England in India 2012-13 December 18, 2012

'Dhoni can be the man to take India forward'

Rahul Dravid on India's performance during the Test series against England and the way forward for a beaten team
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The last time India lost a home series was back in 2004, when they were beaten by Australia. You were part of the team then but that team was considered one of India's best ever. Would you call this series defeat against England one of the lowest points in Indian cricket over the last couple of decades?

Any time you lose a Test series at home, because India haven't lost a lot at home, you could consider it a low point. You've got to accept a little bit that this team is in transition as well, you have to give a bit of leeway for that. I think India will be disappointed, they would have expected to beat England at home. At the start of the series, and especially after Ahmedabad, you got the feeling that India felt they could have won the series. It hasn't panned out that way. From that point of view, I guess you can only go up from here. India have lost a couple of series away from home, against England and Australia badly. There was always a feeling that, you know, India might not necessarily have been playing well abroad but India will always do well in India, and all of us I guess believed that as well. That has shown to be slightly not so true, and it's time to introspect.

And where, specifically, was the series lost? If you had to pinpoint a couple of areas, what would they be?

India were outperformed in all three departments. It sounds like a cliché and you say it all the time, but I think England batted better than India. Among the top five run-getters, there is only Cheteshwar Pujara. In the bowling department as well, both the spinners and James Anderson were sensational. On the field, England were quite simply superb. It's just the ground fielding, the catching, just the overall intensity, just the energy on the field, in all these departments I think India came second best. The scoreline of 2-1 is I think a good indication of the performances of both these teams in the series.

India have lost 10 out of 12 Tests against England and Australia now. You spoke of introspection. They play a couple of months from now against Australia at home. What can they do in the interim to improve?

There is one-day cricket and you've got to play that and do well. I know it's pretty early to say this, but England were a very good side in these conditions because they had two quality spinners. Australia are always going to be competitive, they are a tough side, they're always going to come hard at you but I don't know if they have that quality of spin. Nathan Lyon can be a good bowler, but other than that I am not so sure. In the batting department as well, they've got a lot of young batsmen who've never been to India before. So I'm not that concerned about the Australia series from the point of view that I think [India] will have a good opportunity there again. So it's more really about the foreign tours that come after that you start thinking about.

If you're looking at those foreign tours, India are touring South Africa in late 2013. If you're looking for a team to be stable, consistently over a period of time, maybe two or three years, where would you start making the changes?

Well, I think you've got to look for the kind of players you think can do well abroad and think can be around for a consistent length of time. There will be a mix of [youth] and experience, you can't have everyone with a five-year plan in mind, or a three-year plan in mind. There's got to be a mix of guys who need to do the job for you now, and a sort of blend of guys who you would invest in for the next three to five years, and that would be in all departments, batting, bowling.

There's been talk of Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir. They've had some 17 innings now where they've averaged about 32 [as a pair]. Is there a case for a change in the opening combination? Maybe one of them can drop down the order. Ajinkya Rahane has been waiting in the wings for quite some time now.

I think there's going to be a bit of pressure on both of them. They've been a fantastic pair for India and have done a really good job for India. They can still play, we saw glimpses of that in the series, a couple of forties, a hundred from Sehwag in the first game, some partnerships. But it's becoming more and more clear, obviously, like I said, with a slightly more long-term view in mind - I'm not worried about Australia, but more in terms of looking at South Africa, New Zealand and England to follow - that maybe there could be a case at some stage of looking to split the two and maybe moving one of them down to the middle order, keeping this long-term view in mind. So that could be a possibility.

Sachin Tendulkar has been having a lean patch for a while. He got a good 76 in the first innings in Kolkata but it is not an absolute certainty that he'll be around when India play South Africa in 2013. Is it time that India started looking beyond him?

He's been a huge servant of the game and been fantastic for Indian cricket. He is a great player and this period has been difficult for him. He is a proud man and this would have hurt him. The thing is, people need to have a conversation with him and see what's his state of mind, what he's thinking and what his plans are. After that conversation, he himself will have to think about a few things because I'm not sure there are many people who can take the decisions regarding Tendulkar. At some stage, Sachin will have to make decisions on his own, if he truly believes that, "Yes, I can be around when India makes these foreign trips, if I can be around in South Africa, New Zealand, England, playing at my best," then I think it makes sense for him to back himself and fight it out. If he, at any stage, doubts himself and believes that he can't then he's got to start thinking about his career, and what's the future of Indian cricket as well. So it's really going to be up to him.

Look, it's a pretty emotional time, should take the emotion out of it, sit back, there's time before the next Australia series, sit back calmly and reflect. And irrespective of whatever decision he takes, in the end we have to respect it.

Zaheer Khan was left out of this Test match, India got Parvinder Awana in the squad but he didn't get the game. Going forward, do India need to look at grooming a new crop of seamers for the series against Australia and after that?

We are already doing that in some ways. Other than Zaheer, all of them are pretty young and there is a process of grooming going on. If Zaheer can get himself fully fit and bowling well again, he can have a role to play in a format of the game. I cannot now see him playing all the three formats of the game, IPLs and every single game. That will be unrealistic. I still think he can have a role to play, and again that's a discussion the selectors need to have and he needs to introspect as well as to what is his best format in which he believes he can give a top performance for India. I would love it to be Test cricket, but I'm not sure whether his body allows him to play Test cricket, that's a decision he needs to make. But it's clear to me that he needs to choose and sacrifice some of the formats of the game.

There was a lot of talk about Dhoni in the build-up to this Test match and even on the morning of the fourth day, the tactic clearly was questionable when India batted out some 13 overs just to score 29 runs. Do you think he is still the right man to take India forward from here on?

That's the thing about captaincy, you can look at a lot of tactics and question them, and we all did on that particular day. You get some right and you get some wrong as a captain. You can't pick and choose and take out slices and say, "look, this was wrong and this was right," in captaincy because as a captain, you will make mistakes. In the course of a Test match, you'll get a few thing right, a few things wrong.

At the moment I don't really see a viable alternative. I really think Dhoni can be the man to take India forward if he has the energy, passion and the enjoyment to do it. That's again the key. It's really going to come down to a lot of these players actually sitting back themselves, once the emotion has gone back, and calmly reassessing where they're at, and their roads to the future and the joy and enthusiasm they have to take Indian cricket forward. If Dhoni has it, I believe he is the right man to do it but that's really up to him to decide.

Cheteshwar Pujara got a double in Ahmedabad, Virat Kohli got a century here and Ravindra Jadeja was exceptional in the field. Those are some of the positives …

Pujara, definitely for me, is a very good positive going forward. He's done really well, he's shown good temperament. Virat Kohli, again, just reinforced our belief that he is going to be around for a long time and he is someone that Indian cricket can build a future around at some stage. Jadeja, like you said, did show glimpses with the ball and on the field that he can add some value at this level. With the bat, is, for me, the key element with Jadeja. We didn't get a chance to see much of it here. But, going forward, if Jadeja wants to get selected and play regularly for India, he's going to offer more at No.6. Or he's going to offer more than the frontline spinners as a bowler.

I think you can get away with it in one-day and T20 a little bit, you can be bits and pieces. In Test cricket, at some point of time, bits and pieces cricketers don't work. So Jadeja has got to go beyond that. He's got runs this domestic season so I'll be interested to see actually whether that actually means runs at Test level.

Siddhartha Talya is a senior sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • POSTED BY whyowhy on | December 20, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    I totally agree with Dravid (and salute him for having retired when he could have gone on like Tendulkar who has gone beyond his expiry date) Dhoni is the best captain India can have at the moment no matter what Gavaskar and his cronies think - maybe Sunny likes Kholi because he is an arrogant brat like him in his younger days)....Dravid you never uttered saner words, losing can only mould a team and to change captains at every defeat will be stupid to say the least.....drop the cronies and invest in some youngsters and India will start winning again....how about dropping some of the old cronies in the selection panel and appointing Dravid and Ganguly to the selection panel.....makes sense as the selectors seem to have gone into a long sleep. Actually Sleeping beauties.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | December 20, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    I hate to be critical of dravid because he probaly only team man for india. But he has no clue. It is astonishing. Not sure he wants to be politically correct and do not want piss people off or something. But he has opinion just like every one of us. I disagree completly with him. I even say people should stop listening to dravid ideas because it is way out of reality. Kinda as bad as duncan fletcher coaching. India is a complex country. One of the first quality of coach is peace maker. Because we all come different part of countries each person has a state and group and lobby behind it. Some are stronger than others. Rohit sharma got umpteenth chance because mumbai lobby in BCCI is powerful. Darvid and ganguly should never be coach of indian team. May be adminstrators. They do not understand "human" factor. They go by technical thing which is not really reality. Reality is complex. DHONI has to go. :)

  • POSTED BY astopal on | December 19, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    @Kulaputra while it is true that if you have rockstar bowling unit you will win no matter how crappy the captain is. Ponting was not too great a tactician still has a tremendous record. On the other hand if you have average or just above average resources then you need to be innovative, you need to be attacking and hungry. You need to support the bowler with right fields. What kind of captain will be the one who is 2-1 down in the series and did not push for closure. Obviously someone with odi/t-20 mindset. If every team had excellent bowling attack then why would you need leaders, and even the excellent bowling attack might have rough days.. Same bowler can perform different under different captain and that is a fact. The kind of fields you give someone and the confidence and support when you get hit. Attitude, is of utmost importance in Test cricket.This team is not low on talent but attitude and the fortunes can only change by changing the current leadership.

  • POSTED BY Helperby on | December 19, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    @nonsufficitorbis - and your point is what? That because there is more money in T20 it doesn't matter that India is currently tumbling down the Test rankings? That they should quit Test cricket? That all Test cricket should be stopped because the Indian public aren't fans?

    Come to a Test match in England and you will see a different story - whilst we enjoy T20 and ODI we are still able to see that Test match cricket is where the boys are separated from the men in terms of technique and mental strength - this is the real proving ground of a cricketer. Being able to slog sixes off pedestrian bowling does not make a Test batsman as has been demonstrated in this recent series.

    Test cricket is for those who really understand and love cricket. T20 is for those who like a bright and noisy spectacle. Those that do will ultimately tire of it through over-exposure or will be easily distracted by the next bright and noisy thing.

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    @KiwiRocker:Which world cup are you talking about ?? WC 2010 ??

  • POSTED BY Kulaputra on | December 19, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    You need to take twenty wickets to win. When you do not have bowlers to do that, it does not matter if God is your captain, you can not win. Stop futile discussions. Select the best teams and who should captain is usually pretty obvious

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    \iagrfee with Dravid to keep Dhoni on as captain. What India need is to find attacking seamers. How can you a critical match with oneseamer and four spinners when you have back up partime spinners like Shewag, Tendulkar, Khol, and now Ghambir. There is need to find a more all round team like bowler/batsmen. Look at Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    I dont agree that Dhoni should continue as captain and the basic reasons for the same are 1. He is a poor tactician and that was evident on 4th day of last test 2. Very partial in selecting the team. Chennai super kings team mates always gets preference over good performers like Rahane and Tiwari. 3. Excellent at making excuses over defeats (Bad pitches, Monty's great, bad team, bad format etc etc) 4. Not greatly affected by test defeats. But will surely be devastated if his team looses in the first round of IPL.

    Its high time that he himself decides his priority and I am sure thats not test cricket. But the biggest problem is If not Dhoni then WHO???

