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Time running out for India openers

Amol Karhadkar

January 5, 2013

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Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag take a drinks break, Perth, January 12, 2012
Losing steam: Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag have struggled to give India any starts over the past one year © AFP
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The result of India's match against Pakistan at the Kotla maybe inconsequential in the context of the series, but the match is critical for India's struggling openers Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir to revive selectors' faith in them ahead of the upcoming series against England.

The national selection panel is set to be convened at the end of the match for selecting the squad for the five-match ODI series against England, which begins in Rajkot on January 11. And with both Sehwag and Gambhir repeatedly failing to make sizeable contributions in the shorter format, don't be surprised if one of them - if not both - faces the axe at least for the initial phase of the England ODIs.

Since his epic 219 against West Indies in December 2011, Sehwag has had a forgettable run with the bat in the 50-over format. He has been able to score just 248 runs in 11 innings since the record knock in Indore. His solitary fifty during this period came during the series in Sri Lanka last July-August. As a result, time is running out for the veteran player.

"The only way he can save himself is by coming up with a big knock tomorrow. Otherwise, it will be difficult for him to be a part of the squad thereafter," a source close to the selection panel said.

It is also uncertain if the selectors will announce the squad for all five ODIs or a part of the series. With the team in dire straits, it won't be surprising if Sunday will see the squad for the first two or three ODIs being named.

What is almost certain though is the entry of Cheteshwar Pujara into the one-day fold. The Saurashtra batsman has more than established himself as a Test No. 3. But with his ability to find gaps at will, Pujara is set to be included in the one-day squad for the first time. It remains to be seen if he replaces either of the established openers or Mumbai batsman Rohit Sharma, who yet again failed to translate his form in domestic cricket on to the international stage.

Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by mkaliasif on (January 8, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

Sehwag is already out from 3 ODI against England...which is a good sign for Indian Cricket to bulid World Cup ahead and a real chance for Young Bloods like Pujara,Rahane,Vijay,Chand.And we have to give much time for them even if they fail in 1 or 2 series because we have to think of their ages as well.It is high time india choose alternative option for Sehwag & Gambhir as they are aging lions.As Dhoni complaints Sehwag is very slow in field thereby allows opposition Teams to utilise the drop or mis-field.Frankly speaking selectors have decided to give last chance for Gambhir...and if he fails again......Pujara & Rahane performs....that is the boon for Indian Cricket for coming years.

Posted by vrkp on (January 6, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

My squad for the 3 odis: Vijay, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni (C and Wk), Jadeja, I Pathan, Ashwin, Dinda, Ishant, Bhuv Kumar, Yadav.

First ODI XI Vijay, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni (C and Wk), Ashwin, Dinda, Ishant, Bhuv Kumar/Yadav.

No Rohit sharma for at least another one year. I'm really sick of seeing that guy in the team in spite of doing absolutely nothing spl for the last zillion matches he was selected.

I think our fast bowling reserve looks reasonably good at least in ODIs with the emergency of Dinda and Bhuvi and re-surrection of Ishant. Once Yadav is fully fit, our fast bowling will look much better.

Posted by TRIC on (January 6, 2013, 11:06 GMT)

Playing 11 indian Team for England ODI- openers -Murali Vijay and abhinav mukund 1 down- Ajinkya rahane 2 down- Cheteshwar pujara 3 down. Virat Kohli 4 down. Dinesh Karthik 5down . Jalaj saxena 6.down Bhuvanesh Kumar 7down. Rahul sharma 8. Sreesanth 9. Ishant. (Bowlers-Ishant/sreesanth / Bhuvanesh / Virat/Jalaj/Kohli )

Posted by mkaliasif on (January 6, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

surely both sewag & Ghambir should be sacked for their recent performance...and certainly gambir's stand in the crease is not all satisfying...he is just playing selfish and doesnt want india to win any matches....he only finds time to counter attack indian captian and only possess wicked thought to become Indian captian....which is not possible at all...he is just kicking the door which cannot be opened..i suggest the indian line up as per below for 5 ODI.. Murali Vijay,pujara,kohli,Dhoni,Raina,Yuvaraj,Rahane Aswin,Bhuvanshwar,Ishanth Sharma,Sreeshant,

Posted by doors666 on (January 6, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

great. so they dropped sehwag. and what happened, rahane socred 4. gambhir scored 15, kohli scored 7.

dhoni has to go as a captain, i dont care how many runs he scored, he's a bad captain. his team selection, his love for csk players, his field placements, his strategy, his bowling changes have all gone to dogs. A captain first needs to be a captain and then a batsman.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 6, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

@nyc_missile: Thanks for the +ve feedback, at least there's two of us who can see Rohit's obvious abilities. Anyone with an eye for the game will tell you he has that extra time but too many of the critics here have unrealistic expectations. It was pretty obv they wouldn't play him in the 3rd ODI, in that case he should have been released for the Ranji QF but this is another area where the wise men who run cricket fall short. In home series, you don't need to carry a squad of 16 players from venue to venue!

