landlk.. alright looks like I got one wrong, but with so many here taking offense to gerrard fellow one way or other, it was difficult. Well your other comments are sensible (unlike some who mentioned 500+ runs for india in lil over 90 overs maybe!), so that should have excluded you from "indian fans".

anyway, i am waiting for all my respectful fellow country men to show up now that for one innings dhoni/ kohli have showed grit. I wonder if srini gave them a slap on backside and asked to perform else the lucrative ipl contracts will be dead.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 15, 2012, 9:37 GMT)

And just when you think that things can't get weirder... magnificent fightback by India and things take another twist. Poor old RandyOz, it's taken him weeks to get over the series defeat to South Africa and pluck up the courage to try and make himself feel better by saying that other sides are worse (he forgot that New Zealand also gave Australia a hard time). It doesn't matter what the state of Indian cricket is, a tour of India is always tough, the stakes are high and, today, India are showing how tough it can be when their backs are against the wall.

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 15, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

@SOLID SNAKE- If you think India will lose its TEST STATUS if they lose to England, THEN SEE A DOCTOR- U NEED HELP! Even minnows such as Bangladesh or Pakistan would not lose their status losing to Eng at home.! Thanks for your interest in INDIA team- Its people like you that make INDIA CRICKET the richest sporting body after MAN UTD

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 6:17 GMT)

@Solid Snake - 2 defeats and u say the test status should be stripped off!! Get a life!!!

Posted by fan_2_fans on (December 15, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

@Solid-Snake.If India gets stripped of the test status,than the world cricket will come to standstill.

Posted by EdwardTLogan on (December 15, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

The worst thing about this Test match is not the pitch, the turgid batting, or the disappointing pitch. Iy is the cheer leading going on in the commentary box. led by Head Cheer Leader Sunny (the BCCI can do no wrong) Gavaskar. At least here in Australia I can mute the TV and listen to the ABC on the wireless so I don't have to listen to Ian Chappell and Bill Lawry tell us how cricket was better in the 1960s. Seriously, I just heard Gavaskar say that Dhoni was a good captain and wicketkeeper. He and Kholi are clearly batting to avoid losing this Test rather than trying to win it and as a keeper he makes a good backstop. I don't know who the host broadcaster for the series is but we deserve better than Gavaskar and co cheering their team on.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 15, 2012, 5:56 GMT)

I say drop the whole team..& bring in the Indian kabaddi team here.I am sure those kabaddi men would play better cricket than the current flop show of team India

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 5:54 GMT)

me too noticed that commentators praised english players whaterver they do...if it is indian players simply they see not atleast comment positively...

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

@Solid_Snake i guess that would be the only way eng can get a world cup..

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 15, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

dhoni is back to wc final form of backfoot coverdrives, kohli seems invincible again , as i said yesterday 400 by india wud win it for india, abi(anything but india) are similar to abu , jealous of india's recent success of wc wins and 1.2 billion strong support, true fans of cricket did no trash talk(jg27) while indian neighbour long suffering fans vented their frustration of having their teams beaten by india by getting false accounts, victory in this test wud be so much better and sweet than recent series wins over sl and nz

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 5:34 GMT)

@fguy I agree that a poor decision is a bad thing regardless of which team it happens to. However I think there is a general lack of sympathy when it happens to India, since they're the ones refusing to use DRS.

Posted by bhrangi on (December 15, 2012, 5:29 GMT)

@Solid_Snake: We know you are not an INDIAN, yeah it is a party time for England but ICC may snatch test status wait why ODI champion tag.,, We are too good in ODI no one can deny that,,. I understand you sore Pakistani fan., still semi final defeat and asian cup defeat hurting you .,., LOL.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 15, 2012, 4:27 GMT)

Also I think they should bring back the advt of "Baja di angrezon ki punji/ baja " etc on tv. They were done in great taste and showed the confidence of our general public. They should bring it back now that dhoni-kohli have played out 27 mins!

Posted by Dhanno on (December 15, 2012, 4:19 GMT)

From the first 15 mins of today's play, i am sure india is going to win this game. Dhoni-Kohli are looking solid, even Gavaskar is saying the same. If the legends agree with me then I must be right. So yes, India victory on day 5 !

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 15, 2012, 4:13 GMT)

I hope that England restrict India to under 200 runs.. In the 2nd inngs England gonna pile up another 300+ score & then hell yeah.. Party time for England :P After this defeat,Indian team is gonna get stripped off the Test Status :P ICC would consider snatching the ODI Champion Label from them & give it to some other deserving team.

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 3:55 GMT)

Cook is 'cooking' India in India…..what a sight. Revenge….payback……4-0……ha ha ha ……so funny. Sachin is only but a shadow for the last two years. I really don't get it, what is he trying to prove at this stage??? Except for Pujara, nobody seems in good touch. India should play at least 20 tests against Zimbabwe (home series) now if they want to get higher in ranking; even Bng is getting out of their reach now……lol.

Posted by landl47 on (December 15, 2012, 3:46 GMT)

Alas, Dhanno, you are a little out in your assessment of 'Indian fandom'. I am English and when I said that GerrardLK wasn't English, it's because he isn't. You have something to learn, my friend.

Posted by LillianThomson on (December 15, 2012, 3:39 GMT)

A recurrent theme in this thread is that many Indians don't seem to understand that in sport you have to continuously replace older players before they deteriorate, not after the decline has gone too far. A second theme is that good youngsters like Root - or Rohit - need to start Test cricket early, when they have a lot left to learn. Let's be brutally frank: India only rose to number one by standing still while Australia and South Africa were in transition and temporary decline. Their 2010 team was actually a little weaker than the 2004 one. But I think the combination of financial clout and that misleading brief Number 1 ranking led Indians to think that their team was better than it really was. Avoiding playing Tests v Pakistan has also allowed them to avoid tasting Test defeat more often.

Posted by kc69 on (December 15, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

Currently its bad time team India supporters and good times for anti india fans.Don't worry we will have our day soon

Posted by Lord_Trickster on (December 15, 2012, 3:16 GMT)

"Posted by Vivek Kr on (December 14 2012, 11:13 AM GMT) I am breaking up with you Sachin Tendulkar, you never understands me ;-)"

This is possibly the funniest wittiest post I have seen here. What a delight amongst the dregs of hate, egomania and plain jingoistic drivel served up here by all sides. Not that I hope to have this posted as I must have upset the editor at some point. Never been published yet. Live in hope.

Posted by ElvisKing on (December 15, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

This may sound silly but he had a medium pacer in Kohli, but such ideas never cross his mind since he could only see spinners succeeding on this wicket ! You dont need to be a genius to try to some thing different . Haven't we all lost our cool for Mr. Cool ?

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 3:12 GMT)

sehwag,gambhir,tendulkar needs to be dropped for india to win any games in the future rahane is left out again

Posted by fguy on (December 15, 2012, 3:07 GMT)

so tell me how this works. eng player gets a bad decision & the report (rightly) criticises the poor umpiring making a special mention of it & emphasising it. but an indian suffers the same & the incident is brushed aside & the focus is on catch that was taken off it. pls publish this comment to show me that the entire cricinfo isnt biased.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 15, 2012, 2:44 GMT)

Indian team is so down because of all the hero worshippers. Gupta Ankur is the worst of the lot. He thinks Indian team has got the best batting line up in the world under home conditions!! These people are blind jingoistic people. We have loads of talent. All we need to do is get rid of perennial non-performers like SRT and Sehwag. Rahane and Badri can do much better than these 2 non-performers.

Posted by Crimsonbat on (December 15, 2012, 2:19 GMT)

Fletcher is gone. We have seen the 5th last appearance of Tendulkar.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 15, 2012, 2:13 GMT)

@ Dhanno ->I am not an Indian fan :P

Posted by bhrangi on (December 15, 2012, 2:11 GMT)

@Natraja : Dude haven't you seen the previous test matches of Dhoni, Based on the previous performance we are telling to sack him. I am the one who always defended sachin, he is not in his form and middle order look vulnerable. So rather than sacking , I would ask him to retire. Apart from that Dhoni and fletcher should be sacked. It is simple when team won, everyone said Dhoni won this and that ,Now it is loosing so captain should take responsibility and leave.

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 2:05 GMT)

Today Indian test team is heading for another defeat because team mostly comprised with players 20/20. Good cricket like test cannot be played with fluke shots as inT20. So India must think to select a good test team with players who play real cricket shots.

Posted by spinkingKK on (December 15, 2012, 2:00 GMT)

Dhoni's game should suit the low bounce pitch like this one. I hope he makes the full use of the opportunity to score something meaningful in test cricket. All the best to the Indian team. Hopefully they can score 450-470 in the second session on the 4th day and put England in.

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 1:58 GMT)

Tandulkar, Please say goodbye to playing cricket. We want to remember you as one of the greatest, and not as one who is thrown out of team. Retire gracefully.

Posted by bhrangi on (December 15, 2012, 1:57 GMT)

lcg_123: This time our predictions are gonna be right, India today may be lose all wickets in 2 or 3 hours maximum. Who knows follow on can also happen, I will be happy if it doesn't happen, but sadly our test team lost their form a couple of years ago

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 1:55 GMT)

I really wish India loose this match... at least it will expose the team and hope for some change. The present test team can loose even with the minnows... forget England. Merit must be the criterion not nepotism and politics... sad to see so many deserving players are sitting on the bench... only in India it can happen this way... Rahane, Tiwary, Badri,.... uff.. Dhoni should be sent packing home... Sachin paaji should take rest for sometime... and take him for a series with Bangladesh .. ohh..no (they are playing great)... Holland or Canada may be.... so that he can score his 50th ODI century. I really pray we loose the series. Lot to learn from the debutante Root...for his gritty innings.... Dhoni's team is totally exposed....

Posted by Trickstar on (December 15, 2012, 1:30 GMT)

@Stark62 But Nasser also believes that Sachin is better than Bradman........ so I'd hardly take his word as gospel.

Posted by KukaSekhon on (December 15, 2012, 1:07 GMT)

India will make 150 all out and 87 all out.

Posted by Captcroc on (December 15, 2012, 1:01 GMT)

Surely the selectors, if they have any courage, must now give Tendulkar the tap on the shoulder. His time passed twelve months ago.

Posted by circketman on (December 15, 2012, 0:58 GMT)

Every team grows through high phases and low phases. Some just manage it better. England no doubt are the better team in this series with superiority over India in every aspect of the game. Hats off to them for what has gone in to get them to this stage. India needs to recognize the short term and long term shortcomings and work accordingly. What I do not like is hint of sarcasm from the author, keep in mind England were at sustained and abysmal lows not too long back and will do so again in the future. So Andrew let us not get too judgemental and cynical.

Posted by cricfan_aus on (December 15, 2012, 0:52 GMT)

Can not wait to see what eng is going to do in this match. They have a tricky situation here unlike the last 2 test where they have a lead in the 1st inn and bowled out Ind with only slight target to chase. Now If india can bat for 50 overs and make 100 runs more that gives eng around 150 runs lead and 220 overs left in the match. What target and overs is eng going to put in front of ind, i am very sure they are not going to risk the series win for a single match, unless ind get bowled out in the first session of the third day.

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 0:42 GMT)

Time and again we are telling. Let a promising youngster replace Tendulkar and play for the country. Why this adamancy for Sachin in not quitting the scene and the selectors in not showing the door "diplomatically". Any how, it is going to be "Ganguly's way" for Sachin.

Posted by   on (December 15, 2012, 0:36 GMT)

@Suresh Subramaniam, Ghambir scores this series are 45,4,65,60,40. This is why he is still in the team!

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 15, 2012, 0:31 GMT)

So BCCI what to do now? You gave them no quality spinners during the warm-ups but we now know it's because we don't have any, we gave them a fast turner and our boys got caned by Monty, we gave them Eden Gardens which was supposed to reward good bowling and it did - England's - then we gave them this gruber at Nagpur and Anderson bowls as if he's back in England and the spinners again outspinning India's. Sehwag who talked about patience after the last test has been handed an object lesson in it by a 21 yr old on debut. Sehwag, the genius, the one of the all-time great openers, Mr Exceptional Hand Eye Co-ordination and gets out playing inside the line to an inswinger, has scored 253 runs in 7 innings so far compared to Prior's 258 runs in 5 innings.

Posted by Nampally on (December 15, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip: My comment are always factual not excuses. Fact 1: India had a total 11 injured players needing replacement on the England Tour. Fact 2: Cook's Century in each of the first 3 Tests was not Chanceless. Pujara is like India's Cook or SA's Amla. If the Umpire is so blind that he cannot see the difference between forearm & glove, then he has no business to be a Test umpire.Do we need a DRS for such straight forward decision. I have watched Cook's LBW several times in slow motion by going back to Highlights of the Day 1. The ball hit him on the inside of the Pad- pad is at least 6" wide.In my opinion Umpire was right because the ball seaming into Cook would have hit off & middle. In fact Trott was plumb out too few balls before that. Lastly, I do not harp on the past comments of the Fans to criticize or mock at others! So let us be gracious in our comments.I have played lot of high class cricket in my life too & know what I am talking about!

Posted by VickGower on (December 15, 2012, 0:06 GMT)

The only thing I hope is that Dhoni doesn't pay a price for such a gutless performance by Sehwag/Gambhir. I hope there is one sane commentator out there who will ask this simple question: How in the world is Dhoni responsible for a situation where even pros in prime like Sehwag and Gambhir have failed so miserably and so constantly. At least with Tendulkar, he has such a glorious history and he is 39. What exactly have Gambhir and Sehwag done except to gut their nation and captain at the most crucial time? At least Dhoni keeps. What are the jokers in top 5 doing?

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 15, 2012, 0:01 GMT)

@Partyman: You must either be visually challenged or extremely ignorant to even pay attention to some of my posts on Cricinfo with regards to England as a test team. I have always given credit where due. I have written many times on this site about how good England are in test cricket compared to India. At the same time I cannot lay low and be forgetful about the fact of how superior India are compared to England in ODIs. You see, I can't give credit to England in areas where they are not that good. In test cricket, England are simply one of the best teams and have always been. Their only blimp used to be in Asian conditions but it seems that too has been put to rest. Please pay attention to my posts from now on. I am not Gupta Ankur or any one else who simply supports the Indian team just for the sake of doing so. I am a genuine and knowledgeable cricket lover.

Posted by dunger.bob on (December 14, 2012, 23:44 GMT)

@ azahid09 on (December 14 2012, 14:10 PM GMT) "this is now high time for India to choose between IPL and Test cricket, else much more humiliation is awaiting them!!!" ... didn't your mum ever tell you that running away from your problems is no way to solve them. .. I'm Aussie, so I know how it feels to have the Poms beat you on your own patch. .. there's no two ways about it, it sucks. .. I understand that feeling all too well, but isn't it better to work like crazy to turn it around rather than just give up!!. .. this is sport mate, it can't always go your way. ... on a different but related matter, one of your countrymen had what I thought was a great suggestion to improve your Test team. He suggested that the BCCI could use some of their mega-bucks to make Test players THE most highly paid of all cricketers in India. That should create interest amongst the players and help fuel the desire to succeed at Test level. ... seems logical to me.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 14, 2012, 23:40 GMT)

Can anyone explain why Jadeja who's been chosen as a no 6 batsman has bowled more overs on his test debut than each of Ashwin and Ohja when they've already played 3 tests of this series?

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 14, 2012, 23:38 GMT)

This match is still not easy to call. There are three full days left. That's probably going to be around 290 overs. Plenty of time for things to happen. The highest probability scenario is India all out for 180-200 tomorrow afternoon, but I don't rule out a fightback by them although, I think, 330 is out of reach and at best India will have a very tough chase. 3rd innings critical? Only if India get within 50 or so of England's total. @BengalTiger: 6 non-Englishmen in the side, are there? Unless Yorkshire has declared UDI that may be difficult. Can you talk us through this one? I assume that, unlike the FCO, you count duel nationals as not English, even then I can't manage a majority.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 14, 2012, 23:36 GMT)

The match situation not really a surprise as this series has followed the same pattern as in England last year with the English bowling attack being relentless and making India's look laborious on the same pitch. To say India has struggled to take wickets since the second innings at Ahmedabad would imply that they bowled well in the 1st innings but the reality was that hadn't got out of first gear then. Ishant has to do 3 things - (1) Work on line and length (2) Study Anderson (3) Watch playback of himself on his 1st tour of Australia when he bowled so well as a 19 yr old. It depressing to think that not only has he not improved at all, he's actually got worse in the 4-5 yrs since then.

