West Indies in India 2013-14 November 19, 2013

West Indies looked drunk on T20 during Tests - Lloyd

ESPNcricinfo staff

Darren Sammy's West Indies "looked drunk" on too much Twenty20 cricket during their 2-0 Test series defeat to India. That is the critical opinion expressed by Clive Lloyd, the former West Indies captain, who led the most dominating Test team of all times in mid-1970s and 80s.

Before coming to India, West Indies had won six Tests, against opponents ranked below them in the ICC Test rankings. However, they participated in one of the most one-sided contests as West Indies lost both in Kolkata and Mumbai inside three days, suffering humiliating innings defeats.

Lloyd, asked whether the defeat was due to a Twenty20 hangover, was emphatic in his response. "T20 hangover? I think they looked drunk," he told The Indian Express at an event in Pune on Monday. "I personally believe that T20 is something that brings people to the game, brings money to players and if it's doing that then you have to stick with it. However, a diet of too much T20 can be very harmful. I believe T20 is an exhibition while Test cricket is an examination. If you can separate them, then it is absolutely fine. However, I don't want the first thing that young players want to learn is to hit the ball out of the ground. Proper technique and the vital rudiments of the game are very important," Lloyd said.

According to Lloyd the balance of the squad, a weak bowling attack and the inability of batsmen to adapt from shorter formats to Tests were the areas West Indies need to improve on. "It has been a deeply disappointing tour. The team needs to have a hard look at itself and they have a lot of work to do," he said.

During their four innings, not once did West Indies play 100 overs. The closest was the 78.2 overs in the first innings at Eden Gardens. Only two batsmen managed to score fifties. Throughout the series, Chris Gayle, Kieran Powell, Darren Bravo, Marlon Samuels and Sammy, all went for attacking shots before settling in.

"I think and I hope that the West Indian batsmen have learned their lessons after watching how the Indian batsmen went about their business," Lloyd said. "The Indians can play aggressive ODI cricket but they can also transform into Test players, show restraint and bat for long periods.

"You simply cannot play some of the shots that a few of the (West Indian) batsmen played. The batting unit is pretty young, but these young batters need to learn how to apply themselves in a Test-match situation," he said.

As much as he blamed the batsmen, Lloyd also pointed to the lack of good fast bowlers as another big reason West Indies failed to rally back. "In the first Test when we had them at 120 odd for five, we really missed quality bowlers. We were short on penetrative bowling. I believe that any side you choose, be it ODI or Test, it needs to have balance. Sadly, there is no visible balance in this side," Lloyd said.

And that is where Lloyd felt West Indies selectors have the onerous task of figuring out what to do with Sammy. The West Indies captain made a total of 25 runs in the four innings and went wicketless, forcing questions to be asked of his role as an allrounder in the team.

"Sammy as a captain has brought the guys together. They are definitely looking a better bunch under his leadership. But now, I think people are taking a look at the balance of the side. I believe that when a team is losing, the captain is the first person to be blamed. However, having said that, he (Sammy) needs to take a look at himself, put his hand up and the selectors need to take a decision on his future," Lloyd said.

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  • Ali on November 23, 2013, 19:37 GMT

    Test cricket requires much more talent and temperament. West Indies have not played real test cricket for a long time. They have avoided home test series against Pakistan in favor of ODI series and T20. It is responsibility of board to give them enough test cricket and give them exposure and sort our right players. Test cricket require specialist batsman what west indies have bunch of allrounders and individual performances. West Indies are playing Test Cricket like T20 and finishing 5 day game under 2 and half day. I fear test cricket will be left to only four nations if two effort is put in place by ICC and respective boards.

  • Mil on November 23, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    Sammy and Gibson have no leadership credentials. Both are wannabe test cricketers. Gibson hardly played any test cricket and Sammy played all of his by default. They are both clueless when it comes to test cricket.The 5 batsmen strategy in the first test is a good example. Did they really believe they can compete with India in the first test of the series with Ramdin at 6 and Dhoni and Ashwin at 7 and 8? Secondly, Sammy as captian continues to deprive the team of a specialist batsman or bowler or an allrounder like Deonarine. As a captain his strategy is to let Shilingford bowl a million overs and hope. When India were 89 for6 and in trouble against spin, Permaul only got the ball 2 overs before lunch. Looks like a strategy by Sammy to put his competitors in a position to fail. Remember how Deonarine bowled against Austrailia on those rare occasions when he was given the ball? Like Bishoo, Deonarine and Permaul will be victims of Sammy's self interest to protect himself and Shillingfo

  • Indika on November 23, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    @ Everyone:

    How much more humiliating can the current situation of WI Cricket get with all that's happening with the tour of India? (Performance, suspicious bowling, fitness)

    For anyone who has read my previous posts on different reports, articles and blogs published in Cricinfo would know how much passionate I am about WI cricket.

