India v New Zealand, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 4th day

Disappointing to lose, but plenty of positives - Hesson

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September 4, 2012

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Doug Bracewell celebrates the wicket of Sachin Tendulkar, India v New Zealand, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 2nd day, September 1, 2012
Mike Hesson: "We took on some players with fearful records" © AFP
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New Zealand coach Mike Hesson has said his side should be proud of the fact that they managed to put pressure on India, despite losing an evenly matched Bangalore Test by five wickets. After losing the first Test in Hyderabad by an innings, they fancied their chances of squaring the series in Bangalore by setting a target of 261. India stuttered, but got over the line on the fourth day after being reduced to 166 for 5.

"I think we have made huge progress in this Test. The score we operated with in the first innings (365) was more than competitive," Hesson said. "To get a first-innings lead against a quality Indian side showed that we'd made some improvements there. In the second innings the conditions were a bit tougher, we made a couple of errors at crucial times, we also could have fallen over but we didn't. We took on some players with fearful records.

"In the end, we set them a challenging a total that gave our bowlers a real chance. Sure we would have wanted more (runs). We still have to keep that positive mindset."

The defeat was New Zealand's fourth in as many Tests since the tour of the West Indies in July-August. New Zealand are at No.8 in the ICC Test rankings, above Bangladesh. Hesson admitted, thoughk that the players were disappointed they couldn't close out the game.

"We are ranked where we are for a reason, but I thought there were good signs in all areas of the game in Bangalore," Hesson said. "No one likes to lose and the dressing room was quite gutted because we put a top side under pressure, which many sides haven't been able to do in India in a long time. To put ourselves into that position and not get over the line was frustrating.

"The players are extremely hard on themselves, individually and collectively. Some talk about the inadequacies in other players to try and help them. We've got a good leadership group that's learning to lead. We're trying to get the guys to evolve so they can challenge each other and start to ask tough questions."

New Zealand left out their most experienced seamer, Chris Martin, for Tim Southee, whose 7 for 64 were the best figures for a New Zealand bowler in India. Southee's efforts helped New Zealand gain a slender first-innings lead of 12. Hesson said leaving out Martin was a "tough call" but insisted that he was definitely in the mix for future selection.

"We thought Chris bowled well in Hyderabad but we thought Tim was ready to go. He had been bowling beautifully and someone had to miss out. Chris has a lot of experience and helps pull the whole bowling group together."

Hesson said the side had a lot to learn in terms of decision making out in the middle, especially in Hyderabad, where New Zealand failed to pass 200 in both innings.

"We lost a number of wickets in the first Test because we were indecisive, whether it be to play, or leave, to push for a single or to attack. If you make the wrong decision and commit to it sometimes you can get out of trouble. We tried to ensure we didn't make those mistakes from Hyderabad in this Test."

Hesson said the players had done their best to simulate match conditions at the nets. "We have competitive nets. We create an environment in our net situation where the guys are under pressure. Very difficult of course to replicate 40,000 screaming Indians."

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Posted by Sombrehombre on (September 7, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

NZ have been trundling along in the wilderness for a good five years or so now, with little sign of improvement. Pretty much since the untimely and ludicrous demise of Astle and Fleming, coupled with the injury ravaged end of Cairns not to mention the injuries and subsequent exile of Bond. NZ just cannot afford to lose it rare top stars and that is exactly what happened leaving a young under strength side brutally exposed to the harsh world of test cricket. Particularly disappointing when you see so many of the rival contemporaries of that generation playing well into their late 30s - McGrath, Hayden, Ponting from Aus.. Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxmen from India… Unfortunate but maybe enough time has gone by to heal over those scars and enough young talent coming through to build a new legacy.

Posted by   on (September 6, 2012, 21:51 GMT)

new zealand needs more quality batsman,,batting is their weakest point for ages...

Posted by 6foot6 on (September 6, 2012, 18:58 GMT)

I reckon we should be giving the Black Caps some credit. RyderI agree would be an asset in our current batting line up. I see NZ batsman in the 2nd test were given out LBW 8 times (20 wickets- 40% of total dismissals). Indian batsman were given out LBW 2 times (15 wickets- 13% of total dismissals). In NZ's 1st innings Bracewell was run out which was quite unlucky. Williamson's LBW dismissal was fairly dubious and McCullum can count himself unlucky too I reckon. In the Indian 1st and 2nd innings the umpire's didn't make any questionable decisions regarding wicket taking deliveries. In NZ's 2nd innings Patel was given out when the ball clearly didn't hit his bat. Under DRS the Black Cap's would've surely fared much better so I wouldn't write them off just yet. Do some analysis!!! I'm not saying we would've necessarily won under DRS but it might've come down to the wire.