Posted by Dbatsman on (December 14, 2012, 22:58 GMT)

The thing is that the current Indian Spinners have only perform against low ranked countries on ICC rank chart and I would of have prefered to try out new stuff in batting order if its failing and it seems like Dhoni doesnt ve any options left in mind and Fletcher is just up there sitting down

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 22:53 GMT)

4 nil - payback - revenge.... words written on here by the supporters of India

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

i think India should play more n more with BAN n ZIM. Ofcourse in a home condition. Replace whole team with a new. Gather experience with associates n also with county club. BAN would deserve a tour in India that is due for 12 years.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 14, 2012, 22:30 GMT)

senthil25 , TheBengalTiger, krvij, Solid_Snake, VivtheGreatest, SAbouncer, Bikas RD, Pravar Umale , landl47, kumarcoolbuddy. - Some of the brightest minds of indian fandom. Haha, such a thin skin and got right by one comment from GerrardLK. Dude keep it up!

So Gerrardlk, please make a note: we are passionate about cricket, we support indian team ( lack of logic in predicting 4-0 must be ignored) because that is what we are supposed to do, we are highly respectful of other fans, also you are not english because of some phrases in your comment, we are not arrogant, and yea be respectful to others man! Indian sensitivities are stake and if "JustIPL" is correct, those are hanging pretty low these days !!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

Somebody please tell me why is Ghambir still in this team? Twice in this series he has showed why he should be the fiat to go. Another woeful performance by India. Hands off to Anderson, what an incredible cricketer is he turning out to be.

Posted by lcg_123 on (December 14, 2012, 22:19 GMT)

@ SamuelH who wrote "Personally feel India fans are being too quick to write off the game": well... Indian fans do everything in advance. They had completed the predictions and the analysis and the celebrations by the end of the first day. Us lesser mortals need to wait and see. Hope this will turn out to be an interesting game!

Posted by Crunchtime1 on (December 14, 2012, 22:11 GMT)

I mean everyone already knew that India have probably the world's worst test bowling attack, but why has their batting been so poor? Honestly, i feel embarrassed to watch tendulkar bat, and i never though I'd say that; i just change the channel and wait for 5 minutes before switching back. India were solely banking on englands inability to play spin, once that weakness was addressed they were screwed.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (December 14, 2012, 22:10 GMT)

England got to within the area of control with the bat and have India on the ropes with the ball. Neither Kohli nor Dhoni have done too much with the bat in this series-Kohli really has not cut it- and Ashwin apart I do not see massive contributions from the rest. In my fantasy they are all pout for 42 more and follow on but in all seriousness a lead of 120-50 would be a great place to start the second half of the game from. Root showed a lot of backbone in his knock and reminded me a bit of Brigadier Block whose positon has really yet to be filled, while Swann's 56 was timely to say the least. Are India psychologically in a hole? The next few hours will tell all and determine how long the game lasts. Ideally we will be setting India 350 plus to win this...

Posted by ShawnHolmes on (December 14, 2012, 22:08 GMT)

I don't know what's worse, watching the helpless Indians play Cricket or listening to them speak English. lol. Even Apu speaks better.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 14, 2012, 22:04 GMT)

"Game is virtually over for India after wonderful resolve shown by England under Peterson who showed the way with his wonderful resolve. This pitch was like ahmedabad but this time poms won the toss. Ishant eventually got low balls like umesh got in the first test."

Astute comments by someone named JustIPL. ROFL, "Ishant got low balls like Umesh", I had no idea IPL fans went to such extent to study their favorite cricketers' anatomy!

Btw, just food for thought: We gave ENG dead pitches and no spinners in practice games, we created slow low pitch at motera, we tried spinner's paradise and now back to slow low surface. We are gonna be trounced 3-1. What are we gonna do to australians when they come ?? No practice at all ? Scrap the test series by artificial rain ?? Allow only 5 foreigners in australian team, rest will be indian club cricketers :P ??

Finally hats off to Joe fella, video of his innings should be shown to indian batting clowns each day they get a paycheck!

Posted by riverbaby11 on (December 14, 2012, 21:48 GMT)

God gave us the world cup and took everything else I suppose , there is still some chance in this test but can't wait for this series to end ..

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (December 14, 2012, 21:45 GMT)

Good on ya RandyOZ... and yet here you are, time and time again posting on the England threads, and yet you're nowhere to be seen on the Aus.-Sri La. threads. We all know where you're heart truly lies... You're an avid England fan really. Thanks for the encouragement.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 21:42 GMT)

bad time for Dhoni and team india. Whenever sachin form work as oil in the fire.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (December 14, 2012, 21:35 GMT)

@Nampally. At last no excuse from you like India "injuries" or "Cook lucky break".... It seem that you have finally realised the truth. No good to speak of Pujara not out off of arm. Cook was not out as well - but BCCI has banned use of DRS so all this is too bad. Jimmy castleing Mr King-Pair himself Sehwag was an amazing piece of bowling. India are a long way down whole world can see this. India need bowler like Anderson if it is to make any progress. Concentrating on hero-worship batsman and overpaid IPL sloggers will need to change if India is to make any impression in test cricket in the next 2-4 year. India need bowler to win match. Currently they have zip.

Posted by geoenvy on (December 14, 2012, 21:27 GMT)

Missing VVS anyone? For all the people who were clamoring for him to be dropped. All I can say is HeeeHAAW

Posted by JG2704 on (December 14, 2012, 21:23 GMT)

You have to laugh at some of these comments. "An empty Vessel makes the biggest noise" was what was said about Jimmy Anderson by one of our regulars after Jimmy basically just did an interview where he answered questions honestly. Today we are accused of being nothing without Jimmy Anderson by another. Pre series we were a one man team - which was KP and since then Monty,Swann,Prior.Cook and now Jimmy have been mentioned as our only decent players. Well have to say it's growing

Posted by Helperby on (December 14, 2012, 21:22 GMT)

@Joel Carter - that would be the same pedestrian attack of Jimmy Anderson and Swanny that destroyed your best team on your own tracks? What would happen if we let loose our second string spin attack of Monty with the second string pace attack of Finn?? No wonder Ricky retired - he couldn't face losing yet another Ashes series

Posted by JG2704 on (December 14, 2012, 21:16 GMT)

@krvij on (December 14 2012, 07:58 AM GMT)/senthil25 on (December 14 2012, 08:54 AM GMT) Must agree with you in that there's no need for trash talking but having said that there were a multitude of unbecoming comments about how India were going to thrash/trash etc England 4-0 pre series and while many have predictably disappeared you don't have to look too hard to find that some remain

Posted by JG2704 on (December 14, 2012, 21:15 GMT)

@TheBengalTiger on (December 14 2012, 08:30 AM GMT) I'd prefer forums to ban the cheerleader fans who constantly write non constructive trash on their threads before anyone bans any players from any team. You know the type I'm on about? By the way what is this sickening behaviour you're on about? Please publish

Posted by SDHM on (December 14, 2012, 21:10 GMT)

Personally feel India fans are being too quick to write off the game - for me, the third innings is the crucial one, when it comes. England still need to bat well a second time.

Posted by o-bomb on (December 14, 2012, 20:59 GMT)

@vjkrk - How many of those scores did Stewart make in matches where he was keeping wicket?

Posted by Nampally on (December 14, 2012, 20:55 GMT)

I am too disappointed to even comment how badly Sehwag & Tendulkar let India down. These are the 2 senior guys who are expected to rise to the occasion. Irony is Tendulkar thinks he is still great after 4th single digit innings out of 7. He is rightly Anderson's "Free Wicket". If at least Rahane had played in his place, India would have been that much ahead in this game. One free Wkt. is always there as long as Tendulkar plays!. To make matters worse Pujara was given OUT caught off his forearm! He was one guy India was relying on. Day 3 will seal India's fate. Dhoni & Kohli have been passengers so far & will remain so. Can we expect the 2 triple century scorer to make any contribution? I have more faith in Ashwin to be the best of the rest of the batting. England went from 139 for 5 to 330 thru' their lower gutsy bats. India is too feeble on their own backyard to contribute a score matching the last 5 England batsmen. India has talent but politics are killing Cricket in India - V. Sad!

Posted by Buggsy on (December 14, 2012, 20:53 GMT)

@bobmartin, you might want to check your facts. Australia won 5-0 in 06/07.

Posted by BG4cricket on (December 14, 2012, 20:37 GMT)

India can't win from here as neither of their 2 avenues to victory appear likely. The first is to get close or just past England's total then bowl then out and chase the target. Given the current scoring rates they probably won't have enough time to achieve it particularly as England probably won't declare. The other is for India to get a lead of 150 to 200 and bowl England out cheaply which given the current score seems even more unlikely. So it looks like England win the series and will have thoroughly deserve it. Hopefully the drubbing will be a catalyst for much needed change in Indian cricket which is in free fall at present

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (December 14, 2012, 20:36 GMT)

@NairUSA on (December 14 2012, 16:35 PM GMT) - considering some of the trash your have posted on cricinfo in the past your comment represent massive progress for you. As Morpheus says in The Matrix; "Welcome to the real world"....

Posted by SDHM on (December 14, 2012, 20:23 GMT)

@vjkrk - Alec Stewart didn't make all of them as wicketkeeper.

Posted by Cric2015 on (December 14, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

Anderson & Root balled well but to Tag them the Best in the world is little too much, these Indian pathetic bating line up made them look like un playable…

Posted by GrindAR on (December 14, 2012, 20:01 GMT)

@Eleil... Good sense of humor dude...look like the offer will stay for a while until the bug fix version is available :-)

Posted by anuprakir on (December 14, 2012, 19:59 GMT)

I just can't understand why sachin is not willing to go.By doing so he is spoiling his own record and reputation.Hope this is his last match in international cricket

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 19:51 GMT)

@ Nathan_R_Patrick.. what I do not understand is he has already scored 51 hundreds in tests. So if has made any promises as you claim why not play only ODIs (where he stands at 49 hundreds).... there surely must be something else. May be he has been around for so long that he has forgotten that even he has to go someday.

Posted by GrindAR on (December 14, 2012, 19:49 GMT)

Statistics mistake -

Prior's half-century is his 30th fifty-plus score in Tests. Among England wicketkeepers, only Alan Knott has more fifty-plus scores (35).

Incorrect,

Alec Stewart (Stewart, A J) has 45 fifty-plus scores in his career

Posted by LisaPereira on (December 14, 2012, 19:48 GMT)

I still don't get it....India will lost this test 3-1 and then thrash the Eng 5-0 in the ODI's and then every thing will look good. KP and some will come back to play the IPL next year..

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 14, 2012, 19:41 GMT)

@TRAM: Nobody really cares ANY MORE for Sachin. He used to stand for something great and exceptional. Now he's nothing more than 'old meat'. His retirement won't make people cry or faint. They will be sad yes but the ordinary Indian fan has seen so much failure in the last year and half that he/she will simply shrug it off and move on. I think Indian fans need to be realistic here. The prospect of India becoming a strong test nation in the next 2-3 years is highly unlikely. We as fans will have to be patient and put up with defeats for a while. The team is going through a transition and more young players will come in. Youth and inexperience will need time and patience to enable them to build strength and confidence. If the public demands immediate victories, then they are in for a shocker. Australia come in next and I cannot fathom an Indian win by any means. The score line COULD be different but I see Australia winning comfortably.

Posted by Partyman on (December 14, 2012, 19:40 GMT)

@ Bravo Bravo - I wouldn't pay any attention to the likes of Gavaskar, Shastri, Sri Kanth or for that matter TheBengalTiger, Cpt. Meanster and Gupta Ankur among others. These lot are completely losing their minds, given that their "heroes" are getting walloped by England. They don't comprehend that England's performance is due to the virtues of hard work, commitment, dedication and determination, the qualities which their players wouldn't even heard of. Shame on these fans and ex Indian players. Pathetic to say the least. Gupta Ankur is the worst of the lot. He thinks his team has got the best batting line up in the world under home conditions!! What does that even mean? Some Indian fans are crowing that they will take revenge in the ODI series!! How pathetic!! Finally, most of the Indian commentators, fans and players don't realise that England players are far superior to their Indian counterparts in terms of fitness and techniques. Case rested.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

I think Sachin should have retired last year after winning WC. but not to be, it is to late now to leave any legacy, we would all be thank full if he retires.

Posted by bobmartin on (December 14, 2012, 19:32 GMT)

@ Joel Carter.. Before you can hold the Ashes, you've got to win them... Something Aus have dismally failed to do on the last three occasions.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 19:32 GMT)

Its sad when a great career is comming to an end - but by prolonging it can take the shine off. Having said that I assume all the people who rely on Sachin for a living will hope he continues. As for England I hope this is their second comming with regard to the world No. one spot charge!

Posted by Partyman on (December 14, 2012, 19:28 GMT)

" Posted by YipeeKayA on (December 14 2012, 16:35 PM GMT) India are rubbish - Pakistan are 100 times better than the useless Indians could ever dream of being. Give up and go play rounders instead! ps Tendulkar is the most overated batsman I've ever seen!" This is a very well thought out comment. Well done. Must have taken a lot out of you, to come out with something like that. Signing off, An England Supporter.

PS If you are making comments, say something worthwhile. If you have nothing to say, don't say it.

Posted by bobmartin on (December 14, 2012, 19:23 GMT)

@ Kalpesh Shah (December 14 2012, 17:18 PM GMT) You might care to consider that it was India's decision that vetoed DRS being used.. Think about that... you could have been looking at 450-500 if it had been in place and Pujara might still be batting. So blame it on the BCCI's intransigence.

Posted by Stark62 on (December 14, 2012, 19:19 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy Really?!?! Nasser Hussain said on commentary today, he thinks the best fast bowler is Steyn and spinner being Ajmal.

Posted by bobmartin on (December 14, 2012, 19:16 GMT)

Posted by Kalpesh Shah on (December 14 2012, 17:18 PM GMT) "Pujara's wrong decision will cost India the Match" Cook's decision means at least India are still in the game.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 14, 2012, 19:13 GMT)

@Eleil, lol. That was hilarious. But, remember, these offers don't last for ever. So, if you are an Aussie, pray that it lasts at least till April, 2013. Seriously, though, you got to remember that Tendulkar was India's top scorer in the first innings in Kolkata. The little master still has fight in him although I hope, for England's sake, that he fails in the second innings too.

Posted by hhillbumper on (December 14, 2012, 19:12 GMT)

trouble with jimmy Anderson is he is only any use in home conditions. Guess that is another myth put to bed about him then. Good bowling in these conditions and now time to ram home the advantage.

Well played by Joe Root.he lloks like he could be a bit of a talent.Ironically he is normally an opening bat so looks like he can play spin.

Posted by notgburns on (December 14, 2012, 19:07 GMT)

To the people replying to freo75. I would like to introduce you to a concept you might not be familiar with. It is called sarcasm. Freo, by his handle, is probably Australian, or perhaps English. Both these nationalities are quite known for employing sarcasm in their commentary, often at their own expense, a habit, I might add, which would do Indian cricket a world of good.

Toodles

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 14, 2012, 19:06 GMT)

we will who is real asian champion with series in india against pak , till then pak fans should keep mum

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 14, 2012, 19:06 GMT)

This is game set and done. Can't see an inexperienced Indian middle order handle all the pressure on a slowish wicket. Both Dhoni and Kohli need to apply themselves and score big hundreds if India even want to draw the game from here. I feel SORRY for Tendulkar and his fans. You guys keep worshipping a 'God that Failed. The world is moving forward. Time for Sachin to pack his bags and leave. Thanks for the years of entertainment Sachin, but you are no longer the player you were. Time to groom Rahane for the middle order slot. Well played to young Joe Root, brought up in Headingley where the ball zips and zooms past the batsmen at pace. Here he comes and drops anchor on a slow, low Indian pitch. Now that can't be taught folks, it's a result of hard work and sincerity. Something which the Indians can learn.

Posted by Strikeforce2007 on (December 14, 2012, 19:05 GMT)

Sehwag & Tendulkar sang the same song as they occupied the crease facing upto Jimmy Anderson, here's what they sang...

Something's happening here What it is, ain't very clear there's this Anderson ball seaming in telling me I got be soon leaving! everybody! Hey what's that sound My middle stump is off the ground!!

England should wrap Dhoni and his ponies off by Day 4, and it's time the Indian team nurture stallions. G'nite!

Posted by sachinisawesome on (December 14, 2012, 19:03 GMT)

@Omarrz champions don't ask other teams for favors.

Posted by TRAM on (December 14, 2012, 18:55 GMT)

Even if SRT announces his retirement now no one would care and every one will openly express happiness/relief. I am sure millions of Indian cricket fans are deprived of good cricket because of SRT & other oldies staying in the team. Even if Gambhir & SRT had scored some 50 or so runs, would that help India's cricket, the way they are struggling?? And all these in the so called dead pitch! Why not the selectors let the youngsters struggle like that, at least they have a chance of improving due to age factor.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 18:52 GMT)

I really fear Indian cricket now:) not pressing the panic button but loosing at home are alarming signs. 3-1 here and I fear aus will beat India 0-4 once again. Pathetic.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 18:51 GMT)

Riddhiman Saha and Dinda should get a look in. Dhoni has lost it as a captain and Saha is a better Wkeeper any day.

