India v Pakistan, 1st T20, Bangalore

Hafeez happy with Ashwin omission

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December 25, 2012

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Mohammad Hafeez targets the deep-midwicket boundary, India v Pakistan, 1st T20, Bangalore, December 25, 2012
Mohammad Hafeez: "Our plan was that if we play out the new ball, then their spinners are not world-class" © BCCI
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Mohammad Hafeez has suggested that the decision to leave out R Ashwin, India's leading limited-overs spinner, for the first Twenty20 helped Pakistan. India opted to go in with left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja ahead of Ashwin for the match in Bangalore, which Pakistan won by five wickets.

"This is the combination, they knew very well what they (wanted), Ashwin was not there in this team," Hafeez said. "So our plan was that if we play out the new ball, then their spinners are not world-class; I know Yuvraj is in great form, but when you don't have a world-class spinner then we can dominate."

Jadeja bowled 2.4 overs, including the final one of the game, and was taken for 29 runs, and he contributed only two runs with the bat. "It was a surprise for us that they didn't play [Ashwin], at the end we are happy that we won the game."

Dhoni, though, defended the decision saying Ashwin was more of a threat with the new ball. "Ashwin has been one of our main bowlers, he had to bowl in the first six overs a lot," Dhoni said. "Once we had three seamers, we wanted to give Jadeja a chance also, and once the field has opened up in the last two games Ashwin has also gone for runs, [though] he has bowled beautifully in the first six overs."

Only one of Pakistan's top seven batsmen was a left-hander, another reason Dhoni provided for the decision to leave out the offspinner Ashwin. "They had lots of right-hand batsmen, and if we needed an offspinner, we had Rohit Sharma and Suresh Raina. If we needed an option of a left-arm spinner in case Yuvi had a bad day, we wouldn't have any option in the XI [if Jadeja was left out]."

This was only the second Twenty20 match Ashwin has missed since his debut against Zimbabwe in 2010; the other one was the meaningless fixture against England in the World Twenty20. Ashwin himself was philosophical about his omission: "Even Fernando Torres has to sit out for Chelsea."

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Posted by Jaggadaaku on (December 28, 2012, 10:45 GMT)

Almost each time, Ashwin makes more runs than at-least one of the specialize Indian batsmen, and definitely makes more and faster runs than the Captain-Mr. Cold. If India don't consider him as a bowler, Ashwin plays a part of specialize batsman pretty better than most specialize batsmen. I guess, Indian captain has to quit playing cricket for a while, and analyze what to do just watching. Until now, I always seen that the Indian captain never perform good, they all are in the team because they are captains, but when Mr. Cold became a captain, my impression of Indian captain has changed, but now Mr. Cold showing that he is just like other captains. But whatever happens, our Mr. cold always has excuses. Entire team including himself perform very very poor, but Mr. Cold always finds some positives to defend his boys and his own decisions, and the media also helps him. Otherwise India have 27 local team, but they still use almost same players in T20 who also play tests and ODIs.

Posted by jimbond on (December 28, 2012, 5:17 GMT)

Hafeez may not be aware of the rubbish that Ashwin has been serving in recent times. On the other hand he may be aware and this would merely be a mind game. Either way, the problem was not lack of specialist bowlers, the problem for India was lack of good bowlers. Ishant Sharma and Dinda are useless on most tracks. Spinners on this kinds of tracks are a gamble- especially against sides that are comfortable against spin. India lost because Ishant sharma and Dinda were unable to sustain the pressure that Kumar had brought on, and Jadeja bowled a couple of very ordinary overs. But yes, possibly against Pakistan, Ashwin would have been a better bet than Jadeja.

Posted by PakoP on (December 27, 2012, 20:09 GMT)

only 3 specialist bowlers --- Hard to win an International game with this combo. Hafeez is spot on and 100% right but rather than acknowledging their own mistake Dhoni and Co are defending their decision ... weird

Posted by Anandsadvice on (December 27, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

Wining stratergy

Dhoni needs to be aggressive and careful as per situation. Up the order will do a good for Dhoni I think Yuvi should come after Dhoni in the batting line up.

We need more aggression from India team. Hold one end and fire from the other end stratergy should be used. Play according to situation batsmen, exactly how Pakistan did at the right moment of the match.

Young guns Virat, Raina and Rohit should plan to rotate the strike first before going for their shots. I think with pakistan bowling attack it is better to play straight first and get the feel of the ball on bat before any shots accross the line. Speed up the tempo once you get going again one of the batsmen should hold one end. Cannot play strokes from both ends it is risky.

I think we have a great batting attack fellows play clever cricket and not rush of blood shots. And bowlers need to stick to good line and lenth for the most part do not try too many variations good luck and have a great matc

Posted by Anandsadvice on (December 27, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

I think India bowled much better this time except ofcourse the last over should have been pace and not spin one mistake cost us the match. One more problem was the batting collapse I think we have enough batsmen with experience to know how to play according to situation batsmen need to be blamed for this defeat and not the bowlers batsmen including Dhoni need to pull up their socks and play better cricket. It is easy to say as per dhoni but mistakes cannot be repeated again and again. Pakistan has a good bowling attack Indian batsmen should know that and after a good start given they did not capitalize on that we need to focus on grabbing opportunities that come our way.

We also need more bowlers like kumar who can take wickets in this fashion. Way to go kumar, keep hitting the right area's and give tips to the seniour bowlers as well no harm in learning from the junior's Dindi and Ishant. Remember dot balls and accuracy are the key to get the wickets.

Posted by shrastogi on (December 27, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

India needs to quickly asses the pitch and set a target if they bat first. Didnt see the Indian innings in the first match but the collapse was embarrassing as it appears that batsmen were looking for bigger target. Pakistan strength is bowling which is India's weakness so batters would have to lift themselves up. Pakistani cricketers dont watch international cricket otherwise Hafeez wouldnt have made the comment about Ashwin. Throughout this season whether for CSK or for India tests or t20 Ashwin had been below par. In CLT20 part of CSK debacle could be put to his bowling so spinner's slot is a problem for India. I would think there is a toss up between Chawla & Ashwin for Jadeja's place. I think its wrong to criticise Dhoni for bowling Kohli but last over could have been by Yuvraj. But for his stupendous form in Ranji trophy Jadeja wouldnt have played. He is not justifying his form or talent.

Posted by motrama on (December 27, 2012, 15:16 GMT)

Hafeez, say thankx to Dhoni. I don't know why he needs eight batsman for 20 overs game. I think he lost his confidence on team and himself as well. No doubt he is good player but not good leader now....Funny thing is after Bhajji now Irfan Pathan disappeared from one day squad even he is in good form.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

@Pakistan_victorious, Dear, this decade means 2010 onwards, just like this century means 2000 onwards. so, dont be so sensitive, it was merely a fact being recited about first pakistan win against india this decade.

Needless to say, Dhoni needs to go after the defeat. Any captain in any game would hand over his resignation after 9/10 defeats (tests) and back-to-back series losses. The team needs to change from captain downwards, Its about time India should look to make separate teams for ODI, Tests & T20s. Whilst its the first game for kumar, its too early to get excited by his bowling. India should pick up the team based on current form & not reputation. Cancer should be not be mentioned in every sentence that has Yuvraj Singh. He survived, its a big deal, now its time to get on with the game. Its professional cricket & emotions should be left for fans, not for selection meetings.

Posted by NeutralVerdict on (December 27, 2012, 14:22 GMT)

First of all well done Pakistan. They once again proved that they are one of the most entertaining teams to watch but India too played their part too. For me the most interesting part of these two teams is summed up in their captains. In Hafeez, Pakistan have a very likeable, down to earth and honest captain who seems to be getting the best out of his team. I dont think it will be long before Pakistan are pushing the top of the rankings in all 3 forms of game - and to be honest with their undeniable quality its about time. But Dhoni and India have many problems. As a neutral I dont understand how Dhoni can be so biased to certain players when their are so many talented cricketers available to him. Unfortunately it seems that he has his favourites and these will be selected despite their poor form and performances. Finally it was nice to see a new bowler for India - Kumar. He looked good in helpful conditions but hopefully the pressure of a huge nation wont get to him!

Posted by zarasochozarasamjho on (December 27, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

Kumar's pace bowling ranks amongst the best. In a short spell of 4 overs he took the first 3 wickets for 9 runs. His success was also due to the fact he did not waste any of his deliveries by always ensuring that batsman had to play the bal - and he did not give away any boundary. Is Kumar Indian?

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Is Hafeez being sarcastic here?

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Good win for Pakistan, Pakistan has gone into the series as underdog. go the green

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

Vilander: I think Pakistan stands a much better chance against India in Tests as compared to T20s and especially as compared to ODIs (our worst suit of late). Team Misbah isn't easy to beat, of late.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

U always get this selection talk from the bharti friends .. just goes nto shwo they dont have suitable bowlers like Gul, Ajmal etc who walk in the team just like that. As IK said, dhoni doesnt have bowlers .. what can dhoni do. Fire the people at the MRF pace academy.

Posted by srinideva on (December 27, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

@Rajesh Christian, nicely written. This is what i want from the peoples. Something fun.not biased comments.way to go

Posted by CricketShanghai on (December 27, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

Well i have nothing against dhoni or the team he selected for this match , Its just he needs a break and the best way to do is giving up the captaincy for T20's . This is the format for the young and fresh minds and that makes a huge impact on the match . he looks worn out and rightly so after pressure cooker and long test series against england . Its time for him to give it up and focus on the other two formats as captain and a player . All the world is doing that , BCCI and dhoni should not be stubborn and give the young guns to lead the side in T20 atleast

Posted by mani1999 on (December 27, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

@ AnotherCricketer (Featured Comment).. What about those 2 sixes at Yuvraj which removed huge pressure at Pakistan? That it the highlighted area for me in the match. Regarding Kumar, Had u seen any swing in 4th over? It was the natural deviation of new ball. When u leave the ball slowly in good wrist position, then it deviates surely. This is what happened that night. It was the condition, the pressure, the night time factor, and pakistan batsmen technique made his day. 2005 Pathan came, and now where he is? In 4th over of KUmar there was no swing, so it was natural. I am pretty sure once he will bowl in day time in any 1 day, then you will see the difference. Hafeez should be worried, but what about Irfan. India should be worried for Ghambir, Kohli,Raina for short ball deliveries from Irfan hitting their rip cages..

