England in India 2012-13

Snow risk receding for final ODI

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January 22, 2013

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A view of the mountains in Dharamsala, Kings XI Punjab v Chennai Super Kings, IPL, Dharamsala, April 18, 2010
Stunning setting: Dharamsala is in the shadows of the Himalayas © Indian Premier League
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England's cricketers might think they are escaping the big freeze by being in India but they are likely to encounter shivering temperatures themselves later this week when they travel to Dharamsala on Sunday for the final ODI with doubts even persisting as to whether the game will go ahead.

Located in the foothills of the Himalayas, 1317 metres above sea level, the forecast is for temperatures to stay in single figures and there remains the chance of snow. However, organisers remain "hopeful" of getting a full 50-over contest in for the ground's first international.

India, though, are determined not to leave anything to chance as they aim to wrap up the series. "It's not certain we are going to have a game in Dharamsala," Virat Kohli said. "We are all aware, so this game becomes all the more important. It makes the game really, really important."

The Himachal Pradesh Cricket Association Stadium has hosted IPL matches over the past couple of years, serving as the second home for the Kings XI Punjab franchise. It was the IPL experience that convinced the association that they were capable of hosting international games.

However, the location also has issues with a lack of suitable hotels while the runway at the nearby airport is only capable of handling small planes so both England and India are likely to make the trip from Mohali by road.

The problems of stage matches in the north of India at this time of year has also led to a change in the schedule for the India-Australia Test matches. That series will now start in south before heading to Mohali and Delhi later in March.

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Posted by shahzadparacha on (January 25, 2013, 10:44 GMT)

International matches have been regularly played at the Wanderers in Johannesburg, South Africa which is located at more elevation from sea level as compared to this ground.

I believe it could be a good venue for staging matches in summer season in India.

Posted by mandi on (January 24, 2013, 18:44 GMT)

dharamshala ground is great palace,must watch match peoples all over world

Posted by SevereCritic on (January 24, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

I live at a higher altitude than this stadium and believe me that the rarefied oxygen in the air makes sports a bit of a challenge. You have to be really fit physically to play in stadiums like this. If Kumar is made to bowl 10 overs on the trot in this altitude, it will really drain him out unless he is used to these conditions.

Posted by vomhorizon on (January 24, 2013, 12:59 GMT)

I think many over romanticize the venue . Yes it is a very picturesque however their are serious problems with Parking, law enforcement and the overall size of the boundary (seems very small at certain points)..

Posted by kmgnath on (January 24, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Dharmasala ground is the best cricket ground location ever, this is soo beautiful setting. Second one in my view is in Cape Town. Next ones are in West Indies, Sri Lanka on the beautiful beach. NZ got one.. I am talking about the location setting, If it comes to facilities for spectators at the ground, non of the indian grounds make it even to average ones, its changed a lot from a decade back to now. I am hopping this will change in the decades to come.

Posted by Dona007 on (January 24, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

thats cool..... may be the overcast condition suit england bowlers.....

Posted by hotcric01 on (January 24, 2013, 5:44 GMT)

They can introduce a new format to the game called "Ice cricket" or "Winter cricket"..However this is one of my favorite cricketing venue in the world.

Posted by   on (January 24, 2013, 5:25 GMT)

BCCI's robotic scheduling has to change now. It has gone obsessive proportions now. In 2005, Pakistan played ODIs in scortching heat; Dharamshala would have been an ideal venue in that weather.

Posted by vomhorizon on (January 24, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

To schedule an ODI in Dharamshala in the middle of the winter is quite a dumb idea. As mentioned issues with the runways would mean that the players would need a 4-6 hour bus ride to dharamshala not to mention the fact that their may be no match. The BCCI has to manage the venue-schedule better as Dharamshala could have hosted a match against any team in the summer or any time but the 2-3 months of harsh winter. With so much sponsorship, fan following, and interest it would be unfortunate to have a match not take place and/or take place in freezing conditions with snow just because the BCCI wanted to have a match at Anurag Thakur's behest.

Posted by here2rock on (January 24, 2013, 1:08 GMT)

This time of the year, why organise a game there? A total lack of administration by BCCI.