Posted by Omarrz on (December 14, 2012, 18:44 GMT)

Come on England. Demolish India! And let the world accept who the real Asian Test Champion is (if you know what I mean.. ;) )

Posted by Nathan_R_Patrick on (December 14, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

It has been proved time and again that Sachin cannot stop the middle order collapse. Makes me wonder, Laxman's (albeit premature) departure has cost india dearly in AUS and this series. Not to mention, Dravid's void hasn't been filled by anyone yet. Pujara seemed to show some signs but performed only when everything appeared hunky dory. At least he has not shown enough resistance in the crisis situation. Sachin appears to not have been listening to his inner voice and is compelled to continue due to some promises he made to his family members (living + non-living) to score 50 centuries in each format and 100 centuries in total. He needs to understand that destiny can be very cruel no matter what kind of skills one possesses. If it is meant to be, it will happen but if it is not, it never will no matter if tries to stay on course for another 50 yrs. More he gets anxious about it, harder it is to achieve. The urge is understandable but the application is missing.

Posted by Alok_brahmbhatt on (December 14, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

If peoples opinion counts, selectors make the move,change the upcoming one day team 1)Rahane2)Ghambhir3)Kholi4)Raina5)Yuvraj6)Jadeja7)Dhoni8)Dinda9)Ishant10)Awana11)Ashwin. Believe it or not it will bring pride to Team India after this HISTORICAL SHAME GIVEN to the team by our so called Legendary Great Player Netaji (Tendulkar) and so called most dangerous player (Shewag) who once in a century scores a century. Only way to teach this players a lesson is to sack them OUT-OUT-OUT.

Posted by cjscanada on (December 14, 2012, 18:28 GMT)

This is it for the series according to me. I expected a lot from Sehwag and sachin but that was not to be. Anderson bowled extremely well and to me he can be a great bowler alongside Steyn. Also I like Root. If you look at the time he came in, it was a high pressure situation and he coped with it beautifully. That was the turning point. I do not make reference to Matt cause for me he is the essence of a dependable mid-order bat. This pitch is still easy to bat but the damage is done. I think England will win with Australia. The top two teams are SA and England. They showed determination. India has to regroup. Let us see how they start rebuilding. You cannot have Jadeja, and Ashwin in the same line for a Test unless you consider the later a batsman. With a little bit of exposure Jadeja may develop as he looks to be hardworking. Not impressed with piyush's profile.

Posted by cricindian123 on (December 14, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

Why rahane is not giving a chance.....how jadeja gets inside....

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

@Kalpesh->Lol at Pujara..Like he scored 300 runs in each inngs of last test match.He is new here.Give him some time.He scored well in starting 2 test matches.But he was a total flop show in the 3rd match.Its funny to hear things like only one of his decision would change the result

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (December 14, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

Fantastic effort from England. Need to strike early tomorrow, hopefully the worlds best spinner & worlds best fast bowler will start where they left off today.

Posted by WishIndiaImprove on (December 14, 2012, 18:19 GMT)

There is one more way to win matches for India. Two different pitches.. Flat one for India batting and rank turners for Eng.. How is that? :) :)

Posted by WishIndiaImprove on (December 14, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Don't worry Guys.. Ravindra will make 300+ again... :)... India can win any games if they focus. Right now they are govt officers and no need to work once they get in to job. Right now we need a team which is interested in cricket...not in money...

cricinfo.. please publish

Posted by sonicattack on (December 14, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

@RandyOZ - have you ever thought of publishing all the comments that you've made on here? It would make a great Christmas present for all England fans...if you are looking for one, the last Ashes DVD is still available and is cracking viewing!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

Time for Kohli, Jadeja, and Ashwin to stand up, and deliver as batsmen. There is no way for India to win, but the match can be drawn! Tendulkar has to go....Gambhir....? Sehwag delivers once every 10 innings! Time for new blood, India will do badly for some years, but then like Pakistan, will come back up...

Posted by Chapelau on (December 14, 2012, 18:15 GMT)

@RandyOz - you're all mouth and trousers buddy. Clarke has become (your only) class act, though still a bunny against the England attack. Your guys might try but they are still many many years away from even a sniff of the ashes. You have done well to stay at No.3 - watch out though - Pakistan are on your tails.

Posted by baranasai on (December 14, 2012, 18:06 GMT)

It is clear That Indian batsmen are all struggling including SRT.If Shewag fails dont offer that as reason for SRts failures- a new boy playing for the first time in the test cricket has shown how to play in conditions like this. About SRT - he now has understood wher he stands - He will go out Like ricky Ponting no Garlands etc.He has to show some semblance of creativity for a senior batsmen especially in circumnstances like this. About MSD it is time he is sacked as test captain.Please rest Shwag for a few series and let him beg for chnaces-he cant keep wasting the openers like this.Regarding the rest of the team all need a rotation ploicy including Pujara so that they will understand no body is permanent unless they stand and perform-no mre charity no more who knows who -either you do or give way for the better player .no more Mr Charity india

Posted by VivSingh on (December 14, 2012, 18:04 GMT)

India needed this humiliation. Now there is nowhere to hide. It pains me to say that I really hope Virat and MSD don't come good tomorrow for fear that it would be used to argue that everything is OK. India is currently a substandard Test nation. Sehwag's unpredictability was fine when the other batsmen could make runs. The middle order stopped being solid and now Sehwag's inconsistency has stopped being acceptable. Gambhir is for Indian pitches only; for a so called "fighter" this is a huge insult. IPL has seriously damaged Indian cricket, just look at the spinners.

Posted by Mitch1066 on (December 14, 2012, 18:03 GMT)

England seam be on top now :) go England finish these game why there always people questioning the English players right play for? Seven out of 11 are English born and bread. Rest have passport of uk

Posted by happy-go-lucky on (December 14, 2012, 18:03 GMT)

"That, though, should take nothing away from the brilliance of Ian Bell's catch, low to his right."

Lol! Once it did not hit the bat it's not a catch.

English media is having a field day rubbing it in. Its ok. Go ahead. We will take it on the chin and move on. We are a team in transition and key players out of form. But this is just temporary. We will come roaring back!

Posted by voma on (December 14, 2012, 18:02 GMT)

Its up to England now to win this series 3 -1 , as an englishman i wont gloat tho . Hey ive seen my own team beaten enough at HOME ! , over the last 20 years . But come on , give credit where its due . James Anderson , must be considered one of the best fast swing bowlers in the world .

Posted by Umar_3214135 on (December 14, 2012, 18:00 GMT)

As a Pakistani i just want to say thats a bad time for India specially for Tendulkar i love him he can play till there is no replacement so Good luck indiaaaa i hope and i wish for india winnnnnnnn , i hope Dhoni and Kohli Stay till 400 runs and smash those english bowlers like in T20, love u indian Team !!

Aman Ka chaka laga laga re aman ka chaka lagaaaa

Posted by kumarsSansai on (December 14, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

Sachin Please go retired now. Sehwag and Gambhir cannot play cricket now they are interested to involve in Politics. I would like to fired both on same time. specially Shame Shame Shame on you Gambhir.

Please give chance to other people who can change Indian cricket.

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 14, 2012, 17:54 GMT)

I don't blame dhoni i blame duncan fletcher. He might be the problem guy. After 2011 he took over , it is downhill since. Dhoni has proven he is a good captain but he is non performing captain. I will get rid of all non performers and replace all current bowlers . I will field completely 11 new players including kohli amd pujara tour against pakistan.

Posted by Prakmca on (December 14, 2012, 17:49 GMT)

Why Dhoni came before the greatest allrounder Jadeja??? Is this save Jadeja for a while??? Everyone know against the quality attack Jadeja cannot do anything. But still he is an Internaltional Player :-).

Rahane should be given the chance ahead of Jadeja. He was there waiting for long time who is having good technique, play shots against all kind bowling attack. Why again and again Jadeja.. GOD ONLY KNOWS.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:41 GMT)

Wanted the fire of Ganguly, the steel of Dravid and the confidence of Laxman. Instead, you have the rashness of Sehwag, the stupidity of Gambir and the anger of Kohli. Pujara and Ashwin are for keeps and Dhoni has to find a way to go for the kill. Too often over the past two years, India has failed to take advantage of good bowling st5arts. They are back to being the milquetoast of the cricket world. All promise but little else

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 14, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

As Greg Chappell said - we have so much talent that we can play 5, not 1, top level cricket teams. But first we need to get rid of non-performers like Tendulkar and Sehwag.

Posted by Mitch1066 on (December 14, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

Bengal tiger you are really one tick pony ain't u! Always moaning bout birth origin of four players . Just accept your overhyped stars are not as good as they were or are as good as they were build as I've only watched them two series against England and apart from one test have I even really had be concerned by them. There nothing wrong with wanting your team to win but bringing up four nil before tests even started surely that over the. Top. England have done nothing be banned for just glad Burke like u not in charge or cricket be dead! Time get job Bengal not a good being one trick pony

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:18 GMT)

Pujara's wrong decision will cost India the Match

Posted by haq33 on (December 14, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

The sad truth is that Dravid and Laxman should have retired WELL AFTER Sachin. I know that I would rather have Dravid or Laxman in a situation like this. Sachin may have scored some prettier runs but he is truly over-rated and overhyped by both the domestic and western media. In fact, I think that the overhyping of Sachin by western cricketers and media has (purely by accident) relegated the not so pretty styles of Dravid and Laxman to an inferior level in the psyche of the Indian public, thereby forcing them to retire before the magical Sachin. Sehwag recently said look what SRT has done for Indian cricket - well I would say that by allowing Dravid and Laxman to jump from the ship, he has just made absolutely sure that it sinks. Oh and since I mentioned him, Sehwag is nothing more than useless jetsam too.

Posted by ngs_s on (December 14, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

What a pity, Dravid where are you?

Posted by PrasPunter on (December 14, 2012, 17:16 GMT)

probably for the first time, got to admit what Front-Foot-Lunge has remarked - and this is coming from someone who accept nothing other than an Aussie victory in the matches we play - that Jimmy Anderson is the finest seam bowler in the cricketing world now - with due respect to Steyn . Had a chance to follow his spell late this evening - and boy - stunned to see the control he has over the old one - not to forget the beauty to knock-off sehwag. And this is unfolding on one of the flattest pitches ever made. Take a bow Jimmy !!!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:16 GMT)

India had already lost the chance to win the series, in Kolkatta. And, now they lost the chance to even level the series, in Nagpur.

India can not win the Nagpur test. There is a very remote chance for drawing it, especially with Pujara having one more chance, and Sir Ravindra and Ashwin having two more. All others look out of sorts.

Either way, it is England's triumph in India after a long time. Whether 2-1 or 3-1 is immaterial. They outplayed us in all departments. Let us accept that fact and congratulate them, especially for the kind of progress they made from UAE to India.

Hope India learn some lessons from that, introspect with honesty & integrity, and execute the badly required remedial measures without fear or favour.

With the top brass intoxicated with a heady cocktail of money, power, & politics (of all shades), chances are bleak. No; Mr Srinivasn? When the fish start to rot, it always starts from the head!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

Anderson is ONE in a million. No make it BILLION. How can Dhoni even dream of having An Anderson in his sorry line-up.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

Still Tendulkar is not ready to retire from circket selectors should kick him out.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

Tendulkar, you have been a great cricketer..... Please leave the scene before you are dropped

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 14, 2012, 17:01 GMT)

Well once again we should be ready to congratulate our English friends.Anderson bowled brilliantly as expected credit to him for that , but Kohli defended similar balls on which Tendulkar and Sehwag got out that sums up sorry state of Indian batting.Eng-India series always had some tough competitive cricket but from last two series we have witnessed one sided thrashing unfortunately.Success or tough time like this we have to back our team but its time for big changes.

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 14, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

Well once again we should be ready to congratulate our English friends.Anderson bowled brilliantly as expected credit to him for that , but Kohli defended similar balls on which Tendulkar and Sehwag got out that sums up sorry state of Indian batting.Eng-India series always had some tough competitive cricket but from last two series we have witnessed one sided thrashing unfortunately.Success or tough time like this we have to back our team but its time for big changes.

Posted by Jaffa79 on (December 14, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

Yet another batting talent for England. I bet the Aussies and the rest are envious of our conveyor belt of talent.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

We had an Australian coach and we lost. Now we have an English coach and we are losing. I remember Duncun Fletcher came to India as captain and coach earlier and lost badly. Now we have him as coach and we are losing. High time we get a local coach who can actually do things than appoint those who do not have any demand from their own countries.

Also the BCCI should select people who are playing well in domestic(Ranji) to play for the country. Not IPL fancy players and club favorites.

Test cricket is all about form. In Australia, England and SA the players who are in form in the Domestic leagues are rewarded.

Last time we replaced VVS(37 years) with Bhari(35 years) b'cos of age. Injured Zaheer Khan with RP Singh in England. Harbajan Singh b'Cos somebody remembered him suddenly. The guy is not even taking wickets Ranji.

Think selectors think(oops.... the BCCI president too). You need to set a bar for the team representing the Country with no compromise

Posted by JustIPL on (December 14, 2012, 16:59 GMT)

Game is virtually over for India after wonderful resolve shown by England under Peterson who showed the way with his wonderful resolve. This pitch was like ahmedabad but this time poms won the toss. Ishant eventually got low balls like umesh got in the first test. Also, ishant got advantage of the first use of pitch and with Anderson ultimate had to come. 199 on first day on this pitch was 300+ on the normal pitch and england were way ahead on day one as well. We asked for the head of Braod now what we will do with ojha who could not get anything. Lets see what Ashwin the batsmen does get challenged the opposite number in Swann. The heading suggests that India were in some sort of control but whatever they do poms are way ahead in application as a top team while India are much below their own standards.

Posted by CamS71 on (December 14, 2012, 16:57 GMT)

@ landl47 on (December 14 2012, 13:54 PM GMT)

Spot on mate.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

I know this is going to happen, I was expecting this. When Indian bowlers could control England to 195/5 on day 1, i thought England can restrict India to 95/5 on their first day of Indian innings. now Indian score is 84/4, its almost similar to what i expected. Some crazy, mindless retired Indian Cricketers say Indian team needs Sachin for 1 more year, I don't understand why Indian team still needs Sachin. What is sachin doing in the team teaching young stars how to get clean bowled or how to loose wickets easily?? We dont need you Sachin please leave the team, me being a biggest fan of you, now I started hating and abusing you. Don't make selectors to catch your neck and kick you from team. you will ill treated if you dont retire now.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT)

@ landl47->I was wrong actually.After watching India's batting i can see how terrible this pitch is.Momentum has shifted now..England has got a great chance of winning.Right now it seems like India is gonna fall into the follow on..

Posted by KukaSekhon on (December 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT)

Seriously.Dhoni should be fired from test captaincy. Viru,Sahin and Gambhir should play domestic crricket for 1 year and if they improve they can be selected again. BCCI sshould be free of corrupt politicians and businessmen, Fire Pawar, Shrinivas, Shukla, Manohar, Shetty...

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 16:54 GMT)

@ landl47->I was wrong actually.After watching India's batting i can see how terrible this pitch is.Momentum has shifted now..England has got a great chance of winning.Right now it seems like India is gonna fall into the follow on..

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

time to say bye to Sachin....! and wonder why Badri is not in the team.... what else he needs to be doing get a go

Posted by SivaSurapaneni on (December 14, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

Dear Tendulkar, For God sake, please retire.

Dear Sehwag, Please move down the batting order. You are not a good opener now.

Dear Dhoni, Please step down as a Test Captain. You have too little Tests success in the recent past and don't inspire any more confidence.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

KAIF, VENU GOPAL RAO.. these two names could make it into the test side. if only the board would bother to give them a chance..

Posted by Strikeforce2007 on (December 14, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

Is there no better Indian team? These guys are goners! England should wrap up with a win on day 4, they are far ahead in every department of the game.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 14, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

I feel I need to respond to those experts who inform us how India have dominated England for the last 20 years. Since 1992 not including current test obviously (20 years) India V England: India 9 wins, England 9 wins, 9 draws. Total tests (ever) 105 tests: India 20 wins, England 40 wins, 46 draws. From my memory of stats at university that 'domination' is not statistically significant but what do actual figures show compared to hearsay.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

India you have run out of excuses and it is time to accept that you need to rebuild. Even against this ridiculously pedestrian attack your ineptitude shines through and it makes me laugh when I think of an attack of Anderson and Swann taking wickets in India. These guys would usually struggle to get a game with the local club playing on hard wicket and you are making them look like they deserve to play for their country. England also need to go back to South Africa or Ireland and recruit ASAP or else expect Australia to hold the Ashes for another 16 years.