Posted by Vilander on (December 27, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Although its only a t20 game and could have gone eitherway, one has to note that Indian team lacks skills. Pakistani team seems to bowl better, field equally bad, bat less badly than the indian team, in all this pakistani team might even defeat India in tests. Jaddu needs to go, Irfan needs to come in to the team along with Ashwin. The 7 foot pak bowler is good to look, another freak cricketer for pakistan, funny how they always unearth such awesome cricketers.

Posted by matchfixerpknn on (December 27, 2012, 11:35 GMT)

@ProdigyA and g.narsimha, you all forgot how Pakistan have dominated India in tests and ODIs since bilateral series began? Pakistan has beaten India more times in tests and ODIs and that is a fact. We managed to win our 2nd ever test in history and that too against India by an innings in India. Were you people following cricket in the past decade to say this is the first Pakistani win against India this decade? Let me remind you. In 2005, we toured India and beat you all in the 3rd test in Bangalore and won the ODI series 4-2. In 2006, when India toured Pakistan we won the test series 1-0. So that was well within the past few years. Looks like your memories are too short.

Posted by Dhana-is-hector on (December 27, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

what jadeja had acheived in T20 and in CSK nothing waste of money and place. where is uthappa, Sreesanth, ambathi rayadu, or U chand. Dhoni i think ur ran out of ur luck.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Fact 1: If a Captain of winning team is telling some in the media is not some joke. Fact 2: Pakistan will never ever play without S.Ajmal because they know they need atleast one specialist spinner.But India did. Fact 3:Irfan and Ashwin shud have played instead of Rohit and Jadeja.

Joke 1: 8 batsman and scored 133 and tried to defend with 3 specialist bowlers. Joke 2: Making Jadeja to bowl a final over.Even Malinga ,M.Morkel hit for a six and they have done it before with Jadeja. Joke 3: Everybody thought some miracle will happen and India will win.

Good thing 1: Dhoni gave the last over to Jadeja.Otherwise they must have won before 20th over. Good thing 2: A new Pacer was introduced.

True Fact 1:India cant win with this team. True fact 2: Pak showed they are better with bowling , batting and team composition.1 specialist spinner,3 pacers,1 classic all-rounder(AFRIDI)

Intersting fact:As an Indian fan,I still believe India can do better without our Legend SACHIN!!!JAIHIND!!!

Posted by PerfectTen on (December 27, 2012, 9:51 GMT)

Agree with Thyagu on the vagaries of this format. Cricket as such is a game of glorious uncertainties as they call it. Within that, T20 is certainly more so and insanely so! Apart from that, Ashwin is surely being sorted out by the opponents and his beginner's luck is running out, unless he sorts himself quickly. Dhoni's fixation with Jadeja will continue as long as he's at the helm of affairs. India should try an alternative to Gambhir as well. You have better options in Uthappa or even Rohit can be given that slot if he has to be in this team!

Posted by crindex on (December 27, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

Ashwin is NOT the solution for India's woes. Problems facing the Indian team is batting collapse . This happens time and again and more frequently now a days. It happens even after a good start given by the openers! How to address this problems is a question for selectors, coach and the team management. Dhoni too is part of the this collective batting collapse - is what really worrying .

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 9:18 GMT)

some indian fan saying " the highlight of the Match was Yuvi's six on the first ball he played. Kumar's first three overs were textbook bowling" ... HA HA HA .. have a break dude. i guess u have no idea wht is cricket.. they are not mad to haven hafeez MoM trophy.. think BIG and be a sport love too

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

I wonder, whether the Captain and/or coaches study the history of their players adequately. The three pacers AND Ashwin could have been in the team.

Yes, Dhoni admitted that Ashwin leaks runs, when the field restrictions are lifted, and hence can be more effectivel during the power play. But he seems to be forgetting that Dinda and to a great extent Ishant are better bowlers with the older ball. Both have been less effective in the early overs.

Dhoni could have used Kumar & Ashwin for the first 6 overs, and Dinda & Ishant later. That would also have left the Captain with at lest FOUR (if not more) overs from the pacers, for bowling overs 17 to 20. (In any case, despite poorer fielding, Ashwin is better than Jadeja, especially in the shorter formats. Even his fielding is improving, though not up to Jadeja's level)

Posted by Jaggadaaku on (December 27, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

Almost each time, Ashwin makes more runs than at-least one of the specialize Indian batsmen, and definitely makes more and faster runs than the Captain-Mr. Cold. If India don;t consider him as a bowler, Ashwin plays a part of specialize batsman pretty better than most specialize batsmen. I guess, Indian captain has to quit playing cricket for a while, and analyze what to do just watching. Until now, I always seen that the indian captain never perform good, they all are in the team because they are captains, but when Mr. Cold became a captain, my impression of Indian captain has changed, but now Mr. Cold showing that he is just like other captains. But whatever happens, our Mr. cold always has excuses. Entire team including himself perform very very poor, but Mr. Cold always finds some positives to defend his boys and his own decisions, and the media also helps him. Otherwise India have 27 local team, but they still use same players in T20 who also play tests and ODIs.

Posted by Thyagu5432 on (December 27, 2012, 8:54 GMT)

T20 is one format which gives ample opportunities to win even to the minnows. So all these world class bowlers and batsmen not selected etc., do not make any sense and to see that Hafeez is playing the mind game (by saying they are happy to have Ashwin not play and to say this when 1 more game is yet to be played) is even more funny. What you can expect in a T20 game is thrills unlimited. The first game provided that, the last game against England also provided that and I am hoping the next game also provides that. If minnows can win, India can too. If India can, Pak can too. Thats T20 for you.

Posted by UKFIX on (December 27, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

GREAT Win Pakistan and Inshaa Allah second one is coming on Friday. for al those who say it was luck, check Indian team records, how they have been humiliated by England in England and now in India. 8 batsman could not face the world class bowling and what we saw in Pakistan bating inning was a good seam bowling but what happened next is a history. To all Indian fans, please admit your no more a lion even in your back yard. GET ready for more defeats. Ashwin or no Ashwin, result will be the same. Ashwin is not a world class spinner, look at his average and strike rate, even in India (spinner friendly wickets), he struggled against quality sides.

Posted by Mrinal-Banday on (December 27, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

Please mind it... its cricket. If India win, than everybody tell Well done! Good team selection.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

This decision of leaving out Ashwin, the only Indian Cricketer, who has shown some consistency in almost all forms of the games he had played either in bowling or batting, hopefully is not a "nail in the coffin" for the Indian Cricket Team, which is already in shambles. God save Indian Cricket. The selection criteria, sometimes, looks more complicated than space science and at other times looks more foolish than Mr. Bean's behavior. The fortunes of the team are also fluctuating this way.

Posted by rupeshsmc on (December 27, 2012, 8:31 GMT)

India did everything well EXCEPT losing Score was good (if not high). Just Ashwin's omission is not responsible. Fielding is also India's poorer front. Come on! One more match coming up in A'bad... Hope for the best moments !!! Jadeja is a good option but may be, it was a bad day for him. India just needs a fierce fast bowler!

Posted by rupeshsmc on (December 27, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

India did everything well EXCEPT losing Score was good (if not high). Just Ashwin's omission is not responsible. Fielding is also India's poorer front. Come on! One more match coming up in A'bad... Hope for the best moments !!! Jadeja is a good option but may be, it was a bad day for him. India just needs a fierce fast bowler!

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

Ashwin or no ashwin it was indian batting which let them dawn

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 8:14 GMT)

India rely too much on their batsman and whenever they fail, india lose. The team needs balance. India may win the next match and square the series but this is not a good long term strategy. Hafeez is right, the seamers bowled well, one good spin bowler and india could ve won the match.

Posted by Asim194 on (December 27, 2012, 8:04 GMT)

I believe Indian players were overconfident on their batting and tried to experiment in the bowling dept. They were caught off-guard and couldn't come back. I was use to seeing Pakistanin players missing the stumps on run out opportunities but seeing Indian players miss manya times was evidence of them feeling the pressure. Both captains have played their cards (Irfan and Kumar) now lets see what else both of them have up their sleves. I like this playing the game before the game actually starts :)

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 7:47 GMT)

Leaving ashwin was a surprise for me too, cause he would have an additional threat for pakistan while they lost early wickets,........as Hafeez admits if there are no world class spinners they were happy to deal in end of the inning.......although India fought against very low tatal, deserved team won, which Pakistan .........wanted to gain it.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (December 27, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

@KiwiRocker: Hafeez,Malik and Afridi are genuine all rounders. Lolz.To some extent i can agree for Afridi and Razzaq but calling hafeez and malik as genuine all rounders is an insult to the real genuine all rounders like Watson,Kallis etc.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

i think that statement is a indicator for indian team.. hafeez want ashwin to be played in next t20 coz as v in last match Indian seam bowlers were making it bit difficult for pak team in initial overs but then they recovered after marvelous partnership.

Posted by mazii on (December 27, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

g.narishma...With no offence...My dear are you talking that Pakistan haven't won a single match against India in this decade or in the past ten years?

Posted by PakEditor on (December 27, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

Riveting first match - and more still to unravel. Well played Shoaib!!! In the match that is.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 7:10 GMT)

Dhoni should not make excuses,,, taking 7 batsmen and getting only 133 on board???

Posted by ggaammeerr on (December 27, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

The only way India can even compete in cricket matches now is to play 14 batsman and 8 bowlers in the playing 11!!

Posted by vish57 on (December 27, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

T20 neeed to be played with5 full time bowlers, Ashwin's presence would have helped India to score 20 more runs with bat , not with ball. He is slowly shadowing Ravi Sastri, from a bowler to an allrounder later should not become an all rounder who can neither bowl nor bat. On the lighter side Ashwin has a good english and strong voice, can take over Ravi Sastri's role as a commentator as well.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

I am happy to see Hafeez playing this whole mind game on the front foot. Yes, telling your opponent team why they loose there match is pity talk and it will definitely put pressure of dhoni XI.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 6:09 GMT)

It is sad and pathetic that the country who always had maestro spinners does not have a world class spinner.