@Jose P: Well said, your comments on franchise ownership, etc is spot on. Further, even players such as Sehwag are frightened to sit out a game or two. Domestic cricket means playing in front of 50 fans (see the Ranji QF blog), their endorsements have clauses that require them to be in the national eye at all times. No visibility, no pay. And when you're used to the payouts they've been receiving, these guys have no issues lying to the physio and playing half fit.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 7:28 GMT)

It is time that India gave a chance to the Husseys and Hodges of Indian cricket. Amol Majumdar, Pankaj Singh, Yashpal Singh, Wasim Jaffer, Hrishikesh Kanitkar, and Aakash Chopra have done a lot in domestic cricket without adequate reward or recognition. Some of them have been shunted out of the international circuit rather quickly, while others were selected when they were too raw and dropped. These guys deserve another chance considering the hunger and passion with which they play. If these are selected in the Test team, and the ODIs and T20s are left to youngsters, the Indian team at least will make a fist of most matches. But is it possible with out selection committee? Guess not!

Posted by screamingeagle on (January 6, 2013, 7:13 GMT)

Out of form, petty politics and absolute indifference, that is what the Indian team's real issue is. Only way to get them out of that mindset is by showing a few of them the door. Get new guys in, let them fail and learn. Someone was saying openers fail because they face the new ball, but that is their job. You may fail a few times, but the problem is that these two 'veterans' do not even look like they belong. Which is sad.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 6:57 GMT)

Both Sehwag & Gambhir should be out. The 5 match ODI series against England is a good chance to develop a new pair. My bet is on Rahane-Pujara combo. With Kohli to follow.The only doubt is whether Pujara & Kohli should swap their positions at no 2 & no 3, or not.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 6:53 GMT)

@Mohammad Zamin on (January 06 2013, 06:06 AM GMT)

The criticism of India's batting is NO reflection on the Pak bowling unit which was exceptional. The point is that the Indian batsmen have been consistently failing against bowlers from ALL countries. Not only they failed abjectly against England, Australia & now Pakistan. In between, even when they managed to win against West Indies and NZ, they were floundering against some of their better bowlers too. Tim Southee's short resurgence was facilitated by the poor performance of the Indians in India!

It is not that India do not have enough raw material to work on, both in batting and bowling. But, the squatter mentality of the stars who are past their prime, selectors' lack of guts, poor talent scouting and development landed us in this plight.

To boot, those who are in power have their own franchises, and their brand value and financial success depend on their own employee-cricketers, figuring in the national team, all the time.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 6:06 GMT)

Guys - I notice every one here is talking about how bad the Indian team is, granted they look tired and out of sorts but please give credit to the Pakistani bowling as well, though inexperienced it is on the way to becoming 'The Best' bowling attack in International cricket, we already have the best spinners. As far as replacements are concerned, I would keep Gambhir and replace Sehwag with Rahane...kick out Sharma (he is so useless) and get in Pujara at number 3 and Kohli at number 4. followed by Dhoni..THEN Yuvraj ! And for the love of God....find a 5th specialist bowler..with a population of over a Billion and being therichest cricket board...how hard can it be. If pakistan had these resources we would be invincible.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 5:33 GMT)

Bring in Pujara. He could be a makeshift and could open with Rahane. Sack both Gambhir and Sehwag.

Posted by sandy_bangalore on (January 6, 2013, 5:09 GMT)

Team India-Nothing but a collection of overrated overhyped flat pitch kings. I am sure when IPL starts, they will be enjoying the adulation and pummelling no-name Indian bowlers in the flattest of pitches across the country. Atleast learn from SRI LANKA you guys! They are fighting against Aussies despite injury issues, while we got hammered 4-0, with a so-clled full strength side

Posted by landl47 on (January 6, 2013, 4:30 GMT)

Surely this is the ideal chance to try out some new players? England doesn't have its first string bowling attack and there's nothing resting on this series at all. The recent series have shown that India needs to reshape its team looking towards the future. This should be the series to start that process.

Posted by Adonisarun on (January 6, 2013, 4:24 GMT)

It's high time to drop the 2009 overrated gambir as he seems to be content with his past achievements and his weakness against moving ball is apparent and nomore a international opener, then sehwag was a terrific player,man lost his composure as its historically evident with players like sanath who rely on hand and eye coordination ended career on a low and something common between both too much money in Ipl distracted them humangously and cause for their slump.Looking at the replacement get in dhawan and rahane give them a fair bit of run at least a couple of series. Let MSD continue his role as a captain and have virat as his deputy. Sure that India will recover from low.

