India v West Indies, 2nd ODI, Visakhapatnam

West Indies slip and stumble, but draw level

The Report by Sidharth Monga

November 24, 2013

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West Indies 289 for 8 (Sammy 63*, Simmons 62, Powell 59, Darren Bravo 50, Ashwin 2-37) beat India 288 for 7 (Kohli 99, Dhoni 51*, Rampaul 4-60) by two wickets
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Darren Sammy targets the leg side, 2nd ODI, Visakhapatnam, November 24, 2013
Darren Sammy kept calm as his team-mates fell around him © BCCI

Chasing 289 on an outfield that looked like it was wet because of persistent rain and not dew, West Indies had it all to lose, and some of their batsmen tried their best to do so. Ultimately, the cool head of deposed ODI captain Darren Sammy prevailed to level the series 1-1. Kieran Powell and the brothers Bravo threw their wickets away, and Lendl Simmons tried to do so unsuccessfully, but Sammy timed the final assault well to carry a stumbling West Indies to their first win of the tour.

The West Indies bowling towards the end of the Indian innings played a key role in keeping the series alive. India were 194 for 3 when the 36th over began, with Virat Kohli on course for an 18th ODI century. Ravi Rampaul, Jason Holder and Sunil Narine pulled them back, and Kohli fell for 99. Narine bowled his last five overs, coming back in the 37th, for just eight runs, bowling two maidens while Rampaul took the wickets. Despite MS Dhoni's assault towards the end, a total of 95 in the last 15 overs meant a manageable chase, which became easier as the dew got heavier.

The balls must have felt like bars of soap to India and had to be changed on three occasions. They skidded on, negating the slowness of the surface that had pulled India back when the conditions were dry. West Indies, though, were benevolent. Darren Bravo was dropped three times in four deliveries before he went to cut a length ball from R Ashwin and was dismissed. That ended West Indies' best partnership of the tour, an even 100, and left Powell kicking the ground in disgust at the other end.

Soon, Powell would show an equal lack of situational awareness. In the 26th and the 27th over, both the wet balls were changed for drier ones. And once again, Powell had the best seat in the house to learn from his partner's mistake. Lendl Simmons went driving at the first delivery of the 26th over, but the drier ball gripped and turned past the bat. The second took the edge, and fell short of slip. Powell, though, wasn't observing, and premeditated a skip-and-defence to the first dry ball he faced, missing the line of the ball by at least six inches, and getting stumped by a mile. That was R Ashwin's second wicket; he bowled 10 overs for 37, a big achievement for a spinner in wet conditions.

At 123 for 2, West Indies needed 166 in 28 overs; at 185 for 4, the 104 required off 15.4 overs seemed even more manageable with a wet ball. Somehow, they managed to throw it away on both occasions, this time Dwayne Bravo pulling to the only man in the deep. Sammy, though, came out and showed his team-mates how to do it.

Smart stats

  • This was West Indies' fourth-highest successful run chase in ODIs and their first win chasing a target of 280 or more in their previous 26 attempts. The last time they won chasing 280 or more was against England at Lord's in 2004.
  • There were four scores of fifty or more runs from the West Indies batsmen today. This is only the second such instance for West Indies in ODIs. The only other such instance came against England in Kingston in 1994.
  • Lendl Simmons was Ravindra Jadeja's 50th ODI wicket in 2013. Only two other India bowlers - Anil Kumble and Ajit Agarkar - have taken 50 or more wickets in a year in ODIs.
  • Darren Sammy's half-century in this match was only the 13th by a West Indies batsman batting at No. 7. The last time this happened was also against India, when Andre Russell hit 53 in Chennai in 2011.
  • MS Dhoni hit the 50th half-century of his ODI-career in this match, becoming the sixth India batsman to hit 50 or more ODI half-centuries. His 50 half-centuries have come batting in the middle-order (No. 4 to No. 7). He is the 12th batsman in ODIs to hit fifty (or more) scores of fifty-plus runs batting in the middle-order.
  • R Ashwin's bowling figures of 2 for 37 in this match were his best against West Indies in ODIs. Ashwin has taken 14 wickets against them, at 36.42, in 12 ODIs.

Sammy began with two singles, then played out a maiden from Ravindra Jadeja, but that didn't worry him. His partner Simmons always tried a big shot whenever he faced a few dots. Sammy, though, knew he could wait. Unlike in the Tests, he backed his game here.

The maiden that Sammy was played was at the start of the Powerplay. There was a concerted effort from Sammy and Simmons to not lose a wicket in the Powerplay - India had lost two for 15. West Indies too managed only 15, but they had wickets in hand to score 86 off the last 10 overs.

Sammy began the assault in the 41st over, taking 12 off Mohammed Shami, and it was clear West Indies were edging ahead. Simmons, though, nearly threw it away in the 42nd but was dropped by Yuvraj Singh at long-on. Perhaps the wetness of the ball caused that slip, but it came a night before India discuss Yuvraj's shaky position for the tour of South Africa.

Sammy kept backing himself to clear the field whenever he wanted to, but he also played with the field, beating short fine leg on more than occasion while dragging short balls from outside off. Every time an attempted yorker went too full, Sammy put it into the crowd. He had to contend with one final brain fade, though.

West Indies needed 22 off 19 when Jadeja got one to skid and trap Simmons in front. The game was still in West Indies' grip, which was tightened with a four and a six from Sammy in the next over. This is where Jason Holder and Sunil Narine went for the glory, and made it four required off nine deliveries with two wickets in hand.

Sammy, however, made sure he had crossed over before Narine's top edge was caught, and took a single to keep strike for the last over. The field came up, but the runs were scored, and Kohli's effort earlier in the day - which could have made him the first man to have scored five centuries each in consecutive years - was overshadowed.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by legendscricket on (November 26, 2013, 0:15 GMT)

Kudos to WESTINDIES; I PICKED THEM TO WIN FOR TWO REASONS;They have the talent,and Their PRIDE AS WINDIES CRICKETERS.I saw a group of Fihting men,Men who realized that they have a duty and responsibility to return the Team to the pinnacle of respectability as WINDIES cricketers. I KID YOU NOT; I EXPECT BRAVO,SAMMY, SAMUEL & KIERNAN Powell to go about the business of leading this team to victory over INDIA.Marlon Samuels I am calling you out.GET IT TOGETHER, YOU CAN DO A LOT BETTER-SO get on with it.The Bravos are expected to play leadership cricket, focus-place a high price on your wickets-50S Are not good enough from you guys,Carry on.Good knock by Sammy, you need to continue playing responsible with the bat;Congrats to the team for Winning-I expect nothing less-no excuses-rain, dew whatever, lets win some series,play ball.

Posted by roook on (November 25, 2013, 23:48 GMT)

Cannot compare India with once mighty undefeatable Australian Team. They have set such a high benchmark it seems impossible to reach. Indian pace bowling is a big question mark and a big huddle in claiming to be no 1. How many you will see full tosses instead of yorkers. Decent Pace bowling is the only weak link in Indian lineup and this is a big point to proof on South Africa tour.

Posted by NCassie on (November 25, 2013, 23:25 GMT)

Good effort the selectors need to drop Samuels and let Ramdin come back in and wicket keep at Charles cannot do both.

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (November 25, 2013, 16:46 GMT)

@Albert_cambell, congratulations for getting many replies. I think that is what you were expecting after posting some funny comments. Your comment on Pakistan being best from Sub-Continent was so foolish that even Pak fans don't want to get into your foolish trap. btw what do you mean by UAE not home ground for Pakistan? Why is Pak not playing in home grounds? What do you really mean by best team? Until I saw your comments I thought SA fans are sensible like their team but you have proven me wrong and opened my eyes. Pak definitely has good players especialy bowlers but not good as a unit and they are far behind in proving their batting talent.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

The West Indies need to get a grip of themselves and get in the big game temperment. They have to waking up!

Posted by FreddyForPrimeMinister on (November 25, 2013, 15:11 GMT)

Thrilled to bits for Sammy. A real gentleman who is horribly criticized for not being good enough, when the truth is that there are simply no better WI players at present - hardly his fault. The guy always gives his all and he deserves every success he gets - I just hope the WI fans both back and applaud him.

Posted by meervys on (November 25, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

It was interesting to hear Bravos post match comment...did not really acknowledge Sammy's effort.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

why is everyone getting carried away?? come on fellow West Indians how many times have we seen this happen?? we win 1 match and suddenly all else is forgotten. . we can't sweep things under the bed and just forget its there! !! lets put a string of "good" displays together before we talk!!

