India v West Indies, 1st ODI, Kochi November 22, 2013

'Luck, momentum on India's side' - Bravo

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Dwayne Bravo, the West Indies captain, said luck did not favour his side during the first ODI against India, but refused to blame the slow and uneven Kochi pitch for his side's heavy defeat. Marlon Samuels and Darren Bravo, two of the visitors' top batsmen, were dismissed by deliveries that stayed alarmingly low. West Indies were 77 for 2 and 183 for 5 before they lost those batsmen, and managed only 211, which India hunted down in 35.2 overs.

"Can't blame the wicket. Both teams play on it. Nothing changes," Bravo said. "Unfortunately we end up [with] luck not going our way. India are playing good cricket at the moment and the luck and momentum is on their side. We have to dig deeper and work harder as a team and hopefully those things can change. Marlon Samuels got a ball that kept very low, so did my brother. Two of our better players got starts and were unable to carry one because of deliveries that kept very low. In the Indian innings some balls kept low as well but they were not on the wickets.

"We were 40 runs short. We had a good start even after we lost Chris Gayle early. Johnson Charles and Samuels put up a good partnership. We set a target of 280-285 but could manage only 211. We were on our target but we kept losing wickets. During the first 15 overs of both innings, we were on target. It is difficult for tailenders to bat during the last seven-eight overs in an ODI."

West Indies were dealt an early blow after their star batsman Gayle was run out for a duck and suffered a hamstring tear on his left leg. Gayle is likely to miss the remaining two ODIs and the start of the New Zealand tour immediately after this series. "Losing Chris is always a big blow for us," Bravo said. "He is our best player. Psychologically, having Gayle at the top is good for us, so losing Gayle at this time and not having [Kieron] Pollard - two of our best players - it is hard for us to fill those two places. It leaves the door open for two guys to come in and get an opportunity against the No. 1 team, the world champions, to make a name for themselves."

Bravo felt his bowlers were lacking in control, although he commended them for their efforts in trying to defend 211. "The Indian bowlers executed their plans very well. They realised that the straighter they bowl it is harder to score. We did not maintain that discipline long enough as a bowling group. Therefore we end up on the losing side. Two hundred and eleven is not enough runs batting first on a small outfield. Yes, a couple of balls kept low but I still think we can do a lot better.

"I think our bowlers gave their heart out. Both [Ravi] Rampaul and [Jason] Holder bowled very well and gave their 100 per cent in their second spell. Fielding was good at times. [Sunil] Narine played his apart again. As a captain, [I am] pleased with the effort by the bowling group."

West Indies' hopes of making the chase difficult for India were dashed by Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma, who put on 133 for the second wicket. Bravo said it was hard to stop such quality players when they were in top form.

"When you look at the Australian series, the Tests and even today, they are at the top of their game. They played very well today and everything is going in their way. [It is] always difficult to bowl to batsmen in such form with that quality. They are world-class players. They are playing at home and know the conditions better than us. Difference between both teams is that when their batsmen get starts they carry on and put their team in a winning position. That is something we have to learn. Chasing 211, once two of your top batters get fifties, the game is over."

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  • cricktwins on November 23, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    @hardy1 if dhoni is injured then dinesh karthik or samson can take the role of wicket keeping... Captaincy can be given to 2 people 1) virat kohli-young, u-19 captain.. 2) Yuvraj singh-experienced, good ODI, senior player with 290 odi's.. Calm and finishing ability of dhoni will be missed for sure..

  • on November 23, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Agreed samuels & darren were unlucky as the ball stayed very low but then what were the rest doing including the skipper. he should have stayed til the end but went for a reckless shot as the WI often do.A the end they have some wise words to say in PC but when will v see the application. With gayle out i think its golden oppurtunity for someone at the top to make a name for himself bcos WC 15 is not far away. Moreover they r touring NZ [one of the co-hosts] next month. So time to hit the straps or else they would vanish in thin air.