Posted by anandkr on (January 23, 2013, 23:18 GMT)

This has been a season of new stadiums. Rajkot, Ranchi and now Dharamsala. Well Rajkot and Ranchi were brand new but Dharamsala, even though quite old and having hosted IPL games earlier, will host an international game for the first time. This is a very encouraging move by the administrators for which they should be lauded. We all saw Rajkot and Ranchi were all full with spectators but the same was not true for Mohali. This is a clear enough sign that we should give smaller towns increasing opportunities to host cricket matches and in this way, BCCI would also be able to build a solid cricket infrastructure. Why can't we have one world class cricket stadium in every state capital for example?

Posted by maf17 on (January 23, 2013, 22:27 GMT)

I hope the match goes ahead. This ground rivals Newlands as having the most breath-taking backdrop in world cricket, in all world sport for that matter. and the iconic stands with their pagoda-like tops are gorgeous.

Posted by Nampally on (January 23, 2013, 21:42 GMT)

Indeed it is a stunning setting for a Cricket match! I am sure the pitch will be closer to England pitches & the ball will be snaking & curling for at least first 20 overs. Sandeep Sharma will be the ideal opening bowler on this ground, as he was magical in the U-19 matches played in NZ with similar but much smaller hills around. B.Kumar & Shami should be able to revel here too. It remains to be seen who the Indian opening batsmen will be? Will Dhoni dare to risk Rohit Sharma again? Well Gambhir & Rahane were failing badly. Rohit opening the innings was a desperate move to give him a chance - magically it paid off! It is a treat of your lifetime to be able to play Cricket under such a setting & it would be even more satisfying to perform well. I am looking forward to watching this game on my PC & enjoy both the heavenly setting & the Match - Double treat!. Why not have more matches on this ground?

Posted by Paras.Rishi on (January 23, 2013, 19:39 GMT)

If this match gets canned, HPCA will have to wait for years according to the BCCI rotational policy for their next match. I'm literally praying right now to the Sun-Gods!

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 23, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

remove Gambhir NOW!! There are Rahane, Pujara, Tiwary, Dhawan etc who can open instead.

Posted by binu.emiliya on (January 23, 2013, 19:16 GMT)

@Raj 12345, I don't know why you want to replace Raina with Dinesh Karthik, you will not find a quality ODI player like Raina and he will fit in to any country eleven without a doubt , and i feel strange that you are commenting this after watching his todays match winning performance He is very much a team man he never tried for personal milestone he can try for a 100 today but he ensures Inda's victory by rotating the strike to Jadeja

Posted by kmgnath on (January 23, 2013, 18:54 GMT)

wow, rohit..into double figures... His attitude is the major problem...he thinks he is superstar, in just performing at IPL....He only performs well in IPL..today is an exception..lets see how long he can perform, England didn't do their homework, because they never thought he will score, going forward, he will be gone for LBW's like a sitting duck. He got talent, couple of performances in 5 years, and thinks he is superstar. If he perform consistently atleast once in 10-15 games , i'll take my words back.

Posted by tententen on (January 23, 2013, 18:25 GMT)

all the rohit bashers out there please shut ur mouth for some days for what he has done today. remember even sachin and sourav became greats only after they started opening after initially playing in middle order. iam big fan of rohit and days of nohit are over

Posted by passionatecricbug on (January 23, 2013, 18:00 GMT)

Wow, Nohit into double figures after 10 months of trying and failing. With this innings he has secured his place till his retirement.

Posted by penagamuri on (January 23, 2013, 17:52 GMT)

Why is every body bashing rohit sharma. This this kid a break . he played many matches but most of them way lower down the order. He scored almost 900 runs at number 4 position in 25 matches @45 average. He is indeed a great talent. Let him play upfront in the innings and you can comment. No matter how much you guys whine about his inclusion he is bound to be a permenant member in Team india in all formats .. its about time ... "Class in permenant and form is temporary" and rohit has got a lots and lots of class ...

Posted by anshu.s on (January 23, 2013, 17:31 GMT)

Well looking at comments below it has not been a good day for Rohit Sharma bashers, blame him all you want for getting repeated chances despite failures but please don't call him Nohit Sharma, first of all sobriquet given is not apt neither funny, his strike rate is much better than than certain favorites of online Indian fans such as Rahane,Pujara,Manoj Tiwary in domestic cricket and IPL.It has also been a bad series for Jadeza bashers who also has been affectinately called Sir Ravindra Jadeja by his doubters.I am not there biggest fan either but some of the vitriol and ridicule they recieve from some of the fans is unwarranted...

