India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 5th day

Too many passengers

ESPNcricinfo looks at the players India used during a largely disappointing series against England

Sidharth Monga

December 17, 2012

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Cheteshwar Pujara got past 100 for the second time in the series, India v England, 2nd Test, Mumbai, 1st day, November 23, 2012
Cheteshwar Pujara will play a vital part in the future of India's batting © BCCI


Cheteshwar Pujara: A double-century, a century on a tough pitch, and a lot of promise. Young, energetic and one for the future. Good player of spin, good fielder at short leg, might need to get accustomed to carrying the Indian batting.


Pragyan Ojha: An accurate spinner. Claimed 20 wickets at an average of 30.85. Won't run through sides, but he can keep bowling at the same spot from different angles and at different trajectories and pace. For good or for bad, the best spinner India have.

Umesh Yadav: The best fast bowler on either side in the only Test he played before being sidelined with an injury. Took just four wickets but genuinely troubled batsmen with pace and reverse swing.


Virat Kohli: A century in the last innings, which was a reminder of the talent and the fight, should not take away from the fact that he played loose shots to get out in the first five innings of the series. Still never gave the impression there's some place he'd rather be even as India kept losing. Will need to carry India's fielding along with Pujara.


Virender Sehwag: Set up the first match with a typical century, reminding that he still remains a threat when the bounce is low and the ball doesn't seam, but was disappointing in the field. Dropped Alastair Cook in Mumbai and Kevin Pietersen in Nagpur. More than the damage caused, what stood out was he was standing upright at slip not expecting a catch on either occasion.

R Ashwin: Lack of patience and revolutions put on the ball a big minus, but the batting and the fight a big plus. Averaged 60.75 with the bat and 52.64 with the ball. Might not, on current form, be able to hold his place as a specialist bowler, but can be valuable as a No. 6 batsman who bowls more than just a bit. Needs to improve fielding, though.


Gautam Gambhir: Got off to starts, averaged 41.83, but failed to turn them into impactful innings. Clearly fighting hard, clearly putting a price on his wicket, but things not going his way. Not the sharpest in the field, and was involved in two crucial run outs.

MS Dhoni: Two fighting fifties. Some special catches as a keeper. A few shockers too, especially in the first Test. Misunderstood for his demands of tracks that offer turn and bounce, regardless of the result. Still a leader of men, but not as inspiring as a tactician. Allowance needs to be made, however, for the lack of quality in the attack he manages.

Ravindra Jadeja: Debuted ahead of Ajinkya Rahane, who has been waiting for a long time, under the premise that the pitch in Nagpur would turn square. That didn't happen, but Jadeja stuck to it to the best of his ability. Brought a new life to the fielding unit. Got a red-hot James Anderson when batting. Stood no chance.

Sachin Tendulkar was bowled through the gate by James Anderson, India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 2nd day, December 14, 2012
Close to the end: Sachin Tendulkar looked awfully out of form throughout the series © BCCI


Ishant Sharma*: Came in to replace the injured Umesh Yadav in Kolkata. A trier as usual, was India's best bowler in Nagpur, but needs numbers to reflect the effort. Has had catches dropped off his bowling, one of them by himself.


Piyush Chawla: Called up out of desperation despite a first-class average of over 50 this year. Took four wickets in the only Test he played. Nothing out of the ordinary, and not an answer to India's spin problems.

Harbhajan Singh: Got one match on a square turner, and took just two wickets. As good or as bad as the other offspinner but got only half the overs as Ashwin, and was discarded after that. Can't complain, though: doesn't have the wickets to show.


Sachin Tendulkar: One of the rare long series without a century, but the third such outcome in the last 18 months. Questions over retirement kept growing. Scored one fighting fifty, but otherwise continued with his worst phase.

Yuvraj Singh: Brought back after a double-century in Duleep Trophy, but - like Tendulkar - managed just one good innings out of five before being dropped. Unlike Tendulkar, wasn't great in the field. You wonder if this is the end of the Test road for one of India's most valuable limited-overs players of all time.


Zaheer Khan: Not long ago, one of the most crucial members of the Indian side. Led the attack like Anil Kumble did. Got four wickets in three Tests in this series. Looked like running out of puff, and listless in the field.

*02.40GMT, December 18: This article has been updated to include Ishant Sharma.

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Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 20, 2012, 23:16 GMT)

How does Statchin get 2? He should have been given -2. His position is crucial in the line-up. He invariably got out for poor scores, looking like a rabbit caught in headlights, and put the batsmen coming behind him under immense pressure. I sympathise with Kohli and Yuvraj for the pressure they had to put up with as a result of Statchin's unwelcomed presence at no.4 in our line-up. I think Pujara should get 9.5 and Cook a 10. Umpire failed Pujara once and Gambhir failed him once. That's 2 out of 8 in which Pujara got a raw deal. He made the most of the remaining 6 chances. Why would you give him 7/10 Sid? Any logic? I mean, he is just as good as Compton? You are not serious. Are you? And remember, he scored against the English bowlers! My marks would be: Fletcher -10, John Dawes -10, Statchin -2, Dhoni 0, Harbhajan 0, Zaheer 1, Yuvraj Singh 2.5, Ishant Sharma 3, Piyush Chawla 3, Gambhir, Kohli, Jadeja and Sehwag 3.5, Ashwin 6.5, Umesh 7, Ojha 7.5, Pujara 9.5/10. Please publish.

Posted by Class-Apart on (December 20, 2012, 20:00 GMT)

All Indian team should get big fat 0. Infact SRT and sehwag should get -10

Posted by   on (December 20, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

In think our team should scrap Duccan as coach and appoint Lalchand Rajput as head coach..Fast bowling coach Srinath/prasad.. spin coach Anil.. Batting coach:Dravid... fielding coach travor penny..

Posted by sachinanddravid on (December 20, 2012, 4:20 GMT)

good to see the marks for the players and where is your marks for the coach. why india still need to go for the coach from outside..... we got kapil Dev,Anil Kumble,Venkatesh Prasad (the best bowler in depth in which India is lacking), and for the batting Saurav,Rahul,Sachin,Gvaskar.for fielding Robin Singh.... why we cant consider them...

And Everyone knows about Dada...He can be a better coach than anybody...he prooved that when he captained India....He brought up the palyers who are playing in Indian Team now as Heores....

Comeon DADA I want to see u coaching Indian Team very soon....

India got talent....we dont need to put our head down in front of other country by saying that we dont have a coach in India so we are going for a foregin coach..