Posted by RajeshNaik on (November 25, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

@Albert_cambell: You are spot on, man. I am in total agreement with you. But our cricket fans live for the present. Forget the past. I do not know about Shami because he looks good to last for another 5 years at least, ONLY if he keeps working hard. But, Bhuvaneshwar will vanish in 2 years, unless he learns to bowl well when there is no swing assistance.

Posted by Fijicricket on (November 25, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

@Albert_cambell..If Pakistan who were the worst team of CT in England , got thrashed by SA by unimaginable margins to a point where ICC is to review their test status, and havent won a thing in the past and even lost by massive margins in Zimbabwe is the best team in the subcontinent then my Bangladeshi is also as correct he feels his BD team is the best.! Congratulations to both of you. Who cares about ICC rankings! Both of you command huge respect from all cricket fans around the world with your judgements!

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (November 25, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

I wish the title could have given a bit of credit to WI. Well Done Sammy. You deserve it.

Posted by Iceman29 on (November 25, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

Rather than bashing Ind why dont you guys give credit WI team and especially Sammy for the brilliant effort...WI team are the best ambassadors of this game...

Posted by Fijicricket on (November 25, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

@Albert_cambell on (November 25, 2013, 7:09 GMT) Like you as a Pakistani feel that Pakistan is the best team in the sub-continent, I know a Bangladeshi who thinks Bangladesh is the best team in the sub-continent Everyone is entitled to their opinion! Please check official rankings.

Posted by Assasinator_007 on (November 25, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

@Adeel Rayhan

please explain what happen to so called best bowling attach in the CT2013 on fast and bouncy pitch...they were taken for ride by young Indian batsman.

If you say faulkner took apart Indian bowlers then the same logic applies to Aus bowlers as well doesnt it. India manage to chase 350+ runs twice, does that mean Aus bowlers were pathetic.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (November 25, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Some fans are furious about their teams lost in last T20 WC where they lost all super 8 matches 3-0 and CT13 where they able to won only 1 game (against a minnow team who lost all matches) out of 4 played. But they still believe they are top of everything and have own rankings!

Posted by Iceman29 on (November 25, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

@Harmony111: you just nailed it to the head bro...adding to your point no matter how good their bowlers be we always had and have batsmen who will thrash them whenever we meet...

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (November 25, 2013, 8:41 GMT)

@Albert_cambell. So, SA too do not have upper hand at home, then why you bash India? And your best subcontinent team lost to ZIM in an ODI and Test few months back. May be you are considering them as a credit!

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (November 25, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

Haters, are you blind? The ball was changed multiple times as we have never seen before. You haters, couldn't imagine how difficult it was for the fielders and bowlers and sad to see fellow Indians on their moral high-horses to lay into Dhoni, just because he spoke the ground realities about the outfield. Don't support the team blindly. At the same time don't be blind in your criticisms. Is that too much to ask?

Posted by Iceman29 on (November 25, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

@ Albert_cambell: Buddy we all know how your team batsmen are performing.....If India has average bowlers then Pak team's batsmen are even worse than that...before posting such comments think about your team's current crop of players..

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 25, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

@Albert_cambell..yes there is nothing special about Kohli who scores only at home just like Philander who takes wicket mostly in bowler friendly tracks of SA,is'nt it?there is also nothing special about Steyn who takes wickets only in bowling friendly wickets but struggles in subcontinent,am i right?for your information Kohli averages 50+ in Aus & SA,and also averages 40 in Eng in ODI's,i think thats more than enough

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 25, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

@Albert_cambell...>>>pakistan are the best team from the subcontinent. Because they dont play at home.>>>best team because they recently got thrashed by SA in UAE and also in SA?or they are the best because they played so well in the recently concluded Champions Trophy?...Not playing at home does not make a team better than others,add to that UAE has typical subcontinent condition,also AB DeVilliers clearly said that the condition in UAE is similar to Pakistan,and the most important thing in a cricket ground is the pitch condition which is prepared by PCB using the soils imported from pak,so thats home away from home for Pak...and despite our overhyped and poor bowlers we are winning,that's what matters the most

Posted by BounceTrack_BULLY on (November 25, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

West Indies Team showed what they are capable off. They batted sensibly and took the game away. Indian bowlers and fielders needs to improve, Bowling full toss is not acceptable even in our village team.

Posted by Harmony111 on (November 25, 2013, 8:08 GMT)


Oh please, no Ind fan has ever talked of Bhuvi or Shami as being anything great. Yes we all think they have a lot of potential but we all also know and keep saying that there is a long way to go.

Compare this to how many Pak fans hyped up Junaid Khan when he happened to take a few wickets in the ODI series against really tired Indian team. They called him among the bets bowlers in the world and a few even started calling him a GREAT bowler. It is another thing that the same Junaid Khan looked so ordinary in the CT13 facing a fresh Indian team.

Guys like Mohammad Sami (not Shami), Sohail Tanvir, Umar Gul, Wahab Riaz are the real over hyped ones. Pak fans talked soooo much about them when they first came in but these guys have either retired long back with poor unfulfilled records or are active but can't get in the team. Guys like Tanvir are in the team but struggling. Barring Gul, none of these ever rose to any great heights & even Gul is now out of team.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 8:03 GMT)

wi beat india with their a team

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (November 25, 2013, 7:39 GMT)

@bouncer - most of your concerns were answered by my fellow countrymen...just to add to -dew was a factor yes..but none of our fellow supporters are making it as an excuse...dropped catches and slow batting in middle over were equally responsible for our rare failure...which is as rare as a pak win these enjoy your little moment of success...while it lasts.

Posted by Kumaranuj on (November 25, 2013, 7:29 GMT)

@ siri12345. Completely agree with you. when Ind wins chasing in these conditions then many peoples( i.e. commentator ) says that opposition bowlers don't know how to bowl, but now same peoples want to take credit off from this struggling WI team, by saying that conditions are very tough for Indian bowlers. How stupid comments by them, & by MS post match press conference. Also I want to add that yesterday I say a poll during match on the channel regarding Gayle & Pollard, that WI going to miss them, but I think this struggling WI team looks more challenging without them, specially without Gayle, who seems uninterested to play international match & loves only to play in IPL and other league like that. Yesterday, since the start of the match its only Darren Sammy who looks like enough motivated to do something, and this deposed ODI captain done it with his cool head. He proves some point in this match.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (November 25, 2013, 7:24 GMT)

Indian fans should not sing song about their fast bowlers. We all know happened to their legendary fast bowlers Irfan pathan, Zaheer khan, Munaf patel ,praveen kumar, RP singh..etc. Bhuwaneswar kumar and Shami Ahmed are also overhyped bowlers like all the other indian bowlers.

Posted by Harmony111 on (November 25, 2013, 7:15 GMT)


A few things...

#1: India have a weak bowling attack, mostly spinners.

#2. Aus have a strong bowling attack, mostly fast bowlers.

#3: India chased 350, twice. Once in 44 overs.

#4: Aus barely managed to chase 304 & were 209/8 chasing 383. Maxwell, Faulkner, Watson all were mindlessly slogging. Kohli scored a 62 ball 100 with just 1 six.

#5: India lost defending 288 but WI won with 3 balls & 2 wickets left.

#6: This match saw EXCESS dew, not just some dew. Balls were changed 3 times I think. Quite unprecedented. Players wer seen scrapping mud from their soles as if they had been to some muddy jungle.

Lastly ....................

#7: Dhoni talked of dew even when India had won. Pls read the post match comments. He talked of flat tracks & fast outfields & even bowling machines.

Almost all Ind fans here are talking about Sammy's lovely knock too. A result has a few factors. Sammy's batting, dropped catches, dew are all factors, not excuses.

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 25, 2013, 7:10 GMT)

to all SL & Pak fans,your team at present is languishing at the no.6 and no.7 in ODI's,pak even lost to Zim recently and were hammered in UAE by SA when pak fans were boasting how much SA will struggle in unhelpful condition,whereas SL lost to NZ and failed to win the ODI series that too when NZ were missing all top players barring few and also lost an ODI at home to BD...Moral of the story-start fixing your team instead of going crazy on others

Posted by Albert_cambell on (November 25, 2013, 7:09 GMT)

pakistan are the best team from the subcontinent. Because they dont play at home. They mostly play in those rank turners of UAE. Even today too they defeated us in green wickets of SA. There is nothing special with Kohli scoring truck load of runs at his home grounds. Even Faulkner and Sammy looked like Viv Richard in indian wickets.

Posted by Iceman29 on (November 25, 2013, 7:04 GMT)

Ausie_the_Great: If we go by your logic then Aussies are in that minnows list....atleast you are accepting the truth...

