England in India 2012-13

India A spoil Giles coaching debut

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January 6, 2013

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India A 224 for 4 (Vijay 76, Mukund 57, Dernbach 2-23) beat England XI 175 (Bell 91, Menaria 3-43, J Saxena 2-13) by 53 runs (D/L method)
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Ashley Giles, Warwickshire's director of cricket, helps with the fielding drills, Somerset v Warwickshire, Taunton, April 15, 2009
Ashley Giles' first competitive match in charge of England's one-day side ended in defeat © Getty Images
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Ashley Giles' first game in charge of England's ODI side ended in a convincing defeat against India A in Delhi in the first of two warm-up matches ahead of the one-day series.

Giles named Ian Bell, with whom he has had a close association at Warwickshire, to open the England innings with Alastair Cook standing down from the opening match with a heavy cold. The opportunity to open the innings introduced what could be perceived as a straight shoot-out for the role with Kevin Pietersen.

Bell responded with 91 from 89 balls to strengthen the possibility that he will be Cook's opening partner in the first ODI in Nagpur on Friday, with Pietersen batting at No. 3 in the absence of Jonathan Trott. Hgave chances on 21 and 35 and had they been taken England's plight would have been considerably worse.

Bell's response was designed to hearten England's new one-day coach during an otherwise dismal batting display on a cold, foggy day in which England collapsed to 72 for 6 in search of a target of 229 in 39 overs and eventually lost by 53 runs under the Duckworth-Lewis method.

In a match reduced to 39 overs because of bad light, England were up against it from the moment that the Tamil Nadu opening pair, Abhinav Mukund and M Vijay assembled a century opening stand.

Mukund, known to England after playing for India in their Test defeats at Lord's and Trent Bridge in 2011, famously once put on 462 with Vijay for Tamil Nadu in a Ranji Trophy match, only two runs away from the world record, but on this occasion 118 in 24 overs was enough to deflate England.

James Tredwell, who can anticipate a leading role in the five-match ODI series in the absence of his fellow offspinner, Graeme Swann, then had Mukund stumped for 57. Samit Patel bowled Vijay for 76 from 75 balls but an unbeaten half-century from Maharashtra's Kedar Jadhav, maintained the impetus.

England's prize scalp of Pietersen fell to Sreesanth, who was making a much-publicised reappearance after two toe operations which threatened to end his career and which confined him to a wheelchair for several months.

As Bell battled on, England then lost five wickets in nine overs. Jalaj Saxena's offbreaks soon accounted for Eoin Morgan and Jos Buttler and Buttler's Somerset team-mate, Craig Kieswetter, found no immediate release from a shaky year in an England shirt when he fell for a fifth-ball duck, medium-pacer Mohit Sharma having him caught at the wicket.

Kieswetter's ODI place is assured in the absence of his fellow wicketkeeper-batsman Jonny Bairstow for personal reasons, but if England become fearful about the reliability of their batting order, Buttler could face competition for the final batting place from Joe Root.

England switch from the Model Sports Complex to the Feroz Shah Kotla to face Delhi in the second warm-up game on Tuesday.

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Posted by   on (January 9, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

India-A have Started!!! Now its turn for India!!! Come on India...

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (January 8, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

@JG2704 I suspect that the BCCI would run into legal problems if it tried to restrain British passport holders who have qualified for nationality through birth rather than through residence (e.g. KP) from representing England. Nationality laws in the UK give offspring the right to British nationality through either parent. Would there be a problem for people if KP had been born in Jamaica or, like Nasser Hussain, in Delhi, I wonder?

