India v West Indies, 1st Test, Kolkata, 3rd day

How Shami succeeded at Eden

The ball was moving towards the shiny side, but most of Mohammed Shami's wickets came not with the traditional full-reverse length, but from just short of a length

Sidharth Monga at Eden Gardens

November 8, 2013

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More to Shami than reverse swing


Mohammed Shami takes off after bowling Darren Sammy, India v West Indies, 1st Test, Kolkata, 3rd day, November 8, 2013
Mohammed Shami had six batsmen bowled and one lbw out of his nine wickets © BCCI
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There aren't many experiences as uplifting for a team as when an Eden Gardens crowd roars on the home team with an Indian bowler on a roll. Even when the Eden has only about 30,000. The bowler on the roll here was Mohammed Shami, taking nine wickets on debut, mainly through reverse, six of them bowled, one lbw, hurting West Indies, who seemed better prepared against the spinners who had run through them on their last visit.

There was something a bit different here, though. Yes, the ball was moving towards the shiny side, but most of Shami's wickets came not with the traditional full reverse length, but from just short of a length. It was mostly the traditional movement back into the right-hand batsman, but the ball - possibly because of the length - would tail in ever so slightly in the air, and would be taken in by the weight of the shiny side after pitching. It was almost like seam movement.

We won't know if we are onto something here, or if it is more dangerous than the full reverse-swinging deliveries because the West Indies batsmen made it look much better than it was. None of them stood outside the crease to counter the movement, nor did any of the extravagant back lifts come down. Many of them got out playing big drives. That's not how you play reverse swing. So it's difficult to say whether seam movement, which is usually more dangerous than normal swing because you have no idea of its movement before it pitches, is more dangerous than full, late, reverse-swinging deliveries. You have to keep in mind that in this case the West Indies batsmen at least had a half inkling that the ball was going to move with the shiny side.    

The West Indies captain Darren Sammy, though, thought the length made the difference. "We got the ball to move, to reverse a little bit," he said. "The difference between our bowlers and Shami was the length. He was bowling the ball into the pitch, bowling wicket-to-wicket. When he was reversing into the right-hander, he started on a good length, outside the off stump, hitting the stumps. Our bowlers were bowling it full, under the bat, or short. We were not consistent in our line and length. He showed us how to do it. And that is the way it should be done."

Sammy was pretty gracious in praising Shami. "The funny thing is, last time it was the spinners who took the wickets," Sammy said. "Now it is the debutant taking nine in the match. Credit to him. First game. Very impressive. He showed us how to bowl on these wickets in India. If some of the balls are keeping low, bowl dead straight, starting the ball from out there and reversing it back into the stumps. Most of his wickets except two of them were bowled out or lbw. We could learn a lot from India: the way they played their cricket and look to implement in our next match."

Sammy felt that by bowling on a length and not really full, Shami exploited the uneven bounce of the surface, and kept getting the movement at the same time. R Ashwin said the length might have done a few batsmen in, but it was also a matter of getting used to how to play the reverse swing. "When reverse swing came into play, I think nobody knew how to play it or what it was all about," Ashwin said. "Maybe it's about watching out for the reverse swing and playing it late. I think that's how reverse swing needs to be played. But definitely, what happens with the reverse swing is that once you get excited and bowl fuller, it becomes easier for the batsmen. What Shami did do with [Marlon] Samuels and a few other batsmen was brilliant. He hit the deck, and got to move it off the seam as well. He bowled brilliantly."

Bigger challenges lie ahead for Shami, and tours overseas where reverse swing might not be such a factor. Ashwin is looking forward to those days. "I think we are forming a potent attack, with the South Africa tour coming up," Ashwin said. "More than talent and ability, I think having taken wickets is important when going into any series. He's got a lovely five-wicket haul here. I hope he carries on, and forms a potent attack with some of our senior bowlers."

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Posted by jango_moh on (November 11, 2013, 5:29 GMT)

hopefully zaheer makes it to the SA team, even if he doesnt play he would be great at mentoring the new guys, hopefully he gets to play... zak, bhuvi/yadav and shami can make a decent pace unit..... hopefully zak is fit enuf and has his mojo by then!!!