Posted by Meety on (December 20, 2012, 4:01 GMT)

@Nutcutlet on (December 18 2012, 17:48 PM GMT) - agree 100% on your comments regarding Kohli & Pujarra. I don't like aspects of Kohli's persona, I am willing to change that view in the future when some of the toxicity of the Indian change room is purged. As for Pujarra, I thought he was a star-to-be when Oz toured India last. Unfortunately an injury has held him back. I am amazed that India have gone so close to ready made replacement for Dravid. As for Kohli, he was bitterly dissappointing IMO. Yes, he got a century, but a guy with the audacious talent he has, he should of outscored Pujarra in this series. I used to think Darren Bravo is the most talented young batsmen in world cricket, but I think Kohli is the man. I thought his ton against Oz would be the turning point for him. Apparantly not yet!

Posted by   on (December 20, 2012, 0:54 GMT)

Pujara did only as well as Compton?

Posted by hsitasP on (December 19, 2012, 23:06 GMT)

Had Umesh Yadav been fit for the entire series, it might have been a 2-1 scoreline in favour of India. Sadly, sport, as is life, has no ifs and buts.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 20:48 GMT)

Sehwag, Gambir,Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, D Karthik, Umesh, Ojha and two young fast bowlers... We go back same bunch of players like ishanth.. he tries hard with out much variations and thinking.. You cant bowl just inswinger evrery ball in test cricket.. we dont have many opening batsman better than Gambiir and Sehwag.. Pujara should be persisted at 3 .. Kohli seems to better player then Sachin in present form..Jadeja will give some allrounder options.. the best of batting allrounders we have..Not sure why there are no fast bowlers in india.. we just hear 10 same names in last 10 years...

Posted by BG4cricket on (December 19, 2012, 20:27 GMT)

I for one agree with the comments on Ashwin. He showed a lot of fight and perhaps could be a bowling all rounder at 7 with MS at 6 however he is not a great spinner as his record against England in this series and against Australia away shows - record is greatly inflated by cleaning up against average teams like NZ and WI on home pitches - but not sure whether there are great replacements unless Harby gets his mojo back (after all he has 408 test wickets).

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 17:07 GMT)

I think Ishant deserved better than a 3.5 - He was the only pace bowler in the last test and led from the front. He was let down by some lame team selection and sub-standard fielding.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

bring back dravid and make sachin the coach....

Posted by Cricketfan08 on (December 19, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Shame on selectors for picking ZAK. What were they thinking. Is there no young fast bowler who could debut instead?

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 14:28 GMT)

@A.Ak - That is not true. There is no bias against players from South India. If that was the case, Abhimanyu Mithun, who has a terrible T20 record and is not even a regular at IPL level would not have been called up to the Indian team. If anything, this system of having quotas for every zone is what is hurting Indian cricket most.

However, I agree that some of the criticism Ashwin is getting after one bad series with the ball is completely over the top. Ashwin has been India's most consistent bowler in tests and ODIs over the last year. Even the greatest players go through lean spells.Even after this series, he has 63 wickets in 12 games which is not a bad record at all. What's noticeable about Ashwin is that he is gritty, intelligent and learns quickly. With those qualities plus his variations, he has the potential to be world class. The selectors and team management have always maintained that they rate him very highly and that's all that matters.

Posted by 158notout on (December 19, 2012, 14:23 GMT)

I have been waiting since Monday for these markings. A bit disappointed though. Even as an England fan I find these marks quite harsh. Pujara definitely deserved an 8 and I think Kohli a 6 if only because he came in with the Indian 1st innings in turmoil in the last test and basically wrestled the match back from the English clutches. Ashwin also deserves a higher mark in my opinion a 6.

On the other hand, does Sehwag really deserve a higher mark than Gambhir? does Harbahajan really deserve higher than Sachin? And how does Yadav score higher than most of the team despite only playing one match?

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 13:52 GMT)

Good analysis. Think we should recycle anyone less than 5, including the captain and excluding Jadeja (youth, fielding and the promise he holds). And I also think, if we have to lose, lose with youth on their side - they will learn something from it. My 2 cents.

Posted by RawG on (December 19, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

Good assesment if a bit harsh on Dhoni (who has been dealt a bad hand of players) and a bit soft on Sehwag who has been playing for himself for far too long. India needs build around a core of Dhoni, Kohli, Pujara, Ojha, Ashwin, Yadav, Ishant Sharma and Raina. All take fitness seriously and their desire to win shows through. Tendulkar Well past his prime), Gambhir (need of an attitude transplant), Sehwag (irresponsible, rash batting regardless of format, opposition and conditions) and Yuvraj (general fitness) need to be bid goodbye. Tendulkar needs to demonstrate the same selflessness shown by Dravid and gracefully exit rather than try and notch up a few more personal records. For far too long, Dhoni has been hamstrung by the so-called senior players/personalities. He is a great leader but needs to have around him a young, keen and fit team to lead. Enough of the tired, unfit, unwilling and downright complacent "stars" of yesteryear!

Posted by desireuben1 on (December 19, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

its high time for making room for young promising cricketers on top order. Dravid made a way for pujara but sehwag and tendulakar are still sticking, if they don't make way then they should be ejected. sehwag is only good for dead wickets where he can play with his eyes shut. but the bigger question is, are there enough talented cricketers there anymore, I don't mean those who score at a strike rate of 85 in T20, i mean those who can score with an avg of 50+ in test match ? IPL has produce nothing more than hard hitters, not a single talented player

Posted by 6Four on (December 19, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

@A.Ak - That is the truth and you need to come to terms with it. North India rules entire India and South India has got no chance to raise their voice either. And the only mistake done by Ashwin is that he out scored the so called 'specialist' batsmen in the team and at a better average too. So, in order to have a "special' recognition to the batsmen, they ought to keep Ashwin out of the team.

Posted by Nilesh_T on (December 19, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

What about Duncan Invisible Fletcher ? 10, but with a minus sign in front would be just right.

Posted by universalanalyser on (December 19, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

i wonder if i am the only person to feel the hillarious aspect of the title"Too many passengers" for too many make it on the list which was not the case with India at home for sometime,prior to this contest.

Posted by A.Ak on (December 19, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

After one below par - this is what normally happens to people from South India - " Might not, on current form, be able to hold his place" . What about Gambhir, Sehwag, Sachin, Kohli and Dhoni - all had one one decent performance as a batsman?.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

All the player discussed here (Viru, Gauti, SRT, Zak, Kohli, Dhoooni, Bhajji) will show their worth to their cricket franchise @ IPL, they will scored tons of run there. They will happy & have impression of good form, then these player again selected AGAIN Flop Show in Test Matches. The key to have good Test result is 1) Hard work 2) Hard Work 3) Hard Work…. which they forget. Atleast some player should be selected from young lot on the basis of their Ranji trophy results, otherwise what is the need of this format which is not producing a good cricketer.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

I think Ashwin deserved better, he is still learning his ropes, he has only played 5-6 tests , expecting him to win matches on his own is stretching it a bit too far. Ojha and Ashwin can certainly bowl better, but they need guidance, I was amazed at the way English bowlers bowled, Anderson hiding the ball and swing in reverse is kind of how Pakistani bowlers bowled, Mushtaq Ahmed surely did the trick here. Gambhir and Sehwag must be given 2 marks each, as openers and seniors of the team they had the obligation of setting up at least 100+ scores in 3 of the 7 iinnings played. Tendulkar less said the better. Indian selectors must be bold, make changes in T20 matches especially the ones with Pakistan, bring in new blood in these formats and then progress them to tests, this will work but selectors need to be bold and patient with our players.

