England in India 2012-13

Giles surprised at Root's success

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January 28, 2013

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James Tredwell lured JP Duminy out of his ground, England v South Africa, 4th ODI, Lord's, September 2, 2012
James Tredwell was England's most successful bowler against India © PA Photos
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Ashley Giles, England's limited-overs coach, has admitted being taken by surprise at how quickly Joe Root has settled into the international arena. Root, the Yorkshire batsman, was one of the players to significantly enhance his reputation during the ODI series against India that finished on Sunday.

A mark of Root's swift rise is that he will now be involved in all three formats on the tour to New Zealand, having previously been expected to only be a fringe player this winter. First, he was given a Test debut in Nagpur, then he was added to the Twenty20 squad before Christmas when Jonny Bairstow was ruled out, and the same situation emerged for the one-dayers when Bairstow remained unavailable.

His success in India then prompted the selectors to remove him from the Lions tour to Australia, where he was due to be captain, and send him for the ODIs in New Zealand, while Danny Briggs' injury opened up a spot in the Twenty20 squad.

Root's standout performance came in the fourth match, when he struck 57 off 45 balls and then followed that with 31 in England's successful run chase in Dharamsala. However, he also impressed in the field and with the ball, and his offspin became a useful option for Alastair Cook.

"I didn't know he could bat as well as he has," Giles said. "He had all the ingredients to show that he could bat really well. He just looks at home and he's the sort of player with which English cricket is in good hands.

"Joe's had a fantastic first tour and has developed game on game into someone who is playing all forms of the game."

The other player to shine consistently through the one-day tour was offspinner James Tredwell, who claimed 11 wickets at 18.18 in the five matches. His success has been enough for Giles to suggest that England could consider playing both him and Graeme Swann in the same team, although the likelihood is that Tredwell will be back as the reserve for the ODIs against New Zealand next month.

"It just gives us great options - I don't see at some point why you couldn't play two offspinners in the same side," Giles said. "Tredders has been fantastic this trip."

The five-match series was also a steep learning curve for Giles in his first assignment as the limited-overs coach, having taken over from Andy Flower in the new England coaching structure. Giles now takes the squad to New Zealand for three Twenty20s and three ODIs, the latter will provide more fine-tuning ahead of the Champions Trophy, and he is feeling more at home with each match.

"Certainly I have learned a lot about this level and as the tour has gone on I have become more and more myself," he said. "It has been an enjoyable tour, playing cricket in these beautiful arenas, and while we are disappointed to lose, we have learned a lot."

England have a couple of days off after arriving in Auckland before starting their preparations for the warm-up matches ahead of the Twenty20 series. They play two matches against a New Zealand XI that will include former captain Ross Taylor, as he continues the process of returning to the national side following his self-imposed break during the South Africa tour after his controversial sacking.

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Posted by Lmaotsetung on (January 31, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

What does Sachin and Pakistan have to do in an article about a young and upcoming England cricketer?

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (January 31, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

OMG! Some cricket Pundits do not know the statics of own players!!! Saeed Ajmal got 10 wickets in India in his 4 ODI matches and he got 5 of them in the last match. (But Pakistan lost it.) He never played test in India. Saqlain Mushtaq played 3 ODIs and got 6 wikets only! In 6 innings he got 24 in test which is decent. Is it called called 'DID WELL' in India!!! Similarly, someone say that Balaji and Pathan gone thru your 'strong' batting lineup several times in the last series when India played against you. Even if there were pathetic Pakistan umpires, they 'did well' to earn it.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 30, 2013, 14:05 GMT)

@lesslowe Sachin has already retired from ODIS and he did not block pujara in ODIs (nor in tests) . So be at peace and forget sachin for a while.

Posted by lesslowe on (January 30, 2013, 3:30 GMT)

Kudos to Joe Root for performing so well in India. The youth has a very very long way to go in International cricket. The game needs more youngsters like him and Pujara. Which is why Sachin Tendulkar needs to hang up his gloves. The man has overstayed his welcome.....BY A LONG WAY. Go Mr. Sachin. Make way for a youth like Root who impresses.

