England in India 2012-13 January 20, 2013

Poor weather keeps Broad at home

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Stuart Broad will not join up with the England ODI squad in India after poor weather prevented him from leaving London.

Broad had been rested for the first three ODIs and was scheduled to return for the final two matches but his departure was delayed by snow and freezing conditions at London Heathrow airport. With the forecast not set to improve quickly, Broad would have struggled to arrive in sufficient time for the fourth ODI on Wednesday.

Broad tweeted: "Gutted I can't get to India. I'm off home with all my luggage at Heathrow. I'll be waiting for the lads in New Zealand!!"

He will now remain in Britain and fly to New Zealand for the first warm-up match on February 4, ahead of the Twenty20 series for which Broad will resume the captaincy having been injured for England's two T20s against India before Christmas.

"It's not ideal because we were hoping for him to come out here and, whether or not he played in one of the last two games, just do some prep for New Zealand," England one-day coach Ashley Giles said. "But we have a bit of time in New Zealand and he'll meet us there."

It could be questioned how useful a week in India would be ahead of a tour to New Zealand where conditions will be a complete contrast. Broad will now return to Loughborough to continue his preparation.

And although there were doubts about Broad's fitness to play in India, his absence reduces England's options if they choose to make a change to their bowling attack. Jade Dernbach is the main candidate to be replaced after taking only four wickets in the series. The cost of his wickets - 46.75 - compares favourably to the other England seamers but his economy rate of 7.79 is by far the most expensive of the frontline bowlers on either side.

Giles said that part of the trip "was always about having a look at different options" and England could recall Chris Woakes, who took 1 for 60 in the second ODI, or pick Stuart Meaker, whose pace caused India problems in the T20 series. They also have left-arm spinner Danny Briggs in the squad if they need a second specialist slow bowler but conditions in Mohali for the fourth ODI are likely to provide more help to the quick bowlers.

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  • CricShanghai on January 23, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Noticed the camera with the high and wide shot of the ground perhaps to show viewers a perspective of field-placement which I think it's too tedious even with an automated mechanism but more importantly, I don't think it's effective. I believe it's so easy nowadays with so many expert game commentators, broadcasters and software developers, I am sure someone can find some solutions that incorporate field-placement (real-life ground-shot with software) and commentary that provide good viewing experience at the same time educational for the youngsters who are learning the craft of bowling and field-placing!!

  • sarach77 on January 23, 2013, 3:47 GMT

    broad is fearing about playing against india in india that's why he always want to quit india tour

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on January 22, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Is there any way to stop him going from New Zealand as well? I mean seriously - what's the point in sending over another passenger that doesn't know what a yorker is and goes at 7 an over on a good day? Please, get him back to county cricket for a season to get some fitness and form back.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 22, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    @Meety Got even more pointless now. Just seen the photos of Dharamshala under deep snow. -3C at match start time. 5th ODI very unlikely to go ahead unless there is a major change in the weather there! If he has to play, send him to New Zealand where it is, at least, summer.

  • Meety on January 21, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    I think it would of been a bit pointless sending Broad all that way for 2 ODIs anyway. He'll be better off heading straight to NZ.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan Presumably today's flight was full so the first available places were tomorrow. If it's urgent you have to find an alternative route. I've been in this situation myself with snow delays (not in the UK) and the first available places were FOUR days later!! (that's on a route with a minimum of 4 flights per day). I take it as an indication that, as he wasn't going to play, the ECB was not so fussed about getting him to India anyway.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 21, 2013, 13:34 GMT

    @CricketingStargazer Thanks for the explanation (but still think that two days delay is more than a delay . Would it be the same case for business people? Or If this was a world cup event would they have done the same ? I just wrote that selectors did not feel the need to send him on urgent basis. Hmm different interpretations :)

    @jmcilhinney i am least interested in the conspiracy theories.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    @jmcilhinney Sending him was a "nice to have". The decision that it wasn't worth his while if the trip was cut by two days undoubtedly contributed. And, having a player who is coming back from injury netting at -3C (as reported elsewhere on this site) is an invitation to bring on a new injury anyway!