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (December 19, 2012, 8:09 GMT)

I am surprised that Sidharth mentions specifically that Pujara is a 'good player of spin'. While that he certainly is I think, as Geoff Boycott too does, he is a very good player of pace as he plays the ball late.His eye is always on the movment of the ball which is so crucial in playing pace. In fact Boycott goes on to draw comparisons between him and the great Barry Richards in regard to Pujara's footwork. What I like about him apart from his impeccable technique is that he is not demonstrative. Maybe that is part of his modest background. This despite the fact that he has been scoring runs in domestic cricket by the 1000s for some time now.I hope he gets to play for one of the counties, maybe for Sussex for whom Ranji and Tiger Pataudi played. The fact that he hails from the same part of India as Ranji and Duleep could help maybe. It will help in him taking in even more in his technique and maybe enable him to grow significantly as a batsman.

Posted by cric_J on (December 19, 2012, 7:44 GMT)

Terribly distressing sight this.Barring Pujara and Prags and that too only in the first two tests,nothing much for us Indians here.Umesh waspretty good in ahmedabad and Ishant was fine in Nagpur and this is not only because they got wickets but because they troubled the batsmen. Batting otherwise was a complete disaster ,something we are not so used to seeing especially at home. There is no point blaming one or two players only.It was a team failure and more significantly a batting one .They need to score 450 min to win matches and we are all aware bowling has never been India's strength.Still believe they will beat Australia but maybe not very comfortably.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

The writer is a bit too humble on sachin's mark. He shld be placed at zero. And one thng which was notable tht pujara showee a decline in the form at the end of the series

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (December 19, 2012, 7:40 GMT)

I agree with Nutcutlet 's observations entirely. Pujara as Ted Dexter said, is a classical batsman with an air tight defensive technique that we do not see these days. He has quite obviously honed his skills based on the MCC coaching manual from day 1 of his life in cricket. He seemed quite comfortable against a swinging Anderson or a bouncing Finn. He would get right behind and play his strokes when he was settled. After the double century, aquick 48 n.o in the chase a century in the next test on a sticky wicket, he tapered off having been run out once and getting a wrong decision from the umpire once. Only on one occasion was he out unaware of himself. he will be quite comfortable against pace and will be able to encounter spin very well even on dicey wickets because he keeps his head on the ball even after it has gone. He has a capacity for big scores which is rare these days.Kohli on the other hand gets out after a hundred. Rahane and Rohit Sharma could be the othe big ones.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 7:19 GMT)

5.5 for Virat Kohli - This shows that Indian cricket fans and editors have short memories. Kohli scored 80+ runs in SIX innings and playing bad shots and getting out when the team needed him to contribute big. One century and suddenly he gets 5.5. If Sachin had also scored a 100 in a losing cause, he would have been given 5.5 or 6 saying - "the Master shows his class & resilience"!!

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 7:07 GMT)

I think this is the time for india to change there coach and some old player s and they have to re build there team again

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 5:42 GMT)

@ kingcobra85:

Ashwin gets 4 pts, coz he is wanted in the team as a bowler.

Ever heard of the term: "Ships are safer in the harbor, but thats not where they are meant to be". Same way, Ashwin scores runs, but thats not what he is in the game for!!

Posted by sundarl89 on (December 19, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

how come kohli who scrored less thandhoni,gambir,shewag gets higher rating than others ?

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 5:28 GMT)

It is strange that he best player has been someone who is relatively a nw entrant to Test Cricket. He lost out twice due to a poor decision and a run out thanks to Gambhir. Sachin's reflexes have definitely slowed down with being bowled more often and Sehwag has proved that one can score runs sometimes, but lack of technique will always let him down plus his s low reflexes in fielding, sometimes! Our spinners seemed out of depth and couldnt adapt to the conditions which the English spinners did. We need to get our pace attack sharpened and have bench strength to substitute injured players. Overall, our batting technique suffers in Tests because of too much short formats of the game incl IPL. We need to create a separate team for Tests incl captain to concentrate and prepare well fort Tests. Rohit Sharma is one such player who has lost his form also because of ODIs and T220. Losing aga9nst England at home should start the rethinking process.

Posted by sanjaycrickfan on (December 19, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

I would say this is a good assessment but a bit harsh on Zaheer Khan because he bowled well in first test. There was not much help for seamers in second and third test and he even got Cook edging one to Pujara at first slip who grassed it and he went on to score 170. In the final test where the conditions could have been helpful to him because of the reverse swing, he was dropped. But I agree generally he has lost the zip in his bowling and its better for the team to look forward as he is 34 already. His fielding standards in this series also have been very poor.

I also dont think Ashwin is good enough as a test spinner. He could be a decent bat but the team needs a strike bowler who could work in tandem with Ojha whom I thought was very good. There should be a specialist batsman at No.6 (or Jadeja could be a decent option) and if Ashwin doesnt do well with the ball, the team should replace him with another specialist spinner and play him only in ODIs and T20s.

Posted by ganguly_fan on (December 19, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

I feel Pujara should get 8.5. A good critic has to overcome his/her emotions before judging a person. Have all his innigs been reviewed or you just go by win / loss statistics? Need more introspection if you want your writings to be constructive and want to gain reader's appreciation.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Y do so many complain about Ishanth, by far he is the best in the pack in troubling the batsman.. the English had accepted it an year ago.. the atmosphere hasn't been inspiring, ofcourse he's expected to lead the attack.. but he hasn't played under inspring captain as Dravid, Ponting or Cook under a ordinary captain he turns out to be a ordinary bowler..

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 4:45 GMT)

Heheh, that was Pujara who dropped Cook, not Sehwag. He only dropped Bell in the last test when everything was almost over. Well u have to find praise in your youngsters & blame Sehwag, especially since u all know India cannot win without Sehwag with such a below average attack. The u can hope for is a draw with your youngsters unless u find an attck that can compete in India, let alone in other countries

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 4:14 GMT)

I agree all your judgement on Indian players except Ojha. I am surprised to read that he is the best spinner. When spinning tracks are offered, there are players like Murali Karthik or Shadab Jakati and a few who can certainly pose more problems and account more wickets even run through the opposition. Murali and Jakati are far more better left handspinners than Ojha.

