India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 4th day

Trott, Bell edge England towards safety and series

The Report by Andrew McGlashan

December 16, 2012

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England 330 and 161 for 3 (Trott 66*, Bell 24*) lead India 326 for 9 dec (Kohli 103, Dhoni 99, Anderson 4-81) by 165 runs
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Jonathan Trott struck a vital half-century, India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 4th day, December 16, 2012
Jonathan Trott dug in for a vital, unbeaten half-century that pushed England towards safety in the match © BCCI
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Jonathan Trott helped settle a slightly nervy England as they closed in on a famous series victory in Nagpur, reaching the close of the fourth day with a lead of 165. He and Ian Bell added 67 for the fourth wicket after India had given themselves a glimmer by removing Kevin Pietersen shortly after tea with England's advantage still less than 100. Now England are a solid morning session away from their goal.

While India's bowlers did a respectable job on a pitch that refused to break up, their approach in the morning session had been bizarre as they plodded along for 13 overs adding just 29 runs before MS Dhoni finally declared with a narrow deficit. Batting so defensively did nothing but take time out of the game, a situation England were quite happy to go along with. Since India lost quick wickets yesterday evening their only hope has been third-innings panic, which has happened in the past when a draw is the favoured result.

When Pietersen fell, inexplicably shouldering arms at Ravindra Jadeja as Trott did in the first innings, England were tottering on 94 for 3 and Dhoni's hopes were far from dead. Due to the scoring rate of less than two an over - England did not break that barrier until the 62nd over - the lead had not been carried far away from India and the one batsman thought most likely to do that was the one walking back.

Trott, though, played a superb hand, timing the ball as well as anyone has managed on this docile surface. He was off the mark first ball with a sweep and regularly picked off deliveries through the leg side. There was also a curious route for one of his nine boundaries when the ball slipped out of Jadeja's hands, during his delivery, and lobbed towards the on side. As Trott was completely within his rights to do he skipped out and smashed the no-ball to the square-leg fence.

It was also an innings that created some spice in the match. On 43, Trott went to cut Ishant Sharma and India were convinced there was an edge but Kumar Dharmasena, who had earlier made a mistake in giving Alastair Cook caught behind, was unmoved.

Next ball Sharma followed through close to Trott, who responded by blowing a little kiss, and tensions began to grow. At the end of the over there were heated exchanges with the umpires involving Dhoni and Virat Kohli - a likely future India captain, who did not carry himself very well. Meanwhile, a few minutes later, Snickometer (which would not be part of DRS were it in use) did not register any sound.

Trott was unmoved and, in fact, probably motivated further. He went to 49 with an off-drive against Sharma, a rare shot on this slow pitch, and next ball had his half-century from 106 deliveries. India, however, were still festering. Towards the end of the day R Ashwin pulled out of a delivery and warned Trott for backing up too far. It belied the growing frustrations.

Bell provided solid support following the potentially vital loss of Pietersen. It was an important period for him after a lean series - he will need to continue on the final morning - and he collected runs calmly. There was one moment of fortune when he edged Ashwin through a vacant slip where two balls earlier Virender Sehwag had been stood. The fourth-wicket stand came at almost three an over, a largely unseen rate in this match.

The day brought a total of 190 runs, but midway through it did not appear even that total would be reached. After India's strange approach, Cook and Nick Compton put all their efforts into ensuring against early mishaps for England. Progress was at snail pace but, especially for Cook, there was too much at stake to suddenly try anything too flamboyant.

The first boundary of the day did not come until five minutes before lunch, when Compton edged Ashwin to third man, and Cook had reach 5 from 78 deliveries when he slotted away a cover drive.

For the second time in the match Cook was removed through an umpiring error from Dharmasena when he played forward to Ashwin and the ball spun past the outside edge. There was a strong appeal, and a noise, but replays confirmed that Cook's bat had struck the ground and he had missed the ball. It left Cook with a match tally off 14 off 121 balls but it did nothing to dilute the epic nature of his series, which ended with 562 runs.

Compton's solidity alongside Cook has been one of the major plusses to come out of this series. His defence had been firm throughout the afternoon session but in the final over before tea he was given lbw to Ojha. Replays suggested an inside edge but the ball was also caught in the gully so the presence of DRS would only have changed the mode of dismissal.

At that point it had been one of the more forgettable days of Test cricket in recent memory, but the final session was far more entertaining for a variety of reasons. There will be debate about how India handled themselves, but at least it showed the passion remained. That has not always seemed the case in this series. England, though, as they had done on Saturday, did not lose their cool and finished the day stronger. They are very close now.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (December 17, 2012, 0:03 GMT)

England won the series fair and square, despite all the handicaps. They were a far superior side in every area, at least in this series. Also, there were many passengers in the Indian side. England also had a few. But they replaced Samit fast, and Trott & Bell finally seem to raise their hands. And brought in Monty, soon after just One mistake of omission. A hell of a lot of credit should go to Captain Cook. Many give credit to Andy Flower & co who seem to strategize. But t is Cook's entry in the drivers seat, which made a BIG difference. Stating with getting KP back... to many other deeds... and most importantly through his own solid ( though low profile) performance.

Posted by Silverbails on (December 16, 2012, 23:57 GMT)

There's only 2 outcomes here: either a draw or an England victory. India have shown NO URGENCY in their batting, and will be happy to draw, so a stop avoiding losing. So, England will win 2 - 1. Congrats. Sad to see Indian Test cricket like this. Time for MSD to go. At least with Kohli as captain, he looks more passionate...Sad Test series for India at home, and for SRT in probably his last Test series at home. Won't be sad to see him go, as he's only ever been interested in personal glories NOT for the team, unlike the legendary Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman, who are both sadly missed!!

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (December 16, 2012, 23:50 GMT)

@The_bowlers_Holding - don't hold your breath on Indian fans doing a 360. The only Indian posters worth reading are CandidIndian and Nampally...they rest...less said about them the better.

Posted by baskar_guha on (December 16, 2012, 23:42 GMT)

Disturbing trend with ESPN Cricinfo - Most writers (being English) are so pro-England, I can almost hear "God Save The Queen." Doesn't bode well for fans of all other countries who want to read fair and insightful reporting, not pandering to your favorite English player. Time for a truly balanced website for cricket is upon us.

Posted by LillianThomson on (December 16, 2012, 23:12 GMT)

You know the really sad thing here?

This series is pretty close in spite of India being hobbled by terrible administrators who have allowed the team to age.

Imagine how things would be going with decent administration allowing Duncan Fletcher to do his job properly, like he did in England.

Sehwag would have been dropped long ago for chronic failure in the Second Innings. Tendulkar would have been forcibly retired after the World Cup. Zaheer Khan would have been given a severe fitness plan two years ago, and would be bowling at 145K for long spells.

The team would have accepted DRS like everyone else. As a result, other players and spectators would enjoy playing India, rather than feeling pimped by their money-grubbing boards.

India would control world cricket in a positive way, rather than as a neo-colonialist bully steamrollering everyone else into submission.

But no. Very, very sad.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 16, 2012, 22:56 GMT)

@Balaji Kumar: you deserve many hearty & congratulatory pats on the back! You, and many others of like mind who express their genuine feelings in these posts are the true fans of Indian cricket & your sentiments strike a responsive chord in true fans across the world. We, genuine cricket lovers outside India, want cricket in India to be healthy; want it to be strong; we know & deeply appreciate the depth of your love for our game. India is 'our country' too in that respect. You have a population greater than that of all the other Test playing nations combined. You are therefore our flag-bearer on the world stage. That is why it's vital that the BCCI heed your heartfelt words. It's the strong & clear preception that your Board of Control has dragged our game into an unhealthy mire of disrespect, suspicion, enmity & discord. We hate it, as you do too. Of course DRS is right, of course the BCCI's obsession with power without responsibility is wrong. Who is going to get out the big broom?

Posted by Ranveerrsingh on (December 16, 2012, 22:38 GMT)

If Trott had every right to hit that no-ball from Jadeja to the boundary, then Ashwin had every right to run him out for backing up too far!! Remember, Trott also claimed a catch after picking the ball of the ground while fielding in the slips in one of the previous tests. This guy has no sporting spirit and wants to win by hook or by crook! Don't know why Ashwin did not run him out......should have served Trott a lesson by doing so!!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

The histrionics following that bogus, orchestrated appeal by Dhoni & Ishant were symptomatic of a far deeper malaise in Indian cricket: one that's taken root in the past decade or so, & that centres around a sense of generic entitlement based squarely on the fact that India has become the financial powerhouse of world cricket. It's this sense of entitlement that's led directly to the BCCI's belief that it's acceptable to sabotage opposing teams' preparations by refusing them meaningful practice against spin, by its disgraceful non-deployment of DRS (safe in the knowledge that standing umpires, terrified of falling foul of the BCCI, will almost always favour India in marginal decisions), by openly endorsing doctored pitches & by attempting to gag the non-Indian media. No fair-minded person likes a bully or a cheat, which is why England's victory in this series has been so sweet; it's also why 95% of neutrals invariably support whichever team happens to be playing against India.

Posted by SaintJohn on (December 16, 2012, 22:32 GMT)

No DRS is required for Sehwag and Tendulkar.

Posted by SaintJohn on (December 16, 2012, 22:31 GMT)

Where is MSD who complained about English conditions last year?

Posted by SaintJohn on (December 16, 2012, 22:29 GMT)

3 test series loss in less than 18 moths. Thanks IPL, more to come

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 16, 2012, 22:27 GMT)

Come on guys *yawn*... England have won the series !! Let's move on to some interesting cricket now. Bring on the T20s and ODIs where we can at least be sure of some fine Indian performances. Full credit to England though, for teaching India some lessons on how to approach test cricket (for how much ever longer it lasts).

Posted by Richie_P on (December 16, 2012, 22:08 GMT)

Great resolve by Trott and Bell under real pressure, it's a big deal for England to get a series win in India for first time in nearly three decades, that's a lot of pressure. It's going to be an good 2013 for England if all the top players can find form and carry it through to The Ashes :) Australia beware

Posted by alfredmynn on (December 16, 2012, 22:00 GMT)

In fairness, it appears that over the course of the series, India suffered a tad more from poor umpiring than England did. As for Dhoni mobbing the umpire, I saw nothing to get worked up about; he is normally a placid character, and such things happen in the heat of the moment. Kohli's show of petulance was a bit excessive though. There's altogether too much whining on these boards, with fans of both sides trying to score brownie points from what was simply a tough, attritional day of test cricket. About DRS, I agree with another poster that the BCCI have taken such a hard stance that their ego prevents them from reconsidering. How can the richest cricket board in the world be wrong? It's impossible. Dhoni lacks the intelligence to make effective use of DRS anyway, as illustrated by his inability to understand the simple principle that the reliability of hawk-eye's predictive element falls off when the point of impact is too close to the pitch of the ball.

Posted by InsideHedge on (December 16, 2012, 21:58 GMT)

@JG-whatever: You cleverly use sarcasm to mock Indian fan postings but conveniently ignore highly charged and jingoistic pro-England postings. What you're unable to see is that a large number of the latter are fans from SL and Pak. No surprises there.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 21:46 GMT)

If India don't want DRS, they can't complain about onfield decisions.

Cannot believe Dharmasena is Umpire of the Year, he has had a poor series and also had a poor World Cup last year. India don't look a united team and seem to lack matchwinning bowlers with both Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan past their best.

Hope Trott and Bell see the job through for England - come on you Bears!!

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 21:45 GMT)

Although we have had some shocking decisions in this series we shouldn't be too hard on the umpires. All the elite panel umpires have gotten used to DRS and it must be tough standing in tests in Ind and not be able to use it. Personally I'm still not sure why the BCCI are so against it. It will never be a 100% but its certainly more beneficial than having to make such crucial decisions in a split second with the naked eye.

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 16, 2012, 21:37 GMT)

Sinhaya- I agree that its wrong that DRS is not used in this series, i agree that Eng fans have the right to be upset over umpiring decisions but Indian fans dont have the right because our board refused to use technology ,and i also agree that Dharamsena did poor umpiring in this match.But the allegation that BCCI lobbying made him favor Indian team here and in SL is more out of hatred and less out of logic and proof.Aleem Darr gave Cook not out twice when he was LBW whose lobbying it was then? if some umpire gives poor decisions against India then India deserves it, while if poor decision is given in favor of India its lobbying ,setting ,favor whatever you can call it.You can have it both ways sir,truth is that both teams got affected by poor umping and DRS is the right answer.Our team is outplayed by Eng and we accept defeat and mistake made by our board graciously ,but rubbish allegations of lobbying are sad and unfair

Posted by clarkac1 on (December 16, 2012, 21:29 GMT)

Just watched some of the highlights - it occurred to me that, in a very ironic way, this series has proved how good the DRS is. Patel given out twice in the 1st test, Cook twice in this one, and Compton in this test...all not out, all would have been overturned. Plus quite a few others on both sides. By resisting DRS, the BCCI have unwittingly revealed how good it is!

Posted by Jaffa79 on (December 16, 2012, 21:21 GMT)

I have to say that I do respect Dhoni, in that at least he fronts up and shows some heart. He did in this test and he did during the WC final. I just think that he has too much on his plate. I think players like Sehwag should shoulder more of the blame; he always looks out of shape and looks like he lacks bottle in a scrap. All he can do is flash at everything and takes no responsibility when the heat is on. Who should get the Indian captaincy? Gambhir is out of nick, Kohli has shown himself to be a petulant brat and there seems no one else. It is easy to throw the captain overboard but who could step up?