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 25, 2013, 6:57 GMT)

@siri12345,its always advisable to do some research before posting comments,during Ind-Aus series the dew problem was minimal,even when india lost to aus while defending 303 nobody talked about dew,when Faulkner almost won the game for Aus while chasing 385 nobody blamed Dew,but in the 1st ODI against WI when india were chasing there were lots of talk about how WI bowlers struggling due to DEW,same story in 2nd game,anybody who saw the match can see how many times players were trying to take off the mud from their shoes and how much wet the towels were.You must be a blind hater to ignore such things...Lastly,please worry about your team which is winning nothing of sort,infact your team failed to win even a test series against NZ and recently failed to win the ODI series against them,lets not forget your team also struggled against BD in recent series.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 6:42 GMT)


I can talk on last Pakistan tour to India & on CT 2013 clash too. When your team couldn't score more than 170, our batsmen don't need to score 250-260. PAK won the series 2-1 but every match was close even though we had bad selections at that time. Same top class bowlers were hammered by IND at CT 2013 & it was unbearable for me to see your bowlers' drubbed faces at that time. Did you know how many times balls were changed yesterday? Being neighbour I always supporting PAK & follow their matches too. It was really disappointing for me to read your comments on Pak players in SA series. We fought till last over in heavy wet (dew) conditions & took 8 WI wickets. WI would have won in 35 overs if junaid, Irfan & Ajmal were there in Vizag as I had seen they were clobbered brutally by Proteas in UAE. Development of PAK is shrunk considerably & their future is really bleak which is why their fans like you were seen posting embarrassing here most of the time.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 6:42 GMT)

it wasn't easy win for west indies they lost 8 wickets despite of conditions favour of batting second and it could've been nine wickets or loss the match had india appealed for caught behind on 48th over on sammys dismissal

Posted by bouncer709 on (November 25, 2013, 6:37 GMT)

@Cricfan_99 : Well, it was not Pakistani bowling, the problem is with Pakistan batting, we accept it, and you should accept defeat too. When India chase 350, they you guys forget there was any dew, but when West Indies chase 288, Indian fans start crying it was the dew factor...

Posted by RajeshNaik on (November 25, 2013, 6:33 GMT)

It was nice to see Darren Sammy coming to the party. I am a big fan of his. I like these low profile players who miss the eyes of our great cricket writers. He looked like very determined to make a point. And he did make a point. he lead WI when no one was there to lead and when no one was ready to lead. He lead the team with a smile and kept performing. Indians probably expected him not to last long. But he played a very measured innings.

Posted by hotcric01 on (November 25, 2013, 6:26 GMT)

siri12345,Australia's main strength is their fast bowling.That is not affected much by dew or wetness.Dew mainly affects to spinners.India played brilliant cricket over the past few years,that is not necessarily compared with great Australian or West Indies sides.India has played their own style of cricket consistently well in different conditions In India,England ,west indies and Zimbabwe.Yesterday India were behind atleast 20-30 runs than par score because out of form middle order batsmen likes of Raina.Yuvi and Jadeja.That is a point India should concern.

Posted by Harmony111 on (November 25, 2013, 6:16 GMT)


---"Congrat WI for the comprehensive victory in unfavoured conditions."---

Comprehensive win? WI won by 2 wickets with 3 balls left.

Unfavoured conditions? Did you see the amount of dew on the ground? Even by the usual patterns, the dew in this match was phenomenal. Mud kept getting clung to the boots of the players.

Of course this does not mean WI did not play well. To chase a large score you got to play well. Sammy batted beautifully to guide the chase.

Talking about WI becoming unbeatable, you should know it well. After all, the whole world saw how WI made SL look like minnows (and they really are) in the WT20 final. Do you remember the most-foolish-shots-of-all times played by Angelo & Jayawardene in that match?

Posted by RajeshNaik on (November 25, 2013, 6:10 GMT)

I am not at all bothered about India's batting. Someone will always come to the occasion. It is the fast bowling department, which is going to cost India matches and plenty of matches in the future. Mohit is good but he will always be a one dimensional bowler for some time. Despite glowing words and positive reviews from all the sundry I am not at all a fan of Bhuvanehswar Kumar. If there is swing he is king, or else he is nothing. He is twice as ineffective in batting PP and death overs as he is effective in the bowling PP. India needs bowlers who can bowl at any stage, without any fear of giving away runs and always trying to get wickets (read Vinay Kumar). Moreover, Bhuvi lacks simple cricketing sense while fielding in the deep. Mark my words, Bhuvi will not be around in another 2 years. Shami has made a good start. Hope he keeps it up. He is not afraid of going for runs and keeps trying to get wickets. But if there is no swing again he too looks clueless sometimes.

Posted by RajeshNaik on (November 25, 2013, 5:59 GMT)

The number of comments are struggling to cross 200 here. During Australia India ODIs they were in excess of 500, sometimes crossing even 600. I guess, since Vinay Kumar is not playing, the comments are less!

Posted by siri12345 on (November 25, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

ind has won a no of matches in ind recently batting 2nd (the 2 games that immediately come to mind r r 350 chase ) and after the games pages were full with how great dhawan,kohli and rohit r .not a single mention of ball got wet due to dew and aus found it hard to bowl so conditions r unfair in those games but wen ind will bowl 2nd n cant defend scores it will be becoz ground was full with dew and ball was of stupidity to be honest.@gvrjrp-r u kidding or serious??r u sure winning 7 consecutive odi series is a world record??r u sure the great australian odi team has never won 7 consecutive odi series ever??or it might be a world record for ind only like it was a world record for bangladesh wen they made it to asia cup final for the first time last year?/

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (November 25, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

It was WI vs India and WI won it, right?. I am confuesed, because, BD and SL fans enjoying it more than WI They hope WI will win the series than the WI fans! Let them enjoy India defeat which is rare just like their team win!

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (November 25, 2013, 5:45 GMT)

@ Ausie_the_Great. Indian fans including me asked for it 10-15 years back!. We know how some teams hold the record for a long time with the help of fast pitches and win over minnow teams. Thats not fair. It was fair for you guys at that time!. Nice to see a Ausis fan asking for it at least when they lost rankings!. lol

Posted by Rajeshj on (November 25, 2013, 5:41 GMT)

Terrific innings from Sammy and he is very unlucky to be criticized every now and then.. He is miles ahead of Pollard in terms of temperament and value.. Looks like Dhawan is out of his purple patch.. He used to get at least 1 or 2 reprieves during his purple patch, but now the luck seems to have run out and so he gets out cheaply these days.. Rohit is also on the same track and could follow soon the same way.. Ideally I think Yuvraj and Raina have lost their credibility and its time to say bye to them.. Pujara is a must in the ODI team and should be brought back immediately.. the other slot can be decided between Rahane/Rayudu/DK.. In the bowling, Shami looks a bit suspicious on whether he can hold good for long time.. he should be persisted with, but at the same time create good backups..

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (November 25, 2013, 5:37 GMT)

@bouncer - ofcourse you'll talk about paks last tour of india...that was d only series u won in d last one year..just like afridi's one good innings -comes only once a year--lol...pls remind me what happened in d CT 2013 where ur WC bowling failed win a single match in helpful conditions..

Posted by sachinisawesome on (November 25, 2013, 5:30 GMT)

@ Ausie_the_Great Your team just got owned by NZ and drew a series. They rested their main players coz they were aware that they can thrash your team without them but here WI players are injured and they are in desperate situation. You questioning the ranking is very funny coz the whole world is aware that if there is one team which doesn't deserve to be on top of the ranking that is you team. India is the most consistent team in the world in all format and it cares about all formats as well. We don't cancel test matches to play a one day series. If I were you I would take care his own team who rarely gets paid. And when u say minnows well we have won most matches against SL.

Posted by bouncer709 on (November 25, 2013, 5:16 GMT)

@Sandip Manjrekar , SherjilIslam : well talk of the last Pakistan tour to India, your WC batsmen were not able to score 250-260 against Pak bowlng, and Pakistan won the series. and yesterday the way Sammy was trying to hit Indian bowlers, he knew they are school level...and look at WI batting, the weakest, but still they chased 288.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (November 25, 2013, 5:11 GMT)

Sammy did the job for WI. And Indian middle order especially Yuvraj and Raina are responsible for the 20-30 runs short in Indian innings. I think it is the time to look beyond Yuvraj as he is no way near to his form. Anyway Indian fought well till the last over, thats good. Good luck for the next game.

Posted by Hindh on (November 25, 2013, 5:06 GMT)

It was win the toss win the match for Windies as massive amounts of dew came down and ball was soaked in water so Indian spinners cud not even grip the ball let alone landing it on right lengths...So India shld just move on and win the next match as it is a day match and there will be no dew..