Posted by doors666 on (January 6, 2013, 3:52 GMT)

why people keep suggesting that dhoni should come at 3 or 4. He can only do that on flat tracks. He doesnt have the technique to bat higher against good bowling or when the pitch has assistance for the bowlers.

Its very easy to criticize the openers. They are the ones facing hostile fast bowlers when the ball is new and the pitch has moisture. Its much easier to bat at 7 and score runs and claim credit. Barring sehwag and gambhir, there hasnt been a good test opener since gavaskar. In ODIs also, apart from sachin and ganguly, we havent had a good opener before or after them.

Its the middle order that is messing it up, If openers get out cheaply, why cant they bat et al. we seriously need to look at better middle order batsmen, that are not flat track bullies, that can handle 10/2 as well as 100/1

Posted by lonewarriorram on (January 6, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

A captain is as good as his team. I still don't understand people calling for axing MSD as captain in all formats. He has most pathetic bowling unit at his disposal and no batsman is in form. If the same team is given to even Steve Waugh he won't be able to win. Dhoni can walk into any ODI team straight away. If some one has to be axed, it should be openers, Yuvi, Rohit & Raina in batting not Dhoni.

Somebody said Dhoni scored useless century in 1st ODI vs pak. Mate, are you out of your mind. If it isn't for Dhoni's century Pak would have be chasing some 150 runs and would have won easily inside 35 overs. Give the credit where it is due atleast please.

Raise your voice against selection panel and supporting staff for this. Don't understand why they should be paid. Coaches not correcting the players and selectors still selecting the same team with one or two new faces. Future indeed looks bleak.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 3:36 GMT)

It was a pathetic display by both the openers in the first 2 ODIs.. they did not know where the ball was coming from and where it was moving. simply they could not sight the ball.. we call them experienced operners. where their experiences gone?? It is better to have 2 new openers for the 3rd ODI to see if any improvement can be made for England ODI. For today's game, Kohli & Rahane should open with Dhoni 3, Yuvi 4, Raina 5, Karthik 6, Ashwin 7, A Mishra 8, B Kumar 9, I Sharma 10, S Ahmed 11.. Try this combination and allow Karthik to keep wickets to give a breather to Dhoni so that he can concentrate on Captaincy & Batting.. This combination may work out..

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (January 6, 2013, 3:35 GMT)

Indian fans listen carefully, no one will be dropped from the team. Each of them carry millions of dollars worth business deals from IPL to ketchup adds. That means a lot of stakes involved on Indian players. However, I am surprised how Sachin retired from ODIs, but he is an honest and dedicated player unlike the mediocre current IPL crap. It is very unfortunate that there is or will be no one like Sachin to shoulder the burden. So Indian have to settle with IPL crap, so sad.

Posted by nyc_missile on (January 6, 2013, 3:25 GMT)

@InsideHEdge spot on Rohit,at long last find a sane voice on Rohit..all this talk of his under-performance is terribly exaggerated in ODIs esp since he comes in @ 7 when everything is either lost or need is to make quick runs.Dhoni has to be blamed for this.When the team is in a cozy position,he comes out swinging at 4 and takes all the credit but when its 40/3 doesnt turn up and sends young guns to face the music.Also Rohit's batting position is being affected a bit after Yuvi's comeback because until then,he did phenomenally well against WI in WI & Ind.And as for criticism wrt tests,the genius critics forget that he hasn't even debuted yet LOL

Posted by doors666 on (January 6, 2013, 3:10 GMT)

what kind of crap is this, axing sehwag, are they nuts. at the best you can get rid of gambhir. they dont have two openers that are ready. only rahane. rest are all waste. murali vijay is a waste, mukund is a waste. who's going to open?

what about the worst captain in the world in the last two years. he scored a useless loosing hundred and he's again the captain? when are they going to axe dhoni as a captain atleast.

what about axing the over rated ashwin. he cant even buy a wicket these days.

raina is out of form, kohli is out of form. yuvraj is out of form.

if performance is a yardstick, no one in the current team should make it.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 2:56 GMT)

Why not Abhinav Mukund as opener in ODI. Guy is very solid having average of 53 in 50 over first class. I don't want another batsman carrier to be ruined as I fear that they will force Pujara to be an opener. Sehwag was never an opener but was forced to do so and have always struggled against new moving ball.