Posted by spiritwithin on (January 8, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

how come there is no fight and self boasting from various fans here except few?but nice to see honest assessment from fans from both sides,as an indian fan i wont be surprised if india lose the series and wont be surprised either if india won it courtesy few player who's gives their everything to stake their claim in the all important ind-aus series but overall its advantage England bcoz the way indian team is playing especially their batsman its gonna be another hard time for team india,my take Eng 3-2

Posted by JG2704 on (January 8, 2013, 12:43 GMT)

@gsingh7 on (January 08 2013, 09:46 AM GMT) So by that logic neither should IPL sides be allowed all these imports. In fact Delhi Daredevils (for example) should only be allowed to play Delhi born players. At least all our imports live in England and have done for some time in order to qualify

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 8, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

delhi is 96/0 in 17 and these same bowlers will be beaten to fences by indian national team come the odis, i see three peat 5-0 whitewashes in coming fortnight

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 8, 2013, 11:40 GMT)

talk current issues no one player from outside country in sub continent teams same can not be said of aus and england, icc must take lead from fifa to ensure fair play and integrity

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (January 8, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

@ gsingh7 on (January 08 2013, 09:46 AM GMT) rubbish. Are you saying that players like KS Ranjitsingji, Duleepsinghji, Nawab Iftikar, Ali Khan, Raman Subba Row were "transferred" between nations?!?! nonsense. If there had been hard regulation regarding these fine INDIAN players then world would never have heard of them. World would be barren. England gave these players their chance. Would you rather it was otherwise?!?! It is clear to me that some people simple do not understand or have any concept of migration of peoples. Example in subcontinental history are many and manifest. Look them up. Start with 1947....

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 8, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

@maddy20 on (January 08 2013, 06:35 AM GMT), actually, I'd say that Cook's second innings in the first Test was the turning point in that series.

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 8, 2013, 9:46 GMT)

maddy is right , icc must put end to import cricketers like kp, like what fifa did , if u cant find 11 english born men then no need to play the game, one day bcci will pressure icc to put end to such tranfers between nations

Posted by JG2704 on (January 8, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

@WheresTheEmpire on (January 07 2013, 13:18 PM GMT) It's probably more a shock because they expected the temperatures which they played in a fortnight or so ago but nice comms nonetheless

@maddy20 on (January 08 2013, 06:35 AM GMT) It's unusual for you not to make wild predictions but maybe you're finally learning after your recent woes. India will probably win handsomely and the pressure is hugely on them because despite Eng's ranking , they are not an established ODI side and the home fans will be demanding. As for your comms re nationality (which is old hat and desperate) , could Eng fans also cite that we are a much smaller nation where cricket isn't as big a sport as it is in India. In fact we don't even play 50 over cricket at domestic level. Re taking the imports away , we only had one of those players you mentioned playing in the T20 series which we drew. Granted he starred but then we also had Jade who was a liability

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (January 8, 2013, 7:39 GMT)

It was predictable that the usual suspects would come out and crow (not a lot of good news for them recently) and the England supporters would point out that this is just a first warm-up. It's a valuable wake-up call for England... no more, no less. The India A side looked a lot better and more motivated than their seniors and England were poor, no two ways about it. It is only a disaster to lose though if it becomes a habit and it is not that... yet.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (January 8, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

@maddy20 pleasing to see more realistic comment from you these day. However - you revert to type with remark regarding nationality. Come off it man would you rather live in a world where we are not able to enjoy fine skill of those such as Morgan and KP simply because of some fluke of birth? Surely not. These entertain us richly.

Posted by maddy20 on (January 8, 2013, 6:35 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip Last 20 ODI results. India vs England India won 14, Eng won 3, tied 2. So England did whip India pretty badly just like in the 5-0 loss to India in the 2011 ODI series! Yes you did beat us in tests but ODI is a different ball game altogether. I would not make atrocious predictions, but this time around it will be a close contest given our team's absymal form for sometime now and England's Saffa U-19 imports(KP, Trott, and Kieswetter), Irish import(Morgan) are in good form. Take out these 4 and play 11 Englishmen and India would beat them in any format, any where! Remember KP's innings was the turning point in the test series.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 8, 2013, 3:46 GMT)

@Kolpak1989 on (January 08 2013, 03:09 AM GMT), so you think that this one warmup game carries more weight than 4-0 results against both Pakistan and Australia and the rest of the results that got England to the #1 ranking (which has subsequently been taken by SA I believe)? Sure this was a poor performance and England is far too inconsistent to be considered a great ODI team but it's rather selective to judge them on this one game of no consequence and ignore all the good results they've had against full international opposition.