Posted by cricketcritic on (September 6, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

Sad, sad, sad. Did the coach really say that? All due respect to India, they're hard to beat at home, but are they really a top side? I'm not so sure. NZ played better but India won by FIVE wickets in a canter in the end. NZ had the best of the conditions and threw wickets away at crucial times. They are miles away

Posted by mikriket on (September 6, 2012, 5:18 GMT)

Hesson, get real. The Indian tour , so far, is a catastrofy and apart from some promise showed by the fast bowles there is nothing positive. The batting is hopelessly sub-standard.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (September 5, 2012, 23:27 GMT)

Not completely agreeing with Hesson here BUT the Kiwis did put India under a lot of pressure in the second test at Bangalore. Not to mention, some of the ways our batsmen found ways to get themselves out too; especially Sir Suresh Raina. Having said that, NZ have MILES to go before they are really a competitive test side. However, they have a good set of fast bowlers in Southee, Boult, Martin and Bracewell. In helpful conditions, these guys can put mightier teams than India under a lot of pressure. But it's their insipid batting that worries a lot of their supporters and rightly so. Brendon McCullum is UNFIT to play for NZ and needs to be dropped. Ross Taylor has legit weaknesses against spin bowling, Daniel Flynn looks average and Kane Williamson is promising a lot but letting down. So the batting is their main issue. Unless a team can consistently post 350-400 in test cricket, they can't win many games no matter how good their bowling attack is.

Posted by thenoostar on (September 5, 2012, 23:20 GMT)

@Jaggadaaku i think Wrights success was due to staying out of the way and letting Ganguly run the show. Alright when you have the Indian team, not so great when you have the New Zealand Team.

@2nd_slip Nice stir! The same could have been said about the Indian team in Australia and England.

There were positives out of the Tests! Patel turning the ball, Guptill attacking instead of blocking, Southee starting to come good. Franklin looking really good as test batsman. He just needs a few more games but didnt look troubled on turning tracks until he got himself out. Van Wyk looked good when he attacked with the bat and must now keep his place ahead of BJ. Boult could have picked up a couple more wickets with some luck and bowled quite briskly.

Posted by Bruisers on (September 5, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

So much negativity in their minds. Pleased with this performance? Are you a team like Scotland or Bangladesh to be talking like this??

Posted by shortsillypoint on (September 5, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

Agree with KiwiJake - out of the NZ winter(when it was India's turn to tour) with no warm up games on a dusty turner after losing the toss and no one is surprised at the result. Better conditions in the 2nd test, winning the toss and a better result - all predictable. For those complaining about the also ran NZ team - think on 4 m pop and then the competition from other sports. Ask yourself how did India go at the Olympics - NZ out-performed all nations per capita besides Bolt's country! NZ even beats India in hockey these days. NZ is an huge out performer in world sports - cricket is just another game! So pack away your hubris.

Posted by serious-am-i on (September 5, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

@icfa: There are lots of differences between SL and NZ. NZ is not a cricket crazy nation like SL is. For Kiwis its Rugby, that's their craze at where as for SL their craze is at the sport of cricket. So, I guess it would be better if you choose wiser terms when comparing again.

Posted by cricketlover111 on (September 5, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

What a great watch the second test was. Not much between the two teams. NZ best batsman Ryder still to return, suspect he would have made a difference at No.5. NZ still does not get enought tough consistent test cricket and will continue to struggle without this. The first test may have more of a spectacle without constant poor umpiring decisions against NZ. Improved in the second test enought to make it a competition.

Posted by   on (September 5, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

This is what we have to learn from other teams that is not letting their team and player down. Even after 2-0 defeat and one with an innings defeat the Newzeland team management did not let their players down. All the indian cricketers especially Bedi, Kapil Dev and other players have learn from this. I am for sure tht only Gavaskar, Ravi sastry and shiv are some of the players who support indian team and all others always expect win after win which is not possible in cricket. Learn from the other teams to support our team india even if they loose.

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (September 5, 2012, 10:24 GMT)

Still not convinced that the likes of newzealand and bagladesh should be playing test cricket...