Posted by BG4cricket on (December 16, 2012, 21:19 GMT)

This is still an intriguing Test and all results are still possible especially as England do not have much of a lead and Sehwag and Kohli could still chase down a lowly target, however the draw is certainly the favourite at the moment. England have shown great application with bat and ball to get this close to a deserved series victory and Cook, KP, Anderson, Swann and Panesar have been immense. For those who think it translates to an automatic victory in the Ashes however you might be in for a surprise. It is worth noting that Australia have played 10 Tests so far this year and only lost 1 to SA so I think they will be very tough whereas England have played 15 and lost 7 and bearing in mind how weak India actually are there overall form is not great. However take nothing away from what England look like they will achieve on this tour as they have shown great skill and tenacity to rebound so strongly.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 21:18 GMT)

@AvidCricfan, I'm no expert on Ind domestic affairs but I'm not convinced player selection has cost Ind likely defeat in this series. Ind are clearly going through a rebuilding phase Eng are a far more settled unit & are just the better team right now. However there are clearly other problems for ind such as are the top players playing too much T20 & LO cricket? Is the standard of the Ranji trophy good enough to prepare players for tests, are the pitches played on good enough? These are just a few things and im sure there's a lot more which needs to be questioned. I rem the position Eng cricket was in back in the 90s. Such things as the restructuring of the county champions to 2 tiers has had a great effect on the test side. We see very few Ind players in CC these days largely do to the IPL running alongside the first half of our season. Bowlers like Yadav & Sharma could learn a lot from a stint playing here, it did Zaheer's career a heck of a lot of good when pl for Worc.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 21:12 GMT)

I am an Indian fan and I want every English fan to hear me out ! I feel the great nation of India deserves ANOTHER cricket team - the team chosen by OUR fans !! One which will represent the true ideals, dignity, pride and hard work of India. NOT this 'BCCI team'. No, no, this is NOT our team India. This is a group that is closely associated with the haughty bureaucrats in Mumbai who only look out for their self interests and greed. It's time to wake up fans, we need our own team. The REAL team INDIA; not these BCCI sponsored honchos. As far as the DRS goes, once again I am an INDIAN fan and I support the DRS. I am not alone here and there are billions more who support the DRS and the use of responsive technology. Congratulations England on a well deserved series win. "Team BCCI", you were simply not good or professional enough.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 16, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

Jose Puliampatta on (December 16 2012, 15:15 PM GMT) I have read many of your posts and they are normally well rounded and fair. The comments re:Kohli and how Ponting went on to be a successful captain are I feel missing the point; Ponting was a success on the field largely due to a squad of truly great players (including himself), however when the chips were down he was prone to extreme temper outbursts that were most unattractive and not in keeping with a test match captain; he was always a good loser in post match interviews however with no excuses unlike MSD. Personally I think Clarke is a much better captain both tactically and in his behaviour.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 20:58 GMT)

@Harshani Peirera, How on earth do you think 250 in 40 overs is gettable on this pitch? That's a run rate of 6.25 per over. So far only 819 runs have been scored in 4 days cricket at a RR of 2.2. Ind scoring in the first inns (326 in 143 overs)was no better than Eng's (330 1n 145.5 overs). The pitch isn't suddenly going to become easy to score on the last say and if it did Ind will need a lot more than 250 in a lot less than 40 overs.

Posted by HouseMD on (December 16, 2012, 20:43 GMT)

come to india--we will take revenge. oops , england is already in india and beating india. noooooooo.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 20:42 GMT)

@A_Yorkshire_Lad, I don't think there's any problem with Eng fans expecting a series win tomorrow. For Ind to have been in with a with realistic chance they would have needed to have taken at least 2 more wickets this eve. For them to stand any sort of chance tomorrow they would have to take all Eng's remaining 7 wickets by lunch, only 8 wickets have fallen in the last 6 sessions! and the pitch has hardly changed at all since day one. Even if Ind some how manged to do that they would still need around 220 in 60 overs a RR of around 3.7 no team has managed better than 2.5 so far! I see it being a pretty drab day tomorrow. I also don't see Eng getting to a relatively safe total of say 270/280 declaring and trying to bowl Ind out in 35/40 overs. Nothing will be left to chance we will just bat until Ind bowl us out and by then there won't be enough time for them to try & chase the score down.

Posted by kingishere on (December 16, 2012, 20:32 GMT)

@ AvidCricFan..I completely agree with you. We have to find and encourage talent in the longer version of the game. The youngsters are more inclined towards the shorter version due to money. We may not get another Dravid or VVS but we need to find someone atleast half talented as these two stalwarts. One way could be to make it mandatory that each IPL franchise should adopt one of the top 8 test players ( 4 batsmen and 4 bowlers) by giving them atleast 80% contract amount of their highest contracted player. We can keep batting average of 50 plus or bowling average of 30 for example as a metrics along with certain runs to measure performance. It may sound strange but right now thats the approach I can think of. Other Indian fans suggest if you have a better plan.

Posted by mak102480 on (December 16, 2012, 20:23 GMT)

I am an Indian cricket team supporter and fan through and through. Nothing will change that. But, I would like to say this to the England cricket team: what a well played series. You outplayed India in this series and deserve the series victory (India still has a outside chance to draw but less likely). To the India cricket fans: Don't lose hope. Players like Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit Sharma (yes, I still believe in him), Yadav, Varun Aaron, Ojha, Ashwin provide a good platform for the future. Support your team. Anybody can support their team in the good times, but good fans really support their team in bad times as well.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 16, 2012, 20:18 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar, perhaps you would care to look at Dhoni, Kohli, Ishant, and R Ashwin's boorish behavior today and then give us a lecture on sportsmanship. This is the problem with India and her fans. They think that no team is good enough to beat them and if they do, they will complain about all kinds of inane things and throw in silly excuses. What example of sportsmanship did Indian players display when they argued with the umpire on what was a not-out because the replays were inconclusive and the benefit of the doubt always goes to the batsman? Typical Indian bullies!

Too much is made out of that no-ball by Jadeja. It was such a pitch and while Trott could have let it go, it was a bad, bad ball and deserved to be put away anyway. What are you going to complain about next? Our batsmen scoring runs off long-hops and half-volleys? Or if we score runs at all?

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

defensive nature of dhoni.he didnt want to lose series by 2 clear he wanted safety first.

Posted by bingohaley on (December 16, 2012, 20:10 GMT)

Well done England, very well batted and bowled! Excellent whipping of the Indians!

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 16, 2012, 20:08 GMT)

@Clifford Bradford The laws of the game are a red herring as the MCC is custodian, not the ICC. The ICC determines playing conditions, not the laws and the use of DRS is within those playing conditions and not the laws.

Posted by gyusuf6 on (December 16, 2012, 20:06 GMT)

@Khalid Shuja on (December 16 2012, 12:45 PM GMT), Bro, don't be so harsh on the Umpires. They have not changed their allegiance/nationality, LOL. If that was the case then English/Indian fans could claim Aleem Dar changed his Nationality/Allegiance to India/England. I hope you noticed he made a lot of mistakes in the first two tests in this series. Be fair when you comment and don't be biased if you love cricket. The umpires are human too and they bound to make mistakes just like you and I. So give them a break.....Be Humble BRO...Thanks

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 19:48 GMT)

I get a feeling, ashwin is going the shoaib Malik way. Came in as a spinner and getting converted to a batsman

Posted by sjm5000 on (December 16, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

Fielding sides make me laugh. They always complain about batsmen not walking, but has a fielding side ever reversed an appeal when they know a batsmen has got an edge on an LBW? Not once, ... EVER. DRS is brilliant because the players have to share responsibility - you really think it was out? Then challenge the decision. It isn't always right, but it's way way better than grown men behaving like babies.

Posted by disco_bob on (December 16, 2012, 19:35 GMT)

Kohli will make an excellent future captain for India, he's got all the necessary qualities ... quick to anger, arrogance and disdain for the spectators. He gave the crown 'the finger' on debut in Australia.

Posted by ti-jean on (December 16, 2012, 19:34 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas_etc. How was it unsporting? It is perfectly within the rules, and has been done before. (incidentally was nearly a similar situation in the Aus vs SL test but Watson's delivery went behind him and therefore went dead.) None of the Indian players complained, Jadeja was smiling. If a bowler delivers a rubbish delivery then the batsman is perfectly within his rights to despatch it to the boundary. Get off your high horse and enjoy moments like that. It added a moment of fun to a test match that has been as close to watching paint dry as I can remember!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 19:31 GMT)

Kholi, Ashwin, Dhoni should see some penalty. They misbehaved with the Umpires and tried to intimidate Trott with verbal abuse. Trott may want to file a police case against the three 'gentlemen' Cricketers.

Posted by gyusuf6 on (December 16, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

@ all english fans, stop whinning about umpiring, remember pujara's out in this test and Cooks NOT OUT in the last test(which was out)--refering to JG2704 on (December 16 2012, 09:08 AM GMT) " As an Eng fan (as it stands) we prob should be more happy there has been no DRS. With DRS Cook's 2nd test inns would have been curtailed and the whole series possibly changed on that moment". For Indian fans, you all should not be complaining about Umpiring since BCCI and Dhoni rejected the UDRS. For Paki and Aussie fans you all need to chill out and worry about your own team. Paki have to face "back against the wall" Indian Team(unbeatable sometimes and have not won againt them for a while-- when they are in that state) and Didn't Aussies lost the series recently against the south africa.... Be humble and enjoy cricket as it comes. Thanks...

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 16, 2012, 19:28 GMT)

Barring a miracle it is going to be a draw and a series win for Engand. Hopefully now some, I repeat some, of the Indian legions will give England some credit for beating India in India depite having the worse of the tosses through the series. There have been no star players missing, which was the reason for the 4-0 drubbing in 2011. DRS is another matter and ridiculous decisions have gone both ways, but certainly have not favored England (intentional spelling). On another related note Kohli comes across as petulant/vile and seemingly believes the hype about himself with his reactions on the pitch/post match comments is this a suitable candidate in a country that puts cricket players on mile high pedastals. ps. I suppose no one in India is interested in test matches and the ODI's will be revenge or whichever format India does better at that juncture. I for one hope this will put an end to the constant trolling by a multitude on every link regarding England, but somehow I doubt it.

Posted by Clive_Dunn on (December 16, 2012, 19:18 GMT)

As others have said, few reasonable cricket fans would suggest the umpires are biased. I would even say that the umpires who have stood in this series are the best the world has to offer. The problem is that, now the DRS cat is out of the proverbial bag, cricket fans want 100% accuracy and that simply isn't possible given the human eye and speed of the game. Cook looked out in real time, it wasn't a shocking decision ( the first innings one was worse to be fair ) until you saw the replay. Pujara also looked out in real time, and Compton's "LBW" ( although irrelevant given the subsequent catch" was also a very tough call on the umpire. DRS is here to stay, and BCCI needs to come into line with the rest of the world. Whether the predictive element of DRS stays is another question entirely.

Posted by SidTandon on (December 16, 2012, 19:17 GMT)

All right!!!! So they say that there's no solution!!! Dhoni is having his leanest patch, Gambhir and Sehwag are nowhere close to being replacements and Kohli is too young and inexperienced for test captaincy... I just have an idea which is not as ridiculous as it may sound... How about recalling VVS Laxman and handing him the test captaincy for a year with a completely new team without SRT Sehwag Gambhir until the successor is ready....He is a complete natural as captain.....It would be the same as Ani Kumble mentoring the Indian side before MS Dhoni was ready to take over!! Its an idea which might stabilise Indian cricket in the near future....

Posted by Nampally on (December 16, 2012, 19:15 GMT)

At least India showed some passion & intensity as regards to Trott's appeal. Too bad, it did not go in their favour. But India reallylost the battle in the Session 3 of Day 3. They should have gone for the runs then instead of going into the defensive shell as Dhoni stood on 99 while defending for 6 overs!.Blaming Ashwin is futile. At least he scored, in the company of #10 bat, as fast as Dhoni & Kohli did after being well set. Media hype always suggests Kohli as the "Future" Captain. I would much rather go with Pujara - an even tempered guy with fine batting skills. Clearly this match is heading for a draw. The writing was on the wall after Day 3. I personally expected that only a RH Wrist Leg Spinner will turn the initiative in favour of India. But Chawla, selected despite his poor form, was the wrong choice. Why was Rahul Sharma ignored after he warmed the bench for 4 previous series? A.Mishra had also done well. 4 Spinners could only get 3 wkts between them in 60 overs -poor show!

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

@ JG2704 Tbf to KP although he misjudged the delivery today, during his innings on tour, I've seen no signs he's gone back to playing bat behind pad and I personally think even without DRS the umpires will not think you can let you get away with it anymore. If you go back and watch his 180 odd & especially the 73, his defense was beautiful, with bat in front of pad as well as his bat coming down straight to meet the ball. On the subject of KP, before the tour started I was worried how he'd perform coming back to the side, especially after the papers had done a character assassination job on him but in good old KP style he's done well & answered a few critics. A match winning innings and another half century and then how he batted in the first innings here, it's showed how far he's come as a batsman and what he brings to the side, obviously he's prone to a few howlers though but aren't everyone.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 19:10 GMT)

India desparately needs changes in management

Posted by gyusuf6 on (December 16, 2012, 19:09 GMT)

@Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 16 2012, 09:17 AM GMT), bud don't pushit too much on the umpiring and I agree fully with@JG2704 on (December 16 2012, 09:08 AM GMT) about "With DRS Cook's 2nd test inns would have been curtailed and the whole series possibly changed on that moment". And that is the true and honest statement. Thank you Mr JG2704, I am not an Indian nor a Paki, living in states for over two decades and i love good, honest and fair cricket regardless of the countries involved. I have been reading all these articles and seem to me lots of people like,Sing 7, narasima v, Front foot lunge, Solid snake, LegalEagle, ricky-roy-pak lover, Lord dravid and a few Bangladeshi fans(forgot the names) are making so biased and unreasonable comments that make me feel they have no earthly idea of what Cricket is all about. Thank you for your(JG2704) comments. I like to read your comments as they are more fair, honest and logical. Thanks again...

Posted by bobmartin on (December 16, 2012, 19:05 GMT)

@ Clifford Bradford on (December 16 2012, 17:29 PM GMT) As a qualified umpire I realise that the Laws do not require DRS; it's an ICC Playing Regulation that requires the agreement of both sides for it's implementation. Since India are the only team opposed to it, any of their opponents do not get the use of it... Effectively India has a veto. Whilst I disagree unequivocally with the ICC's decision to permit this seeming injustice, one cannot deny India's right to exercise it. That's the point I was making. Another point is that, is permitting one side to dictate at least one of the Playing Conditions within the Spirit of Cricket that the ICC put such a huge store by. I don't think it is. Finally I have no truck with a team whose management state that they don't want DRS and that the umpires decision is final and then proceed to act in the outrageous way they did this afternoon.. India cannot have it's cake and eat it.... although it seems they have every intention of trying

Posted by Maq003 on (December 16, 2012, 19:05 GMT)

Dharmasena to be removed from the empiring coz he is making blunder mistake. This is not the first time once he gave out to Jayasuriya when was batting in 90s. Two inings two time same player (Cook) wrongly given out by him. If international empires are like this people will lose interest in cricket. Come on every board should have DRS to give live to fair cricket.

Posted by NairUSA on (December 16, 2012, 19:04 GMT)

It is very evident that Team India does not have the necessary bowling power to sustain them on tests in many years to come. One idea will be to bring in talented bowlers from neighboring countries like Pakistan and Sri Lanka and make them part of the Indian system. Many might chose to become Indian residents because of a lucrative market in India. England has done that successfully and is reaping the benefit. When all else fails, why not focus on such extreme measures?

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 16, 2012, 18:59 GMT)

(cont.) tried to predict the path of the ball based on a few tens of centimetres of trajectory when the distance to the stumps from the point of impact was many times greater. Any physicist will tell you that the error on such predictions is so large that the predictions are almost worthless. To me the problem is one of: (a) bad presentation of the data - you *must* show the errors in any calculation and; (b) inadequate use of the technology - if the batsman is hit 2 metres in front, 20cm after the ball has bounced you cannot trust the prediction anyway. So, if you don't present the errors, at least have a sensible definition of when the predictive element gives a valid result. For low catches TV replays are worse than useless because the camera angles are totally wrong to judge the ball's flight and the foreshortening makes any low catch look dubious: better a back-facing stump camera at low level to judge low slip catches.