Posted by RodStark on (January 29, 2013, 18:20 GMT)

I see no reason why Tredwell should not play alongside Swann in ODIs even if they are very similar. In fact, their similarity is a disadvantage in a sense because I'm sure England wish the laws allowed Swann to bowl more than the allotted ten overs. With Tredwell, you can have up to 20 Swann-like overs, leaving only 30 to be bowled by the generally less talented seamers.

Posted by Jay.Raj on (January 29, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

1. Cook 2. pietersen 3. Bell 4. Morgan 5. Root 6. Patel 7. Prior 8. Tredwell 9. Broad 10. Finn 11. Anderson 12th man. Swann FOR ODI!!!!!!!

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (January 29, 2013, 16:48 GMT)

His domestic stats aren't great but he is sure to improve the numbers & go all the way. Has a neat temperament and seemed responsible enough in the middle. England will do well to give him as many chances as he can get.

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 29, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

Vaughan is now advocating promoting Root to open in the test series v New Zealand in preparation for the summer Ashes, so Bairstow can return at six. Good call in the long term for England, but not Yorkshire. Compton may start the next series as the opener but without a ton in the first two tests he may need to make way for Joe to continue his progress to the opening slot where his temperament and technique will be a perfect foil for Cook for years to come.

Posted by Charlie101 on (January 29, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

@landl47 Do you not think that KP should bowl more in all forms of the game ??He gives it a tweak and he has a number of test wickets ( Headingly against SA ). I believe he started his career as a bowler before concentrating on batting. Yuvraj bowls very well for India in ODIs and T20s as we know to our cost and KP is almost good a bowler as Yuvraj ( put in " almost " so we are saved 300 Indian posts about how marvelous Yuvi is )

Posted by gbqdgj on (January 29, 2013, 13:27 GMT)

@land47...so Jonathan Trott & KP are unable to bowl? Really? Think you may need to have a look at their stats...both bowl...not brilliantly, but well enough to be 6th option. That said, I totally agree about Dernbach that he just doesn't cut it at International level and for some reason, the same can be said for Kieswetter these days too. I think we looked a far better outfit in the 5th one dayer, drop Patel, Woakes and Tredwell for Trott, Anderson and Swann (I'm sort of OK with Buttler as keeper though think Prior would be more consistent both keeping and at 6/7 batting and actually I think they would be a real handful for everyone.

Posted by SDHM on (January 29, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

@scritty - what format are you mentioning Vince for? He's nowhere near the Test match side and won't be for a while, and you'd think he's competing for the same spot as Hales in the limited overs sides. Certainly talented, but needs to produce more consistently.

Posted by scritty on (January 29, 2013, 12:38 GMT)

England have a load of great your (and mostly quite small) batters coming through. They will be regretting playing Keiswetter for those ODI's. He was pretty dreadful and retained for most of the series. With Hales, Root, Taylor and Buttler, England have found enough batting talent in the last 16 months to last a generation, at least batting wise. Root seems a superb batsman, and having seen him for a while he has always been outstanding in all forms. No surprises there. What about James Vince of Hampshire? I think he should be the next "cab off the rank". I feel a little sorry for Compton, he deserves a go, but these other younger guys just seem to have so much more "spark" about them. I hope we have seen the end of "wide long hop" Dernbach and "Swish outside off" Keiswetter. We have quality home grown players coming out of our ears and no need to resort to these inconsistent journeymen

Posted by countjimmoriarty on (January 29, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

@RandyOZ, ignoring your usual tiresome sarcasm, I for one am not remotely surprised. But then I've been watching him for Yoirkshire for the last couple of years. It was clear from day one that Joe was going all the way.

Posted by RandyOZ on (January 29, 2013, 11:09 GMT)

Why wouldn't he be surprised, we all are. It's the first time in the better part of a decade that England has actually produced a seemingly decent English player. The last before him was probably Cook or Jimmy.