Posted by jimbond on (December 19, 2012, 3:59 GMT)

Kohli has scored less than Dhoni (Dhoni also has a slightly better series average). Even where Kohli scored the century, Dhoni make nearly that much under the same circumstances. So what justifies Kohli having 5.5 and Dhoni just 4. And this too when Dhoni did it- when also captaining and keeping, and Kohli was doing what else- swearing at the opposition? With an average of around 31, neither of these (especially Kohli) deserve more than 2. (Actually Yuvraj has an average almost as good as Kohli, while also bowling a few overs). Ashwin who averaged almost double of Kohli as a batsman (and also got a few wickets) is given only 5. So, are the Indian journalists on a path of Kohli-worship, now that Sachin-worship is going out of fashion?

Posted by satish619chandar on (December 19, 2012, 3:36 GMT)

The guys with 3 and below points are the key. Probably the most experienced in their department if overall cricket is considered.

Posted by joseyesu on (December 19, 2012, 3:01 GMT)

Cooks performance dragged others to perform, whereas Ojha's,Pujara's was dragged down by all 11.

Posted by JazzKull on (December 19, 2012, 2:15 GMT)

Why won't anyone acknowledge the fact that there is blatant, lopsided selection done !!!!! Players like Jadeja, Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan are only selected so that they mask the failures of Dhoni and "THE TENDULKAR"...... Dhoni is sure that Jadeja or Zaheer Khan or any other for that matter is bound to fail.... Check out the Cricinfo ratings...... the only reason Tendulkar is not at the bottom is due to Zaheer Khan !!!!!!Why is Rahane carted around like a bag of eggs without even being played once ??????? What happened to Murli Vijay, Ashok Dinda ?????????? Why aren't people saying that after Tendulkar retires then only we'll be able to experiment with batting slots ????? Why isn't anyone saying that his retirement is the first thing necessary in the resurgence of India ? Look at Australia..... Ponting goes, new man Hughes scores 80 odd.........

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 2:14 GMT)

What sort of non sense people u all (sidh mga, dhni, etc)? Ashwin deserved some good batting but his talent not utilised. In case in the fourth test, Ashwin and other bowlers (because our batsmen never helped even to draw in the last 3 tests) would get some lead for ex: 75 runs, the game might be India's one. Irrespective of best Average in Indian side & got 14 wickets, Ashwin awarded 5 points U SILLY.

Posted by vivekk83 on (December 19, 2012, 1:42 GMT)

I am no big ashwin fan, but can't understand the criticism thrown at him. He is 26, 12 match novice and you expect him to pick 5 wickets every innings, seriously? I watched most of the games,he doesn't have much patience , but he didn't bowl so badly as what is being said... he was a tad unlucky, but wasnt outstanding either. he bowls a lot slower and doesn't have a quicker one and thus get's easily sorted out. The chap has grit to fight it out than throw it away like some of our greats...he isn't a murali or a warney but a decent spinner anda good bat with brains.... he will learn. pujara dropped two catches which were crucial. People forget it coz he has a double ton. Terrible to see different yardsticks applied. Go back to the history in the last 15 years at home; everytime india won, the batsmen piled loads of runs ( including ahmedabad). Our bowlers weren't great, but our batsmen were terrible.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 1:31 GMT)

I remember reading that this will be the first real test of Ashwin coz this is first time he will be bowling to a good team in spinning conditions. I think he is still good in terms of running thru the lower order or weaker teams + a no.6 with some fight, but test cricket is no place for a bits and pieces player. In fact, Jadeja offers a better proposition on all counts - batting, bowling and fielding. If Jadeja can prove himself abroad, he should replace Ashwin. Ojha is not brilliant either, but he is atleast as good as Harbie in last 5 years sans Harbie's batting.

Bottom line is you wouldn't get 1:1 replacements in the next generation, but if the selection philosophy is clear, you can develop a core. Pure bowlers can improve over years, so can pure batsmen. Bits and pieces usually hide behind their 2nd skill instead of refining the main trade (best for ODIs). Even T20 needs specialist bowlers and batsmen (like WI) as lower order batsmen normally don't face more than 5-6 balls.

Posted by   on (December 19, 2012, 1:00 GMT)

Pujara avergaed 87, hitting a double century and a century and you only gave him a 7... ahhhhhhhhhhh..........

Posted by mxnmxn on (December 19, 2012, 0:32 GMT)

IMO. Marks based on this series contribution: Sachin, Zaheer, Yuvi, Ojha - 1 Dhoni, Bhajji, Chawla, Jadeja - 1.5 Ishant, Ashwin - 3.5 Ganbhir, Sehwag, Kohli - 6 Pujara - 7

Posted by Shan156 on (December 18, 2012, 21:36 GMT)

@edgie, is it possible that England made India look poor rather than India making England look formidable? Give credit where it is due. Just because SA hammered England in England doesn't mean that England is a poor team. It means that SA were 'that' good.

Posted by srini_r on (December 18, 2012, 21:34 GMT)

Iam not sure how kohli is a pet of everyone. This is a series where he has not done anything worthwhile but for that last innings century. there also he was not playing for the country but to keep up his place. It has been a while since our openers Gambhir and sehwag have doen anything for a morale boosting start. It is always a shaky start. Ashwin is a material who cannot be discarded but has to be nurtured. There is no other good spinner in the ranji trophy. Remember, even the best off-spinners have struggled in India including Murali. If the batting comes up good, the bowlers will be having their tails up. But in every innings the bowlers were made to bowl to a defensive fields rather than attacking fields because of the lack of runs. Indian cricket is always baffling. we dont know who are the pet boys who continue playing inspite of their failures and others who have to starve for their chances.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 21:32 GMT)

This is not the correct ratings. Kohil 5 innings and still got rating of 5.5 while Pujara failed 2 times and score runs and there is only 1.5 points difference. even in Eng side their new opener got 7 while pujara score almost two times then nick.