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (January 8, 2013, 3:09 GMT)

What an abysmal effort from the supposed best 50 over team in the world! The Sherminator was the only one who wasn't completely atrocious and he was dropped twice! Pretty second rate outfit really.

Posted by Des_65 on (January 8, 2013, 2:44 GMT)

Indian fielding is not good at times. In the ODI loss to Pakistan, Jamshed was dropped by Yuvraj. In the Calcutta Test, Pujara dropped Cook off Zaheer when he was in 10s (tens). Cook then scored high hundred. We cannot argue on ifs & buts but these were very important lapses which costed India dearly.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (January 7, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

@CricketMaan on (January 07 2013, 15:01 PM GMT) - top comment and welcome!! I like to talk with honest fan - but although England "number 1" ODI I honestly think this prove nothing.... England whipped in India ODI regularly also in Australia ODI regularly. So I think I have no idea which way this will go! England bowling lack Swann + Anderson who were very effective in India Test. Also - England combatted Saeed Ajmal well in UAE ODI, but England batting must still be regarded as suspect v spin. Even so, India batting not what it was and India bowler unproven. Should be interesting!

Posted by CricketMaan on (January 7, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip - all said and done, England is yet to win a ODI world cup, Ind have 2 of them. Now thatz living in the past i know. But it holds good for your argument too. However I see this time England having an upper hand with Indians in awful batting form. Tell english bowlers to quickly work on thier inswing or talk to Wasim and that is enough to win this series. I see 3-2 dont konw which way.

Posted by WheresTheEmpire on (January 7, 2013, 13:18 GMT)

So, despite most English players coming from the middle of an English winter, they are finding it too cold. Oh bless! Are they missing their mummies as well?

Posted by CandidIndian on (January 7, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

Results of practice matches should not be taken seriously,its surprising that people are making predictions based on this result.Reality is that India has lost test series at home after 8 years and lost ODI series at home after three years.In addition to that ,Eng are currently no 1 in ODIs,they have shown good form by beating Aussies and Pakistan recently .This is winter season in India and conditions will be favorable for fast bowlers.England losing a practice match does not negate all these factors. .India have a young team which is in transition face ,we would like to see good competitive cricket from them whether they win or lose.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (January 7, 2013, 13:12 GMT)

Interesting side note, but the cracks in 'Team England' are getting bigger by the day. After KP's stand-off means he now gets to pick and choose his matches, so now does Flower. With Giles stepping in, what happens if Giles's rubbish record continues? What about the reverse? When we fail to regain the ashes in the Australian summer this year, what pressure will there be on Flower? The powers that be have created this inadvertent rivalry between the two coaches, and when we slide down the rankings, who will be the fall guy? My guess is Flower will have one of those "achieved everything i want to achieve' press conferences that Strauss fronted after being humiliated by the Proteas.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 7, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

@VillageBlacksmith on (January 07 2013, 12:09 PM GMT), in the scorebook Amla played well on SA's last tour of England but, if he hadn't been dropped, he wouldn't have passed 50 the entire tour.

Posted by VillageBlacksmith on (January 7, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

in the scorebook bell played well, in reality he was dropped twice, something that i expect will not happen in the ODIs when ''normal service will be resumed'' and bell will be returned to the hutch early... As well as all the other absentees, Bairstow will be sorely missed

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 7, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

@vacant slip -- india thrashed english national side 5-0 in last series in india just a year ago , also thrashed them 5-0 in the series previous to that,, hoping a three-peat this winter from men in blue, come on INDIA

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (January 7, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster. So, fresh from claiming you do not not like Test match here you are now claiming England "mediocre" ODI. Have you learned nothing? Let us survey India and England recent ODI "performance" England beat South Africa in South Africa 2-1. 2011; India said they would thrash England ODI in England. India lost 3-0. India fan claim Pakistan will wash England in ODI in UAE. England wash Pakistan in UAE 4-0. India said they would win CB series in Australia. India didn't even make final. England thrash Australia 4-0 in England. India said they would win Asia cup. India didn't even make the final. They said they would whip Pakistan ODI series. India lost. So @Cpt.Meanster this should be a time of quiet reflection for you. A time to not boast or claim that England are mediocre, because if England are - then what does that make India?