Posted by Harpreet on (January 23, 2013, 16:59 GMT)

It's a beautiful place. I'm from Hoshiarpur which is 5 hrs journey by road from the venue. I guess the management is out of their mind if they are thinking of travelling by road from Mohali as it will be 8 hrs journey. I hope common sense prevail in the end

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (January 23, 2013, 16:58 GMT)

Happy for Nohit .. i bet he'll play the next 20 matches purely based on this one inning.. But a match winning inning i must say!!! He was under huge pressure coming into this match so well played mate!!! Please someone sack Gambhir... its long overdue.

Posted by JustIPL on (January 23, 2013, 16:44 GMT)

Ishant is depending more on outside off lines so that batsmen take risk In reaching out for him with this he mixes balls on the leg stump line to cramp the batsmen for room. Obviously, in the initial overs batsmen not take risk but this strategy might be heavily tested against other sides. Ashwin is lost forever and not a useful bat in ODIs and Jadeja is not better than Shakeb. Indian batting seems coming to terms at least at home lets see the overseas trips.

Posted by JustIPL on (January 23, 2013, 16:43 GMT)

It looks like England did not come back after Christmas break while India faced quality bowling from Pakistan and also their bowlers had a go at weak Pakistan batting. This helped India surge to this point. It is really surprising that England cannot face a pace attack that looks like of an associate team or an average county side. Kumar has to be consumed early and Dhoni does not risk him in death overs. Shami is pacy but will get familiar with figures of 4th ODI in future and I will rate Umesh ahead of him despite his high economy rate.

Posted by RK.Chandru on (January 23, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

Now that Rohit made some runs finally, he'll go on playing for India irrespective of his performance for another year or so. That's how Indian cricket runs. Different yardsticks for different players... `wish. Shikar Dhawan or M. Vijay is tried in place of Ghambir at least and wish, Ashwin is rested and another fresh, young spinner is tried in his place...

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (January 23, 2013, 16:26 GMT)

Nohit trying to transform himself into Rohit again. Good for ya, Nohit. Do some justice to your talent no?

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (January 23, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

This Nohit Sharma played brillient innings and he will play for next 5 years, whether he makes 0 or ave <10. Some guys are rating him ahead of Raina, who has ave 36.55 vs Nohit's ave 31.22. I would rate Jadeja ahead of this guy, Jadeja has ave 29.96 (not bad compared to Nohit) but he has 69 wkts from 64 matchs with econ of 4.8. Wait, did I forget to say that Nohit Sharma is considered India's best batsman after Sachin, and miles ahead of Pujara.

Posted by Raj12345 on (January 23, 2013, 15:56 GMT)

Good show by Indian team in 4th ODI. Please continue the same.

I am reading Dhoni's comment on RG. "We all know Rohit is a gifted cricketer". Yeah yeah Gift arrives occasionally for fans. But people like RG & Raina, Indian cricket is a gift. you can survive as long as you can fit to walk. Dhoni answer my question, will you give same number of chances to DK like 15 ODIs even he is not performing like RG. Yes, then you will see another good batsman in middle to replace both RG & Raina. Since you don;t like DK to be in team, you keep surviving with both RG & Raina. Thank god finally both played in this series.

Posted by xxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzz on (January 23, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

England whipped... Morgan fails... Dernbach expensive... Another predictable match in a never-ending nightmare for English cricket.

Posted by Sushant.Nigam on (January 23, 2013, 15:47 GMT)

What a stunning stadium. This has to figure amongst the most beautiful grounds in the world to play cricket. Amazing.

Posted by wambling_future on (January 23, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

@shivasuresh: The article is referring to snow and not dew. Snowfall can occur during day time also so a day match does not guarantee any thing. May be the first inning might not get affected at all, but late in the second innings might see some interruption.

Posted by Lovetesh on (January 23, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

I would like to see India winning by D-L method with snowfall starts :) That would be first in India. Separately I am happy that BCCI has awarded the games in this series to new venues like Ranchi and Dharamshala. In every long series couple of games should be given to new or not so popular venues so that people across the country have chance to see their popular cricketers.