Posted by SridharKalyan on (December 14, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

After watching the Indian side for the last 2 days, it is clear that Viru, Sachin and Dhoni are all beyond their "use-by" date. Viru's usual strategy of scoring in the first match of a series and then taking it easy for the rest of it, might have worked so far - his bluff should be called now. Dhoni is fast losing both his shine and his credibility. Then the next group on the radar should be - Ishant and Ashwin. Both are physically not fit to be playing at this level - even at home conditions. So, what is left? Make Kohli the captain - and get the Punjab-lad Mandeep to be his deputy. Get Awana, Sandeep Sharma (Punjab) to lead the pace attack. Pick Ishant Saxena to man the spin team along with P Ohja and R Jadeja. Get either N Ohja or D Karthik to keep the wickets - and batting lineup could be Jiwanjot Singh/M Vijay, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma (with a clear deliverable), Pujara, M Tiwary and Mandeep Singh. In short, a clean break from the present and build for the future.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

post this match Tendulkar & dhoni are out. Sachin will retire & dhoni will sacked

Posted by madras_boy on (December 14, 2012, 16:36 GMT)

Tendulkar getting bowled - Unbelievable. It is always hard to get him out this way but the happenings reminds of me last days of Tendulkar in cricket. I wanted him to make a century atleast in this series or the australian one. But can he retain his place for the australian tour ??? Time will tell but the going gonna get tough for Sehwag, Tendulkar and Gambhir. Probably we should start the rotation policy so that the seniors are rested series by series while giving opps for youngsters to chip in. A place in the Indian cricket team cannot be taken for granted and it should be a prized possession in the cricket mad country.

Posted by NairUSA on (December 14, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

Have to admire England's performance in Indian conditions. Team India has now reached the lowest ebb possible. BCCI will need to replace both Dhoni and Fletcher. Dhoni had a great run and now, it is time to for a new Captain. Indian team should see a massive overhaul of the old players with new faces.

Posted by YipeeKayA on (December 14, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

India are rubbish - Pakistan are 100 times better than the useless Indians could ever dream of being. Give up and go play rounders instead!

ps Tendulkar is the most overated batsman I've ever seen!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

As an England fan it is good to see the team performing well again in fairly alien conditions. It is a result of excellent preparation and exceptional fitness. The outcomes this series have been no surprise. When the Indian team came to England last time they looked like the worst prepared, badly motivated and out of condition team to have toured for years.

We all know they have great talent, but that is a given at this level, and it's just a matter of degree. I'm not arguing that fitness is required for it's own sake, but cricket skills are executed best by those at the peak of their powers. But when you see an international sportsman who can barely run because he is so fat, you have to wonder what they are doing on the field at all.

Until the Indian set up realises that the best teams excel in all aspects of the game, and fitness is central to that, they are going to beaten by everyone. I think it shows no respect to their wonderful fans to treat preparation so casually.

Posted by topatilsameer on (December 14, 2012, 16:32 GMT)

I think this is the time to celebrate great career of Mr Sachin Tendulkar. Every emotional indian cricket fan cribs and rues about each game when india is losing at home for them our great home record comes to nothing. They are furious because England is winning on slow turning pitches but ignore to acknowledge the kind of humiliation england cricket went for past 2 decades and kind of efforts they have put in to come to this position. Indian fans always miss to acknowledge the great service Mr tendulkar has done for Indian cricket for past 23 years and till 2011 he was god and now a villain. We did same to Dravid and Laxman. Gaguly was fortunate because he declared in advance this could be Sachins last game or next series could be his last. Try to acknowledge the great service he has done every great cricketer in his twilight should be treated with respect enjoy englands victory as we enjoyed beating them after 21 years in 2007. Cricket games are won by better teams and not individual

Posted by bobmartin on (December 14, 2012, 16:29 GMT)

Posted by Qazi Hassan on (December 14 2012, 14:49 PM GMT) " there is no need for Tendulker to retire until there are better test batsmen to take his place." That really isn't very logical. How do you know there is not a better, or at least as good a batsman as he is at the moment, if you never give one a chance. He should have been dropped some time ago and sent away to recover his form, That would have given another player the chance to stake a claim. Instead, all the selectors are doing is gambling that his form will return. A gamble that hasn't paid off.. Note what England did, even at this crucial stage in the series, dropped Patel who hadn't performed and introduced Root.. That has done two things. 1) proved that Root has the technique to become a test batsman.. 2) Tell Patel, if he didn't know it already, that his place is up for grabs if he doesn't perform. If India had followed that strategy, they could well not be 2-1 down and struggling to even square the series.

Posted by CrazybutFun on (December 14, 2012, 16:28 GMT)

This hurts :( But credit to England - they were well prepared and stuck to their task even after losing the first test match. Hats off to Captain Cook :) To all my fellow countrymen(Indian fans) - Lets appreciate good cricket and accept that we are getting hammered by a better team. A young n a new Captain, 2 Debutants, the whole KP saga, bad history in the sub-continent including recent losses to pak in UAE and lost the first test match, to come back from all of this shows real character. Hopefully, fingers crossed - india will do the necessary after this series to protect test cricket and put a decent team on the field.

Posted by ChrisKOTW on (December 14, 2012, 16:27 GMT)

Poor freo75. I don't think a lot of people understood your sarcasm. I appreciated it at least. It's not over yet, I'm concerned about the pitch for England's second innings but winning the toss could prove crucial when it comes to India batting last.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (December 14, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

@all fellow England fan. We have been getting thrashed by India fan on here on cricinfo for sooo long now. I totally agree with you @Trickstar - horrible comment was said by hundreds of Indian fans before the series, but all prediction and big talk now coming home to roost. When the silence come at the end of this series it will be blessed relief. I wonder how long silence will last though...

Posted by SamRoy on (December 14, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

What does Rahane have to do, to get a game? Surely, with 3 batsman who need replacement (Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar) he could have easily fitted in any of those positions. Dhoni wouldn't have dropped Zaheer or Yuvraj if they were in the 15 member team. Rahane and Rohit both average 60+ in first class cricket and both deserve to play test cricket for India. Also Manoj Tiwary. And either of Saha/Karthik. Test Team should look like: Rahane, Mandeep, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit, Tiwary/Jadeja/Meenaria, Ashwin, Saha, Ojha, Yadav, Awana.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

don't lol solid snake pujara was given out wrongfully just like cook ok.

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (December 14, 2012, 16:12 GMT)

Indian Test Team needs lots of changes staring with Dhoni....I accept that he has done very good in past few years...but now he has lost that killer instinct to outplay the opposition in test matches...he is very good in ODIs and T20s.....Gambhir - he has go back to ranji and learn some basics of playing long innings...Sheway - every1 knows that when he clicks the match is ours, he is playing well only once in 20 matches... Pujara - we should give him more time. SACHIN - he is my GOD and will be my GOD and I am sensing that he will retire after the Australia tour to India....Kohli - he need to control his temperament... Ohja - very good bowler...Ashwin - he should remember that he is bowler allrounder not a batsman allrounder....Ishant - he was OK and need to improve a lot...

Bring Rahane and Tiwary even Rohit..these players need to tested before we jump on to any conclusions....Rahane is a class act and surely deserve a place...

Posted by ArmChairUmpire on (December 14, 2012, 16:10 GMT)

I heard Sunil Gavaskar say over and over again, while England were still batting, that Anderson was the bowler to watch when India bat. And Sunny was spot on. BTW: It is refreshing to hear Harsha Bhogle, Ravi Shastri, Sunil Gavaskar, Sanjay Manjrekar, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly and Shivramakrishnan (in not particular order). They make watching the game a true delight. The best part, as the TV cameras describe a lot of the action, they restrict their comments to the briefest possible. Well done Guys. Well done Paul Collingwood too.

Posted by melmotte on (December 14, 2012, 16:10 GMT)

You don't have to tell me there's a vast difference between T20 and test cricket, but I watched several of this years IPL matches on UK TV and was very impressed by Rahane's batting. He scored freely all round the wicket mainly with orthodox cricket shots and I'd be very surprised if, once he's given the chance, he couldn't repeat that success at test level. He's not a bad fielder either. I might have posted this comment after the second test, but didn't want to see him in the Indian side until they face the Aussies!

Posted by Sinhaya on (December 14, 2012, 15:57 GMT)

Well played England once again. Swann, Anderson and Panesar are simply the bowling maestros.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:56 GMT)

Love the comments about the caps ! Matt Prior's cap is one of the most disgusting specimens I have ever seen - it's even scruffier than Ricky Ponting's baggy green, if that is possiblle. Has he ever heard of dry cleaners ? I thought England had gotten around this particular problem by giving players a numbered cap after each 25 tests, but obviously not - superstition takes precedence !

Posted by iraj17 on (December 14, 2012, 15:54 GMT)

I hate when people say that pick him (indian younger batsman/bowler) bcoz he has good batting/bowling average in firstclass. They think the player will perform in international as he did first class. THAT'S COMPLETELY WRONG. BCOZ U know the reason...indian players played against each other in their first class matches. u can score how many runs u want against indian bowlers.. u can take how many wickets u want againt indian batsman.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

sachin's carrer is over for sure . he should anounce his retirment after this match before the selectors drop and disrespect him . dhoni should still be the captain of indain test team because of his leadership skills,gambhir is a selfish cricketer he is not a captainship material . for the next series drs should be taken because one wrong desicion can change the complex of the match

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

At the end of this test (obviously 3-1), we would expect the same old reasons: Our (Indian) bowlers let down our winning chances. They did not bowl well and did not restrict the first innings score of England (may be they are expecting bowlers to keep england below 100 runs). Otherwise we would have won this match and leveled the series. In future we will not take even 4 bowlers and will go with 2 or 3 bowlers only. Because batting is our strength (?).

Let us stop here and please tell them, Unless or until the losing team give away all 20 wickets, no team in the world can win any Test match. Also tell them, if bowlers are not bowling well, Test matches will end in a draw and not loosing like this. The reason that I am saying here is, Eventhough I can tolerate these defeats because of transition period, these people explanations for losing match is horrible to listen. They never admitting their incapable batting powers and always throwing stones (only) at bowlers.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 14, 2012, 15:48 GMT)

@KameshRao, you suggested yesterday that England didn't have the ability to adapt to these conditions and should learn from India when they bat. David and George were right on the money about the pitch yesterday. Facts do not change because one team is doing better than the other.

Posted by arun249 on (December 14, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

sachin sholud retire. Dhoni should be sacked from indian test team. No favoritism for CSK player. N.SRINIVASAN sholud be kept in jail for doing bussiness in selection pannel. Pitches should be better. Youth should be given more opportunities like ajinkya rahane. Virat should be given captaincy. Gambhir should be dropped and any player in the national side should be awarded place for consistent good performances in Ranji trophy. Need for real fast young bowlers who can bowl more than 145kph at a consistant basses. AND FINALLY NO ONE IN INDIAN TEAM SHOULD THINK A PLACE IN NATIONAL SIDE IS LIKE A SEAT IN A GOVERNMENT OFFICE. ONLY THEN INDIA WILL START WINING. DHONI THANKS FOR THE WORLD CUP BUT FOR TIME IS UP..

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

Why we are blaming the indian team rather than dhoni, india won both the WCs when Yuvi performed well, india was No.1 test team when Sachin,sehwag,gambhir,zaheer, bhaji dravid,laxman were performing well but all credit went to dhoni always. I also was a big fan of dhoni, but when he become selfish since than he is not my hero.he is a good one day player.But T20 nad test does not suit him.

Posted by kartikadi on (December 14, 2012, 15:45 GMT)

England have worked hard, simply shows in every session. The team is on a high. India need to take a leaf out of the English in every department be it bowling or batting.

Posted by Raj12345 on (December 14, 2012, 15:43 GMT)

Guys don't talk about rohit Sharma, he has given more chances. Please don't forget his last 10 ODI failures, that is enough close the door to him. What mistake Dinesh Karthik done, why he is been over looked after having too many hundreads in domestic latest.

Posted by Makkumatr on (December 14, 2012, 15:43 GMT)

As sad it is to see India bundled out cheaply on their own turf and heading towards another series loss, this are necessary defeats for the BCCI higher-ups to take serious note and revamp the entire team. No more relying on players who have nothing but their past records to show for performance. If you are in good form, you are in. Else, you are rested.

Posted by drsambit on (December 14, 2012, 15:43 GMT)

its time selectors take up the responsiblity and stop selecting teams on basis of past records only. tomorrow our batsmen have to show a fight or it will be a heart break for all of us. Sachin should seriously think of his future in tests. Rahane should have been picked as a extra batsman as we are losing matches not due to bowling but due to pathetic batting.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

There were times when India lost badly on foreign soil, the Indians said "wait till they come to India, and we'll show who's No. 1".. Well, they have arrived, and are showing who's really No. 1. As long as the money-minded, selfish Indian players keep making excuses and excuses, and not perform, Indian cricket will go downhill, very fast.

Posted by jgarner79 on (December 14, 2012, 15:40 GMT)

After following Sachin's career for such a long time for the first time I feel time has come for him to hang up his boots...Time to go Master...

Posted by bumsonseats on (December 14, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

im not sure dravid wanted to retire as his position on form only deserved his place in the indian team. tendulkar should have have or been made to move aside, be it behind the scene with him and his own board.saying he deserves to name his own retirement is a piece of nonsense. the team were in decline and he was never going to improve his decline.from billy bowden not give his out at lords i think were they just dont get any plumber, people were starting to feel sorry for him.if he had gone after the english debacle,i fell that both dravid and laxman would both have been playing in this series. im positive both new with the 3 oldies the team was never going to move on. both fell on their swords just so a guy 2 years older than them could continue.its true the 100 x 100 got to him but heckthe guys got records to burn so that should not have been a reason.announce your retirement now let your fans see you off in the 2nd innings

Posted by Resultpredictor on (December 14, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

Now its down to Captain Dhoni, Kohli, debutant Jadeja and Ashwin to bail out India and score somewhere around 300

Posted by jb633 on (December 14, 2012, 15:33 GMT)

If one side deserved the beating it is India. India may go on to win this game but they have disgraced themselves since the WC2011 win. Throughout the tours of ENG/AUS I have never witnesses behaviour so poor from players that are getting paid so well and are representing over a billion people. In no test match away from home did they even compete. Most fans can stomach their side losing if they have given their all but what they cannot accept is giving in and accepting defeat. Throughout the tours we heard nothing but excuses, the Oval described as a green top, Perth a "pastuerised cow field", injuries etc etc. England had a nightmare tour of the UAE and were deservedly beaten by a PAK side who played good cricket. They have had a poor 2012 and the performance against SA could have spelled the end of them as a top 3 side. Instead of giving in though they worked on their weaknesses and have come back stronger for it, it shows great charcter. India have dispalyed nothing of the sort.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

sehwag should be in middle order which makes it more experienced ...include rahane as opener with gambhir ,tiwary and dinda must be in ..they can do much more than just supplying drinks and warming the benches..and finally i NEVER thought i would say this but...SACHIN...its high time now.....

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:28 GMT)

sehwag should be in middle order which makes it more experienced ...include rahane as opener with gambhir ,tiwary and dinda must be in ..they can do much more than just supplying drinks and warming the benches..and finally i NEVER thought i would say this but...SACHIN...its high time now.....

Posted by RandyOZ on (December 14, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

The battle of the minnows is finally coming to an end. This unskillful and boring series is not what world cricket needs. Terrible batting from both sides on dead pitches is embarrassing. I guess we were all spoilt though with the best two teams battling it out down under.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

@ TheBengalTiger When you say England should be banned for the way they behave on the field you mean beating India in their own backyard?!? If so you'll be calling for every team who tour India to be banned if they don't sort themselves out pretty soon !

Posted by Rags57 on (December 14, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

There was so much hue and cry raised yesterday about Cook being wrongly given out by the English reporter - today's report on Pujara's dismissal by another reporter just talks about the ball coming off the elbow rather than glove and goes on to say "take nothing away from the brilliance of Bell's catch". What kind of biased reporting are we seeing in cricinfo? Shouldn't the reporter at least admit that Pujara was unlucky or there was a horrible error like they mentioned about Cook's dismissal? No one would disagree that India have been outplayed in this series but to me that is more due to Dhoni's and BCCI's outrageous approaches to pitches and the famed India seniors' repeated failures than to any other reason. Cook and Peterson have been brilliant but if one more batsman had offered support to Pujara India would have been 2-1 up than England. But in any case let's stop this biased reporting by cricinfo for heaven's sake!!

Posted by big_cheese on (December 14, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

I am all for spin pitches, as Dhoni rightly said, the meaning of 'playing all around the world' will be pointless if we were to have pacy tracks all over. But, work on the players first then have balance between spin & pacy pitches. For, solely focusing on spin pitches, will repeat India's "CONSISTENT" performance of 4-0 & 4-0.