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

Yes yesterday Dhoni failed to hear a nick. Moreover Yuvaraj does not deserve a place in the 11. He is used only as a batsman & his batting was the slowest of this Era. Dropped catch of Simmons. pl. drop him for the next 1 day & DO NOT PiCK HIM FOR SA.

Posted by Tendoschate on (November 25, 2013, 4:58 GMT)

Instead of Yuvraj and Raina they should give chance to Dinesh Karthik and Rayudu to stablize the middle order.

Posted by asthomas911 on (November 25, 2013, 4:51 GMT)

I would support Sachin's suggestion of a 25:25/25:25 where like test match where both the teams get to bat twice with the wickets they have left during the first innings which would make the conditions for both the teams better balanced and toss will not become that crucial like what happened yesterday. It would probably fill the seats too and perhaps could make it even more entertaining.

ICC needs to get the logic right.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

I dont understand why WI dont include Dwayne Smith in their batting line up,, He is useful bowler also and very good fielder,,,

WI did really well and I guess after long time it looked good interesting game,,, they deserved to win

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 4:46 GMT)

batting was yeatarday at the end along with ashwin gets a competetive total.but the bowling has letus down again. the inexperience in the bowling department needed to be sorted out. bring back zaheer khan and harbhajan singh.

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 25, 2013, 4:38 GMT)

@ Dennis Krishan, Do you kinow that India has done really well. They are on the brink of 7 th consequtive ODI series win, which will be a world record.

Posted by A_A_Mamun on (November 25, 2013, 4:38 GMT)

Congrates West Indies... Keep it up.

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 25, 2013, 4:36 GMT)

Yesterday our Indian boys couldn't hear a nick. What's going on champs??

Posted by Rajesh_India_1980 on (November 25, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

Congrat Windies! The fallacy of ODI ranking was unvieled one more time. This demands a proper statistical ranking method that the results are weighted by the team strenghts and pitch conditions. Current ranking system won't do any good as it favours the teams mostly winning against minnows and in home conditions.

Posted by RamhanceRampersaud on (November 25, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

Ian Bishop should be the General manager of WI. Bright chap. He understands the thinking aspect of the game and has the ability to manage the players. Bish, I think the WI board is missing a trick by not engaging you as the GM.

Posted by Iceman29 on (November 25, 2013, 4:29 GMT)

Congrats to WI team...Sammy played his heart out...I hope from here on he respects his wicket and doesn't throw it away...Having said that the main culprits are Yuvi and Raina, these two are just passengers in this team...Yuvi is just a shadow of his past, he must retire now and provide opportunities for others....if Raina cant bat in Ind conditions he will not last more than two or three balls in SA, ENG and AUS for sure...he is in the team only because of Dhoni...when is Dhoni going to realise he is burden to team??...DK and Manoj Tiwary will be best suited in the middle orders especially in overseas....

Posted by Yuosufahmed on (November 25, 2013, 4:26 GMT)

Congrat WI for the comprehensive victory in unfavoured conditions. Adding the missing ODI kings like Gayle, Pollard, Roach will make WI a undefeatable team. Good luck for the third ODI. From a SL fan.

Posted by prazad on (November 25, 2013, 4:25 GMT)

Comments on Indian cricket, it seems, has less to do with Indian cricket and more to do with the politics of the commenter. As assassinator says, an Indian win is because of pitch, gamesmanship and BCCI's money; an Indian loss is because the better team won that day :-s It was a chancy win for Windies but the score also shows the hugely talented bunch they are ! Lets hope this is a preview of good times coming back to the caribbean ! The game is lesser without their style !!

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 4:21 GMT)

just a bad day boys. its good the last match will be the final and we will inshallah win it.

Posted by MichaelBurton on (November 25, 2013, 4:18 GMT)

Congrat WI for beating World No.1. It seems we are still susceptible even we clearly dominate at the top in ODIs. We are most susceptible to Aus, Eng, SL, SA and Pak who are ahead WI in the rankings.Also we cannot deny the possibility of loosing to NZ and Ban on any day.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 4:14 GMT)

West Indies did well but i think India had the opportunity to close out the game...Yuvraj got into the team cos of his past deeds...dont get me wrong this guy has given indian fans some memorable innings and it will forever be cherished. BUT he looks way out of form and looks like a walking wicket his at the crease...he even dropped a sitter which could have turned the...Bar MSD indian middle order i.e Yuvi, Raina and Jadega look ver vulnerable...atleast Jadega gets wickets...its about time others get a chance to showcase their talents...Give Raina and Yuivi a break...and please its not that India is not doing well, they are the top ranked team but to stay there they have to make sure that they have inform players in the team.

Posted by Hindh on (November 25, 2013, 3:53 GMT)

The funny thing is more than the Windies fans PAk and SL fans are more happy for a windies win..........LOL Well played Windies... Dew did India in this time , But next match is a day match must see how far windies have come in that match..

Posted by ReverseSweepIndia on (November 25, 2013, 3:41 GMT)

This WI team is immensely talented provided they have enough belief in them. Congratulations. Stop throwing away wickets, that is what you do most of time and if not for cool head of Sammy, you had conspired even to lose this one where dew favored you so much (no, dew is not an excuse, it has helped us, India, many times too, but you need to lap advantages strongly). WI won despite wicket being a huge turner is good thing for them. Coming to our own team, its good that we lost, we get to know our weaknesses. No. #4 & #5 are both in pretty poor form. I think, as next WC is in Aus, only one of Yuvi or Raina can play. Pujara should come in picture, because grounds in Australia will not allow 350s. But our bowling now, slightly better, but still worse than other teams, we always need to score more than par score for others. And Pujara can provide that stable hand to achieve that. He is not 80 bowls 100 player but still 120 bowls 100 should be good enough in those conditions.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 3:26 GMT)

It looks nice to see WI topple India and made this series more exciting. Still i believe they will lack in the final game which is day game. They need to have batting order like Powell, Charles, Dwayne bravo(good hitter and single taker) , darren bravo, samuel,simmons, sammy, permaul, rampaul, narine and holder. In bowling they should use samuels, permaul spin between 20 to 40. so that narine will be dangerous during slog overs. He is world class..

Indian team is doing well with top performance from all top three and dhoni. If they lose rohit, virat then others will come under pressure. looking forward to an exciting finish...

Posted by rayinto on (November 25, 2013, 3:14 GMT)

Bravo Sammy! Finally you catch some form. We'll played. We'll done West Indies. Now keep it up!

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

Time to say good bye to Yiuvraj Singh....

Posted by WindiesFan on (November 25, 2013, 3:09 GMT)

Did I get it wrong or did the West Indies win this match? The article's headline and general bent seems entirely denigrating to me. Lest it be forgotten, this is the 4th highest winning ODI run chase for the windies. It is also only the 2nd time we have had 4 50+ plus scores in an ODI. Come on writer, show some respect. Beating India in a ODI in India is no small feat these days, especially with so many of their stars in superb nick (Dhoni, Kohli, Jadega, Sharma etc.). Respect Due!!

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 3:01 GMT)

No doubt India is very good side and they had a bad day today which any team in the world can encounter. One thing i do't like about MSD is that "at post match presentation he did't say one time that WI played good cricket than us today, i was dying to listen from MDS that WI's batted well today, Sammy was good but he only kept praising his own team saying that dew played role in our lost"

Posted by siri12345 on (November 25, 2013, 2:55 GMT)

lolzzz i can remember some 10 days ago when we lost to kiwis in a rain truncated short match we were made fun of by indian fans.there also the ball was more wet than vizag(though its not a excuse to loose).but wen the same things happen to indian team ,its okk we lost coz the ball was wet and ground was full of wat should i call this westindies team who were without-christopher henry gayle,dwayne smith (the best batsman of west indies by a long margin),kieron pollard,kemar roach and shillingford???????a b or a c side ???cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:40 GMT)

Credit to WI. They outplayed India. and there is so much hate out there. Chill out ppl. Just enjoy good game of Cricket. I follow all the games. and the over al,l winner is us, the audiences. It is just a game. Peace Out. OM!!!

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:37 GMT)

I was laughing aloud at the suggestions last day by our esteemed Ravi Shastri and gavaskar saying Dwayne bravo should come ahead of Simmons..what they had forgotten is that Simmons got out to a wrong call by umpire kulkarni in 1st odi and D bravo is yet to prove in the series..simmons was looking good till see what happened this time...D bravo almost threw it away while simmons proved worthwhile though he too got affected by pressure created by cheap dismissals.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:36 GMT)

Have made the point previously and still think its extremely relevant. Why is dew treated any different to other circumstances leading to suspension of play - like when rain impacts the quality of the outfield? My point is this - every stadium must track the dew impact over the year and allocation of games must be basis the recordings of dew levels through historic and current levels. A dew factor index must be put in place and in case of the dew levels during the game crossing acceptable levels - the game must be stopped and, if the conditions do not improve, lead to suspension of the same.