Posted by JG2704 on (January 7, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

@maximum6 on (January 06 2013, 22:07 PM GMT) While I am often a Bell critic (and I feel justly so) , I can't (on this occasion) see how Bell could have done anything more. He scored at a run a ball and only hit out towards the end after everyone else (battingwise) had gone. In fact he's the only batsman to come out of this game with credit

@SK5983 on (January 06 2013, 20:45 PM GMT) Your team is probably about as good as we could field with the squad we have. The plus about fielding Bres (Broad is out anyway) is that with his injury record there's always the chance that he'll get injured meaning they can't pick him for other series. I don't mean that nastily towards Bres as a person

Posted by JG2704 on (January 7, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster on (January 06 2013, 20:24 PM GMT) re "even for all those English fans who are cheerleaders of test cricket." LOL . You're probably one of the last who should be brandishing the cheerleader name at people. Obviously just a coincidence that you were commenting regularly and like an enthusiast when India were winning the test series and then came out with the "Boring Test cricket" jibes towards the end of the series and a coincidence that you went missing after England levelled the T20 series after previously rubbishing England in T20/ODIs. But you're correct in that it's a fascinating series

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (January 7, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

Oh come on, don't give the excuses of 'cold' for losing the match! At least the English players would have experienced such temperatures back in England but how about the Indians? Mukund and Vijay are from TN where temperature is 40'c most part of the year, yet they managed to score 50s. We also had many players from Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh in there!

Posted by landl47 on (January 7, 2013, 4:45 GMT)

I thought this was supposed to be a warm-up game? Judging from the reports, it seems to have been a cold-up game.

Posted by   on (January 7, 2013, 4:38 GMT)

Selectors wont include 2 openers from Tamilnadu as it would be against the board's policy of picking players from zones rather than selecting players based on their form!!!

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 7, 2013, 2:55 GMT)

@Mohammad Timur Rashid Ruman on (January 07 2013, 01:15 AM GMT), for those who haven't been following the England news, Ashley Giles was named head coach for both the ODI and T20 teams last year, with Flower to remain in charge of the Test team and also to have overall responsibility for all teams as director. This is designed to extend Flower's time as England team director by giving him more time to spend at home with his family. If the ECB insisted on Flower remaining with all three teams day to day then he would undoubtedly have left the position sooner than he now will.

Posted by   on (January 7, 2013, 1:15 GMT)

why Giles incharge?? What about Andy Flower??? He did very well.

Posted by Nampally on (January 7, 2013, 0:51 GMT)

Mukund & Vijay batted very well as the openers against the England attack. Actually Team India A did better than Indian Team under Dhoni in the ODI series against Pakistan. Today, Indian selectors picked the squad to play against England in the ODI's but did not include even a single player from the same Team India A that beat England. I find that very strange. Why should a team of youngsters be assembled to play against England without an end objective - such as filling the vacancies. India is looking for a new opening pair & here was Vijay & Mukund with loud claims as openers . Neither Vijay nor Mukund got picked. Pujara was the only change to replace Sehwag. Indian team under Dhoni failed so badly in the first 2 ODI's against Pakistan that its top 5 batsmen crumbled against pace. Yet 4 of those 5 are still there. Pujara, the best Indian batsmen is now added to compensate for other 4. No wonder India with such immense talent always look weak & vulnerable even against Pakistan!.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (January 6, 2013, 23:51 GMT)

Front-Foot_lunge on (January 06 2013, 19:42 PM GMT) As an England fan- You are patently not an England fan but an unconvincing imposter of the real deal. It was even mildly amusing at first but your alter ego obsession is frankly alarming now and perhaps professional assistance should be sought. I suppose this pre-occupation with England is a sign of the fear you hold prior to the back to back Ashes, which I believe if England win both will mean they have been triumphal more times than Aussie (we mustn't count our chickens though that would be so colonial).