I am hoping that these two sides continue whatever they have been doing so far in the series and India lose this test.

Posted by SamRoy on (December 14, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

People are missing an important fact here. Pujara, Kohli, Ojha, Ashwin and even Jadeja (doesn't bowl any loose balls) have talent. Rest though need immediate replacement. Tendulkar should be tried publicly in India's supreme court for playing for himself and not allowing India a smooth transition in test cricket.

Posted by big_cheese on (December 14, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

'Sometimes a loss is as good as a win'. India was in a denial when they were thrashed in England & Australia (one series loss is OK or two series losses are OK or it happens to everybody or Even England lost to us 5-0 or Even England lost to us 2-0 in test series). Is this true? Hell yeah... but after those losses, those sides have worked hard, (as it is evident in England's case) very hard to get better. But in the case of India, they were just 'waiting' for the home season to start and magically they 'good' spinners would eke out extra-ordinary performances and all of a sudden they would start winning. Sadly, that dream lasted only for test. Hopefully, the players and the people who run Indian cricket realize the bad phase India is in now and do some retrospection.

Posted by zuber21886 on (December 14, 2012, 15:19 GMT)

i see no reason why they can't say to sachin to sit out of the team at least for one match!!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

Ricky Ponting: Ishant Sharma :: Sachin Tendulkar: James Anderson

Posted by CbeCricket on (December 14, 2012, 15:17 GMT)

Mr Tendulkar, please leave for India's good. You better leave before you are dropped. Oh no he cannot be dropped but will be rested. Dare not drop him.

Posted by ahsanjabbar on (December 14, 2012, 15:16 GMT)

If defeats in Australia & England were wounds; this is adding salt to them; Pakistan has great opportunity to put last nail in the coffin. thats a feary fairy tale; in 18 months from much celebrated gods (WC Winners) to Down & Dusted ....

Posted by shantacricket on (December 14, 2012, 15:16 GMT)

I dont know why my comments are not posted here...... Its a poor decision to go with 4 spinners.Its Dhonis dectership which is creating the problem.It would have been a different story if DINDA would have been paying instead of Piush.

Now they have taken Rabindra Jadeja in place of Ajinkya Rahane but i am not sure whether Jadeja can bat like Rahane.I think a proper batsman would have been mauch better than a batting allrounder or bolling allrounder.

Posted by 200ondebut on (December 14, 2012, 15:15 GMT)

I don't think anyone in the England team will be getting too carried away just yet. Still three days and 270 overs to go. A good day for England though and a step towards banishing the sub-continent voodoo.

Posted by samudralakiku on (December 14, 2012, 15:11 GMT)

India should lose this match inside 4 days and this series 3-1. Unless that happens, there is not going to be any change in the team mindset and composition. BCCI will not change as long as they keep making insane amounts of money.

Posted by Eleil on (December 14, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

It appears India is now running a festive offer. If you take Pujara's wicket, you get Tendulkar absolutely free. I wonder the offer is only for this series?!

Posted by stormy16 on (December 14, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

India has probably one chance to get ahead and that would batting well tomorrow. I dont get what has happened to this mighty batting line up - ok on flat tracks - but struggling even on a flat track. Eng have been sensational again. Today was hard fought test cricket of the highest standards. First making it to 330 from the precarious overnight score and then knocking over India's top order - again!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:09 GMT)

India and only India treat man as God. Only here individual gets importance not Nation. BCCI is a one-man show and spoiling Indian cricket. We are wasting many young talents by denying their entry into the squad and giving more importance to old horse.

Posted by vipravara on (December 14, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

Superb display of test match temperament and professionalism from the English side pressing for success in the unhelpful conditions. A lot for the Indian side to learn from them- a cricket lover from India.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:05 GMT)

@Freo75. You have to laugh. Still - evens out, the two biggest run scorers in the series - Cooke and Pujara - both out to umpire errors. Cookes was a shocker, it wouldn't have hit a second off stump. BCCI talks about DRS should be "perfect" there is no such system on EARTH in any field of life that is perfect. Nothing...ever. To insist on perfect is just another way of saying "no". Perfection may be strived for - it is NEVER achieved by anyone - or any thing - ever.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

Anderson getting his bigger inswings in the indian conditions is a mystery here

Posted by ibbotsoni on (December 14, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

I've been an England fan for 30 years. Always followed them through ups and downs. When they do poorly it really affects my mood in everything I do. It matters. James Anderson is my favourite cricketer. I suppose you could say I've got a soft spot for him, ever since he came to prominence ten years ago in Australia. I always look out for his figures, hoping he gets to 300 wickets and beyond, hoping his bowling average will fall below 30.

But I tell you what, when he bowled Tendulkar, the only feeling I had was sorry and pitty for Tendulkar, and sad that his batting average was falling below what it should be. I don't want his legacy tainted by too many failures.

Isn't that weird? I can't remember ever feeling sad or unhappy about England taking a wicket in 30 years.

Posted by MoCrik on (December 14, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

Good, India loosing again, I'm happy atleast Sachin will be kickked out after this series. Future is ours.

Posted by forestfan59 on (December 14, 2012, 15:01 GMT)

LOL @Freo75

They have a system called DRS..you know the one India refuses to use...the only test playing country who does! Umpires are human and at first view, the only one an umpire gets, it looked to have brushed the glove....only by using replays that India have refused themselves, could we see it came off the arm. I have no sympathy for a team who thinks it's bigger than the ICC! I do have sympathy with those of us who want to see the correct decisions given.

Posted by Htc-Android on (December 14, 2012, 15:01 GMT)

I am still waiting for Harmony111 to comment on this page. when lost the test match to NZ, he was talking trash about our a team. Now his team is on the verge of losing the series at home. I hope he hasnt gone into coma stage.

Posted by Dhanvanth on (December 14, 2012, 14:54 GMT)

The basic problem with India is that they dont recognize talent and if at all they do they dont utilize it properly. There r so many ppl who have never played international cricket despite superb domestic records! Only have to pity them! Guys like rahane tiwary dinda rohit Sharma and many others are unlucky not to get a chance even once! Just tells us how corrupt the Indian cricket is at present! Dhoni and Srini playing pranks:):(

Posted by ecricl on (December 14, 2012, 14:54 GMT)

the problem is die hard indian supporters are judging standard of their current team by names not by the recent form they r playing. so they r hopeful rank turner will kill pommies. that didnt happen. ok slow low pitch will kill them viru will get tht 330 within an hour............tht was the mind set of some supporters or commentators but third ball of innings and an inings lasting 13 balls answered their question. now its left to formless kohli and dhoni. they hav to be cautious. some body off form may get back form any match but before tht happens judge ur team by the way it is playing not by the names playing

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:52 GMT)

no wonder doomsday is nearing....sachin tendulkar...with 23 years of experience pushing and prodding like a club player playing his first serious game....hehehehe...m sure thts a signal for sumthing drastic....the passion of christ was easier to sit through....

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

Tendulker might not be the best batsmen in the world now, he might not be the best batsmen in Indian team now, but he is still one of the best in Indian team (considering Sehwag a better test batsman). There was no need for Rahul Dravid to retire, and there is no need for Tendulker to retire until there are better test batsmen to take his place. Superstars tend to retire under pressure when they cease to be superstars and turn into just another star. I am glad Tendulker is breaking this tradition.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

Tendulkar should make a decision really soon or he will turn into another Jayasuriya, He has enough personal milestones than the rest of his team put together, its time to save face and call it a day. Really hope he dosn't have the 200th test in his head. And unless Dhoni produces something worthwhile with the bat tomorrow the selectors should look for replacements! The lack of good leadership to take over the test side is the only thing saving his place right now. Pujara looks good but compared to 'the wall' he is a mere brick. Dravid and VVS who held that middle order together is gone, and it shows. India is in transition and its only going to get worse unless some strong decisions are made and the youngsters step in and make it count.

ps: watching star cricket on mute Sivaramakrishnan is like chalk scratching on a blackboard. Hey its you guys who refused DRS not England so stop whining!

Posted by ste13 on (December 14, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

In order to bring more balance to the play, India should be allowed to have 15 batsmen per innings. Possibly, they should also bat on a different wicket than the opponent.

Posted by Secunderabadi on (December 14, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

Our teams only hope now rests in the hands of Ashwin and Jadeja as the current pair of Kohli and Dhoni are useless. The current middle order(Sachin, Kohli, Dhoni, 1/4Jadeja) barring Sachin (and he has become too weak) do not know how to bat in a Test cricket environment. Indian team has a longer tail this test and their tail wags better than the middle order. ON THE LIGHTER SIDE -Indian cricket team is like a tiger who has not eaten for a long time. A roaring head (Jo garjathe hain woh barasthe nahin) with an empty stomach but has a tail that is almost useless in what they are supposed to do but wags like a dog to attract some attention. I do not now expect the team to get past 175.

Posted by KameshRao on (December 14, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

Good factual reporting... A lot better than the tripe suggesting a grand conspiracy, we got from David and George yesterday. England playing well and unless India play out of their skins can't see how they can salvage this series.

Posted by SnowSnake on (December 14, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

India gets this performance after removing Zhaeer and Harbajjan. India is a pretty bad team now. They should replace everyone and begin from scratch. In fact, they should take a break from test cricket for 2 or more years because you cannot change the entire test team and start performing immediately.

Posted by Hareesh72 on (December 14, 2012, 14:45 GMT)

Really pathetic display of cricket from India. Not even one from the famed Indian batting line up could display the temperament demonstrated by an English debutante. We all expected India to face this problem after the recent retirement of two of their greats, but not in India, that too not so soon.

Posted by nickcarter80 on (December 14, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

Dear Indian fans, by now you might have lost for words. We know it's a shame that there is not anything good to talk about this Indian team. So now all you can do the other thing most of you are very good at. Please go and criticize the Sri Lankan team. They are doing lot better than what India did in Australia though. But I'm sure you can find something to criticize. :-)

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (December 14, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

Statchin played a nothing shot. He was neither back nor fully forward. It was hilarious and, he, an eyesore. He was all tangled. Please drop him from the next series, as he doesn't seem to know when to hang up his boots. India shouldn't be held hostage for his low IQ and thirst for money. If he loves cricket, let him go to Ranjis, score runs in the bucket loads and come back. Let him do that if he still enjoys cricket. It's just that India is not enjoying his cricket. Pathetic. BTW, where are Statchin fan boys now, who were beating their chests that he was *back* with that scratchy 70? Crawled under the woodworks, in all probability! No surprises. This habbit of myopic, insular hero-worship has to go. Shame!

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 14, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

All we can do is get ready to congratulate our Eng friends yet again.Eng are by far better test side than us at the moment.Kohl defended same ball with ease which took wicket of Sehwag and Sachin,that sums up what is the condition of Indian test team is.

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 14, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

All we can do is get ready to congratulate our Eng friends yet again.Eng are by far better test side than us at the moment.Kohl defended same ball with ease which took wicket of Sehwag and Sachin,that sums up what is the condition of Indian test team is.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 14, 2012, 14:39 GMT)

Well now we've seen Sehwag bat I think 330 is an above par score, hopefully the comments of Anderson only being able to play in English conditions have been shown to be what they are...hogwash (Tendulkar bagged most times of any test bowler). The game is not won but England are in a much better position and India have to bat last on this 'nothing wrong with it' pitch. India still have batting left though so I repeat the test is not won. It is great to see Root playing so confidently with him Bairstow, Taylor showing great ability/application and great young bowlers coming through the future is indeed promising. I agree with previous posts though that no series in the SC for next 3 years is awful planning, continuity of varied venues is a must to ensure a well rounded set of skills. p.s. GerardLk is not an England fan (as he states) so why are people using his comments as an excuse to post anti-English vitriol?

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Common billion India, can't beat a team in which Cricket isn't their most popular sport and 50 million in your own ground.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:32 GMT)

@Solid_Snake: lolz Pujara I think is a bit too overrated just llike Kohli only okay at Asian wickets but abroad clueless.

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 14, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

India are still continue to use their old players shows that their youth are not good enough. Sehweg and Sachin fielding are costing India dearly my my...

Posted by InnocentGuy on (December 14, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

I can't believe that India wasted an opportunity like this to put England in its place. Just laziness. And now the English will behave like their team is the best in the worl, which they are sooo not.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 14, 2012, 14:28 GMT)

ICC obvioulsy applying double standards. Englsh team should be banned for over appealing and damaging the spirit of cricket. Another wicket of pujara gifted to England. Sachin was bowled of a no ball

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:26 GMT)

My request to BCCI please be brave now and tell Sachin to hang up his boot, otherwise even Aussies will win the series early next year. See how australian cricket has made great players to hang up their boots to make way for fresh legs. I hope after today's performance you are convinced Sachin's career is over. If you take this step, the country will feel proud of you and wont critise for ousting Sachin. Of same era Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman and Kumble have been sensible, if Sachin is not you have to do tell him. We dont want to loose the home series again against Aussies. Please...

Posted by RazorMach on (December 14, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

India needs someone like a Kapil Dev to get them out of this mess and turn the tables. Someone with heart! Meanwhile, here is a clear message to the BCCI - pack up and go home, else you will destroy Cricket in India. Also, Mr. Tendulkar, it is time to stop blocking the way for the many talented replacements that are available among 1 billion people. Rotation policy allows players to save face! It's time to rotate players in the Indian team, no exceptions, all players (and the captain) included. We need more Amarnaths and more outspoken groundsmen/curators! Speaking of groundsmen (and pitches) I wonder who Nagpur's curator was. He is the antithesis of the one at Calcutta.

Posted by 6sir on (December 14, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

Why on earth Tedulkar is playing? Does he need money? no He has plenty Does he play for records? no he has many records which will never be broken. Then why he plays? He plays to be humiliated and tossed out of the Indian team with disgrace. No honourable exit for him.

Posted by Urumpirai on (December 14, 2012, 14:23 GMT)

in this pitch Roots debut 73 is equel to a debut doble hundred on normal test cricket pitch. wel done Root.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:22 GMT)

87-4, reality is England far better team than India at this very moment. they r well prepared & hands up to cook's 11. BCCI needs to do several things for country * sack Duncan Fletcher ASAP. * Change test captaincy. * ask sachin to step down from his precious place * no place for dhoni in playing xi. * its worth to try new comers n then if you ll loss, it makes a sense

more of all kick out politicians from BCCI. n yea @ dhoni.. bro leave cricket and contest for election of India in 2014.

Posted by omairhr on (December 14, 2012, 14:22 GMT)

@freo75, they have. Its called UDRS.

Posted by t20-2007 on (December 14, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

I dont want to put it....but India do need a 3-1 drubbing to clean up the mess in test team

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (December 14, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

Thankyou ENG for showing us where we belong. As fans we already knew this but this is a slap on the face to the money making machine called BCCI. God like status, heroes blah blah ...all coming crashing down to Earth, where they belong. Look at the work ethics of this ENG team, we need to take a page or two from them. I am not blaming this team but I am blaming the domestic setup that we have in our country that identifies and pushes through talent to play at the international level. The bowling is below a club level bowling. Pujara scores 2 centuries, suddenly he becomes the next Dravid. Kohli the arrogant cricketer, if nly he lets his bat do the talking than run his mouth he will be scoring more runs. Drop Sehwag, Gambhir. I hope we lose this match and obviously the series as I want a major shakeup, not at the player level, but at the management level. Make Kumble the head of BCCI, Dravid head of selection committee, Ganguly Indias coach.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

Dhoni has got it all wrong time and again... this time when he needed a swing bowler , he fielded 4 spinners... this is strange. He got all accolades for his earliers achievements and an extended stint as a captain [ 3rd Series] to get things better. It's high time , BCCI look beyond IPL and Dhoni to make things better for Indian Cricket.

Posted by ahassan on (December 14, 2012, 14:17 GMT)

To freo75. A system exists that reduces umpire errors quite effectively but India does not like it. If someone from India complains about it then it is a case of crying over spilt milk. This test is not over as yet and India can make a comeback and this is the beauty of Test cricket unlike ODI and T20 cricket.

Posted by imrankhan76uk on (December 14, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

@GerrardLK .... pretty aggressive predictions.... I doubt ining defeat is possible against 330 but if that happens, ooooooh boy it will be historical

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:11 GMT)

The game is not over, triple centurian sir jadeja yet to come:)

Posted by azahid09 on (December 14, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

this is now high time for India to choose between IPL and Test cricket, else much more humiliation is awaiting them!!!

Posted by priceless1 on (December 14, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

@freo75 ever heard about UDR? ( which you Indians always oppose )

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 14:07 GMT)

@Kashif Zia->Lol..India gonna lose it again..I doubt if they would save themselves from follow on :P

Posted by Selassie-I on (December 14, 2012, 14:07 GMT)

@ Posted by MujahidAliMd on (December 14 2012, 09:25 AM GMT) I think this is looking increasingly unlikley.