  • kevivnajar on November 23, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    @hardy1: True, we need to bring in D.Karthik or Sanju Samson (Preferably Sanju) into the squad as a back-up keeper and make him play some ODI's before WC 2015 so that he can be Dhoni's wicket-keeping substitute in case of injuries. We need a reserve keeper in the WC squad very badly. (unless MS trains Ashwin on keeping -close to the slips, you see...LOL :-)

  • Hardy1 on November 22, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    Not to mention the fact that any replacement wicket keeper would be inexperienced at the international level since Dhoni has played practically every game for India for the last 8 years.

  • Hardy1 on November 22, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    The Indian team seems to be on the up & that's great to see, but I worry about how the team would perform in the absence of MS Dhoni. I think he will be very important in the period leading up to & including the 2015 World Cup. After that I think the team will be more experienced & able to perform without him (someone like Virat or Rohit would be ready to captain) but for now, if he were to suffer an injury there'd be a major problem. Who else can you have confidence in to captain the side?

  • samincolumbia on November 22, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    Luck? Looks like Bravo is listening to Sanga and Matthew's speeches every time they lose to India. Of course, when they win, once in a while, luck is not involved..lolz.

  • Harmony111 on November 22, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Bravo is not much wrong here. There is a diff in mindset when you chase 205 or when you chase 250. It is also true that WI lost two wickets to balls that kept really low. Yes Rohit Sharma managed to put one out that kept low but when he was batting he knew some balls were going to keep low.

    Gayle's loss is huge and so is Shillingoford's but he has been reported for a suspect action. I would love to see a few sparkling knocks from the stroke loving WI batsmen. That would really lighten up the night sky & the mood.

  • BRUTALANALYST on November 22, 2013, 15:57 GMT

    I mean why is Shillingford not even selected in the squad here for the ODI's ? Ridiculous, he was the only highlight of the Test series and even out-bowled the Indian spinners.The progessive Indian selectors however identified Shami in the Tests and back him in the Odi's W.I don;t have any logic though.Part time Deonarine replaced with a proper spinner like Shillingford Sammy replaced by either Jonathan Carter who looks a very promising batsman (100 v India A and glimpses in CPL) or another proper batsman like Edwards you'd have a more balanced competitive side out here instead of the bits and pieces nowhere men.

  • BRUTALANALYST on November 22, 2013, 15:18 GMT

    Dwayne Bravo and Darren Sammy two different sides of the same useless coin, there dismissals were pathetic both threw it away and the way Holder was batting he should come before Sammy next game and try and keep the strike in fact he may as well open, why not ? he appears to have the best technique of the side !

  • on November 22, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    India has found a perfect balance right now. With regards to luck, cricket is known for it. All sides have their share of luck or unluck. The question is how you use it. India at the moment is able convert their luck with the uise of their skill and experience into their adavantage. Bravo and the gang needs to learn that. Same will be used against South Africa. Okay they have fast bowlers but Indians have palye against them a lot they know what to expect. I full confidence in the current unit. they can beat anyone with or without luck but with skill and experience.

  • cricktwins on November 23, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    @hardy1 if dhoni is injured then dinesh karthik or samson can take the role of wicket keeping... Captaincy can be given to 2 people 1) virat kohli-young, u-19 captain.. 2) Yuvraj singh-experienced, good ODI, senior player with 290 odi's.. Calm and finishing ability of dhoni will be missed for sure..

  • on November 23, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Agreed samuels & darren were unlucky as the ball stayed very low but then what were the rest doing including the skipper. he should have stayed til the end but went for a reckless shot as the WI often do.A the end they have some wise words to say in PC but when will v see the application. With gayle out i think its golden oppurtunity for someone at the top to make a name for himself bcos WC 15 is not far away. Moreover they r touring NZ [one of the co-hosts] next month. So time to hit the straps or else they would vanish in thin air.

  • kevivnajar on November 23, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    @hardy1: True, we need to bring in D.Karthik or Sanju Samson (Preferably Sanju) into the squad as a back-up keeper and make him play some ODI's before WC 2015 so that he can be Dhoni's wicket-keeping substitute in case of injuries. We need a reserve keeper in the WC squad very badly. (unless MS trains Ashwin on keeping -close to the slips, you see...LOL :-)

  • Hardy1 on November 22, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    Not to mention the fact that any replacement wicket keeper would be inexperienced at the international level since Dhoni has played practically every game for India for the last 8 years.