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (December 27, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

@ Jenin Jose Ha Ha You are right man. That is the plan.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 5:40 GMT)

I am a great supporter of Dhoni and his instinctive leadership..but the problem with instinctive leadership is when things go wrong..your instincts dessert you and you look like a fool.. Dhoni has to go back to Basics.. he can play 7+4 combination with him being No7 , but the 4 bowlers must be your best to play the game..Ashwin or any other spinner should play the game.. Chawla and Jadeja are not good enough and Dhoni must be told that...Rahane, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj look firm and good .. Rohit Sharma is not a No 5 batsman, Raina and Dhoni and 6 and 7 are good..They must send Rohit Sharma either at 4 and bring Yuvi a 5..If Irfan can play then Rohit must be dropped and Irfan should be No 7..Also bowling changes are the worst these days..Kohli eased the pressure created by the bowlers.. 4 top bowlers must play , if they go for runs then bring in your part timers..dont do it the other way..

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 5:40 GMT)

I dont think Ashiwn's inclusion would have made any difference. You cannot win T20 matches scoring less than 135, it was a batting failure. On Indian's wickets 160+ could be a winnable score that too against a team which cannot play spin well. So lets wakeup and try to score well in the game tomorrow.

Posted by g.narsimha on (December 27, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

GETSETGOPAK- Just one win & u r talking of best team in the world, had it been a loss u might have come up with these funny things like- no drs,pak loss itself,or U R govt influenced blah- this is first win in a decade in all form of the games over INDIA so enjoy man if tommorrow u r team loses than dont be a cry baby, reg our bowling just check the recent matches baring DHAKAA ODI U R TEAM,COULD NOT DOMINATE OUR BOWLING in SL t-20 u r team could score 120+ dont make tall claims ,had it been not a tactical mistak by DHONI in giving bowling to KOHLI & JADEJA who conceded 50 runs together the match would have had oppsite result but there are no ifs & buts in cxricket u r team played good cricket &won. LILIAN THOMSON- YAA this medeocre player is far better batsman than u r front line batters , forget his bowling by vartue of his batting he qualifies to be in playing 11 but its the greatness of our captain - his baby RAVINDRA JADEJA -ITS THE IRONY OF PRESENT DAY INDIAN CRICKET

Posted by 6669 on (December 27, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

i was surprised to see kohli bowling as we have other option of raina & rohit can spin well and the inclusion of jadeja is worth less at any scenario let msd takes, i believe dhoni has to give his captaincy atleast in t20 so that he can able to concentrate in batting and keeping my option of captain for t20 is kohli or raina bcci has to seen this issue seriously in order not to loss further t20 match, as like test matchs we lost.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 4:57 GMT)

Is this a trick by Pakistan Captain Hafeez to play Ashwin , So that they can score 50 run in his 4 overs . Dhoni don't get trapped . Lol

Posted by WindiesGT on (December 27, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

India needs to stop focusing on favouritism. You need 3-4 front line bowlers including your spinner. what has \jadeja done to merit selection on this team as compared to chances not given to others?

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 4:40 GMT)

what sunny346 has mentioned its correct you no need comment on the player Ashwin is better than Jadeja or some one you have to play well & win the matches.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 4:29 GMT)

According to Hafeezacalls Ashwin a world class bowler , who failed miserably against england, so that Dhoni will take listless Ashwin back and the Pakistanis will then smash him out of the ground. Good game of chess Hafeez ! Well played better than your 1st T20 innings ....

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 4:10 GMT)

Adding pressure on Dhoni will not do any favors to India, if he is meant to leave T20 as well, who will captain the side? Different players for the different formats, as Sir Geoffrey Boycott has said and groom them according to the format, and he said it back in the test and one dayers, now you have a new format altogether. I feel sorry for Dhoni bearing the brunt,while the so called cricketing stalwarts are not addressing the problem.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 3:50 GMT)

Favouritsm and IPLism is destroying Indian Cricket. Learn from England, Australia, SA teams where they have a young team lead by a young captain.MSD, Gambhir, time to go out of T20 team. Jadeja is not a player to be included in T20, is neither a good bowler nor a good batsman except his domestic runs in batting pata tracks...

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 3:46 GMT)

dhoni is really scared of skilled team peers .i have seen him not giving a fair chance to sehwag, rohit sharma , badrinath, irfan and now ashwin , in future he may do this with kohli and gambhir. he wants to save his captaincy he just pull player from the team whom he thinks can be better than him

Posted by ramli on (December 27, 2012, 3:40 GMT)

Ashwin has always not feared to bowl in powerplays ... one must appreciate his willingness to take this risk ... not many bowlers will do that ... and ... whether he is world class or not ... only time will tell ... too early to judge now ... but leaving him out to give chance to Jadeja as a bowler cannot be justified by any sound argument ... sorry MSD ... your idea is useless

Posted by vishwa_a on (December 27, 2012, 3:39 GMT)

The day Dhoni is out of Captain's role, Jadeja's international career will thankfully be over. He has hit only one six in last 20 T20 matches, but given more than 20 sixes so far. He can neither bowl nor bat! I don't know, why he is in the squad leave aside why he is playing 11. I am waiting for Dhoni's ouster! You can't convert Indian team as team of CSK!

Posted by Cric2 on (December 27, 2012, 3:37 GMT)

how do you NOT give your best bowler of the day the final over? Especially with dew a factor, why would you give a spinner a chance?

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 3:34 GMT)

ProdigyA <---- This guy lives in his own little bubble doesnt he. Its funny to read their comments once they are out of their bubble.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 3:08 GMT)

I don't think hafiz is smart enough to play mind games at that level. So in actuality he is just being really unprofessional here. He has no right to question Indian selection. He should concerned about his n next time memorize his team selection on toss. To all my paki bros hold your praises and rubbing at the end of series. Till then pray. Go Paki powers, n hope we don't get overconfident by just winning one game.

Posted by Zubairs2001 on (December 27, 2012, 2:54 GMT)

Leaving out Ashwin is a good decision or bad decision, playing Jadeja for the sake of Ashwin is a nonsense decision. Dhoni how many matches Jadeja has to prove you he is not worth a place either for his batting or bowling. Go back to stats and check how many matches Jadeja has helped u to lose as a nonperformer, wake up yaar. Selectors r also to be blamed for this for selecting Jadeja again and again. Dhoni u think that either Jadeja's batting or bowling will come in handy for u, but is it really happening?? not in at least 1 match he proved that he is match winner or at least worth of his place in the team. Dhoni surely u are out of ur minds....

Posted by John80 on (December 27, 2012, 2:43 GMT)

Yes. It was not a great decision to leave out full time spinner and playing with part time spinners. Pakistan played with 3 full time spinners and India had none. Team India strategies seem to be very weird these days and they deserve to lose that game for poor team selection. They persist with non performers like jadeja and Rohit and leave out genuine allrounder like Ashwin.

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (December 27, 2012, 2:26 GMT)

I can already see that Hafeez is learning very fast. He is trying to master the art of mind games. He is still not Stephen Flemming or Steve Waught but progress is good. R.Ashwin is not a world class spinner. Poor man has an average of 60+ per wicket outside India for his wickets. He is probably a decent spinner who can contain the batsmen. He has got no mystery about him. Hafeez obviously knows that Ashwin is a bread and butter for Pakistani batsmen and they will like to see him so he is enouraging his inlucision! The biggest negative about Ashwin is that he is very poor fielder like Sehwag. He will cost 10-15 easy runs in the field. His batting is useful but he is not on that level as lets say R.Jadeja. R.Jadeja is a more than decent batsman and probably India's best fielder. He went for few runs but so would R.Ashwin. The problem for India is that they have no all rounders like Pakstan has Shoib Malik, Hafeez, Afridi. ( and Razzaq).These are geuine all rounders unlike Pathans/Jadeja

Posted by Vnott on (December 27, 2012, 2:15 GMT)

Fact is Ashwin proved how good a batsman he is. He shd be playing at 6 or 7. There is no case for him to be dropped. Yes. He has had a dip. He still picked 14 wickets in the test series.... No place for Rohit right now. Indian top order is not so bad that we need 7 batsmen. Incidentally Bhuvaneshwar Kumar is a decent bat too. So effectively Ishant and Dinda is the only tail. Ashwin for Rohit will ensure the right balance. Dhoni needs a bit of rest from captaincy. He is all muddled up - all wrong decisions. Even for the last over yuvraj was a much better bet than Jadeja who should be in the team as a fielding all rounder who can do a bit of bowl, bit of bat at no:8 not earlier....and definitely not the final over....Lastly all said and done if we collapse the way we did, it is always unlikely that we would win. India should have got 155-160 from that start....so 25 runs sub optimal...

Posted by Happy_AusBang on (December 27, 2012, 2:10 GMT)

I don't think it is a good idea to have Umar Akmal go up the order. He has never done well there. It is as if he does not know what to do even with all his talents. It is better to have his brother Kamran Akmal go up the order probably at number three or four.

Posted by Happy_AusBang on (December 27, 2012, 2:07 GMT)

Jadeja is a bits and pieces player. The only thing he is better at is fielding. He is an exceptional fielder I admit. Other than that, Ashwin bowls better and definitely bats better. The left-hand right-hand logic of Dhoni is fair enough but I would pick on performance any day even if Ashwin didn't have a terrific time lately.

Posted by amarnath79 on (December 27, 2012, 1:58 GMT)

Harbhajan is still India's best spinner, especially in limited overs. India has been losing regularly since dropping Harbhajan.

Posted by Salmans_A_Qureshi on (December 27, 2012, 1:56 GMT)

In my opinion, Hafeez is playing a psychological game here. He might find Ashwin easier to play and hence making Dhoni's mind to select Ashwin for next game. Otherwise only a fool can openly say that "thanks God, Ashvin as not selected", this is just like showing your cards.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 1:49 GMT)

@JimK007, Woow Iam amazed to see ur star players against our bench sitter, just compare them both against England and you will know the difference,

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 1:47 GMT)

At all Rohit sharma is not bieng given good opportunities.Once he settled he would smash all the balls.But in many matches he gets into field after 15 overs.

Posted by cric4world on (December 27, 2012, 1:24 GMT)

amazing off the field tactic by hafeez. keep the indian media debate about dhoni keeping ashwin out of 1st game. if dhoni brings him in n wins the 2nd match every indian is gona ask him y didnt u play him in 1st game. n if ashwin plays india loses a better T20 batsman and an athletic fielder like jadeja so better chance of pakistan to win 2nd game bcoz ashwin has not taken many wickets recently.so hafeez has put dhoni in an awkward position here. whether to stick to his decision or to listen to opposing captain :)

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 1:09 GMT)

According to Hafeezacalls Ashwin a world class bowler , who failed miserably against england, so that Dhoni will take listless Ashwin back and the Pakistanis will then smash him out of the ground. Good game of chess Hafeez ! Well played better than your 1st T20 innings ....