  • jmcilhinney on January 21, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan, fond of conspiracy theories? If the ECB didn't want to send Broad they just wouldn't send him. They don't need to play such childish games.

  • TheBigBoodha on January 21, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    The Lord works in mysterious ways. Divine intervention saves England again.

  • CricShanghai on January 23, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Noticed the camera with the high and wide shot of the ground perhaps to show viewers a perspective of field-placement which I think it's too tedious even with an automated mechanism but more importantly, I don't think it's effective. I believe it's so easy nowadays with so many expert game commentators, broadcasters and software developers, I am sure someone can find some solutions that incorporate field-placement (real-life ground-shot with software) and commentary that provide good viewing experience at the same time educational for the youngsters who are learning the craft of bowling and field-placing!!

  • sarach77 on January 23, 2013, 3:47 GMT

    broad is fearing about playing against india in india that's why he always want to quit india tour

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on January 22, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Is there any way to stop him going from New Zealand as well? I mean seriously - what's the point in sending over another passenger that doesn't know what a yorker is and goes at 7 an over on a good day? Please, get him back to county cricket for a season to get some fitness and form back.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 22, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    @Meety Got even more pointless now. Just seen the photos of Dharamshala under deep snow. -3C at match start time. 5th ODI very unlikely to go ahead unless there is a major change in the weather there! If he has to play, send him to New Zealand where it is, at least, summer.

  • Meety on January 21, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    I think it would of been a bit pointless sending Broad all that way for 2 ODIs anyway. He'll be better off heading straight to NZ.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan Presumably today's flight was full so the first available places were tomorrow. If it's urgent you have to find an alternative route. I've been in this situation myself with snow delays (not in the UK) and the first available places were FOUR days later!! (that's on a route with a minimum of 4 flights per day). I take it as an indication that, as he wasn't going to play, the ECB was not so fussed about getting him to India anyway.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 21, 2013, 13:34 GMT

    @CricketingStargazer Thanks for the explanation (but still think that two days delay is more than a delay . Would it be the same case for business people? Or If this was a world cup event would they have done the same ? I just wrote that selectors did not feel the need to send him on urgent basis. Hmm different interpretations :)

    @jmcilhinney i am least interested in the conspiracy theories.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    @jmcilhinney Sending him was a "nice to have". The decision that it wasn't worth his while if the trip was cut by two days undoubtedly contributed. And, having a player who is coming back from injury netting at -3C (as reported elsewhere on this site) is an invitation to bring on a new injury anyway!

  • jmcilhinney on January 21, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan, fond of conspiracy theories? If the ECB didn't want to send Broad they just wouldn't send him. They don't need to play such childish games.

  • TheBigBoodha on January 21, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    The Lord works in mysterious ways. Divine intervention saves England again.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 10:19 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan Heathrow is running almost at full capacity so, when bad weather means that take-offs and landings have to be more spaced out the only way of doing it is to cancel flights. BA offers passengers an alternative but, in this case, the two day delay makes it not really worth his while travelling. As you will have seen, he wasn't expected to play in either of these matches and going mainly to get some outdoor training ahead of the New Zealand tour. The sub-text seems to be that his fitness needed to be assessed to see how ready he is to play in New Zealand. If he were not fit it would not be a great loss because Grahan Onions would step in and he'll enjoy the green seamers of New Zealand.

  • Charlie101 on January 21, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    @maddy20 / Randyoz suggest you post about Hodge being the new saviour of Aussie batting at number 6 and the whole team crapping out of another defeat because of a few drops of rain rather than SA / England remarks.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 21, 2013, 9:02 GMT

    Not that it will make any difference, but I'd play Woakes for Dernbach and give serious consideration to playing Briggs for Bresnan. I am not desperately unhappy to see Stuart Broad miss out on this trip. In fact, I wouldn't be sad if he missed out on New Zealand too to get him properly fit and hungry again. There is no point in trying to bring him back quickly only to break down again: rest and working to get back to full fitness will do him far more good.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on January 21, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    Sorry Yuvaraj, you have to wait for some more time.