Posted by crick_sucks on (September 5, 2012, 9:59 GMT)

I dont understand the mentality of the black caps. How can you be content with just a fight. For how long will you keep coming up with excuses that we are a small nation with limited resources. To me there is no diff b/w NZ and SL. But SL fight with a intention to win. Talent wise I see NZ ahead of SL especially in bowling. NZ batting is on par with SL. Yet you keep pulling short of the mark time and again. How many semifinals have NZ reached in WC events? And how many final/win? The moment they are in semis everyone starts the phrase"they are punching above their weight"...."fiesty unit"...etc and you know what happens next. You just need to get the mental block away that you are a below par team.

Posted by veerakannadiga on (September 5, 2012, 7:24 GMT)

India have won, but NZ have proved that they are no pushovers. One has to respect this NZ outfit. They lost fighting. Looking back, I feel, we were under more pressure because we were expected to win 2-0 against NZ , in home conditions. Good that we pulled through. NZ might be ranked 8th at present, but if they keep performing like they did in Bengalooru, they will move upwards in the ranking swiftly.

Posted by Jaggadaaku on (September 5, 2012, 5:53 GMT)

NZ should give a chance to their junior(U19) players. NZ also must drop Brandon McCullum for their own sake. McCullum never become a test batsman like India's Raina and Yuvraj. NZ also must hire a specialist as a coach. Mike Hesson is a failed coach. Hesson couldn't even improve the domestic level team as Otago, nor Kenya. Last time, John Write has done a better job in India after becoming India's coach, so why don't NZ give a chance to their own?

Posted by Bogelking on (September 5, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Well, it was from a good position to wrap the match in their favor, that New Zealand surrendered it to India. Even the home team was a bit weary, not knowing how to tackle some fierce bowling from Bracewell and Boult, complimented with the spin of a menacingly growing Patel. But if it was not for Dhoni and Kohli, who showed the mettle to come out of this dire condition, the Kiwis could have easily squared the series. But it is too early to criticise the new bunch of Black Cap players, for there is enough promising show coming from the youngsters, especially Williamson, Boult, Bracewell etc.. The tremendous fight back that they showed against the home team in the second test contrary to that of Uppal, is a warning for some tough performance coming from the opposition in the forthcoming T20. It will be well looked how the Indian side would respond in the shorter format(T20), provided the reason that we do not have a good record against them. Let us wait and see.

Posted by chokkashokka on (September 5, 2012, 4:23 GMT)

Henson should run for office - his team gets walloped in conditions more suitable to his players than the home team and they could not capitalize against a team in transition. Best chance these guys ever had - only way is up for India.

Posted by Kiwi-Jake on (September 5, 2012, 3:45 GMT)

It's not just a case of competing with India, but competing with India in Indian conditions. I'm under the belief that this NZ side would beat this current Indian side in NZ, but India in India is always a tough ask for any side. You cannot find a more stark contrast between the playing conditions between India and NZ. Where India is hot, dry, spinner-friendly - NZ is cold,grassy and seamer-friendly. So for NZ to come out of their winter and compete against a side that still has some extreme talents in it, says a lot more for the team than the results do. That being said, this is a super young NZ side who SHOULDN'T be winning too many matches yet: Southee, Boult, Williamson, Guptill and Bracewell won't peak for another 5-8 years, so look out for that in the future. There are also 4 extreme U-19 talents coming up for NZ (Young, Sodhi (LEGSPINNER), Duffy & O'Donnell/O'Connell) so I'm actually optimistic for this NZ side's future no matter what the critics say.

Posted by   on (September 5, 2012, 3:24 GMT)

They are missing Vettory for sure.

Posted by Erebus26 on (September 5, 2012, 2:23 GMT)

I was disappointed a little with NZ's overall display in this series. Enough of this nonsense of plucky little NZ 'battling' and 'competing' - they should've done better. Hesson says the players were 'hard on themselves' and so they should be imo. I've seen NZ sides not much better than this one compete better with Indian sides better than Dhoni's current crop. The main let down was the batting - technique and temperament was sorely lacking especially in regards to shot selection. The bowling unit performed admirably though - Bracewell and Boult continue to show potential whilst Southee finally delivered when it mattered most. Jeetan Patel also impressed in place of Vettori, showing that he's benefited from playing some county cricket in England. Going forward NZ have just got to be more streetwise, otherwise I just don't see Ross Taylor getting any success as captain in the next year or so.

Posted by Lermy on (September 5, 2012, 1:49 GMT)

Sometimes I think NZ shouldn't even bother turning up, but then how would we know how useless we are! And if you play enough, just occasionally you will catch a good side having a bad day and beat them, e.g. Hobart last year!