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | December 19, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    I am surprised that people are going after Dravid for his comments.For the first time in so many years sporting pitches were made in India ,at-least in two matches ,although India lost both of those tests but now we know what are the problems which should be taken care of.India has been playing on dustbowls like the one we got in Ahmadabad for a long time .This strategy of playing on such pitches may have benefited India at home resulting into just two home test losses in last 5 years but due to that Indian players struggled whenever they got a sporting pitch which helped both batsman and bowlers.Indian team will improve for sure ,we need to support and back our team.

  • POSTED BY killerfantacy on | December 19, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    MY TEAM FOR AUS TOUR TO IND IS

    1 P Dogra Open 2 Jiwanjot Singh Open 3 Cheteshwar Pujara 1 Down © 4 V Kohli 2 Down 5 M Manhas 3 Down 6 Aatish Bhalaik 4 Down (W) 7 RA Jadeja 5 Down 8 IK Pathan 6 Down 9 UT Yadav 7 Down 10 IC Pandey 8 Down 11 M Gupta 9 Down 12 Ankeet Chavan 12 Man 13 Harshad Khadiwale Sub 14 AT Rayudu Sub 15 Duvvarapu Shivkumar Sub 16 Shahbaz Nadeem Sub

  • POSTED BY whyowhy on | December 20, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    I totally agree with Dravid (and salute him for having retired when he could have gone on like Tendulkar who has gone beyond his expiry date) Dhoni is the best captain India can have at the moment no matter what Gavaskar and his cronies think - maybe Sunny likes Kholi because he is an arrogant brat like him in his younger days)....Dravid you never uttered saner words, losing can only mould a team and to change captains at every defeat will be stupid to say the least.....drop the cronies and invest in some youngsters and India will start winning again....how about dropping some of the old cronies in the selection panel and appointing Dravid and Ganguly to the selection panel.....makes sense as the selectors seem to have gone into a long sleep. Actually Sleeping beauties.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | December 20, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    I hate to be critical of dravid because he probaly only team man for india. But he has no clue. It is astonishing. Not sure he wants to be politically correct and do not want piss people off or something. But he has opinion just like every one of us. I disagree completly with him. I even say people should stop listening to dravid ideas because it is way out of reality. Kinda as bad as duncan fletcher coaching. India is a complex country. One of the first quality of coach is peace maker. Because we all come different part of countries each person has a state and group and lobby behind it. Some are stronger than others. Rohit sharma got umpteenth chance because mumbai lobby in BCCI is powerful. Darvid and ganguly should never be coach of indian team. May be adminstrators. They do not understand "human" factor. They go by technical thing which is not really reality. Reality is complex. DHONI has to go. :)

  • POSTED BY astopal on | December 19, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    @Kulaputra while it is true that if you have rockstar bowling unit you will win no matter how crappy the captain is. Ponting was not too great a tactician still has a tremendous record. On the other hand if you have average or just above average resources then you need to be innovative, you need to be attacking and hungry. You need to support the bowler with right fields. What kind of captain will be the one who is 2-1 down in the series and did not push for closure. Obviously someone with odi/t-20 mindset. If every team had excellent bowling attack then why would you need leaders, and even the excellent bowling attack might have rough days.. Same bowler can perform different under different captain and that is a fact. The kind of fields you give someone and the confidence and support when you get hit. Attitude, is of utmost importance in Test cricket.This team is not low on talent but attitude and the fortunes can only change by changing the current leadership.

  • POSTED BY Helperby on | December 19, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    @nonsufficitorbis - and your point is what? That because there is more money in T20 it doesn't matter that India is currently tumbling down the Test rankings? That they should quit Test cricket? That all Test cricket should be stopped because the Indian public aren't fans?

    Come to a Test match in England and you will see a different story - whilst we enjoy T20 and ODI we are still able to see that Test match cricket is where the boys are separated from the men in terms of technique and mental strength - this is the real proving ground of a cricketer. Being able to slog sixes off pedestrian bowling does not make a Test batsman as has been demonstrated in this recent series.

    Test cricket is for those who really understand and love cricket. T20 is for those who like a bright and noisy spectacle. Those that do will ultimately tire of it through over-exposure or will be easily distracted by the next bright and noisy thing.

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    @KiwiRocker:Which world cup are you talking about ?? WC 2010 ??

  • POSTED BY Kulaputra on | December 19, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    You need to take twenty wickets to win. When you do not have bowlers to do that, it does not matter if God is your captain, you can not win. Stop futile discussions. Select the best teams and who should captain is usually pretty obvious

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    \iagrfee with Dravid to keep Dhoni on as captain. What India need is to find attacking seamers. How can you a critical match with oneseamer and four spinners when you have back up partime spinners like Shewag, Tendulkar, Khol, and now Ghambir. There is need to find a more all round team like bowler/batsmen. Look at Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY on | December 19, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    I dont agree that Dhoni should continue as captain and the basic reasons for the same are 1. He is a poor tactician and that was evident on 4th day of last test 2. Very partial in selecting the team. Chennai super kings team mates always gets preference over good performers like Rahane and Tiwari. 3. Excellent at making excuses over defeats (Bad pitches, Monty's great, bad team, bad format etc etc) 4. Not greatly affected by test defeats. But will surely be devastated if his team looses in the first round of IPL.

    Its high time that he himself decides his priority and I am sure thats not test cricket. But the biggest problem is If not Dhoni then WHO???

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | December 19, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    I am surprised that people are going after Dravid for his comments.For the first time in so many years sporting pitches were made in India ,at-least in two matches ,although India lost both of those tests but now we know what are the problems which should be taken care of.India has been playing on dustbowls like the one we got in Ahmadabad for a long time .This strategy of playing on such pitches may have benefited India at home resulting into just two home test losses in last 5 years but due to that Indian players struggled whenever they got a sporting pitch which helped both batsman and bowlers.Indian team will improve for sure ,we need to support and back our team.

  • POSTED BY killerfantacy on | December 19, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    MY TEAM FOR AUS TOUR TO IND IS

    1 P Dogra Open 2 Jiwanjot Singh Open 3 Cheteshwar Pujara 1 Down © 4 V Kohli 2 Down 5 M Manhas 3 Down 6 Aatish Bhalaik 4 Down (W) 7 RA Jadeja 5 Down 8 IK Pathan 6 Down 9 UT Yadav 7 Down 10 IC Pandey 8 Down 11 M Gupta 9 Down 12 Ankeet Chavan 12 Man 13 Harshad Khadiwale Sub 14 AT Rayudu Sub 15 Duvvarapu Shivkumar Sub 16 Shahbaz Nadeem Sub

  • POSTED BY kitten on | December 19, 2012, 7:00 GMT

    As far as Dhoni is concerned, I tend to agree to some extent with Dravid, but where ST is concerned, I think, enough is enough. As someone rightly said, for what ST has done, he should be rightly appreciated, but the country should not be perpetually obligated! If Tendulkar feels he should still play on, and seeing the way he is performing, getting bowled time after time, then I am afraid the selectors should show some guts, and drop him from the team, and give a deserving youngster a chance. By being in the team, he is not a role model for the youngsters, on the contrary, he is a bad example and a hindrance. Zaheer and Bhajji, should be put to pasture, and Sehwag given a last series against Australia to perform, and then if he fails again, dropped like a 'hot potato'. Rahane, Yadav, Dinda, Awana, Tiwari, and any other promising youngster given an opportunity. Let's face it, they can't fare any worse than our revered 'seniors'.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | December 19, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    @Un_Citoyen_Indien- Pujara would be my choice.

  • POSTED BY Un_Citoyen_Indien on | December 19, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    @ Yarms: Your statement: "Form is temporary, class is permanent" in reference to Tendulkar has limited scope.

    Because by that logic, Gavaskar who was a FAR SUPERIOR test match batsman than Tendulkar (batting average of 55+ versus Tendulkar's 40 odd in the 3rd and 4th innings of tests, opening the batting against Marshall, Holding, Garner, Lillee, Thomson, Snow, Hadlee and Khan, terrific overseas record etc....etc.) should still be able to play test matches!

    Afterall, form is temporary and class is permanent :)

  • POSTED BY nonsufficitorbis on | December 19, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    It is so funny how people will do everything except look at truth in the face!

    India and Indian fans DONOT care for test cricket. That is the truth. Everyone will try to not face it, like in cricinfo or other media outlets because people are not ready to accept t-20 as the most powerful format that cricket has everseen. It dwarves Test Cricket with its appeal and potential.

    Most human beings except the smartest cannot accept change. Look at the crowds for Tests and the trp ratings and compare them with IPL. I dare people to do that and see the truth and reality.

  • POSTED BY KiwiRocker- on | December 19, 2012, 4:52 GMT

    I agree with Dravid' Dhoni can be the man to take Indian forward' however that forward direction is review of India's test status and being eliminated form test playing nations. Current Indian team is an embarassment to the game of cricket. No other cricket team including so called minnows has lost 10 of their last 13 test matches. ICC needs to intervene and have this stopped. It is become a farce! And these so called world champions of flawed World Cup 2010 are not even good enough to play Asia cup trie series final in Australia. As far as home of T20 and IPL circus, these over paid , over hyped, non performers did not even reach the semi final of T20 WC. Indian team is a major flop in test matches, embarassment in ODI's and a joke in T20!

  • POSTED BY Yarms on | December 19, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    SRT - Should be retained for the Aus series. He should stop trying to build an innings and be overly defensive as this gets him into trouble. at the age of 39 his technique is still far surperior to many other frontline batsmen in the team. He should stop thinking about survival and change his mindset to one that he had in his 20's. Attack is the best form of defence. We all know that form is temporary and class is permenant. One final Hooorah with a big hundred against Aus and then time to hang up his boots. He has nothing to loose by playing freely. Playing in a restricted manner is getting him no runs so playing aggressively may just do the trick.

    MS - is still the best captain around as RD says there is no one to step into his boots. As WK he has guts.. Whilst it did not pay dividends standing up to Ishant bowling at 140K against Bell was no joke.

    Guys we just need to believe in the future we have many jewels. However, in my view we need an aggressive coach. Mr Warne Perhaps?

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 20:51 GMT

    It may be good to invest in Dhoni for 1-2 years till India groom Kohli or someone else for the position. Coming to the tactics on Day 4 of Nagpur, how can a captain confidently declare 30 rund behind with no match winning bowlers in hand? The pitch was slow and not a big turner either. He may have wanted to play more time and hope if pitch cracks so that the bowlers use the same. At the same time, England can also bat one full day and put India in backfoot by declaring and then having a go. Dhoni was not having confidence in his batsman either, by the way India batted in the second innings in Kolkata test. He maybe right in saying that the 'mood' was not bad compared to the WC loss of 2007. He was not comparing the format - but just the mood at the dressing room after the loss because of the huge expectations in a big tournament compared to a bilateral series with India struggling to find the perfect XI to field after the big retirements.

  • POSTED BY RameshRayaprolu on | December 18, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    Fairly agree with Rahul. But I still think Indian test cricket should transition very fast, considering the upcoming foreign series.

    Either MSD must be replaced, or MSD has to re-think his test strategies. As Rahul said, he has to put back all the emotions, and go talk to some senior captains, preferably Dada. He must get his test captaincy skills updated, otherwise he will be replaced very soon.

    I think its high time to get new openers (Rahane/Mukund) right now and make them stable before foreign tours. I might mean some tough decisions for BCCI to get rid of GOD and Veeru...Gambhir can drop down the order to make way for freshers...