Posted by BravoBravo on (December 27, 2012, 1:08 GMT)

Mr. Hafeez, are you trying to be a goodwill ambassador? You need to have faith in your team for every win. As a matter of fact, IND tried all possible permutation combination, in all formats of game, with the same results: that is loosing all the time. IND put blames all the time on their bowlers, hiding their batting weakness, fielding weakness behind their bowling unit. Conclusion is that IND remains a mediocre team for last 80 years.

Posted by AH_USA on (December 27, 2012, 1:03 GMT)

@Dhaval Patel: You have stated that "... India have always dominated Pakistan..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_cricket_rivalry

ODI: Total Played = 121, PAK won = 69, IND won = 48, Draw = 4 TESTS: Total Played = 59, PAK won = 12, IND won = 9, Draw = 37 T20: Total Played = 4, PAK won = 1, IND won = 2, Draw = 1

So, India is only slightly ahead of PAK in T20.

Hopefully, the record is now straight.

Posted by natasrik on (December 27, 2012, 0:46 GMT)

I my opinion it is time to think about Gambhir, infact the last few 20-20 his scoring pattern is ridiculous, infact he should have scored atleast 50-55 runs considering the balls faced and as a experienced cricketer he should have taken a lead. Infact I would ask Rohit sharma and Rahane to open and we play with 3 fast bowlers, AShwin and Jadeja, plus part timers like Yuvi, Raina and Rohit Sharma. I think that should be the way to go for 20-20. Dhoni also has to make use of all the part timers shrewdly and not once in a blue moon.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 0:34 GMT)

I feel many critics here fail to pick the cherry in hafiz christmas pie of a comment ,Ashwin is the best we've got and he can only improve with time ...benching him and Putting faith in part-timers will only end in results such as these..... what's that about 7 foot irfan ....should he wear indian blue to get media attention . Pakistan should dominate the world for unearthing such a player! Its true There are times when things simply fall in place ...Irfan ,hafiz,nnnn What...More!

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 0:29 GMT)

C'mon guys lets just move on !! it was just a T20 ! one team had to win ! I think our skipper Hafeez should Shut up and focus for the next game ...

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 0:18 GMT)

As many pundits said... if 7 Batsmen cannot put up a total, what would the 8th Batman do....? Shoudn't India play genuine 4 bowlers? Off course if we find someone with that quality... Left Right & Centre in Lanka, Pakistan & B'Desh they are producing genuine spinners... BUT in India, they believe in bowlers who can spin 2 Centimeters for every delivery... what a joke! Either you learn a lesson from this or focus on sponsorship & money making!! Facts are Facts!!

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 0:13 GMT)

I think Hafeez should worry about his own team and batting line up instead of running his mouth about who india should have played in their line up. This game was won merely in the last over, could have gone india's way.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 0:12 GMT)

@crindex: sometimes people make mistake even when they are just trying to state the obvious....

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 23:57 GMT)

@cricindex: Hafees and co scared of Jadeja? ssuuuuurrreeee .. btw jadeja got smashed for 29 in 2.5 overs by Hafeez and Malik

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 23:57 GMT)

This is the predicament of the Indian Cricket Team at the moment. Our most trusted pacer Zaheer Khan is out of form. On top of that our spinners are not world class. The only world class spinner, Harbhajan Singh cannot play. One of the spinners is in fact more comfortable with the new ball than the old ball. Thanks to selectors though for giving young Kumar a chance who ultimately saved our face by bowling splendidly.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 23:18 GMT)

In what parallel universe is Ashwin a "world class" spinner? This is excellent reverse psychology from Pakistan, who clearly want Ashwin included in the next few games so that they can maul him. These two series are Pakistan's to lose, given the state of the Indian team now.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 22:27 GMT)

77-0 and 132-9...great ..i don't understood why kohli came to bat after ten overs. t-20 specialist's raina and rohit coming to play after 17 overs....they should face more balls... I am not surprised with Pakistan's winning... I don't understand why kohli is bowling... When two batsman are new to crease we should go with our best bowling attack..what about RP singh and Munaf ..

Posted by KarachiKid on (December 26, 2012, 22:25 GMT)

@Bilal Anser, Spot On !! we should not forget Afridi's contribution. The x-factor he brings into play. His bowling and fielding are enough to get him selected. However, batting wise, he should now come not before 8.

Posted by theRule19 on (December 26, 2012, 21:31 GMT)

For this Indian team to do good in all formats of the game including the tests...IPL should be stopped or if they still want to keep IPL then play overseas players not an issue but none of the players who are selected in the Indian squad should be allowed to play IPL. Probably then see the big change in results that everyone is asking for.

Posted by InnocentGuy on (December 26, 2012, 21:12 GMT)

HA HA HA. To play mental games is one thing, but to say Ashwin is world-class is entirely another. I don't know which will be funnier: Hafeez calling Ashwin world-class or India going ahead and including Ashwin in the 2nd T20 (only to see him bashed all around the park and Hafeez saying "guess we are a top-performing T20 side after all, Ashwin or no Ashwin" at the post-match press conference..

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 21:02 GMT)

dhoni is really scared of skilled team peers .i have seen him not giving a fair chance to sehwag, rohit sharma , badrinath, irfan and now ashwin , in future he may do this with kohli and gambhir. he wants to save his captaincy he just pull player from the team whom he thinks can be better than him.

Posted by sunny346 on (December 26, 2012, 20:53 GMT)

As a professional player don't depend up on the opposition players MR.hafeez, play well and win the matches and if you like appreciate the players in your team as well as opposition team player if he plays well. But don't behave like fool by saying we won because some xxx player is out of team. the meaning of that word means you don't know how to win by overcoming that xxx player.Play well and win matches if u can being an Indian i will appreciate if u win . good luck .learn how to Behave like professional and then play cricket MR.Hafeez

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 20:23 GMT)

Good match and good all-round show my the whole pakistan team. Shoaib Malik looks like proving everyone that he can be a match winner. Good luck.

Posted by haq33 on (December 26, 2012, 20:17 GMT)

Yeah, wink wink, we really are afraid of ashwin, wink nudge. Please keep him out of the team, lolz. No mind games at all here. At this rate Hafeez cud convince Chelsea to bring back Dennis wise, forget Fernando Torres.

Posted by crindex on (December 26, 2012, 20:13 GMT)

Non contributors: Rohit Sharma , Yuvi and Kohli. All three are supposed to be good batsmen with some amount of bowling skills. Jadeja has a big heart. He may not have been successful but his spirit and energy in the field is infectious. Raina is another similar cricketer. So Ashwin should and can be dropped for Jadeja. I see no problem with that.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 20:02 GMT)

I am surprised to see everyone is focusing on part-time bowlers. If you have five regular bowlers then what happens, is everyone bowls like McGrath, Warn, Wasim, Waqar or Murli. In every match 2-3 bowlers perform and I think overall performance of Indian bowlers is good. Its their batsmen who let them down. With this strength they should score 160 minimum. India should have plan for each player especially for batsmen.

Posted by Mass_Hypnosis on (December 26, 2012, 19:59 GMT)

Ashwin's not at all a world class bowler. Seems like a tactics by the Pakistani captain to include Ashwin for their own sake. I guess Harbhajan would be a better option against pakistan atleast for the t20s. Bring back Praveen please.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

Everybody seem to neglect afridi's contribution to the game. Afridi was the one who initiated the batting collapse of india by getting rid of Rahane. He is well known of breaking crucial partnerships.

Posted by ddlj26 on (December 26, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

Stupid comments on this forum... people should not be blaming anyone for the defeat apart from our famed middle order, what use is rohit sharma and jadeja is this team i fail to understand, when players of the ability of manoj tiwary, rayudu continue to be on the bench and these failed stars are given multiple opportunities you will end up losing more than winning more... dhoni, yuvi and virat also need to realize that every ball in a T20 are not meant to be hit, sometimes waiting out a few overs would have helped... anyways i think going forward india can fight back if they make the right selection and use their heads

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 19:50 GMT)

People who think that the contribution of Afridi was average should note the fact, that the indian batting started collapsing after Afridi got rid of Rahane. He is well known to breaking crucial partnerships.. I personally think he has alot to prove in the batting department.

Posted by Krimson on (December 26, 2012, 19:23 GMT)

hafeez bhai, you have really made us feel proud, you were brilliant in the ground and now outside, I believe this tactical statement would work either way!!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

Capground, Rivernile...I agree with whoever's comments about Pakistan's capabilities. To me Pakistan was, is and will always be a favourite against India. That Mohali semifinal would have been a different game altogether had those catches been taken, Shahid Afridi's team were the best side in that world cup 2011.

Posted by Abdullah1991 on (December 26, 2012, 19:08 GMT)

It seems like M Hafeez wants to put pressure on Dhoni and Indian media to be thinking about wrong decision taken by the Indian captain. Good approach by the Pak skipper to keep Indian media under control. Now I can say Insha Allah Pak is going to win the next T20 as well

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 19:03 GMT)

hafeez is right,,, it was really surprising, ashwin not playing in the game. in fact it helped pakistan to win the game... otherwise he would have definitely troubled shoaib malik in the last over...

poor selection by indian selectors... ashwin is far far better than jadeja...

Posted by wiseshah on (December 26, 2012, 19:01 GMT)

hafeez statement make ashwin a superman but in reality he is an ordinary bowler and current now in bad form. dont know what hafeez is praising or mocking

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 19:01 GMT)

no way to criticise each other .on the day any one who played well they deserve the victory. india played badly thats why loss the match .on the other hand pk capatalize chances won the match.

Posted by cric_mojo on (December 26, 2012, 18:59 GMT)

India doesn't lack good bowlers.. it's the intent in getting them.

Posted by shoaib.rasheed on (December 26, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

@ProdigyA You Probably never seen the Head-to-head statistics, In Overall Cricket between the two Countries so far, India Won 59, Pakistan Won 82 (includes all Tests, ODI, T20 Wins)

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 18:52 GMT)

dhoni should learn from haffez's captain Knock ...he should take the responsibility.

honestly he doesn't deserve a place on the current team.