Posted by Silverbails on (December 14, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

UNLESS India bat and bowl much, much better during the second day and the remaining 3 days, then it's ONLY going to be a 3 - 1 result in England's favour!! This has been THE MOST disheartening series from an Indian point of view for many, many years. There's no-one to 'save' them, either in the batting or bowling depts!! It's really sad to see how far the Indian Test Team has now plummeted...soon, they'll ONLY be able to beat Bangladesh and Zimbabwe AT HOME...really sad and depressing...

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

another dismay performance from front line batsmen,look like they forgot how to bat in test matches, on the other hand full credits to English they fought under KP, Prior, Trott,Root and last but not the least Swann, They sang Swan song for team india

Posted by SamRoy on (December 14, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

Pujara gets run out or gets poor decisions. The other good batsman who bats in top 6, Kohli, is out of form. With Tendulkar batting like a club cricketer 2 down means 3 down.

Posted by SixoverSlips on (December 14, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

Nationalistic jingoism and over-exaggeration form McGlashan as usual. Pujara did not edge it and it came off the forearm. But look at him glorify how great that catch was. Seriously? It was NOT A CATCH. Was Tendulkar's dismissal that bad? The ball kept very low. All credit to Anderson, but there is no reason to mock Tendulkar here. Just one more innings? We will see.

"How Dhoni must be wishing he had someone as good as Anderson!" Can anyone be more lost within himself? I remember times when Anderson was kicked out of the team and could not even find a place as fourth seamer for a long time. That was when Zaheer Khan was the best bowler from both teams in England conditions.

Posted by googly1010 on (December 14, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

sehwag should be dropped. he may have scored a century in the first test, but he has failed in the rest. he should not play test cricket because he does not know how to defend. one day and t20 are better for him. why can't they try murali vijay or rahane in his place?

Posted by haq33 on (December 14, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

@freo75.....well done sir! shot of the day!

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 14, 2012, 13:57 GMT)

I just read an article regarding todays play on "Times of India" ..... OMG sweet Jesus, Indians just cant stand how Tendulkar is holding on, and majority of the post say they want him out ASAP along with Shewag and Dhoni ...... what happened to his GOD like status. You must see the names he is called on most of those posts, I am lost for words!!!???

Tendulkar should have retired about 2 years whilst he was at the top of his game. This why Dravid and Ganguly will be respected more than Tendulkar!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

@ bikas rd , plz don't refer our ( Pak teams ) achievements to hide your failures , donor mention 0- 3 again , thank you ,and 0-3 is not as humiliating as 2 times 0-4 and then 1-3 at home overall 1- 6 , India is just not good enough Period ,

Posted by landl47 on (December 14, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

A great effort from Prior, Root and Swann to lift England from 139-5 to 330. Yes, it was slow, but it was obvious to everybody (except Solid_Snake) that this was a pitch on which slow scoring was inevitable. By keeping India in the field for 4 1/2 sessions England has given itself the best chance of winning. India's own run rate (87 off 41 overs) is just as slow- are India playing for a draw, S_S? Anderson has got better and better as the series has gone on. Tomorrow is going to be a real struggle for India as the ball starts to reverse swing and Swann and Panesar start to turn it.

For Indian fans who (rightly) object to GerrardLK, I should point out that he's not English. No English person would write 'to put their fans in shatters', it's not a phrase anyone from England would use. He says he's neutral- from elsewhere in the subcontinent, I would guess.

Posted by GRAMMY_SACHIN on (December 14, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

RIP Indian Cricket !! One of the saddest days for Indian Cricket when England Thrash India 3-1 at our backyard probably on 16th Dec'12. I strongly feel that Dhoni & Sachin have played their last Test Match of their career. Sorry Master. You got to go now and i am sure you are working on the press conference timings (repeat of Mike Gatting like retirement). I am in tears to realise that this is going to be Master's last test. I am very sad !!

Posted by Trickstar on (December 14, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

LOL look at how quickly the Indians are to disrespect England just because the dude at the bottom GerrardLK, who's not even an England fan leaves a comment, the kind of comment that was said by hundreds of Indian fans before the series.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 14, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

I have to admit Indians are the most arrogant people, and I am an Indian. In spite of the thrashing we got in Australia and England, arrogant Indian fans kept talking about 2 world class batsmen - Sehwag and Tendulkar. Where are they now?? In fact they never show up when India needs them most. It's time to get rid of Tendulkar and Sehwag, period. No more excuses.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Well another poor, poor display from the Indian's. Something has to give..MS Dhoni has to go along with Sehwag, Tendulkat and Gambhir or else this is the beginning of the end for the Indian so called Test Team. The last 12 test's Indians have lost 10 and this could be 11. Are the Indian selectors blind or just plain ignorant. This is a catastrophe for them and they should be ashamed. If no action is taken then no-one will want to play Test Cricket with India as it will always be a one sided affair. Then again maybe that is the Indian selectors plan....to get thrown out of the Tests so they can fill their pockets with IPL and T20 cricket riches!!! COME ON ENGLAND..Make it 3-1

Posted by balajit on (December 14, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Out of form players continue to fail India. 3 ordinary shots & 1 umpiring error makes it another day where England is on top. Unless India reach England's score or close to it, it will be 3-1 England.

God Save Indian Cricket!

Posted by nogginthenog on (December 14, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

@Jose Puliampatta: 'His position in the England team will take roots. Not like, many other guys who were planted, withered away, uprooted, and discarded.'

:) :) :) Keep the root-puns coming, Jose!

I am trying to think of one concerning the amount of fertiliser generated by KP...

Posted by handyandy6666uk on (December 14, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

@TheBengalTiger..."Has there ever been a case for banning a cricket team as much as there is for banning England? the way they behave on the pitch is sickening. The majority of their team isn't even English"...could you please elaborate on that statement please.

Posted by Mian.Invader on (December 14, 2012, 13:44 GMT)

@GerrardLK: even if we pakistani people sometimes feel good for indian team to lose and the same indians feel for us, but still we respect each other, i think you just have forgotten about your past record, india has always dominated england, i still remember that epic century by Kumble against england. a one year bad patch doesn't make india a bad team and their fans foolish. i always had admired indian batsmen, they have produced gems every now and then, what about you people? stop criticising indian fans, just follow your team and stop posting such nonsense.

Posted by WishIndiaImprove on (December 14, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

Don't worry guys. Ravindra will make another 300 for India..Ha..ha..ha.. I wish India Improve. However they can improve only if they come to earth. They are all flying in their dreams. They can still win this match if they dedicate and bat

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar need to go...not sure what the selectors are waiting for...maybe a sign from heaven???

Posted by JG2704 on (December 14, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

@krvij on (December 14 2012, 07:58 AM GMT)/senthil25 on (December 14 2012, 08:54 AM GMT) Must agree with you in that there's no need for trash talking but having said that there were a multitude of unbecoming comments about how India were going to thrash/trash etc England 4-0 pre series and while many have predictably disappeared you don't have to look too hard to find that some remain

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

Defeat become a fashion of Indian Cricket these days...

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 14, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

@gsingh7 Brave words indeed at 87-4, an out of form batsman at the crease and not too much batting to come.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:38 GMT)

What i feel is almost all the indian fans get hurt from the way indians play (im also get hurt from the poor captaincy and reckless batting by experience players) but what to do this is the way it goes , at least now these fans should understand the game well and stop publishing disgraceful comments about other playing nations when they not playing well . Just think twice why other fans hate so much indian fans (not indian cricket)

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (December 14, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

India should stop playing test cricket for atleast a year and figure out how to bat and bowl..Same sad story different day for India since winning world cup 2011

Posted by Valavan on (December 14, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

Reply to @gsingh7 on (December 14 2012, 09:12 AM GMT), haha what a man you are? India scoring 450, i am really sorry that India disappointing their fans, mate its 87/4, India's main task to score close to 250 if any chance of drawing this game, Cant you see india scoring at 2.12, most of England bashers howling how England scored at 2 an over. If anyone brings bad decision of Pujara, Pujara decision evens out with Cook decision yesterday, blame yourself for not using DRS. England just dictating India how its done in India. Believe me Sehwag/Pujara tamed, India will take straight route to DEFEAT. cricinfo please publish

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

There are profound issues with Indian batting skills against spin. In the Indian team *no one uses their feet and no one sweeps* (or not with proper technique anyway). English bowlers are having an easy time. I'm not saying they're not bowling well, but Ganguly would have used his feet, and Dravid / Laxman would have swept the spinners out of their comfort zone. Those skills have not been replaced. Even though Kohli / Gambhir/ Pujara are good batsmen, all England have to do is crowd the V and bowl length. In fact S.Af and Aus would be well advised to play two spinners against India even in home series. The era of "Indian batsmen are good players of spin" is well and truly over.

Posted by IndCricFan2013 on (December 14, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

I hear India own the Blind T20 world Cup! Congrats to them! Do you think Indian batters should play blind folded ( and possibly take a lesson from their blind counterparts) to revive their fortunes?

Posted by AsherCA on (December 14, 2012, 13:33 GMT)

After England win this test series, I think Sachin Tendulkar should get the "man of the series" award. His performance as a batsman in one word has been useless. The guy has refused to retire, claiming that he has more cricket in him. Since the 2011 World Cup, all that Sachin has done is - win an Asia Cup final slot for Bangladesh with unacceptably slow batting....and then produce no batting performance of value. Australia & England have battered India 4-0 with the advantage of 11 performers Vs 10 from India. NZ & WI could not take advantage of Sachin's non-performance - 10 Indians were able to win against them, but England are are making India pay for carrying passenger Sachin. India look like losing this series 3-1 thanks to BCCI not dropping useless Sachin on performance grounds & Sachin refusing to retire, abusing the respect that Indians had for him. Sachin has refused to retire - BCCI should be brave & drop him now.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 14, 2012, 13:33 GMT)

So many pigeons coming home to roost! India has plotted, schemed, ensured that pitches are doctored to their liking, picked spinners by the cartload, won three tosses out of four, been unfriendly to the UK media, vetoed DRS (on the basis that it would work to India's benefit overall - why else?) & now come the pigeons, back to the loft! For all the smoke, a few mirrors & endless mind-games, the game looks up. The final chapter or two of this series has yet to be written, but it is obvious to all that England, after the Learning Test in Ahmedabad, has regrouped brilliantly. The team selection is spot on; the fielding is outstanding (light years ahead of India's, bar Kohli & Jadeja); Jimmy's at the top of his game on this doped surface. Swanny & Monty are better, meaner & more potent spinners than India's; there's more bottle, more professionalism with Eng. Lots of players are making their contributions in their moments. The job's nearly done. Eng must stay focussed: who says they won't?

Posted by RSBali on (December 14, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

Mr Srinavan should resign he has a conflict of interest and is ruining the Indian cricket.

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (December 14, 2012, 13:29 GMT)

@GerrardLK, you have proved to be true/typical ENG fan???

Posted by JG2704 on (December 14, 2012, 13:29 GMT)

@TheBengalTiger on (December 14 2012, 08:30 AM GMT) I'd prefer forums to ban the cheerleader fans who constantly write non constructive trash on their threads before anyone bans any players from any team. You know the type I'm on about? By the way what is this sickening behaviour you're on about?

Posted by shyambhau on (December 14, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

India looks like scoring at most 250-280. Dhoni will reach his forties and maybe kohili will last atleast one hour next morning. Ashwin and piyushm will have a small partnership, maybe. A lead of 50-8o runs, and then england will set target in excess of 300. India looses by atleast 100 runs. Great work dhoni. good decisions. Iam wondering why you also didnt call for help from bedi and kumble and vishwanath and gavaskar and vengsarkar and manjrekar, they might have given you better results. They deserve to win. Good cricket poms. Can anyone get me the stumps and bails from the ground. We need ashes once more around.

Posted by AjitDJ on (December 14, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

England didn't beat India at the game of cricket. They beat India in the game of patience!

Posted by venkatesh018 on (December 14, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

Is this the "penultimate" Test innings by the master? Increasingly looks so.

Posted by arebee on (December 14, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

@Front-Foot-Lunge. Anderson is a good bowler but nothing more. Taking wickets against the worst Indian batting lineup in 20 years is no huge achievement. For a true reflection on the ability of Anderson, look at his career statistics, much clearer indicator. Would not even make the current S.A side

Posted by ElvisKing on (December 14, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

India on course to make the right decision by the and of the 3 rd. Day....Change of the Guards at the top! Lucky it should happen now than later during Aussie Tour! Dhoni has to learn not to make silly comments, we play better with our backs to the wall, have not we seen that from last years tours of England and Australia how well they played!

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 14, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

anderson apart , english men wud be thrashed on this pitch by indian batsmen, even ashwin scored century here, looking forward to sir r jadega batting and rearguard action by pc(underrated all rounder), dhoni can score hundred here to save his place and maintain india's proud record of being home track bullies

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Thats Great English Team We love

Posted by Doosra_007 on (December 14, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

So what's happen to my dearest indian friends?World best flat track bullies can not play even home condition. So what are the excuses????we like to see..........

Posted by riprock on (December 14, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

That last line of the article is interesting. As much as he'd love a Jimmy Anderson in his side..it's Msd..he may prolly not even mind four Jadejas, two Ashwins and five Rainas as his bowlers. His achievements as captain have undoubtedly been monumental but he can do himself and Indian cricket a generous favour by stepping down to groom another captain and enable the entry of a solid keeper-batsman in the Test side. Nothing lasts forever.The fading magic in his one-dimensional strategies and narrow-minded approach have so far given him and his teams..tremendous success and adequate trophies..but irrespective of this game's result, it may be best for him to quit Tests and captaincy for the team's sake and that way also let his fans cherish the great victories more than trying to erase the heartbreak of embarrassing defeats home and away. Sourav Ganguly's analysis and remarks, sometimes sarcastic..throughout India's struggles since last year have indeed been fascinating to watch! haha

Posted by Raj1969 on (December 14, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

Do not worry Indian fans still a chance 2 win the match in 2nd innings raj""""""

Posted by AusieBangaleeShameem on (December 14, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

NOW India MUST start playing test matches against Bangladesh (sorry to tell the truth but BD will win most probably) and Zimbabwe ONLY. Getting Shewag's wicket is "MUCH EASIER" than Abul's (Bangladesh number 10 test batsman) one now-a-days for sure!!!

Posted by kitten on (December 14, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

I don't know how many millions of times from millions of Indian supporters, all crying for Tendulkar's exit. It is about time, that he called it 'time', and so should Sehwag, who should be given a 'rest'. Rahane, and maybe Tiwari, or even Vijay, or Badrinath should be given a chance. They would most certainly fare better than these two jokers, Tendi, and Sehwag. They are past it, and the selectors should be firm and take this decision in the interest of India, and it's ardent supporters. What a shame it is to see such a great cricketer as Sachin reduced to such a state. He is worse than a club cricketer. He made the biggest mistake of his life for not retiring after the WC that India won. He could have gone out in glory, whereas now, he will either get booted out, or leave very shamefaced. In a way it will be a good idea if India gets beaten, and then maybe the cleaning up process can begin. For Indian cricket, let's hope it does.

Posted by RameshRayaprolu on (December 14, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

This is cool...ENG going to win this match more easily than the previous 2. Looking at how the GREATEST INDIAN BATSMEN are playing, I predict INDIA will be bowled out for about 150 on 1st and less than that in the 2nd..

I never expected such a poor test series at home! I know Indian team is weak, but I think they have good batsmen who can play at home soil. They should have atleast tried for no-result.

I cannot say ENG has played superbly to clinch the series, but INDIA had let themselves down to allow ENG dominate.

As I quoted many times earlier, IND must be revoked from playing tests for some time. There are no players in the team who are eligible to play test match cricket. I dont think they are even eligible to play tests with low rated teams such as Bangladesh!

I can understand how Rahul, VVS, Dada and Jumbo would be feeling about this team now. They raised Indian test cricket to no #1 position, and within 1 year, MSD managed to let all that fame vanish so easily..aah :( !!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

Another day of true test cricket, to all those who criticised England's tactics with accusations of a go slow deliberately playing for a draw must note India is also struggling to get the ball away and their run rate is currently slower than England. Maybe the pitch, maybe scoreboard pressure but India hasn't really come out of the traps.

Posted by JustOUT on (December 14, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

Surprised to see very less indian fans in the forum.. I think they are hiding, as their team is getting beaten left, right and center.. haha. In this range, India does not deserve to be in test rankings and will be mostly above bangla and below SL. Either they should abolish IPL to shine in test cricket or they should give up test cricket. After Dravid, Ganguly, Sachin & Laxman, may be sehwag and gambhir.. India doesn't hv any player capable of playing test level overseas. And watching dhoni playing those ugly test cricket shots is even more insult to test cricket..

