India v West Indies, 1st Test, New Delhi, 2nd day November 7, 2011

Sehwag blames 'soft dismissals' not pitch

Virender Sehwag said the Test against West Indies was evenly balanced, despite India collapsing to 209 and conceding a first-innings lead of 95 on the second day
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Unlike India's innings, which went around in dizzying circles, Virender Sehwag's explanation for the failure did not. What transpired on the second day against West Indies at the Kotla looked, on scoreline alone, a repeat of what kept happening on the tour of England. This time on supposedly friendlier and more welcoming territory.

In their previous 15 innings India have scored more than 300 only once. During the collapses in England, only one at Trent Bridge was shorter than the 52.5 overs India's batsmen faced at the Kotla. In Delhi, they got to 100 in the 16th over and then lost 9 for 109.

For the first hour it looked like normal service was restored: Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir took their chances, flayed the bowling, and the crowd at the Kotla kept building. In the two-and-a-half hours following Gambhir's departure it was as though the England tour was being relived, but without dangerous swing or chest-high inquiry from an attack capable of aggression and control. The pitch played slow and got lower, and while West Indies' bowlers were energised, they were far from their lethal forefathers of a few decades ago. It is why 109 for 9 is a reflection on India's batsmen, and not the wicket they batted on.

Sehwag, India's top-scorer, tossed aside all crutches of comfort about the performance. "The wicket was good. Nobody got out because of the wicket. A lot of the dismissals can be called soft dismissals. It's a good wicket to bat on, keeping a bit low, but it's still a good wicket to bat on."

Praise be for Sehwag's plain speaking. He may have said it to stay confident about batting last, but a reality check never hurt anyone. India had begun before lunch as though the pitch was one of the many toll roads being built in Delhi's National Capital Region, scoring at just under eight an over, lashing boundaries and splitting fields. Sehwag, who only just fully recovered from his shoulder surgery, warmed up well for the season and, with Gambhir, turned over the strike and the scoreboard. "We were not forcing ourselves to play quickly, it just happened," Sehwag said. "They were bowling on our legs and sometimes outside off-stump, we were just hitting normal shots."

Gambhir's dismissal, run out while backing up too far, was unfortunate but everything that followed, as Sehwag said, was just soft. "It happens in Test cricket. Suddenly Gautam got run out and then I got out, and then Tendulkar and Laxman. All are soft dismissals. When one wicket falls, you sometimes lose concentration and you get out, and then it is not easy for the middle order. They don't know what's happening, how much bounce there is in the wicket. There was a little bit of reverse-swing. So it will take time." Collapses, he said repeatedly, happen, except India must prove that this repeated occurrence is not a 1990s rut they have fallen into.

Playing crowd-pleasing shots at the Kotla, Sehwag said, was difficult once the ball got softer. "In India, you will get wickets like that. We are not complaining about anything. We have to be patient. Wait for the bad ball and put it away for four." The India batsmen made that rudimentary instruction appear like rocket science all afternoon.

Any criticism of the pitch must be tempered with the fact that West Indies, with inexperienced batsmen in opposition conditions, hung around for 108.2 overs to scratch their way to 304. India's batsmen, however, did not hunker down long enough to wear out the bowlers, barring, of course, the habitual redeemer Rahul Dravid, who along with Sehwag and Gambhir, was the only other India batsman past 25. As partner after partner arrived and departed, no one would have blamed Dravid for closing his eyes and dreaming of England.

This Test is India's chance to renew its bouncebackability, which was flattened in England this summer. Just over a year ago, that quality was India's fingerprint in Test cricket. The last time they won a Test at home after trailing in the first innings and batting fourth was against Australia in Mohali. Eight men from that team are still around and cricketers never forget their best jailbreaks.

India are not in jail yet, but are not completely free from their shackles either. "We will have to be careful in the second innings, and we will not repeat the same mistakes, and chase whatever target they give us," Sehwag said

When Sehwag was told West Indies wanted to set 400, he said with scarcely disguised disdain: "We thought we would make 1000 runs in the first innings. But to say and to do are two different things. Anyone can say what they want."

India would want to dismiss West Indies for fewer than 150 to set up a chase of around 250. "I think the match is evenly balanced," Sehwag said. "It's not as if the wicket is very bad for batting. Even now it is a good track but to score runs is not very easy, when the ball is reversing a bit or keeping low. Therefore the batsman's thinking becomes a bit defensive because the ball doesn't come off the wicket as well as he would expect it to. If tomorrow we can get them out quickly, then I will say we perhaps have the upper hand."

India must now bridge the gap between saying and doing. There is time and there is capability. At home, they always have belief. What they need is a result to reinforce it.

Sharda Ugra is senior editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • goinguns on November 10, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    I am not saying test cricket is for no one, I think a 3 day version is much more interesting, maybe, try variations with two half innings each time.. kinda like baseball... that will also eliminate the condition of the pitch affecting the outcome of the match too much... which is why I think the innings should be split because sometimes its all about the winning the toss.

  • goinguns on November 10, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    thanks for all the nice replies to my comments. here's what I am saying (I am not saying this on your behalf, everyone is only saying what they think) there needs to be a balance. for me T20 games suck, I hardly even watch it, but there is a market for that.. I do love watching ODIs and not because India won the world cup but because it provides to me the right balance, it has the ideal number of overs for the batsmen to set in and feel the pitch it has a good number of overs for a bowler to play with the batsmen's minds... it has a good variations of field restrictions, power plays etc... and it last 7 hours, infact, I watch most of the game when I watch and ODI

    but I think test is a little too long (its 5 days) and it gets very very boring most of the time... tour de france and marathon is not same, it's the not the same logic, those things are only about persistence and longevity, in cricket, every bowl is being bowled differently, not in marathon,... contd...