Posted by Pak_suleman on (December 26, 2012, 18:45 GMT)

well done pakistanies.you really made us pround specially hafeez and malik.go green go.keep it up

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 18:41 GMT)

when india had good chances a couple of years ago to improve their head 2 head tally they didnt play with pakistan and now india is no more a good team after all icons retirments & again they start playing with them i afraid india will further lag behind in its head to head tally alll blames to BCCI

Posted by tisra on (December 26, 2012, 18:33 GMT)

@ ProdigyA :: B'desh aint 'next', mate, they started that as well!

Posted by rivernile on (December 26, 2012, 18:19 GMT)

@ProdigyA - I am not a Pakistani nor a fan, but I think that you need a little more humbleness and humility. Pakistan white washed England in the test series in UAE (not their home soil) and India just lost the test series to England in India (lets not mention the debacle that India faced in Australia and in England). So bad undermining Pakistan only makes you look non the wiser.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Why India lacks good bowlers in all these days is something that needs to be addressed. India had just a handful of world class bolers in the past like Kapil, Srinath, Kumble and Harbhajan apart from the three-four famous spinners of 1960-70's. Umesh Yadav, Irfan are takended, but is injury prone and hardly available for 50% of the time in a year for selection as a result of that. If the hot and humid conditions are preventing the fast bowlers from being developed, then why the hell they put the MRF pace academy in the hottest place in India - Chennai. Instead of that, they (BCCI) can think of having the pace academy in a hill station or cooler places like Dharmashala if it helps. Thanks to Sachin, India have a lot of talented batsman like Virat, Pujara, Tiwary who all grown up by watching Sachin's exploits. It is high time India starts looking for developing talended bowlers and keeping them fit with load balancing.

Posted by Capround on (December 26, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

ProdigyA, Pakistan wins almost 50% more games than India in head to head competition -- since the two countries started playing international cricket. So am not clear where the India "has started loosing to Pak too now" observation came from.

Posted by Jimk007 on (December 26, 2012, 18:15 GMT)

Hafeez bhai how about you just shut up and mind your own teams' business. You have the most sorry batting line up in world cricket, guys who would not even get a bench on other teams.

Posted by cric_mojo on (December 26, 2012, 18:11 GMT)

Can't remember a strike bowler of India who atleast made oppositions nervous, till then more humiliation... Selectors be praised!!!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 18:02 GMT)

With comments like these, Hafeez is rightly called as Professor!! Ashwin is an ok bowler...but not as good as he is overrated. All this whining by the loosing side, its supporters and media is something very usual. Cricket is a game, lets keep it like this. Whoever wins or looses, at the end of the day its the game which comes out as a victor.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 17:45 GMT)

India loves it when its players get false accolades. Oh my God! Have u seen Ashwin, the best spinner on the planet. Ashwin just pikcs up the ball and the opposing batsmen collapse and dies of a stroke or heart attack. Truth is Indian bowling is pathetic. Their spinners are way worse than even the Bengal Tigers. Pak batting is awful too. For them to collapse because a debutant was swinging the ball is inexcusable. The guy is not even quick. What will the Pakis do when they face Morkel or Stein. This India Pak series is a thriller for political reasons. Two countries that hate each other playing for glory. The next best thing to fighting a war. As for quality, Pak batting is horrible; Indian bowling is substandard.

Posted by keyancools on (December 26, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

If Ashwin finds his form definitely he will trouble Pakistan,though he's no where near Ajmal quality still he can atleast be better than Yuvi and Jadeja.

Posted by Jawad.Paul on (December 26, 2012, 17:29 GMT)

Brilliant by Hafeez. Its more than a double bluff. He knows Jadeja is Dhoni's chum and wants to trick the Indian Captain to go against his instincts. Mind games are on; much better than Ishant-Akmal episode, I believe.

Posted by ProdigyA on (December 26, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

Wow.. So India have started loosing to Pak too now? What's next B'desh? A new low i say.

Posted by ashwa1992 on (December 26, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

Wait on guys who said Pakistan is a world class side??? probably dhoni would have felt that without a world class spin bowler he could tame an inconsistent pak batting line up and he almost got it right except for the last over of the match where he could have bowled raina.......... anyway good luck india the next time they take the field.....

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 17:19 GMT)

we will see ashwin as well in next match. He is only a average bowler. Only in the side because he plays for CSK, Same is the case for Jadeja. A meaning less million dollor man hahahha

Posted by westindian_fan on (December 26, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

Hafeez is provoking the Indian team selectors! Ashwin has been pathetic with his bowling, and Hafeez calls him world-class. Hafeez wants Ashwin to play the next game, so that they can whack him all across the ground. Even if Ashwin bowls 2 overs, he'll concede some 30 odd runs for sure.What an idea Hafeezji!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

Good game. Great result. Love to see Pak bowlers in action.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

For the second consecutive time India's defeat is attributable, at least partly, to wrong team selection. Against England it was Awana ahead of Ishanth. In Pak match it is the choice of Jadeja ahead of Ashwin. Ashwin should not be dropped from any match for some more time as permanancy of his position in the team is good for him as well as the team.

Hoping that some sense will prevail on the part of MSD and selectors in the remaining matches.

Posted by Nadeem1976 on (December 26, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

i don't see any wrong selection here. pakistan was 3 down and match was already over but due to good batting by both hafeez and malik we were able to win. One bowler don't make difference. Pakistanies batted well for long time to win that match.

Posted by crindex on (December 26, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

"Even Fernando Torres has to sit out for Chelsea." - man... what an arrogance this kid Ashwin has ! I dont think he has learnt any lesson from the beating he got from the poms just weeks ago.

Posted by crindex on (December 26, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

Hafeez/Pakistanis are so cunning... I hope India does not fall for this trap. Hafeez must be really threatened by Jadeja. Have you ever heard of a Pakistani captain ever praising an Indian bowler? Its a straight bluff where Hafeez wants Ashwin to play the next game instead of Jadeja. May be Ashwin is a softer target for Pakiis than Jadeja. Jadeja's winning spirit is better than whatever skills Ashwin brings to the table. Watch out guys !

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

dhoni..enf excuses...he says rohit n raina were available as off-spinner options but he didnt give both of them a single over..though I would nt have liked rohit to bowl I definitely would have preferred Raina over jadeja to bowl final over of Pak innings...

Posted by sweetspot on (December 26, 2012, 16:37 GMT)

There is no winning batting first in Bengaluru in a T20. That's just how the pitch plays, particularly at night and this time of the year. Looks like the Ashwin haters are out in large numbers, prowling to take their ire out!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

Good job Captain of Pakistan cricket team

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 16:14 GMT)

Good game and good to see indo-pak again playing !! Pak bowler done gr8 job after 11 overs and on the other side indian debut bowler bowl a dream spell and really stunned every1 with his swing both ways !

who ever wins Pak or Ind .. I like to watch good close game always

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (December 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT)

it might be a double bluff from hafeez. Anyways.. i wasnt really happy with pakistani squad selection.. especailly guys like umer amin in squad. haris sohail can be very handy in middle order. but overhaul it was a good team selection. Muhammad irfan should be considered for ODI team as well. I am sure ahmad shahzad, nasir jamshed and umar akmal will perform in next games as they are very talented.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

India lost the match when the first 20 overs finished. It was supposed to be an easy walk over for Pak just like for India in the T-20 World Cup in Sri Lanka- almost similar score. But India fought hard initially leaving pak in a precarious position at 12-3. Later there were lot of ups and downs and Pak had to fight it hard till the end. It was not so easy for them. It is natural that lot of post-mortem takes place once India was beaten . Had India won, nobody would have talked about Ashwin's omission or India's batting failure.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:58 GMT)

ashwin miss india loss the match

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 26, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

Dhoni is a funny guy LOL, but you have to cut him some slack for even saying something, may that be excuses or whatever as when he runs back to the cupboard, its nothing in there, nothing he can do really, its not just one player, its the whole team. On pure potential, this Pakistan team is the best there is in T20 cricket in the whole of subcontinent and it can give the toughest of times to other oppositions. Indias problems are many folds including a will to succeed. A player that has millions is the bank would be the least worried about the cricket he plays. IPL it seems has corrupted more than just batting and bowling techniques, it has also killed the will. IPL contract is the goal, playing for country and pride are long forgotten things. Bad luck for India fans.

Posted by Thilakraju on (December 26, 2012, 15:50 GMT)

Ashwin shouldn't be drop for next game, dhoni made ok desision for last game because ashwin didn't play well last couple of games, but they don't have any one to replaced ashwin .....7 batsman +all rounder +3 bowler is not good for india, they never made a partnership in 6 th or 7 th wicket except some games.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

even Pakistanis say high of an Indian bowler but our Indian brothers say ill about him... so sad to say this.. this is why India never achieves.........

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:28 GMT)

Ashwin might have been their beacause he was also a threat for Pakistan.Whereas Pakistan had also decided too defend ashiwin so it would have helped the indians to pull up the game due to runrate.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

From indian point of view, i think Harbhajan is a better spinner than Ashwin, his records tell the story, Ashwin is more likely a container and needs to learn a lot, B. Kumar was great yesterday, finaly india got a good swing young bowler. He could be a better asset for indian future cricket. After sachin, sehwag and dhoni should also retire, they are out of touch and selectors should give youngsters la chance

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

dhoni's dependency on these poor part timer (virat, jadeja, rohit, raina, yuvi) will sink their team, He should back ashwin, ojha, chawla, mishra, harbhajan (atleast 2 from these) as a quality spinner... Mr. professor take advantage of world-class ajmal... so why not Mr. Cool??.. bring bowler like negi (delhi daredevils), rajat bhatia(KKR), kamran khan, rahul sharma (pune warriors)... think about these guys dhoni... atleast pick them up randomly in squad and give them chance, who know they will better than jadeja, raina, and rohit.... Good Luck Team India...!!!!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

Come on everyone. The game was decided on the 3rd last ball. Its not the end of the World. Pakistan bowled really well and for a partnership, with the bat. India had an off day. For Pakistan, that is the bad thing, that it was so close on India's off day.

Posted by deol84 on (December 26, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

hafeez bhai,what special you have seen in mystrey mastro ashwin.He is the most over rated bowler india ever produced.

Posted by here2rock on (December 26, 2012, 15:06 GMT)

I would like to see Ashwin out the squad, he is over weight, does not turn the ball and lacks the thinking to get the batsman out.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

Totally okay to drop Ashwin - this from a big Ashwin fan. You have to play what you believe is your best XI on the day. You also have to be ready to drop other stars if the situation demands it - no justification needed.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 15:00 GMT)

Ashwin is currently struggling. It would not have helped India if he was picked. I feel he should have been dropped for the full tour of Pakistan. I think this was the best team available. Only the batsmen have failed. If another 20-25 runs were scored, there would have been a better chance of winning.