  • POSTED BY GrindAR on | December 18, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    Lets shuffle the order a bit, Same team, with a different confident building coach (In this century, we have great names to train our team in most departments, but Rflx & Injury),

    Ashwin & Rahane - Opens (Ashwin can open well) Pujara Kohli SRT (U Chand - Alternate) MSD (Saha - Alternate) Sehwag (Jadeja - Alternate) (AllRounder #1 - Alternate) Gambir (Chawla - Alternate) (AllRounder #2 - Alternate) Ohja (Munaf Patel) (IK Pathan) P Kumar (I Sharma) (Dinda) U Yadav (Vinay Kumar)(L Balaji)

    I think we have the payers, but not utilized properly, preconceived plans? Folks should think out-of-the-box (OTB) on and off the field every now and then. So, where we lack? applying our strengths. Which never happened in Indian Cricket. EVEN WE RAISED TO #1 ONLY BECAUSE WE HAD FLEXIBLE/RELIABLE PERFORMERS ADOPTED TO PRECONCEIVED PLANS. (Exception Ganguly's gang, (SG, RD, VVS, AK) ). So none left, probably we need some folks to step up to fill in their roles (love and passion for the game).

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | December 18, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    Haha, poor Dravid always the gentleman. You could almost see him squirm at having to give an assessment on Jadeja, tried his best to be honest without trashing Jadeja. If he is truly looking to make commentary and journalism his new career. Dravid will need to speak frankly and call a spade a spade.

  • POSTED BY Playfair on | December 18, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    There is always someone to step up to the role of captaincy. The two that come to my mind is Gambhir and Kohli as both have the necessary experience and pedigree. Dhoni has had his day and it was probably waiting to happen as his luck ran out!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    Good on Dravid for backing Dhoni, at least he has some support. Nice to see him also giving Pujara a good word, as well as Kohli. These guys deserve it. But I think the problem with Tendulkar is that his obsession with records continue to bother him. Yes, he has achieved almost everything, but I think he is looking at that "200 Tests" mark. He should retire now, without further humiliation against Australia. Don Bradman never had that "perfect" record either, averaging 99.94 so why should Tendulkar be worried? This is really sad to see such a great player of the game going down like this....

  • POSTED BY GrindAR on | December 18, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    We use to have high price tag wickets and highly energetic on field entertainer(s). To break hte jinx on a tough going, we need jinx breaker(s) on field (like VVS, Kumble, Raina and old Jadeja) to bring fun to their fielding team to relieve frozen grim. Do we have anybody here? Hard core performance is great, but when the going is tough, some jinx breaking would shuffle things up a bit (even to the batsmen). Am I the odd one to think differently?

  • POSTED BY sports99 on | December 18, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    All now need is Common sense - is defined by Merriam-Webster as, "sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts. - Sports(especially palying for India) is not a Corporation. Indian test cricket need a Captain not a person who speaks so well with media like a CEO of corporation. Just take out Dhoni and Tendulkar from test team and you can see the difference and my vote is for Virat Kohli as Captain. Looks simple but we never follow simple things.

  • POSTED BY VAS4 on | December 18, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Some people want to remove Dhoni from his captaincy. I feel there has been some games going on internally between the players to remove him. if Dhoni is removed now, that will be encouraging the internal politics. Dhoni has gave us so much as a captain and as a player. He should continue and it is the attitude of players is what needs changing.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    Remove Dhoni as captain, then things will change

  • POSTED BY Batmanindallas on | December 18, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    Like Ganguly said Dravid should back and be a nice boy like he is. Dravid will not speak bad about anyone and to expect him to say drop Dhoni is not going to happen

  • POSTED BY prabachris on | December 18, 2012, 17:44 GMT

    Sachin tendulkar is the greatest amoung greats in world of cricket.no doubt about it.no one can question him and some have to talk to him regarding his future is correct. but my question is for a one mans decision is it the the whole nation of millions fans have to wait ? he did very well in the past and he may still have talent left in him , but what about the young batsamen waiting for ages to fulfill their dream of palying to india.this is the best time to give send off to sehwag, dhoni, tendulkar ,zaheer , bajji.take them to party give them some (R.s)crores and medallion and confirm that they will play in IPL.even though gambir is not playing well , he will as aggresive captain in test.

  • POSTED BY astopal on | December 18, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Mr Rahul Dravid, Our hero and idol. I have only one question to ask. Would you like to continue someone as Test captain who does not respect or care for the format? Someone who compares losing 10 out of last 12 tests to one measly WC qualifying ouster of 2007. I hope i do not need to remind here after how many years have we lost series at home, this is easily our worst run in test cricket in two decades. 10 down out of 12 and the captain is denying it vehemently . Dhoni's shelf life as a test captain is over. If someone wants to see him as t-20 or even odi captain so be it but we do not want a captain who will kill our love passion and respect for test cricket. Dravid Sir you are too Good to ask for his sacking , but honestly someone who was badmouthing senior pro's sometime back after being handed over the throne, has soon been found out as soon as the stalwarts have left. Ganguly was the best captain India ever had and the buildup done by him has been laid to rest by Mr. MSD. Regard

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | December 18, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    One right comment made by Dravid is regarding the future Indian batting -Pujara & Kohli. Also the Indian seamers who will form the basis will be Ishant, Yadev & Aaron. The spinners category is wide open. India must develop a RH leg spinner in the XI urgently, amongst Chawla, Mishra & Rahul Sharma. This should be top priority.There are lots of left arm orthodox, 3 good ones are Ojha, Jadeja & S.Nadeem. Ashwin needs a lot of coaching to become a better off spinner. Alternatives like Rohit Sharma & Raina are both batsmen. My advise to both is to focus & fill the vacancy for a good off spinner. My choice of Captains for 3 formats are: Pujara (Tests), Dhoni (ODI), Kohli(T-20). I do not agree with Dravid regards his attitude towards the older players which comes out of loyalty. Tendulkar, ZAK, Harbhajan must retire. Sehwag & Gambhir's spots are seriously being challenged by Rahane, Dhawan & Mukund. Tiwary needs to replace Tendulkar.Shami, Awana & Sandeep possible replacement seamers for ZAK!

  • POSTED BY markiv77 on | December 18, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    What dravid says is absolutely right now is the time to rebuild ,we have to have players who can grind the opposition remember in 2003- 04 australia series down under we had akash chopra who played perfect foil for sehwag our openers laid the foundation for that sucessful tour,similarly in the middle order give s.badrinath another chance ,get kumble to be the spinners coach,dravid as batting coach.

  • POSTED BY BWSHAH1976 on | December 18, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    And Tendulkar should retire after South Africa series on a high. Roahit Sharma can take his place in Test and Odi Cricket.

  • POSTED BY BWSHAH1976 on | December 18, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    I don't understand how people talk about Gambhir being the test captain. A captain must be a certainty in the team. Gambhir in this form should be benched for a while. He needs to fix his technical flaws of giving catching practice to players behind the wicket and then come back. Sehwag must be dropped down the order and given another chance, if he doesn't perform there for about a series, he should be done away with. I have a gut feeling he would be a gr8 #6 batsman as he can really play aggressive cricket at that position. Test Team: U Chand, Rahane, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli(C), Sehwag, D. karthik, R. Ashwin/Ojha, Harmeet Singh/Ishant Sharma, U. Yadav, Z. Khan/Awana ODI Team: Sehwag, Tendulkar, Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni (C), I. Pathan, Y. Pathan, R. Ashwin/ Harmeet Singh, Dinda, U. Yadav T-20 Team: Gambhir, Rahane, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni (C), I. Pathan, Y. Pathan, R. Jadeja/l. Balaji, Harbhajan, Dinda, Awana/ Varun Aaron Not a single player in all 3 formats.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    For those who say that Dravid is being biased towards Dhoni one has to realise that he is one man who has played under the captaincy of Dhoni and also with most players of the current team. He is in a position to make such a comment because he thinks there is actually no one presently in the team who can take the responsibility well. There might be no candidate suitable for the job Agreed that many questions will be raised against Dhoni but who is performing in the team? No one. First find options who will perform and then a performing captain

  • POSTED BY RazorMach on | December 18, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    Almost every Indian Cricket pundit hems and haws when it comes to discussing Tendulkar's performance, always harping back to how great a 'servant of the game' he has been. Also, no one, I mean, NO ONE has the courage to drop him. It is always, we "need to have conversations" with him and so on. The retirement decision may be Tendulkar's but performance based selection is not! One doesn't need to barbaric in how it is handled, but in all gentleness the selectors must show spine!

  • POSTED BY NCP1 on | December 18, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    Why can't people accept the fact that Dhoni is not a test player or a captain and if you try someone who can play better test matches you will build a good team. Dhoni has lost test matches in 3 and four days, in many matches India were out of the game in the first innings, he has no clue about building a test team. Dhoni is given too much credit for one day and 20/20 wins, let him play the short format and release him form test. He is a good player for short format, he should bat up the order and score lots of runs like Gilly.

  • POSTED BY Gloryof96 on | December 18, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    I agree with Dravid 100% .....

  • POSTED BY riprock on | December 18, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    Too much success and fame may have spoilt the hunger and enthusiasm in Msd. The limited-overs glory may be deceiving. However great his accomplishments and impact may be, the consequences of bearing the burden of managing two tasks apart from leading a team that's got huge expectations in a country where every move is under scrutiny..for a one dimensional cricketer for such a long period are gradually becoming evident. He has shown strong glimpses of his amateurish test captaincy in several pressure situations..and his batting technique and approach at the Test level haven't necessarily given him the wonders he's done in other formats. Gambhir or Kohli or both split across formats isn't too bad an idea I reckon.

  • POSTED BY indianpunter on | December 18, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    Never let Dravid become an administrator or selector. He cant make the hard calls.." NO one has the right to make decisions on Tendulkar.." > I am staggered by that comment. Which planet is this living on? Tendulkar cannot play another test for India. I will lose my faith if thats the case. If this does disaster does not force a review, the final nail is already in the coffin.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 14:10 GMT

    I think it's sad when ex players cannot be openly honest. Dravid is not doing himself justice here with these answers. I'm sure deep inside he knows India's future in Test cricket is bleak. We have bred and reared a bunch of batsmen who know only to play one way. Bowlers who are instinctively defensive and without discipline. And a captain who thinks he has the team at his disposal that drew Australia in Australia. Change can only come when important players voice their displeasure at the way the BCCI manages the cricketing future of this country. That board has taken this country into the hands of mindless commercialism without really investing in sustainable development of a core group of test grade cricketers. Of course, they may think good cricket is played in 20 overs. Sack the board and create a new test team or better still take a 5 year hiatus. No one is doing india proud nowadays wearing an all white outfit.

  • POSTED BY Mughlaichicken on | December 18, 2012, 14:10 GMT

    Dravid id being circumspect in his comments. The reality is what has transpired, India as innately corrupt it is, could not even fix victory in their own back yard and this is not for lack of trying!! They believed in their own batting and bowling myth on slow spinning pitches only to be upstaged by the English. The entire system needs an upheaval and Cricket India needs to rebuild from ground upwards with a foundation that is accountable, knowledgable and diligent. Bring in Dravid, Ganguly , possibly Kumble these were the body and soul of the rejuvination of Indian cricket in the first decade of the 21st century, add a few of the coaching staff and then you have a workable foundation. You do not need the Gavaskar's, Shastri's et al to advise on the functioning of the system, the game and rules have changed since their time. Change does not necessarily lead to progress, so progress can only be qualified through a plan that breaks the shackles that cricket India is caught in.