This will lead to more grounds opting for Day games if needed and only grounds which can offer conditions which offer a fair opportunity to both teams in day nighters, will be allowed to host them.

Seeing too many games ending up as a lottery of the toss due to the dew factor and thats just not good for cricket.

Posted by lala88 on (November 25, 2013, 2:33 GMT)

India would have been socre 325+ if Kohli played his normal game during batting power play. India scored only 13 runs in the batting power play. Kohli's only focus was getting a hundred than put good score for India. He became selfish & paid accordingly by dismissing 1t 99 runs.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:33 GMT)

lots of SL and PAK fans thinks that it was flat wicket but the truth is the pitch was difficult to bat on and if there was no dew then WI would have found it difficult to chase that score as we saw from the match when the ball got changed in middle overs both ashwin and jadeja were getting sharp turn and they got wickets of bravo and powell immediately....IND have such a strong batting order that anything less than 300 is unacceptable and they could have got 300 if yuvraj hadn't played a very slow innings...narine was all over him and he was struggling to put the bat on ball..he should be dropped from the IND team....

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:29 GMT)

i think india will always leak runs in odi, depends weather their batters perform. teams with good spinners have a better chance against them. tht was the difference between the austral8a series.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

Its crazy how biased this article is, just by looking at the title its obvious! West Indies played well and they deserve credit! This article only talks about how the Indians suffered, but WI batsmen were uncomfortable too for example when Simmons took off his shirt because it was so wet and damp! Articles should never be this biased on a site like cricinfo! Absolute rubbish

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:49 GMT)

Mr. Damith....One victory or loss make any team great or disaster...but India is consistantly performing far better than any other team...look at the series results rather than one of such games where bowlers can't grip. I wonder why WI lost 8 wickets on the ground. That too to the worst bowling attack. With the worst bowling attack in the world, if we are winning the matches, you people should salute Dhoni and Team India...If you can't, I pity you...

Posted by Lodhisingh on (November 25, 2013, 1:49 GMT)

@Damith Wijesinghe. r u talking about tests or odis? becos nobody said india is the number one in tests. in odis, they are the best by a margin. doesnt matter they lose or 2 odis.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:47 GMT)

well done WI I don't understand why the WI always criticises Sammy. WI supporters have no memory. The presence of Sammy in the team have help the WI to rise in the ICC standing.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:45 GMT)

Damith Wijesinghe youlad-is making people laugh.You called WI a school team despite them being T20 world champions and one of the top 8 teams in the world.I don't even feel a bit ashamed for losing against them.And yes-We are still World champions,No.1 ODI team,No.2 Test team and no.2 T20 team so still the best in the world,got it?

Posted by Engee on (November 25, 2013, 1:31 GMT)

If India escapes a 2-0 drubbing at the hands of SA in the test series - test being the ultimate barometer - they would have done really well!

Posted by Engee on (November 25, 2013, 1:25 GMT)

Glad WI winning something finally..otherwise meaningless series that doesn't prepare Indian batsmen for the SA series where their frailties to pace and bounce would be exposed like the moon on a clear night!

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:24 GMT)

congrats to west indies sure they win series 2_1

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:23 GMT)

As a west indian, it's interesting reading the comments. Most of the comments are word arguments between IND, PAK and SL fans, whereas the WI fans are just happy for the victory and congratulating Sammy.

While I'm happy that four of our batsmen got starts and converted them into half-centuries, three of those (DM Bravo, Powell and Simonds) seemed like they forgot how to bat after they passed 50. It is the ability to convert these 50's into 100's that makes someone a match winner.

Hoping for another nail-bitter for the final ODI.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:20 GMT)

The title should read, West Indies almost throws it away, but they were in control for most of this game and all of the pundits know this,

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:17 GMT)

Turning point happened very early in the 1st innings. Much lauded Yuvi wasted more than 8 overs (49 balls) to score 28. (@2.85 per over).

Contrast that with the much maligned Sammy. He scored 63 runs @8.4 runs per over

The two young boys (the 3rd wicket partnership for WI) resisted Indian attack for 100 ball and produced 100 runs.

Lessons: West Indies should encourage more youngsters; instead of just hanging on to the old-timers, based on their past.

And, India should take another look at guys like Yuvi. His batting has dipped. He is no Sachin in terms of the hard yards required to come back strongly. His approach is closer to another great from the past -- Sehwag. Yuvi doesn't bowl any more (Raina does; hence I don't argue for his exit.). Yuvi is no more agile. India showed enough gratitude & compassion for Yuvi's comeback.

At least against not so strong teams, we should start trying out youngsters like Baba Aparajit, Sanju Samson and many of their age-group & capabilities.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:10 GMT)

I think BCCI and PCB should signed an agreement of atleast 2 years training program in which a pool of young pakistani batsmen played in india and get trained and guided by indian batting coaches to improve their technique..while a pool of young indian bowlers played in pakistani domestic and get trained by pakistani coaches..these will surely help both is rare to find good bowlers becoz bowleing is all about physical fitness and strength..while batting is an art, a combination of partical techniques to stroke, defend and running between wickets...i am always astonished to see that among top 8 teams..the 7 teams are always praising and "WORSHIPPING" good bowlers rather than batsmen, the only and lonely team is pakistan, its a bowlers factory who produces top quality bowlers..not in generations, but in couple of years...even pakistani average bowlers like wahab riaz, sohail tanvir, junaid khan, rahat ali are much better than other fast bowlers in different teams..

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 1:07 GMT)

Nothing said from the author about the umpires just handing India a nice dry ball when West Indies had the momentum. However, its very clear we have not played India in the last two years with the best possible team, they have been that fortunate. the problem in the West Indies is not talent, its politics, we will get that sorted out at some point, then the real team will show up.. Seems like Shami and Raina are exposed once again, they are not in Ashwin's league. They seem to need perfect conditions to perform well. Those three wickets that Raina took in the fists ODI were clearly a fluke. Good win for the West Indies, we will take them any way we can.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 0:56 GMT)

India's middle order is not playing well. If you see Suresh Raina's last 10 innings, he didn't contributed much with bat. Yuvraj is a good player, he only said that best 11 should be in the team. He has to be consistent. One important thing is that World cup is close. India is playing on flat pitches. It wont help when India visit Australia and New Zealand. Looks like we don't have plan for World cup. Indian players struggle against short balls in India. Don't know how Indian batsmen deal the pace bowling in Australia. India clearly needs good fast bowlers.

Posted by Fijicricket on (November 25, 2013, 0:55 GMT)

Great to see all non Indian fans coming out of their holes when Team India loses! Clearly they have very high expectations that this team should NOT lose and their following of India's fortunes makes India on top as far as publicity/following.! Thank you all for coming- great reading! and keep it coming!

Posted by Dragonboyz on (November 25, 2013, 0:34 GMT)

Dhoni should go with the same bowling attack for next game also. They are very young and will learn and better than Ishant and Vinay Kumar.Please bring Rayudu or Rahane atleast for 1 match in place of Yuvi or Raina.They are not playing well for long time.

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 25, 2013, 0:33 GMT)

India is good team in india with dhoni as captain. India losing games because indian fast bowlers are not good in ODI. kumar and sami good for TEST matches. They really not good with white ball. Also pitches are flat. This is not good for fast bowlers. Sammy playing as batsman good for ODI , T20 . Great.

Posted by   on (November 25, 2013, 0:20 GMT)

India fielding has deteriorated ever since days of Greg Chappel. We were seeing how the players were diving to stop the balls. May the new coach has no faith in this. Duncan Fletcher must have different ideas or the ground may not be so good for diving and stopping balls. The players are use their legs to stop balls in the new coach tenure. Another noticeable departure is that Duncan Fletcher's attitude in selection of team and seems to have no say in this. Everything is decided by Dhoni alone after final selection is made by selectors. It appears even selectors have no role once final fifteen are selected. This leaves no room except for Dhoni for making it to final Eleven for selecting final 11. That is why I see Suresh Raina and Yuvraj Singh are seen in all matches. There needs to be re-look at spots Sureah Raina, Ravinder Jadeja, MM Singh/Udakant, . It appears these spots needs are vulnerable and they needs persons of right attitudes to fill up these spots

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 21:57 GMT)

@Assasinator_007: I agree that we dnt have much in batting, but we have the best bowling attack in the world, from last two decades, that can defend small totals, like 200-220, on any surface, whether it's bowling pitch or batting, can you do this from current Indian bowling lineup, i think never, the Indians knows only thing, batting batting and batting, do you forget what faulkner has done with this indian bowling in the third ODI, and the same Aussie team in the last T20 world cup, where an indian commentator himself said that "This is Death of India's Death Bowling". you cant defend 290-300, and we defend 200-230 easily. Batting is your plus point, because, batting doesn't needs that much hard work than bowling, just stand there smack the ball on batting paradises (like what india doing recently), bowling is our plus point, it takes your heart out, under so much pressure, you have to contain you have to create difficulties for batsman, and last but not least got them out.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (November 24, 2013, 21:56 GMT)

Ha ! It seems the India bashers are out in full force today. These people usually HIDE when India chains victories in a row. As an Indian fan, I DON'T care. India wins 99% of the time, this loss is a one off and fair play to the Windies, they chased this score well thanks to Sammy and co. People who say India are 'poor' need to simply use their God given brains and look back at the tremendous record since Janurary 2013 beginning with the Australia test series. India have won every game in every format with relative ease. This also includes the stunning Champions Trophy and the Caribbean tri series wins. All these wins came away from home in relatively tough conditions. The sheer consistency of the Indian team is mind boggling. How many other teams can lay claim to that ? NONE. It's equally funny to see Pakistani and SL fans here whose teams are not even half as good as this Indian team. Not to worry, India will win the final game and you guys will be back to your hiding spots.