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:53 GMT)

Haha! Poor and ordinary Shewag again!!! Why he criticize others when he himself is nothing but a shame??? Lion on their own ground but now it also doesn't work!!!

Posted by bdfighter1 on (December 14, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

India should be dropped from the test arena as soon as possible. and they should play more and more games with the associates before facing quality teams. coz they r the worst cricket team at present in all three formats of the game according to their performance. Forget the rating.

Posted by samya1980 on (December 14, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

The HIGHs dhoni achieved by winning 2 world cups and being no1 test team, the equal LOWs he is getting back now. 8 consecutive loss, a home series loss against the worst spin playing nation. Where is the midus touch. The circle is complete. Thank god zimbabwe not coming for next series.

Posted by PerfectTen on (December 14, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

Being an admirer of Sehwag and Tendulkar for long, its really painful to see their end to international careers turning off-color. This is where most of the Indian heroes lose out. They don't quit at the top. Atleast Dravid had a great England tour before he hung up. If the stars are not capable of taking the right decisions at the right time, it's upto the Board and Selectors to approach them for everyone's good. It's ok to lose the series experimenting with young talents for future rather than sticking to outdated superstars.

Posted by mthi4life on (December 14, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

I know a lot of fans do not want to hear this buy SRT must hang up his bat period,Kallis is averaging 63.23 in the last 30 innings while SRT has an average of 31.76,we would understand if he was a young batsman,but he is close to 40 yrs old and his best is behind him.I would love to see him in South Africa, but that would mean India would be travelling with an weak batting line up.

Posted by sundersingh on (December 14, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

MSD now Show Ur character...... I think match is in the hands of England they can either win it highly or draw to show some mercy on the home team.....

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

When will India learn that it's not possible to compensate for a lack of skills, temperament and application by manipulating the pitch? A good player can score runs or take wickets on any pitch while a great team can make a fist of it even if the playing conditions suit the opposition. All it takes is preparation and application. Instead of gloating over England's difficulties last winter, they should have made certain that THEY were the masters of Indian conditions. Dhoni's call for spinning pitches should have been made a year ago and BCCI should have made certain that most - but not all! -Indian pitches conformed to that demand well in advance so that their players were thoroughly familiar with and had mastered playing on them.

Posted by PeterMbangala on (December 14, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

@ Solid_Snake: just to disprove your comment that England are playing for a draw: 1) England scored at 2.26 runs per over compared to india's current 2.12 2) why would England play for a draw when this Indian team are there for the taking. Total nonsense.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

to gerrardLK-agree to disagree man...you have no right to judge indian player's ability to play test cricket...and indian fans are the ones to worship cricket...so please it will be better if you let the players do their job and keep your mouth shut....

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 14, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

I tell u, i just love what i saw of Joe Root, so young making his debut in humid hostile enemy territory and playing as if he has played test cricket for 10 years, cant wait to see how he develops in the next few years.

Ind looks dead n berried unless they can somehow recover tomorrow, Ind should never have gone with just 1 seamer and if they lose, this could very well be the point!!!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

not talent, ability or the desire to put up a fight. that's what indian cricket is all about. indians can only do well against minnows on slow wickets. they made a career out of scoring runs on such pitches.

Posted by Dan5 on (December 14, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

why are 97 overs being bowled daily????? why

Posted by BravoBravo on (December 14, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Gavaskar made a comment before begining of the ENG vs IND series- "If IND wins first test, ENG will be whitewashed". Now I understand what he was meant by that, that by winning first test IND will avoid being whitewashed by ENG. It is very obvious that IND batting is total failure for decades. However, IND fans and media put the blame on bowling unit. And IND unanimously asking for Dhoni's head. A captain is as good as his team. But who cares these IND batsmen will be playing soon in IPL for their's and ignorant fans' sadistic pleasure . Go ENG, Go For the Kill, inning defeat looks a possibility, DO IT. @Alexk400- AMEN to that.

Posted by ravikb on (December 14, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

I foresee this is the end of Tendulkar, Dhoni, Sehwag and Gambhir for sure.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

job well done by the poms. india getting a thumping and being shown their true place in world cricket. ordinary and overrated.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

Loss of middle stump should lead to dismissal from the test side unless you score a 100. Oh Sachin, why o why are you carrying on? Someone please tell him it's well past the right time...wrap up now. He has had a great career, one of the longest ever. But it's over now. Sehwag, too, needs a break.

Posted by haq33 on (December 14, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

Anderson tormenting India with Waqar-style inswingers. Sehwag playing him like a tailender. Christmas seems to have come early.

Posted by 777aditya on (December 14, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

@ yoogi - in your words, "having four pacers will give the captain the option of continous pressure with pace" - you mean India should play six bowlers?! Even if we do, where will you find FOUR INTERNATIONAL QUALITY PACE BOWLERS in India?! At the moment, all India needs to do is lose, which will mean massive changes in the team (similar to when Dhoni became ODI captain) and Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly where phased away. It needs to happen in this test team now. This test team should really stop 'testing' our patience!

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 14, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

I have been telling this for years - India's biggest problem is batting. We have a lot of Flat Track bullies who don't know how to play swing or spin. DROP Sehwag and Tendulkar NOW

Posted by brusselslion on (December 14, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Well played young Joe and 'old' Jimmy. England one good day (session?) away from the series win. C'mon.

Posted by bumsonseats on (December 14, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

as a red rose supporter would just like to say how well JA has bowled. we had Australian writers saying in 10/11 that he could not bowl in oz we had indian supporters saying he was ok in the uk but rubbish in india. well i have news for you hes bowled better, as now hes reversing the bowl big time. and as an add on before we get the indian supporters. you did not want the DRS, look when its used well the types of decision that it gets rid of. both cook amd pujara would have been not out on referal. if anything happens on this tour i would have thought the bcci would have a re think on the DRS. you still would not have won though

Posted by vikicork on (December 14, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

Mohinder Amarnath claimed in a recent interview that there was a unanimous decision to sack Dhoni as captain after the Australia tour by all 5 selectors which was overruled by N Srinivasan. He goes on to say that BCCI should not be interfering in selection policy I think we now know why Amarnath is not the chief selector and why Dhoni continues to be captain.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

Root cause for MSD losing the test captaincy ( hopefully in the near future) is not Joe Root (from Boyce's Country & County). MSD had planted the seeds long ago, which sprouted and showed that it can develop roots to thrive only for short formats. It is like seasonal flowering plant, not a perennial ( a 'barah- maasi' as they say in Hindi)!.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Really Team india needs some young blood, situation here is ridiculous. our older ones are not performing and are not that open-hearted to give others the chance, the selectors are boneless to say the least. And above all the mad fan following of players like sachin and sehwag is killing the team spirit

Posted by lukecannon on (December 14, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

Please don't throw it away folks. Must get Kohli out before he settles in. The guy's getting low scores the whole series and i have a hunch he's going to make this innings count. Must knock him over the first thing tomorrow. 3-1 ENgland for the taking.

Posted by yorkslanka on (December 14, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

England have gone a huge step towards a deserved series win with this performance. Congrats and well done...as a Sri Lankan Yorkshireman (?)I am really pleased to see root and bres doing well also...root will be pushing bell for his place I think in future...

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

How I wish, Rahane was playing, instead of Sachin, in this test! Irrespective of the results, there would have been something for India, for the future. Who knows, Rahane might have been India's Root in this match. At least he has the talent. Like Root, he can be an opener , or play in ANY position. What a miss!

Posted by BlastFromThePast on (December 14, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

Deja Vu, all over. Cannot really comprehend the tactics of the Indian team, their approach is all the more disappointing. Well, I guess it's all over now unless Dhoni and the others to follow can pull something off, but more likely moving towards a 3-1 series triumph for an English side that has only got better with each passing moment during their stay.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

Sehwag (VS) & Tendulkar (SRT), Today:

Similarities: 1.Both couldn't read the lines. VS played inside the line. SRT played outside the line. Either way, quite consistent in recent times -- missing the line! 2. Both were almost rooted inside the crease. Hardly any movement from the legs. Leaden!

Dissimilarities: 1. VS need to be dropped. For a series or two. Take back if he improves his play, on several dimensions. And discard his casual attitude.

2. SRT should announce his retirement, immediately. So, the English players can give him a guard of honour, when he come to bat a second time in this match. SRT, please give that privilege.

Posted by brusselslion on (December 14, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

As many Indian posters have reminded us: Jimmy can't bowl in the sub-continent.

Posted by DINESH9945 on (December 14, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

Surely England will win this series by 3-1.This series will pave way for new Test Captain. The Indian spinners have forgot to bowl in the last three matches

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

As far as i remember Sachin scored his last test century in early 2011 against saf, in 2012 he only have two 50+ scores, 3rd highest score is 27! When will this man retire?

Posted by Tama_Pokai66 on (December 14, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

England is making some spicy Indian dishes eh. Nice. Flat pitch Indians struggling at home, who would have thunk it :) India; can't bat, bowl, field or play the game, despite having 1.2 billion people playing a single sport. nice. Well done to Cook. 3-1.

Posted by Stephen_Smith on (December 14, 2012, 11:59 GMT)

Great day for England so far. They have shown the Ordinary Indians how to play test Cricket in their own backyard. Indian fans, go and find some corner to hide if you have any shame. Your team is not better than a club side.

Posted by lukecannon on (December 14, 2012, 11:59 GMT)

Well played Root. That was a great knock on debut. Anderson does it again. Hope Monty and Swann will roll up India before lunch tomorrow. Tendulkar is pathetic. Ponting , Dravid , Laxman and even Jayasuriya retired. Why is this so called god of cricket is not quitting? I watched the NZ series and I knew he's finished. There's only one way for India to get out of this mess. PLAY IPL .lol

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

I think Sahwag and tendulkar should sacrifice for youngsters. because of ill-performance from them, even the Kohli and Pujara are suffering. India should play Rehane and rohit sharma for them. Moreover Chawla and Jadeja are extra, one from them can be eliminated especially when Ashwin is performing well with bat.

Posted by 100_rabh on (December 14, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

@GerradLK...perhaps i agree with your suggested scoreline 3-1 but comments like 'India's inability to play test cricket' and 'foolish India fans' make be believe that you lost your good sense after the first two lines! The BCCI is listening and watching and sooner they will make sure that test cricket is made extinct from all over the world, just not India only.

Posted by landsite on (December 14, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

So all the talk about how bad the wicket was could just have been a "smoke screen" in case England lose,330 runs wit Swann scoring a 50.Why does England and the English complain so much,even when things are going their way,I suppose its their character.It would be nice if India get to within 50 or 60 runs of their total and then bowl them out to set up a nice finish.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Where is it? "Andrew McGlashan has written today's obituary of Tendulkar's career". In the running commentary, I read this. Was looking forward to it. Then to my dismay, I found, the last four words were crossed out. How cruel? Not to the great man! But to millions of his erstwhile admirers who are eagerly looking forward to his graceful exit.

Posted by pr3m on (December 14, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

So Anderson is the best bowler in the world and Sachin and Sehwag can be outbatted by Swann and Root. Got it.

Also, India's spin is hopeless, their fielding useless, and batting pointless. Neither is the pitch isn't good enough for Test cricket.

I wish this weren't winter in England so we wouldn't have so many problems! Everything would be perfect.

Can't wait for you guys to go already. The whining has become a problem even on cricinfo! The series is yours, enjoy it.

Posted by Trickstar on (December 14, 2012, 11:55 GMT)

@Solid_Snake LOL you think England came out from the start to draw this test, I think you'll find that you couldn't be more wrong, they played the pitch perfectly and got to a very good 330 and then smashed out India's comedy top order out. It makes it all the more hilarious after all the mouthing off Indian fans were doing yesterday, how Sehwag would show England how to bat on this pitch and India would score 500 on it, cringe. Got to say I've watched Root for a few years for Yorkshire and he's improved his batting against spin out of sight. Thorpe and the Yorkshire coaches have done an excellent job in developing his game, particularly his front foot and back foot play, it's all so assured nowadays. Anderson again was epic & anyone that says this bloke can't bowl on sub continent pitches is backward, he's got it all, pace, swing with the new ball and reverse with the old. Swann, his batting the past couple of years has been disappointing, he showed what he can do when he wants.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:52 GMT)

4-0 loss to England, 4-0 loss to Australia and now 3-1 loss in their own ground in total 11-1 against the big teams in the past year and half alone just shows that India are not a top team and not good enough to play against us. I think for now until you get your basics right face of with the bottom ranked teams I mean these stats speak for themselves and build well which your youngsters have a chance for once they're the future not the seniors which is seriously costing you.

Posted by o-bomb on (December 14, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

Having confidently predicted yesterday that India would score 500; I wouldn't mind knowing GRVJPR's thoughts on today's play. It still could happen of course, but then so could a visit from Captain Porky and his troupe of flying pigs. Also gsingh7 - do you have anything to say on what you've seen today?

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

India is heading towards another innings defeat. Yes, innings defeat. The arrogant BCCI, the selectors, the captain, and the team will get a rude awakening in a couple of days. Although it started a year ago, this series will be the final nail in the coffin of the careers of Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni and Gambhir. The Indians have been making one excuse after another. They were so arrogant that they did not even bother to change the batting order. Too bad, the India's humiliating test performances in the last year or so may also mean the end of the test format.

Posted by o-bomb on (December 14, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

Fantastic batting from Root and Swann today followed by fantastic bowling from Jimmy. England in charge here. Hopefully we'll bowl them out for 200 tomorrow and put the series beyond doubt.

Posted by Natraja on (December 14, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

Soa specialist bowler Piyush Chawla took 4 wickets and all rounder Jadeja 2wickets out of 10. Selection of these two particularly of Piyush Chawla was much criticized by knowledgeable Indian fans. Binender 123 is still criticizing selection of Piyush Chawla who is the most wicket taker in this innings. Funny..

Now if Tenulkar made 2 and Sehwag a 0 it is still Dhoni's fault. Sack Dhoni for sending sehwag to open and Tendulkar at number 4. If only he should have shown some imaginative captaincy to put sehwag at number 10 and Tendulkar at 11, these brilliant batsmen would still have been not out. Dhoni should be sacked immediately because as a captain he could not teach Gambhir how not to get your partners run out.

Poor captaincy indeed lol.... come on fans lets make Dhoni a scapegoat for the failure of great sehwag and god tendulkar. Sack Dhoni should be our chant. lets join the chorus.. ha ha ha

Posted by LillianThomson on (December 14, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

India needs a Chief Selector in the image of Aamir Sohail - perhaps Jimmy Amarnath - to dismantle this team and start again.

The only current players who should survive are Pujara, Kohli, Ishant, Ojha and Yadav. No other current Test player should survive a Night of the Long Knives.

You can then add the potential of Umukt Chand and Harmeet Singh and the experience of Irfan Pathan and you then have the core of a team.

But Gambhir, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Zaheer, Yuvraj, Jadeja, Zaheer and Ashwin would never play another Test.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

I dont think Solid Snake has been watching the game on TV. It look damn difficult to bat on this pitch. England were trying to lay some sort of foundation to get a decent total, not bat for the draw. I think the start of India's innings has shown there will be a result here.

Posted by big_al_81 on (December 14, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

Very good day for England today. What a terrific bowler Jimmy Anderson has become. Bresnan did OK too. Root did very, very well for a debut and how well did the selectors do to put him in for a pitch like this which needed another willing (and talented) grafter? But although their parts don't seem quite as important as some, you have to give huge credit to Swann and Prior who are just great all-round cricketers in their different ways. Both great team players too.

Posted by baskar_guha on (December 14, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

If India lose this match in a lopsided manner as it appears to be the case, there will be a lot of chop and change one will see. But I dont think I see the talent level in India right now, notably in bowling, to be a very good test side. Will take time I'm afraid to "rebuild" (which is India is aka find a prodigy or two by accident). In the meantime, they should make sure they do well in ODIs and T20s as that is more their cup of chai and let England try their darnest to beat South Africa which easily is the best test side in the world.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

Sachin, my cricket God....this is my humble request. kindly check last week's newspaper and see what Ponting had told about his form. Thats what we expect from greats like you.. Stop singing while you can still sing... And while you move out please ask your friend, Mr.Gambhir to follow you b'cose he is such a shame as an opener for India. Ask him to watch Dravid and Ganguly before he takes the willow again. So pls my cricket God... understand the feelings of and Indian cricket Fan.... because later we don't want to despise someone who was like God to us. Thank You.