Posted by IndCricFan2013 on (January 6, 2013, 2:47 GMT)

Hello, how long the time keeps running (out)? The time has ran out. Put Rahane and Vijay to open and keep one more reserve opener. Play Pujara at No.3 and Dhoni at No.4 ( or rest Dhoni for England ODI) Get Raina at 5. Keep Kohli at 6 until he finds form then move him up the order. Keep Tiwary as middle order back up. Yuvi is not good enough for ODI and Tests. Try Jadeja at 7 until you can find another all rounder. Rest Ashwin for England ODIs. Get few spinners who are doing good in domestic and give them each few matches. Get few more pacers and rotate them.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 2:36 GMT)

dont drop our best openers u dont hav proper backup other than rahane

Posted by BravoBravo on (January 6, 2013, 2:12 GMT)

I am really mad on Carribeans (WI), as they let this clown Shewag make 219 in an ODI. He has a big mouth, nothing else. He will fail again and again. He is like BB McCullum of NZ. IND batsmen are no good, been never good, it is just media hype, and ignorant fans. It is pathetic that IND blames their own bowlers. Current ODI series against PAK, 2nd match IND bowlers bring IND back in contention, and IND batsmen fell like a pack of cards, as they usually do against quality bowling. All the time we hear, IND will bounce back. Why a good team needs to bounce back always? They are mediocre team for last 80 years. Now they are miserable, and this is begining of the end of IPL. IPL is there for sadistic pleasures of IND fan.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (January 6, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

It's time to drop Sehwag and Gambhir forever. They are just living on past reputations - they have not performed in more than a year. Replace them with Rahane and Mukund/Jaffer/Reddy/Dhawan. Yuvraj is jaded and good only for T20 - Manoj Tiwary would be an ideal replacement, but he's injured. For the time being replace Kohli with Pujara. Kohli has lost his form while Pujara is in form.

Posted by crick_wizard on (January 6, 2013, 2:00 GMT)

how can the selectors decide based on a single game? especially one which has no bearing on the series..if both sehwag and gambhir get hundreds today, will they be retained in the squad for another year..selection should be based on consistency, long term planning and not based on one-time performances...

Posted by CricketisKing on (January 6, 2013, 0:32 GMT)

Yeah right. I will believe it when I see it. Indian selectors have no guts. They are afraid to get rid of senior cricketers. They only make some cosmetic changes. They bring in one or two young guys just to show to the public that they are making changes but after couple of matches the young ones will be dropped while the useless seniors will keep playing. The team India has can be beaten by Zimbabwe too.

Posted by maddy20 on (January 6, 2013, 0:08 GMT)

The problems within the current ODI team are definitely due to the current selection panel. I hope these two fail again though, so that they can be done with once and for all. We need to start building a team for the future, and these two need to be axed. We cannot drop Yuvraj yet. As for Kohli, I would replace him with tiwary to remind him that no one can take their place for granted. If two other batsmen, had batted as well as Dhoni, we could have won this series?

Posted by nyc_missile on (January 5, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

So what are the genius selectors saying? that *IF* Sehwag or Gambhir or both perform just in this game,Rahane will again carry water for the next series? What a bunch of utterly incompetent idiots we have at the helm!! All this 'act' of talking to Dhoni or Sehwag is all just to take a bit of heat off media criticism and nothing more.Seems these administrators will do anything to carry the flopping 'stars' as long as the coffers are filled from the sponsors of these over-paid prima donnas!

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

India should open with Gambhir and rahane, play Kohli at 3 and Pujara at 4, even tho both sehwag and gambhir are both low on runs it would be silly to drop both senior players , age is not on sehwag's side and he is slow in the field

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 5, 2013, 23:07 GMT)

The worst thing that can happen in the 3rd ODI is for Sehwag/Gambhir to score some runs and for India to paper over the obvious cracks with a victory. We'll have to put up with the has-beens for another two years.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 5, 2013, 23:05 GMT)

The selectors continue to misuse some of our young talents. Take Rohit Sharma, who has built his reputation in First Class cricket and also T20 via the IPL. For both Mumbai (Ranji Version) and Mumbai Indians (IPL), he bats very high up the order.

Instead, the clowns who run Indian cricket send him in at #7 for the T20s, what's the point of playing him is he'll face but 15 balls? At #7, you want an explosive big hitter and someone who will give you 4 overs.

In ODIs, they can't decide whether to play him, and he's yet to debut in Tests despite shocking (and repeated) failures from our batsmen. And now, they want to ruin Pujara by introducing him to ODIs because "he finds gaps". What? He has yet to show any special abilities in ODIs. Besides, we need to find all-rounders in the limited overs formats to give balance to the side.

Leave Pujara to try and get Saurashtra as far as possible in this year's Ranjis.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 5, 2013, 22:59 GMT)

There's something very sour about Gautam Gambhir, he comes across as very surly, rather miserable and one disconnected from the fans. I'd drop him like a bad habit, he's been struggling for a long time, he's unfit (what's new there?), he can't bowl and there's nothing special about his fielding. Dressing room presence? None. Egotistical and desiring captaincy? Absolutely. Verdict: Drop him and show him who's boss - the BCCI, that is.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 5, 2013, 22:56 GMT)

A whole lot of nonsense written by my fellow Indian fans in this comments section - as usual. Blasting out stats from Indian domestic cricket means nothing.