Posted by Gevelsis on (November 24, 2013, 21:50 GMT)

Nah Sammy's no good, can't bat, can't bowl, don't know how he keeps his place, completely useless ........ that's called Sarcasm. The fact that after so many posters have recently been telling us how pitiful Sammy is, he goes out and wins a match for WI with a great innings ....... that's called Irony. Just to make the difference clear. :)

Posted by subhaas on (November 24, 2013, 21:16 GMT)

@ great work kuldeep now you know sri lankan ,pakistani and others who is the king Below are the W/L ratios for top 6 teams in ODI since World Cup 2011. W/L Ratios Away/Neutral Venue (since World Cup 2011): India - 1.92, South Africa - 1.33, Pakistan - 1.30, Australia - 1.12, England - 1.11 and Sri Lanka - 0.68;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;orderby= win_loss_ratio;spanmin1=03+Apr+2011;spanval1=span;team=1;team= 2;team=3;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team W/L Ratios at Home (since World Cup 2011): India - 2.12, England - 1.90, Australia - 1.85, Sri Lanka - 1.36 and South Africa - 0.88;home_or_away=1;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmin1 =03+Apr+2011;spanval1=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=6; team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team its better to say your team win world cup ,champions trophy,tri series,bilateral series lhave win ratio 2.12 like then talk

Posted by silentstand on (November 24, 2013, 20:57 GMT)

This headline is extremely biased if you ask me

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 20:45 GMT)

this victory still don't change my mind...selectors must go with Sammy ..

Posted by Assasinator_007 on (November 24, 2013, 20:04 GMT)

...THEY go hiding when India wins, THEY criticise outstanding indian players because they know deep inside that they are good. If India wins then it's meaningless win and if they loose then the bashers comes out in force who once in blue moon gets this opportunity to bash BLUE FORCE. They enjoy this more then their country's win.

BTW well played West Indies. You showed our neighbours how to bat full 50 overs and win matches with young team not relying on their seniors.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 19:57 GMT)

Ohh poor India the world number one team lost to a school team.I can remember someone mentioned here India trashed minnows like SL. I am a Sri Lankan And I am so happy atleast some of the big headed Indian fans will keep quiey now and understand the truth as India is not the best in the world.Prove it in South Africa.My rating will be Tset series 2-0 Win to SA

Posted by Harmony111 on (November 24, 2013, 19:57 GMT)

Sammy played an excellent knock today. I have admired him for a long time now and was actually supporting him, even at the cost of wishing a loss for my team. A loss once in a while will keep our players grounded & motivated. Moreover, India did very well overall and it was not as if WI won the match while in the 5th gear. The amount of dew today on ground was staggering, the grass-soil was getting stuck to the spikes of the players as one saw it on TV. Bhuvi could have bowled better in that last over & Shami too could have been better but these two are young ones. WI should feel good cos they won in the absence of Gayle & Pollard. WI are like Pak in many ways, so much talent but poor results, so much politics & so many captains + ex-captains.

So sad to see Kohli miss on 2 100s in 2 matches, he will soon become the leading active 100 maker in the world, just imagine !!! This is Sachin 2.0

Dhoni again showed his talent, what a player.

SL fans, you guys will never learn, right? YAWN.

Posted by Rising_Edge1234 on (November 24, 2013, 19:37 GMT)

This(ODI) and the T20 format are where Sammy should be captain. He should be dropped from the Test format. The inept WICB has everything backwards. Congrats to Sammy for his level-headed approach today and for taking us home.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (November 24, 2013, 19:34 GMT)

@bouncer709 on (November 24, 2013, 17:09 GMT): You sound like a Pakistani..well it's OK that your team has won today so you have all the rights to celebrate, but it's totally unwarranted to bash those teams which has nothing to do with yours. Just to remind you, the last time you were chasing around 160 against these same pathetic bowlers, your team couldn't even manage to tie that match. Should i even need to say about your batting...SCHOOL LEVEL seems the apt word for that.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 19:23 GMT)

WI slip and tumble but regain, India tumbles, crumbles and wakes up losing. Not a nice headline dude! You should do better.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 19:13 GMT)

eventually u will have to agree that yuvraj and raina ultimately made the difference albeit in a different way! it is no secret that the whole middle order now hinges upon dhoni and he s bound to have a few failures at some point... in that case we would practically be into the tail! jadeja s primarily a spinner but he needs to put a price on his wicket for he can really make a huge difference at no.7 ...can't blame ashwin much because he is making at least his bowling count... after the top 3 we need pujara at no.4 and rahane at no.5 who are both good players of both spin and seam....if rains and yuvraj are failing in the subcontinent then it won't take a genius to say that they will be torn apart by guys like Johnson in aus

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 19:09 GMT)

Great TEAM effort by the Windies in the run chase. FOUR half-centuries and a good job from Sammy and Simmons to close the match. Relax Sammy fanatics, no one questions his ability in limited overs format. Nice win Windies.

Posted by kuldeep1109 on (November 24, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

If we go back to 01 Jan 2008, just around the time Dhoni captained his first ODI series, India are still right up there.

W/L Ratios Away or Neutral Venue (01 Jan 2008):

India -1.65, Australia - 1.65, South Africa - 1.65, Pakistan - 1.11, Sri Lanka - 1.00, England - 0.87

Also, India have maintained a W/L ratio of 1.65 over 109 ODIs v/s 92 for Australia and just 56 for South Africa.;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;orderby=win_loss_ratio; spanmin2=01+Jan+2008;spanval2=span;team=1;team= 2;team=3;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

W/L Ratios at Home (since 01 Jan 2008):;home_or_away=1;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmin2=01+Jan+2008; spanval2=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results; type=team

Pakistan - 3.50, India - 2.73, Australia - 2.00, South Africa - 1.76, Sri Lanka - 1.50, England - 1.45

The stats talk for themselves. Amen

Posted by Bang_La on (November 24, 2013, 19:03 GMT)

Captain, long advertised, Cool clearly did not look cool at the end overs his bowlers bowled. Congratulations, West Indies. One more to go!!

Posted by kuldeep1109 on (November 24, 2013, 19:00 GMT)

For all those alleging that India is only good at home and are not true World Champions, here are some stats that should silence all of you once and for all.

Below are the W/L ratios for top 6 teams in ODI since World Cup 2011.

W/L Ratios Away/Neutral Venue (since World Cup 2011):

India - 1.92, South Africa - 1.33, Pakistan - 1.30, Australia - 1.12, England - 1.11 and Sri Lanka - 0.68;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;orderby=win_loss_ratio; spanmin1=03+Apr+2011;spanval1=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=6; team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

W/L Ratios at Home (since World Cup 2011):

India - 2.12, England - 1.90, Australia - 1.85, Sri Lanka - 1.36 and South Africa - 0.88;home_or_away=1;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmin1= 03+Apr+2011;spanval1=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=6; team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

Posted by lionslanka on (November 24, 2013, 18:59 GMT)

@Shujaat Afzal & @my_fellow countrymen

We should look at our perspective than others. Our team becomes funny thing that keeps in daily headlines. We can't bat, we can't bowl & we are worst in fielding. We won today but more due to SA mercy. We should take care about our team than Indians & I have no shame to say that they are the best team in the world in any format right now & we are at bottom. WI won purely due to heavy dew & wet balls. The umpires changed balls no. of times in WI inning. We were busy in watching our game & probably you didn't have any idea about this.