Posted by ROXSPORT on (November 10, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

@ Daveptee: Agree with you fully, mate. Shami needs to be given a decent run. And, certainly, that good for nothing Ishant Sharma has played his last for India. He will go down in history as the poorest bowler to have played more than 50 tests.

Posted by 777aditya on (November 10, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

Are we Indian cricket fans so deprived of pedigreed bowlers that we hail them on the basis of just a match's performance. Everyone is praising Shami profusely, at least let the 2nd test match get over. Of course, he bowled well. What remains to be seen, however, is does he have the consistency and the appetite to get more and more wickets. I ain't a cynic, but examples of riches to rags like Pathan, Balaji, Ishant, Nehra, Sreesanth, etc don't exactly inspire confidence.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

Infact; before this, I've seen somebody reversing, after pitching the ball a bit short of length, only once. That was A Flintoff and S Jones in the Ashes 2005.

But, none of them played much or repeated it after that series ;)

Posted by Hummingbird0 on (November 10, 2013, 7:49 GMT)

Hey guys, there is no need to lament about lost pacers like R.P, sreesanth. Better look at the resources available. One or two certainly deserves a chance. The likes of Pankaj singh, Imitiaz Ahmed, I.pandey, and Sandeep warrier are the ones. Even Rishi Dhawan

What say you?

Posted by BozoSri on (November 10, 2013, 6:02 GMT)

Which team is Ashwin playing for?? He is the most senior bowler in the side as of now. So there are no senior bowlers for Shami to work with. The most likely fast bowlers to play in the two tests in SA are B Kumar M Shami and U yadav, and none of them can be called a senior to anyone. Ishanth Sharma will be picked in the 15 but designated to carrying water and bowling in nets. So there are no senior bowlers in the Indian team there hasnt been for quite sometime ever since Zaheer went out with injury.

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 10, 2013, 2:56 GMT)

if he do not do weight lifting and leg strengthen excercize , he is a goner just like every other bowlers. I hope he eats lots mutton biriyani and hit gym. :)

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 0:51 GMT)

Sid: Such motivational stories are delightful to read and inspirational to many a struggling (resource-wise and not talent-wise) boy or girl with stars in their eyes, and hopes in their hearts to go and play for one's country, with pride held aloft!

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 0:39 GMT)

Another Mohammed Nizaar, or perhaps Amar Singh.

Posted by Naresh28 on (November 9, 2013, 21:49 GMT)

@SAM-ROY - like your analysis of Sreesanth and RP Singh. I felt that Sreesanth could have been the most feared Indian bowler - he was really good. RP Singh played great in a T20 WC in SA.

Posted by Daveptee on (November 9, 2013, 21:43 GMT)

It's amusing to see and read the posts from self-styled fast bowling experts.Lets face facts guys.....Pakistan have always had a surfeit of fast bowlers capable of bowling all kinds of deliveries....Even Asif could bowl all the deliveries that were mentioned.Why do we have to get carried away.....only a test old...that too against possibly the poorest test team( Bangladesh bat better).....have seen comparisons with Steyn, Waqar and Imran already.Give him a decent run and see what happens....now that does not mean 50+ tests like Ishant.

Posted by cricketfan1 on (November 9, 2013, 20:49 GMT)

For SA tour of India, I would love to see trio of Zak, Umesh, Shami ripping into the SA batting. Dhoni, please give them chance together at least in one test.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 20:44 GMT)

@SL-USA-Lions - FYI - Ashwin has Scored a 62 vs Aus in Aus, 68 vs England in India when Monty Panesar and Swann were wrecking India and 91* against England in the same series. He had a decent season against aus in aus as well. Ashwin is more than a lower order bat. After 17 tests he has more than a decent average for a bowler. He averages 41. He has averaged better than many top order batsman in the world. Sanath Jayasuriya started as a bowler. He averaged 34.73 and had scored 443 runs in his first 18 tests. Ashwin may not come close to 1000 clicks of Jaysurya, but for what he is done he is one the best lower order batsman now.

Posted by SL-USA-Lions on (November 9, 2013, 19:26 GMT)

Continued...

WI can't field a competitive 11 for a test? I'm sick to my stomach.

Indian team is talented, well balanced, well coached & captained. But honestly Shami is an average bowler. And Ashwin scores a century? THAT SAYS IT ALL.