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 8, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    @sabee66. At the end of the day, India bolwed them out less than 200 and going to win the match. Is it enough?

  • cool2cool on November 8, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    @MENDIS_Forever: So where was the Pak-SL test series played, on bouncy-swinging pitches?

  • cool2cool on November 8, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    @Mitcher: 2007 Sydney test, more than bad umpiring, the behaviour of OZ players was disappointing. For eg. Ponting claiming the bump catch, Ponting signalling the umpire out & umpire accepting it without referring it to third umpire when Clake took a low catch. BTW if Aus were world beaters, why they have won just a single test series in India since 1996. Can we call them "Fast track bullies"?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 8, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    @Mitcher, I completely disagree with you. What happened in Sydney wasn't cricket. It was a disgrace to cricket and Kumble didn't mix his words. Rightly so. Oh yes, that was a win, a win for Australia which they would do better without. It's not just the Indians, many in Australia were genuinely concerned with that thuggery and cheating. Wonder how pointing at the incidents in that disgraceful test match is moaning?! I just think you are being very cold and irresponsible there. As a cricket fan, that win will always be a black mark in the history of Australian Cricket and Ponting. It surprises me that, to put India down, a disgraceful test match is being compared with a couple of bad decisions (that went against both the teams) in the ongoing test match. Wow!

  • ste13 on November 8, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    @goinguns: with this rationale, Tour de France (cycling) should also be scrapped - it is too long and nobode can follow it; sorry there is many sports that go for more than 1 hour; take also example of marathon running - this is also boring to watch, but it is an achievement to win, so I hope it will be continued, with cricket any overdose is killing the game and it applies to all forms; for test cricket - you do not have to see every bowl bowled to understand and follow the match; I would still seek solutions to reduce number of games being drawn with negative tactics and flat wickets just as in the last Pak-SL game

  • on November 8, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    @ Eliya Abbas Syed: mate, may i remind u ......Pakistan is playing in DEAD Batsman pitches!!!

  • ATIMAYANK on November 8, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    @sabee66: I guess you missed the series in the West Indies :D

  • Ravi_kumar_Kinnera on November 8, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    Varun Aron has to wait for 7 test matches to his test match debut... he did the same for ODI debut...

  • goinguns on November 10, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    I am not saying test cricket is for no one, I think a 3 day version is much more interesting, maybe, try variations with two half innings each time.. kinda like baseball... that will also eliminate the condition of the pitch affecting the outcome of the match too much... which is why I think the innings should be split because sometimes its all about the winning the toss.

  • goinguns on November 10, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    thanks for all the nice replies to my comments. here's what I am saying (I am not saying this on your behalf, everyone is only saying what they think) there needs to be a balance. for me T20 games suck, I hardly even watch it, but there is a market for that.. I do love watching ODIs and not because India won the world cup but because it provides to me the right balance, it has the ideal number of overs for the batsmen to set in and feel the pitch it has a good number of overs for a bowler to play with the batsmen's minds... it has a good variations of field restrictions, power plays etc... and it last 7 hours, infact, I watch most of the game when I watch and ODI

    but I think test is a little too long (its 5 days) and it gets very very boring most of the time... tour de france and marathon is not same, it's the not the same logic, those things are only about persistence and longevity, in cricket, every bowl is being bowled differently, not in marathon,... contd...

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 8, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    @sabee66. At the end of the day, India bolwed them out less than 200 and going to win the match. Is it enough?

  • cool2cool on November 8, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    @MENDIS_Forever: So where was the Pak-SL test series played, on bouncy-swinging pitches?

  • cool2cool on November 8, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    @Mitcher: 2007 Sydney test, more than bad umpiring, the behaviour of OZ players was disappointing. For eg. Ponting claiming the bump catch, Ponting signalling the umpire out & umpire accepting it without referring it to third umpire when Clake took a low catch. BTW if Aus were world beaters, why they have won just a single test series in India since 1996. Can we call them "Fast track bullies"?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 8, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    @Mitcher, I completely disagree with you. What happened in Sydney wasn't cricket. It was a disgrace to cricket and Kumble didn't mix his words. Rightly so. Oh yes, that was a win, a win for Australia which they would do better without. It's not just the Indians, many in Australia were genuinely concerned with that thuggery and cheating. Wonder how pointing at the incidents in that disgraceful test match is moaning?! I just think you are being very cold and irresponsible there. As a cricket fan, that win will always be a black mark in the history of Australian Cricket and Ponting. It surprises me that, to put India down, a disgraceful test match is being compared with a couple of bad decisions (that went against both the teams) in the ongoing test match. Wow!

  • ste13 on November 8, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    @goinguns: with this rationale, Tour de France (cycling) should also be scrapped - it is too long and nobode can follow it; sorry there is many sports that go for more than 1 hour; take also example of marathon running - this is also boring to watch, but it is an achievement to win, so I hope it will be continued, with cricket any overdose is killing the game and it applies to all forms; for test cricket - you do not have to see every bowl bowled to understand and follow the match; I would still seek solutions to reduce number of games being drawn with negative tactics and flat wickets just as in the last Pak-SL game

  • on November 8, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    @ Eliya Abbas Syed: mate, may i remind u ......Pakistan is playing in DEAD Batsman pitches!!!