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (January 29, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

Jo Root indeed did well but one has to admire how good James Treadwell did. Amazing stuff! 11 wickets at average of 18 is wonderful playing in India on their home ground and in front of some rather poor umpiring by Indian umpires. India is a tough tough place for spinners and with the exception of Saeed Ajmal and Saqlain Mushtaq there is hardly any other spinners who have done well. Treadwell not only got wickets but he got India's best batsmen out on regular basis,e.g Yuvraj was clueless.Treadwell also blew the myth that England has no quality spinners and that Indians play spin well as no batsmen could dominate him.Treadwell also totall outshone Indian spinners.English batsmen are still poor against spin and gave wickets to Jaedja who is a mediocre bowler at best against quality spin playing teams such as SL and Pak but England gave him wickets like they did to Yuvraj in T20's...Despite all that Treadwell surpassed all expectations and based on his performance he was a man of series!

Posted by WeeBee on (January 29, 2013, 10:04 GMT)

Either Giles does not watch his players in nets or Roots does not go in nets for practice. I don't find any reason to surprise.

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (January 29, 2013, 5:57 GMT)

Pretty formidable line up you english have espcially when your up and comers are performing so well. Always love it when england tour the cricket is always competitive more so in the shorter forms and the barmy army are always good banter should be a fantastic tour looking foward to seeing these new guys

Posted by JustIPL on (January 29, 2013, 3:05 GMT)

Root has done well in the context that it was in India where conditions are difficult for englishmen but it is also a fact that he faced a very oridinary bowling lineup which he might not get elsewhere. Still he is a very good find and in future can come back to India with more achievement.

Posted by maddy20 on (January 29, 2013, 2:06 GMT)

Joe root has a flawless temparment and technique. He has often batted in the series when 4 or 5 wickets are down, but did not get intimidated by the situation or the noisy crowd. Giles has nothing to be surprised about here. It will be a great shame if they do not use him in tests. Age is on his side, and he will go on to become a great player if he is groomed well.

Posted by Jonathan_E on (January 29, 2013, 1:43 GMT)

Dernbach should never have been in the team in the first place. Bresnan, well though he bowled in the last game, should probably have been dropped a while back (but, like Dernbach, benefited from selection stability even when not really merited.)

Given that Anderson and Broad weren't available, and assuming that neither was Chris Tremlett, Onions must be wondering just exactly what he did wrong...

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 1:27 GMT)

James Tredwell is a hugely underrated spinner. Better than any spinner playing for India at the moment. Far better than Ashwin. Some one suggested that Swann playing test cricket alone, and Tredwell being used in the shorter formats is good for the team and workload of the respective players. I fully concur.

Posted by Chesty-la-roux on (January 29, 2013, 1:21 GMT)

Why is Giles surprised? I would have thought the expectation is that any player who is picked to represent his country will be successful, if his success comes as a 'surprise' why was he picked in the first place? What was the thinking at the selection meeting, "How about young Root?" "Oh i don't think he's any good, but lets give him a run, he might surprise us" Perhaps if the ECB and their coaching staff started concentrating on picking the best players, rather than pandering to a clique of senior bowlers, england might start coming ahead. As things stand english cricket is going in reverse. Is Giles also 'surprised' by the consistent failures of kieswetter, dernbach, broad, patel etc, or does he really think that is the best the country has to offer? English cricket needs a new broom to sweep clean the detritus. I thought giles might bring that, but until he starts showing faith and absolute trust in new and real talent it will be business as usual. The business of failure.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (January 28, 2013, 23:12 GMT)

Cracking player is Joe Root, he'll go a long way, and has the technique, skill and mentality to do either of opening the batting or batting down the order.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (January 28, 2013, 22:29 GMT)

Joe Root's been in the Lions setup for quite a while now and though he's been solid, has never set the world on fire on the many Lions tours he's been involved in. Even his county season is pale compared to Compton's and Yorkshire was in Div2 last year. So to say this surpised many of us is an understatement. Most fans and experts alike felt he was not ready as we all know it's quite a jump from county cricket to the international scene. He's had a good start just like his county mate Bairstow. They are the future of Eng once the likes of KP, Bell, Trott retires or they might even force their way in. They won't be rushed and will be given ample time to succeed. Finally the batting talent is starting to show when most of us were scratching our head as to who would replace Strauss when he retires. The wk position line is a mile long and Prior has a few more good years in him. We have a good pool of seamers and suddenly Eng is the king of spin (Swann, Monty, Treadwell).