  • POSTED BY Narbavi on | December 18, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    @ Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar: Dravid obviously knows better than you, infact better than anyone!!

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | December 18, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    I respect Dravid hugely but it seems to me that his defence of the senior players is a little too determined for my liking. I don't blame him for his opinions - he's shared a dressing room with many of these guys for a numbers of years and doesn't want to be seen to be slating them too much. However this series should be a final nail in the coffin for many of these player's test careers. I feel the selectors need to make some tough decisions and quick on the futures of Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar and Dhoni. Simply put the 'best opening pair in India' haven't performed when the going has got tough and their performances in the field have looked more lethargic than a tortoise with asthma. Age seems to be catching up with Sachin, and Dhoni doesn't look a test captain in any shape or form. I feel he's been carried by the senior players for too long but looks exposed now that these guys are not performing or, in the case of Dravid and Laxman, have retired.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | December 18, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    I simply cannot agree that Tendulkar needs to fight out this patch in international cricket. If he's not in form and he clearly isn't why does he not go back to domestic cricket to rediscover form. Is it too beneath him? Undroppable players sends the wrong message to other players, weakens the whole team and denies a place to someone else who may be more hungry and deserving of the opportunity. Being dropped from the team may actually be the incentive he needs to rediscover his form if that's what he believes. IMO he hasn't been convincing over the last 4-5 years and yes he had scored centuries in that period but how many of his contributions have influenced the outcome of teh game? To put in another way, if Tendulkar hadn't played the last 5 years would we have missed him? It's sad but other than maybe a handful of games at most the answer is no.

  • POSTED BY correctcall on | December 18, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Time for you to show some real leadership Dravid and make a very public call for the BCCI to accept DRS. It would be the single most important contribution you can make to Indian cricket by getting the rehabilitation process started.

  • POSTED BY Sir.Ivor on | December 18, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    The others I would like to include for a closer scrutiny are Mandip Singh the Punjab batsman, Sandeep Sharma who could end up as Indi'a Philander, and Karnataka's Mithun. Since India's foreign tour redemption is going to be against the World Champions South Africa in South Africa, it is as good as it gets and could well serve as the benchmark for the future. There is hope because South Africa plays better abroad than at home !!. Duncan Fletcher has been demonised just too much. I feel he has a lot to offer Indian cricket in terms of talent scouting. Maybe this is where he should express himself. In making a list of batsmen who could play well in alien conditions like South Africa,and England Australia and New Zealand. The idea of having different players for different conditions based on their skills could be worth trying. Who knows, the Dhawans of India could well be the Goochs and Attapatus of another day. And Ashwin could just be the new VVS. He has it all really. Revolution

  • POSTED BY TS.RAVISHANKAR on | December 18, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    Dhoni's attitude has cost us so much and it is high time we dropped him. He has always been clever to give his best effort and score a 100 whenever people started debating about his place in the side. Even the 99 he made in Nagpur has been such a knock. He is certainly the no.1 wicket keeper batsmen in the country, but he seems to have taken his place & captaincy for granted and he appears to be interested in giving his best effort only when it really matters to him. Dhoni, Sehwag, Gambhir, Ashwin -- they all have to be dropped for their 'attitude'. They have to be told that they are selected to represent India and not any stupid club or franchise. Giving them a psychological blow will surely make them come back and show more respect for the game and the fact that they representing India!

    Sachinn...we have lot of respect for you. There are lot of youngsters waiting in the wings. We know you are capable of staging a successful comeback, but please give them way!

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | December 18, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    It's very sad to hear the great RD say that he's not concerned about the Australia's visiting because they're not as strong as England but expects them to be competitive. This is exactly what is missing - the fire in the belly, the ability to bat sessions at a snail's pace without losing wickets if the situation calls for it, to bowl line and length and pack the offside if the bowlers don't look like taking wickets. We not expecting a team with new and inexperienced players to roll over touring teams, not even to win. We do want see the guys that are chosen to play for their country to engage in attritional cricket. We don't want hear Indian players on overseas tours advising the opposition things will be different when they come to India and then when they come to India, they look like they're waiting for the ODIs or IPL to begin. We what to see some fight, boring cricket if need be and selection based on sense not sentiment. It's the performances that matter, the results will follow.

  • POSTED BY UglyIndian on | December 18, 2012, 12:44 GMT

    @Kaustubh Verma - Sure people should support the team, but they will do it only as long as they feel that the team is really making an effort to win, and putting the best team forward. If the team, its captain, and its senior players keep playing, talking land behaving like idiots, then it becomes difficult for a sensible person to endorse and support this kind of stupidity. If the players can't learn or if they feel that their bank-balances are big enough, then the supporters will duly put them in their place.

  • POSTED BY Percy_Fender on | December 18, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    ...contd. Ravinder Jadeja comes across as a modern day Vinoo Mankad. He is not a bits and pieces player and will gradually become an integrated match winner, He has to be persisted with. Sehwag should bat at No 4 after Sachin leaves and maybe, bowl more in Tests. The captaincy should be Gambhir for tests, Doni for ODIs and Kohli for 20/20s. There are some young fast medium bowlers who should be made a list of for the bench and used selectively. Shami Ahmed, A S Rajpoot Bhuvaneshwar Kumar and Ishwar Panday seem good enough to join Yadav, Varun Aaron, Awana, and Dinda. Shahbaz Nadeem looks the best spinner to me with Harmeet not far behind. Chawla should be persisted with because he has every skill that a leg spinner needs. He just has to practice endlessly under someone like Warne. There are some young batsman who could be good. Their style of play could be seen by someone like Fletcher with Rahul himself. K L Rahul, Jiwanjot Singh,Ankit Bawne, should be looked at for the future.

  • POSTED BY Sir.Ivor on | December 18, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    Rahul has been very honest as he always is. But I notice that he finds it difficult to be too harsh about some of his former long time colleagues. But even in that I hope the players that he has spoken of like Sachin should see for themselves and decide. Dhoni was good once. There is no doubt about it. But that was never because of anything else but a remarkable run of good luck. Not captaincy dynamics like say a Mark Taylor or a Mike Clark could conjure up.Today that luck has run out and he has become an object of derision and ridicule. More so by his demand for wickets to suit India and Probir Mukherji's ( the Eden curator ) holding press conferences to show who the boss was. It was all too ridiculous and painful for many followers of the game. Dhoni is not the man to take India forward any more. Gambhir always did reasonably well in South Africa and against them. So he should be made the Captain immediately so that he can get used to things around him and his dramatis personae...

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | December 18, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    The first and foremost thing that we need to take out of conversation is that SRT has been "a huge servant of the game". He has not been a servant. He is playing for his benefit. This is his profession. He has gained lot more from cricket than what has given and could give. As a non-performer, he should be treated any different than others. As long as we have this mentality in the selection, good luck in getting any meaningful improvements. The way SRT is now playing, he will fail against Aussies too. The role of selection, captain and coach needs to be evaluated too.

  • POSTED BY cloudmess on | December 18, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Why does no-one ever question the has-been coach who, over the past 18 months, has masterminded India's nose-dive from best in the world to one of the worst?

  • POSTED BY crindex on | December 18, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    Dhoni Bashers - please think before you slander this man. He is shouldering BCCI, politicians and out of form players and aged players who refuse to retire. Done make him a scape goat for team's failure.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | December 18, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    Australia will trounce the team lead by Dhoni 4-0, the end! He is not a leader in Test matches but a player living in hope having confidence in his own players.

  • POSTED BY Un_Citoyen_Indien on | December 18, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    @ Hammond. Lol, Bugatti Veyron indeed. Who would you say is the best person for the job then? A serious reply would be nice :)

    I'm only asking because I can't see anyone suitable yet. Hopefully your perspective as an outsider can enlighten me......

  • POSTED BY ipraty on | December 18, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    I don't think virat kohli is matured enough to guide the team forward. He has the energy but it need to be groomed. Dhoni needs to take advice from ganguly.

  • POSTED BY challagalla on | December 18, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    I would have Rahane and Gambhir open with Sehwag coming lower down. SRT has to announce his retirement now or be dropped. Rohit Sharma or Tiwari could come in his place . Yadav, Ishant Sharma , Ojha , Ashwin or a new spinning option can be tried. The Aussies come in Feb where the pitches will be drier and the weather hotter. We need to shore up our spinning options . Chawla and Jadeja are ordinary.

  • POSTED BY Ray24 on | December 18, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    India should focs on improving their capability and not their rankings. Rankings follow when your capabilities improve. In trying to show the world how good they are, BCCI and this Indian team have manipulated the system in every thinkable and unthinkable way. I rate all Indian victories hollow, they have done nothing good abroad in all these years. Having umpires on their side, no DRS, fighting with all teams and boards, this hasn't gained them fans either. All that India has achieved is because of BCCI, not because they are talented. When you treat a world class superstar like Dravid as second to Sachin, who BWT plays for his own records and not the team, then this is what you deserve. The same goes for flat track bullies like Shewag and Gambhir, you are no match to Laxman or Ganguly. I am very happy that this has come sooner than I expected, hopefully Indians wake up and realize that cricket and every other field in life is very competitive - work hard!

  • POSTED BY Un_Citoyen_Indien on | December 18, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    A captain cannot do each and everything by himself. He needs his batsmen to score runs and his bowlers to pick wickets. Even the most successful test captain in the world (Ricky Ponting) had the services of OUTSTANDING performers (Hayden, Langer, Martyn, Symonds, Gilchrist, Warne, Gillespie, Lee, and McGrath). Please note that while our team HAD performers, even we managed to become the best test team in the world!

    Tendulkar and Sehwag are past their sell by date. We need an opener like A. Cook (who averages 100 balls faced per dismissal versus Sehwag's 60 odd). I see Rahane filling his slot. Gambhir lacks both technique and temperament to excel in tests. An alternate opener will need to be found. R. Sharma was always a better test player than a limited overs player. Along with Jadeja, Kohli, Pujara and Ashwin, the future of India's middle order looks promising.

    Dhoni is the person to lead India for at least another year till Kohli or Ashwin become viable options to lead us.

  • POSTED BY skpillai on | December 18, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Rahul Dravid with all respect is a humble guy and cant go against his good time old friend sachin or even dhoni. He want we all fools to be patient,8-0 no issues 2-1 no issues, another 3-0 loss to oz no issues. Common guys, do u have guts to prepare a green top even against a team called kenya. All this fellows, including dravid came with strong back up. If there is a legitimate selector who wants his team to win, then there are many choice. Let me tell you sreeshant is not the fastest bowler kerala produced, there are people who can bowl faster than him. Sree came with sk nairs support. Kerala is way below in domestic results and if its happening in a province like kerala what would have been happening in other provinces, Its agonising to see that an expiry item is struggling in the middle just like kapil at the end of his career and person like rahane is watching from pavilion just like a quikie like sreenath was watching. We got kuruwila and angola when they are exprd

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | December 18, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    The selectors should look long and hard for a spinner of significant potential who may not have played too many first class matches. Ojha, Ashwin etc are not quite the lead spinner and they will do better when a lead spinner is doing damage. I also think Gambhir is increasingly a liability as an opener. His technique will not serve him well on foreign tours. Time to find the next Akash Chopra - a solid and sure opener in alien conditions who can allow Sehwag to play his natural game.