  • Hardy1 on November 22, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    The Indian team seems to be on the up & that's great to see, but I worry about how the team would perform in the absence of MS Dhoni. I think he will be very important in the period leading up to & including the 2015 World Cup. After that I think the team will be more experienced & able to perform without him (someone like Virat or Rohit would be ready to captain) but for now, if he were to suffer an injury there'd be a major problem. Who else can you have confidence in to captain the side?

  • samincolumbia on November 22, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    Luck? Looks like Bravo is listening to Sanga and Matthew's speeches every time they lose to India. Of course, when they win, once in a while, luck is not involved..lolz.

  • Harmony111 on November 22, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Bravo is not much wrong here. There is a diff in mindset when you chase 205 or when you chase 250. It is also true that WI lost two wickets to balls that kept really low. Yes Rohit Sharma managed to put one out that kept low but when he was batting he knew some balls were going to keep low.

    Gayle's loss is huge and so is Shillingoford's but he has been reported for a suspect action. I would love to see a few sparkling knocks from the stroke loving WI batsmen. That would really lighten up the night sky & the mood.

  • BRUTALANALYST on November 22, 2013, 15:57 GMT

    I mean why is Shillingford not even selected in the squad here for the ODI's ? Ridiculous, he was the only highlight of the Test series and even out-bowled the Indian spinners.The progessive Indian selectors however identified Shami in the Tests and back him in the Odi's W.I don;t have any logic though.Part time Deonarine replaced with a proper spinner like Shillingford Sammy replaced by either Jonathan Carter who looks a very promising batsman (100 v India A and glimpses in CPL) or another proper batsman like Edwards you'd have a more balanced competitive side out here instead of the bits and pieces nowhere men.

  • BRUTALANALYST on November 22, 2013, 15:18 GMT

    Dwayne Bravo and Darren Sammy two different sides of the same useless coin, there dismissals were pathetic both threw it away and the way Holder was batting he should come before Sammy next game and try and keep the strike in fact he may as well open, why not ? he appears to have the best technique of the side !

  • on November 22, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    India has found a perfect balance right now. With regards to luck, cricket is known for it. All sides have their share of luck or unluck. The question is how you use it. India at the moment is able convert their luck with the uise of their skill and experience into their adavantage. Bravo and the gang needs to learn that. Same will be used against South Africa. Okay they have fast bowlers but Indians have palye against them a lot they know what to expect. I full confidence in the current unit. they can beat anyone with or without luck but with skill and experience.

  • Nampally on November 22, 2013, 14:25 GMT

    Dwayne Bravo is absolutely right when he says that top Indian batsmen are World class players who are in form. It is not easy to bowl to either Dhawan, Rohit or Kohli. They can belt the ball as if it is a T20 match. Added to that Dhoni is the best Finisher in the ODI cricket in the world today. Indian bowling has put its missing pawns in place. Jadeja, Ashwin & Raina are good spinners. On Kochi wkt. with variable bounce + 2 paced, they were bit over whelming for the WI batting. It must be recognized also that Indian fielding has improved significantly in the past 2 years. Jadeja, Kohli, Raina are 3 of the best fielders which any team in the World can boast of. With Shami's addition to support Bhivi Kumar, the missing slot in the pace attack has been filled. No wonder India is today #1 team in the World. The difference between India & WI was aptly demonstrated today with an over whelming victory. Gayle's early dismissal was the turning point & the match was sealed then & there!

  • Impostor on November 22, 2013, 13:41 GMT

    "A drowning man will clutch at a straw", so they say. To blame "luck" is about as low as one can get and as far as I am concerned, is simply a cry of desperation. How can one dig-in if one does not have the tools (skills?) to even scratch the surface? On the other hand, maybe they have dug in so deep that they can climb out.

    In my view, the WI are trying their best. The failure is not due to lack of effort, but rather the lack of sound cricketing techniques. I have been watching them keenly over the past few years and honestly, I can't see any hope that WI will improve soon. The most important question in my mind is why are the upcoming WI players not cultivating sound cricket techniques. Are there any knowledgeable cricket coaches left in the primary in secondary schools? This is the perfect place to set a foundation, as young players are most eager to learn. Later, as they develop, the best players will slightly modify these techniques to suit their own styles.