As for Sehwag, he is a player who relies completely on hand-eye coordination, these type of players fade the quickest as they age, they cannot adapt , they never built their game on pure technical correctness. And so we see Sehwag repeatedly dismissed looking ugly as he fails to move his feet even millimetres, they often look as tho they're set in cement. The man is finished, 100%, yet the selectors still want to give him further chances. His Test ton at Abad is misleading, that track is one of the easiest to bat on.

Finally, Sehwag has never been a great ODI player, he's been surprisingly more effective in Tests for India but he's finished as an international player.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 22:50 GMT)

Srikanth should be ashamed of himself as being one of the selectors, I have lost all respect for him, for not trying new formulas and keep rehashing the old ones.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 22:04 GMT)

This lazy Sehwag cannot play good and short of good length deliveries on middle and leg and also deliveries that come in from offstump. He should be dropped immediately and never selected again because he is too lazy to improve himself.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 21:37 GMT)

I don't expect surprises. It will be same old team with one or two new players sacked. I don't expect Sehwag and Gambhir to be axed.

Time to sack the selectors. Create domestic rating instead. Top 15 players should be automatically selected. Whenever a player drops out of the rating, he should be dropped out of the team. I don't see the need of the selectors except to play favoritism. India is losing to every team, every format, everywhere.

India should play with Pakistan every year. This will keep the BCCI, the players, and the selectors awake and humble.

Posted by BoseDeeKay on (January 5, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

Gambhir, Sehwag n Yuvraj need to be out of the team. They need to play domestic cricket and get into shape. They seem lethargic and are unfit per international standards. Raina needs to get in shape too. Rahane and Pujara need to open with Tiwari being No.4. We should also get Stuart Binny. He is a fantastic all rounder. How come No one's paying any attention to Stuart Binny?My Team would be: 1.Rahane, 2.Mukund, 3.Pujara, 4.Kohli (c), 5.M.Tiwari,6.Dhoni/Karthik (Wk), 7.Stuart Binny, 8.B Kumar, 9.Ashwin, 10.Ishant and 11.Dinda. This would be a very well balanced team and would be unbeatable until 2015 World Cup.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 20:49 GMT)

I do not think Rayudu or Dhawan are anywhere close t being in the same league as Gambhir. I think the selectors should give Sehwag a cut and replace him with Rahane. Sehwag should also go back and Focus on the longer format. His bowling is not utilized much anymore and his fielding is weak. Plus there have been reports that he may be one of the reasons of a possible rift in the Indian team of which Sehwag may be at the centre. Finally, his scores have been way below par and with the new format we can't rely on our part timers so every batsman needs to pull heir weight to accommodate an extra bowler.

Posted by Dandy_s on (January 5, 2013, 20:49 GMT)

The selectors should be brave now they should use the england series to try out new players Sehwag, Gambhir, Ashwin, Dhoni all are playing too much cricket and shld be rested .............In ODI players like D.Karthik, P.Patel,A.Mishra, M.Bisla,Imtiyaz Ahmed,Kedar Jadhav and Shami Ahmed should be tried in this series.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 20:38 GMT)

the main problem is Indian team coach.. First thing India need to change the coach and Different Captain and Players for Test , ODI and T20.

Team Should be:--

Test :- Ghamvir, Sahwag(c), Pujara, Sachin, Badrinath, Dinesh Karteek, Harbhjan Singh/Oja, Amit Mishra/Piyush Chawla, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, Umesh yadav.

ODI :--

Rehane/ Dhavan, ghamvir, Virat Kohli, Yuvraj singh, Suresh Raina, Dhoni(c), Irfan Pathan, Aswin ,Harbhjan singh, Praveen kumar, Zaheer khan,

T20:--

Ghamvir(c), Bisla/Naman Ojha, Virat Kohli, Yuvraj singh, Suresh Raina, Rohit Sharma, Yusuf Pathan , Irfan Pathan, R. P Singh, Aswin , Bhuvneswar kumar

Posted by 30-30-150 on (January 5, 2013, 19:47 GMT)

Rahane (FC avg- 62, OD avg- 38)

Mukund (FC avg- 51, OD avg- 53)

Dhawan (FC- 46, OD- 43)

Vijay (FC- 47, OD- 43)

Akshath Reddy (FC- 54, OD- 46)

These are the front-runners for the two openers slots. I suggest, the selectors should pick Pujara and one of these 5 as the openers in ODIs. Pujara will do great as an opener, surely..