  • POSTED BY Shridharan.S on | December 18, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    Suresh Raina Should Be The T20I Captain , Gautam Gambhir The Test Captain And MS Dhoni The ODI Captain . Virat Kohli Should Be Groomed As A Captain For Sometime.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    Yes, Agree.. we need to have proper plan to betterment of Indian Cricket, its not like Dhoni suddenly become the worst captain, sometimes it happens; your moves dont work. We just need to move on with proper Planning, Select bunch of good bowlers ( both Fast and Spin) and try and groom them in international matches with combination of senior players. And Split Captaincy what many of the senior folks are talking about, can be a good idea.

  • POSTED BY Mitcher on | December 18, 2012, 9:27 GMT

    I'm a massive fan of Dravid as a cricketer and a man. And I tend to agree with his fairly blunt assessment of where Australia is at regarding spin and our chances on the tour to India (tho anything is possible with current state of team India). But if he is going to be so blunt in assessing other sides, maybe a bit less sugar coating of the Indian situation. Though its very unusual for a recently retired player to speak openly a out former colleagues, for obvious reasons.

  • POSTED BY prinson11 on | December 18, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    Players like Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Rahane, Vijay, Awana, Mukund should be given chance...May be against the Aussies.....Rest the Oldies and Bring on New Talents......

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    the problem for India is the players attitude towards test cricket. In all the 4 tests, some of the players never put 100% efforts. I question their commitment. Look @ today's AUS vs SL how each team fought, put their efforts, hw much energetic AUS are in the field, hw the SL batsmen fought. That is the commitment u need. Look @ gambhir, sehwag, sachin, kohli, dhoni no commitment.. just go to the crease play few overs throw ur wicket. They did not learn anything from the opponent team, particularly from COOK. If they want to improve they would have learnt from opponent team. After the 2nd test I just stopped following the IND's test matches on cricinfo live scores.. I just followed AUS vs SA and now AUS vs SL. If there is not fight/commitment I hate to watch that match

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    People talk bout Gambhir and Sehwag.. I feel they have done quite a satisfactory job in the series.. i wud not say that they were brilliant but yes they gave us a few starts. The team has to rebuild itself with some real test players quittting out of the game n players like sachin not able to score.. I think its time for sachin to hang up his boots and someone to play a home series before goin overseas so as to feel what international test cricket is all about.. yes we r not the ones to comment on sachin's retirement but i guess sachin himself is and he needs to take this responsibility for the betterment of Indian cricket team. In my opinion Suresh Raina is not a kind of batsmen for test cricket but in home series he cud hv been a better option than sachin as we hv seen the scores of sachin.. nothing except for a 76 in one innings...

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 18, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    Seriously, is Dravid somehow trying to make sure that there should be more humiliation to Dhoni and Statchin? Is he holding a grudge against Dhoni, in particular? Otherwise, how could he say that Dhoni can take India forward, even if he has the joy to take it forward? That man Dhoni just doesn't have it in him to play proper test cricket. I'm surprised at Dravid's assessment of Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY 100_rabh on | December 18, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    @natasrik, very rightly said. Everyone calling for Dhoni's head but who after him. Virat has just 2-3 innings of substance in his test career so far and chances are that if gets the captaincy, he will become a puppet of 'best opening pair in India'. If anything, i think Dhoni should be given a free hand with only coach Fletcher above him. I am sure Ravi Ashwin's tactics of refusing singles on day 4 were his own and he should be fired from this test team for couple of tests at least. Real culprits for me are our openers who apart from their underperformance, are creating rifts in this team also. Two crucial moments where India lost this series were run out of Sehwag and Pujara by Gambhir, anyone to question him?

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | December 18, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    Dhoni couldn't take a Bugatti Veyron forward. He is almost as bad a captain as Ponting was. New faces are required.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    Well said DRAVID. only dhoni can be do india forward

  • POSTED BY Anil_Koshy on | December 18, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    India should stop depending on pitches to win matches, we need to have good players to win matches. India was a good team till a few years back because we had good players like Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly and Tendulkar. Others have retired, Tendulkar should think about the team ahead of his personal milestones. Seems he wants to play as long as he is enjoying the game, instead he should play as long as he is contributing to the team's cause. Dhoni can be seen on television commercials more than at the crease, his record is very dismal in Test matches, once in blue moon he scores a quickfire 70-80 to show his batting skills, otherwise he is below average in longer version of the game.

  • POSTED BY vish57 on | December 18, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    It is time to make Kohili/Raina as T20 captain and Gambhir as ODI captain; Dhoni need to captain test team till some one can hold their place in team and can be a captain otherwise India may have a captain who may have to make a debut as a player cum captain like Tony Lewis ( L of D/L method) who made debut against India as a player and captain in seventees. Also supporting Dravid's view on having some experience in team, worth to consider for 1-2 seasons Kaif/Badrinath as both are competent test match players nd bring Shewag in middle order

  • POSTED BY Fan1969 on | December 18, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    Dhoni - should remain. He is not the best but TINA. Kohli is too young and Gambhir/Sehwag cannot be given captaincy after an indifferent performance.

    ACTIONS. 1. Tendulkar to be dropped or he must retire IMMEDIATELY. Rahane / Rohit / Manoj to play instead at five. Kohli to bat at four. 2. A talk by selectors to Sehwag / Gambhir. Improve or else drop one or both. 3. Umesh and Varun Aaron/Shami Ahmed/Awana to be the two prong attack against Australia. Discard Zaheer and Ishant. Let us see if they can fight back. Dinda lacks class to take top order intl wickets. 4. Play Ojha and Chawla/Rahul/new under 19 spinner Harmeet Singh. Forget about Harbhajan once and for all. 5. Dhoni to bat at 6 and Ashwin at 7 against Australia at home. For SA get 1/2 batsman instead of bowlers. We can decide that after 2 tests against Australia. First win the home tests 6. Concentrate on bowlers who can get left handers out. Australia has 4 top order left handed batsmen.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:50 GMT

    We need to give more international cricket time to bowlers like Varun Aaron he is fast , just need more international cricket

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    everyone s in the view that guys like dhoni, sachin ,zaheer,sehwag and gambhir should be left and young blood should be tried.good very good.but who are the replacing players.first of all mental thinking of indian team should be changed.and above all duncan fletchert.what he had delivered to indian cricket.its important to get a new coach. 4-0 in england,4-0 in australia and now 2-1 in indian soil .its not at all acceptable. dhoni should take responsibility and should lead from the front then only india can regain their spot in test cricket. for me before australia tour unchanged squad should be played.

  • POSTED BY GerrardLK on | December 18, 2012, 8:46 GMT

    Even if you stand on your heads, India will never win a test series in future. This is an undeniable truth. I'm sure this will hurt Indian fans very much. So you guys better stop watching Indian cricket immediately for your good health.

  • POSTED BY VJGS on | December 18, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    BCCI must select and maintain a pool of players who they believe are Test material, like Pujara. These players should be be shielded from the T20 effect until they gain some maturity. I think Ojha and Ashwin should also be in that pool. It's obvious that T20 is ruining the temperament and patience of the youngsters. Ashwin for example might have some skill, but doesn't stick to his basics and tries too many variations too soon. At the Test level, patience is the key - like Dhoni and Kohli proved in the 4th Test

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:43 GMT

    All MSD fans.. try to understand that, MSD is fully exposed now and finished in TEST cricket. don't support him anymore. he has not won even a single test match on his own.. INDIA has claimed to NO-1 spot in TEST on the pillars laid by GANGULY, KUMBLE..and tremendous contributions from DRAVID, VVS, SHEWAG, GAMBHIR, ZAHEER & BHAJJI.. MSD just got the trophy for NO-1 spot in TEST from ICC..

    but everyone will agree that he is wonderful player in ODI & T20 and can continue his captaincy some more time..a captain who cannot make his team win in home , should not even tour to countries like AUS,SA,& ENG...as for as the TEST matches are concerned, MSD should not b there in the team at all.

    make Gambhir captain and VIRAT his deputy.. and give cahnce to real TEST match players like (technically strong) Rahane, Bist, Mukund, Rohith, Pankaj singh, Dinesh Karthick, PP,...etc.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:36 GMT

    Good to see fans Indian fans supporting their team only in the good times...now is the time when the team needs us most people!! Stay positive...sport is not a one way traffic...teams rise and teams fall. Sure there is no places for mediocracy but lets be sure that boots like Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman, Zaheer will not be filled overnight. Be patient !!

  • POSTED BY vish57 on | December 18, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    Relationship with the players are strong, so Dravid join the bandwagon of Players turned commentators being diplomatic on their estwhile collegues. "You too Dravid". All said and done we have weakness from batsmen 1 to 6; occassional century should not hold a player in playing XI. Right time to have few tours from weaker teams such as Bangladesh (they have never toured India to play test) NewZealand or West Indies or even Sri Lanka so that we can settle batsmen 1 to 6 with some experimentation. If we try against AUS/SA/Eng we will have another failure series only. Equally weak is our pace attack and more so our spin; Ohja and Ashwin are unable to take wickets. We need one spin coach in the team; don't live on past glory, Eng/Pak/SL even WI/BD have better spinners than our spinners. After all Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman and Kumble have played 100 test matches together, team building takes time. Consistency is different and one season heros are different. Let us hope for best

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    Dhoni is not the problem for india, so there is no issue with his captaincy. I think Dravid is right, Dhoni is suitable candidate at this time and also coming years.

  • POSTED BY KrizRKO on | December 18, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    So here it goes,

    Select Zaheer for any test tours both abroad and home series, and play him in the XI for the first match alone where he should be partnered along with either one amongst - Awana, Dinda, Ishant or Umesh (based on the same sequence) - It would be a good learning experience for either of these guys to bowl along with Zak in tandom.

    From the 2nd test of the series, unless and until Zak is on a high and only when the results does matters a lot, Play Zak. Other than that Play Umesh, Ishant, and/or Awana or Dinda based on pitch conditions, availabilty and performance.

    Atleast for the next 2-3 years our Pace bowling dept for tests needs these guys to be both physically and mentally prepared for huge challenges.

    Umesh | Ishant | Awana | Dinda

    Varun Aaron needs to be moulded carefully and hence it will be great to play him only in the limited overs format.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    For indian cricket to move forward, the first step would be to change the coach and the support staff. At International level, no one expects coach to teach players how to play but point out the chinks in the technique or make different strategies against opponents. THere has to be a plan B or plan C if plan A fails, but sadly Mr. Fletcher and co. have failed to deliver any plans. With loss of these three series it seems there was no plan at all, they looked not even prepared to play cricket. Replacing Dhoni or making changes will not help until and unless the think tank changes. India (under Dhoni) were number 1 side with Garry Kirsten as coach but slipped to No. 5 under same captain with Fletcher and now SOuth Africa (coach Kirsten) is No. 1 side. This clearly states that Duncan Fletcher is not doing his job. Another irony is the past selectors start commenting only after they are out of office and not take steps when they are at office.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    Whatever Rahul said are all "politically correct" answers. No answer is point blank.