Posted by SyedAreYouDumb on (January 28, 2013, 21:40 GMT)

Joe root is a quality player hope he continues. I always thought James Tredwell was an overrated and rubbish player but he has performed well! Especially against the 'masters' of batting against spin (India)

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 28, 2013, 21:39 GMT)

Both Joe Root & J Tredwell have shown that they have the skills & even more importantly, the temperament to step up. It is down to Eng's management policy that both must have been ressured that they would get a fair crack of the whip - i.e. once selected they could look forward to an extended run in the team. This is a confidence-inducing measure that was singularly absent before central contracts came in, when every announcement of the upcoming team was a matter for an extraordinary amount of speculation. The down-side of this consistency policy is evidenced by Dernbach's fall from favour. It was patently obvious to all who were watching that he was a busted flush after the 3rd ODI, yet he was given his chance to redeem himself in the next game - a poison-chalice opportunity that served only to emphasize his complete loss of confidence. It's difficult enough to get in the team, but once picked there has to be an overwhelming case to be dropped & once rejected the way back is long.

Posted by perl57 on (January 28, 2013, 21:34 GMT)

If there can be named one player who made it a 3-2 instead of 5-0 it is James Tredwell. So he shoould be groomed by England. Especially against the mighty Subcontinent players in ODIs. Even Swann would not be such a hit.

Posted by subbass on (January 28, 2013, 21:33 GMT)

@Triplecenturion - Tredwell is a useful lower order batsman(3 first class hundreds a best of 88 in list A cricket with 4 50's and a best of 34* in 'hit and giggle') and has a safe pair of hands at slip/elsewhere in the field. I'm sure you will agree that this is indicative of a useful lower order batter. As for Root I think most of us have been surprised at how he has taken to Internatioonal cricket. That said he was facing a fairly ordinary bowling attack. Be interesting to see how he does against the likes of Pakistan, SA and Austrlia(providing they can get their good seamers on the park)

Posted by bumsonseats on (January 28, 2013, 19:29 GMT)

RolandC not sure that monty has been slighted, him and swann deserve equal recognition for the great job they did. i am just pleased that we have 3 good spinners any of which if conditions dictate can do the job in test cricket.just think of the country that has nothing in the cupboard.

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 28, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

I am surprised that Giles is surprised at Root because I expect most county coaches to be more aware of emerging talent, especially those involved as an Englsnd selector. Joe is a quick learner, a natural talent and an old head on young shoulders. It's more of a surprise to me that the likes of Giles seem overly keen on picking others who have less talent, mental strength and variety to their game yet they persevere with them. Perhaps a South African place of birth gives some England players a longer run than their performances suggest. If Tredwell is to be a serious test match player then we would need to play three spinners with Panesar and Swann ahead of him. This would only ever happen overseas in the subcontinent as we never play two spinners at home unless very exceptional circumstances. Tredwell is miles behind the other two options and does not even have strong batting to give him an edge in another department.

Posted by realfan on (January 28, 2013, 18:54 GMT)

i am particularly impressed with joe root.... he did very well in 1 test and in 1 odi series against india... i remember some comentator mentioning he is the future captain of england team..... i guess they are right....he showed patience and commitment.... and coming to tredwell ...he is typical text book of offspin.... he plays to his strength and limitations..... i good thing isaw in him is he is great game thinker.... he plays according to the situation.... although with swann he wont be able to cement his place in england side... i hope he pays in future for england....

Posted by RolandC on (January 28, 2013, 18:10 GMT)

Curious how Panesar gets overlooked. He was the most effective spinner in India . . .

Posted by Hattrick_Capes on (January 28, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

James Tredwell could be our one-day spinner. Might lighten the load on Swann's perma-niggle

Posted by bumsonseats on (January 28, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

great to see a young guy doing well against seasoned professionals, shows the CC leagues is producing him and others and as a redrose supporter thats hard to say. tredwell even at 30, more than capable and at the moment 3th/4th in line for a place in the test side. if he was an aussie he would have been 1st choice after warnes retirement.

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