Posted by tgevans on (January 5, 2013, 19:37 GMT)

I would sack the selectors.d Sehwag and Gambhir wore out their welcome a while ago. If they're still there, it can only be for reasons other than cricket.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 19:21 GMT)

the team selector please select these players: Rahane,Shikhar Dhawan,Kohli, Rohit Sharma,Dhoni,Yuvraj Singh, Raina,Ashwin, I Sharma,B Kumar,Dinda,AB Agarkar,DS Kulkarni,Mayank Agarwal,CA Pujara

Posted by vrn59 on (January 5, 2013, 19:11 GMT)

Gambhir and Sehwag should both be removed and Rahane and Pujara should open instead. This will give the underperformers a jolt and force them to return to domestic cricket and earn their way back into the ODI side. There is a chance though (which I wouldn't mind being taken, given that I'm still a fan of theirs) that the Delhi openers will be given one last opportunity to perform since the next match is on their home ground. Rohit Sharma should also be warned.

Posted by bumsonseats on (January 5, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

well as england are not taking their strongest squad of players.would have thought it a good time for india to do similar. that said i expect india and their supporters will want to beat the # 1 side in odis big time. beat in the tests only drew at T20. with the bcci doing their best to scupper englands pre test games. the indian supporters and the writers on here will feel if they win, it in some way compensates for the test loss.i have news for you it will make not the least. for guys who understand the game test cricket which is the way you count the quality of a cricketer

Posted by anuajm on (January 5, 2013, 18:51 GMT)

Pujara has an average of 57 in List A matches, its surprising that he is yet to find a place in the ODI team. I think the time has come for a complete revamp of the team.Special players like Jadeja and Rohit Sharma needs to go back. They have wasted enough oppurtunities for better batsman. Both of them have played 60/80 odd matches respectively, Badri must be crying his luck that he did not get a proper chance in even 5-6 matches across formats!! Sehwag and Gambhir unfortunately have reach the stage where they need to be dropped.In bowling department, i don't see any reason for Ojha not getting a chance. Overall, time has come for a complete shake up of the team and look ahead. In short formats only Dhoni, Kohli, Yuvraj and too an extent Raina inspire confidence.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:49 GMT)

Teams I believe according to the players form in Domestic tournaments: T20: Rahane, Kohli, Raina, Rayadu, Dhoni, Yuvraj, I Pathan, Ashwin, Iqbal Abdulla, B Kumar, Balaji ODI: Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni, Yuvraj, I Pathan, Ashwin, Murali Karthik, Dinda, Ishant Tests: Gambhir, Wasim Jaffer, Pujara, Sachin, Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Dinesh Karthik, Ashwin, Zaheer, Ojha, Umesh Yadav

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 5, 2013, 18:43 GMT)

@Nampally: I fully endorse your support for the admirable Pujara to be included in India's team for the upcoming ODIs. He has a fine calm head on his shoulders, plays with a lot of pride & has a v promising future. From 1st Test at Ahmedabad I was very impressed with him & because 50 over cricket is not T20, I'd go so far as to say it's a no-brainer not to include him. Furthermore, he represents the future of Indian batting, a Dravid-like figure in the making. He needs to be kept well away from the bashing game (I do so admire the Ozzies for giving me that adjective; it puts the shortest version of cricket in its right perspective!) which will undo a tidy technique. In fact, he should be well paid not to appear in the IPL! That would demonstrate a commitment to the national team by the BCCI. Did everyone see a forest of hands go up to support that idea? If they didn't, perhaps it is to do with private profit, not national cricketing prestige. NB: I don't bash India, just the board!

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:40 GMT)

This problem is because India play almost the same team for all three formats of the game hence, due to overburden they have worn out. Same is for Sehwag & Gambhir. Like Aus SA Eng, India too should have diff teams and captains for diff formats. Dhoni for ODI & T20's is fine but for tests we need someone else say Kohli. And for T20's we need a completely diff side from ODI's.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

The squad should be like this 1. Gambir 2.Rahane 3.pujara 4.kholi 5 .dhoni .yuvi 7.raina 8.... abhinav mukund 9.jadeja 10. manoj tiwary(had he recoverd frm injury) 11. b.kumar 12. ashwin 13. ishant 14.dinda 15. shahmi Viru needs a break and must play domestic again ......... Rohit his last 7 odis 12,5,4,0,0,3,4 28 runs in 7 matches luckiest player in Indian team.......

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 5, 2013, 18:33 GMT)

I don't know anything about his domestic form but Pujara obviously played some good innings in the Test series and scored quickly in a couple, but also looked tied down in a couple. It would be interesting to see how he went in the ODI team. Surely Rahane can't be kept out any longer though.

Posted by amarnath79 on (January 5, 2013, 18:31 GMT)

Its amazing they keep trying same people again and again. What about Punjab's opener, Jiwanjot, the most successful batsman in Ranji Trophy this season?