Posted by samincolumbia on (December 26, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

Dhoni must have demanded Sir Jadeja be included if the management wanted to 'rest' Ashwin. I remember those years when he used to be in all ODI matches fora year or two with zero contribution from him and still managed to find a place in the team. Now that he is back, expect the trend to continue for another year or so before he along with Dhoni is booted from the team.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

DHONI shows a reason for every failure. He should stop reasoning every single thing . and start showing results. All those boys are talented no doubt about it. He needs to play according to the situation.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

Ashwin better spend your time improving your spin bowling skills. Don't forget, Monty Panesar who is coming back to international cricket, performed better than you in India. So, you would do good to improve your skills, and be better prepared to face australia in tests in India. That is perhaps your biggest test. So, please talk to experts like Anil Kumble or Muralidharan or Venkataraghavan etc.., you need to improve on your strike rate. Stop comparing either yourself with Fernando Torres or stop comparing the present Indian cricket team with the class of Chelsea. Stop talking to media, let your spin bowling talk.

Posted by cricjaffa on (December 26, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

Please drop Gambhir, Jadeja, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma and include Rayudu in place of Rohit, Uthappa for Gambhir, Ashwin in for Jadeja and any new face in place of Ishant. We had enough of these non performing players....

Posted by legsidewide on (December 26, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

@Dhaval Patel funny that you talk of getting facts right - go look up Pak v India head to head records then come back and see if you can make that same claim again. Indian fans have such a hard time believing they lose more than they win against Pakistan

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Dear Indian Selectors, Its time to remove Dhoni, how many firsts we have to accept before we take any action. How much low would India's recors reach before any action? Losing first time in India in a decade. Losing First time a T-20 to Pakistan. Getting back to back white washes (4-0 against England ? ) first time in quite a few years. He is just not up to it anymore. Guess, with Vira Kohli at helm we could have accepted these losses saying that he is new but what about Dhoni. India seems to have lost that desire to win under laid back captaincy of Dhoni...

Posted by Thandi77 on (December 26, 2012, 14:31 GMT)

In response to Adit Kothari. Irfan Pathan is currently out injured along with U Yadav, V Aaron, P Kumar and possibly L Balaji too. Agree with you on Sehwag who in my book should definetly be in T20 side in place of Gambhir who looks out of sorts at the moment. I would like to see R Uthappa & Y Pathan in T20 side too.

Posted by riki1989 on (December 26, 2012, 14:31 GMT)

For all the Ashwin bashers here it is. Ashwin ranks No.5 in ODI Bowler rankings & No.6 in Test All-Rounder rankings. coming to T20, he bowls mostly in Powerplay & death ovrs. Can u tell any spinner consistently bowling in powerplays. In the recently concluded World T20, Overall his Economy is 6.00 where he continously bowled in pp & death overs. So all cant expect him to perform all the match. Every bowler has a lean period or the batsmen will quickly score with a bit of luck.. I know Ashwin is not a brilliant fielder but he is not a bad fielder. So stop blabbering about ashwin

Posted by cricfan4july on (December 26, 2012, 14:27 GMT)

Congrats Pakistan. Hafeez played real well. Malik was just riding on his luck. Loved the way B.Kumar bowled, can't wait to see him more. Weakest link in indian team was Jadeja yesterday. He is a good fielder - agreed. But he is neither a batsman nor a great bowler. He is who can just contain - not leak runs on his best day. And T20 needs impact players or decent players who do their job consistently. I don't say Ashwin would have won the match for us if he played but he is a better choice. Anyways, it might be good that Ashwin got benched as he started taking his place for granted.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:27 GMT)

It means they are going to relax and lose. Hey Professor, you should know that omission of one player from a team means nothing, except psychologically. Team is about team, and the team that clicks better that day, would win.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

Ashwin has not performed good enough in previous two three series, so if even ashwin could have been bowling last over, India wont have won match either. Besides why dhoni is still picking jadeja and rohit continuously for so long time is still ambiguous. where is PRAGYAN OJHA ... why the selectors have not chosen him inspite of his so good performances in test series..

Posted by Sumit83 on (December 26, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

To All, Irfan Pathan is injured , so is yusuf pathan, both are not playing in ranji as well.. Sreesanth started playin ranji last week only, he was injured as well. Praveen kumar is not playing for UP ranji as well.. Balaji and Vinay are also injured. They were selected for Eng T20 but got injured and were replaced..

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

It was stupid to include Jadeja even on foresight He has yet to prove himself and his batting towards the end is of little use Its best to take a blower who can get wickets or turn the ball or have variation The lack of left handers doesnt matter in 20-20 unlike ODIs Ashwin should replace him He is a thinking cricketer Dinda bowls without using his head He needs to give way for Shami Ahmed Irfan is mediocre and doesnt measure up to this level He has had his chances

Posted by Sanchid on (December 26, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Hafeez knows Ashwin is in poor form... So if Ashwin is included in d squad it would be easy for opponents to attack him... Moreover team like Pakistan is good in playing spin... Hafeez jz praises Ashwin n fools back to bring him in, which would make them easier to attack.... But remember my dear Pakistani boys, he is not the kind of player you think, who mite be d easiest to attack in a poor form... He is manufactured to bounce back at any time!!!!!

Posted by raj_gt on (December 26, 2012, 14:17 GMT)

Sir jadeja missed his triple century hear by 298 runs....

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:15 GMT)

simply Hafeez wanted the inclusion of Ashwin in next match and treatment will be more worst than Jadja ...U are Mind Blowing Professor

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

Guys, Pakistan batted superbly, with a lot of maturity. Cool Hafeez and Cool Shoiab. Look how cool Hafeez and Shoiab were they, even when they have started hitting sixes, because they knew they have a job to finish. On the contrary look at the arrogance of Yuvi look how he smiled when he hit a first ball six. Hafeez,Shoiab, Pak pacers made the difference.Let US PRAISE pakistan for a superb performance

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 14:07 GMT)

It was the batting failure that cost India the game. There was no issues in the bowling in my opinion. They picked a batting heavy side and they were obviously looking to score big..something like 160+ if that had happen, India would have won even with these part timers. Well played Pakistan, they were way better in bowling, and Malik and Hafeez played a very well calculated innings to get their side home.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

It was a good match, both teams stumbled and squandered their chances several times. It is amusing that every time a team loses scapegoats have to be found - if Pakistan had lost the first three batsmen would have been blamed but barely get a mention in the comments now!!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

The team combination was pathetic!Don't know who selects the final XI! There is no proper planning and strategy! Are Duncan fletcher and his team on a paid holiday!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

Where is Irfan Pathan? Why has Sehwag been dropped? Is Dhoni having an affair with Jadeja or is Jadeja sleeping with Srinivasan? Why are they so hell bent on picking Jadeja when neither does he ever perform with the bat nor the ball? I wish to know why is the press not commenting on the Indian team selection?

Posted by devprasad2011 on (December 26, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

indian lost cos of their batting..they just throw away their wickets trying to make big rungs...they could have just milked 1 and 2 , it would have been big runs that way also..anyway i have to say very well played pakistan... and of course it is a close game...

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

In a team lead by Dhno, players like Irfan Pathan or Shami Ahmed won't much chance. A single failure on their part is enough to dump them from the team. Whereas Dhoni is giving infinite chances to Sharmas (Rohit&Ishanth), and Jadeja

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

During the match, everybody is talking about 5th bowler. Well, if Jadeja is not a fulltime bowler and in batting he comes at no.8 in a 20-20, why is he in the team. But he gets the ball for the last over. He replaces Ashwin for the match.

After the 4th test, Dhoni praises Jadeja though he failed with the bat and did not take any significant wickets. Its a joke.

During Ganguly-era, Ganguly used to back players who were world class and he helped build a team for the next decade. Look at Sehwag, Zaheer, Yuvraj, Harbhajan.

Dhoni is backing players like Chawla, Jadeja and even Rohit Sharma who are not consistent.

What happened to RP Singh Praveen Kumar Balaji Vinay Kumar Irfan Pathan or even Sreesanth Amit Mishra

who bowled so well in the past.

Posted by Lahorian_Ruluez on (December 26, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

I am surprised at INDIAN commentators,,,especially the likes of Mr S Gavaskar: that he ironically bypassed all chances to praise Pakistani Batting/Bowling !!! At least we should be MAN enough to praise the good game played by any TEAM !! SIMLPLY INDIA was outplayed by the Brilliance of Pakistanis yesterday! There's no need to go any further. AS india had the BEST of the LOT players! You cannot debate more on that! So let Dhoni enjoy his last decade of captaincy !! Overall the match was WON by both teams at different stages but FINAL outcome is what matters the most !!! Good luck to both TEAMS !! :)

Posted by wakaPAK on (December 26, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

It's funny; in another discussion on cricinfo every Indian is blaming Dhoni for not playing Ashwin in the match but if Hafeez says it just to analyse the match as a cricketer, he has to have some ulterior motive behind it.

Posted by wasim_007 on (December 26, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Match winner is Afridi he changed the complex of game.....

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Firstly a spinner should not have bowled the last over if they had no choice then Yuvraj should have bowled the last over....

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Time to recall bhajji and drop jadeja aswin is not good bowler against good team he only godd fore bangaldesh or westindies please give bhajji chance.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

Dear all fans! Congrates Pakistan but don't forget Its cricket. Today Pakistan won, or tomorrow India! Keep sprit alive and back the decisions whether Dhoni or Hafiz. Pakistan played well, India tried hard and taken match to 2nd last ball. Both team commit mistakes but one team had to won. Love you Indian and love you Pakistanis! Arif from Karachi!

Posted by palla.avinash on (December 26, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

leaving ashwin is a good thing they should have gone with extra bowler that rohit sharma a pace bowler.mind games by hafeez to get in to team to have advantage for hi right hand batsmen team in 2nd t20 game india should get another seamer instead of rohit sharma/jedeja.

Posted by OhhhhhMattyMatty on (December 26, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

And like Torres, Ashwin is very overrated and can't do a great deal but succeed against poor teams!