Posted by wake_up_india on (January 6, 2013, 23:40 GMT)

I bet this India-A side would beat the Naional side, thanks to the BCCI's selection politics. That is a contest that is sorely needed.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (January 6, 2013, 23:34 GMT)

I do not want to upset anyone but when India are/were top of any of the ICC rankings it is a true standard of worth when other teams are ie. England it is a very poor indicator. The only reason I make this point is England are currently ranked No.1 in ODI, and have been for a while now but are reported to be mediocre in this format, surely this means all teams ranked below are less than mediocre or am I just a bit of a dullard.

Posted by jackiethepen on (January 6, 2013, 23:32 GMT)

Bravado? Why does Bell need to change his general persona, maximum? Bell's just got 91. He doesn't need to do anything but bat like that and field like he always does. Leave the bravado to those who need it. Bell is dismissing all the doomsayers.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (January 6, 2013, 22:07 GMT)

Ian Bell said it did not matter a monkeys...thank god ! He needs to act from that bravado. it's always in his batting and really he needs to translate it into his general persona. It's a bit cold there really, and we do better in 35 degrees.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (January 6, 2013, 20:45 GMT)

England team, Welcome to India, and make the ODI series interesting test our batsmen more so they can learn more and play well.And for your team i think dont keep Broad or Bresanan near the team, they will help our batsmen to gain the confidence and will become superstar once again. Play Finn, Derbach and Woakes with 2 good spinners Tredwell and Briggs. England XI: Cook, Bell, Patel Pietersen, Morgan, Buttler, Woakes, Tredwell, Briggs, Finn, Dernbach. India XI: Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Kumar, Ishant/Ashwin, Shami

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 6, 2013, 20:24 GMT)

Given how well the India A boys beat England... I reckon the same group of players should have re-named themselves as team INDIA and play England at Rajkot on the 11th. Cause, the current India team with some struggling players can be fair game for England after their miserable performance against Pakistan. Besides, England are an average ODI team. Test cricket is something England are very good at unlike the 50 overs format. Having said that, I think England's mediocrity is equally matched by the current Indian ODI team which is equally mediocre. So it should be a fascinating series even for all those English fans who are cheerleaders of test cricket.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (January 6, 2013, 19:42 GMT)

As an England fan, I am hardly surprised at the result here. After being one loss away from out test team being the worst performing english side in history after humiliating losses to Pakistan, Sri Lanka an South Africa, we thought that fluking two wins against a sub-par indian team means we're world beaters again. Likewise in the ODI arena, beating an undermanned Aussie side who were over here in their off season is hardly a form guide for our ODI side. Essentially, this result shows more where "Team England" is, below par and struggling against an 'A' side.

Posted by skilebow on (January 6, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

@itsthewayuplay - don't even think about it mate and certainly don't worry about it RandyOZ has been a regular troll on this site for years. Pay no attention to him...no one else does!

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 19:01 GMT)

seniours players should take some ideas from india A team

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (January 6, 2013, 18:08 GMT)

@RandyOZ if England are one of the worst ODI teams in the world and can still beat Australia 6-1, where does put Aus in the table?

Posted by JG2704 on (January 6, 2013, 17:34 GMT)

Obviously an embarrassing defeat for the England side. I'm actually surprised at the lack of junk comms so far apart from the obvious 1. Re our team selection , I'm not sure who we have out there who may do too much better. Obviously Cook comes in , KP presumably drops to 3 , Morgan at 4 and then who knows. I wonder if England will keep going with Craig or if they may give the gloves to his team mate. Like others I'm not so sure about Patel and esp at 3. I think Woakes is probably more of a test player but I'm not sure if him and Bres should be in the same team in India. I said before the series that I thought Wright should be out there but we should still be doing better than this. Well played the often criticised by many (inc myself) Bell and Dernbach. Will prob keep Jade in the shorter formats side and Bell in the test side for the next few years

Posted by JG2704 on (January 6, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

@jackiethepen on (January 06 2013, 13:42 PM GMT) To be fair it was (apart from your man) our batsmen who let the side down.