    Lets not blame players but lets blame system and process. why cant we find people who can play against any attack?? Do we have any system which "produces" good players? I guess no. Jadeja got tripple centuries,, but got out cheaply here. Chawala got lesser number of overs than Jadeja,, despite piyush is a full time spinner and jadeja is part time. Did any one watching live telecast felt,, even for a second that our spinners are "bothering" english batsmen???. The fire of kumble is missing,,,aggression of srinath is missing,,,,

  • POSTED BY KrizRKO on | December 18, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    With respect to pace bowling department, its high time for us to got the Kiwi way. It might sound odd, but Kiwis have provided us with a good master tactic. the usually play Chris Martyn in the first test of a series along with Southee and when Southee gets to the grove, they drop Martyn and partner Southee with Either Bracewell or Boult. It has paid them rich dividends. We can't drop Zaheer at any point of time, since it may be a huge gamble, eventhough Zak might be out of rythm these days.

  • POSTED BY deol84 on | December 18, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    well they have to say what bcci have orderd, otherwise no pension for the players,look at kapil dev made his own icl(indian cricket leauge) what happen after he rejoined the bcci.If you are inian fan you should use to it dosent matter if is dravid,kumble or little diasastor tendulkar.

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | December 18, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    it was Dhoni who disrespected seniors like Dravid,laxman. But the true gentleman dravid still backs dhoni, which i think is still the best option available for indian team at present.

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | December 18, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    The next team will be Australia who they have already started taking lightly despite the home thrashing by England. Warner, Watson, Hussy, Clark they all play IPL and they all have experience of Indian conditions. Only god knows how these toothless Indian bowler will get them! Yes Dhoni will definitely "Take The Thrashing forward" for yet another series humiliation in front of the home crowd. Oooops! Soon there will be no crowd at all!

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | December 18, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    This was the least expected at least from DRAVID whom i respect a lot. All these commentary people Kapil, Sahshtri, Ganguly, Gavaskar and now Dravid also just says what BCCI order them to say on Air. Dhoni don't even deserve the place in the Test team...then how can he be the captain? Very disappointing from dravid.

  • POSTED BY ibrahim_y on | December 18, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    I don't know how worst should it go to get better from there.... No point in blaming Dhoni...its the BCCI which needs to be questioned

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | December 18, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    India needs a captain who will find solutions, not extend and refine his already extensive list of excuses. He just seems to let the game meander along and hopes for the best, hardly admirable qualities in a leader.

  • POSTED BY vr.mandalapu on | December 18, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    What Indian selectors need to do is rotation of players and choosing at least slightly different teams for different formats.That gives opportunities to new and promising players and in that process the selection commitee will have more options to choose when some senior players do not deliver goods as expected. But unfortunately every body is trying to play safe game and showing no imagination. How else could we explain the absence of parvinder awana in the final playing eleven?

  • POSTED BY yohan0409 on | December 18, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    I think Rahul Dravid is right for backing Dhoni to take forward india, Kohli is doing good in batting, and i don't see any leadership skill in him like dhoni has, I dont agree just bcos kohli is playing good he should lead the team, about sehway & gambhir their minds & body language are for only ODIs and T20 not tests...! So Dhoni is right choice to lead india..!!

  • POSTED BY Simoc on | December 18, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    Dhoni is the only available option for captaincy and is also their best player. It seems Zaheer is finished, Jadjega is not yet at test standard and Indias problems stem from the crap pitches they deliver for tests. Dhonis call for spinning wickets backfired in his face. Englands have a strong team at present but that's a once in a lifetime event so you don't get carried away to much. Normally they would have chucked in the towel as they did to Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    Dhoni has always been the same, "Plan and try to execute. No plan B's". Just that he dont have a team which can execute his plans. We need a captain who is more aggressive on the field. Kohli does look an option, but not immediately. We still need Dhoni atleast till a good team is built for Kohli to lead. Gambhir, I dont think is a real captaincy material. Giving Jadeja a look in was also a good move, rewarding domestic performance. But Piyush Chawla in the lineup is utter non-sense. Its was one step forward and two steps backward. A fast bowler or Ajinkya Rahane should have got that slot. If the spinners are average, 4 is no better than 3, when you have people like Shewag who could have been better than all four on his day. Rahane deserves a place in the XI for all he has done so far. Hope the horses for courses doesnt rob us of a genuine talent.

  • POSTED BY dinesh.lizen on | December 18, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    I request everyone to be calm guys. Look at us, We all are so knowledgeable in cricket tat we started to pour in our advices to the Legends of the game. And then Dhoni..is this the attitude wat we show for the man who has give us 2 world cups. Have some more Patience guys. Its not the same to sit and talk, to do this, to do tat wen compared to that in the middle.Remember this is the time we need to show our full fledged support to our team.What have we all done for the man who has played non stop cricket for almost 25 years, other then money. If at all we can do something, it is this to allow the great man to execute his own plans.

  • POSTED BY deepak_sholapurkar on | December 18, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Its sad to seen Dravid turning out to be in the mode of SMG and RS. Protecting the BCCI/Senior players.

  • POSTED BY a1s2 on | December 18, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    @jimbound i agree with you and shame on you two hrishiuk and raja.no doubt that ganguly was a good captain and a great batsman but can you 2 remind me how ganguly was removed from captaincy. maybe something to do with the early 2005 and also defeats to pakistan in 2005(in india).at that time ganguly was the one who was trying to play for his place and form.don't believe me?then check out the videos of 3rd test match in 2005 between india and pakistan and also the odi series.the crowd were booing him and were happy when he got out.but in the end he still was a good cricketer.but stuff like dravid wicket keeping and stuff?really?i think ganguly was the one who is being more selfish and guys dravid just retired so of course he's not gonna start criticzing the indian team which he was recently with.

  • POSTED BY ruog on | December 18, 2012, 7:46 GMT

    After going back so much, there can be only one move - forward, or no move at all, i.e., stop playing test cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    India must decide their priorities. Eng decided and built their first class structure, programme and team management accordingly. If BCCI wants Dhoni and others to play everywhere IPL, ODIs, T20s, Tests, Champions League then I believe they will perform like zombies even in ODIs and T20s

  • POSTED BY rohanbala on | December 18, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    Dravid sounds diplomatic in saying Dhoni can be the man to take India forward.. Probably, Dravid does not want to hurt the Indian captain. I am beginning to feel Dravid is also fast becoming one in/being drawn into the old group of Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri and Harsha who more often than not remain biased.

  • POSTED BY sohaibahmad on | December 18, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    take india forward? they are already on the edge... so one step more and its all over

  • POSTED BY Sanj747 on | December 18, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    Hard to see if Dhoni really cares. Based on what we have seen in the last 18 months there is no passion for the long form of the game. Changes need to be made. No point in living with false hope. Australia will like being underestimated.

  • POSTED BY eng_mdkhan on | December 18, 2012, 7:34 GMT

    @ sultana95...to be honest the demeanour of our 'Hungry for success' youngsters does not really give you any encouragement. The system should be purely merit based and only then will you get real champions, this lacks in our culture actually.

  • POSTED BY dosapati_anand on | December 18, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    These dull, conventional notions of these formal players with their false positivity and I-am-not-going-to-put-down-anyone attitude disgusts me no end. There isn't a single redeeming idea offered by Dravid there completely ignoring the fundamenta chronic illnesses plaguing India. It is surprising from a man who has resigned to the captaincy unable to bear with the apathetic patriarchal mindset of a corrupt Board which doesn't even acknowledge the need to reform let alone taking initiative to kick-start the reformation. And why the hell selectors need to discuss anything with Tendulkar? If a player is not performing well they have the every right to sack him. It is common sense. No? And what does he mean by saying there aren't many people who can take a decision on Tendulkal? Is he above all?

  • POSTED BY Ayush_Chauhan on | December 18, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    @jimbond You cannot be further from the truth, Saurav basically backed Dravid, when the world accused him of being too slow for ODI cricket, Dravid by his own admission owes his ODI career to Dravid. Look at what happened once Saurav and Dravid got off captaincy, Dravid lost his spot once again, as everyone agreed that he was too slow for ODI. Saurav

  • POSTED BY Matinhashmi on | December 18, 2012, 7:27 GMT

    Dhoni should not blamed alone, every body is the responsible for the test defeat, batsman, bowler both. When he won the world cup everybody said Dhoni is the historical Captain, Dhoni intelligent etc. Now what happened. In my opinion, nothing wrong with his captaincy, some senior players couldnot deliver their full performance. If India change captain, they would not find the man like him. As a Pakistani fan of Dhoni,he is the greatest captain ever India has produced and if they loose him, they can not find the man like Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Why are we (including Rahul Dravid) taking selectors' mantle? Is it not the job of selectors to decide who should be the captain and who all should play ?

    Who Rahul Sravid is trying to protect ? Is it Dhoni and Sachin ? Are they still in the level to be protected by outside forces ? Can they not retain their positions by themselves ? If so, that itself shows they should be dropped from respective positions. If not, let us leave it to selectors - if they have spine.

  • POSTED BY mollik on | December 18, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    hope india will bcci will change their captain

  • POSTED BY dijikut on | December 18, 2012, 7:21 GMT

    bring back sreeshanth.......a genuine fast bowler for India....

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 7:21 GMT

    Its really harsh to blame dhoni. I'm sure there are lots of differences in the dressing room. Sehwag and Gambhir some how wanted to let down Dhoni and hence they are performing when ever they wanted. If they wanted captaincy, they could come up directly and beg fr it. Wonder why they are getting out cheaply and making others criticize Dhoni. If u see Sehwag, he dropped sooooo many catches and how could u expect a team when ur senior player is carring ego with his good mate gambhir supporting him blindly.. Throw them out and bring Rahane and someone may be a Wasim Jaffer or Vijay or may be Rohit Sharma.. They are far better than these selfish idiots Sehwag and Gambhir.

  • POSTED BY eng_mdkhan on | December 18, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    I think Rahul Dravid has done it the right way. Having played with all these guys for so many years how can anyone expect him to be blunt. He has clearly stated repeatedly infact that introspection is the need of the hour. Although I am not a great fan of Sachin but such is his genius that you would normally leave it upto him to decide when to retire but not at the cost of team's success, this is where Dravid got it wrong. However, how else could he have put it? Dravid played along Sachin for all of his carreer. It is sad though that Sachin is in denial mode and is not acknowledging the signals that all his former team mates and seniors are sending some sugar coated and some sizzling hot. Anyways my 2 cents on the matter is to sack Dhoni as TEST captain, let Ashwin play as an allrounder up the order, Gambir as captain and Kohli VC, scrap Raina, Rohit Sharma, etc. they had their shot at test cricket., bring back Munaf and Irfan along with youngsters to groom them for forthcoming series

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | December 18, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    Clearly everyone is scared of Tendulkar. The man himself should have enough pride to retire and enjoy the accolades, not the ignomy of fading away in mediocrity. It is sad to watch him and leaves the wrong legacy. Give a younger player with a back foot technique a try. Pujara will not do well overseas as he is almost exclusively a front foot player.

  • POSTED BY Susant_RD146 on | December 18, 2012, 7:19 GMT

    Mr.hrishiuk... Let me tell you one thing about Dravid in 2002-2004 period where he kept the wicket..He has average 60.00(in ICC Champions Trophy 2002), (Netwest 49.00), (West indies-75.00,2002 ), (WC - 2003, 63.00) and in TVS cup he has average 45.00 (Please Go through Cricinfo.com) and don't tell that he was there because of Saurav Ganguly. He was there because of his outstanding performance and great Savior of Indian cricket team. He made a sacrifice and to play another batsman in that keeper place. And I think you don't have a little knowledge about cricket..So please don't judge the potential of the great LEGEND. However discussion about the captaincy..Gambhir is not in his touch so Virat is the best choice for Captaincy, only if Dhoni left that place for someone. Finally, it's my request that Don't post these ridiculous/non-sense comment and allegation about GREAT Sir Rahul Dravid.