  • anver777 on January 21, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    Like the London weather, its a cool news for India...... normally in the past Broad's injury comebacks are very good & with this struggling Eng attack his presence could have made big difference.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 21, 2013, 7:01 GMT

    Is it really a poor weather? Does that mean no one can fly from london to india during this period? Hard to believe. Could be the selectors have decided not to send.

    Me thinks broad is way better than samit patel in batting department.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 21, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    His inclusion WON'T make any difference to England. Besides, it's meaningless to fly him out to India just for ONE possible game. Cause, the game at Dharamshala looks to be spoiled by the weather. Much of the northern parts of India are covered in snowy/chilly conditions and fog. Even the game in Mohali, which is in the state of Punjab could have tricky weather. So it's better for Broad to stay at home and focus on his country's tour to NZ. England should play Chris Woakes instead of Dernbach for the last 2 games.

  • maddy20 on January 20, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    "RandyOZ Pretty darn sure that the ECB headquarters in Capetown is working hard to fix that. Their talent scouts must be prowling the South African cricket academies day in and day out! But I am afraid they have to wait for 2 years for their SA picks to become eligible to play for England! @Whocaresabout IPL That is England. This is India. Different conditions all together. I would not say Yuvi will hit 6 sixes again, but given his drop in pace in recent times, its highly unlikely that he would have succeeded. One wonders why they are not playing a second spinner(Panesar) to support Tredwell. He would have been far more effective than any of the English seamers who are canon fodder for Indian batsmen.

  • JG2704 on January 20, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    @GeoffreysMother on (January 20 2013, 15:24 PM GMT) Can see your points but of the players you mentioned Woakes maybe deserves another go as he has played less games and had less experience. To me Broad,Bres and Jade have regressed from how they were doing back a year or so ago. Broad may be the best of the 3 but I would also rest him for the NZ tour. Re Jade , he does bowl at the death but then so does Finn and he's not as expensive as Jade. What's wrong with another spinner in the attack?

  • WhoCaresAboutIPL on January 20, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    I notice all those keen to dig up the 6 sixes do not mention his Test match hat-trick against India at Trent Bridge - selective memory?

  • gsingh7 on January 20, 2013, 19:17 GMT

    yuvi have missed his sixer buddy broad, now england have a chance but finn and dernbach are there to compensate his loss, hope woakes play alongside finn and dernbach in 4 th and 5 th day, wud make good viewing for mohali fans along with rest of indians

  • IndiaNumeroUno on January 20, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    oh no! so no more 6 sixes Broad in the remaining ODI's for Yuvi... what a shame!

  • CaptainKool on January 20, 2013, 16:50 GMT

    @EnglishCricket Yea make him focus against NZ cuz against India, he would be worse than ever.. lol

  • Desisd on January 20, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    Hahaha..Like his inclusion is going to make a difference.

  • EnglishCricket on January 20, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    Stuart Broad is a very good player! no need for him to waste his time in India and instead, should focus for the series against New Zealand. Don't forget guys for those calling him as average or below that he scored a 100 against Pakistan.

  • brusselslion on January 20, 2013, 16:15 GMT

    I hope that the ECB bought a fully refundable fare?

  • RandyOZ on January 20, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    You wouldn't want such an average grade cricketer in the team anyway, but I suppose England's resources are that weak and the new wave of south africans arent working.

  • hhillbumper on January 20, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    I have a feeling he will still play a role in the Ashes. he needs to bowl to get fit and get grooved and there is no doubting that when he plays well he can bowl good teams out. Not sure why his performances have been so patchy but he can play

  • ultrasnow on January 20, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Yuvi misses you broadie...

  • GeoffreysMother on January 20, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Hang on! Last week it was Bresnan who should be nowhere near the side, now it is Dernbach! To be fair none of the three seamers (four if you include Woakes) have been that good and Dernbach always bowls at the start, in the powerplay and at the end so his economy rate will suffer. That said he has shown a lack of accuracy in bowling his stock ball (though I am not sure he has one), which is not good. Given that by resting players from the squad England seem to have shown that winning the series in India is less important than trying out players for the Champions Trophy and beyond then it is worth giving Meaker two games to see how he copes.