Posted by guesswhat555 on (December 18, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

I think Kohli got more than he deserved in this series. Scoring century on a pitch where it would have been difficult to dislodge a Chris Martin, not a big deal i would say. Even Bell and Trott scored a century both of them otherwise were having difficulty crossing 20s. And the way he lets his mouth go ballistic after scoring a century, ah I cannot even fathom whats gonna happen when he scores a double or a triple century.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 21:07 GMT)

I am surprised by this rating for Dhoni compared to Virat Kohli. Just compare, he scored 103 in the last test, where as Dhoni scored 4 runs less. Kohli failed miserably in the entire series except the last inning, where he scored 4 more runs than Dhoni. We should also consider that, Kohli is playing purely as batsman whereas Dhoni is primarily a wicket keeper, who outscored Kohli. Still Kohli gets rated higher !!! Same with Sehwag !!! What a biased point of view from Cricinfo,

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 20:26 GMT)

Shocking, but true. When I head Tendulkar fielded better than Yuvraj, I could not believe it. Feel sorry for Zak, but given his form, he was going to be dropped and follow the footsteps of old time pal Bhajji. Understand why Pujara deserves a 7, because of that crucial dropped catch of Cook that probably cost India the series. Anyways, he's our best fielder at short-leg. Won't say Kohli was outstanding, that century took too many balls that prevented a result along with Dhoni. Anyhow, those with 3 and below need to be dropped. Yes, all of them.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 19:42 GMT)

good thing india lost this series they need big changes for the future tendulkar should retire gambhir hasnt been himself for a long time sehwag also isnt in form ishant sharma has been given many chances and as usual he has failed its time for the selectors give other people a chance rahane,badrinath, mandeep singh etc hopefully they dont bring people out of IPL

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 19:33 GMT)


Why you guys are so biased, how many chances did Rohit "flop" Sharma got. How long a talent can be groomed? India needs fighters not talented people. And the fighters and killer instinct.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 19:26 GMT)

an average of marks should be taken between people.. one person doing it makes no sense.. a lot of people think differently.. thats why this is hugely biased - and this is coming from a pakistani..

Posted by tenfan on (December 18, 2012, 19:19 GMT)

Sid, you missed Ishant :-). 2.5 for him ?

Posted by landl47 on (December 18, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

A bit hard on Ishant, who I thought bowled well in not very helpful conditions. Generous to Kohli, who helped India draw the last test when they needed to win it and otherwise did nothing. Pujara and Ojha both played well without much luck or support and I'd have given them a point more each.

Posted by nansid99 on (December 18, 2012, 17:53 GMT)

I will give -10 to umpiring in this series and -50 for great pitch preparation

Posted by vathabivaranan on (December 18, 2012, 17:52 GMT)

I agree all your judgement on Indian players except Ojha. I am surprised to read that he is the best spinner. When spinning tracks are offered, there are players like Murali Karthik or Shadab Jakati and a few who can certainly pose more problems and account more wickets even run through the opposition. Murali and Jakati are far more better left handspinners than Ojha.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 18, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

As an Englishman, I thought Pujara is probably worth of an 8.5. He, of all the Indian bats on show, really does seem to have Test match temperament. In many posts I've taken to calling him 'The Admirable Pujara' because I, like many fans, like to adopt players that I admire or warm to. Despite his temper, I also warm to Kohli because he takes much in pride in his performance. He's still hot-headed but, dammit, he actually cares & is proud to play Test cricket for India. Pride seems to have gone out of fashion in Team India generally & players who perform well in defeat often have something about them; it's called character! VK:6.5. I also appreciate Pragyan Ojha; I'd take him up to 7.5. Many people think he'll be slaughtered away from the sub-continent; I disagree. He is a quality performer without gimmicks, just a classical SLA bowler, very difficult to take to the cleaners. Let's see if I'm right. My judgements gen stand up! ZH? Worst fielder ever! He'll never play for India again.

Posted by TMSer on (December 18, 2012, 17:45 GMT)

Definately agree Pujara deserves an 8, the only indian batsmen to ever look comfortable in the series and got some rough decsions to interfere with his average. He is the future of the indian middle order, hopefully with a resurgent kohli and rahane. Jadeja was accurate and frugal with the ball, he will give dhoni (or the next captain?) much needed control form one end Umesh Yadav despite playing one test on the flatest pitch,has the best the best s/r and avergae of both bowling sides- now everything rests on his shoulders with zaheers empty tank. Please BCCI use your brains- do not over-exhaust this guy, take some top level advice and nuture his talent. Ishant bowled better in this game than ive seen in a long while, showed decent fitness too being the sole fast bowler. signs are good, consistency has always been his problem to address.

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 18, 2012, 17:33 GMT)

Kohli is 3 in my opinion. Dhoni is 2. Jadeja is odi bowler not test material. Chawla despite his wickets , he bowled rubbish. Not sure who is his godfather in BCCI to keep getting selected for bowling rubbish. Chawla is -1. Sachin is -2

Posted by anilk2100 on (December 18, 2012, 17:11 GMT)

It is Good for Indian Cricket to lose at home, it will teach them what should do in future.

Posted by chakra04 on (December 18, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

May be they considered the catch that he dropped which is crucial in determining the fate of this series, but still pujara deserves a better rating than 7. Even Pietersen who scored in one test match got a rating of 8. Even Ojha should get a higher rating. He ended up picking 20 wickets in the series despite lack of support from other bowlers where as england bowlers such as swann have support from Panesar and anderson.

Posted by Graeme_Pollock on (December 18, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

Umesh Yadav is a national treasure. I am surprised to see that few folks (including experts) have included him in their discussions. In my opinion he is the key to India's fortunes over the next few years ahead of the likes of Pujara and Kohli and all the other batsmen. In my opinion he played a pivotal role in winning India the first test match by getting wickets at crucial junctures. Otherwise England might have had a shot at drawing that game too. India must have him fit and aggressive to turn their fortunes around. The focus of India's rebuilding effort has to be the bowling attack and NOT the batting. No side in the history of the game has ever got to the top and stayed there without a quality pace attack. Let us forget this obsession with batting and refocus all efforts towards building a genuinely threatening pace attack. It will not happen overnight but it has to be given priority over everything else. Yadav, Aaron, Ishant, Sreesanth - India's hopes rest on them.

Posted by big_al_81 on (December 18, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

I'm amazed to find myself writing this but I feel these marks are a bit harsh on a few. I'd have though Pujara warranted an 8.5 - got a bad decision in the final Test too. Ojha did what he was asked very well - he may not be a great spinner but he's India's current best by a mile and 20 wickets in 4 Tests is a good return. An 8 for him. Other than that, probably about right - India weren't great and without Pujara Ojha and a terrible batting display in the 1st innings at Ahmedabad by England, who knows how bad it could have been?!

Posted by cricket-india on (December 18, 2012, 16:16 GMT)

there's nothing to choose between VVS and SRT in the last 10 tests they both played. Both were similar failures. VVS paid the price for being a soft target; no crores riding on him thro' sponsorship deals, and vicious hounds like manjrekar attacking him - in queen's English, of course. But despite the magnitude of SRT's failures and the white elephant that he's now become, the most any writer is willing to say (in public or on cricinfo, atleast) is that SRT needs to 'evaluate his future;' or whatever. make no mistake, SRT deserves our love and gratitude like no other. But remember, India were terrible in the 90s when SRT alone performed. Then came vvs, dravid, ganguly, kumble, zak, bhajji, viru, etc. We became much better and rose to the top. Now that all are gone and only SRT remains, we're back to being disasters. So how fair is it to say SRT deserves more credit for India's successes than the others mentioned? What gives SRT the right to hold Indian cricket to ransom this way?