  • POSTED BY Leggie on | December 18, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    These interviews are extremely boring - in the sense that the person who responds cannot & will not share his true feelings. Being part of the 8-0 whitewash himself, Dravid cannot come out suddenly and say what's wrong with Indian cricket. He was very much part of a senior management team and should have been involved in the decision making process. Same goes to ex-selectors such as Srikkanth. Gives a feeling that the problem with Indian cricket is a lot more deep rooted and it's a miracle that we achieved what we achieved between 2000 and 2011.

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | December 18, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    Dravid makes sense. If you sack Dhoni who will take on leadership? How can Ghambir be leader of men? IPL joke is different but this is about being the face of India; Ghambir has the personality of a defiant kid at best. Kohli is still not good enough as a test batsman. And don't read too much into technique; Dhoni is more than a good batsman in India and good for a wicket keeper batsman abroad. Just give him a 3 good batsman (India has none now) and 3 good bowlers (India has only Ojah). Dhoni will turn it around in 3 years.

  • POSTED BY Sultana95 on | December 18, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    *MUST GO LIST* Dhoni Tendulkar Zaheer Harbhajan Ashwin ( as a spinner) Sehwag Gambhir N. Srinivasan All these people I think should be out for a better future.

    Dravid can be as polite as he wishes to be but the truth of the matter is, these folks must simply make way for a hungrier generation who want success. This lot saw it enough and now can sit in the commentary box with Dravid discussing polite behavioral patterns

  • POSTED BY Matinhashmi on | December 18, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Dhoni should not blamed alone, every body is the responsible for the test defeat, batsman, bowler both. When he won the world cup everybody said Dhoni is the historical Captain, Dhoni intelligent etc. Now what happened. In my opinion, nothing wrong with his captaincy, some senior players couldnot deliver their full performance. If India change captain, they would not find the man like him. As a Pakistani fan of Dhoni,he is the greatest captain ever India has produced and if they loose him, they can not find the man like Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    'Dhoni can be the man to take India forward'... He will take India so forward that India will forget and can not come back to the sol of cricket i.e. Test Cricket.. He can not win in India having 3/4 spinners in the team on spin friendly wickets.. He has totally killed Test Cricket. He is far away of being Test Cricketer. Kick him out along with sehwag tendulkar and gambhir.. My dream test team is.. Mukund/Unmukt, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli(c), Rohit/Tiwari, Karthik/Saha(wk), Irfan, Ashwin, Aaron/Oza, Umesh, Dinda.. Then only we can expect to win... Else we can sea what is happening....

  • POSTED BY sydneydesiguy on | December 18, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    Dont agree with Dravid at all. I agree with comments here about Gambhir leading the team. If no changes are made soon even Australia who everybody is so underestimating will thrash India. Does BCCI have any conscience at all! Tendy should retire and told to do so. He did play well and got what he deserved whilst he played. Nobody is bigger than the game itself.

  • POSTED BY jimbond on | December 18, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @Raja Chakraborty and hrishiuk You mention that

    'Rahul Dravid that you were in the team bcoz Sourav made u to keep Wickets behinf the stumps'

    In reality this was the most foolish and selfish piece of Ganguly's captaincy. Not only did he overload the best batsman in the side (because of whom Ganguly's captaincy record is good), but he also refused to bowl to offer balance to the side. Instead he made Dravid keep, so that India could play one extra batsman or bowler.

    Dhoni may not inspire the team anymore, but he has been the most inspired choice as captain, and he performed in the first few years.

    Dravid's analysis is like his batting- down to earth, honest and direct. However, it may make sense for Dhoni himself to move ahead from captaining and start contributing more as a keeper and [particularly as the attacking batsman that he used to be.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | December 18, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    Reason for lossing, simple. The passion to play test cricket is not there anymore. And rightly so, as T20 has emerged as the right way of playing cricket. Short, smart and entertaining too.

    Just look at all the other sports, apart from Golf every other sport has a duration of 1 hr to 3 hr range. T20 pefectly falls in it and this is the way we play it in begining in our schools most of the time.

  • POSTED BY natasrik on | December 18, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    Dravid is right as far as with Dhoni's stance for team india.Sunny has gone nuts, virat who struggled the whole series before the century in nagpur. Credit for virat playing that kind of innings should go to Dhoni also who was at the other end, Mr cool. It is Dhoni's magic again. To me the reason why India played on the 4 day morning is pretty straight, they just wanted to come close to England total with caution rather than bang bang which could have resulted in a bigger lead for England. Please don't forget the England Second innings in Kolkata, when they needed just 41 to win, they were 6 for 3, in my opinion that was the mind game Dhoni and Co were looking for on the 4 th day morning of Nagpur test. As pundit say people should sit with Sachin to discuss further on his career, the same can be said about for our Mr Cool, I think it will work wonders for team India and I still feel Mr Cool is the right person.

  • POSTED BY SridharKalyan on | December 18, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    Rahul - I, like millions in India, had great respect for you. I am sorry to say that if you continue to side-step the issue facing Indian Cricket today, you will be no different from the many fools who have no guts to call a spade a spade. Dhone, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Zaheer Khan, Yuvaraj, Gambhir, Harbhajan, et al - have all been exposed time and again, both at home and overseas. It is time to look at a totally clean-slate beginning -and build for future. The only way to do is to go for youth and invest both trust and time in them. Give Kohli the mantle and select a group of about 25 talented youngsters (no one to be over 25) - and build the core team for each formats. Is the senior brigade like you, VVS, Sourav Ganguly willing to put your shoulders to this process and help Indian Cricket find its future? If yes, please do. If not, the least you can do is to SHUT UP and stop talking diplomatic crap like you have done in your article above. SHAME.

  • POSTED BY UglyIndian on | December 18, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    What is wrong with this country? Why can't anyone call a spade, a spade? I'm doubly disappointed with Dravid. I really thought he'd be the one to speak his mind, and be candid. Sadly, he's started to go down the same drain as the Bhogle's, Gavaskar's and Shastri's of this world. We all saw how incapable both Dhoni and Tendulkar have become. This was a HOME series lost. There is no place to hide. No more 'we'll see you at home' bs to fall back on. The selectors need to grow a pair and chop a few blocks off. Or maybe the criteria for being a selector is to have your pair chopped off before taking the position.

  • POSTED BY meastrostroke on | December 18, 2012, 6:45 GMT

    @hrishiuk , " Most imp Gambhir is hungry to lead". Even Harbhajan is hungry to lead. Gambhir is as good as harbhajan. Living in his past, has big mouth. No recent records and stats to help him and speaking to media and believes he had done enough to merit his place. Dhoni isnt a superman to win matches through captaincy. Given the current Team India, even steve waugh, punter, hansie cronje wil hide his place. No bowlers to execute plans, no new comers living to expectations, seniors expecting for captaincy with no role. giving captaincy to sehwag or gambhir is a suicidal attempt. Ashwin/Kholi may be the right person.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:44 GMT

    Kick out tendlya ,he is just spoiling the things for too long. Dravid . is wrong when he says Tendulkar should take the decision .remove zaheer .give chances to new players,even if they fail,persist with them,that's better than giving hundreds of chances to tendlya ,.

  • POSTED BY AnilKumarK on | December 18, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    @hrishiuk - Can you please let me know,At what level you are playing cricket or Upto what extent you know about cricket? Please try to respect Legends of Cricket like Dravid, who served Indian team for so many years and achieved a lot in his Life.

  • POSTED BY Nilesh_T on | December 18, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Fully agree to all the comments so far,Rahul is only being diplomatic and goody goody in protecting Dhoni, SRT and Sehwag by saying they need to take emotions out. What utter nonsense,what about the emotions of the millions of Indian fans who have been taken for a jolly ride with 10 losses in three series. How much more worse should it get before the exit path is shown to these demi gods whose casual attitude,laziness on field,lack of application and reliance on past laurels to remain in team is a laughing stock in the cricket world. C'mon Rahul, this is not expected from you. Dhoni has lost all respect and his list of excuses is now sounding school-boyish really. Get in the Rahanes,Tiwarys and Parvinders of the world and farewell the old guard. In a country like Australia such utter non performance would have got the chop ages ago.

  • POSTED BY beakay on | December 18, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Rahul you are as polite and diplomatic as you always been. Need to be forthright atleast now - no need to be diplomatic any more. Eye strongly believe, Indian cricket needs a complete revamp including the BCCI if you want Indian cricket to standup and count. Otherwise it will fade like Indian Hockey and even with empteen insulins and injections,it would be very difficult to revive. You need to grow a team for the future and you need full of energetic and passionate people who love the GAME cricket more than everything. Individuals or their fames hardly matter. People who are passionate and proud should be prodded up and brought up. BCCI too needs genuine ,selfless ,Nation loving and Game loving people and ofcourse with good administrative capacity too. So be straight forward - Dhonis-tendulkars-shewags or Gambars are all outdated - they dont retain the same passion anymore - just because they played better cricket one day long back does not mean that they should be around all the time.

  • POSTED BY Narbavi on | December 18, 2012, 6:41 GMT

    Those who bash Dravid please i recommend u to go and learn something about cricket then comment, no one can analyse and provide suggestion better than a certain Rahul Dravid, whatever he said here is absolutely true!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    Now after all the rubbishes that have been going around thats a really sensible thought from the best thinker of Indian cricket

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    i am very much agree with "hrishiuk" s comment....

    " India needs Captian like Ganguly who is ruthless and also who can built team like he did before 2003 Worldcup. Pls dont forget Rahul Dravid that you were in the team bcoz Sourav made u to keep Wickets behinf the stumps and gave you another life to stay in Indian Cricket especially ODIS, and the result was you clicked."

  • POSTED BY meastrostroke on | December 18, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax1=18+Dec+2012;spanmin1=01+jan+2011;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting SRT and Dhoni only behind Dhoni for last 2 years and you guys still want gambhir and sehwag to captain. lol. Dropping dhoni and SRT is not the right choice. The whole team isnt performing. Somebody who is opening in tests and still the average is around 30, thats the sad state of indian cricket. This series loss is due to complete batting failure. Make Ashwin as captain (Vettori way), get in some useful bowler. Even pattinson,cummins,starc dont have huge domestic record to back them up. At this stage, Please arrange a tour to bangladesh, srilanka, Get some 5-6 good new players and rest/drop Sehwag,gambhir,srt,dhoni,zaheer. Let see what happens then.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    After those 4-0 x 2 humiliations, T20 WC humiliations, Asia Cup humiliations, Home series humiliations, pitch controversies still Dhoni has many supporters both from the fans, board and former players. No future for Indian Cricket

  • POSTED BY Vids on | December 18, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    well hrishuik... i would definitely like to know what is the level of your brain and experience to doubt DRAVD's thoughts. If I were you, I would sit and listen when a person of that caliber talks about Cricket, which the whole of Australia did. But in India every other guy has an opinion of own. and the main problem is s/he believes its the best opinion :)

  • POSTED BY crindex on | December 18, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    I agree with Drvid. Dhoni is the only man in the team who can show leadership in these difficult times for India. Every one else is either lack experience or too old or too selfish.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | December 18, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    Dravid , you wrong sir. Dhoni is not the man to move india forward. Not for me. His defensive captaincy and want to lose 2-1 rather than 3-1 big no no for me. He try to protect himself by not going for win. This guy lost 10-0. Ofcourse he did not directly contributed to all losses but he did indirectly. He did not get the team under him working towards single goal. He is a great politician for future because he always have friggin excuses. We all know whats wrong with india. Bowlers. If he keeps sehwag cool , india is still good. He can be captain only if sehwag says. Unless you get rid of sehwag and gambhir. For me openers get stagnant. Coaching stagnant and coach is clueless. I am not sure what you found in duncan for me he is unfit for india. India do not need technical coach. India need a coach who keeps different groups in the team happy and work for same goal. that the job. I would like gambhir captain and kohli as vc and Dinesh karthik wicket keeper in test.