WI selection process has been a SHAM for two decades and it shows with their recent record. Undisciplined batting, poor bowling and overall lack of fighting spirit by the whole team has been a common stay with WI for far too long.

No new young fast bowlers are coming through the system. WI used to have an army of FAST BOWLERS some not even getting a chance to be in the team. Best over Roach? Narine not in the mix? Shiv is getting old so it's time for a young gun.

I can go on and on... But I"M SIMPLY TIRED.

I'm tired of seeing this team loosing and loosing. I'm not even from WI. But I used to love how they used play with talent, Charisma and passion.

I want the old WI team to rise like the PHOENIX and rule the cricketing world LIKE THEY USED TO.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

Shami's story reads like a story book. A lanky, skinny kid from a little village without any facilities. He strives on, determined to make it to the big leagues. His father had similar dreams and encourages him on. For someone from an underprivileged background, sports (and sometimes entertainment) is the only option (a high risk one too). Shami and his dad decided to risk it. There was little to lose. Its hard to keep bowling fast when u r hungry. But Shami keeps at it. He wants to be the best swing bowler ever. Then one day the Calcutta club comes calling from out of nowhere. Mohunbagan next; the IPL and now the WORLD. Wow! what a story. This can be Lagan II. Amir is still young enough to play Shami. I tell u this one will be a bigger blockbuster than the first one. Just get a fresh faced cutie to cheer him on from the stands.

Posted by cricketfan1 on (November 9, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

Agree with @SamRoy. Let us wait at least a few months befor comapring with Kapil "The Batsmen". If one remember, he was forcedto open in Australia as our top batsmen failed to face in fast bowling in that series.

Posted by SamRoy on (November 9, 2013, 16:46 GMT)

Well we Indians keep making unrealistic comparisons. Kapil Dev and Irfan. Oh please... Kapil Dev was one of our best batsman against WI (the greatest bowling line-up of all times), well videos of those are not there... Anyway, did you see Kapil's 1992 century vs SA. I saw that and I can tell you in terms of batting potential if Kapil fulfilled his he would average 50+ in today's era. He was more interested in entertaining crowds. Irfan is a much more restricted batsman. Bowling again no comparison (especially if one averages 45+ vs the good teams (except Zim and Bangladesh). An even more unrealistic comparison was when some people made Irfan and Wasim Akram. I laughed my guts out. Akram is the most talented bowler in my 25 years of watching cricket (Marshall, McGrath and Ambrose were better bowlers). He could swing it both ways, reverse it both ways and generate extreme pace from a very short run-up and tremendous arm speed. He made Rahul Dravid look like a fool in 1999 test vs India.

Posted by SamRoy on (November 9, 2013, 16:29 GMT)

Listen people, in ODI cricket, if you swing the ball big you can get wickets as batsman will play their shots. In test cricket if you swing the ball big and if the swing is early really good batsman will never get out to you. In test cricket the swing has to be really late and on a good length to trouble really good batsman. Irfan's swing was never really late and after Australia 2003-04 his pace was almost always below 85 mph. Now coming to hattrick in Pakistan please go and watch all the dismissal's again the pace of every delivery is around 125 kph (78 mph) and it swung big. Except the Yousuf dismissal the other two were batsman's technical faults. RP had a nice seam position and an upright action and at his best was able to move the ball both ways and bowl at 138-142 kph (85-87) and Sreesanth had the best seam position since Kapil Dev with consistent pace around 140 kph. I have seen over 400 test matches and speak from that experience. I am not a blind supporter of any test player.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 14:01 GMT)

Thats right, he bowled it more at a seaming length than the swinging length. Swing can be handled by good batsmen; however seaming conditions are mostly unplayable.

So, have we just witnessed a new style of bowling, a new weapon in the hand of fast bowlers? "Reverse Seam", may be....

Whatever, if the ball starts reversing after it pitches at good length, just like how it does on a wet green seaming pitch, it becomes some challenge for the batsman.

Moreover, Shami is moving it bothways. Who would've thought an Indian fast bowler will come up with an innovation to the Reverse Swing ahead of their counterparts from Pakistan. So, finally we have one over Pakistan in fast bowling innovations!!!!!