Posted by ProdigyA on (January 23, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

Though I love this stadium and the amazing views. But playing cricket in single digit temps is not easy. It hurts even with a tennis ball.

Posted by singharanu on (January 23, 2013, 13:27 GMT)

i fail to understand why some of us are not happy wid d'sala game. i m a resident of himachal and i can guarantee the people that if the game happens then it will be a treat for you to watch these players showering their talents in the laps of himalayas. remember they are not just players but the ambassadors of cricket and hosting international matches at such places will be very beneficial for local cricketers and cricket fans also. Moreover this is the first international odi being played on d'sala soil , so people are gonna njoy a lot.. TRust me this is the most beautiful stadium i have ever seen on tv sets as well i've been to..

Posted by abhiyog on (January 23, 2013, 13:17 GMT)

Im waiting to see the scoreboarb displaying 'match abandoned due to snow' for the first if India can wrap up the series in Mohali......

Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (January 23, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

How more clearly can I put this:


Posted by IndianInnerEdge on (January 23, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

This ground has to be amongs the top 10 for sheer scenic surrounding beauty....! LOL @ Harmony 111....@ Bonehead_maz-njoyed ur post as well...been there...done that...-pukekura park- NZ.... on another lighter note - trust the BCCI (frank)einsteins to lob a match at the most unsuitable venue considering the season, like playing tests and odi's in april/may in boiling heat....Geez even bone head ned could figure this out....any ways, hopefully the weather holds good for a cracker of a match admist stunning scenery:)

Posted by Potatis on (January 23, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

Despite the surroundings, it's never nice playing cricket with freezing fingers. Ouch.

Posted by shivasuresh on (January 23, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

No problem with snow as it scheduled Day match @ 09.00 IST.

Posted by gnat9 on (January 23, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

Someone in the organizing committee clearly hasn't been using his head. It is insane to be organizing a match in Dharamshala at this time of the year. Why could they have not chosen Hyderabad, Bengaluru, Chennai, Cuttack, Pune or any other of the central/south Indian cities where the weather will be more suitable?

Posted by Meety on (January 23, 2013, 3:17 GMT)

@InsideHedge on (January 22 2013, 18:00 PM GMT) - so true. I would love to do a cricket tour of India, but planning would be a nightmare & would only be suitable if I was travelling light. Shame. I would imagine many others would be put off in the same way.

Posted by Bonehead_maz on (January 23, 2013, 1:13 GMT)

wow ! what a ground :))) Reminds me of (totally different) playing a matches at St Ignatius college & Scott's college Sydney. I dropped a catches while studying the scenery not the match :) lol.

Posted by jammuthejatt on (January 23, 2013, 0:45 GMT)

what the hell were Organizers thinking when they scheduled this match in HP during this time of the year? How ignorant are they?

Posted by CrICkeeet on (January 22, 2013, 23:35 GMT)

ha ha ha i'm waiting 4 dat....snow often fall in football leagues...(man utd. recently played a snow match) bt now in cricket! wow...intrstng 2 see will umpire stop d game or keep playing...:) if its stop den 1st time the scorbrd show: "match delayed due to snow" :D

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 22, 2013, 22:07 GMT)

Each time I see this stadium, I imagine someone would hit a monstrous 6 where the ball would go deep in these snow clad mountains and after a while a yeti comes down with the ball with a WTH look on his face and causes a mayhem that forces the match to be abandoned. He also demands the culprit be handed over to him, and then a sheepish and scared Gayle or Warner or Viru or runs for cover.

This might be the only way to find if the abominable snowman exists or not. Let's bombard those peaks with cricket balls. :-p

Posted by roversgate on (January 22, 2013, 21:40 GMT)

I must admit, I never expected a title like "snow risk in..." in a series taking place in India. That being said, it was downright stupid to have a match being held in Dharamsala during winter, especially when the rest of the country - Mumbai, Kolkata, etc. are having nice pleasant weather for a change.

Posted by RameshRayaprolu on (January 22, 2013, 20:58 GMT)

haha...Dharmasala is definitely not an ideal location for cricket in this season. Not sure how BCCI picked it up this winter :( !!