Posted by MuidRaza on (November 24, 2013, 18:48 GMT)

I don't know why, but reading the articles makes me feel that WI has made a mistake winning this game.. both teams fumble but the brave takes the game... well played WI after a long time..

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

Look at the headlines of this article it's funny must be a Indian writer. Who is upset.

Posted by NAYANADINI on (November 24, 2013, 18:29 GMT)

I request all my fellow srilankan fans to stop bashing our neighbours. The sentiments of their nation need not be insulted by us in response to bashings of few mischievous fans. Lets put an end to this mutual bashings. Let us all give constructive criticisms.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 18:20 GMT)

Bad luck Team India , but it's ok next game Indians will make sure wicket is more flatter so than can easily. Lol

Posted by rayinto on (November 24, 2013, 18:17 GMT)

Bravo Sammy! Great innings. You deserve to be the 1 day captain. This is your kind of game.well done West Indies - now keep it up,

Posted by sonu77 on (November 24, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

West Indies Development squad XI beat world no.1 (according to Indian Cricket Council rankings) ODI team at their home soil. Great Great Great stuff !!

Posted by rogist on (November 24, 2013, 18:11 GMT)

so where is all the sammy haters ull dont have anything to say now u ppl from the the big island have to thank him bc if it was not for sammy wi cricket would b down the drian long time go an sammy show this big islands how to play cricket

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 24, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

is'nt its funny that when india lose a game there are so many critics from across the border,some are saying india as ghar ka sher but forgot that just recently india won their last two ODI tournaments away from subcontinent(Champions Trophy & tri-series in WI) whereas their own team was blanked 0-3 in SA recently and lost 1-4 & 0-2 in ODI and T20 in UAE two weeks back.Some are boasting of the fact that india cant defend anything below 350 whereas Pak can even defend 211 but forget that despite our weak attack we have done very well in recent times compared to pak..what's more some are calling this WI a s 'A' side,lol its not india's fault that they lost their key players

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 18:04 GMT)

@mzm149 @bouncer709

Worst batting makes opinions of people like you the best bowling attack of opponent. This is exactly happening with your mediocre team. Even your best bowling attack was consistently hammered by out of form proteas in your own den,i.e., UAE. Don't need to say what were happened to your best bowling attack at Vizag in heavy dew in stead of IND attack. Bad fielding cost us match but that doesn't mean to start comparing IND with your team.

AND 286...out of reach of Misbah & company limited.

Posted by Llik2 on (November 24, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

West indies lost a odi series against bangladesh after winning t20 world cup with best players in they beat is bd weak anymore?

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (November 24, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

Another puny ground!!! Even Ashwin could clear ropes with 70 m six. If this trend continues, Ind batsmen may end up miraculously getting caught inside the boundary when they tour other countries. No probs with Dhoni, he can clear any ground but someone like Raina is always a suspect. Even Rohit hit some puny sixes. I hope he doesn't get it into his head that he can do it anywhere.

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (November 24, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

SL fans ... don't worry..atleast we're not going to lose a series at home like ur team lost to NZ's C team.. and BD's B that was embarrassing dont u think?

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

well done SAMMY, keep it up. when calypso beats-it never fails

Posted by Mr.Blacksmith on (November 24, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

on a day when pakistan defended their smart total of 218 against a super batting line up SA, how can a team not defend the target of 288? just imagine how desoeuvre bowling attack is this. pathetic.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

Dont underestimate the power of a common batsman.Sammy shines.Shami fades.India needs some soulsearching with regard to its bowling combinations.A quality left arm seamer would do the balancing act to the fast bowling department which somehow appears to lack penetration.Similarly a good leggie is another need of the hour.Plugging of loopholes before the African tour is a must and the remaining matches of this series provide a good opportunity to tinker with team composition.

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (November 24, 2013, 17:46 GMT)

Happy for WI. They needed this and it sets up the series nicely. Indian catching was a mixed bag.. needs to improve. What is ailing Yuvi? Dodgy batting and no bowling? Raina needs to show some returns for his Grade A contract.

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 24, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

@bouncer709, You worry about your team which is ranked number 7. The most hillarious team in the world who keep claiming about the talent they have but keep loosing matches at the rates of knots.

Posted by CrickFreak2012 on (November 24, 2013, 17:36 GMT)

@BRUTALANALYST, I fully agree with you !! And I am Indian. Sammy played a crucial knock and he deserves more.

Posted by Cric_fan1000 on (November 24, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

Yuvi was clearly struggling and lacking confidence. Was the reason why india lost todays match.

Posted by sameer_warun on (November 24, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

No Gayle , No Smith , No Pollad , No Roach , No Rusalle , No Badree , No Edwad , How WI A team Won against IND Supper team ?????? Is this the start of down fall of IND dream team ???

Posted by Blade-Runner on (November 24, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

Congratz Windies !!! You guys did so well even after losing your key players due to injuries. Its more of WI A team that excelled in India today. A few batsmen got out playing some rash shots. Otherwise they could have won the game in about 45 overs. Anyway this is a wake up call for some fanatics who believe that their team is I hope Windies will win the 3rd game to grab the series. G'luck !!!!!!

Posted by S.Seshachalam on (November 24, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

High time to drop both Raina and Yuvraj. Let Uthappa and Manoj Tiwari get a chance. Jadeja should drop down the batting order after Ashwin. We also need to have a good strike pace bowler who does not leak runs.

Posted by mzm149 on (November 24, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

This is why good bowling attack is needed. It can defend 211 in front of best batting attack on their home whereas bad bowling can fail to defend 289 at home.

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 24, 2013, 17:14 GMT)

Well played west indies and well fought India. That dew was too heavy!

Posted by sameer_warun on (November 24, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

See no team better than any team , on they're day any team can win & cricket is a funny & lucky game , even Bangladesh can beat IND on any day ( ZIM came near ) , that's how game goes ! NO Kings ! No best ! in cricket !

Posted by bouncer709 on (November 24, 2013, 17:09 GMT)

@gsing: where are you...Indian bowling it pathetic, they can not defend anything below 350. Good Job WI. Beat the so called World Champions (Ghar k shair) in their home.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (November 24, 2013, 17:09 GMT)

Dew and poor catching did India in. Anyways congratulations WI, nothing should be taken away from them and they deserve the accolades for their determination to win the match. Love to see the similar sort of effort coming from them in future too. Good luck India & WI for next game.

Posted by ThilankaK on (November 24, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

LOL ! IND national team ( they said batting nation ) beaten by WI A team ( without main bowler Roch , Smith , Pollad , world's best batsman Gayle , Rusall , Fidel Edwards & Samuel Badree ) It say no one better than any one , cricket is a funny game & If IND climb to hill after that definitely go through the hell ( IND going through a purple patch like SL after 96 World cup win ) see just now SA beaten by PAK A team ! No kings in cricket !

Posted by SherjilIslam on (November 24, 2013, 17:04 GMT)

Posted by sonu77 on (November 24, 2013, 16:24 GMT): India are the real no. 1 in the world. Wait for a couple of month and you will see them beating SA and NZ on their own turf.

Posted by rydwan78 on (November 24, 2013, 16:59 GMT)

"West Indies slip and stumble, but draw level" Come on this may well be true but Sammy batted his heart out and saw his team home on 60 odd not out. If this was an Indian his name would be in title like " Superb Sammy sees India home " The man deserves his name in the headline here, you can tell an Indian wrote this headline, lets leave biasses at home and give credit where it's due please . . . (collected)

BD for WI

Posted by akpy on (November 24, 2013, 16:55 GMT)

Thank god virat got out for 99 as people would have said he scored 100 in a losing cause, as it was a sin!!!

Posted by yorkslanka on (November 24, 2013, 16:55 GMT)

absolutely agree with brutal analyst, its a bit of a back hander that headline...give credit where its due..

Posted by chechong0114 on (November 24, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

I have to agree with BRITALANALYSY on this one. The heading for this story was atrotious regardless of the mistakes that India made in the field the West Indies team stuck it out and won the game anyway so the heading should say something like " GUTSY WEST INDIES EVEN SERIES" that would be an appropriate heading.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

To restrict power house India batsman today was a well thought out plan. Gr8 application first on the bowling not exceeding 300 runs and Sammy for his patience restrain maiden over entering the crease. props to you! your inning gave us the victory. Very good win WI! this win is a morale boost here on out, because India gonna come back stronger next game. Pride of WI Cricket

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 24, 2013, 16:50 GMT)

I don't understand how Yuvraj Singh keeps his place in this India side Robin Uthappa who was domestic top scorer deserves a another shot ahead of him or if they want to add another new youngster Samson or likes of Pujara also deserve to play instead of him, he had that 1 t20 hit v Aus and everyone thought he was back but he's not and India should move on.