  • ATIMAYANK on November 8, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    @sabee66: I guess you missed the series in the West Indies :D

  • Ravi_kumar_Kinnera on November 8, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    Varun Aron has to wait for 7 test matches to his test match debut... he did the same for ODI debut...

  • on November 8, 2011, 7:01 GMT

    Wow, even Pakistan have probably got past 300 more times than India over the last couple of months :P

  • sabee66 on November 8, 2011, 6:25 GMT

    ohhh G, this is in India , imagine if this is in WI or somewhere on the fast tracks, India is gone ............lol

  • Mitcher on November 8, 2011, 6:16 GMT

    @vikneshwar: mate, thanks for proving my point. In defending india's ABYSMAL record in Australia (again, let's not forget the similar story in sth Africa), you've used the following defences: Perth - a good win but a series that was ultimately lost; Sydney 03/04 - a DRAW; and Sydney - a match all the moaning in the world hasn't been able to change the fact it was a LOSS. Really grasping at straws buddy. If India fight back to win this match should windies threaten to fly home because of the bad umpiring like scorned children. Did somebody say hypocrites?

  • landl47 on November 8, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    India was extremely fortunate to score 209. Sehwag and Gambhir had enough luck for 6 players before lunch; edges flying everywhere, Sehwag bowled off a no-ball by about half an inch when Edwards' foot was on the line, a dropped catch, balls not carrying to the fielders... it was a mess. Once they got out (by which time India could have been 6 down) only Dravid played a decent innings, the rest were clueless. It was very reminiscent of the England tour. India may well still win (this is a weak WI side), but this performance won't be causing the other top test sides many sleepless nights.

  • aruntheselector on November 8, 2011, 6:02 GMT

    Be it pitch or soft dismissals,it is 5th consecutive test where India has not managed to put a 300+ score.Bowling has been a weak area for long,but this stats just goes to show that the batting is a matter of grave concern.With Dravid, Sachin and Laxman if the team is unable to score 300+,then the team might as well score less than 300 without these 3.Time for some serious thinking about the future of Indian batting and prepare an exit plan of the seniors.It would not be a bad idea replacing the Big 3.Better to loose with a young team rather than an experienced one.Let there be rotation between new batsmen for each positions and maybe in 2 years time a new combo could come out.Position wise rotation could be as follows:No3-Pujara,Rahane,Kohli,Mukund.No4-Kohli,Rohit Sharma,Badrinath.No5-Rohit,Badri,Raina,Yuvi,Manoj Tiwari.No6-Raina,Yuvi,Tiwari,MSD,Jadeja.No7-MSD,Jadeja.Opening is fine as of now.Backup-Rahane/Mukund/Dhawan/Parthiv/Vijay.Akash Chopra & Jaffer if experience required.

  • Munna_bangla on November 8, 2011, 6:02 GMT

    i think,sewag is a natural talented player.Tamim is such a another attacking player too.bd team now playing well.

  • M_Rakibul_Islam on November 8, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    What happened to world's best batting line up??? Bangladesh did better against Caribbean bowling. As BD is at bottom of Test ranking, the incident proves WI bowling isn't outstanding. No doubt Indians r the best cricket nation in Asia but they should give more chance to new talents. They must learn something 4m the recent downfall of Aussie National side. After the retirement of Hayden, Gilchrist, Warne Aussies struggled against their competitors. So India must build up the future great batting line up now. Dravid, Laxman, Tendo, Viru contributed a lot. Now India should give more opportunities to youngsters otherwise it'll increase pressure on their Elder boys.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 8, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    @Bang_La...still in those 175!!!...poor guy! lol Your own coach called ur heroes 'ordinary'...now what??? ha ha ha

  • on November 8, 2011, 4:11 GMT

    @ earli, Naveed Khan, what about the plumb lbw appeal on Kirk Edwards turned down by Dharmasena then ? watch the full match before writing inappropriate comments !

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 8, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    @Bang_La, sour grapes eh? Sehwag called your team ordinary and whipped them accordingly. The whipping he gave your team in the world cup must have left some everlasting scars for you. Look at your minnow team before you start taking visceral pleasures by making fun of big boys (India).

  • Kazzmiii on November 8, 2011, 3:13 GMT

    @Abm Biddut, you say bangladesh is a developing cricketing nation...are you sure about that??? have you seen any improvement in there team???thay got their test status back in 1999/2000 and still they havent managed to show good results...they are still the same as they were 12-13 years back...forget about test cricket what have they done in one dayers or t20 for that matter...thay recently lost to zimbabwe...test status should be taken away from the bangladesh cricket team...

  • m_ilind on November 8, 2011, 2:41 GMT

    Without our spinners Ojha & Ashwin, this Test would have been a 'goner' for India. Slowly but surely, the curtains are being drawn on some of the most illustrious careers in Indian cricket.

  • Randy_Wilson on November 8, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    @ Lmaotsetung it strange when india was no 1 in test rankign test was alive and now they dropping test is dead, Also Aussie are still no 1 in Od and England no 1 in T20. but Real Cricket is Test Cricket T20 is Baseball not Cricket no technique needed, just need strong arms. Dont mine i enjoy T20 or ODI. but A True Cricketer is that person who can Play Test Match, Sachin, Lara, Dravid, Chanderpaul, Ponting, and many many more,

  • Bang_La on November 8, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    "...Sehwag, who only just fully recovered from his shoulder surgery...." If by any chance, Roach and Edwards can raise the ball to neck or even to ribcage with 140+K, poor Shewag would have to declare "injured" himself again. History speaks!!