    Given the impact of two new balls/game I think I would include Onions in the squad for NZ. Anderson, Onions, Finn, Broad and Swann seems an attack that it would be hard to score against. Given that the batting is a bit flakey, restricting the opposition seems to be the best way to be successful.

  • skilebow on January 20, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    I think people are too harsh on Broad. Sure he has played badly recently and is injury prone but in my opinion he simply needed a rest. Hopefully now he has had that he can get going again. Quite frankly there is no one else in English cricket at the moment who can fulfil his role in the side. Saying Woakes is there is a complete joke! and Meaker would perform a different role as he has no batting ability

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 20, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    I agree with front foot, the best of the rest are doing a good job of keeping India to under 6 runs per over.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 20, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    He needs to fight his way back into the team again through first-class cricket. England have the best first class system in the world, and there are so many knocking on the door. Broad has to go back to his county and prove himself.

  • knight_in_cricket_gear on January 20, 2013, 14:01 GMT

    blessing in disguise for Eng..

  • malepas on January 20, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    What difference this would make to English squad,,I think this was good for England.

  • TripleCenturian on January 20, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Well having seen how ineffective Broad was in the Test series before Christmas, and in view of the frequent injury bulletins about him, this is perhaps good news for all anyway. It means there is less risk of England picking him in some dead ODI rubbers and Broad focusing on being fit for the tests in New Zealand. All England need to do now is work out which of the current squad can replace the wayward Dernbach who must surely be left out for the remainder if the series. Meaker and Woakes are already there anyway and Woakes superior batting must give him an advantage.

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  • TripleCenturian on January 20, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Well having seen how ineffective Broad was in the Test series before Christmas, and in view of the frequent injury bulletins about him, this is perhaps good news for all anyway. It means there is less risk of England picking him in some dead ODI rubbers and Broad focusing on being fit for the tests in New Zealand. All England need to do now is work out which of the current squad can replace the wayward Dernbach who must surely be left out for the remainder if the series. Meaker and Woakes are already there anyway and Woakes superior batting must give him an advantage.

  • malepas on January 20, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    What difference this would make to English squad,,I think this was good for England.

  • knight_in_cricket_gear on January 20, 2013, 14:01 GMT

    blessing in disguise for Eng..

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 20, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    He needs to fight his way back into the team again through first-class cricket. England have the best first class system in the world, and there are so many knocking on the door. Broad has to go back to his county and prove himself.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 20, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    I agree with front foot, the best of the rest are doing a good job of keeping India to under 6 runs per over.

  • skilebow on January 20, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    I think people are too harsh on Broad. Sure he has played badly recently and is injury prone but in my opinion he simply needed a rest. Hopefully now he has had that he can get going again. Quite frankly there is no one else in English cricket at the moment who can fulfil his role in the side. Saying Woakes is there is a complete joke! and Meaker would perform a different role as he has no batting ability

  • GeoffreysMother on January 20, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Hang on! Last week it was Bresnan who should be nowhere near the side, now it is Dernbach! To be fair none of the three seamers (four if you include Woakes) have been that good and Dernbach always bowls at the start, in the powerplay and at the end so his economy rate will suffer. That said he has shown a lack of accuracy in bowling his stock ball (though I am not sure he has one), which is not good. Given that by resting players from the squad England seem to have shown that winning the series in India is less important than trying out players for the Champions Trophy and beyond then it is worth giving Meaker two games to see how he copes.

    Given the impact of two new balls/game I think I would include Onions in the squad for NZ. Anderson, Onions, Finn, Broad and Swann seems an attack that it would be hard to score against. Given that the batting is a bit flakey, restricting the opposition seems to be the best way to be successful.

  • ultrasnow on January 20, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Yuvi misses you broadie...

  • hhillbumper on January 20, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    I have a feeling he will still play a role in the Ashes. he needs to bowl to get fit and get grooved and there is no doubting that when he plays well he can bowl good teams out. Not sure why his performances have been so patchy but he can play

  • RandyOZ on January 20, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    You wouldn't want such an average grade cricketer in the team anyway, but I suppose England's resources are that weak and the new wave of south africans arent working.