  • POSTED BY Analytical_Sathya on | December 18, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    Rahul...You was one of the greatest batsmen, but a poor judge of people. Dhoni is certainly not the man to take Indian cricket forward.Among the current cricketers it's only Gautam Gambhir who has the capability and vision required to take india to the higher level.

  • POSTED BY Bapi on | December 18, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    Australia may not have Swan or panesar, but they have very good seamers and last time when they beat India, it was due to their seamers.

    As far Dhoni is concerned, I think India need him as a wicket keeper batsman. So give captaincy to somebody else like Kohli. But please not Gambhir or Sehwag.

  • POSTED BY Thyagu5432 on | December 18, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    I dont understand how anybody can say we need Captain like Ganguly when Dhoni himself has won us 2 world cups and has taken our team to the pinnacle in test rankings. So we need captain like Dhoni. So if Dhoni can be like Dhoni, he can continue or else we need to find another Dhoni. However, if we find the old Dhoni in somebody (including in the current Dhoni), we also would need the old Sachin and the old Sehwag back. If the old Sachin and old Sehwag are not in the current Sachin and current Sehwag, they also need to pave way for somebody else who have the old Sachin and old Sehwag in them. So goes to Zaheer as well. There are plenty who have the potential to be Sachin and Sehwag but not sure if there is anybody who has the potential to be a Zaheer or Kumble. I pity the Indian fans, it appears we may need to put up with this nonsensical performance for some more time.

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | December 18, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    @ hrishiuk , Let Gambhir get some runs first before aspring to become captain..some purple patch early in his career against weak AUS and NZ and now he wants to be captain.And please dont forget that the great Ganguly 's captaincy record were boosted mainly by Dravid and Laxman- who he treated badly in ODI's. Its a correct assessment by Dravid. Dhoni has to to continue if he has the passion...

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | December 18, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    A whole lot o rubbish from Dravid, I am sorry to say it because I have a lot of respect for Dravid as a cricketer. Dhoni is not the man for the job. He does no have the confidence in the new players and it shows in their performances. India needs radical changes which means removing the captain and Duncan Fletcher. You do not need these two hanging around the new captain. I disagree with him on Tendulkar retirement issue that selectors need to have a word with him on his plans, he is beyond that time. He holds a key position in the batting order and has left India in dire straits every time with continuing failures, same goes for Shewag and Gambir.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    why is rahul dravid or for that matter anyone in Indian Cricket, be it the board, adminstrators or former players, so disgustingly diplomatic ? The fact that Indian cricket is in a dismal condition is not in a grey area anymore...its there for everyone to see. For a country, that has the largest cricket following and is the richest cricket body it is utterly pathetic to see the quality of cricket that is on display. What it needs, is someone with the authority to call a spade a spade and actually take it by its horns. Test cricket is already dying out in India and with performances like this it wont be long till it becomes a thing of a glorious past. Rahul Dravid, and all those who can make a difference please just stop being so blatantly polite and damagingly diplomatic, and be agressively proactive. Being a die hard cricket fan, I am still waiting for my Team India to actually dominate the sport, but my patience has a limit !!

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    Can Dravid please shut up backing the team? He's retired now and all he seems to do is comment on the team on a daily basis.

    Clearly we need changes in out batting and bowling. Few people are resting on laurels and they need to be sent back to the camp!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | December 18, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    Dravid is as diplomatic as ever. After reading what he says a couple of times, he advocates change where change will help and leaving things as they are where that will help. India should have a plan for now, 3 years and 5 years and none of the plans should interfere with each other The once-great players should examine where their careers should lead them now. When looking for new players, India should look for players who will be consistently good. Dhoni should stay as captain provided he wants to lead India.

    All excellent points- except that he carefully avoids discussing the tough decisions which have to be taken if India is to improve. Sometimes what is needed is not Mr. Nice Guy (and Dravid is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet), but Mr. Tough Guy. Let's see if there's anyone in the Indian set-up who is prepared to play that role.

  • POSTED BY hrishiuk on | December 18, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    Come on Rahul Dravid, Pls dont back Dhoni now after the worstest performance. First of all if his Captaincy goes he will be out of the tem in 6 months. As playing Dhoni is like putting money on Horse. Now, although you too were not a great Captian so I think you dont have that thinking brain and experience to say so much about captaincy.

    But if Indian tema wants success than there is only one formula: Gambhi as Test and Odi Skipper with Kohli as his deputy and T20 Kohli Skipper. This will work and make miracles for Indian cricket. Most imp Gambhir is hungry to lead and India needs Captian like Ganguly who is ruthless and also who can built team like he did before 2003 Worldcup. Pls dont forget Rahul Dravid that you were in the team bcoz Sourav made u to keep Wickets behinf the stumps and gave you another life to stay in Indian Cricket especially ODIS, and the result was you clicked. So pls listen to others and dont say blindly about Dhoni. It will be foolishnesh to keep Dhoni.

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  • POSTED BY hrishiuk on | December 18, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    Come on Rahul Dravid, Pls dont back Dhoni now after the worstest performance. First of all if his Captaincy goes he will be out of the tem in 6 months. As playing Dhoni is like putting money on Horse. Now, although you too were not a great Captian so I think you dont have that thinking brain and experience to say so much about captaincy.

    But if Indian tema wants success than there is only one formula: Gambhi as Test and Odi Skipper with Kohli as his deputy and T20 Kohli Skipper. This will work and make miracles for Indian cricket. Most imp Gambhir is hungry to lead and India needs Captian like Ganguly who is ruthless and also who can built team like he did before 2003 Worldcup. Pls dont forget Rahul Dravid that you were in the team bcoz Sourav made u to keep Wickets behinf the stumps and gave you another life to stay in Indian Cricket especially ODIS, and the result was you clicked. So pls listen to others and dont say blindly about Dhoni. It will be foolishnesh to keep Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | December 18, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    Dravid is as diplomatic as ever. After reading what he says a couple of times, he advocates change where change will help and leaving things as they are where that will help. India should have a plan for now, 3 years and 5 years and none of the plans should interfere with each other The once-great players should examine where their careers should lead them now. When looking for new players, India should look for players who will be consistently good. Dhoni should stay as captain provided he wants to lead India.

    All excellent points- except that he carefully avoids discussing the tough decisions which have to be taken if India is to improve. Sometimes what is needed is not Mr. Nice Guy (and Dravid is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet), but Mr. Tough Guy. Let's see if there's anyone in the Indian set-up who is prepared to play that role.

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    Can Dravid please shut up backing the team? He's retired now and all he seems to do is comment on the team on a daily basis.

    Clearly we need changes in out batting and bowling. Few people are resting on laurels and they need to be sent back to the camp!

  • POSTED BY on | December 18, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    why is rahul dravid or for that matter anyone in Indian Cricket, be it the board, adminstrators or former players, so disgustingly diplomatic ? The fact that Indian cricket is in a dismal condition is not in a grey area anymore...its there for everyone to see. For a country, that has the largest cricket following and is the richest cricket body it is utterly pathetic to see the quality of cricket that is on display. What it needs, is someone with the authority to call a spade a spade and actually take it by its horns. Test cricket is already dying out in India and with performances like this it wont be long till it becomes a thing of a glorious past. Rahul Dravid, and all those who can make a difference please just stop being so blatantly polite and damagingly diplomatic, and be agressively proactive. Being a die hard cricket fan, I am still waiting for my Team India to actually dominate the sport, but my patience has a limit !!

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | December 18, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    A whole lot o rubbish from Dravid, I am sorry to say it because I have a lot of respect for Dravid as a cricketer. Dhoni is not the man for the job. He does no have the confidence in the new players and it shows in their performances. India needs radical changes which means removing the captain and Duncan Fletcher. You do not need these two hanging around the new captain. I disagree with him on Tendulkar retirement issue that selectors need to have a word with him on his plans, he is beyond that time. He holds a key position in the batting order and has left India in dire straits every time with continuing failures, same goes for Shewag and Gambir.

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | December 18, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    @ hrishiuk , Let Gambhir get some runs first before aspring to become captain..some purple patch early in his career against weak AUS and NZ and now he wants to be captain.And please dont forget that the great Ganguly 's captaincy record were boosted mainly by Dravid and Laxman- who he treated badly in ODI's. Its a correct assessment by Dravid. Dhoni has to to continue if he has the passion...

  • POSTED BY Thyagu5432 on | December 18, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    I dont understand how anybody can say we need Captain like Ganguly when Dhoni himself has won us 2 world cups and has taken our team to the pinnacle in test rankings. So we need captain like Dhoni. So if Dhoni can be like Dhoni, he can continue or else we need to find another Dhoni. However, if we find the old Dhoni in somebody (including in the current Dhoni), we also would need the old Sachin and the old Sehwag back. If the old Sachin and old Sehwag are not in the current Sachin and current Sehwag, they also need to pave way for somebody else who have the old Sachin and old Sehwag in them. So goes to Zaheer as well. There are plenty who have the potential to be Sachin and Sehwag but not sure if there is anybody who has the potential to be a Zaheer or Kumble. I pity the Indian fans, it appears we may need to put up with this nonsensical performance for some more time.

  • POSTED BY Bapi on | December 18, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    Australia may not have Swan or panesar, but they have very good seamers and last time when they beat India, it was due to their seamers.

    As far Dhoni is concerned, I think India need him as a wicket keeper batsman. So give captaincy to somebody else like Kohli. But please not Gambhir or Sehwag.

  • POSTED BY Analytical_Sathya on | December 18, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    Rahul...You was one of the greatest batsmen, but a poor judge of people. Dhoni is certainly not the man to take Indian cricket forward.Among the current cricketers it's only Gautam Gambhir who has the capability and vision required to take india to the higher level.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | December 18, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    Dravid , you wrong sir. Dhoni is not the man to move india forward. Not for me. His defensive captaincy and want to lose 2-1 rather than 3-1 big no no for me. He try to protect himself by not going for win. This guy lost 10-0. Ofcourse he did not directly contributed to all losses but he did indirectly. He did not get the team under him working towards single goal. He is a great politician for future because he always have friggin excuses. We all know whats wrong with india. Bowlers. If he keeps sehwag cool , india is still good. He can be captain only if sehwag says. Unless you get rid of sehwag and gambhir. For me openers get stagnant. Coaching stagnant and coach is clueless. I am not sure what you found in duncan for me he is unfit for india. India do not need technical coach. India need a coach who keeps different groups in the team happy and work for same goal. that the job. I would like gambhir captain and kohli as vc and Dinesh karthik wicket keeper in test.