Posted by abhiyog on (January 6, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Like the ECB policy of making their best players play and their B team for ODI and T20 whereas with BCCI their best play Domestic cricket and worst play all 3 Formats,not to get carried away with a fluke win over Pak today or a fluke English loss to our A team....

Posted by xylo on (January 6, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

It looks like I am showing great batting form like Alastair Cook. I am out of action with a bad cold as well ;-)

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 17:04 GMT)

The first ODI is in Rajkot on 11th Jan

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 16:49 GMT)

since 2010 every year, IND nd ENG playing odi series, so no need of another one... it makes cricket boring

Posted by Trickstar on (January 6, 2013, 16:40 GMT)

The batting looks strong but the bowling doesn't look up to much. Apart from Finn there's a serious lack of wicket taking ability, you can get away with it in T20's but 50 overs is a different animal. After watching the India v Pakistan series, it's a shame Anderson and Broad aren't playing, the balls been swinging around big time and the pitches have looked fairly lively, Jimmy especially would have been real threat with the 2 new balls. All in all it's too inexperienced and lacking penetration, Dernbach has looked rubbish for the past year, Bresnan is inconsistent and Woakes isn't much of a one day bowler but would be good for the all rounder role. Swann is a huge hole in the side, he always gets wickets and very rarely goes for more then 4.5 rpo, we won't get that from Tredwell or Briggs, although it will be good experience for them. With a full side out I reckon we'd beat them, with this attack, it's going to be about putting up big scores.

Posted by ashes61 on (January 6, 2013, 16:22 GMT)

jackiethepen: Don't be too certain that Tredwell will be "hammered by Kohli & Dhoni etc." Outside England he's not too well known but followers of ENG and county cricket should be much better informed & well aware of his pedigree. He's a VERY canny bowler. Only Swann has kept him out of the Test side in the last 2 or 3 years - deservedly so of course. Did you not see Tredwell wrap up S Africa last summer? I'd be very surprised if he is not (a) England's top wicket taker of this series and (b) the top spinner from both sides - all at an economical rate. It will also be interesting to see how he copes with the new ODI fielding regulation, which Swann has yet to experience. Tredwell is guaranteed 5 consecutive matches so will be able to really show his worth. Hopefully whoever keeps wkt to Tredwell will be up to the mark - neither Bairstow, Buttler or Kieswetter are nearly as good or as consistent as Jones is these days, the pair being responsible for a lot of wkts for Kent.

Posted by TLKC on (January 6, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

Agree with Jackiethepen. Who was captaining this side? Bell or Morgan?

Posted by Handy87 on (January 6, 2013, 16:09 GMT)

Yes RandyOZ, the worst ODI team yet they are currently ranked number 1 in the world, please explain that one to me. Some of the India A players should clearly be in the first team. England had a few players missing who will certainly be playing next week.

Posted by GoCho on (January 6, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

@ randyOz good to see you trolling after a break. Maybe it was this break that led you to forget the ODI whitewash the Aussies suffered in England the last time these 2 played? What about the UAE series win over Pakistan, who you should admit are a better odi side than Australia itself?

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (January 6, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

This is what I was talking about - India has loads of talent. It's lack of vision on the part of our Selectors that's killing us. I say make Dhoni captain of India A and let that team play as Indian against England.

Posted by RandyOZ on (January 6, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

The inevitable slide of England continues on its merry way. Right down there with Bangladesh as one of the worst ODI teams in the world.