    "GOOD LUCK", Bravo!

  • Jalz007 on November 22, 2013, 13:22 GMT

    Lovely comments!!! especially @CricketMaan & Niju_00, guys you really don't spare these cricketers...... I wish the West Indies Team reads it!!!It should give them a reality check...

  • Niju_001 on November 22, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    West Indies team certainly looked drunk as Clive Lloyd said... but India played flawlessly which is commendable. Rohit and Virat are at their best form and they are turning all matches almost one sided. Many blame Indian team as flat track bullies and all such insane critics are waiting for the SA series to come to see India falter. All major teams falter against good pace attack under testing conditions. What happened to England in Australia? Mitchell Johnson tore them apart. What would you call that? Any good batsmen will fail against a pacy ball coming to your chin.. Kallis modern crickets greatest all rounder was cleaned by our very own bad boy Sreesanth.. if Kallis suffered that at his very own homeground then why blame our Indian cricketers?

  • on November 22, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    Flat track bully India has lately won a few games in its own backyard and are on top of the world so to speak. Well, just wait and see how the flat track bullies are brought back to earth in the upcoming series against South Africa. As for the comment made by Bravo, 110% correct.India has luck and momentum. Notming more nothing less.

  • mmmuthukumar on November 22, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    Bring Chanders back to the team as opener to tie one end up. Give him the duty till WC2015.

  • CricketMaan on November 22, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Luck? and 40 runs short. Dwanye there were 88 balls and 6 wickets left when India sealed the game. You dont expect the balls to go above knee high even in carabiean these days do you? and you were not playing on Perth or Jamaica. You have played more than enough IPL to know that. Accpet on the given day you were short. Now you can still come back in the next 2 ODIs, but that is not going to be dependent on luck, but skills.

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on November 22, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    xylo: 'how equally the teams are matched'. Ha ha haaa. Good fun.

  • himanshu.team on November 22, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    I think when he says 'Luck' is on India's side, he means that India is playing WI instead of South Africa

  • xylo on November 22, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    A series between Pakistan and West Indies should be exciting given how equally the teams are matched.

  • wirus on November 22, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    Problem is that even when India beat them 3-0 the same delusional talk will persist. WI had two choices in this series: either send the WI A team led by either Edwards or Powell, i.e. the team that competed so well and won in India just weeks ago or send a team of the most experienced and skilled players we have, even if they are over 32 years old or whatever the throw away age is these days;player who know how to graft and fight and who don't see themselves as stars but rather just West Indians thrilled to be playing for WI. Again and again over the past 20 years we have tossed aside a grafting, fighting batsmen or bowlers all because they weren't flashy, couldn't entertain like Lara or Richards and couldn't terrify batsmen like Marshall or Ambrose. We replaced them with flashy, young players who had not proven themselves at home or abroad in first class cricket. Then we choose similarly inept captains to talk about learning lessons and luck. It's not too late to reverse this mistake.

  • SamRoy on November 22, 2013, 7:29 GMT

    One thing the WI players and former players need to concede is lack of ability. No one concedes it and that has been their biggest detriment. Can't play swing bowling (remember Mitch Starc made each one of them look like a tailender last year) and can't play spin bowling. Team full of awesome strikers but not proper batsman. Fast bowlers too (except Rampaul) can't swing the cricket ball. It all adds upto to a lak of ability. A request to WICB and former cricketers. Stop telling that your current cricketers are talented. You are not a talented batsman if you can't survive good bowling. You are a talented shotmaker (ala Yuvraj Singh) but not a proper talented batsman.

  • Cpt.Meanster on November 22, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    I don't agree with everything Bravo says here. Momentum may be with India, but they had the SAME luck as the WI in this series. It's just that India are much superior team to the WI. Why won't these guys admit it ? I watched the whole game and the West Indies batting was poor. And their bowling was equally appalling. It all begins with you Mr. Captain Bravo. You have to lead by example; not by playing an irresponsible shot when the team needed you to stick around. First it was Sammy who let down the team during the tests and now Dwayne Bravo. They are living in self denial and in a delusional world. I guess India will have to beat them 3-0 to get them to pinch themselves. Very poor from the Windies.