Posted by buntyj on (November 9, 2013, 12:28 GMT)

i have been saying that shami should be on the radar screen since the india a tour of windies couple years ago and am pleased he has done well on debut. but its too early to say if he can repeat this away from asia - on pitches that dont scruff the ball so much or so early and with the kookaburra ball used in most countries. hence yadav(pace) and pandey (bounce) should be included in the touring team when india travel to rsa, nz etc in any case we will need 3 seamers there.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 7:43 GMT)

If this will be post...it will be lucky day to me as like as Md.Sammi and Rohit even Ashwin too....at my home town in Tamilnadu my friend named his new born baby as Ashwin.... I think after long time as a Tamilan we are proud for our Ashwin.... GOOD LUCK INDIA...in SA

Posted by Night.angel on (November 9, 2013, 6:51 GMT)

@johnz777z , exactly, In my opinion, Rishi Dhawan is the allrounder we all were waiting for since Kapil Dev. He got 'it' in him. Sorry guys, its not Irfan Pathan. It is Rishi Dhawan. Its high time fans and selectors need to realise this. Once he is in the team, Indian public is going to love him more than Kohli

Posted by Fan1969 on (November 9, 2013, 6:20 GMT)

India needs to respect pace bowlers. We have produced great batsman like Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Sehwag, Vishy etc. etc. and now Kohli, Dhwan, Rohit, Yuvi, Raina, Dhoni etc....but

VERY FEW GOOD PACERS. Irfan had good swing but lacked pace, same with Praveen and Bhuvi. Ishant bowls above stumps - no LBW, bowled. Shami has it all - Pace and can do both out and inswing. Very rare skill.

Shami reminds me of Imran in 1982 when Gavaskar scored heavily but we lost 3-0. Pak had good batting who will play out Kapil but no threat from other bowling end at all.

Shami has to be preserved for Test cricket alone and maybe ODIs overseas, definitely not on flat tracks in India. IPL will ruin his line, length and swing and make him defensive.

Getting a top batsman like Amla, Kallis, Clarke, Cook, KP is never easy if they decide to play out. High time India looks to dominate world cricket in performance not just finance.

We need good pace bowlers. Preserve Shami and find more!! Pls

Posted by Night.angel on (November 9, 2013, 5:45 GMT)

@rdr_1019, inside hedge, samroy : Fast bowling allrounder in india is not Irfan Pathan, its Rishi Dhawan. He is a swing bowler and an attacking lower order batsman with an Avg of 42+. His bowling avg is 25//

Irfan pathan batting avg is only 30 and bowling avg 28. The sad part is nobody knows about the former much. No discussion, nothing. It won't be a surprise if this talent goes unnoticed as nobody cares about fast bowling allrounder.

A wicket-keeper batsman better than Dhoni and the likes of W.saha, karthik, parthiv patel in tests is Uday kaul.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 5:31 GMT)

I think we should also consider Varun Aaron. In SA he will be a good option with Yadav and Shami. While spin is concerned Mishra will be better option. We need bowlers to take wickets not make only runs.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 5:16 GMT)

Great article. Kudos Sami the debutant for claming 9 wkts on debut. It is too early to say now. He must perform in oversees condtions. It is time that ZK becomes the bowling coach for the Indian where he can nurture the upcoming bowlers. What happened to Praveen Kumar & Vaaron Aaron. Where are they !!! The team really looks good. It is time for them to perform well when they tour RSA for Dec 2 to Dec 28 2013. Nurturing the talent is very important. Finally cricket is the winner.

Posted by Sir_Ivor on (November 9, 2013, 4:49 GMT)

When Irfan Pathan started out he did look a great prospect for India.Adam Gilchrist's wicket at the SCG in the 4th Test really whetted my appetite. he seemed to have it all. Then that hat-trick in the opening over in the Karachi Test had everyone baying for more. The sad part was that he never had the pace other than maybe in his first couple of Tests. And because of lack of pace, the prodigous movement that gets naturally became easier to counter. I wonder why it is,but he just doesn't seem to be able to get the pace he should ideally be generating with his build. Greg Chappell has been blamed a lot for Pathan's woes. Chappell only tried to actualise Pathan's undoubted batting skills. That was no reason for Irfan to have forgotten his basic trade. In any case, I agree with SamRoy that at the moment,to talk about Irfan Pathan as a good all rounder is too unrealistic when we have a burgeoning Indian team in all aspects of the game.I am sure there will be many more to choose from soon.