Posted by yorkshire-86 on (January 6, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

What is the obsession with Samit Patel? He should have been rested if not dropped for this series, he was dreadful in his last few games. And why is it wicketkeepers are only allowed to open or bat 6/7? If they are wanting to give Kieswetter a chance, why not bat him at 3? It would be an ideal position for him, cook/bell/kieswetter/KP/morgan is a strong top 5. Also Kieswetter's place assures as Bairstow is the only other wicketkeeper? Im pretty sure Buttler is a specialist wicketkeeper as well... Rest Patel from the second warmup, and get Root some games.

Posted by Bruisers on (January 6, 2013, 15:14 GMT)

This is more of an India 'B' team. I mean it's nowhere close to being India's A team. 'A' team members are playing Ranji Trophy right now. Anyways, I'm not sure why Rishi Dhawan didn't get a game. He is an allrounder who'd easily walk into the national team.

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Is india vs england 1st ODI in nagpur?

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 6, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

I wont read too much into Vijays contribution. He is not good against moving ball. But iam more interested in seeing the bowlers barring sreesanth(who IMO is good in seaming pitches in test cricket). Lets bring in all these bowlers against England even if it means losing the series. We need to find 5-6 fast bowlers for WC 2015.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 6, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

@richardror on (January 06 2013, 14:11 PM GMT), I don't think that factors in at all. I think that it's just the case that, while they would like to win as many bilateral ODI games and series as possible, it's not their #1 priority. Getting a look at those players who are possibles for the Champions Trophy and likelies for the 2015 WC is more important than actually winning.

Posted by jackiethepen on (January 6, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

We know it was a very cold and foggy day but the confusion over who was captain in this game seems extraordinary. Cricinfo has now Morgan has captain in the scorecard and Bell announced as captain by Giles before the game in the match report - or was the report just fanciful padded out writing? Is it possible to find out exactly who did captain this game just for the record?

Posted by richardror on (January 6, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

Interesting to see England have a second string side out, appears they are very confident of beating what will no doubt be indias best side

Posted by asvigneshbalaji on (January 6, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

@sk5983: are u suggesting a delhi team as team India?

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (January 6, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

I have no idea what England were playing at with their batting line-up. I mean Patel at 3... Kieswetter at 6... Very strange, although now's the time to experiment like this I suppose before the actual games (for a change!). I still think an extra spinner like Briggs would be better than sticking with the tried-and-failed Bresnan, although I'd prefer Bresnan to Broad at least...

Posted by   on (January 6, 2013, 13:50 GMT)

murali vijay should open the innings against england, he is a match winner in 3:1 ratio

Posted by peterss on (January 6, 2013, 13:49 GMT)

@SK5983: Dont go anywhere near the selection committee! In: Sreesanth, Vijay, Mukund, Pujara. Out: Rohit Sharma, Sehwag, Gambhir, Dinesh Karthik. Dinda is still pretty good as a death bowler. Shami Ahmed seems good too. Pujara needs to come into the 11.

Posted by jackiethepen on (January 6, 2013, 13:42 GMT)

Looking at our bowling attack it seemed inadequate before the match. With Broad unfit, it may have been a mistake to 'rest' Anderson. Swann obviously needed a rest. Unless Anderson has undisclosed niggles - he looked mightily fit in the Tests bowling only in short bursts - then he should have been selected. We miss a leader of the attack, someone the India batsmen fear. As for the spinners? Patel and Tredwell will be hammered surely by the likes of Kohli, Dhoni, etc. After Ajmal they will seem like net bowlers. Hope I am wrong. Panesar and Swann were just brilliant but we seem to lack ODI spinners or do we? Giles is tough enough to make changes for the future. Pleased that Bell did well and led from the front.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (January 6, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

Drop Ashwin and bring in Jalaj Saxena as off-spin allrounder, and Drop Sehwag and gambhir too bring Unmukt Chand and Kedar Jadhav. Drop Dinda and Bring in Sreesanth and Take pujara as extra batsmen in squad. Dont drop Rohit and jadeja we have given them so many chances so now time has come that they will play good

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