  • Bang_La on November 8, 2011, 2:27 GMT

    Here are the HEROES! Vive la Indie! Did you see, Shewag was never scared! There was no bounce though, still he was NOT scared, such a hero!

  • on November 8, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    320 is still manageable....

  • on November 8, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    India's highest test score 752-6 came in an Australian pitch(SYDNEY)...In that match Aussies were forced follow on..They had to battle to draw.. India(FLAT TRACK BULLIES) have won in perth(FASTEST TRACK) against Aussies(the so called fast track bullies)..India scored over 500 in 2 of their 4 test matches in the last tour...We all know how Aus won Ind in 2008 Sydney Test..It must hv been won by IND if umpires have not committed mistakes...India must hv won 2-1 last time itself..I predict the same for forecoming AUS series too...

  • on November 8, 2011, 1:54 GMT

    I agree with Khan. History have shown that umpires tend to give more wrong decisions in favour of the higher ranked teams. It seem like some people dont want to move away from this old tradition and have the game played as fairly as possible. this situation is making it harder for the lower ranked teams to move up the table or certain teams are supposed to be ranked at a certain position and the umpires ensure that happen. I was looking at the match in which Shiv made the 100 off 69 balls and I noticed that Devon smith out lbw off an inside edge, Lara lbw off a ball missing the off stump. Shiv lbw off a ball pitching at lease 4 inches outside leg stump all in 1 innings. In this match with WI & India both Sammy & Shiv got poor decisions. So if teams do not want to use the DRS why dont they show the Hawk-eye projection so the world can see what's going on. This is worse than the 3 no-balls bowl by Amir & Asif because decisions like these affect the fairness and outcome of a match.

  • on November 8, 2011, 1:46 GMT

    Bangladesh is a developing cricketing nation. While most Indians are nice to us, some of the Indians can not just stop talking about revoking our test status, every time Bangladesh fails to win. While Dravid is favorite cricketer, and I like Indian team enough, it still makes me smile to think , how some arrogant fans are enjoying this match.

  • Sanj747 on November 8, 2011, 1:41 GMT

    Mitcher couldn't agree with you more. India are yet to win a series in SAF or Aus and when they were number 1 they didn't win in SL either. Best were drawn series against SL away and SAF away. Poor show if you are the number 1 team.

  • on November 8, 2011, 1:36 GMT

    Just wait, the match is still not over. If India lose, you will see one of the big guns dropped (maybe Laxman).

  • earli on November 8, 2011, 1:16 GMT

    Naveed Khan i agree with you. that was a very very bad decision, the umpire from Sri Lanka to me maybe guessing.

  • on November 8, 2011, 0:53 GMT

    Once Umpiring favored India. I think without DRS matches in India are never fair. Umpires favor India. Atrocious decision on Chanderpaul LBW.

  • earli on November 8, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    what westindies have under sammy leadership is fighting spirit. This team may not seems very strong on paper now but i can see this team in two to three years time at number 4 or 5 in the world and climbing. continue the good work sammy and the others.

  • on November 8, 2011, 0:46 GMT

    If India can dismiss W I by tea, and show patience and discretion in the 2nd innings, yes, there is a good match in hand. But, I would say that if India is going to indulge in "soft" loses, as they say......it is better to suffer that, by using the opportunity ( opportunity to lose) to prepare the next gen players for India. Many are waiting in the wings... still raw for internationals... but can blossom into, as good as the current heroes who served us well for so many years.

  • TywinLannister on November 8, 2011, 0:40 GMT

    Of course not, why would we expect Mr.Sehwag to sellout his own home ground. Well played, sire!

  • KAIRAVA on November 8, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    India's dismal show in England was blamed on playing less warm-up matches prior to the start of the test series, to get acclimatised to conditions. So, BCCI, having learnt a lesson, made sure that Team India gets to play atleast 2 warmup first-class matches in Australia for the upcoming test series in December. Now, after watching India's famed batting lineup tumble at home, its time for BCCI to schedule atleast two warmup domestic matches for the Indian playing XI so that the experienced but out of form Indian batsmen gets enough time to get acclimatised to even familiar local conditions. :-)

  • on November 8, 2011, 0:20 GMT

    super BIG guns......... folded for ........ super LOW score.

  • WestIndies1987 on November 8, 2011, 0:16 GMT

    I happy to see the WI doing so well even though my opinion of the board and Sammy as a captain(he gives 100% but is not worth of a starting place) is still VERY LOW! As for India, their ARROGANCE due to them controlling much of world cricket is coming back at them and even though I have great respect for Tendulkar, he is being GREEDY and should have retired after India won the 50 over WC.

  • AnkurTyagi on November 8, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    I was wondering , will india be able to chase close to 400 in 2 days..??..lol..I know they can but i dont want them to try to finish the game in T20 style..!

    @goingguns--Strange how did you get some time to write a review here on Cricinfo.just a friendly advice dont watch cricket and if you are too much into results then whenever game starts just turn off your Tv/COM/LAPII whatever... and toss a coin to know who gonna win..!! --

  • on November 7, 2011, 23:56 GMT

    This is more pathetic showing than what Bangladesh did against W.I. and they talk about revoking test status. Don't know who to believe. West Indies needs to teach India a strong lesson so that the arrogant attitude and lips by Sehwag will be sealed for good.