Posted by Alok505 on (December 26, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

Problem is that in our domestic level all the state teams producing left arm spinners . I am amazed just look the list . Mumbai have Harrmeet singh , Abdullah & Chavan, karnatak have apanna, Delhi Vikash Mishra & Pawan Negi , Punjab have Bipul Shamra, Maharastra have Darekar , Baroda have Bhargav bhatt, MP have Ankit Sharma, Up have Ali Murtza , Orissa have Dheeraj Singh, Jharkhand have S nadeem, Assam A Konwar, Hyderbad P Ojha, Railway have veteran Murli Kartik , Saurastra have overrated Jadeja....all left arm spinners barring 3 /4 guys all are ordinary . but still playing . Its had to understand why so many lefty spinners .It is also a bit worry for selectors .

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

2nd consecutive loss on a SIX... not good for the Indian Psyche... although neither case they were thrashed... both close games (against England and Pakistan)... What a bowl to get rid of Umar Akmal thouhg!!! This series was to help India prepare for England ODIs, but the watching England team would have seen how to play Yuvi from back of teh crease and will negate his threat in the coming series...

Posted by Bond2008 on (December 26, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

The biggest blunder was playing only 3 bowlers !! ... Are 7 batsmen not enough for 20 overs ?? on top of that dhoni did not keep 1 over of Kumar for last overs ! he overused first fast bowlers till 9th over and then continued with spinners till 15th !

Posted by zanidaf on (December 26, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Ashwin is a better batsman than Jadeja as well :)

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

Listen there r a lot of over-hyped players in soccer premier leagues also (compared to the professionals i mean) who get twice their amount they get from their national side/country. Why the double standard when it comes to cricket and cricket leagues! Let it be! Everyone knows the ipl league doesnt showcase the best players! so does the soccer premier league! Get some clarity please and think. Let the game grow! be it in india or bangladesh or rwanda for gods sake!. But hey b4 i end,..pakistan..how about that series win eh :P. Hihi. hey @ Y.Raza, ..."Correct!"" and spot on!. @Maddooxx, heh tks man! ;).

Posted by 777aditya on (December 26, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Superb mind games being played by Hafeez! Dhoni is in a soup and Hafeez did not waste his chance of rubbing salt to Dhoni's wounds. With this comment, Hafeez might also manage to pressurize Ashwin in his likely comeback match in the next game as he will be forced to perform. Chatur Hafeez!

Posted by Darshi007 on (December 26, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Ridiculous statements by Dhoni. He has always overestimated the caliber of the Pakistan batsman for playing spin and underestimated his own spinners. If your front line spinner is not good enough to play against an opposition how do you expect 2 part timers to bowl 8 of the 20 overs against them. He did the same mistake of not picking Ashwin the the WC semi-final and got away with it due to the absurd batting of Misbah ul Haq that day. So,Dhoni means to say that unless a team has about 3 or 4 left handed batsman in the top 7 the off-spinner has no role to play. Also Ashwin has a lot of variations, it is not like he would bowl conventional off-spin to right-handers always. Pathetic team selection to say the least. In A T-20 game why does one require to play 8 specialist batsman !!! And the irony is still end up scoring 133 when the openers have already played out the first 10 overs without any damage and with 75 runs on the board. Fresh ideas and a new captain needed. Enough of excuses

Posted by SamRoy on (December 26, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

Dhoni is a terrible thinker. Forget Ashwin, what is the point of playing Jadeja in Bangalore? Not a single ball will spin and he can never score score quickly against quality bowling. Jadeja is good only for test cricket only when India needs a third spinner. And he can come and bat an No. 8 (Ashwin must bat ahead of Dhoni.) Something good came out from this loss for India though. We got suitable replacement for Praveen Kumar.

Posted by pandez on (December 26, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

As of now we understand that whatever Dhoni does he will justify it even if he is wrong. Leaving Ashwin as he is one of the Top bowlers in a combination of one of the most fragile bowling line up do not make a sense. Dhoni is doing everything which can harm the reputation of the Indian Team. wow. We can also say he is playing with the game as well as playing the game. Learn from Mumbai cricket where a crucial Drop catch resulted in dropping of Iqbal Abdullah. Play a game of cricket Mr Dhoni with your Indian Team with Mumbai Team and they will show you where you stand.

Posted by AbAdvani on (December 26, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

There's not much to choose between Ashwin and Jadeja -the runs that Ashwin may save through his bowling are offset by Jadeja's brilliant fielding. It's time Dhoni started to show confidence in Indian medium pacers -for a change, let him play Ranji trophy and back promising Indian bowlers -there are quite a few -Pankaj Singh, Ishwar Pandey, Shami Ahmed who have been performing well -throw them in the T20 match and see how good they are. Dhoni -be your own man and Stop playing favorites by picking CSK team -its the Indian team that you are captaining and you are answerable to the nation, not to the proprietor of CSK/ BCCI President.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@dhaval patel hahahah india has always dominated pakistan team?? are u sure?? yes they have dominated pakistan team only in world cups. go on check overall records in tests and odis u will find a huge lie in ur statement!! and also yesterday pak registered its first t20 win against india and which is going to be the start of a great run against inida in t20 format as well!! check the overall stats before uttering ribbish !!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

I don't understand why people are after Hafeez for terming Ashwin as world class. It should be borne by those who comment that neither Panesar nor Swann are part of England T20 team . England have sensibly left these players out to ensure that these players are left to practice their art in Tests. In any case,the world itself appears to be short of Good off spinners and hence Ashwin is certainly athe cog in the wheel of India team and it is another bad decision by Dhoni to replace Ashwin with Jadeja. Jadeja is only good enough to play Ranji matches and let the selectors confine Jadeja to Ranji arena only.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (December 26, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@Andrew27994, people are blaming jadeja not because he has to bowl the last over, but because he has been preferred over some of the more talented and opportunity deprived youngsters which are consistently overlooked due to the presence of Sir Ravinder Jadeja. Shami Ahmad should have been given a chance yesterday itself.I am sure he will be dropped for the next series without being given a chance.Even Awana could have been given a chance in the bowling friendly conditions to have an exact measure of him.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

Hahaha, ouch I feel bad for Jadeja.

Posted by kashi52 on (December 26, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

More than not playing Ashwin, playing so many batsman in 20/20 game makes no sense. Rohit Sharma comes in at 17th over - what is he supposed to do ?

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Indian team is chennai super king....except few which cant be omitted for e.g. kohli n youvraj......

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

There are many ifs, buts, this and that ... but Pakistan wins first T20 is fact and remains there. An early loss of Hafeez or Malik would have shifted the match completely towards India. Both teams are passing through building process of younger team - nothing should be taken as granted. Well done Pakistan and both teams should keep the spirit of meeting each other again and agian for the benefit of cricket game alone.

Posted by sachinisawesome on (December 26, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

@sony_sr That's what he has done, But he was asked why did he pick Jadeja ahead of Ashwin so he had to tell the reason. He wasn't asked who takes the responsibility of this loss. So this is not an excuse.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

so mr ashwin u think you are fernando torres lolz

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

Now some indian fans please tell me why do you pay jadeja over $2M. When he is not even a world class player? I think you definitely understands that IPL is over ratted and see england are allowing their players to play in BPL but at the sane time they are barring them from IPL. Look at your national team now. Its all because your so called IPL N so called your over ratted superstars but in quality of players is under ratted. You will never produce greats like TGDLK bcoz of your IPL.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

Its not a big fault if teams want to try out different players since its better to try players now at bilateral ties rather than be stranded at important matches like World T20, etc Ravindra Jadeja needs to justify his selection since he has been average in recent past in international matches. Bhuvanesh Kumar's selection was a good move while Dhoni needs to consider when to use Ashok Dinda.

Posted by Baundele on (December 26, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

People need to understand that Jadeja is the most valuable player in the IPL. Leaving him out is bad marketing.

Posted by andrew27994 on (December 26, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

I can't understand why everyone is blaming Jadeja for India's loss just because he had to bowl the last over. The turning point of the match was when Kohli was made to bowl. He took the pressure off the Pakistani batsmen. And since then all the spinners were taken to the cleaner including Yuvraj. And I think it is fair that Ashwin was dropped from the last game. In the next match, I would prefer Chawla over Ashwin/ Jadeja because at least he has the courage to toss the ball up and could at least pick some wickets if not contain. In both the T20Is and the 4th Test against England, Chawla outperformed Ashwin in bowling. So consider Chawla ahead of Ashwin.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

Yes, I think India made a blunder in their team selection. Kumar was a gamble, yes it worked but u need a balanced side for such matches. Ishant was also a mistake. Irfan in his place would have provided an additional prop especially when Indians wickets we falling in the last 5 overs.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (December 26, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

Wow!!! Ashwin comparing himself with Fernando Torres....... LOL. The comment itself is both ridiculous and hilarious at the same time!Dear Ashwin don't make yourself a laughing stock among the fans and please try to gain some form which is completely lost in your awe of that so called "Carrom Ball".And where is that "Mystery Ball"which you promised to unearthed during England Series????

Posted by Y.Raza on (December 26, 2012, 11:54 GMT)

@ Dhaval Patel: Please get your records re-checked and see the difference of matches pakistan has won against idea compared to india against pakistan. Yes, for last for years india has got upper hand.

Posted by Shazli on (December 26, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

Rahane-fan: look at your facts... comparing a person who has played 40 innings with McCullum, Smith, Tatel & medis who has just play 34,21,18,21 innings respectively.......don't comment again.....like that

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

i am a from pakistan and i must say that ashwin is an important part of indian team in past 2 to 3 years,in world cup specially he played an important spell to win the match for india vs pakistan in semi final,

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

Simple India was one special bowler short for the match and kholi bowled two consecutive overs that released the pressure from pak batsman. Honestly pakistan is a more balanced side.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

Dhoni relies too much on his part time bowlers. In spite of India losing the match due to part timers bowling, he is still saying he could have bowled Raina or Rohit as well. Having many part timers won't win you games, you need regular bowlers to do the job.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

i think hafeez was sarcastic here by saying ashwin is world class..if he is world class,he shud have taken more wickets against england in the tests recently..to be frank, ashwin is just average and unfortunately our lone spinner playing all d 3 formats

Posted by Shazli on (December 26, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

Can't understand Ashwin is world class bolwer.....how come..... he is only IPL class bowler not world class....

Posted by sony_sr on (December 26, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

Problem with dhoni is he is always trying to defend his decisions when it goes wrong. Dude you are the captain and you have the right to pick the players you want. 1 bad day does not change that global rule. What if jadeja bowled 3 good balls at the end and india won? Take bold decisions and stand by it. That is what we expect from our captain.