Posted by crindex on (December 16, 2012, 18:51 GMT)

@ KukaSekhon : Thank God you are NOT one of the selectors.

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 18:50 GMT)

@JG2704 in my last comment I said Dhoni would have had KP wicket I mean to refer to that incident where Dhoni bowled and got Kp out . But DRS was there to save Kp . However its not the reason Dhoni doesnot want DRS . There are many reasons behind which. One of them would be a certain Bell lbw decision . And for some reason Dhoni thinks with DRS in Spinners dont get LBW s frequently . And if Dhoni wanted BCCI would have accepted DRS hand down .

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 16, 2012, 18:49 GMT)

@landl47 We have to go on the big debate in the Indian side before the 2011 series in England. The Indian bowlers wanted DRS, the Indian batsmen - supposedly worried by the help that it would give Graeme Swann - did not. There is nothing to indicate that these postures have changed. It's not beside the point that the claim is that it isnt 100% accurate (NB: the laws of physics do not allow 100% accuracy anyway). There is a potential compromise supported by such as Jon Agnew that would use DRS without the predictive element, although that looks to me like the worst of both worlds because TV will always use that predictive element anyway, There is even a solution to the predictive element and that is to include the likely error in the calculation and to offer a probability that the ball would hit/miss the stumps and then say that below x% probability it should be umpire's call. That would solve the crazy situation where the DRS rules were tweaked in the World Cup because they (cont.)

Posted by sendlink on (December 16, 2012, 18:42 GMT)

India has played well in this last test and 1st test and england are worried about their performance now in last test as we had seen in first test.England are not technically and mentally strong they are trying to draw this and win the test series this shows how India dominated in this last test and 1st test.Common India hope u win this last test and draw the series if not make necessary changes in the cricket panel including every branch of cricket from basics and become a good all round test team :-) :-) :-)

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

@JG2704 Dhoni is clearly anti DRS ,if he wanted BCCI would have taken DRS . Probably he would have had the wicket of KP but for DRS(just kidding that its for only that reason) . And I never said that trott decision is a howler . That was an absolutely correct decision . I dont think trott edged it . Regards KP he wont be playing in the subcontinent in the near future in test cricket and wont face much left arm spin on turning tracks . He is going to score big in the Ashes anyway hopefully . And In Srilanka even with DRS kp played a blinder . All I was saying it just helped play Kp in a certain way in this series with so much of left arm spin thrown at him . And the end result is that England have won . You should take pride in that and be happy about the result . Even you predicted a 2-1 for India b4 the series . Its a great achievment for England .I am a big Kp fan and I am happy 4 him . But I am sad for my team thats all and I dont want to hurt the emotion of any English fan either.

Posted by phoenixsteve on (December 16, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

Once again a thoroughly professional performqance fromn England. It remains to be seen though how they will fayre against a proper test team and impending series against the Aussies and South Africa could see them back at the top? Could.... A strange noise has been invading my PC when watching this test. Is it 1) The sound of Dhoni thunbing through the pages of his favourite book (A thousand excuses or How to live in Dreamland) or 2) Aussie lips being licked ahead of Indias next cricket lesson or 3) The creaking of Indian cricket administrators who must realsie that the games up? or 4) the wind of change swirling aroung empty test cricket stadiiums or 5) The moaning of the ghost of Test cricket past? Could be all of them and more! RIP India, COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (December 16, 2012, 18:24 GMT)

I have to confess that I am still hopeful of a positive result in this game in favour of England. It would be great to get 3-1 out of this. We can score a bit quicker in the first session with Ian Bell finding his range and then Prior smacking a few as well as Bresnan and Swann and possibly a deep depression will come over the Indian team late afternoon and they will collapse for a low score. They have nothing left to gain after all.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 16, 2012, 17:58 GMT)

Notice the gulf in class and skill between England and India: That's why England are winning and, like they do to Australia time and again, have proved themselves far superior.

Notice also that English players never do what India did today, gathering around and hounding the umpire, even when Trott was clearly NOT OUT. It's a sad fact that this is all India have left: Angry, over-paid and overweight players kicking and screaming whenever things don't go their way, just like Ricky Ponting used to do, England have spent an age now being streets ahead of the likes of Australia and everyone apart from South Africa. India are on the decline, yes, but they have been totally destroyed by the better team.

Take a bow England, at least you never stoop to levels of un-sportsmanlike behavior like what we saw today from Kholi/Dhoni/Ashwin. You are the true leaders of world cricket.

Posted by AvidCricFan on (December 16, 2012, 17:38 GMT)

The match is over and England has won the series. I would largely put the blame of series loss on BCCI who persisted with proven failed players on their reputation. If the BCCI brass is committed to improving Indian cricket quality, they need to focus on few basics: 1. talent development and nurturing at grass root level, 2. better playing conditions (pitches and grounds) that allow players to develop skills, 3. Compensation for playing in longer format, 4. revamp longer format games to create more excitement. IPL will be talent killer. Its fine to have IPL for money, but reward players for longer format.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 17:29 GMT)

@bobmartin. Actually while I agree in a sense that DRS should be used in international cricket I'm not against the BCCI deciding not to use it. The Laws of Cricket do not require it and given the absolutely glacial pace of test cricket today (especially in this series) avoiding something that would slow down the game despite its other advantages would have it merits. The thing the BCCI/ICC MUST do however is to severely discipline players who show the kind of dissent and disrespectful behavior that was shown yesterday. International players are role models for all the other cricketers in the world (whether they play organized cricket at whatever level or just with their mates in the park) who will never have DRS to appeal to. Can you imagine the game if every schoolboy or club cricketer thought they could berate the umpire for decisions that didn't go his way?

Posted by Musafir366 on (December 16, 2012, 17:27 GMT)

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Posted by hhillbumper on (December 16, 2012, 17:25 GMT)

There is alot of paranoia from Indian fans on here.One has to ask the question is anything ever done to the fact that India are just not that good? It seems there are as many excuses as there are people.

Posted by landl47 on (December 16, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

Just a comment on the umpiring. I don't accept for a moment that either umpire is biased in any way. They are human beings doing their best. Inevitably, some of their decisions have been wrong; the problem is that we are used to seeing wrong decisions corrected via the DRS. When they aren't, the errors become magnified. I'm not so concerned with the results of matches (I think errors even out over a series and have in this series), but the effect on individual players does bother me. Bairstow was wrongly given out in his only innings and never got another chance. Had he gone on to make a good score, his tour might have been very different. It's time for the ICC to tell the BCCI that the DRS will be used- otherwise no tests for India. It's crazy to have one rule for everyone else and another for India.

Posted by mysecretme on (December 16, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

contd.. Reason being, Tendulkar works well when he looks to dominate the bowlers and India needs him to start dictating matches not dealing with what is thrown at him. If India can identify a second correct opener, Tendulkar can retire gracefully. Now with bowling. We need to bring Pankaj Singh into the test team pronto, that guy is just being wasted in Ranji. Ishant needs to bowl atleast two yards full. If he does that, he will be India's Broad overseas. When Zaheer, Sreesanth, Yadav and Aaron get fit, then we will have a very good attack. In the spin department, Chawla and Ojha need to be in the side. Based on the composition of the other team (left handers) and its history (aussies are BAD against offies and play legspin well) you can have Ashwin replacing either Chawla or Ojha. For overseas, you need to replace one of these guys- probably Ojha,Ashwin with Irfan. Reason: Chawla gets more spin than them both.

Posted by crindex on (December 16, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

Stop bashing the captain for the team's bad performance as a whole. On a great batting pitch that was in Calcutta and a square turner in Mumbai this team failed to deliver. Leaving it to Nagpur for performance is too late in the series. There are some major overhaul needed in this team. Captain is the last in the list.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

Some posters on here have surpassed even my expectations. I particularly like the logic of those who slate DRS but then go on to boo about the decisions DRS would have reversed and cheerleaders from both sides who are saying their side are playing against 12 or 13 men. I'm particularly impressed with the comms of the person who uses the name of a fierce wild animal but then talks like a child who couldn't get his own way

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

@stop_moaning on (December 16 2012, 13:17 PM GMT) LOL at your post which totally contradicts your user name

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

@Akshita29 on (December 16 2012, 10:16 AM GMT) Hello. Out of interest is Dhoni anti DRS ? I know BCCI are anti it but wasn't sure what Dhoni's stance was on it. What was even worse that , if there was an edge it was so thin that the naked eye couldn't see it and snicko couldn't detect it so it certainly wasn't a howler if at all incorrect. I'm not that bothered by it and MSD must be under huge pressure and while I don't condone it at least it shows some passion. PS you mention about KP and that has got me thinking. The non use of DRS , I reckon may mean that KP will have developed habits which he will be penalised for when DRS comes into play in other series. He was doing alot of padding up (not playing shots). And re Re " BengalTiger please get a grip on yourself" - To be fair I think that's what he's been doing all along. Best regards

Posted by mysecretme on (December 16, 2012, 17:01 GMT)

Indian batting is facing a problem of finding replacements for Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly. If we ask Tendulkar to retire now, we might as well say good bye to any wins in the next 5 series. I believe one solution is to drop Gambhir to number 4. Two reasons 1. He does not really play the out swing well 2. He is excellent against spin and is capable of playing really long innings The next solution is to put Sehwag at number 6, where Laxman batted. By the time the match reaches him, the bowlers would be tired and be ready for being belted. We need an attacking player there. Dhoni should move permanently to number 5. He is the accumulator and that is the best position for him. Kohli needs to be number 3. He is a positive batsman and can push the scoring rate and can also drop anchor. Now, for 1 and 2. I believe openers should be your most correct players. Pujara needs to be there. The second opener is the problem. Temporarily, it can be Tendulkar and he should be asked to attack,

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

@ TheBengalTiger Every day this test series you've posted here some made up one sided rubbish, that this player should be banned or England should be banned but never ever comment or see what his own joke side are doing. Today they were a disgrace much worse than Trott claiming a bump catch, which has happened to every Test side over the years but yet you only post on England. Maybe you ought to look at Gambhir claiming a catch he got in his grill, or Dhoni arguing with the umpires when they call didn't go the way he wanted, worse was Kholi got involved, why who exactly does he think he is. Next time you see England do that you have room to talk, until then keep your one eyed jingoistic stupid views to yourself, you're just a sad bitter poor loser.

Posted by crickketlover on (December 16, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

Let Indian team keep complaining and whining, as England richly deserve to win the series. Hope it is a lesson for Indian cricket team.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 16, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

What a disaster for the concept of sportsmanship from Trott for following a delivery that bounced a dozen times and hit it to the boundary! Well within the rules?! Yeah right! It's a shame that people take refuge in rules to cover up their blatant disregard for sportsmanship. Didn't expect this from Trott. Contrast this to Cook, a victim of another dubious decision - started walking as soon as Dharmasena gave him out. All along his walk back to the pavilion, his head was down and was just expressing dissatisfaction and disappointment to himself. A great lesson for kids and cricketers to emulate.

Posted by landl47 on (December 16, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

Still lots to play for tomorrow. India will be hoping for the clatter of early wickets, England will be trying to navigate the first hour and get to 200 before perhaps accelerating a little and leaving India 45 overs to get 250+ or be bowled out. If this pitch does finally break up, surviving for 45 overs might be difficult. This has been a difficult wicket, but that has made for an absorbing tussle with each side in turn being on top. From an England perspective, whatever the result, this series has dispelled the idea that England can't play in the subcontinent. India has discovered a useful young batsman in Pujara and Ishant Sharma has looked like getting back to his old form. Kohli's innings in this test has salvaged the series for him, too. Dhoni's captaincy, though, remains a mystery- what on earth was the first hour today all about?

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

Crikey Trott hitting that pea roller was the best part of the day, it was hilarious. I've seen it a few times over the years in County cricket and it never gets boring. Ateotd if the bowler bowls such a poor delivery it deserves to get hit for a 4, just the same as a leg stump half volley does.

Posted by oneupnowuv on (December 16, 2012, 16:47 GMT)

this series has shown India a mirror a good long one ... changes are required new batsmen need to be included and groomed. and as for the emotion shown by Indian players nobody shld mind it so much they can show dissent and frustration. if eng/aus players do it then it is aggression,passion if we do it its against the spirit!! this eng team has beaten the weakest Indian lineup in a decade so be proud. happyfor Kohli's 100 he wud have learned a lot.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

@Richard Vivian, I thought this was a cricket website, I didn't know we could post comments about Rugby as well but since we are on the subject Aus recent win against Eng at Twickenham was in front of around 82,000 not the 70K you mentioned. Probably about the same amount of people who saw us trash you in a far more meaningful match in Sydney in 2003 for the webb ellis trophy. Looking forward to the next time we play you in the world cup at Twickenham in 2015, by the time that happens we would have beaten you in 5 straight ashes series!

Posted by A_Yorkshire_Lad on (December 16, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

@England fans - Steady lads , we're doing well but this isn't over yet ! A mini collapse ( unlikely but certainly possible ) in the first hour leaving us with a lead of 200 or so and India will be in the driving seat , I would think ! That said , if we ARE still batting by lunch and have a decent enough lead - 250/275 - then I hope we go all out for the win ; set an attacking field , Cookie , and just GO FOR IT !

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 16:33 GMT)

The umpires are trying really hard to make way for this Indian team but England r just too good to be victims of wrong umpiring decisions.....quite clear to the cricketing world why India doesn't want DRS !!

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 16:31 GMT)

@Akshita29, Well said! @Bengal Tiger you really need to stop posting your nonsense, The match will be drawn tomorrow & Eng will claim a well deserved series win. Why can't you just say well done Eng you have been the better team? Although there are some other Ind fans like yourself who come on here just to trash Eng & your other local Asian rivals, the vast majority of Ind fans on here are true fans who love the game and can except that these are difficult times for the Ind test team and some fundamental changes are required before the situation improves. Don't blame Eng or anyone else for your problems only Ind can get its own house back in order.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 16:30 GMT)

Anyways, Dhoni has achieved result in this match, he can brag that he scored vital 99 on a difficult pitch which will keep him the team until a new BCCI president is choosen. Also he will be elated to see that his favorites have found a place in the team. May be in Australian series we will see new opening pair - Suresh Raina and Murali Vijay (his other two favorites not in the eleven) - by that CSK's invasion of team India will be complete.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (December 16, 2012, 16:24 GMT)

I wouldnt say the way the Indian players behaved in the last session was passion it was more furstration, and knowing that the indian press will go after them, not only for all the 'Wait till they come to india' comments after the 2011 series in England, then to lose on 2 made to measure pitches, was even worse.

In the end this game is englands to lose a collapse in the morning and India are in with a sniff, but no side has scored at more than 2.5 (avg) all game so it will be a tough ask if england get to lunch and add another 50-100 runs.

Posted by amit_e33 on (December 16, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

Run out the backing up batsman. Enough of warning to England players. In the name of Spirit of the game English batsman are taking unfair advantage, and the bowler is suffering to keep it tight. If coach cannot make batsman understand this...they got to suffer themselves. Sometimes hard way is how we learn. India stop warning for backing up....pick up that wicket...