Posted by ozind95 on (December 14, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

India deserves to lose this match and the series as this will teach the selectors of the worlds most overpaid and under-performing team management to getsome real talent by discarding the the has-beens

Posted by George_cricket on (December 14, 2012, 11:25 GMT)

one should not be sad to see the felling of four indian wickets.pujara and three tail enders are gone. during the second innings,hope, the captain would shuffle batting order for tendulkar at no 10 and sewag at no 11. pl dont make the mistale of bringing sewag to no 10

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

I think India should play minnows Zim and Ban and invite them because not only you're getting dominated at home but can't attract crowd for these bigger matches or what kind of excuses will be used this time? England should bowl them our with a 100 plus run lead and hopefully score another 250 which should defeat this ordinary Indian side with ease. I'm glad England actually went with 2 seamers instead of 1 because it seemed to have worked.

Posted by nthuq on (December 14, 2012, 11:22 GMT)

Excellent stuff from England. They've been softening India up nicely in recent times for us Aussies to come and have a good feed.

Posted by Nilesh_T on (December 14, 2012, 11:20 GMT)

80 something for 4 down..haha. great outcome and still lessons are not learnt. It will snow in Nagpur first before Sehwag will score "that" big one,Pujara looks like a flash-in-pan and no good, Gambhir playing selfish innings and SRT probably typing out his retirement speech. Complete shambles in this team,totally rudderless and no leadership. Every Indian fan is asking - " When is Duncan Fletcher catching the next flight home ? ". Give him the honour of shutting the lights out in the dressing room before leaving. Stop playing tests altogether and have 2 IPLs per year,that would put all discussions to rest. Go England, awesome display to beat the home bullies in their own backyard.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:18 GMT)

Captaincy is a very time relevant thing. Only exceptions have it in them to lead under all circumstances. Dhon isnt an exception. Its better he steps down. Now for who? ehhh ..

Posted by GRAMMY_SACHIN on (December 14, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

Master's penulti,ate innings is over. I am in tears to see him leave. Hope he makes his last innings a BIG one at Jamtha, Nagpur. God Bless Him & India. Happy Retirement Master. Can't imagine how Indian Cricket will be without you. Congratulations on a great career

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

I am breaking up with you Sachin Tendulkar, you never understands me ;-)

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

If the english pacers who are way better than sharma, can repeat his figures for this match, India will be 100-6 to pace bowling. That is almost a Win for England. On the other hand, having four pacers will give the captain the option of continous pressure with pace, the same cannot be said about spin bowling. Two can do the job and a part-timer like Yuvi or Jadeja is more than enough. one of the spinner is an extra here.

Posted by willsrustynuts on (December 14, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

Look at the Indian run rate. Poor team. The Indians have great stats but no scores!

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 14, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

James Anderson, the bowler any side in the world would love to have in their team, once again show his mastery on flat, sub-continent pitches. England yet again are way better than India. This is a test series that has shown the best of England.

Posted by salil247 on (December 14, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

Mr. Amarnath, where are your batsmen with technique? Or is your ire only reserved for Dhoni? You did suggest names for captaincy. What have they done, not just in the past one year, but for fairly longer than that? Diddly squat! That's what!

Posted by EnglishCricket on (December 14, 2012, 11:08 GMT)

Also why is Sachin still playing? he failed yet again feel so bad for these youngsters that are desperate to make their special mark. I dunno if he's going after his 200th test which he rightfully can but just saying Cricket is a team sport not an individual sport where you go onto making records.

Posted by indiabadri on (December 14, 2012, 11:06 GMT)

It seems that England want to play for a draw to win the series 2 - 1. They scored 330 runs by consuming 146 overs. But India is determined that they dont want a draw and want a result so that Englishmen can win the series 3 -1. And i am not able to understand why Tendulkar always misses a straight delivery and act like the ball kept low. Such a great cricketer should play all kinds of delivery. Come on selectors enough is enough.......bring in all those guys who played in u-19 world cup so that atleast in the next 3 years we have a good team......

Posted by EnglishCricket on (December 14, 2012, 11:06 GMT)

India should instead play weak teams like Scotland or Afghanistan and not waste England's time if it is so one-sided. England should've really won the 1st test if only they prepared more and got their full team selection right. Its clear Indian Cricket team is becoming weaker everyday :D

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:05 GMT)

it was a super day of cricket and England and dominating against India

Posted by SriSanka on (December 14, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

India 87/4......no need to panic...great Ashwin still to bat......heh...heh...

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

i am big fans India. But a love to lost this match (it goes like this only) If lost this match only the selection on team changes for this poor performs. England fast bowler doing best here. but our talent fast bowler dont get changes. Next team likely 1.Gambhir(C), 2.Rahane, 3.Pujara, 4.Kohli, 5.Patel/Saha(wt), Jadeja, 6.Manprit Juneja (Gujarat No 6th Bastsmen, Backup keeper also), 7.Kedar Jadha(Maharashtra), 8.Ashwin, 9.Awana, 10.Dinda/Ojha 11.Sharma. If opener gets given to changes bated at No.6 or 7 doesn't sign every time. Give changes to No 6 or 7 spl batsman

Posted by freo75 on (December 14, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

Its a good job Anderson can't bowl in the subcontinent...

Posted by mogs on (December 14, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

Will MSD play a captain's innings...! hope he will do so and we will square the series... Cmon India

Posted by RAMAXI on (December 14, 2012, 10:51 GMT)

Message to Indian Batsman.....T20s are starting from 20th Dec., 2012.....dont't worry about it

Posted by senthil25 on (December 14, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

Now i think England Fans will be happy about the pitch......crazy fans..........

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 10:46 GMT)

sachin should retire its not neccesary to end career run on a good note.bad play is not acceptable even legend should perform for a place in team

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 10:45 GMT)

@binender123,although selecters have multiple players in choice for selecting , they will not drop Shewag,Gambir,DHoni,Koli,Aswin,Sachin,which is 6 persons sealed among 11,wheres Sachin,Shewag,Gambir,Koli not scoring runs and their Wickets are just a free jackpot for England (5 wickets for no no runs(0/5)),Aswin & Ojha with no wickets(being defensive in a must win must win match) is useless in this innings, in case if aswin shine in batting his selection can be justified ,so only Ishant,Chawla,Pujara,Jadaja has to perform, in which its not possible to expect batting from Ishant, Pujara already gone,at last only Jadaja ,Chawla, Chawla batting !!! so only Jadaja atlast can be expected to bat(who is not a regular performer)- what a selection amazing 5 batsman who don't bat, 2 all rounders who perform either in batting or bowling and 4 bowlers who don't have ability to take wickets in regular intervals - we can expect only 3-1 England win for this test series

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

Team India..I was thinking India might put up 500+ runs..but now i guess they are in danger of follow on..What a performance..

Posted by Anand_Verma on (December 14, 2012, 10:37 GMT)

That's it it's all Over now, One Wicket down and the rest follow like a Pack of Cards the Indian Batsmen are falling. Dear Mr.Sachin Tendulkar haven't you still realised that you done with this Game, please for Gods Sake retire, look how weak you have made our Middle Order, your body language is so down and uninspiring, deep down you also know that you have to retire and you been dragging yourself for too long..England will win this by an Innings..Pathetic perforamance from Team India. I say Sack Dhoni, Gambhir, Sehwag, Tendulkar (if he does not retire) and Make Kohli the Captian.

Posted by jb633 on (December 14, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

Where is gsingh7 and the bengalTiger when you need them. Yet again your predictions have come to absolultley nothing. This is top draw cricket from England and this pitch is an absolute shocker. This is one of the worst pitches I have ever seen for test cricket. Losing the Indian God to a grubber is absolute justice for producing this deck. Where are those Indian fans that were gloating last night? Please I want to hear your opinions.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

Poor India, 4 wickets down now with just 71 on board. No way I think they can win or save this match. Too much oppurtunity given to Tendulkar, it is time for him to quit the game. Two or three batsmen need to stay at the crease to give some hope to India.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (December 14, 2012, 10:29 GMT)

71/4 and now India in total disarray. The mental disintergration has set in....

Posted by UsmanAnsari on (December 14, 2012, 10:27 GMT)

71/4... and looks like the result is going to be no different for India.. they may well need to come up with another "new pitch"

Posted by sanjeevbiswal1984 on (December 14, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

India is going to loose this series for sure...

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 10:09 GMT)

Lol at Pujara..He ran out of steam just after 2 matches...His class exposed

Posted by freo75 on (December 14, 2012, 9:53 GMT)

Having seen Pujaras dismissal - you would have thought that someone would have invented a system to reduce umpire error by now

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (December 14, 2012, 9:49 GMT)

59/2 Pujara gone...! GO ENGLAND!!! Go for the kill!!!!!

Posted by imrankhan76uk on (December 14, 2012, 9:42 GMT)

It is too early to call as 330 is only a decent score on this pitch... but what I loved is some "arrogant fans" got treat of the match on 3rd ball of India's batting. Ofcousre they were predicting results yesterday and it will interesting to hear more excuses now :))

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 9:34 GMT)

india what are you doing its time to get up

Posted by Resultpredictor on (December 14, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

Now India should play till 4th day to take a substantial lead and win this match.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 9:22 GMT)

Time to uproot Sehwag from the Indian team. In fact, overdue. This is going on for nearly TWO years, except for a 'once-in-a-blue-moon' performance. That is of no use. He is blocking the carer of another young man, the same way Sachin continues to block.

Posted by SamRoy on (December 14, 2012, 9:21 GMT)

Sehwag's dismissal was one of the weirdest clean bowled in recent times for an opening batsman. He played inside the line to an inswinger and got clean bowled. I mean how can an opening batsman play inside the line to an inswinger? Playing inside the line to an outswinger or a straight delivery is fine but to an inswinger? It was as if he expected the inswinger to swing more. Time for him to say goodbye to test cricket as his reflexes are slowing down and also his fitness is much worse than minimum required to play a long innings. As he is a batsman completely based on hand-eye (like Gilchrist) as soon as you lose even a fraction of it, it is best to retire. This comes from a big Sehwag fan who thinks Sehwag has been a more important test batsman in Indian Cricket than anybody else and main reason why India became a respected team away from home.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 9:15 GMT)

I had been rooting for Root as a replacement opener, in place of Strauss, even before Strauss retired. Nice to see him coming at 6, and doing so well. Proves that good batsmen can play at any position. That is why many Indian cricket fans had been arguing for the inclusion of Rahane , in ANY position. Rahane would have been India's Root.

We, Indians. get to see Root, only when some of the Yorkshire matches get broadcasted in India, live or otherwise. If I am free, invariably I watch, mainly to see this boy's batting. For some reason, he always used to bring me memories of a young Boycott. I have also seen him, bowling occasionally. Only the English readers can tell us how good Root is, in bowling.

His position in the England team will take roots. Not like, many other guys who were planted, withered away, uprooted, and discarded.

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 14, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

now india needs 450+ to win by an innings less than 400 will take match to 5th day but english defeat is imminent here, this pitch is exactly wat best suits this strong batting lineup of indians, pujara can score big here to keep india's proud record of only 3 losses in last 46 test series in india, so team in world can claim such record of being hometrack bullies

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

@GerrardLK,big word from somebody whose team was at the receiving end for most part of the last two decades,i think u quickly forgot ur own 0-3 in UAE and the recent 0-2 that to at ur home condition..better dont show such arrogance

Posted by SAboucher on (December 14, 2012, 9:00 GMT)

i didnt hear u saying this a before couple of years back when ur team were castrated ,enslaved by a better indian line up for atleast about 15 years Mr GerrardLK......

Posted by senthil25 on (December 14, 2012, 8:54 GMT)

Mr. GerrardLk, Pls Stop criticize India.......yes as a indian fan we too agree that india not played well.......but your comments really rubbish.....we have Very respect to England cricket & England Fans.......but your comments towards India & Indian fans..its horrible....... i dont think even english fans will accpect your comments..........

Posted by Charlie101 on (December 14, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

I can not understand the posts which are predicting an England win already . The game is very much in the balance though slightly in our favour as Sehwag who was the one player who could have scored quickly is out. Day 4 will decide the test match !!!

I was surprised that Joe Root was selected out of the blue but now understand the reasons !!!

Posted by TheBengalTiger on (December 14, 2012, 8:30 GMT)

Has there ever been a case for banning a cricket team as much as there is for banning England? the way they behave on the pitch is sickening. The majority of their team isn't even English

Posted by ygkd on (December 14, 2012, 8:23 GMT)

I'd say Joe had taken root. A bit like watching grass grow in the outfield. It being India there wouldn't be much on the pitch.

Posted by yankinsa on (December 14, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

Wasn't it Sehwag who last week stated that there was nothing wrong with India's batting ?? Quite ironic - and sad to see former good batsmen like Sehwag and Tendulkar now well past their prime and almost a liability to India....along with their over rated captain !!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 7:59 GMT)

@ Solid_Snake, how quickly should India score? They are already 1/1.

Posted by krvij on (December 14, 2012, 7:58 GMT)

@ GerrardLK: Its all right to make comments, criticism teams & players, and even fans, but you need to be careful in your choice of words. Calling Indian fans 'foolish' is not proper, what do we call this... politeness or arrogance? its normal for any fan to expect their team to win. India has been playing badly, we accept that, but every team has its ups & down. Whole world knows Eng team's standards few years back, now its playing good competitive cricket which is good to see. Beyond all its a sport and try to be sportive!

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 14, 2012, 7:57 GMT)

Anderson rips out Sehwag's middle stump in the very first over on the the flattest deck in the world. Again, where are his critics? Hiding away from debate, where they belong.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

Well considering they were 139/5 I think England would take 330. If India can bat with patience, skill and good disipline, I think they could definately overhaul that total. The thing is, that's a very big IF! This being a must win for India I think need to look to only bat once, overwise probably a draw. Never mind Sehwags just gone, come on England!

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 7:47 GMT)

India needs a new captain. MS Dhoni is taking everything in a very casual way.

Posted by disco_bob on (December 14, 2012, 7:33 GMT)

Amusingly, Joe, is rooted to the pitch, Whereas India is rooted by the pitch.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 14, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

300+ is more than enough..Now if India comes to bat & score more than 300..They need to do it fast i mean really fast.England already has wasted 2 days & i can see this match is moving towards a draw.Right from first few overs it was that England were here to draw this match & waste as much time as possible.They succeeded.. Poor Dhoni..was flying high some time ago.But now back to earth after 8-0 big time thrashing.Now his job is at stake..depending on this last test match..this is cricket.Same story of every captain in Sub continent

Posted by sundersingh on (December 14, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

if India lose this match and i am damn sure they lost at the last one hour of play(day 1).....as Sanjay told in the preview show.....

Posted by binender123 on (December 14, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

Poor scoad selection from MS dhoni.....MS please dont spoil your image by doing this kind of foolishness......I think somebody from the top wants piyush to be....C'z im wondering what made selectors to choose him without any good performance

.....................Dear Bro's from India somebody please raise this question to higher... bec'z so many of young cricketers with lots of talent by sacrifycing their other happiness and are waiting for a chance......never let these thing happen

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (December 14, 2012, 7:06 GMT)

@GerrardLK, Ur generalising a bit too much. If u meant the current team then I absolutely agree with u. They are a bunch of overhyped, average players with an inflated sense of their own very limited abilities as are some of the fans, but India have definitely had a lot of truly great players and some very good teams in the past so a sweeping generalisation is pretty ridiculous . In fact most countries have had good and ordinary teams at some time or other.

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 14, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

I like 3-1 england win. 100% possibility.

Posted by dil333 on (December 14, 2012, 6:56 GMT)

"root remains firm" lol can see many puns to come

Posted by yoogi on (December 14, 2012, 6:44 GMT)

If the english pacers who are way better than sharma, can repeat his figures for this match, India will be 100-6 to pace bowling. That is almost a Win for England. On the other hand, having four pacers will give the captain the option of continous pressure with pace, the same cannot be said about spin bowling. Two can do the job and a part-timer like Yuvi or Jadeja is more than enough. one of the spinner is an extra here.

Posted by landl47 on (December 14, 2012, 6:41 GMT)

England will be happy to have kept India in the field for 4 full sessions and the longer they can extend it for, the better. Root has been very impressive in his concentration and the straightness of his bat. At 21, he looks to have a wonderful future. This looks a decent score, but we'll see how the Indian innings goes.

Posted by GerrardLK on (December 14, 2012, 6:36 GMT)

England will score min. 350+. India will be rolled out in the 1st innings to less than 200 & nothing will change in 2nd innings too. Perhaps cook or KP may score 200 & eliminate India to 3-1 series defeat. More chances of England winning by an Innings this time. India will be humiliated at their own back yard to put their fans in shatters. But as far as neutral fans are concerned, this result was an easy guess. Everyone knows about India's inability to play test cricket except for foolish Indian fans.

Posted by   on (December 14, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

Who knew some Joe Root would one day be the reason for some Mahendra Dhoni's losing his job!

Posted by Essex_Man on (December 14, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

Very impressive from Root. Yet another England player who looks at home straight away in Test cricket - a credit to the whole English domestic system and structure.

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