However, anytime other than December/January/February, I think this stadium rocks :) !! must be truly Divine experience, playing at the doorstep of Mighty Himalayas..

Posted by Rahulbose on (January 22, 2013, 20:23 GMT)

We have always seen ODIs beings scheduled in India during extreme summer heat, this adds nice variety. The geniuses at BCCI have outdone themselves this time. The photograph of the ground is stunning, late Sep - Oct is the ideal time in Himachal.

Posted by torsha on (January 22, 2013, 19:42 GMT)

Wow if it will snow then it'll be the first time in international cricket that snow has stopped game. Stunning cricket ground in Himalayas.

Posted by bigdhonifan on (January 22, 2013, 18:38 GMT)

If India bats first and score 250 Runs, result will be India won by 100 runs....If India bats second, they have to make sure, Poms wont score more than 220 Runs.

Posted by bigdhonifan on (January 22, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

@Sehwagism @ Cpt.Meanster No way as Cricket is all about footwork and hockey is all about passing the ball.

Posted by SevereCritic on (January 22, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

Looks absolutely gorgeous. If the match gets snowed out, they can all go skiing and snow boarding and enjoy the fantastic Himalayas. What a beautiful place to play cricket. Right on heaven's doorstep.....

Posted by AnujAgarwal on (January 22, 2013, 18:11 GMT)

@Sehwagism Really??..Really??...Reeyaallyyy??..Mate did you think before posting that??

For a sport to be played with skates on, the equipments must be on the ground, ALL THE TIME..Ice hockey can be played like that as the hockey puck just has to skid through the surface..

But CRICKET??..Cricket is a game where the beauty lies in the way the ball behaves in the air, the way it bounces off the surface..the way a man comes ahead or goes back, and smacks the ball judging the bounce and movement that the ball's gonna have even before hitting it..the way a person on the ground flings himself into the air, or slides on the turf to stop the BALL from going past the ropes..

I seriously don't think you can have anything close to cricket on ice wearing skates..I also know that you know all that..THIS, MY FRIEND..is just a GENTLE REMINDER !!

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 22, 2013, 18:00 GMT)

There's no thought process when it comes to scheduling matches in India, often dates and venues are changed on a whim. Common sense dictates that Dec/Jan are not good months to hold matches in the far north, even Mohali and Delhi should be avoided, but staging a game as far north as Himachal Pradesh in Jan sums up the incompetence of the BCCI.

As a matter of fact, Dharamsala is a perfect venue to hold a ODI in say April/May/June when the rest of country is scorched from heat. Hill station venues are a perfect antidote. In Dec/Jan, games should be held in the south, we've already seen a cracking game in Kochi (Cochin).

Just look at the problems encountered in the just concluded Ranji SF held in Delhi. It took 6 days to complete the 1st inns for both teams.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 22, 2013, 17:54 GMT)

@Sehwagism: LOL... the thought simply is hilarious. Being a Canadian, I love my hockey as much as cricket but have always wondered what it would be like to play cricket with skates on. :D

Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (January 22, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

Can you imagine the West Indies fast men of the 1980s bowling at you on a frozen track? Or would you rather not imagine that?

Posted by skilebow on (January 22, 2013, 17:49 GMT)

wow it looks stunning. I hope one day I'm able to watch a game of cricket there

Posted by CricFanInd on (January 22, 2013, 17:34 GMT)

Bravo BCCI. A game of cricket in Dharmasala in JANUARY. You gotta be kidding. Dharmasala is a fantastic place, no doubt about it. But in the thick of the winter a game of cricket - it must be a really Brainy BCCI that can do such a wonderful schedule

Posted by Sehwagism on (January 22, 2013, 17:25 GMT)

If we can play hockey with skates on then why not cricket as well?

Posted by bigdhonifan on (January 22, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

Expect swing bowling due to wind, as the stadium stands are short in size. Stunning stadium in the backdrop of Himalayas at the city of Dalai Lama. ..Spiritual.. Incredible India!

Posted by vpk23 on (January 22, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

Hope it dosen't get SNOWED OUT! Get the skating shoes on mates!!!

Posted by VivSingh on (January 22, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

One of the most beautiful backdrops to a game of cricket in the entire world. The Dalai Lama temple isn't far away either, I wish I was there again. Good luck both teams and play well India!!!

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