    Where are the BOWLERS? Batting is there: needs some good guidance by some past Legends. Fielding can improve too.


    Without the aforementioned qualities WI cricket can't get no where.

    Coaching, team management and selection committees need to be changed and upgraded. I've had enough with THAT ASPECT.

    I'm a simple fan. So will these ever get implemented?

    I'm not sure. But I will go on supporting WI HOPING FOR A CHANGE.


    I'm not from WI. But I'm a TRUE FAN. PERIOD.

  • Dummy4 on November 21, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    Gayle not scoring it is Sammy fault. Samuels reported again for suspect bowling action, Sammy's fault.Tino Best bowling and acting like my five yrs old again sammy's fault. Darren Bravo underachieving. Sammy's fault.As a matter of fact Sammy should just be a one man team. after all he is expected to do all the batting, fielding and bowling. Where are the self proclaim stars who are under performing deliberately. West Indies in my humble opinion, although may not be popular should have stuck with their replacement team when the senior players went rogue. Everybody has poor series. This was Sammy"s poorest. But since Gayle has returned to west indies cricket how many scores has he made as a batsman. Stop blaming Sammy and ask the players on the field to do their damn jobs. They are being paid handsomely.

  • Dummy4 on November 21, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Peter, you are right. If not Sammy, then who? That is the question that no one can answer, right now. A specialist captain will have to do until then.

  • Douglas on November 20, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    Windies need a real batsman at #3 - Bring back Sarwan!

  • Dummy4 on November 20, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    WELL SAID MR. LLOYD. Now the world know how the true lovers of WI cricket feel . The President must summons Selectors and take a serious look at the "foolishness" the continue to dish out and put on the field of play . TIME FOR SOME ACTION.

  • Syed on November 20, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Darren Sammy, not a test match bowler and batsman, and he is the captain of the side, what a joke. Sammy is only good for T20, may be.

  • azad on November 20, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    West Indies cricket is at the crossroad and what is needed is the people with the competency and skill to propel forward.The selectors and the captain must be replaced.the West Indies cricket board must get their act together and start to manage our cricket or resign and elect a new team for the job.Many respondence are attacking Ramdin.Since his return to test cricket in 2012 his batting is very consistent.Tests 11, Inns 16, N O 4, Runs 561,100's 2, 50's 3, Ave. 46.8,Catches 30,Stp. 2.He is also the best gloveman in the West Indies and is acclaimed as a top class wicket keeper in world cricket.Compare the other wicketkeepers for the same period. Prior ENG 25/40/7/1274/1/8/38.6/63/7; Dhoni IND14/21/4/819/1/5/48.2/26/9;Haddin AUS 9/15/3/310/0/2/26.9/44/0;Wade AUS 12/22/4/623/2/3/34.6/33/3;DeVilas SA 13/20/1180/4/4/65.6/47/1;Waltings NZ 10/16/2/585/2/4/41.8/27/0;Jayawardene SL 9/12/1/306/0/1/23.5/16/6;Rahim BAN 8/13/0/651/1/4/50.1/19/1;Akmal PAK 11/18/5/347/0/2/23.1/27/6.

  • ANDREW on November 20, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    The WI selectors are either blind or don't care about winning. To win they must pick a team with the best players in the Caribbean who are performing. Players should not retain a place in the side when they are failing. Kirk Edwards played nine test matches and have an average of 39.11 with two centuries and four fifties. He failed in two test matches in England and was dropped. Those of you who have mentioned names like Barath, Fletcher, Pollard, Deonarine, simmons and Thomas need to really take a good look at they performances in first class cricket and test. They are not going to help the WI test team. Barath played 15 test and averaged 23.46, Simmons played 8 test with an average of 17.37, and Deonarine played 15 test with an average of 27.68. So why are they being mention, i would like to know the reasoning behind it. The WI team need a #3 batsman because Bravo and Samuel cannot get the job done at that position.

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