Posted by Prakmca on (December 18, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

In indian conditions Jadeja is not able to handle James Anderson.... Does he has the calibre to handle bowlers line Steyn, Morkell, Starc in foreign pitches???? Absolute waste of selection.

Ahead of him Rahane should be given the chance.... Probably Rohit Sharma should be considered for Test cricket.

Posted by natty_no_goals on (December 18, 2012, 16:07 GMT)

@Truemans ghost Totally agree. If England had collapsed third innings and then Pujara failed in a successful chase, he'd have been given 9.5. Same with anyone else's marks. Relatedly, there is more motivation derived from losing than winning, and if India show a desire to learn from this than it could be the best thing that happened to them.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

Feel sorry for Sachin and Zaheer. Two of the all-time great Indian cricketers,I dare to say.

Posted by yoogi on (December 18, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

Those who compare India marks with England Marks, should remember that these are done by two different authors and hence you shouldnt compare except for the places they take. whether Allistair cook would have managed as much as Pujara if he is to face quality england bowling is a very difficult question to answer. So Pujara and Ohja are best for India, but obviously we know Indians effort were certainly not enough. Ok look at Ashwin, got as many wickets as Anderson, Got almost as many runs as shewag, but we all know he did his role poorly exept with the bat.

Posted by Snick_To_Backward_Point on (December 18, 2012, 15:09 GMT)

I actually rate Ishant Sharma. I think the criticism is the typical knee jerk reaction we see time and again from Indian fans on these comment boards. What gives with people focussing on the ratings (just a reflection of one person's opinion after all) with mock outrage? Surely now, the cat is out of the bag for Indian fans. Indian right now doesn't compete. It doesn't compete for many reasons: attitude of the BCCI that acts increasingly like a bully with big bucks but no desire to nurture Test cricket unlike the IPL and ODI cash cows; the attitude of the players which seems increasingly disinterested and clueless when faced with adversity; the poor fitness of the players - again, probably a reflection of their general attitude; the management team which appears to have NO POWER to influence (one wonders why India even go through the motions of getting in managers, they show so little respect for their opinions and methods), and finally the cricketing structure itself.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

5.5 to Virat and 5 to Ahwin? well, Ashwin scored more runs than Virat at difficult circumstances like one in Kolkota. Plus, he has some wickets to his name. I think Virat's century on a lifeless wicket is worthless.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

A fair assessment Monga. Only thing I object to is the bit covering Bhajji. He was not only badly handled by MSD, being forced to play second fiddle to Ashwin of all the people(!!), was extremely unlucky that the famous Anglophile Alim Dar turned down a stone dead plumb as a pudding LBW appeal against Cook when the latter was in his 20's and could have changed the course of the game. But then again, BCCI's intransigence on DRS and MSD's lack of strategic knowledge of the test game meant that India did not stand a chance. Surely MSD cant be the answer. Equally quite why he was 5.5 is beyond me. The man was pathetic throughout, as a keeper conceeding byes at will, captaining listlessly and unduly wading in with his own Madras brigade of Ashwin the non spinner, Jadeja the mystery man and Chawla the yet to be determined category!! I agree regarding Ashwin being a batting al rounder like Rvi Shastri, though Ravi was a marginally better bowler. Ashwin is truly mediocre. God help India!!

Posted by kir.vas on (December 18, 2012, 14:04 GMT)

why virendar sehwag in the team ... how silly he is in the field , now a days he is playing more politics than cricket in the team. Look at his attitude in the field. He scored a century in the first test enogh for a batsman to keep his place in the side for next three years?

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (December 18, 2012, 13:49 GMT)

India lost to England in 1984/85.Soon after, they won the WCC in Australia quite convincingly remaining unbeaten in the whole tournament. Then against Australia they came the closest in winning a Test series in 85/86 against a very good Australian side. Then in 86 they beat England in England and drew against Australia in India. now that is when Indian cricket started to look up and players of great calibre came up like Ravi Shastri, Sanjay Manjrekar,Azharuddin and Sidhu.They had Vengsarkar, Amarnath and Gavaskar to fall back upon though. That lot of players ensured that India did fairly well except when they came up against West Indies. Then came the Sidhu walk out in England and the match fixing. That was a dark phase. Then three young batsmen came in in 96 who formed perhaps the greatest batting combination from India.Dravid,Laxman and Ganguly. Already there were Sachin and Kumble.So India will rise again.I have no doubt about that.A loss at home against England seems coincidental.

Posted by Erebus26 on (December 18, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

I called it right on Ashwin before the series. He proved to be a flop as a bowler and got undone by players with half-decent technical ability. Decent batter though and although I'm loathed to say it he could have a future as an off-spinning all-rounder (although Jajeda would be a better option imo). Thought Pujara and Ojha deserved slightly better marks. Pujara looks to have a good future ahead of him whilst Ojha kept going and took the same amount of wickets as Swann in the series. He's not a guy who can run through a side but he keeps it tight and can rip out vital wickets from time to time.

Posted by crindex on (December 18, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

5.5 for Virat Kohli and 5 for Ashwin are totally wrong. They deserve lesser ratings in my opinion.

Posted by bonobo on (December 18, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

very harsh. Ojha joint leading wicjet taker 6,5, Pujara 2nd highest run scorer 7. Gambhir average 40 gets a 4. Come on, its not easy for India in transaition, this sort of hysterics wont help you fin a stable base to move forward. What India needs is PATIENCE, he is a very good player...

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (December 18, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

The marking here is being very generous rewarding failure in the same Indian cricket does with continued automatic selection. Tendulkar scores a scratchy 76 in a losing cause hailed a success by some of hardcore supporters and fails to reach double figures in 4 innings and 13 in the other and is scored 2 but Zaheer's contribution who was equally ineffective scores a 1. Sorry they're both 1s. Sehwag gets one century in the first test and nothing to speak of thereafter whilst his opposite number Cook gets 3 in 3. He speaks of patience throws his wicket away and gets taught lessons in the art of patience by 21 yr old on debut who comes in at 139-5 in a must-win game for India and makes 73 equal top score with the great KP. His contribution is nor more than a 3 so how exactly does he get a 5?

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

Some of these are a little harsh - just as the England marks are way too generous. Pujara should get at least 8 for his performance in first two Tests (and to keep him ahead of Root and Compton). I think Kohli maybe a 6, despite a generally poor series, as at least it looks like he cares (unlike some I could mention). Gambhir also very harshly marked, deserves at least a 5.5 even if he failed to push on, usually looked more like getting runs than Sehwag. But I'd give Dhoni a 2. He was skipper, he should shoulder the blame. At times I thought he looked like he was deeply uninterested and everyone is sick of his excuses.