Posted by foursandsixes on (November 9, 2013, 3:28 GMT)

@InsideHedge, it is reverse because it swings to the shiny side (late, after it hits the pitch) as opposed to early swing towards the rough side, which would be conventional swing. This was a good exhibition of reverse swing, and WI were clearly not prepared. Needs some time to get sufficient practice as a batsman, and is not easily reproducible everywhere (weather, nature of the pitch, are factors), so hard to say if the Mumbai test will be more of the same.

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

Wasim Akram has always been al praise for M. Shami

Posted by   on (November 9, 2013, 1:51 GMT)

One new ball bolwer of promise has arrived. it is duty of captain and BCCI to nurture him. If he continues to do well we may have a potent weapon in our armoury when we go SA

Posted by android_user on (November 8, 2013, 23:13 GMT)

To Sam Roy

Management of Irfan destroyed his career. I remember when people were comparing him as tge next kapil dev? he is better than rp n sreesanth put together.

And as far as I'm concerned, how is pathan such a great one day bowler then. Stats r rubbish. Besides, he hasn't got a huge sample size.

Posted by Fan_of_test_cricket on (November 8, 2013, 21:55 GMT)

Shami looks really great and should have been the MoM in my opinion. Just hope that he does not sacrifice on his pace in the coming years. I think India should play genuine fast bowlers like Shami & Yadav regularly. (Cut some slack for Yadav's line & length, he will improve with experience. Even Steyn struggled in his early years.)

Zaheer, Yadav, Shami and Bhuvaneshwar looks like a good pace attack. Ishant can function as the 5th bowler when needed. And please do not include medium pacers like Irfan Pathan, Jaydev Unadkat and L. Balaji for swing bowling. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar alone is far better than any of them. It is high time India started to take genuine fast bowlers seriously.

Posted by pgharii on (November 8, 2013, 21:26 GMT)

Though its heartening to see a "fast" bowler do well in India, its the sustenance that matters. Hope the team management makes an intelligent use of Shami and preserve him longer..

In the batting dept. wouldn't it be interesting to see Rohit opening along with Dhawan - basically having the same combination as in ODIs. He has the technique and temperament. It could be another Sehwag-Gambhir combination....

Posted by Vilander on (November 8, 2013, 20:57 GMT)

i think it should be Yadav and Shami in the second test.

Posted by India_boy on (November 8, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

@SamRoy, Pathan was genuine talent. he was spoiled by Greg and could never recover, he was a better batsman, better bowler and much much better fielder than any of those you mentioned including Ashwin. Cmo'n he took a test hat-trick in the opening over against in Pak against Pak who grow up playing such bowling. Ashwin is merely supported by MSD and CSK owners, just like Vijay and Raina. Mishra is ten times better than ashwin with a better stock delivery

Posted by SamRoy on (November 8, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

I don't know why People keep talking about Irfan Pathan. Yes, he was a tremendous one day cricketer but as a test bowler he lacked genuine class. Never in RP or Sreesanth's league in terms of talent. In fact if you look at his test bowling closely except for the 4 tests vs Zim and Bangladesh he averaged 45 against the rest of the teams. That is almost Agarkar bad....:) Ashwin is miles better than Irfan Pathan as a test cricketer though as a ODI cricketer Pathan was much better.

Posted by Nampally on (November 8, 2013, 19:45 GMT)

Shami bowled intelligently controlling both his length & direction. As Sammy rightly said he attacked the stumps all the time to get 6 guys bowled + couple of LBW's from his 9 wkt. haul. Shami's pace was consistently in 140 KPH zone which allowed little time for batsman to think, especially when he is not giving them much outside the range of stumps. The batsmen have to either defend or push their way but have to remain patient. This is where Shami won the battle- impatient WI batsmen! Also his skilled movement off the seam kept the batsmen guessing all the time. One would hope playing of the back foot gives them more time to adjust & play- also the right approach. Shami & B.Kumar is the right combo to open with. Only Zaheer (if fit) can add to this medium paced accurate Duo. Bowlers like Yadev, Kulkarni & Pandey who can bowl over 135 KPH need to take a page out of Shami's book. With Ashwin doing the All rounder duties, last 2 spots remain open for competition & Headache for Dhoni.