Posted by basusri133b on (December 16, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

Indian Cricket is in shambles.

The decision to bat on the fourth day has effectively robbed us off even the slimest chance of a possible win. Obviously this was a decision by the Team Management, that includes Dhoni, and Fletcher. Both these gentleman need to go.

The role of the BCCI vis a vis Indian Cricket needs to be probed. The Veto power granted to the President of this odious body has essentially ensured that no real introspection into their functioning and a proper selection process is possible.

Srinivasan & Shulka must be sacked for the good of Indian Cricket.

All proceedings of this body should be made public. Because we the fans of Indian Cricket are the ones who support the sport.

There needs to be a rotation policy for players, we should never be dependent on a hand full of players. But rather have a large pool of players, with current performance being the sole criterion for selection.

Harmeet Singh the left arm spinner should have been selected.

Posted by N.SHURESH on (December 16, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

I dont know, why people treat the cricket as a war & unwanted comments on Dharmasena? He was a best cricketer & a banker too.

Posted by N.SHIV on (December 16, 2012, 16:13 GMT)

Umpires dosn't have the replay. Watching a match through TV & live is different. Human makes mistake. This is not the first time happened in cricket & not only to Dharmasena. Best performing team will win & We have to support the cricket. Maintain the sportsmanship.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 16:00 GMT)

indians didnt want DRS and now they r complaining about umpiring errors..... how funny... mind u england also got bad decisions.. more than Indians..

Posted by sundersingh on (December 16, 2012, 15:57 GMT)

I am an Indian team fan ,But we people appreciate the good cricket from any country, WELL DONE!! ENGLAND But dont forget Mumbai Test Was lost due to a bad decision from the umpire ( Remember LBW Decision for cook When Bajii was bowling inbetween last 15 overs) so I Am not making Excuse Of this Bad Series Defeat... But it all went against INDIA Here Comes The LUCK Factor...

Posted by bobmartin on (December 16, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

Surely the result of the game should be dependent upon which team's players makes the least mistakes, not the one which benefits most from umpires' mistakes. So far in this series there has been at least 15 incorrect decisions by the on-field umpires. Personally, and I hope all genuine cricket lovers would agree with me, the simple fact is that had the DRS been in use it is almost 100% certain that all of them would have been eliminated. However I find it ludicrous that the team who, because of its intransigent opposition to the DRS are preventing the opposition from benefitting from it, are the same team who are getting most hot under the collar about on-field umpiring errors. Having seen the unsavoury result of the non-use of the DRS, I hope the ICC will now make it mandatory in all tests, ODI's and T20's played under its auspices.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

@ Sinhaya As a srilankan im totally agree with u about 2nd comment. Luckily he is the one who hold Azardens vital caught and ball in 1996 Eden gardens, unless that i will use all the bad words in the dictionary to cal this man

Posted by wakaPAK on (December 16, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

If you are an Indian, please dont blame umpires; not just because umpires are human and human err (which was true in case of Cook as well in both innings) but also you guys are opposing the DRS... so just zip it. Trott hit Jadeja's no ball for four because it was too much for him; no batsman want to play on a pitch like this especially when Indian captain had demanded that pitch.

Posted by SnowSnake on (December 16, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

India pretty much deserve to lose this series. Coming 1-2 from behind and showing frustration on the 4th and 5th day of the final test does not do any good. They should have played well right from the first day till the end. I am not too convinced that England is any better team either. Cook is an extreme player-- either single digit score or three digits. So is Pitersen. I don't find English bowling convincing either. As bad as India are, they regularly score 300+ against England's bowling. India's tail end gives hard time to English bowlers. Disappointing series. All innings in this test went on at an average of approximately 2 rpo with a draw most likely outcome. Why would any one watch test cricket in a stadium?

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 15:43 GMT)

@ BengalTiger please get a grip on yourself . What about Gambhir catch of Johny which indeed earned India a wicket . Just stop trash talking about England . Come on this is sport not politics . Whats this nonsense talk about banning a team ?The fact is that we played very poor cricket and lost the series . And now rather than looking for excuses we should look at what went wrong ? We batted poorly . Bowled poorly . Fielding in generat was very poor . But this gives a chance to develop a young team for future .

Posted by MANEESHROY on (December 16, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

After a long time,Indians are on a verge of series defeat against ENGLAND.Who is responsible,this is the question everyone is interested in.To me team selectors,cricket coach are main culprits.In test matches specialist bowlers are required. How many new bowlers selectors have tried in last two years? Presently,Indian spinners are bowling very slowly,this gives enough time for batsmen to adjust.Moreover, spinners are not giving enough rotations to ball to spin.What is cricket coach doing ? Team selectors should select a different 'set' of bowlers for test match cricket.This 'set' of bowlers should be excluded from selection in 50 overs or 20 over matches.How long we have to wait for a genuine cricket coach, is another important question. England cricket team was in shambles under Dunken Fletcher.Why was Dunken Fletcher appointed coach of Indian cricket team ? It is fair to say for ENGLAND,that,"MERLIN CAPTURED COUGAR" in 2012.

Posted by Sinhaya on (December 16, 2012, 15:40 GMT)

@GerrardLK, I cannot agree with you more. This game has been 13 versus just 11 for this great England team. Only way India can beat England is when 2 umpires play for India and make howlers against England.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

Tomorrow Dhoni will give big statement that umpiring errors cost India!!!. Then Gavaskar, and Akram (BCCI spokepersons) will blame Duncan Fletcher for this omnishambles, so Fletcher will be kicked out. What is next for Dhoni? Resilient Skpper will lead India to 5-0 ODI win over England. Afterwards BCCI will buy 5-0 bragging right from penniless PCB, and then Dhoni ead to another series lose to Australia. Who will Dhoni make scapegoat after Aussie defeat? Pathan is no more, Zaheer is no more, Bhaji is out, well then it must be some poor curator.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (December 16, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

@akishita29, Totally agree with both your postings, Cook has had 2 very ruff decisions go against him in this match & Pujara dismissal too should never have been given out, both men then showed dignity when they walked. I was very disappointing with Dhoni's reaction to Trott not being given out. Having seen a number replays there is no way Trott was out. Kohli's behavior was even worse & he should be reprimanded, he had no right to even get involved. As for the match, sorry Ind fans but the series is over. Ind needed at least 5 wickets today and then you would have needed to bowl Eng out by lunch at which point Ind would have been chasing around 200 in 60 odd overs. As it is Eng will bat well in to the afternoon and take a well deserved series win.

Posted by UAETigers on (December 16, 2012, 15:32 GMT)

Dharmasena was preferred over Aleem Dar as ICC umpire of the year!! WOW!!! He gave three wrong decisions in one match!! Twice he gave wrong out against player of the series but for indian media it's human error!! Imagine if same could have been given against Tendulkar by same umpire!!!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

No one talks about umpiring errors in recently concluded SA/Aus series because DRS was in use and helped in correcting any bad decisions. It is not fair to judge the umpires in the same way of judging the umpires when DRS is in place. Once a bad decision is corrected through DRS no one will talk about bad umpiring. Hope Indians will wake up now and start accepting DRS. It may not be 100% accurate but no system will be 100% accurate. A system can be improved only through extensive use of it. Hope SRT will eventually vanish from international scene after this series avoiding the humiliation of being dropped. SRT was one of the main opponents of DRS.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:28 GMT)

@Mr. Chadi, have you seen Dharmasena officiating India Vs Lanka ODI matches? Many decision went against Lankans especially of Kohli's and Raina's. Dharma is smart, he wants to be in good books of Dhoni so that he can continue in ICC elite panel

Posted by pr3m on (December 16, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

Kohli did not carry himself well, India inexplicably slowed down, had no passion earlier, was too confrontational here (even though Trott initiated it). Cook was never out since August 2011, Compton wasn't out in the way he was given... oh yeah, Trott was timing the ball as well as anybody. Was Pietersen out? Did Dhoni remove the stump with his hand?

The pitch is killing Test cricket, but the fact that England is playing for a draw means they're on top and are world beaters! C'mon cricinfo, at least one person in your entire organization would have thought for a moment that Kohli's LBW was going down leg... or that Indian spinners got a little purchase, or Kohli did what anybody in England's side would have done. Something? No? OK. Maybe next time when we're playing an Asian side we can expect some non biased articles.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

All of us had seen, quite a few instances of Andy Flower barging into the Match Referee's chamber, triggered by doubtful decisions. The viewers could never hear or know what words were exchanged. But the gestures and facial expressions betrayed, that he was questioning and complaining! On those occasions, no one demanded punishing Andy. Why the double standards now?

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:15 GMT)

A couple of guys, in these columns, commented on Kohli's boorish behavior, and referred to the possibility of such a person taking over India's Captaincy at some point in time. He reminds me of Ricky Ponting. Before he assumed Captaincy, Ponting had openly displayed such behavior, many a time. And, Ricky turned out to be one of the most successful Captains for Oz. So, don't worry about Kohli becoming India's Captain, one day.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 16, 2012, 15:14 GMT)

This is odd cricket in an odd match. Neither side can manage to score at much over 2 an over and the pitch has not deteriorated at all. If MS Dhoni were playing for the win surely he would have declared behind last night: it looks like he simply wants to avoid a 3-1 loss, while England have no reason to risk their series win in a desperate attempt to force a result. And, to make it worse, there seems to be real hostility breaking out between the respective fans as a result of frustraton and sometimes perceived, sometimes all to real slights. How some of these comments get through moderation is beyond me, For the Indian fans who find some of the comments by a few Australian interlopers offensive, you have a series coming up where you can re-but on the field of play, which will be far more convincing. If only you had seen what one of them was posting about his own team a few weeks ago... :-)

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 15:14 GMT)

my first comment due to dhonis behavior today. Clearly he is nothings to loos and he knows he is in trouble .Dhoni knows weight of the $ sack that he had in this year definitely going to be reduce next year . When dhoni is in this mentality any thing could happen

Posted by Mr.Chandi on (December 16, 2012, 15:08 GMT)

I don't know why people are going so hard at Dharmasena. He had a poor match, but he's still better than many out there who r being saved by DRS.The only issue here is that India are a side far far less in quality and integrity than England who have all but won this one.It's time for some major upheavel in our team. Just throwing out Yuvraj and Bhajji to accommodate Dhoni's boys shouldn't do this time.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 16, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

From cricinfo commentary:

"Dhoni has had a stern word with the umpire, wholly inappropriate, Virat Kohli has waded in a well, very disrespectful... "

This was after an appeal for caught behind off Trott rightly turned down by the umpire. I can't believe that some of the Indians could stoop down so low to forcibly win a game of cricket. They are bringing disrepute to the gentleman's game. Oh, I am fully aware that some Indian fans will come up with history lessons on how England did something similar in the past or worse but let's stick to this game and series, shall we?

Posted by MartinC on (December 16, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

It's been a good an interesting series played on good cricket wickets up to this last test. However the umpiring throughout the series has been sub standard against both sides. There is simply no credible argument against the use of DRS - none.

Posted by Sinhaya on (December 16, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

@carroman, you are 100% correct. In July and August this year when India toured Sri Lanka for 5 ODIs, Dharmasena favored India by giving Kohli and Raina not out when they were definitely out. No wonder he got the umpire of the year award all due to BCCI lobbying. Basically India's player of the series is Kumar Dharmasena. It was Dharmasena indeed who broke the opening stand today.

Posted by snookers on (December 16, 2012, 14:45 GMT)

@Andrew - I used to think you were a pretty unbiased writer. Your article today does not seem to reflect that. Sample - As Trott was completely within his rights to do he skipped out and smashed the no-ball to the square-leg fence. India, however, were still festering. Towards the end of the day R Ashwin pulled out of a delivery and warned Trott for backing up too far. It belied the growing frustrations. Pray tell me, isnt what Ashwin was doing also "completely within his rights"? why the difference in your interpretation? we have us fans for doing the job of being biased. Its a shame if you reporters also are the same..

Posted by Sinhaya on (December 16, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

Disgraceful umpire Kumar Dharmasena. How in the world did he get the umpire of the year award? Well it was a Dharmasena special that ended England's opening stand and nothing else. Cook would have score 2 tons in this test match if not for Dharmasena's 3rd grade umpiring. Please remove Dharmasena from the ICC elite umpires panel with immediiate effect. A humble request from a Sri Lankan.

Posted by TheBengalTiger on (December 16, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

What about trot hitting a pea roller for four? disgusting sportsmanship. typical of the English cricketers. they should be banned immediately

Posted by zarasibaat on (December 16, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

Every body is talking about a draw or india's chance of win but... At the end of 4th day play England have a very good chance to win the match and series 3-1. On 5th day England must try to increase the run rate and try to add another 100 runs in 35 overs and let India play minimum 53 overs. This ll b a tough task for India to servive 53 overs on a 5th day pitch and 3-4 wickets before tea ll make it a real good last session. I tell u Jimmy, Monty and Swan ll make life difficult for Indian Batsmen.

Posted by markatnotts on (December 16, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

There seems to be a lot of moaning coming from someone ironically enough called stop_moaning, whilst England just get on with it. Against the odds in this series they have just got in with it and still get accused of whinging by emotional anti English people. Note to said people, don't confuse inaccurate comments from certain English fans as comments from the England squad.

Posted by UglyIndian on (December 16, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

@recycle-bin-is-empty - (60-70%) decisions going against India? Man, you must really think that no one else had been matching the matches but you. Indian players' behaviour was despicable. But its not surprising really, thats how Indians typically behave when they get found out that they're not half as good as they think themselves to be.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 14:22 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy and @R_U_4_REAL_NICK : We are not doing that bad firing on three cylinders with our bowling. Looking forward to the Ashes when all four are tuned up. Oh.. and loved the beating we gave you in the Rugby at Twickenham in front of 70000, sweet joy :).. Bring on the Ashes!!

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

@Lmaotsetung Don't want to take anything away from Cook, he's been great on this tour and did the same in the Ashes but there's been a few series in between and before where he's been pretty average, so I don't see the need to try to knock KP, who did the same as Cook here when we played India at home, where he got a double ton & a 175 against them. How do you explain them both averaging the same if Cook is so more consistent? Really don't see the need to big one up, just to knock the other down, they both do a great job for us in different ways, they play completely differently and we need them both to be successful, I'll take KP winning us games and contributing in the others over him not being there any day.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Actually India is playing 5 spinners, Dharmasena' is that invisible bowler who had given vital break through to team india during the last two test. He looks to be most threatening Indian bowler. If he perform well tomorrow during first session, India may draw the series. Meantime, Dharmasena must have already assured 5 year IPL contract, and next three years's ICC best umpire award.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 16, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

I cannot believe that Indian fans have the gall to still say that England benefitted from the poor umpiring. Our best batsman was wrongly given out *twice* in the same test and they still claim that. I am not saying that India alone benefitted from poor umpiring but both sides have been affected by it. Reading @Suresh Lalvani's comment - I am not sure some people will stoop down this low to find excuses for their teams' defeats. Champion whingers, they say. Anyone who cannot accept defeat gracefully doesn't deserve to call himself a fan of the sport.