Posted by kitten on (January 5, 2013, 18:30 GMT)

Fans can complain till they are blue in the face, but the selectors have no guts, and will stick to these same old guys, and like someone rightly said, one or two of them will score well, and then will be included for the next ten games!! It's a total fiasco. No one cares a damn about the spectators or the game, as long as the money keeps rolling in. What a shame, and to think just over a year ago, India was no.1 in Tests, and had just won the world cup. They have slumped to the bottom, and the good thing, or thinking positively, is they can only go up, and we all earnestly hope they do. Good Luck India.

Posted by Raj12345 on (January 5, 2013, 18:29 GMT)

Get rid of both, they are running by past and it is waste of time for us.

248 runs in 11 ODIs, not making any chance. Let us take an example, when M Vijay failed in 3 ODIs, people don't have patience and start putting lot of comments. If batsman like shewag with 200 ODI exp fails, then why we need to ask to close the door to M Viijay.

Because of these 2 openers, Rahane is been wasted for last 2 years. Just remove these 2. no matter we loose 5 ODIs.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

With WC 2015 starting 19th Feb 2015, would Sehwag and Gambhir survive the next two years? Secondly, Is the technique like that of Cook, Amla, Nasir Jmadhed more appropriate than Sehwag for ODI, in the wake of recent changes in rules in ODI?

Posted by IAS2009 on (January 5, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

india should really think players for format. like england is saving players for burnout, i think Pujara should be saved from ODI of england if they need him to perform better, most of Indian team players are in all format and they are playing too much cricket no one can perform at that level all the time, their body needs rest. Media give super status to many players prematurely and then these players have to deal with very high expectation level, it is burden, many players were called as super stars and they are gone with 2-3 years, Muanf, Irfan Pathan, RP singh, Balaji, The next in line to disappear is Dinda, Ashwin, Raina and Jadeja.

Posted by krikitt-fan-toronto on (January 5, 2013, 18:09 GMT)

totally negative approach ... indians plz support ur indian batsmen .. they r under so much pressure .. and bring back kapil dev to solve fast bowling problems .. im not understanding y kapil dev is not indian bowling coach ... anywayzz wtever the situations r ... support ur team india

Posted by vivek_86 on (January 5, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

Rahane and Sehwag needs to open and Gambhir needs to come down the order in ODI.

In tests it should be Gambhir and Mukund. Mukund had done reasonably well in England. If given chance in Indian conditions he will do much better and he is also capable of playing long innings.

Below two things which Dhoni is over doing which is why India is sliding down

1) Backing up non performing players for long time (look at Eng they benched vice captain Broad in tests for Finn)

2) Change the batting order according to the situation (this is something Indians needs to do to be more competent.. Do something to surprise the opposition... Heard like before the series began Ajmal studied more about Raina and Yuvi as he needs to bowl these batsman most.. Do something to cause surprise... Fine if doesn't come out... without experiment, no one will improve in this world)

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

This is the best time for INdia to make a move, we have someone like Pujara at no.3, who in odi, can slow the pace down, if an early wicket falls, Kohli will have no problem opening, as India tend to loose a early wicket so often, that he has to play the new ball, and Rahane will be a good support in the opening pair with Kohli, option B is to open with pujara and rahane, and you have a balance of an aggressive and defensive batsman.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 18:00 GMT)

bring in abhishek nayar! he is an allrounder anways better than jadeja

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

in a recent cricket talk show in a news channel, pakistan legendary paceman waqar younis pointed out that the indian selectors should ignore the reputation of some players and take their current form in to account during selection.he is absiolutely correct. it does not matter how fast you score and how many triple hundreds you made when u fail to provide solid starts to your team consisenty over a period of one and half years. time for change of openers.

Posted by Alexk400 on (January 5, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

DHoni should be removed from Team. he is worst leader in cricket in last 2 years. Before sehwag goes dhoni must go.

Posted by nyc_missile on (January 5, 2013, 17:52 GMT)

Both Sehwag & Gambhir need to be dumped,but because this team at least needs one,it should be Gambhir as he is younger and also his form is OK in ODIs but awful in tests.While Sehwag has been pathetic in ALL formats in ALL conditions for long..Yuvraj should go because he's a T20 specialist and cannot handle fast bowling and cannot last > 5 overs anyway.Raina is a terrific fielder but has failed miserably over the last yr,put him on notice.My team for tomorrow: Rahane Gambhir Kohli(C) Pujara Rohit Raina Dinesh K Ashwin Bhuvi Ishant Dinda Dhoni missing out is a blessing in disguise as it gives the team a fresh look and if they win ,we might have a new captain thereafter also..

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

time is running out? i would like to think it ran out long ago for these guys. For a long time, it has looked like gambhir is playing to save his place and sehwag, well he is not scoring runs like he did to be excused saying its the sehwag way of batting. India, to get back to its winning ways, needs to try new guys. Rahane has been due his place for a long time and bring in someone like mukund to partner him.