  • on November 7, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    I Predict that India will LOOSe to WI _2-0

  • Mitcher on November 7, 2011, 23:33 GMT

    @Hashu Gill: In answer to your question, last time Australia beat India was the last time India toured Australia. This is easy to work out since, as everyone knows, India are world-beaters at home and competitive at best on the road (and that's being kind). Just because BCCI has loaded up on home series in recent times to protect (in vain) the number one ranking, does not change this fact. I'd be highly confident of Australia towelling India up since the flat-track bullies have NEVER won a Test series in Australia. Or South Africa for that matter. How sad.

  • NairUSA on November 7, 2011, 23:03 GMT

    Good game. India might have underestimated the spirit of WI and paid the price. The pitch was fair to the batsmen with the right approach as demonstrated by Chanderpaul and Sehwag. This test will produce a result and let the best team win.

  • Shan156 on November 7, 2011, 22:57 GMT

    @wifan69, lmaotsetung is not an Indian fan. He was merely stating the excuses that we will hear from many Indian fans. He missed a few though. Biased, poor umpiring will definitely find its way somewhere near the top of any Indian excuses list.

  • dibbu on November 7, 2011, 22:42 GMT

    No problemo! India always takes a while to wake up in any series, and sometimes a bit too long, but I have no complaints whatsoever! India rocks! Period.

  • 2929paul on November 7, 2011, 22:41 GMT

    @goinguns You've hit the nail on the head. All cricket is boring if you have to concentrate for a long time as a spectator. Let's just play T20. Better still, let's just play Super Overs. They're really exciting. Each team only needs one bowler, four batters, a wicket keeper and a load of specialist fielders. Six balls each, strategic time outs every two deliveries, fielding restrictions for the first three deliveries, a drinks break, dancing girls and Ravi Shastri spouting on about "maximums" sponsored by a massive Indian conglomorate. The ICC can have a new Champion Nation every week.

  • Shan156 on November 7, 2011, 22:39 GMT

    @goinguns, in that case, we could also argue against ODIs and make a case for only T20s. After all, how many sports are there in which a game is played for a day? Who has the patience to watch a game that runs for 7 hours? Just because, your team is not doing so well in tests doesn't mean the format is bad. If you don't want to watch tests, don't. No one could force you.

    Ask any cricketer - including the great Sachin Tendulkar - and they will tell you that achievement in tests is worth more than in any other format. Test cricket is, and will remain, the best format of the sport.

  • wifan69 on November 7, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung...y is it that everytime india plays bad you indian fans make all sort of excuses?...yall couldnt whitewash WI in the caribbean cause yall were playing a B team....yall went to england and got whitewash with ur REAL TEAM...now u saying this india side is a C team cause zaheer khan is not playing and that test cricket is fallin away?...IT'S VERY SIMPLE..' INDIA IS THE WORST #1 TEST TEAM THERE EVER WAS'!

  • itsthewayuplay on November 7, 2011, 22:27 GMT

    @goinguns you sound like a very busy person. Perhaps T20s are too long for you and should they be reduced to 10 overs per side? ODIs and T20s are all about batting - the concept of ODIs was born because test match batting had became too slow and defensive and T20 has taken ODIs one step further and is all about 4s and 6s. You may have also noticed that a white ball is used in the shorter versions of the game so that bowlers are even less effective. How are these formats therefore a truer test than Test match cricket? If you don't have time for tests then don't watch don't speak on behalf of people that do watch, understand and enjoy it. Don't know if you'll have enough attention to make it to the end of this comment.

  • AnkurTyagi on November 7, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    I knew it was coming..!! -- Windies please consider yuvi's, Laxman's n dhoni's wicket as Christmas gift!! hopefully you wont be getting any new year's gift soon.!!Two players in the History of cricket are born to play their very best against INDIA..-- 1st is Chandrepaul and 2nd is Aaquib Javid..lol :)

  • Pritt32 on November 7, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    India's performance as a test nation is becoming a major concern now. It is shocking to see them perform so poor against lower ranked West Indies team in a deserted Delhi ground. 209 is a meagre total bearing in mind India's formidable batting line up, but now exposing a few cracks as Laxman and Tendulkar 's woeful performances continue. Indian batmen have lost the appetite to play big innings due to over-exposure of one day/20-20. Y. Singh highlights the case. Experimentation in the batting is needed in next two tests, if India head to what seems a likely defeat. India needs to get balance right between the longer and shorter form of the game by focusing on specialist test players. I do not want to see Test cricket continue to decline in India as I fear the worst of a long tradition damaged already. Test cricket is the pinnacle of competitive cricket and justified who is worthy of being the top. India needs to urgently prioritise their focus.

  • on November 7, 2011, 22:00 GMT

    To be frank I do not agree with Sehwag,even though I understand his comments. Sehwag is trying to trivialize WI effort so as not to give them a psychological advantage. The fact of the matter was that India went out there to score quickly & pass WI score & build a substantial lead in the shortest possible time; hence setting the platform for an easy victory. But the WI attack although not lethal, is an efficient one, & with the help of the pitch, WI were able to take the advantage. We r ahead by a nose, and if we can bat for 3sessions we will win this test. India can't get 300+ on that pitch I don't care who they have. 90 ovs at 2.35/ov + 95 & we good to go.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 7, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    Wow, Sehwag is such a darling! He can't mince words. Love his cricket talk. Mint!