Posted by kamiCric on (December 16, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

It is painful to see people talking about Tendulkar this way. They played Kapil until he couldn't bowl and played Kumble for the highest wicket record, what are they playing Tendulkar for?

Posted by Arrow011 on (December 16, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

Sachin should be made Captain & Dhoni should play as keeper. Why is Ashwin who averages 45+ is being played at 8? Ashwin should replace Gambhir on present form. Ashwin earlier was an opener in his junior days, he can score quickly also. Sehwag needs a change of partner too.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

Well done England, nicely finished 4 day, hopefully eng ll ad more 135 total Scores will be 300, than lat them to bat, And they will be all out 263…England will win this Series easily Eng 2-1 ….

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 16, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

Prior to ringing the victory Bell, Cook is Trotting to stuff the Indian Swann along with its Roots ...... lol

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

@SixoverSlips LOL I think it's pretty clear you didn't watch the match if you didn't see the comedy performance from Kholi and Dhoni and even Sharma was trying to get in on the act, I thought at any moment Dhoni was going to chuck his toys out of the pram, start crying and take his team off the pitch.

Posted by JavedKhanAfridi on (December 16, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

This test seems to be heading towards a draw with England winning the series very convincingly. India's batting, bowling and fielding were all of inferior quality and England deserved to win.

Posted by stormy16 on (December 16, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

India can still do this but need something special with the ball and then of course bat - something they have stuggled to do even on flat tracks in 3 tests! Eng probably need to bat to lunch make the series safe. India should have declared overnight but such is the confusion in the mind I guess. IN my mind Eng can and deserve to see off the day and take the series tomorrow and for India to even get a look in, will be a miracle.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

Cook was reprieved early in both innings of the first test. Following his reprieve he got a big score in the second innings. That gave Cook confidence for tests two, three & four,

Pujara was wrongly given out in the first innings of the current test.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (December 16, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

Good to see Trott finally coming out of the doldrums and making consistent contributions. Hopefully he will complete a ton in the morning. Conversations in the comm box about the series of 81-2 conjure up images of the sort of tedium this wicket engenders. Thank god this moribund piece of turf has only come at the end of the series-cricket is not really meant for these tortures. They just need a good plough for it. 2 runs and over over time is not good for the game though it does last 5 days. I do not think India deserve any praise for their cynical disregard of the game in the first hour. Stupid!!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:52 GMT)

I am not sure about Harshani Pereira's study of the game: 250 runs in 40 overs on this wicket- not possible. Forget Sehwag, not even with Viv Richards. You have not taken into account the nature of the wicket; and that is not an error in judgment, it is plain ignorance. If it does happen and you are proved right it will be an anomaly and not foresight.

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (December 16, 2012, 13:51 GMT)

One more thing i forgot to mention is the scoring rate. That is just one big lol every time i think about it. Also, tomm might be the last day for International Cricket Career of Sachin Tendulkar, my hunch says he is going to take retirement after this test. I know, for a lot of new fans, Tendulkar is always an enigma and they seem to cant understand " why he is rated so highly ?? why he is so popular ??", well the real legacy of Tendulkar lies in the decade of 90s but thats just for another time. Gentleman like him dont come to cricket everyday!!

Posted by matchfixerpkn on (December 16, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

congradulaton england..yoiu deserve to win.. and also bad character by indain sad.. but defiently paksitani fans have no right to point fingers at other when they are much worse for decades in character and in behavior in field and in out fileld..

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:49 GMT)

A 2-1 result would be a correct reflection of the way things have gone in this series. Hopefully it will break India's overconfidence regarding its invincibility at home and will act as a kick in the you-know-where. Of course, many of us Indian fans would have preferred a much harder kick that a 3-1 result would have ensured.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

Harshani Pereria sorry for being inquisitive kindly let me know if you are seeing someother than match than the one we are watching on a track wherein the average rpo is 2 and less your talking about get 6+ an over n predicting a india win

Posted by Trickstar on (December 16, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

I read somewhere this afternoon that it's 14 wrong calls against England and 6 to India, so if Indian fans think they've had the rough end of the stick they're wrong it's a one eyed. It's been hilarious reading all the messages, I've never heard as many whinging bitter nutty losers since the Aussies lost the Ashes in 09, keep it up boys.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

Dhoni , Kholi please be good enough to show that you guys are gentlemens. " whole world is watching you mate "

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

india not in the game and they are definitely looser

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

The series is all but over now . Dhonis captaincy ic so bad in test matches that he must quit as captain and, though he scored a 99 he should not be retained for his unsportsmanli Behaviour.. Give Gambhir a chance against Australia

Ashwin also is captaincy material and he should be equated with kohli for the post.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

No quest for quick runs by Indian tail and then a pain in the shape of Cook's 15 off 90 odd balls. What a crappy end to a fantastic series. Safety first is fine but hello... the Eng batsmen were playing like scoring runs isnt part of the game anymore. They cud have got some enterprising and showed some zeal to beat India a third time. And for India, come on u have to win this to save the series and some face. Defensive batting and lifeless bowling. Disappointing from a neutral observer's point of view. (Adnan from Pak)

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 16, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

England deserves to win this series. It should go 2-1 in England's favor. This defeat might finally prompt Indian Board to take some decisions - Tendulkar, Sehwag, and Ishant Sharma are simply not international class players. DROP ALL 3 OF THEM RIGHT NOW. Need of the hour is to bring in some new blood - Rahane, Badri, Rohit, Mandeep among batsmen, and Sandeep Sharma, Mohit Sharma, Shami Ahmed Rishis Dhawan, and Awana amongst the bowlers. Don't listen to hero worshipping Indian fans. Even they have gone into hiding after abysmal performance of their heroes - Sachin and Sehwag.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

Bad decisions - regardless of who they go in the favor of - should not be allowed. Its terrible for the players who put in their best. Its terrible for morale. Technology is here. Its proven. Lets use it.

Posted by big_al_81 on (December 16, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

Come on folks, don't get wound up by jonesy2 - just enjoy the fact that he's obsessed with England. There was a time when Aussies didn't need to bother. Now they can't beat us anywhere in the world and pay us compliments by having to say silly things because they can't beat the top teams even in Oz, let alone away - it's like having an annoying little brother who says daft things to try and wind you up because he wants his 'cool' older brother to notice him. Back to the real world of this series, I don't normally have a problem with teams getting wound up with decisions going against them but India simply don't have a leg to stand on. Either you want to help the umpires or you don't. Surely they've had a good day as they've got the highest run-scorer of the series out twice in the match without getting him out once! Use at least some part of the DRS system or stop moaning about umpiring decisions.

Posted by stop_moaning on (December 16, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

trott claiming a catch when the ball was already grounded. cook claiming that the ball hit his boot and was caught by his teammate and pretending to be in pain, jimmy anderson standing just bang in middle of the pitch when the batsman are running, stuart broad defacing the pitch while going back to the pavilion, trott hitting a dead ball - all perfect examples of keeping up the spirit of the game, nah!! just being cheeky.

Posted by Bobby_Talyarkhan on (December 16, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

Gr8 2 c us being humiliated at home. Only thing that can shake our cricket establishment out of the complacent, self-satisfied and smug rut they have got themselves into. Hope England get a 300 lead and then bowl India out on a wearing pitch. Childish behaviour from the Indians - you expect it from Ishant, Kohli and Ashwin but Dhoni too is now showing how much pressure he is under. Hope Rahane gets an outing next time. Time for wholesale selection changes and, more importantly, long term structural changes. It is too late to avoid another humiliation against the Aussies - that is bound to happen as our batsmen and spinners are simply not good enough - but hopefully long term thinking can kick in now in preparation for arduous touring in a year's time.

Posted by Herath-UK on (December 16, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

England would definitely celebrate a series win come tomorrow and hope Anderson is the MOS. No Indian batter could emulate Dilshan's in their own backyard and their batting is in series decline.Kohli should show character worthy of a future leader. Ranil Herath - Kent

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

Dhoni will recommend Dharmsena to BCCI for ICC Umpire of the year 2012-2013 award for Dharmasena's contribution to team India during this series.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

In all possiblity this will be a draw. But India have an outside chance if the plot an England collapse on 1st session. Still only one man can save India with the bat- sehwag. If he clicks, India can chase anything at4 rpo

Posted by PointFielder on (December 16, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

I hope that England collapse in first session tomorrow. India will have to approach it like a ODI match while chasing to go for a win.

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (December 16, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

Well, i am not going to defend the actions of Dhoni Sharma n co against the umpires, but lets all be fair now. Poor umpiring decisions hav been a part of this series right from the first match, with most of the decisions (almost about 60-70%) going against India. Just because India opposes DRS doesnt mean they have not any right to object the wrong decisions (though decision of Trott was correct, but Dhoni and co thought otherwise, and given the pressure and circumstances, openly showed their resentment)

Coming to the match itself, England played really well, i also liked that Indian team openly showed a lot of emotions and desperation, atleast that might be the first time in the series when we are REALLY trying to win :).

Posted by SixoverSlips on (December 16, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

More nationalistic jingoism from McGrashan. Kohli did not carry himself well as a future captain, really? What a pity! India show the frustration? Where? I watched the whole match. I didn't see anything like it.

Snickometer did not show any noise? How lame? Is that your conclusive proof? Remember the last time when India toured England, snicko did not show any noise when there was a edge, showed some noise when the ball was miles away, hot spot did not show any spot when there was an edge?

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 16, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

@wikkey-pedia But england produces the most flat wickets. Even Dale steyn and Morkel struggled. In this series , barring 3 sessioins wickets went down in every session. HYPOCRITE! you are.

Posted by ICC-IndianCricketCouncil on (December 16, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

If match referee doesn't fine dhobi and kholi than its pretty obvious ICC is on bcci payroll and don't want to discipline masters brats. Disgusting to say the least.

Posted by simpleguy2008 on (December 16, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

Now i think Dhoni should go for UDRS system coz its now Pakistan and Aussie so go for the UDRS

Posted by VivSingh on (December 16, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

It's hard to accept an attitude of moral high ground coming from English and Australian fans. England with a history of being the world's greatest whingers and then the loud mouthed Australians. You moaned about the "rank turner" in the first Test (which wasn't even a rank turner) but you didn't complain about the subsequent turner because Monty and Swann dominated. If you want recent examples of goodwill remember last year at Trent Bridge and Ian Bell. Remember Australians repeatedly claiming catches were either obviously grounded or bounced several inches in front of them (Ponting, Clarke, Hughes). Alternatively, how about you just enjoy the fact that the England team has totally outplayed India in India?

Posted by simpleguy2008 on (December 16, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

still hope for the best if India gets all 7 wickets before lunch with the target 250

Posted by stop_moaning on (December 16, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

Stop ALL flatulent moaning about India/BCCI not in faviour of the DRS. The Poms cried and cried when DRS did not go their way. The Bully in KP was really fearful for get DRS'ed out and had to change his awkward stance. Poor decisions even when a review system is available is what has kept India away from accepting it. Also, most english supporters think that the spirit of the game applies to only the opposition and not their team. Whoever is moaning about Ashiwn warning trott when he was out of his crease need to remember that it is the same troot who claimed a catch when he picked up the ball from the ground and hit the dead ball today, so trott was cheeky but Ashwin was disgraceful, yeah right!!. Dhoni has EVERY right to be angry when a decision is not given as has james anderson. So, be in you shoes.

Posted by carroman on (December 16, 2012, 13:16 GMT)

I'm very much English and have been closely watching this series and I'm glad the way England had been getting about their business! But what is most shocking is to witness the horrendous umpiring from the worlds No. ranked umpire Kumar Dharmasena. It looks very obvious that he had been bought over by the BCCI. WHY? because I see him in several other games too supporting India either while they are batting or bowling! even against Sri Lanka you can see him fancy the Indians! correct me If I am wrong! I know all umpires are human and subject to make errors but not this kind of errors, see how he judged Cook in both innings! even if I was umpiring I would've turned down the appeal but he was quick in lifting that lethal finger of his. ICC should look into this kind of decisions the empires make and scan them for match fixing too! Please publish and let the truth come to light! Thank you!

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 16, 2012, 13:16 GMT)

Ah, at long last, I understand why India won't allow the DRS! Not using the technology, even without Hawk-eye, gives scope for grumbling & unbecoming on-field controversy. Does anyone think that this does anything for the image of the game, yet the Indian captain & the likely next captain, Kohli, take the opportunity of eyeballing the officials for not giving the 'correct' decisions. There is not an elite umpire in the world who would not support the use of DRS, but what can India know of umpiring at the highest level? Nothing at all, because there is not one single Indian umpire on the elite panel! You (the BCCI) are beginning to look very silly, absolutely reactionary & with no credible argument left, but when did you ever listen to sense, or accept scientific fact? Remember, BELIEVING it's not good enough is no argument, because beliefs are not susceptible to scientific proof. They belong to the spiritual world; the rest of us live in the real one. Pls publish!

Posted by Herath-UK on (December 16, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

England would definitely celebrate a series win come tomorrow and hope Anderson is the MOS. No Indian batter could emulate Dilshan's in their own backyard and their batting is in series decline.Kohli should show character worthy of a future leader. Ranil Herath - Kent

Posted by pmcricket on (December 16, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

what a biased article..on so many counts...Trott certainly wasnt sportsmanlike when he hit a ball that clearly slipped ..if you are going to excuse that can you call Aswhin's warning to Trott..unsportsmanlke..also talking of bad many more have gone against India in this series..starting with Cook not given out lbw in mumbai in the 1st innings when he was 80 odd..that was a potentailly series changing one..and then again this afternoon an Lbw appeal against trott was ump dhramasena..the ball had hit his pad first..England is winning the series but it doesnt make all there stuff right..regard DRS ..bcci is as much within its right not to use it as ecb is in its right to agree to ist please stop granstanding..this series is far from over lets us see how Englad do in the t20s and 1 dayers..go india

Posted by Paarijaat on (December 16, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

As for reacting on bad decisions is concerned or in case of any wrong umpiring against Englishmen is concerned I think we cannot forget the umpiring decisions against India during their tour of Australia in 2008-09 or last year's tour to England. Then as for feeling ashamed of there behavior, how can we forget the treatment they get in Oz land or England, or last year's Bell fiasco in India itself when he got run-out in a test match. Yes, its true Indian team is not playing well, n they r loosing their temperament too, but its nothing to be ashamed of considering the fact that counterparts are much better in giving wrong gestures.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

It might be a little too early to comment; but MS' options with the ball is widened with Jadeja as part of the squad; and he's done a fair job to be honest, he's justified his selection as an all-rounder ahead of Rahane with the ball so far nevertheless he needs to do the same with the bat. And when it comes to setting fields for the Indian side; most of us seem to be questioning why MS doesn't set a field comprising close in fielders when the spinners are bowling as compared to the english when their spinners bowl. The English spinners (barring Patel) bowl a quite tight & consistent line & length with occasional bad balls; whereas we on the other side provide boundary balls almost every over; I'd rather give a single than let the batsman get boundaries every over; but despite the field settings for bad bowling; they do manage to score boundaries.