Posted by pratit on (December 26, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

Whether Ashwin is world class is not the real question. Captain Dhoni should instead be asked his justification for including Jadeja ahead of Ashwin. It is only justified if this was a wake-up call to Ashwin not to take his place in the team for granted, because Ashwin is both a better bowler and a better batsman than Jadeja

Posted by yogsingh on (December 26, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

I agree with "ravikb" Hafeez just wants to get his hands on Ashwin , he -judging by his current performances -can not be called world class .

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:38 GMT)

India should avail the option of Chawla becauase Pakistani Team always having a problem in facing Leggi or it would also be better to take Pathan in place of Dinda coz Irfan pathan having a great track record against Pakistan.

Posted by flavoidastic on (December 26, 2012, 11:37 GMT)

Such is the ego of our players..Ashwin thinks himself to be equivalent to Torres!!Amusing...

Posted by Sharbigma on (December 26, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Hafeez should not have given away his strategy like this. If this REALLY was the strategy

Posted by Sohailch on (December 26, 2012, 11:35 GMT)

i think,india need a leg spinner instead of Jadeja.

Posted by flavoidastic on (December 26, 2012, 11:34 GMT)

haha calling Ashwin a world class bowler is like calling Ravindra Jadeja a world class batsman!! Ashwin's economy is quite poor as is his wicket column. However, due to lack of options he makes the cut.

Posted by nkoch on (December 26, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

Ashwin world class? Pak captain does have good sense of humor. On other hand, Ashwin is a far better bowler and batsman than over hyped over paid over rated Jadeja. Time to show him the door.

Posted by SMNaveed on (December 26, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

Only Difference in match in Ashwin!!! if he is the team then Pakistan suffering mentally presuure...NAVEED

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

people who say Ashwin is not world class- he has troubled the great, Afridi isnt word class, and afridi's batting stinks, "BOOOM BOOM"; some people need to go and get their facts right... India have always dominated Pakistan...

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:31 GMT)

pakistan deserves the win n they got it.welldone.but they have 2 do something to take on young B kumar in ahmadabad.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

why Hafeez judgement. that is not matter for haffez.

Posted by Teja_Smart on (December 26, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

@Haffez n Pak: I wonder why PAK is still continuing Afridi in team. He was failing in bating from a long long time. Now a days, he's not showing any impact in bowling also. As Ajmal is looking good, He's(Afridi) just bowling some overs. That's all. No use.

Haffez: Please concentrate on your spinner. Later, u can judge other team spinners.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

if you have 3 good bowlers and 2-3 part time bowlers you can fight it out in 20X20. India should have had a bowler whom the opposition fears..that was ashwin ..pak captain has revealed it..Bhuvaneshwar kumar was a surprise success...with his early success if we had had ashwin pak could have been pulped. But the main reason for the defeat we have forgotten is our batsmen flopped. Except the openers none showed guts to stay and bash the ball...Why dhoni doesnot say anything about this??

Posted by bagyasubash on (December 26, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

First of all this poor strategy, from our side to play without specialist spinners. it was very clear the way hafeez and shoib malik clearly understood our bowling strength and played brilliantly. We lacked the strategy big time. Whole world knows Ashwin's ability with bat and ball and variations he offers. Jadeja was easily hit and they executed their plan brilliantly. What's our batting line upto..?we have failed in test, only this guy proved and saved our country..why not give promote him up.in batting...poor rahane..got chance almost warming up close to 1 yr..i dont' know what prevents us if someone proved with bat and considered as T 20 specialst getting dropped.for important match...for left armers with no variations..only god helps..Dhoni's tactics..:(

Posted by maddooxx on (December 26, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

agree with Aby Prasad. Only Pakistan can help India now. Utter rubbish thinking by Dhoni by considering jadeja to be a better bowler than Ashwin (forget bout batting coz no one is a batsman if batting at no 8). Hope the think tank really thinks this time before deciding on the playing 11.

Posted by procric on (December 26, 2012, 11:27 GMT)

Drop Dhoni. Ask koheli to lead and see the difference.

Posted by kc69 on (December 26, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

Excited to see Bhuvaneshwar Kumar...surprising that nobody is talking about him.

Posted by him1618 on (December 26, 2012, 11:22 GMT)

I fail to see what Jadeja has done in the past many years to merit a place in any side. Ranji Trophy form notwithstanding, he has repeatedly failed on the big stage, often being detrimental to India's chances. High time we gave Rayudu a chance. Also, Dhoni must realize that one cannot rely on part-timers all the time. We need Ashwin (and ideally Ojha to play).

Posted by FRRR on (December 26, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

Ashwin is not world class. Hafeez is giving to much credit to him. Pakistan should focus on winning the series.

Posted by yuvi4132 on (December 26, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

Now its time for Dhoni to realize that cricket is a team game where you need specialists to do their job whether its batsman or bowler. there is no point is favoring anyone or saving anyone. you can not win matches with 3 bowlers (B kumar, Ishant, Dinda) in T20 one over can change the course of game and he is expecting his part timers to bowl 8 overs in the game....in yesterday's match one of the frontline spinner either Piyush or Ashwin should have been played. let them do their job. and if you feel they are not capable enough then why BCCI is selecting them. I personally believes that one can not win a game with 3 frontline bowlers which are not world class.....

Posted by ravikb on (December 26, 2012, 11:15 GMT)

Hafeez is just tempting Dhoni to pick Ashwin in the next match by calling him world class. To be honest, Ashwin has never been a world class bowler. People who saw the recent series against England will agree. He was mediocre, at best, against historically weak players of spin bowling.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

The fact of the matter is, you just cannot play an international match with all part time spinners. What Hafeez has said is just right.

Posted by T.R.GHANCHI on (December 26, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

Lets refrain from giving any strong comment about the opposition Hafeez. Still 4 games to go and he is talking as if he has won the series.

I am a Pakistani fan but let cricket do the talking guys. Indian cricket team are not bunch of gali crickets who wouldn't formulate a strategy! They would defiantly come harder.

I would want one more calm and smarter batsman in Pakistan line up instead of Umar Akmal and try Junaid khan in place of Sohail Tanver .

Posted by fr600 on (December 26, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

Pakistan need not worry about any Indian spinner, or I should say bowler.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

Happy that Pakistan won , congrats you deserved it! I have a slightly selfish desire also :P . I wish Pakistan can win a few more matches . This would lead to the only thing that can help India and after Aus, Eng and Eng again, only Pak can hit the nail on the coffin for that 'one' thing that can improve India and if pakistan wins ... and that is 'CHANGE'. Pakistan victory is the only thing that can finally bring change to the Indian team.I hope pakistan can help us..also in the process pakistanis can be proud of a great series win too! And to my indian fans, please dont start...Im done with that and this, only change can take us forward, not keep the same team forever!

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

Hafeez thinks Ashwin is world class??... A world class spinner who can bowl only against low rank opponents and gets thrashed big time against top class opponents.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

IND has to go with Bajji instead of Ashwin in T20's. Coz he's an experienced one as well as a clean hitter. But unfortunately, He's not in IND squad for this series.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:03 GMT)

even hafeez knows it was not a good judgement to leave ash...

Posted by Krasheed on (December 26, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

Well done Pakistan.....Nice attempt by Skipper to have another bowler to have a go at him...These guys are only good for IPL not for International Cricket...How many more defeats they want to understand....No Hope

Posted by svel on (December 26, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

@ aswhin bashers - - u guys don know the value of him in the team... he is used in the powerplays and when the match gets tough he is called on to bowl but still he gets u wickets and bowls very economically... even other country players knows ashwin better than indian supporters...

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

come on pakistan let,s rool indian team all over the place in next game and win the series

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

play jadeja and ashwin.. drop rohit sharma.. waste of a place...

Posted by khurramsch on (December 26, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

Ashwin or no ashwin , i dont see any logoc to play 7 batsman & jadeja at no 8 in a t20 game & going with only 3 proper bowlers & yuvraj as 4th. 2nd dhoni bowled B Kumar early which was a mistake. at 12/3 surely pak was not going to hit virat/raina/jadeja that time. could have sneaked 1/2 cheap overs there & kept proper bowlwer at end.

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

I agree with Hafeez. Result could be different if Ashwin was in indian team, he is not in good form but still can take wickets and control the run rate. He proved himself a good batsman as well in recent test match against Engalnd.

Posted by Shazli on (December 26, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

I tell u wat....In Next T2o Ashwin will be in but India will be out class by Pakistan....

Posted by Ahsan-cric-freak on (December 26, 2012, 10:51 GMT)

Ashwin would have also been ineffective against calm and stable malik-Hafiz stand!

Posted by naveed.attari on (December 26, 2012, 10:46 GMT)

come on pakistan we love you fight again you win or loss we will love you

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (December 26, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

Honestly, fans have been a little harsh on Jadeja. Here is a statistical analysis comparing Jadeja with other all-round spinners in ODIs:

Ravindra Jadeja (Inn- 40, Runs- 860, Avg- 29, SR- 79.. Wkts- 57, Avg- 38, Eco- 4.9)

Nathan McCullum (Inn- 34, Runs- 626, Avg- 20, SR- 83.. Wkts- 28, Avg- 45, Eco- 4.9)

Steven Smith (Inn- 21, Runs- 372, Avg- 21, SR- 87.. Wkts- 22, Avg- 35, Eco- 5.2)

Samit Patel (Inn- 18, Runs- 407, Avg- 31, SR- 89.. Wkts- 23, Avg- 42, Eco- 5.5)

Jeevan Mendis (Inn- 21, Runs- 364, Avg- 24, SR- 84.. Wkts- 22, Avg- 32, Eco- 4.8)

Posted by naveed.attari on (December 26, 2012, 10:43 GMT)

pak won b/c they bowl well than india and creadit goes to saeed ajmal who takes two big wikets with beauty dohni and raina both plyers were dengreous finally .....it is all about LUCk

Posted by   on (December 26, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

Dhoni needs to come out of his lame excuses, he is supporting Jadeja without any logical reason

Posted by LillianThomson on (December 26, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

Wow.

A pretty unsubtle attempt by Hafeez to talk the mediocre Ashwin into the Indian team! I'm sure that they'd love to face an innocuous spinner who is a good but very slow batsman.

I'll be pretty surprised if the Indians are gullible enough to fall for that piece of manipulation.

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