  • on November 7, 2011, 21:18 GMT

    India need to stop starting out slow in every series! it's not a warmup game, this counts -_-''! india batted alright just bad shot selction and over confidence! If ashwin and OJha can bowl WI out for 200 or less, this will be really easy for india! hopefully Yadav can get some wickets too...he'll be fighting the pitch a lot more than the batsman! In the end this game is still favoured towards india! Day 3 will tell us the rest!

  • duck_and_cover on November 7, 2011, 21:09 GMT

    This is bad news- if India keep losing tests it devalues Englands 4-0 whitewash.....

  • on November 7, 2011, 20:49 GMT

    From an Indian fan to all the others who have posted here - Test match is the best form of the game simply because it poses the greatest amount of of challenges to the skills of the players and the spectators alike. Just as the players must perform all their skill sets for the longest endurable stretch of time appropriate to the form of the game, the spectators must learn to watch and appreciate every fine point of this struggle. Losers make excuses and talk of quitting. Winners re-group and re-learn and re-start. It is up to India to choose which one it will be.

  • SaneVoice on November 7, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    goinguns - Test cricket is NOT the real test of a 'CRICKETER' but it is the REAL test of a "SPECTATOR"!!!

  • spence1324 on November 7, 2011, 20:42 GMT

    @Goinguns so what do you think is the true test of a cricketer? it would not surprise me one bit if you said odi why? probley because india are would champions at that thats why! hmmm me thinks you are just picking a format that you are good at and discounting the other two.

  • Lmaotsetung on November 7, 2011, 20:42 GMT

    This is India's "C" team, no Zaheer, him alone is wirth 2 letters...test cricket is dying, ODI and T20 is where champions are made...India are tired from playing too much cricket...Diwali hangover....India players are bored, looking forward to christmas...have I about cover it?

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on November 7, 2011, 20:24 GMT

    It is no wonder India produce such one dimensional cricketers. What must Yadav and Sharma be thinking seeing Dhoni bowl 14 overs of spin first up? Terrible captain, terrible tactics!

  • Naresh28 on November 7, 2011, 20:22 GMT

    TO ME THIS iMDIAN TEAM IS JADED. The older players are just going thru motions Introducing youth in this series should have been top priority. Not that we are underestimating windies. We need to test the youth out for future assignements.

  • Nampally on November 7, 2011, 19:57 GMT

    I like your finishing sentence, Sharda - "India must now bridge the gap between saying and doing". In other words put your money where your mouth is.Forthe first time in a long while India had great effort from the spinners - Ojha & Ashwin - replacements for Harbhajan. They showed what they can do in the first innings. They will have to repeat that performance in the second innings too.Dhoni has rightly started with the best bowlers. Then we have a second chance for the batting to chase the target, as Sehwag says.If Sehwag & Gambhir can repeat their great start it will be an added boost.With top 4 batsmen who averaged 55 or more since 2008 in over 55 Tests, can they reproduce that form again? They must remind themselves that they will not give away their wickets cheaply as in first innings.The team has the capability but can they transfer the figures on the paper to a reality by "Walking the talk". Common you guys. Pull yourselves together& do it in front of your home crowd.

  • Jaggadaaku on November 7, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    These Indian batsmen always have some excuses whenever they got faield despite trying harder. Last time because his injury he got escape from WI tour and couple of England Tests. That time was more than enough to recover of his injury's surgery and recover. And he played rest of the 2 tests and faced less than 50 balls in 2 tests and declared injured and went back to India leaving one day series. Many other batsmen and bowlers got failed and left middle of the series on the same old typical reason as injured. What a bunch of TV actors!!! Last time India won the series against WI in WI by 1-0 but lost one point because they were on top of the ICC table while WI was on 8th place. And WI got that 1 point despite they lost the series. It will be really shame if India would even win the series by 1-0 this time. Put some things in your mind that Yuvraj never going to be Test specialist, Sachin wouldn't get his 100th ton, and should drop Dravid, Laxman, and Sachin for India's best luck.

  • goinguns on November 7, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    Also, to everyone who says TEST cricket is the real test of a cricketer, I don't find that argument very valid. Yes, it might have been true years ago, but anymore, no one really has the time to watch a game for 5 days. The world is moving too fast to wait for a 5 day game. everyone wants instant gratification. Yes, there are times, when you watch a truly entertaining test match with lots of turns and twists, but tell me who really watches those games.. other than analysts and commentators? no one.. everyone watches maybe 10-15% of the game and catch up on the rest via highlights or cricinfo articles.. then what's the point?

    If you still think 5 days matches are fun to watch, why don't we extend to 7 days and 3 innings each? I know what you will say, you will there is got to be a limit, right? And that's exactly my point, maybe the limit is 3 days in this decade, then we re-evaluate next decade :)

  • goinguns on November 7, 2011, 19:40 GMT

    ok, this is what I am proposing. Maybe, India should put an end to TEST cricket. They have the power, we all know that. They can say, we will only play ODIs and T20 most of the time. If you wish to play the longer format of cricket, we can consider 3 day matches... no more. OR Here is another approach.

    Let the current team be the ODI team, make a differnt team for T20, which we are already doing. but for TEST make a completely new team by picking the players from Ranji.. no current player around. They are used to playing longer format and slug it out for 5 days, maybe they can do the job.

  • Asadpk on November 7, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    Sehwag does some straight talk...but i wonder when will Kohli get a chance to play Tests?

  • subbass on November 7, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    India will be bottom of the major Test nations by the time they end the tour of OZ.