Posted by Min2000 on (September 5, 2012, 1:49 GMT)

From a NZL perspective, trust me we aren't celebrating a loss, but we are trying to develop this young side and there are positives to be taken out of this match -- noteably the performance of the 3 young seamers and Ross Taylor's terrific ton. Nice to see Jimmy Franklin back in the XI - he adds experience and balance to our line-up.

Posted by bluefunk on (September 5, 2012, 1:37 GMT)

Kane Williamson needs to convert his starts into big scores more often... am sure that will happen as his temperament improves with experience. Along with Virat Kohli, Darren Bravo, Jonny Bairstow and Nasir Jamshed, he's one of the best young batsmen in world cricket at the moment. Add his leadership skills to the clearly evident batting talent, and you have someone who's going to serve the Black Caps well for a long time to come.

Posted by maddy20 on (September 5, 2012, 0:57 GMT)

@Al Minidodo Warming Yes we all watched what a top side England was when they lost to Pak and then to SA crashing to the worst defeat in the history of cricket. We will watch more of their "Top Quality cricket" When they are trounced by India later this year.

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (September 4, 2012, 23:45 GMT)

I think the Kiwis will get better and better in their next games. So India better watch out! There is somthing about the kiwi attitude of on-the-job-learning that many in Team India will do well to emulate. I am thinking Raina should be dropped. And Tendulkar, old soldiers are always remembered for their great feats - they just have to know when to stop battling against mother nature.

Posted by cheesemethod on (September 4, 2012, 22:17 GMT)

wow a lot of negativity. India being a top placed side or not the fact is that player to player, India have a better team. Some of those top order averages they have are only what NZ batsmen could only dream of. Just about all games in sports are about win or lose, its black and white. Test matches are played in sessions over 5 days, sure winning is the goal but when you win or equal a superior side in sessions you CAN take positives away from it. Lets not forget the obvious. India - 1 billion people in a cricket crazed country. NZ - 4 million people in a rugby crazed country with very average weather. NZ as always will punch above their weight and they deserve to get a pat on the back for this one.

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

Sourav619 At the same age as Boult and southee Stuart Broad was rolling over Australia at the Oval to win the ashes together with scoring good runs. Really silly comparison!!!!!!

Ps when he was 1 year older he scored 170 in a test match. would you like me to stop now?

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 21:38 GMT)

NZ coach must have been watching the Eng/SA series....

Posted by Rash_inswinger on (September 4, 2012, 20:39 GMT)

Great fightback by the Kiwis and surely they'll give IND a run for their money in the t20's, something which the Blackcaps have developed in the past and should be proud of is their fielding..super commitment in all the formats.. unarguably one of the finest fielding side in International cricket today.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (September 4, 2012, 20:10 GMT)

Heading is misleading - India is not a top side but diplomacy dictates that the coach not insult NZ hosts. I was pleasantly surprised by NZ efforts and durig the first test their bowlers never gave up. Their batsmen and absence of the DRS let them down in the 1st test and the latter in the 2nd test. If the NZ bowlers can stay fit I'll follow their progress with interest.

Posted by BackfootNossyfan on (September 4, 2012, 20:05 GMT)

It's been a long time since I've watched a NZ test match and been proud, put it that way. All of the team showed signs at one time or another. And for those who will undoubtably say Flynn should be dropped, I disagree - he was good at making partnerships. Well done Tim Southee and Ross Taylor for getting on the honours board this match. NZ did well.

Posted by slippingsillypoint on (September 4, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

We may have been more competitive if the umpiring had of been a slightly higher standard!

Posted by pawaramol22 on (September 4, 2012, 18:47 GMT)

It wasn't the top Indian side you lost to... accept that fat that you lost and move on..

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 17:49 GMT)

new zealand sorely missed ryder at the top there, along with vettori whos a quality bat as well as bowler. it would have been a competitive series with both of them being fit.

Posted by sourav619 on (September 4, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

well we should not be looking at the result too much,outcome was expected like this before the start of the series.I think kiwis have a good future i really like the bowling of trio boult bracewell and southee.If they are guided properly by the likes of bond and cairns then will definitely be a world threat atleast in green tracks of nz and also when they will tour eng,aus and sa.Atleast they are lot better than broad and anderson during their early careers.

Posted by bigdhonifan on (September 4, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

Only reason for India troubled in Bangalore because of the pitch. No turn, But Seaming and bouncing like pitches in England.