Posted by Shreyans.B on (January 5, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

I would say its time for a revamp in some positions in the XI. Sehwag and gambhir need to step down and let rahane and young brigade take over. Atleast then we can give the team some breathing space even if they record losses at a strech. Pujara might be a good add but even bowling department needs to be relooked and some new faces need to be brought in atleast the spin dept. Openers need to be replace without doubt and 1 or 2 backup spinners need to be brought in.

Posted by Nampally on (January 5, 2013, 17:22 GMT)

If C.Pujara is not included in the ODI squad to play against England, the Selectors should be fired. He is the only Indian batsman with any credibility both in terms of his ability & skill to play any sort of bowling. He is also the best Indian batsman. ODI format is not too different from that of Test Cricket. Only exception is faster rate of scoring. Pujara averages a S/R of 48 in Tests. He may have to push it to 70 to be amongst the average rate. India needs a sheet anchor in ODI. I also like to see S.Nadeem in the XI against England. He is the best spinner in the Ranji this season & was very difficult to hit in the IPL too. With paucity of spinners, he answers India's call for bowler. Ishant, Yadev & Aaron should be the seamers. If Sreesanth is fit he will be the 4th seamer.Rahul Sharma needs to be activated again. I like to see Mukund & Rahane opening the innings. These are some of the border line names whom the Selectors always like to by pass. It is time for new talent.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 17:19 GMT)

Its time to put ur head down....focus...concentrate...and perform...u two r world class players...in this dire moments for India...these veteran should put up their hands and say I will do it for india...

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

It is time for Sehwag to go. If not by himself, then he needs to be pushed. For too long, he has been 'carried" by the rest of his team. He can't field anymore, hardly bowls, and his runs have dried up. Plea to the selectors: Please be merciful, end his agony. And ours.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (January 5, 2013, 17:10 GMT)

Sehwag and Gambhir both deserve boot from Indian Selctors. Open with Rahane and Kohli play pujara one down.

Posted by pandez on (January 5, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

The selection should be on the basis of performance of the players till date, and tomorrows match should not be considered because if tomorrow Sehwag plays a good knock then it wont be good for the team because again the same problem will arise. So firstly Sehwag should be axed even if he scores 200 runs in tomorrows game taking future into consideration. Rohit may get an opportunity in Tests but not in ODI's, and Pujara should be included on a long term basis.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (January 5, 2013, 17:07 GMT)

Rohit just played one Odi where all top order failed and you are saying Mumbai batsmen failed to translate his domestic form, Please support youngsters, just year before he was man of the series twice.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

sehwag and gambhir havent been in form for a long time its time that the selectors look for other openers

Posted by AHFAD on (January 5, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

Unwise to remove local heroes. Ghambir, Shewag and Rohit should play. Give them one more chance. After that curtains for Shewag and Rohit forever. And send Ghambir to play first class cricket (abroad).

IMO, one of the opener will click. But no chance for Pujara because its gonna be too much pressure on him. Better give him the slot against England where it will look more sensible and less pressure.

Posted by mrcool on (January 5, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

Why they never gave uthappa continuous chances as opener despite success??

Posted by Retour on (January 5, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

Sehwag can begin to make a transition to playing in the middle order. He still is competitive but arguable not the same player he was a few years ago and therefore his experience would be more utilized in the MO. Pujara's inclusion would be a good decision, may be in place of the non-firing Rohit.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 16:58 GMT)

Pujara will make a very stable no. 3 in the long run. I always felt, no matter his form, a flairy Virat Kohli is more a no.4 batsman. Gambhir has done enough to deserve more chances. Ideally, the axe should fall on Sehwag and Rohit. Vijay and Pujara might be the only changes, again IDEALLY. PS: Indian selectors love bringing back CHAWLA! :D

Posted by   on (January 5, 2013, 16:56 GMT)

I think it's very disappointing that Sehwag and Gambhir are getting one last chance. Rahane should be given the opportunity to open in the 3rd ODI. He only has sporadic chances and has not been given an extended run in the team.

With Sehwag and Gambhir, it's the same story that it has been for a year or two. They perform badly, and don't score runs. And then they get "one last chance", at which point they score a lot of runs, which secures their place in the team for another 10 failures before their place is questioned again. They've had enough "last chances". Give Rahane the chance in the 3rd ODI, or it will be another backwards step for Indian cricket.

Gambhir needs to be dropped from the Test team, and maybe the ODI team too. Sehwag definitely needs to be dropped from the ODI team and maybe the Test team.

Gambhir and Sehwag have had enough chances since the tour of England 2011. They shouldn't be given one more chance. Changes need to happen, and they need to happen now.

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