Posted by   on (November 8, 2013, 19:25 GMT)

Now we have 2 new ball bowlers who are poles apart in their style.

B.Kumar gets wickets ONLY in his first/2nd spells when the ball is New.

Shami Gets wickets when the ball becomes older. How good he is with the new ball, yet to be seen.

Posted by desi1 on (November 8, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

Shami reminds me of the pakistani pace bowler Aquib Javed. I hope he turns out as good as him.

Posted by   on (November 8, 2013, 18:31 GMT)

Rohit Sharma.. Man of the match.. Beautiful bowling shami.. he completely deserved it.

Posted by rdr_1019 on (November 8, 2013, 18:19 GMT)

Really good bowling effort by Shami! Great to see an Indian fast bowler getting some much deserved applause and encouragement for his efforts. Shami along with Bhuvi can form a lethal attack with their consistent line and length. To go along with them, we have Ojha and Ashwin in the spin department supported very well by Jadeja. The only thing India needs now is a fast bowling all-rounder to accomodate this team in overseas conditions. At the moment, only Irfan looks capable of fitting in that role. The batting line-up looks settled with Rohit all set to move up to No. 5 and Kohli to No. 4. The team for the sub-continent tracks looks all set with the following line-up. 1. Dhawan 2. Vijay 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Rohit 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10. Shami and 11. Ojha. For overseas conditions, we just need a fast-bowling all-rounder to replace Jadeja or Ojha. Things are looking good for future of Indian Cricket Team...All The Best !!!

Posted by InsideHedge on (November 8, 2013, 18:07 GMT)

If you recall the Ist Test match between India/Eng last winter, at Ahmedabad, there was a brilliant display from Umesh Yadav that helped India to take a lead in the series. Here, he bowled genuine reverse on what was an atrocious wicket - the ball was bouncing twice on its way to the wicket keeper in the opening over of the 1st day!

Unfortunately, Yadav got himself injured during that game, and never played in the remainder of the series. Meanwhile, better tracks - suited to India's strengths - were presented for the rest of the series and what followed was an unexpected comeback-from-behind Test series win for England.

Perhaps, something for both Windies and India to chew on. Let's not get carried away, I expect Windies to be much better in the 2nd Test. How often do we see visitors play well below their standards in the opening Test of a series?

Posted by InsideHedge on (November 8, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

I still think that for Test cricket where one needs to take wickets thru forcing a batsman into errors requires an opening bowler to possess the outswinger or the away taking delivery. This stock delivery is a potent weapon and requires tremendous skill.

The delivery that comes into the batsman is really handy in limited overs cricket where often a batsman needs to be cramped to prevent him from freeing his arms.

Posted by InsideHedge on (November 8, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

So it's really traditional in seam movement. The term "reverse" has been grossly exaggerated.

Posted by Temuzin on (November 8, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

Good analysis Sid. The fact that Shami could do it out of all other pace bowlers stands him in good. He will learn and if he doesn't become complacent, he got a bright future in Indian team.

Posted by   on (November 8, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

Looks like our pacer are ready for SOUTH AFRICA.But the sereis is going to stern test for our young batsman.

Posted by   on (November 8, 2013, 17:44 GMT)

One might actually go not so long back to the 2008 Border-Gavaskar Trophy in India. Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma were getting the ball to reverse more often than not within the first ten overs of taking the new ball. I distinctly remember Ishant, never a fan of bowling it full, pitching it on a length quite handsomely outside the of stump to right handers and some of those jagged back into them - simply unplayable. Someone like Ponting or Watson had a nightmare handling that. The fact that Shami delivers from close to the stumps potentially makes him a bigger threat than Ishant used to be those days because in the latter's case, the batsmen would at least be ready for the ball coming in at a certain angle.

Posted by Cricketfreak18 on (November 8, 2013, 17:41 GMT)

This guy is actually GOOD.. He should've got the Man of the Match Award! Rohit's 177?? I mean really?? Even Ashwin got a century.. And topped it with 5 wickets for the match.. Should at least have been Ashwin MoM.. Rohit didnt deserve it. Period!

Posted by maheshbalakrishnan on (November 8, 2013, 17:23 GMT)

shami s bowling and swing reminded me of waqar younis at his peak

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