Posted by WC96QF on (September 4, 2012, 16:53 GMT)

It was very heartening to see the Kiwi performance in the second test. This is the kind of performance that we have come to expect from New Zealand over the years : give a tough fight, no matter who and where the opposition is. They have just reputation for 'punching above their weight' !! Hope they build on this and become a competitive test side. Cricket can use a strong NZ test team.

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 16:31 GMT)

well played Kiwis, keep it up!!

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

NZ would do better to think of this tour as disaster, the Indian team is playing like a No.7 ranked team(skill and attitude wise). On air NZ commentators were very happy with bowling performance but still NZ bowlers are not that good simply because they did not bowl at the weakness of Indian players that much. J. patel looked good in last innings but he has to play more to gain experience otherwise he would prove useless for every first innings against top 5 ranked teams. Batsman as we know are talented but hardly anyone is ready to apply themselves for a long term basis. Brendam McCulum always frustrates me a lot since he has got tremendous skill. Catching has to be improved and the catching standards from NZ were a black spot on their tradition of excellent fielding. Pitches were not that different from last time but this time NZ were already deflated from WI tour and may thus the performance. I don't know why NZ is not able to produce a good fast bowler like Australians do.....

Posted by Romenevans on (September 4, 2012, 16:12 GMT)

India a top side? ROFL that is new to me. They are Mediocre TEST side and the BEST T20 and ODI side. Sorry, but Not Tests!

Posted by VJGS on (September 4, 2012, 15:52 GMT)

Which side is he talking about? I checked NZ most recent matches and they have not played any top team.

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (September 4, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

Coach, no doubt NZ put on a brave face and fought until last minute. It's unfortunate most of the bad decisions went against you guys, especially so many LBW's and I, being an Indian, want DRS to implemented for a fair and just game. Not taking anything from NZ, but to call this Indian side a top or a quality side is a bit of stretch as I don't think a side that got whitewashed 8-0 is a top test match side. Further most of the batsmen in this present Indian team cannot handle pace and bounce and Southee showed that by taking 7 wickets due to some brillaint fast bowling exhibition. I believe NZ has good pace attack in Southee, Boult, and Bracwell. All NZ need is a good top order batsmen along with Guptil and a quality spiiner like Vettori and they will be a force to reckon with.

Posted by harmske on (September 4, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

@foursandsixes - hard not to agree with you. this black caps team has been going backwards for sometime now - mainly due to our batting. we've introduced a whole host of batsman to the international stage, with hopes that more than a few would make their mark - marhsall, how & flynn have had ample opportunities without delivering and to a lesser extent guptill and mccullum, who haven't delivered anywhere close to what they are capable of. finding genuine batting talent is a huge issue, and when genuine talent if eventually found consistency problems take over. so the team keeps doing the best it can with a good-ish bowling attack, and an amalgam of average batsman and really good batsman who are incredibly inconsistent. no wonder we only win 1 out of every 7-8 tests...

Posted by wecaz on (September 4, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

Mr. Hesson, I have a high regard for NZ team. NZ always had many good players in all the times. I still remember NZ being a top team in 91/92.

You can bounce back, but it deeply hurts when you show satisfaction at being low level and behave like a low team.

Come on, show us your class..

Vikas India

Posted by   on (September 4, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

Can't understand omission of Chris Martin. Don't they know he can bowl too?

Posted by foursandsixes on (September 4, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

India is not a top side any longer, and fearful records are an indication of past performance. NZ should not kid themselves - they were up against a poor to mediocre performance by India and still lost. The Hyd pitch is a true indication of the gap Kiwis have to address (in the subcontinent). Bangalore assisted seamers, so exposed the frail Indian batting "greats" whose time is past. NZ hasn't really made any progress from Hyd to Bangalore. My guess is if they go back to Hyd and play one more match there, they will lose by an innings again (or for that matter in SL, Bangladesh, or Pak also).

Posted by kc69 on (September 4, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Well played Kiwi's it was a loss but you really have improved compared to last test.Hope to see such competetive cricket from Kiwi team in future.

Posted by amclean on (September 4, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

We showed a lot of spirit in the second Test, which is a good sign for the Taylor-Hesson combination. Recalling Franklin was an excellent start by Hesson after the previous selection panel dropped him for the Tests in the West Indies. Our batting is still light though and Hesson must make the return of Jesse Ryder his priority for the Tests in Sri Lanka in November.

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