Posted by ibbani on (December 16, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Poor cricket from India compared to any standards they played at home till now. Application is the jkey which England did and India did not and that made them to bite this situation. They were complacent. Kick out Zak until he is in form. Bring genuine pacers like Aaron and some new faces. Sachin must go before he is pushed in all sorts. a new looked Indian team should be fit to face Aussies to show them the real fight.

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 16, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

JG2704-Good call about umpiring, its sad that there is no DRS as level of umpiring has been very poor in this series.If DRS was there Eng would have still outplayed India in same way as they are much better test team currently but at-least this series would have been without all those controversial decisions which you mentioned.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Sky viewers please press the red button to hear... "Jingoistic illogical one sided nonsense".The counter intuitive rantings of self obsessed "has beens" like Gavaskar saying that the bad decisions the umpires are making are "Good for the game" and "Making it interesting" and the phrase "England under real pressure" those exact 4 words every 2 or 3 minutes. You could base a drinking game on it - a swig of a pint for every time one of the Indian comentators says it.. or "Dhoni adding to England pressure" for a shot or brandy. Then you look at the screen, see the scorecard and realise IT'S NOT EVEN TRUE. INDIA ARE UNDER PRESSURE. India odds on favourites to win this series. Even English fans thought England would lose this series while Indian fans though England would be destroyed. England about to WIN 2-1 or maybe 3-1 and "England under real pressure" Is Gavaskar watching a different game? Or should someone just cart him off to the funny farm right now.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

True!!! Agreed! These Indians,gosh,bless them....They always want every decision in their favor. Look at their Appeal for any dismissal or even for nothing. They just want to pressurize umpires and sometimes those umpired do fall into the trap.......

Posted by bMike on (December 16, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

DRS in unacceptable to BCCI. What they think is umpire has the final authority and that they need to inform their Players as well, See Cook who never mock or even glare at umpire although he was twice not out!! Poor Indians showing their true color!

Posted by rohanbala on (December 16, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

The ICC needs to review the performance of umpires in its elite panel like Kumara Dharmasena whose decisions have been shocking. I wish Dharmasena is giving a proper break from umpiring duties for a specific time frame and asked to officiate in club matches. Rod Tucker also shares the limelight in giving horrendous decisions in this series.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

Guy dont be disappointed this Harsha is always like this, some time his comentry is away from the match ,he will start talking somehting un acceptable but he is the beauty of the indian comentators, they like this way any way good luck to englishmen and hope they will win the series.

Posted by HaKuNaMa_TaTa on (December 16, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

I thought the Indian players were doing some "nautanki" (drama) to distract Trott, Umps and viewers. After getting so many favorable decisions from Umps during the series, it seemed like they wanted to leave an opposite impression in the end!

Posted by farhanamjadpk on (December 16, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

Well Done ENGLAND!! England won over two opponents Team India and Umpires, who were constantly helping India by making pathetic decisions. Team India cannot complaint over it as they r against DRS... Its the high time that ICC make DRS compulsory for the test matches.. If BCCI doesnt agree... they shud b limited to their IPL! A self acclaimed league doing nothing for the game and also for the Indian Team...

Posted by -Johny- on (December 16, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

England played really well, a change in captainship is very much needed

Posted by Ankush_J on (December 16, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

Come on guyz,dont make silly comments on indian players,they are known for their gud behaviour on field,first check your ex players/commentators and your so called great england players behaviours..shame on you..

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 16, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Most of the senior players of Eng took the responsibility and contributed , while for India all senior players were terribly out of form,no wonder Eng outplayed India in this series.Lack of self acceptability after that 8-0 thrashing resulted into this home series loss which looks certain now.Tough time if you are an Indian fan and i hope things will change for good.Laxman was forced into retirement and then Raina played in place of him in NZ series ,then Yuvi now Sir Ravindra Jadeja,test cricket has become a joke in India .

Posted by crindex on (December 16, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

This series has brought out many issues with India team . 1. Old batting order is gone and new batting blood has to be infused 2. India's strength - spin attack seems toothless. It needs reinforcement 3. BCCI should reconsider using DRS. With all the above issues on hand Dhoni alone cannot be blamed. Captain is only as effective as the team.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

Need to know why umpires are behaving indifferently towards England, it's IPL boss....

Posted by da_man_ on (December 16, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

Indian fans usually lament the death of sportsmanship in the Aussie camp, this is a new low for them. Especially after they won over fans with the whole Ian stupid Bell thing in England. I think it was out of frustration of the situation and pitch state more than anything else.

Posted by SriSanka on (December 16, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

How lucky MSD is he would say Ind could have win this match and level the series if Umpires decisions were correct.......he has all sort of excuses for failures......Tendulkar also showed what he is capable of now..... minnow Indian team showed again that they are not good enough to have ICC Test States....not only playing poor test cricket but also behaving like thugs in the cricket field.......

Posted by SurlyCynic on (December 16, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

Sad to see the bad behaviour from Kohli and Dhoni. They set an example for millions of cricket fans.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

A wonderful match. A great contest. Love the battle between the ball and the bat. It is a great joy to see the batsman fighting it out (first Kohli & Dhone and later the englishmen). One comment missgiving though.... I always thought Kumar Dharmasena was a Sirilankan player. Some how I missed it when he changed his nationality/allegiance to India. Seriously.... It is a shame that umpiring has stooped so low. I am more surperised about Kumar Dharmasena the ICC umpire of the Year. Either the ppl in ICC are blind or has ulerier motives or the poor chap is losing his eyesight.

Posted by Kulaputra on (December 16, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

The blowup with umpires was absolutely uncalled for and must be punished.

Posted by balajit on (December 16, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

It's almost game over for India. This match almost likely to end in draw unless England collapse tomorrow morning highly unlikely. England deserve to win the series because they have been the better team. Umpiring at times has been erratic & both teams affected by howlers.

Defeat in this series might be good for India, so that it might allow them do thinking on various factors affecting the team. But will BCCI listen! Mr Srinivasan will you act?

Posted by indianpunter on (December 16, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

BCCI bullies all and sundry outside the cricket field. The indian players do it on the pitch. Kohli, touted to be the future indian captain , has been guilty of intimidating the umpires more than once. It doesnt augur well at all. To the english cricket fans- it is their frustration that boiled over- they know well and truly that their game's up. Bravo england. and thank you ! from an Indian cricket fan. we needed this kick up the proverbial. At least now, the denial will end. Or will it?

Posted by countjimmoriarty on (December 16, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Head of BCCI says that umpires decision is final . Perhaps he should tell that to his players.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

It took some time to find this out but what a tour they have......

Some memories from the past a comment from my dear Indian fan after England white wash in UAE

"Even before this series started, I had predicted that Pakistan would win 3-0. My prediction was correct, and England helped. I thought they would at least win the second Test but they collapsed to 72 all out. I am already dreaming when England come to India this year..... I can smell a whitewash!!!"

Link is down below fro reference...

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

What a terrible pitch for cricket. This dead pitch will kill test cricket, and when India lose the series they can say "Oh we don't really like test cricket anyway - look how dull it is". India - the spoilt brats of International cricket! As for the play today. Umpires routinely awful. Cooke triggered twice (the fact that England are doing so well despite the guy who is EASILY their best batsman getting two terrible decisions says something for how poor India are) I remember Michael Slater doing that to a no ball in the 1993 Ashes series. I've seen it a few times. If I was England I would try and score another 140 runs in 1 and a half sessions or so - then declare with Indian needing 300 in say 40 overs. 6 of the 9 fielders around the bat, slip, leg slip, 2 short legs short cover and silly point - and if they get to 150 quickly then just "shut up shop" and have 6 men on the fence and 3 saving one on the off side and bowl wide just outside off as slowly as possible to kill it off.

Posted by Fogu on (December 16, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

It is sad to see the state of affairs of Indian cricket. Acting out like spoilt brats. With BCCI becoming stronger and richer, India is taking steps backwards. Anti-DRS, whiny captain and losing test series even when major umpiring errors went in their favour. Dhoni is a poor captain and Kohli behaves like a spoilt kid. I would take players like Misbah and Sammie as a captain any day. They are real leaders who have done great service to their respective country by stabilising their teams.

Posted by TheBengalTiger on (December 16, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

I love how when Australia and England behave badly, its al; 'playing the game hard'. But when India do it, its all about how bad India are. Typical

Posted by jimbond on (December 16, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

This seems to confirm what I always thought- that Kohli and Gambhir and Ashwin are not suited for leadership roles. However the Poms seem to protest too much. BCCI needs to think of DRS sooner than later, but if you hear the Poms you feel that they have been at the receiving end alwaysThey have players - who have played out of their skin for the last couple of years, but soon they would come to their true level against good attacks. The great thing for all phony batsmen is that there are only a few real bowlers around.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Umpire Dharmasena in this Match twice gave incorrect decision against the most prolific English Batsman, Cook. He should be banished from Umpiring. As far as Indian players and Captain attitude is concerned, I would describe with one word, 'despicable'.

Posted by disco_bob on (December 16, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

A generally very poor showing from India, in this and the two previous matches. There's be a few tears and introspection when this is over. Well done to England. See you next year in the Old Dart with the new look Hughesy and the stylish Khawaja.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

England are playing against 12 players! The frequent wrong decisions of Umpires proved the necessity of referral method.

Posted by Metro-ant on (December 16, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

I find it quite bewildering that Indian supporters are critical of the umpires when their board is clearly against DRS. DRS brought justice to the team that won in the Proteas tour Down Under this year when Faf was given out but then saved as well as Smith. The umpires are very open to admit their mistakes, they hate howlers but the BCCI's mentality is when someone must be to blame for their team's losses, it must be a human not technology.

Posted by RK.Chandru on (December 16, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

Transition period! This was always on the cards and it was bound to happen. After the retirement call of Tendulkar after this match, there'll be another replacement and all these Pujaras, Kohlis, etc., have to prove themselves under all playing conditions. Till then, we have no option but to wait. We can only pray that, the deserved get the opportunities and prove themselves sooner...

Posted by statsindia on (December 16, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

From 2011 we are not performing well and the main reason is we ourself. We talk about star cricketers and see them like gods. If our stars hits an hundred he is sure he is secure for another 4-5 years and can survive with that. From 2011 till date Sachin average is 35 from 32 Innings, Gambhir average is 31 from 30 innings, Sehwag is 29 from 30 Innings, Dravid has the highest average of 46 from 27 Innings, Laxman 35 from 26 Innings, Dhoni 30 from 31 Innings, Kohli 38 from 23 Innings, Pujara has average of 72 from 9 innings.Yuvraj & Raina has only 26 & 24 respectively. I am shocked earlier some suggested Sehwag to be captain when he has the lowest average. Youngsters had performed well. So if India needs to improve remove these star and God Cricketers.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

India have no business complaining about umpiring decision.It was MSD who said we have trust umpires and support them with decision making and not support DRS.Umpires are human they make mistakes.Umpire howlers cost England more and due to non availabilty of DRS.Cook dismissal twice in this match Both crompton and monty got clear inside edge to pad and given lbw.For all those who will pound on my comments let me remind I am a Indian myself but we gotta to be fair Dravid dismissal he didnt refer he relied on sachin's judgement if he nicked it so dont confuse urself

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (December 16, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@jonesy2: as I said to RandyOZ yesterday, it's amazing how you guys spend more time commenting here on the England threads than your own Aus. ones. Bad case of the green-eyes me thinks...

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@ ansarjsa Session time would be main thing on the last day not the run scored by England..even though they would make 190 after lunch..can India chase it down by the stumps...test cricket is all about time.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

Guys, don't get carried away. Its okay to lose at home these days. Australia lost twice to SA in recent times, SA lost to Australia, England lost to SA, and they all did it at home and in Test series. We're just not use to losing at home goes at home we're a stronger side, but times have changed, England was just a better performer all around in this series.

Posted by henchart on (December 16, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

Ideally,MSD should be sacked and old man forced to quit .But,neither of the two is going to happen.Couple of myopic wins in next few slam bang games and everything would be forgotten and worse ,forgiven.Public memory,they say,is very short.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

How can warning an erring batsman who was backing up too far constitute a sign of frustration? At least he did not claim a bumped catch without any shame as Trott did in the first test and then lecture on the spirit of the game as Englishmen routinely do! DRS making life difficult for India! Really? Majority of close LBW decisions which went against Indian bowlers throughout the series would count for nothing? Sometimes when you carry needless baggage, everything ll be coloured.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

I think dhoni didnt want to ball at fresh english legs, thats why he tried to bat one hour early morning ( he took a gamble whether it works or not )

Posted by shrastogi on (December 16, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

India wont win this one until unless there is an improbable England collapse on fifth day morning. So far on first four days 817 runs (averaging 204 per day) hvae been scored and its the final day tomorrow. Thre is a strong likelyhood of a team losing wickets in a heap if they try to force pace. So most likely result is a draw until unless either team meekly surrender. One would have liked India to win the toss here as well and show some character with bat. Some bad luck with inform Pujara has caused havoc with Indian batting. When you have young players results may not be of your liking immediately. If Indians had shown application like Dhoni & Kohli in this test in the last two tests the result would have been different. But a touch overconfidence and desire to win 4-0 on tailor made tracks without assesing their own strengths and weaknesses has been India's undoing. I'm not happy with Fletcher either. He doesnt seem to be doing homework.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

India playing like a minnows on this test series although they prepared the pitch considering their capabilities :) they should give their effort to play better in ground rather concentrate on favourable pitch.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

why dhoni did not give more for chawla he took 4 wicket in first innings. dhoni why wasting time and declare without any lead

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

To me, india still in the match . My prediction is india will need 250 from 40 overs which is gettable

Posted by Nilesh_T on (December 16, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

Series is done and dusted for India,forget the fifth day. let the postmortem begin. Dhoni - 0-4 vEng, 0-4 v Australia,1-2 v Eng series loss on home pitches, total of 10 test losses. What more required to remove him from captaincy ? Gambhir- totally selfish player, Sehwag has redefined the term 'casual approach', SRT - over the hill, and that man Duncan total-failure Fletcher. Remove these 4 straightaway and then think of rebuilding side. I-P-L ,root cause of all evil in Indian cricket. Pujara can be still given a few more chances but he far far from even a shadow of the great Dravid. Kohli ,Ashwin and Ojha passable. In short, Gambhir,Sehwag,Dhoni,SRT,Yuvraj,Zaheer,Harbhajan & Fletcher should be given a one way ticket out of the Indian dressing room for good.Enough of humiliation for the loyal Indian fan.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

a truly disgraceful act by india....... arguing with the umpires...over a decision which wasn't even out. england have been on the receiving end of pathetic umpiring errors and yet they do not complain. indian team just can't stand the fact that the only way they can pick up wickets is by bad decisions. im sure icc wont reprimand them since they are the bunnies of BCCI

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 16, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

Just love Rahul Dravid, a true gent. The explanation of the 2 incidents regarding Trott hitting an AB Border shot to the boundary and Ashwins warning to Troll was beautiful, "Both incidents are within the laws of the game but both are against the spirit of the game".