    Even if they mange to win this game to even let a poor side like WI dominate on home soil shows how they are just a one trick pony, that trick been 50 over cricket.

    I suppose it's better than nothing, but yeh I expect Australia to win comfortably, doubt it will be 4-0 but they should win by 2 clear Tests.

    It is good to see WI doing ok though, world cricket needs a decent WI side, I guess the same goes for India so it's a shame they are looking such a poor Test side these days.

  • Nampally on November 7, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    It is good to hear from Sehwag "speaking like it is". Sehwag calls the first 4 dismissals as "soft" ones. I can agree to Sehwag & Gambhir's dismissals as unlucky ones. WI had a similar dismissal in WI, stumped- against Kohli as Sehwag's.So Indians should have been more cautious - lesson learnt? Secondly Tendulkar & Laxman's dismissals are not soft - poor batting from "Legends". These 2 guys failed in England dashing Indian hopes in all Tests.I call it irresponsible batting.Dhoni's dismissal was poor- clean bowled to a straight ball !.It is always Dravid who has to stand at the end as a lone ranger. It is time for SRT,VVS & MSD to shoulder their responsibility & avoid repeat of England whitewash. Personally I would bring in committed Youngsters like Kohli, Rahane & Pujara in the middle order instead of "irresponsible legends".Young India thrashed England in all 5 ODI's. They can do so in tests too.Ojha showed India what they missed by treating him as "Pariah". Use India's talent NOW

  • East_West on November 7, 2011, 19:31 GMT

    Hahaha! what a joke! Let me guess, this is the warmup test, so Indians DO NOT show their true potetial until the next one:)) Any other excuses for Sachin, Laxman, and others!!! We had a great chance to go for a big score and then put WI under pressure, but we INDIANS are so cocky! In fact, before the test begaun, our so called MEDIA hyped that WI will be walked over and blah blah, and WI has to show their pride in playing.....what a shame! Media gives lot of fake and hyped coverage of Indian batting, but as usaul we are below average!!! I bet Afghanistan would have scored more runs than this fake#1 Indian team!!

  • kitten on November 7, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    I totally agree with all the comments regarding Tendulkar and VVS. These two should be gracefully retired. Tendi's focus must be on his 100th century, and he seems to be out of sorts. Also over the past few years, with one or two exceptions, Tendi always fails in a crisis. Dravid is The Man. Laxman looks like a spent force, and one of the posts even stated that if these two can't score on their own tracks in their backyard, then it is time to say goodbye. Never a truer word said. Kohli and Rahane should step in. They are better fielders as well. But seriously, I can't see this happening...they are legends after all!

  • kriketluva on November 7, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    We shall see Mr. Sehwag. I believe that the WI will beat them at home with their team full of batting greats on their wickets in their conditions. This was not expected from such lowly ranked team. Time will tell. Good luck WI. Well done so far Mr. Sammy may all your detractors be forced to ingest humble pie.

  • the_wallster on November 7, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    and did anyone see dhoni's dismissal?? wow. he was nowhere near it and it was a straight one! the siple fact is, that gambhir and sehwag could have been gone in the single figures, and then how would india's score have looked? if weswt indies get a lead of 280 it'll be there's to lose.

  • the_wallster on November 7, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    can anyone tell me how many times india have passed 300 in the last 18 months? incredible.

  • likeintcricket on November 7, 2011, 19:15 GMT

    Against this highly motivated WI side a 250 target is not easy. WI though still have enough batting to post 200+ on this wicket.

  • on November 7, 2011, 19:02 GMT

    @annonimus keep dreaming buddy! when was the last time australia won a test series against india? thought so! india always start of show than pick up!

  • Optimistix on November 7, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    Wow, one pathetic tour of England, and now it's "at home, they always have belief" - just wow. All the improvement abroad in the past decade swept away, just like that.

  • Valavan on November 7, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    Sehwag got a life due to marginal no ball. that was a wake up call, but what happened is pure calypso domination. Will Windies keep the Kotla Fortress. Time will show. Good luck Sammy and boys, keep your head above your neck and play with whole heart.cricinfo please publish

  • on November 7, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    For the last 15-20 innings india is mostly struggling to post big score. Somehow they managed to win few games due to pull of by Laxman. The same is now appears not happening, as indian batsmen seem lethergic in playing Test match and score big. They just play like one 20-20 match. Where was need for Gambir to step out even before shewag plays out. Somebody need to remind them that they are playing test match. Scoring at 7 per over and then suddenly losing wickets is really 20-20 match. The result will be same even if this team plays against any ranji trophy. They are not learning after England debacle !.

  • annonimus on November 7, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    India may escape in their home soil against poor West Indies. But, their tough time is coming against Australia. We are sure that Aussies are wining in a big margin like 4-0.

  • on November 7, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    Maybe it's time for Sachin and VVS to retire and make way for the new generation.

  • nlambda on November 7, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    India have forgotten how to play tests. First they scored at 7 an over like a T20, then later no one barring Dravid had the patience and watchfulness to stay on. Try scoring at 3 an over now and then guys...

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on November 7, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    Anything under 350 is definitely chaseable. Batters got out playing false shots. I sincerely believe they will come back strongly in 2nd innings :) Go India

  • on November 7, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    Brave words by Sehwag but he is capable of translating the same into action and reality. India has got a chance to show that what happened in England could happen to a team crippled by injuries otherwise the test match capabilities of the team stand exposed. This match certainly provides an ooportunity of DO OR DIE. The survivor is sure to become the favourite and the saviour a hero- applicable to both the teams.