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  • Cpt.Meanster on November 22, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    I don't agree with everything Bravo says here. Momentum may be with India, but they had the SAME luck as the WI in this series. It's just that India are much superior team to the WI. Why won't these guys admit it ? I watched the whole game and the West Indies batting was poor. And their bowling was equally appalling. It all begins with you Mr. Captain Bravo. You have to lead by example; not by playing an irresponsible shot when the team needed you to stick around. First it was Sammy who let down the team during the tests and now Dwayne Bravo. They are living in self denial and in a delusional world. I guess India will have to beat them 3-0 to get them to pinch themselves. Very poor from the Windies.

  • SamRoy on November 22, 2013, 7:29 GMT

    One thing the WI players and former players need to concede is lack of ability. No one concedes it and that has been their biggest detriment. Can't play swing bowling (remember Mitch Starc made each one of them look like a tailender last year) and can't play spin bowling. Team full of awesome strikers but not proper batsman. Fast bowlers too (except Rampaul) can't swing the cricket ball. It all adds upto to a lak of ability. A request to WICB and former cricketers. Stop telling that your current cricketers are talented. You are not a talented batsman if you can't survive good bowling. You are a talented shotmaker (ala Yuvraj Singh) but not a proper talented batsman.

  • wirus on November 22, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    Problem is that even when India beat them 3-0 the same delusional talk will persist. WI had two choices in this series: either send the WI A team led by either Edwards or Powell, i.e. the team that competed so well and won in India just weeks ago or send a team of the most experienced and skilled players we have, even if they are over 32 years old or whatever the throw away age is these days;player who know how to graft and fight and who don't see themselves as stars but rather just West Indians thrilled to be playing for WI. Again and again over the past 20 years we have tossed aside a grafting, fighting batsmen or bowlers all because they weren't flashy, couldn't entertain like Lara or Richards and couldn't terrify batsmen like Marshall or Ambrose. We replaced them with flashy, young players who had not proven themselves at home or abroad in first class cricket. Then we choose similarly inept captains to talk about learning lessons and luck. It's not too late to reverse this mistake.

  • xylo on November 22, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    A series between Pakistan and West Indies should be exciting given how equally the teams are matched.

  • himanshu.team on November 22, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    I think when he says 'Luck' is on India's side, he means that India is playing WI instead of South Africa

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on November 22, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    xylo: 'how equally the teams are matched'. Ha ha haaa. Good fun.

  • CricketMaan on November 22, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Luck? and 40 runs short. Dwanye there were 88 balls and 6 wickets left when India sealed the game. You dont expect the balls to go above knee high even in carabiean these days do you? and you were not playing on Perth or Jamaica. You have played more than enough IPL to know that. Accpet on the given day you were short. Now you can still come back in the next 2 ODIs, but that is not going to be dependent on luck, but skills.

  • mmmuthukumar on November 22, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    Bring Chanders back to the team as opener to tie one end up. Give him the duty till WC2015.

  • on November 22, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    Flat track bully India has lately won a few games in its own backyard and are on top of the world so to speak. Well, just wait and see how the flat track bullies are brought back to earth in the upcoming series against South Africa. As for the comment made by Bravo, 110% correct.India has luck and momentum. Notming more nothing less.

  • Niju_001 on November 22, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    West Indies team certainly looked drunk as Clive Lloyd said... but India played flawlessly which is commendable. Rohit and Virat are at their best form and they are turning all matches almost one sided. Many blame Indian team as flat track bullies and all such insane critics are waiting for the SA series to come to see India falter. All major teams falter against good pace attack under testing conditions. What happened to England in Australia? Mitchell Johnson tore them apart. What would you call that? Any good batsmen will fail against a pacy ball coming to your chin.. Kallis modern crickets greatest all rounder was cleaned by our very own bad boy Sreesanth.. if Kallis suffered that at his very own homeground then why blame our Indian cricketers?