Dravid is so balanced, I have never herd him giving bias comments, may be the former "little master" and the speco guy who has newly grown hair should take a leaf out of Dravids book.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

if drs is there trot and bell will be out by now. india also lost many chances due to poor umpiring.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Indian test team is full of jokes and frustrated players... They should be rather ashamed of themselves... Indian test team is a real joke... and as Virendar Sehwag would have put it... "They are worse than Bangladesh"

Posted by RK.Chandru on (December 16, 2012, 11:53 GMT)

Why is Dhoni scared to set an attacking field and find more wickets? It shows his lack of confidence in our batting line up. What if the opposition scores more and sets a challenging target as our famed batsmen may once again fall like ninepins by the wayside. It's because of this lack of faith on Indian batsmen, the bowlers suffer and have no option but to bowl defensive rather than attacking. Whoever blames the bowlers and conveniently forgets the batsmen's lapses need to remember this before faulting the bowlers. Again, umpiring is below par and the umpires always seem to be in doubt on if the ball hit the pad first or the bat.

Posted by Tamimfan on (December 16, 2012, 11:53 GMT)

@Richard Bloomfield... most poor decisions in the series have gone in favour of england.. dont show hypocrisy.. - from a pakistani fan

Posted by pom_don on (December 16, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

Disgusting display of 'non-sportsmanship' by the Indians I didn't see Cook jumping up & down for being given out wrongly twice on the trott & JT wasn't out anyway as shown on replay, I hope Kohli & Dhoni are taken to task by the match referee & hit where it their wallets. I think it is getting close to a card system as used in football, that would soon sort things out a red card & the player is off for the rest of the match,might calm some of this disrespect shown to the umpires. DRS should also be compulsory if you don't accept it....don't play!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

A draw seems a fair result for all concerned.India will be happy at having avoided a str8 3rd defeat, England will happy with a series win. DHoni and Tendulkar,Sehwag Gambhir will live on for another series and BCCI will effectively kill Test Match cricket with such dead pitches!

Posted by reality_check27 on (December 16, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

@nthuq now u have a problem with my sentence construction let me tell you i have worked for barclays bank in england for 3 years so that tells you my english is good and here its is all about just saying what i have to say not trying to write a poem that it has to ryhme or writing and essay so sentence construction does not count mate and it will be good if u stick to talking about cricket

Posted by Dazako on (December 16, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

This game was never going to amount to anything but a draw, From the get go England came out and batted defensively and took far too long to get runs. Then India came out with no intention of winning and did the same. It was day four before the second innings even started. Not a single player has a strike rate over 50 and this is a flat dead wicket. Both teams have spat the dummy at the umpires for one reason or another, when they should be concentrating on winning the match. Anyone looking for entertainment and what real test cricket is about should be watching the other Test match being played at the moment where there is likely to be a result unless rain puts a stop to it.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

@Richard Bloomfield that is ridiculous can u even imagine the pressure on these guys to win...they have played fair cricket throughout the match.who wudnt be disappointed when they dont get desired results.if ur players do so its intensity and emotion if our players do it becomes shameful !! u know what u shld be ashamed of the catch that trott claimed in the first match picking the ball of the ground.

Posted by garibaldi on (December 16, 2012, 11:38 GMT)

If the Indian team doesn't want DRS, they have to accept the umpire's decision even if they don't like it. The aggressive bullying of umpire and batsman when Trott was given not out today were disgraceful, and all the more so given the BCCI's moralising stance on DRS - saying that the umpire's decision must be final!

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 16, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Here is another outcome, If I'm Cook, I will be very smart here ..... IF Eng can get a lead of about 250 by tea (another 90 runs in 2 sessions) it gives Ind to chase the target in about 30 overs (Required run rate of about 8 runs an over)

NOW THEN, INDIA HAS TO GO FOR THE WIN with so much at stake (series, so many careers, Captain, BCCI heads to roll, etc,) so Ind cant go for a draw and a 2-1 or 3-1 Indian loss doesn't matter at this stage, its a win-win-win at all cost and if Ind manage it, great in that particular pitch under the circumstance to draw the series 2-2 BUT then this gives every opportunity for Eng to win 3-1 also!!

IF Ind lose, the inevitable shall take its process and the rest as they say will be sad history for some players where BCCI must take the full blunt of the scoreline.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:34 GMT)

now I am agree why dhoni refusinG to proceed DRS System.

are you agree dear? weL dharmesane for ur bLind judgement both inninGs to the man who smashed 3 hundred in three matches continually. regards from srilanka

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (December 16, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

ADELAIDE 2006!!! There is still hope! Don't give up Indian fans. You got Ishant McGrath and Shane Chalwa! You can dooooo it!

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

@reality check27 those were close decisions which could go either way . They were not howlers . In the case of Kallis it was a poor decision due to an incompetent third umpire . But in the same series at least 7 other wrong decisions were corrected by DRS. U failed to mention them . An perfect example would be How Faf du plesis was given out twice wrongly in that last test against Australia and he was revived By DRS to play such a great innings . Hundreads of wrong decisions have been corrected by DRS. In UAE England lost due to DRS many decisions went against them. As umpires were giving lbw decisions even when ball was touching thin outside edge on as DRS backs the on field umpire. But evem after losing a series totally due to DRS, England is supporting DRS . I am an hardcore Indian fan and I really want to see DRS . As for English Fans " why dont you guys just chill and enjoy the series win. And No DRS helped your batsman too as with DRS and low pitches its difficult to use pads with confidence . No Drs would have defintely helped Kp in his footwork . He was really troubled by DRS in UAE."

Posted by baskar_guha on (December 16, 2012, 11:27 GMT)

@Richard Bloomfield - Typical English view which frankly is getting old: (1) Force DRS down India's throat even though no independent analysis has been completed on its accuracy. (2) The natives have to play cricket "properly" -- accept decisions and move on. I have seen many English bowlers speak to umps about LBWs not given but perhaps they are "native" enough.

Posted by deol84 on (December 16, 2012, 11:27 GMT)

well icc should made drs manadatory for all cricket playing nations but leave india alone,england should've be able to use the drs in this series,let the bcci stick with their morals loosers.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 11:27 GMT)

@EdwardTLogan on (December 16 2012, 10:05 AM GMT). Said "Can't believe how poor India's fielding has been in this match. Tendulkar, Sharma and Sehwag are liabilities ...'

Tendulkar & Sehwag have become HUGE liabilities for India, IN EVERY WAY , for quite some time. Can't score runs. Misfields. Not bowling any more. Only thing, you two are doing is blocking the entry of guys of the calibre of a Root, or Pujara.

Long overdue to replace BOTH. Bye, Bye guys; you two had given us so much of pleasure, for so many years. Thank you both for that. But all good things have to end one day. And, that day has come and gone long ago. Sorry, that you can't her the bell's toll!

Posted by RAV_FIGHTER on (December 16, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

@Richard Bloomfield:- not to forget once again about DRS(which somebody had already mentioned).Dravid was incorrectly given out through this technological flaw system known as DRS and that happened 3 times in your own its all rubbish. Yes agree its England's luck that india is not doing much due to the fact they are going through transition.. but they will come back for sure..i still believe in them.

Posted by swat1999 on (December 16, 2012, 11:22 GMT)

MS Dhoni believe that 1-0 is better than 2-0, Seems his captaincy is very ordinary, all the plot has been failed. I think he accept the series loose mentaly

Posted by markatnotts on (December 16, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

Although the Cook decision wasn't right, it has been rambled on about too much on here. Also forgetting Pujaras misfortune. And also earlier, although it hasn't been picked up on, Trott may well have been given out with DRS off I think Chawla as he edged it after the ball hit pad. Swings and roundabouts. I would prefer the DRS, but well we don't have it, but hopefully England will bat watchfuly again in the morning.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (December 16, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

Being 2-1 up, I've enjoyed watching this grind it out, slow death, administering last rite to India sorta match. I was hoping for a 600 plays 600 kind of match but this will do just fine. Looking forward to the Warwickshire lads to bring it home tomorrow. I've always said...KP was good for one big inning and we won't see him again til the Ashes. Give me 11 A. Cooks everyday of the week. Btw disgusting behavior from Indian captain and future captain. I wish BCCI would hand over the captaincy to Kohli already cause he looks to come from the same whining and excuses school as MS Dhoni except he's more volatile than Dhoni. Would be fun watching him guide a sinking ship.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 16, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

@ richardror ->It's because team India is so frustrated right now.All they wanted was a sweet revenge After getting humiliated in England.But their dreams ended here with another Humiliation i.e Losing so badly at own turf. So it is obvious they'll show their frustration in some way.They know that Winning against England is impossible now.So now these cheap tactics & frustration are at its peak here.If you cannot bowl them out,just start sledging & shout at them like a bunch of crying kids..

PS->What's up with this umpiring?This pathetic umpire won the ICC Award & now acting like he went blind suddenly.

Posted by TheBengalTiger on (December 16, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

remember when trot claimed a catch after he picked it up of the floor? He should be banned immediately

Posted by Baber_Baloch on (December 16, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

Ashwin, Dhoni, Kohli and Sharma guys be cool sports men be nice with Umpire.....they also humen

Posted by nthuq on (December 16, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

@Jonesy2, @AntiJonesy2, can't we all get along? Brilliant series this between England and India. Good to see India squirm as they should under an irritating Dhoni. Clarke's probably going to belt a few more double centuries against this poor Indian attack. Would be nice if he made a triple too. @reality_check27, you seem to need to learn how to use sentences.

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

Congrats English fans . You have probably won the series allready . Now celebrate the victory . I certainly hope our India team does bit of soul searching and remove the likes of now useless Sachin and selfish Gambhir .

Posted by wikkey-pedia on (December 16, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

We play this great game on fields of various dimensions, with balls which react differently in a variety of weather conditions, but the variable I believe which contributes the most "magic" to our sport is the variety of surfaces which we play on. Ones which give the advantage to the ball over the bat (rare in international cricket), or flat tracks for huge scores. I thoroughly enjoy watching batsman having to graft and struggle, and try to accumulate runs while never looking in. BUT this track detracts from the game. It has forced us to sit through one turgid innings after another. This is a critical test match, with great exciting players, but yet one of the worst adverts for the game of cricket.

Posted by richardror on (December 16, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

I don't understand the Indian players. Ashwin, Dhoni, Kohli and Sharma all getting angry at the English batsmen indirectly. Dhoni, Kohli and Sharma when Trott didn't hit it and they thought he did, and then Ashwin had a go at Trott for backing up to much, when he was still in his crease!!

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

@ jonesy2- toddle off back to your minnows test series that no-one in Hobart is watching. Shouldn't comment on your betters. By the way, I can't imagine that you'd be backing the Aussies in the next two ashes with any cash. Even a fair-weather Aussie fan wouldn't be that silly.

Posted by reality_check27 on (December 16, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

well all the poms complaining and talking about drs so what couple of calls went against you that hurts while dravid was given out incorrectly even after drs was available thrice while there was no nick detected in hotspot and what about same thing happened to kallis and suddenly if it happens to england and poms come out to cry and not to mention during these bad calls against kallis and dravid were made and andy flower was just sitting in his seat laying eggs while if this happens to engalnd he goes to third umpires and starts to question them

Posted by Baber_Baloch on (December 16, 2012, 10:30 GMT)

If England able to get 250 Runs on board for 5th day then win easy for England and loss easy for India on last day....but if England have 190 total then India can win......

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 10:28 GMT)

Umpiring has been absolutely shocking in this test match - especially this second innings. Neither Cook nor Compton were legitimately out, so one howler each for Tucker and Dharmasena. The latter has been making abysmal decisions throughout the test, the majority going against England. Surely, that is not good enough for test level. DRS would have made life very difficult for India in this test match, which is obviously why they refuse to use it. But why are umpires so lenient towards India? Also, am watching this one on mute, can't stand Harsha Bhogle's biased commentary.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 10:17 GMT)

Whatever the result of this match, India should be ASHAMED of their behaviour on the pitch. If the umpire makes a descision you don't like get over it. Especially when the poor descicions which have been a massive feature of this series have gone by far in their favour. England have a case for being very disapointed which poor descisions as they, as with every other test playing nation want DRS. If England do win this series which I hope they do, they will have done so despite the best efforts of the umpires. The ICC should show some bottle and force the BCCI to accept DRS or get out of the game. They will have to learn to play on a level playing field without their ability to influence the umpires! Come on England!

Posted by Akshita29 on (December 16, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

I am bit ashamed by Dhoni's behaviour . He is the one stopping DRS. Take an example from Cook or Pujara. COOK was given out twice wrongly . Still he showed dissipointment bt not saying anything to umpires or showing anger or temper towards the poor umpire . This is very much the way foul mouthed Aussies of old would behave which I dont want India to be . Anyways India is still trying to win thats good . Need to get trott early . Trott is Looking really good . English fans would Hope Bell can make up for his failures in this all important innings . Probably England deserve to win the series . And hey Sachin looks like a 60 year old in the field.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

Back onto umpiring etc - Re the appeal for caught behind against Trott. As the commentators were saying there was no clear nick visible on the replays - not saying there definitely wasn't. What I would like to point out is that a few Indian commenters on these threads were up in arms about England's players behaviour - with predictably nothing to back up their comments. I'd be interested to see how these fans view their own players behaviour after Trott was given not out.

@ o-bomb on (December 16 2012, 09:24 AM GMT) (without wanting to tempt fate) as I type Bell is looking OK. As for KP - He looked very unsettled and his dismissal summed up his inns. He was bound to get an LBW going against him the way he was playing before too long

Posted by EdwardTLogan on (December 16, 2012, 10:05 GMT)

Can't believe how poor India's fielding has been in this match. Tendulkar, Sharma and Sehwag are liabilities in the field and Dhoni's keeping has been poor also. Some may point the finger at their superstars failing with the bat but they must have gifted England at least 50 runs in this match alone with their performance in the field.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (December 16, 2012, 10:04 GMT)

@jonesy2 australia havent won in England (who, according to you are a poor team) for over a decade, yes over a DECADE. haaaa, in your face.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

All good, even 200 runs lead and then India have to play Englands superior spin attack on a fifth day dog of a pitch. England 3-1. Easy.

Posted by Dhanvanth on (December 16, 2012, 9:57 GMT)

Ha ha..probly 1st time i am seeing dhoni getting aggressive! He was shouting " come on yaar " with a loud voice! Desperation for dhoni?? Finally?!

Posted by richardror on (December 16, 2012, 9:55 GMT)

I find it disgraceful how firstly the Indian board don't want DRS which gives them no right to complain about a decision, and then how Indian players (Dhoni, Kohli, Sharma) have a massive go at umpires for a decision which was CORRECT (Trott given not out for a caught behind). I would SLIGHTLY understand it if he was out but he wasn't!!! And if he was, Indian players still have no right to complain if they do not want DRS!!!