  • on November 7, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    When Sehwag was told West Indies wanted to set 400, he said with scarcely disguised disdain: "We thought we would make 1000 runs in the first innings. But to say and to do are two different things. Anyone can say what they want."

    I LOVE YOU SEHWAG! The way you talk! The way you BAT!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 7, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    The Gulf between England and the rest of the cricket playing world is, and has been for a year now, MASSIVE. India continue to exhibit their poor skills in long game.

  • Techravi on November 7, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Till now Indian team never own any Test series in South africa whereas south africa have whitwashed a Test series in India

  • RahulBhaskaranpinarayi on November 7, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    only dravid have the patiance to play onday cricket. sachin have to play regulerley if he started comming and getting rest contineouseley when you are not going well it will injure your self.sachin have to play oneday cricket at list 15-20 a year if he does not wanted to retyre fron limited over format.if he played in the westindise things could been different. playing in westindise helped dravid to gain his foam. when you are scoring after loat of patches then after geeting some runs in a match continue play sachin got runs in last test against england there after he again taken break.laxman is have the situation for long time playing only test. if he does not get foam against 2012 aus ture the he will retire 2012 october playing a home seres against australia.

  • MENDIS_Forever on November 7, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    He is telling the truth.But for those soft dismissals,India would have scored 350+ on that track.Even Paranavitana would scored a 75 ball 100 there.

  • orangtan on November 7, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    Sehwag would do better to let his bat do the talking. If he is right regarding the pitch, then all the erudite commentators are wrong. Whatever the case, I can not see the West Indies being bundled out for 150. 250-300 is my ballpark estimate, leaving India at-least about 350 to win which is just not on in the 4th innings against a disciplined attack with 2 pacemen, an accurate wicket-to-wicket medium-pacer in Sammy, and Bishoo bowling controlled leg-spin, all backed by excellent fielding. No, I am afraid Fortress India is about to collapse.

  • on November 7, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Et voila c'est ca... India must now bridge the gap between saying and doing. Sehwag can't ridicule West Indies because until now they have performed better than the Indians. I think if WI can score 300 in this innings then India will lose

  • cricketpurist on November 7, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    Sehwag what soft dismissal are you talking about its WESTINDIES dear WESTINDIES playing in India, the situation is bad for us but i know its not hopeless..whatever it is you guys played bad cricket it was not soft dismissal it was just wrong shot selection and not having patience.

  • rahulcricket007 on November 7, 2011, 17:22 GMT

    HMMM. NOW INDIA CAN'T MAKE 300 EVEN ON FLAT TRACKS .

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  • rahulcricket007 on November 7, 2011, 17:22 GMT

    HMMM. NOW INDIA CAN'T MAKE 300 EVEN ON FLAT TRACKS .

  • cricketpurist on November 7, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    Sehwag what soft dismissal are you talking about its WESTINDIES dear WESTINDIES playing in India, the situation is bad for us but i know its not hopeless..whatever it is you guys played bad cricket it was not soft dismissal it was just wrong shot selection and not having patience.

  • on November 7, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Et voila c'est ca... India must now bridge the gap between saying and doing. Sehwag can't ridicule West Indies because until now they have performed better than the Indians. I think if WI can score 300 in this innings then India will lose

  • orangtan on November 7, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    Sehwag would do better to let his bat do the talking. If he is right regarding the pitch, then all the erudite commentators are wrong. Whatever the case, I can not see the West Indies being bundled out for 150. 250-300 is my ballpark estimate, leaving India at-least about 350 to win which is just not on in the 4th innings against a disciplined attack with 2 pacemen, an accurate wicket-to-wicket medium-pacer in Sammy, and Bishoo bowling controlled leg-spin, all backed by excellent fielding. No, I am afraid Fortress India is about to collapse.

  • MENDIS_Forever on November 7, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    He is telling the truth.But for those soft dismissals,India would have scored 350+ on that track.Even Paranavitana would scored a 75 ball 100 there.

  • RahulBhaskaranpinarayi on November 7, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    only dravid have the patiance to play onday cricket. sachin have to play regulerley if he started comming and getting rest contineouseley when you are not going well it will injure your self.sachin have to play oneday cricket at list 15-20 a year if he does not wanted to retyre fron limited over format.if he played in the westindise things could been different. playing in westindise helped dravid to gain his foam. when you are scoring after loat of patches then after geeting some runs in a match continue play sachin got runs in last test against england there after he again taken break.laxman is have the situation for long time playing only test. if he does not get foam against 2012 aus ture the he will retire 2012 october playing a home seres against australia.

  • Techravi on November 7, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Till now Indian team never own any Test series in South africa whereas south africa have whitwashed a Test series in India

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 7, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    The Gulf between England and the rest of the cricket playing world is, and has been for a year now, MASSIVE. India continue to exhibit their poor skills in long game.

  • on November 7, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    When Sehwag was told West Indies wanted to set 400, he said with scarcely disguised disdain: "We thought we would make 1000 runs in the first innings. But to say and to do are two different things. Anyone can say what they want."

    I LOVE YOU SEHWAG! The way you talk! The way you BAT!

  • on November 7, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    Brave words by Sehwag but he is capable of translating the same into action and reality. India has got a chance to show that what happened in England could happen to a team crippled by injuries otherwise the test match capabilities of the team stand exposed. This match certainly provides an ooportunity of DO OR DIE. The survivor is sure to become the favourite and the saviour a hero- applicable to both the teams.