Posted by UglyIndian on (December 18, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

@thespire- You've got the wrong idea. No one wants Tendulkar to retire. People want him to be DROPPED. He can retire whenever he wants, like Vinod Kambli did, 10 years after his last international match :P

Posted by npandalai on (December 18, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

Is it not revealing - the Top 4 marks go to relative newcomers (Pujara, Ojha, Umesh Yadav, Kohli), while the Bottom 4 are the veterans (arbhajan, Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Zaheer).

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

How fitting that the analysis of the Indian team's performance appears to have been phoned in, in a disinterested manner. I presume this is meant as an homage?

Posted by backwardpoint on (December 18, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Ray24 - you are being unfair on the Indian public by taking the BCCI players as being representative of ALL of India. Unfair, cheap and not called for. Leaves a bad taste in the mouth

Posted by backwardpoint on (December 18, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Siddharth Monga - you should probably listen to Dhoni's words after the match closely ... he appreciated the performance of Jadeja. Putting 2 and 2 together, Ajinkya's rightful place in test team just got jinxed even more unless BCCI finally decides to dis-appoint Dhoni... but surely I am to get disappointed, rather? Time will answer. I am not wasting my breath on Dhoni getting dropped. I would rather see Saha as a 'keeper-batsman and give the captaincy to Ashwin. Shocking? Why? Everytime there was a challenge, he took it with both hands... and showed that he had character. And grit. Not something that Virat showed unless his behind was crushed against the customary wall. Ashwin hit a fighting 50 even in Australia... lets remember that. Not just Virat. And seems more sensible than Virat, to add an extra point. Needs to improve on fitness though... but heck, every BCCI contracted player needs to do that!

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

where is Ishant ? He deserves to get about 6 out of 10.

Posted by flavoidastic on (December 18, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

In no way can Ashwin be termed as a test bowler.. though with his batting he can fit well in ODIs and T20s..

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

@Shah Khan: You're right. It was always going to be a matter of time before our legendary middle order would retire and Zaheer Khan would go into decline. Owing to lack of planning, its all happened together at the same time.

Posted by androyuvi on (December 18, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Ashwin deserves 5.5. He sure has the quality to be a good, if not great, test bowler, but he lacks patience. Everyone knows about his batting skills now. In his case, we should ask him to drop one of the formats, which i would say, should T20s. As his batting is a plus, we can have a much better all-rounder in him, along with 4 other bowlers depending on the conditions.

Rahane/Badri should be given chance to stabilise the batting. Tiwary is rated just below these two.

But according to me, the worst thing happened to India was, the injury of yadav. He was the x-factor in Ahmedabad. Had be been there in Kolkatta, there would have been a different result.

Drop Gambhir. Call Mukund/Vijay.

Team as goes: 1.Sehwag, 2.Mukund/Vijay, 3.Pujara, 4.Kohli, 5.Rahane/Badri, 6.Dhoni, 7.Ashwin, 8.Chawla/Mishra/Sharma/Awana/Dinda/Praveen, 9.Ojha, 10.Zaheer/Ishant/Shreesant, 11.Yadav

Jadeja/Yuvraj/Pathan can be the 12th man.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

Team India should know that pride comes before fall!

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 11:25 GMT)

LOL!!! 5.5 to Kohli for his talent??? I am sure that if Rohit Sharma was anywhere near the squad, he would have gotten away with a 10 by that logic!!!!

Posted by Truemans_Ghost on (December 18, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

My mistake, Pujara got the same as Compton, LESS than Joe Root!

Posted by ravikb on (December 18, 2012, 11:20 GMT)

Pujara should be given less than 7. We should not forget the key catch he missed off Cook when he was on 17 in Kolkata. This drop changed the course of the match and series completely. Also, he missed one catch off Pietersen in Nagpur.

Posted by Truemans_Ghost on (December 18, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

That is a bit harsh on Pujera! Dominated in the first half of the series, with a ton and a double,got a poor decision in the last test, but gets the same mark as Joe Root. Surely he deserved an 8-8.5

Posted by Allie on (December 18, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

I don't rate Ishant Sharma and clearly neither does Sidharth Monga.

Posted by itisme on (December 18, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

sachin heads the list of players who should be done and dusted with. sachin, gambhir, dhoni, harbhajan, zaheer should be dropped and that should be final. they should never be back in the team india. raina and jadeja are not worthy of test cricket. india team should be (13): rahane, sehwag, pujara, kohli, rohit, ashwin, vridhiman shah, ishant, dinda, awana, yadav, ojha , murali vijay.

Posted by Stuart_Watson on (December 18, 2012, 11:03 GMT)

This is a bit perfunctory, really. Not much in the way of analysis.

Posted by JustOUT on (December 18, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

haha.. Sambit does not consider Ishant has a bowler.. LOL.. If he is the future of leader of India's fast bowling and its a big joke.. Opponents will be on cloud NINE.

Posted by Ray24 on (December 18, 2012, 10:53 GMT)

India should focs on improving their capability and not their rankings. Rankings follow when your capabilities improve. In trying to show the world how good they are, BCCI and this Indian team have manipulated the system in every thinkable and unthinkable way. I rate all Indian victories hollow, they have done nothing good abroad in all these years. Having umpires on their side, no DRS, fighting with all teams and boards, this hasn't gained them fans either. All that India has achieved is because of BCCI, not because they are talented. When you treat a world class superstar like Dravid as second to Sachin, who BWT plays for his own records and not the team, then this is what you deserve. The same goes for flat track bullies like Shewag and Gambhir, you are no match to Laxman or Ganguly. I am very happy that this has come sooner than I expected, hopefully Indians wake up and realize that cricket and every other field in life is very competitive - work hard!

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 10:49 GMT)

Mr Monga U mentioned sehwag catch drops then what about Pujara catch drops did u forgot them,,,, cook dropped in kolkata test when he was on 20 and he made 190 what do u say about that .... 5.5 to kohli based on one innings

Posted by Rajeshj on (December 18, 2012, 10:45 GMT)

Not a good analysis by any means.. Why was Ishant left out without any marks given despite playing 2 tests, but Umesh and Bhajji were included for playing in just one test?? Why was Kohli given 5.5 for just one good innings on a flat pitch?? Why was again Dhoni given 4 points for just one good innings on a flat pitch?? Why was Jadeja given 4 points whereas Chawla given 3 points, when Chawla took 4 wickets against Jadeja's 2 wickets??.. too many loop holes in the analysis.. doesn't give a genuine read, Mr. Monga..

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

Us Pakistani fans have been expecting this for a LONG time now. India relied on Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar so much. Now 3 have gone and the other looks finished. However, the bowling looks shockingly inept. Not 1 of those bowlers would get into the Pakistan, Australia, England or SA teams. Sad to see whats become of Zaheer though. Kohli looks exceptional player. 1 of the purest talents i've ever seen. Surely its his time to lead the Test team. Pujara looks solid. And Ashwin should be promoted to number 7. He could play the Pollock role for India. Dangerous lower order batsman.