Posted by GerrardLK on (December 16, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

India team consists of 13 players (including 2 umpires). 5 umpiring decisions going against England & in favour of India. Perhaps that can only save India from losing a test month. Btw they aren't gonna win at any cost. Pathetic display. Ya, how can you expect a minnow to perform like champs....

Posted by cric_aus on (December 16, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

Just a question for Sachin...."SACHIN TUM KAB JAO GE?????

Posted by sgh142 on (December 16, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

Reintegration complete.......lazy, complacent, unprofessional.

Posted by Nerk on (December 16, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

How quickly we have forgotten Pujara's dismissal! I suppose England have more of a right to complain about poor umpiring decisions than India does, after all England would have been happy to play with the DRS, whilst India can only blame itself for being conservative about the technology. But in cricket such things even itself out anyway. The equation is quite simple. England need to bat through till lunch tomorrow and the series is over bar the shouting.

Posted by Essex_Man on (December 16, 2012, 9:30 GMT)

Si Baker - I agree. Trying to block your way to safety in this sort of scenario is, paradoxically, a very high-risk strategy. KP provided the perfect example of how it should be done at The Oval in 2005 when he smashed 158 to ensure England batted out the day to win the series.

Posted by poms_have_short_memories on (December 16, 2012, 9:30 GMT)

front foot lunge, you are starting to sound like an indian supporter, moan,whinge,groan...

Posted by richardror on (December 16, 2012, 9:27 GMT)

Maybe the umpires agreed to give Cook out because he was stopping the revenue of fans coming into the ground as Cook was batting all day, and no Indian fans wanted to see that?

Posted by o-bomb on (December 16, 2012, 9:26 GMT)

...and as soon as I type that KP gets out. :(

Posted by richardror on (December 16, 2012, 9:26 GMT)

If England lose it will be due to shocking umpiring decisions throughout the match.

Posted by o-bomb on (December 16, 2012, 9:24 GMT)

@JG2704 - I agree that I would also like to see Root and Prior bat above Bell. More importantly I would like to see it tomorrow rather than today.

Posted by Wallruss on (December 16, 2012, 9:18 GMT)

Thought Compton and Trott were poor before Tea, too negative

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

BAD UMPIRES are India's best chance - India 0 wtk/90 Umpires 2/0

Not forgetting the terrible calls both ways in the Indian and Eng Inn - DRS !!!! WHY NOT????

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 16, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

India's Dharmesena was the best player India had all series, and was the only way they could ever get Cook out. Let's imagine for a second that this game is being played the way the rest of the world plays it, you know, real cricket, not Bollywood cricket where different rules are applied. With that logic, Cook's average for the series is 93.6. as one can say with certainty he was not out both innings (without maybe unfairly awarding him any more runs). England should feel very proud how they've re-written history this series, despite playing against 12 men.

Posted by Inducker on (December 16, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

To add insult to injury we have the Indian commentators rabbitting on about how crap umpiring is good for the game. It sure is the only way for India to dig itself out of a hole - i.e. intimidatory appealing to induce more crap decisions. It doesn't do Indian cricket's reputation any good whatsover. Why do many people think that cricket games are fixed? Not holding my breath that this will be published

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

Another terrible umpiring decision gives India a chance. Cooke England's best batsman given out to shocking decisions twice while yesterday Dhoni and Kholi benefit from being given not out to two clear lbw decisions and one glove to short leg. Indias 12th and 13th players are keeping them in the game. This is a travesty . Are the umpires just totally incompetent? is the crowd pressure getting them ? Or are they just cheating. Either way they are giving India a huge and unfair advantage.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

I can see there are going to be many comments re controversial umpiring decisions. I can already envisage overzealous comments from some of my fellow England fans re dismissals of our openers and also similar comment from similar Ind fans about Trott still being there.Of the 3 dismissals 2 of them were close decs whereby the naked eye would not have overruled the decision and the Cook decision was poor. By and large I'd say these decisions have evened themselves up over the series. Cook has had extremes of luck (good and bad) in the series. Nick would have been out anyway as a bat/pad caught. As an Eng fan (as it stands) we prob should be more happy there has been no DRS. With DRS Cook's 2nd test inns would have been curtailed and the whole series possibly changed on that moment.

Now we are 2 down , I'd like to see Root (possibly Prior too) moved up the order ahead of the increasingly fragile looking Bell

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

So, yet another stunning dismissal by Dharmasena, by far India's most consistent & effective wicket-taker of the series. Cook, however, was partly the architect of his own downfall: had he not retreated into his shell in such a ludicrously hyper-defensive fashion, there wouldn't have been the number of close fielders around the bat that allowed Dharmasena the pretext for sawing him off. It was precisely this approach that cost England the series in the UAE as well as that Ashes-turning Test in Adelaide in 06-07: by habitually deploying what's ostensibly a low-risk strategy by crawling along at a snail's pace, they hand the psychological initiative to the opposition. What is intended as low-risk morphs, instead, into its very antithesis. Cook's only saving grace is that he's up against a captain even more intent on self-sabotage via ultra-defensivity than he is. If England manage to cling on for a draw here, they won't have won the series due to Cook's captaincy, but *despite* it.

Posted by Gloryof96 on (December 16, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

If Eng can get another 60 runs today and occupy the crease tomorrow till lunch with another 60 runs, Eng should end up around 220 runs. Re-think at lunch, either bat for another 30 minutes or declare leaving Ind to get 220 in 2 sessions with about 60 overs remaining!!!

Of'coz Sehwag can make a mockery of a small total but looking at the run rate of the entire match, it gives Ind the best chance in the match for the win and draw the series or if Eng to wrap it up 3-1 giving everyone a chance, This is test cricket at its best!!

Having said all this, its Eng match to lose and I cant see Ind winning from here on. So will Cook be adventurous or go and occupy to seal a 2-1 win??

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 16, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

England yet again have to play against 12 men. How can cricket be played when there are one set of rules for India and another for Cook? You have to hit the ball to get out, more poor sportsmanship from Dhoni, did he learn his cricket from Ponting? Fans wanting to see Cook bat all day have been denied that, not because he was genuinely out but because some biased guy at the other end said so. Another shameful low for Indian cricket.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

Wrong decision by Dharamsena giving key player Cook out in both the innings Cook was instrumental in British win in previous two test matches. Something smells fishy in this decision is there some money deals by the management /players/asian umpire/betting people. India will not have won this match if it wins too with these bad umpiring decision.

Posted by richardror on (December 16, 2012, 8:55 GMT)

Cook has got two absolutely shockers. Not having DRS is a shambles, for which the BCCI have no excuse. The viewers want it, the players want it, the managers want it, the commentators want and 95% of people in the ICC want it. Yet a small number of people in the BCCI have stopped the whole thing. Cricinfo, please publish.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:51 GMT)

Hey guys help me????? Was Gavaskar the one who predict "IF INDIA MANAGE TO WIN THE FIRST TEST ENGLAND WILL NOT COME BACK"

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:50 GMT)

Now there is the most Important session of the series coming up. India can't afford to give too many runs and England playing for a draw can do both ways, either scoring runs or playing out time, which way will KP, Trott and Bell do it? I guess KP and Bell as aggressor and Trott & Joe Root as defender. But India have their most important 29 overs to bowl now. Everyone should woke up to see what happening in this session.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:47 GMT)

Dharmasena is the world's most worst umpire...and ICC awarded him Umpire of the year...this shows where ICC stands also .. pathetic :)

Posted by may_the_best_win on (December 16, 2012, 8:38 GMT)

The heading reads "Ashwin Breaks Opening Stand".. please correct it "Dharmasena the Umpire Breaks Opening Stand" :) and indians who are complaining about slow scoring run rate of Cook n Co need to first check that Dhoni n Co were also scoring at a run rate of 2.2 an over so the indians themselves dont look interested in winning the match .. so much for the revenge series ... and i wonder where is Rajesh_india_1990 who is always there to ridicule pakistani team?? :)

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

hahaha love to see india lose this series,

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

Test cricket at it's lowest. This is the worst match I ever saw. It appears both teams were playing for a draw. Next time no more 90 overs per team as test cricket is seems a useless competition in fact they are wasting everyone's time and charging money for that from spectators. Both India and England shame upon you for demise of test cricket. You both are making a coffin for test cricket.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

If England continue to occupy the crease, then they will be able to draw this match. I don't understand why people are complaining about the slow scoring rate of England and of Alastair Cook in particular. They are employing the best strategy on this flat batting pitch. Why not occupy it until it starts to deteriorate? They don't wan to lose this match and squander their series lead. They gotta block out Ahmadabad from memory and draw inspiration from Mumbai and Calcutta.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

well, the absence of DRS is helping India at last. They have got the wicket of THE CHEF and Cook was on the bad end of two WRONG decisions by the WORLDS BEST CRICKETING UMPIRE at the moment. the diligence shown by BCCI and MSD against the Referral System has paid because it is the only way for them to see the back of THE BEST BATSMAN of the series..........

Posted by swat1999 on (December 16, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

This is the sorry story for Alaistair cook, I just can't accept it

Ashwin to Cook, OUT, makes him play this time, big appeal for caught behind and given out the finger goes up straight away but the immediate replay suggests Cook may be unlucky again. He was drawn forward just outside off stump, there was a little turn that look it away from Cook, there was a sound which drew the appeal, it was a straightforward take for Dhoni and the umpire nodded and raised his finger instantly. In fact the replay suggests that Cook missed it by a long distance, another very poor decision from Dharmasena

AN Cook c †Dhoni b Ashwin 13 (93b 1x4 0x6) SR: 13.97

Posted by Hani.say on (December 16, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

what's wrong with dahrma seena! who says he's No.1

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 16, 2012, 7:35 GMT)

Very bad approach..Cook needs to score some runs.He went into his shell.What if a wicket 2 fell at this point..That would be a disaster for England.Already there is a built up pressure due to turtle like scoring.Come on Eng score some runs fast & then give batting to India.I am sure Eng bowlers would take care of Indian batsmen.A target of 100 runs would be more than enough for them :P

Posted by Badgerofdoom on (December 16, 2012, 7:19 GMT)

Not sure I like this super defensive approach from Cook, if India bat again then we'll need runs on the board. Couple of good balls and a few bad stokes and suddenly we could be 5 down with a lead under a hundred and India really breathing down our necks.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 7:12 GMT)

What the Hell is COOK doing??? I undr stand that they want to draw.. But playing in ths way to draw???? atlEast take singles or doubles. This is why ppl hate test crickt ... 5 days of crickt then nO result...

Posted by JG2704 on (December 16, 2012, 6:45 GMT)

I said yesterday that India should hit out or get out or even do a Clarke and declare overnight. What they did was the last thing they should have done. I was certainly not critical of Dhoni and Kohli playing too slowly yesterday. I feel they saw it as too high a risk policy too go too fast too soon and the best chance would be to get near the Eng total and then hope they can rip through the India second inns.Not sure whether it's bizzarre captaincy or whether the tail weren't following orders but if at the end of the test India have not quite had enough time to chase down a total they will rue this

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

Dhoni gambles the way he thinks best. Wasting 62 minutes on the fourth day was not a good strategy. An overnight declaration might have turned the tables but England can safely play for a draw and win the series. The first hour has already hinted at the approach taken. Bat on, do not lose wickets even if the scoreboard moves very very slowly. May I congratulate England on a famous series win or wait ? Will the Dhoni gamble turn things upside down ? The head says England will win but the heart attacks and says Dhoni is a professional gambler and something may happen.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 6:24 GMT)

What is India's game plan? We fans love the game and look for exciting encounters. This is inexcusable.

Posted by landl47 on (December 16, 2012, 6:17 GMT)

India did a superb job of playing for a draw this morning. I just wonder why they declared.

Posted by jonesy2 on (December 16, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

how have india become the worst test playing nation so quickly? astounding stuff really. losing to this very poor england side is a new low. cant see either of these teams beating their next opponents

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 6:01 GMT)

Eng shud not get much defensive. It may backfire incase India grabs few wkts in quick succession. OR Eng has some pressure to level the series (:

Posted by JustIPL on (December 16, 2012, 5:58 GMT)

Dhoni's approach of reaching as close to english total as possible is totally correct as the main objective of this doctored pitch is to engineer a draw. Dhoni certainly did not want a deficit of 50 when england would have scored 20 runs in the second innings.

Posted by eng_mdkhan on (December 16, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

I recently came across a few comments from former Vice Captain Mr. V. Sehwag where without mincing words whatsoever he has shown lack of respect for the captain. In this situation where a captain is no longer respected and looked upto by his team I think it is best to step down especially in Tests so that he can continue to excel in ODIs and T20s.

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

Gud come back but still striving....

Posted by Resultpredictor on (December 16, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

Is Dhoni doing a Clarke here? India can win only if England collapses

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 5:45 GMT)

It appears that very few players in the current Indian side play for the country. They all seem to play for themselves. Either for their own records or to make sure they are in the team for the next match. Pampered brats with little talent worshipped as demi-gods by a below par populace.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (December 16, 2012, 5:44 GMT)

A nailed on draw I would say, which was always likely with the pitch. Sunil Gavaskar must be the most partisan and yet still incredibly boring commentator in the history of the universe. Kohli and Dhonin were the first Indians to bat with good applicationn and determination, shame for India it was too little too late.

Posted by kr_kinshuk on (December 16, 2012, 5:42 GMT)

batting on in itself wasn't that bad an idea.... but what was baffling was that ashwin never got that licence to go after the bowling for a few overs before they declared.... they should have decided on a score that they were targetting and once that score was achieved they should have tried to get a few overs of swinging those bats at it before declaring.....

declaring behind is brave.... but a lead would have come in handy since they'll be batting last on this pitch.

Posted by KukaSekhon on (December 16, 2012, 5:39 GMT)

This team BCCI is full of people with entitlements. There is a god who never wants to quit. There Captain cool. His cool is killing the cricket fans. There is a Nawaab of najafgarh who feels it's a torture to stay at crease. There is another opner who think winning IPL has entitled him to keep on failing at all levels. Then the spineless selectors who live in Lalaland. There is the usual bunch of corrupt policiaans and manager running the circus team BCCI

Posted by analyseabhishek on (December 16, 2012, 5:36 GMT)

This is what happens when a team is plagued by self doubt. Declaring in arrears is always a tricky business and difficult to get right, especially if you do not have much faith in bowlers (and nowadays, in your batsmen as well!)

Posted by JustIPL on (December 16, 2012, 5:35 GMT)

For sure if England go through this third innings then they are the true top team. From now on it is more of a draw as india dont have any bowling to get them out due to slowness of the pitch. This will achieve the objective of avoiding third successive defeat on the home soil. I will suggest England keep batting practice for two days as bowling here will not bring any fruit.

Posted by KukaSekhon on (December 16, 2012, 5:27 GMT)

it really beats me why Dhoni doesn't get fired ??

Posted by   on (December 16, 2012, 5:26 GMT)

This is one sided commentary!! Please be fair and respect the media ethics....

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