Posted by Charlie101 on (December 18, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

Having just looked at the England marks I feel 1. Ashwin has been under marked as he and had a great first test 2. Jadeja put some fire into the team and deserves a higher mark just for that reason. 3. Sehwag a little unlucky as he was run out when batting really well which turned the match. 4. Gambir overmarked for running out Sehwag and also he does not seem hungry hence his statement before the series that he and Sehwag are still the best openers in India !!!

Somehow India have to insure Yadav is fit to face the Aussies as he looked exceptional.

Posted by skpillai on (December 18, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

We dont want sachin to retire why cant they drop just like any other player. That means if sachin dont want to retire then our selectors or bcci doesnt have back bone enough to sack him, accomodate him despite his scores. This is an agony

Posted by vj_gooner on (December 18, 2012, 10:27 GMT)

Ashwin did his bit! 2nd highest wicket-taker (14) & 4th highest run getter (10 behind the mighty Sehwag & 8 behind the KKR captain).

He deserves a higher rating than Mr.I'm-the-best-in-world-Virat-Kohli

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 10:26 GMT)

No rating for Ishant Sharma?

Posted by cover_drive_sach on (December 18, 2012, 10:26 GMT)

Where is Ishanth Sharma's marks? Doesn't he deserve any? :D

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 10:25 GMT)

Drop Sehwag, Gambhir not only for poor form but for their attitude and causing dissension in the team.Drop Sachin if he does not retire.Unfortunately greats like Viv Richards,Lara are supporting his stay.Bring in Badri even if it is a temporary measure(because of his age),and youngsters like Rahane, Mukund, Murali Vijay, Rohit Sharma.Fast bowlers like Dinda,Awaana,should be encouraged.Do not bring back back Zaheer,Harbhajan.

Posted by vj_gooner on (December 18, 2012, 10:25 GMT)

5.5 for Virat Kohli? Please. 55% of the runs he made in this came in the 103 he made a few days back. He got a meagre 85 in the remaining 6 innings.

Posted by harsha_chu on (December 18, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

My team for Aussie series: Rahane, Sehwag, Pujara, Kohli, Gambhir, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin or Bhajji, Ishant, Umesh, Ojha. Sachin, I am a huge fan of yours but i think you must gracefully retire unless you can commit to playing test cricket for another 2 years. I include Jadeja as I think he can be a good batsman and provide a 5th bowling option. There are no other spin alternatives, so I am not sure whom to pick other than Bhajji, Ashwin and Ojha.

Posted by baskar_guha on (December 18, 2012, 10:18 GMT)

Focus on bowling and fielding. Batting will take care of itself. Indian bowling is just pathetic - possibly the worst attack among test playing countries save Zimbabwe. Need new blood, possibly untested for it cant be much worse than our struggling bowlers. Indian fielding also is quite poor - Ashwin, Gambhir, Sehwag are serious liabilities on the field - almost enough to be dropped just on that basis.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 10:13 GMT)

Go ahead, invite Bangladesh now, defeat them to the content of your hearts and prove yourself to be a strong cricketing power again. Oh wait! in the last encounter Bangladesh beat Team India comprehensively and Tendulkar's century went in vain. What was more tragic was that the Indians werent given the opportunity to celebrate the legend's 100th 100. Sehwag needs to look at reality and so do Team India. At this point, Team India will not only lose a ODI series against Bangladesh on any surface of the Earth, but might also go down in a test match. Indian batsmen didn't seem focused on the game, and Indian bowlers started giving up after a day didn't go their way in all the tests they lost.

Posted by o-bomb on (December 18, 2012, 10:09 GMT)

I think India has some real problems at the moment, despite the obvious talent in the squad. Sehwag is so random now that he is a liability. Gambhir hasn't been good enough for 3 years and Tendulkar is a shadow of his former self. I've not seen much of Rahane, Badrinath or Rohit, but they have to be given their chance soon ahead of some of the older players. Contrast that with Pujara and Kohli who surely have glittering futures as leaders of the Indian team. I think Ashwin is an allrounder. They could play him as a 3rd spinner. Bowling wise I was very impressed with Ojha and Yadav surely has a future. I'd like to have seen Dinda or Awana as people have been talking them up. You've scored Dhoni 4 - very generous! His batting only showed discipline in Nagpur, his keeping was ok but nothing more and as captain he was very poor. I don't think he knows how to attack in a test match. Some of the field placings were like an ODI. In the field this is as bad a test team as I've ever seen!

Posted by edgie on (December 18, 2012, 10:05 GMT)

must be one of the worst performances of an indian side at home since... forever!!! Wow. And what's worse they made England look like a formiddable test team, when the truth is England were put to the sword by the proteas not many months before, and in England no less! Surely India need to make some wholesale changes, and bring a few retirements forward.

Posted by   on (December 18, 2012, 9:53 GMT)

Duncan Fletcher: 0

Since he came in, no hunger in the team, fitness has gone down (what will coach tell his wards- let's run 10K? The wards will say fine coach, when was the last time YOU ran 10K? ;) and whatever strategy/tactics he was supposed to be, is invisible as yet.


Posted by Rahul_78 on (December 18, 2012, 9:51 GMT)

Cant understand 5 and 4 points awarded to Sehwag and Gambhir. 2 points should be deducted from Veeru for dropped catches and Gambhir deserve the same with 2 senseless run outs. And what a disapointment Veeru, Gambhir and Sachin turned out to be as seniors when the side is in transition and youngster needed their presence, guidance and runs at the crease.

Posted by thespire on (December 18, 2012, 9:46 GMT)

everyone is too eager for Sachin to retire.. We havent got anyone else good to replace him, as someone rightly said during this series Tendulkar can mentor and help the others in team and also he can play a great innings any time... everyone has bad year eg look at Trott he was really awful till the last innings ...I think real problem here was the bowling We should develop bowlers that can take 20 wickets..Dont forget England had to wait 28 years to win in India and their fand stood behind them for these time..

Posted by kingcobra85 on (December 18, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

Virat Kolhi gets 5.5 for one innings but Ashwin gets 4 ? If it wasnt for his innings in Ahmedabad India would have lost that test and his innings in Kolkata saved you an innings defeat. I guess some players just have different yardsticks

Posted by SurenShan on (December 18, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

Good Analysis. Some serious decision are required before Pakistan and Ausies arrives.

Why did the selection left Praveen,Badrinath. I still couldnt belive 4 of the indian spinner cannot able to take wicket on the 5th day of the last test match. So its time to stop blaming the pitch, and starts behaving smart.

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