Posted by bandyopadhyay_rupam on (November 24, 2013, 16:45 GMT)

India is surely in lack of a proper slog bowler ... sami and bhubnews both are young and good .. but they should practice more and more in net for good-length and yorker rather than giving full-toss ! I think they should take advice from Wasim Akram (The best option ever) if they really opt to groom them self for Aus-Nz pitch for upcoming worldcup !

Posted by Cricketfan11111 on (November 24, 2013, 16:39 GMT)

Thrilling match. Ideal pitch for odi. Something in it for every one. Good contest between bat and ball for most part of the match. In the end Sammy and dew made it easier for WI. Good victory. Windies' first victory of the tour. Well done.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:38 GMT)

It's about time they bring someone in for yuvraj singh 7 matches are not enough for the selectors to notice that his highest score has been 28. he has been disappointing on the feild as well dropping catches and letting the ball through. he is leaking runs. It's about time they bring pujara in he has only played two matches. he had a bit of bad luck that he couldnt convert those into big scores. he just scored a century indies at a decent strike. The selectors really need to look into this. I am nit being harsh on yuvraj because we lost the match. he got away in the last one because we won that one with ease.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

Time has come for selectors to rethink about Raina and Jadeja..Raina has not got substantial innings since his 80 odd not out against England last year while Jadeja is far inconsistent when it comes to batting..he must be considered as bowler hence forth..he plays a maiden over which ultimately made the difference to the result of the match..Well done West Indies..they could be more consisitent if they include players like Dwayne Smith,Samuel Badree and Ramnarseh Sarwan in their setup

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 24, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

"West Indies slip and stumble, but draw level" Come on this may well be true but Sammy batted his heart out and saw his team home on 60 odd not out. If this was an Indian his name would be in title like " Superb Sammy sees India home " The man deserves his name in the headline here, you can tell an Indian wrote this headline, lets leave biasses at home and give credit where it's due please . . .

Posted by chechong0114 on (November 24, 2013, 16:32 GMT)

Happy to see West Indies win but whats even better is that they didn't wait to get a victory when the series was already decided they are still in the contest and I truly hope they can go on to win the series and salvage some momentum for their trip to New Zealand.

Posted by batman_gothamcity on (November 24, 2013, 16:31 GMT)

Well played WI congrats for a good win . Now the decider will be played in Kanpur a day game and early start . The cold conditions will be conducive for fast bowling and both teams could pack their sides with extra seamer . Dhawal Kulkarni can be given a chance and he bats Ok so either Jadeja or Yuvraj could be rested . Also feel that some alternate to Yuvraj/Raina should be there . They both are superb ODI players but currently both seem to be out of form for a long time . Ambati Raydu could come in , though Pujara should have been there considering next ODI series in SA and then NZ .All the best to both the sides .

Posted by arnie66 on (November 24, 2013, 16:31 GMT)

There are certain improvements India needs to make in the squad before the world cup. Yuvraj and Raina look suspect. The best batsman in India after Kohli is Pujara and I see him as the long term No. 4 as he can stabilize the innings if there's a batting collapse. There's no obvious candidate for No. 5. There's rayadu, tiwary, raina, yuvraj, rahane (if he can bat at that slot) and others. In addition though Jadaje has bowled well in most matches, he has not done justice to his role as the bowling all rounder. For someone who has scored well in domestic matches, he should be able to contribute more from a batting perspective. The bowling is weak but I don't see any way around it..Maybe we should try Ojha or Mishra is some one day internationals. But Dhoni is stubborn and opinionated and he won't change the combination until we lose badly.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

There were problems to the fielding today.Too many drop catches.The dew should've been an issue.But still catches win matches.You can't drop so many catches and still expect to win.Also what was Bhuvaneswar Kumar thinking?He bowled a full toss in the 4th ball of the 48th over which was hit for a boundary,and he bowls the next one as a full toss again asking to be hit.The runs required was reduced to 6 from 12 balls from 16 from 8.Everyone is responsible for this loss,but still that was foolish.Anyways congrats to WI.They played a much better game than in Kochi or in the test series.

Posted by ARJa on (November 24, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

Gayle's injury was very important to windies. Once you got rid off the big ego at the top of the order who was not contributing to the team, the team actually looked liked a team with more than one player contributing. Still, the brain-dead approach of the Bravos, Powell, and Simmons during various times at the innings including those which led to their demise reminds us clearly why this team is facing constant struggle. But, India should have scored 300+. Momentum was lost when Kohli was playing determined to get the 100 he failed in the previous game. That little fiasco meant Raina took the attack resulting in his dismissal and because Kohli failed to get the 100, the expected fireworks never came at the end. Good day for windies. Could have been better.

Posted by sonu77 on (November 24, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

No Gayle.. No Pollard..No Roach..But still manage to beat so called no.1 team in the world at their home !!! welldone West Indies !

Posted by romirom on (November 24, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

if west indies can chase the target of 289 so easily than india need to think about their pitches. They prepare so easy bating traks to make their bating stars and break the confidence of their good bowler.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

Wrong title .. They did extremely well in fact. Its india's terrible fielding that should be the highlighted

Posted by Garretjacks on (November 24, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

So much for all the Indians bashing the SL team for loosing against the NZers in the ODI when conditions were unfavorable and leaving some very rude remarks on the comment section. Sad stuff really, I hope you guys think twice before you post rubbish again after this defeat on the hands of West Indies.

Well played Sammy they definitely showed immense courage and played splendid innings by himself

Posted by yorkslanka on (November 24, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

a huge well done to the West Indies on a good win. fantastic innings from Sammy to take the game away from the Indians..hard luck india...will make the series more interesting now...the Windies top order need to go and make the big scores after building their innings instead of throwing away their wickets..

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

great match, both teams fought till the very end.

Posted by NAYANADINI on (November 24, 2013, 16:17 GMT)

Sensible batting by sammy. Atlast windies have played unlike a club team for the first time in the tour against the world no.1 odi team. Terrible fielding by team india which let them down. India dint play like a world no.1 team. Bad day for them.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 15:55 GMT)

I think yuvi has disappointed in all departments and drop catch sumed up the game.

Posted by CodandChips on (November 24, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

@Prakmca I've heard Jadeja has 3 domestic triple hundreds.Surely that's enough for him to be considered an all rounder? He is far better than bits and pieces players like Mohammed Hafeez, Shane Watson or Ben Stokes.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

I'm a south African who enjoys good batting display by great batsman in Odi therefore Kohli is one of the only two batsman in recent times to pay my fully earned money to watch him bat along side South African Odi captain AB DeVilles

Posted by CodandChips on (November 24, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

India have proved they are not "fla track bullies". This pitch looks hard to bat on, and WI attack is strong. I like a turning pitch, batsmen should have to earn their runs. In fact I think the pitch should turn more- we are in India after all and I think they should use their home advantage. When England next return to India I hope matches are played on dust bowls.

Ashwin looks much improved in ODIs. Well done to him.

Darren Bravo is talented but has poor temperament unfortunately.

Posted by Prakmca on (November 24, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

Our allrounder's Jadeja batting ability exposed today. Playing down maiden over of 45th over. Ridiculous. He is just an bowler.. NOT AN allrounder.....Please stop calling him as ALLROUNDER.

Posted by JustIPL on (November 24, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

Unlucky from Kohli. Gavasker's prediction has not been very good for him. He must be highly eager to eak out more centuries but 99 time this time. Anyway, he is not going to break Tendulkar's 51 centuries record keeping in view the less number of tests that india want to play in the time to come. May be by the time kohli reaches 40 like tendulkar india might be playing only t20s. lol.

Posted by CodandChips on (November 24, 2013, 13:38 GMT)

Surely Kohli can be rested. He is a brilliant batsman. Maybe a holiday followed by some 4 day cricket could set him up for a good series in South Africa, because for all his talent, he hasn't set the world of test cricket alight yet. Maybe he'll do so in England (unfortunately I fear it will happen, especially after our abysmal performance in Brisbane)

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 13:33 GMT)

wil it not b a chance 2 wast indies as kohli & Dhoni Exit esrly ?

Posted by CodandChips on (November 24, 2013, 13:31 GMT)

Well batted India. Playing against some talented bowlers in these conditions is a tough effort and they've shown they are definitely a lot more than "flat track bullies".

Excellent pitch, something for the bowlers. I wouldn't mind if it was turning more- this is what home advantage is all about.

Ashwin looks much improved in ODIs so well done to him. Maybe it's his confidence after the tests. Dhoni is keeping well

Posted by lancenayak on (November 24, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

@MB I am saying DK bcoz after MSD India need WK batsman and he his such a fine player..when u can give more 100 matcher to Rohit y not DK. I dunno from where he plays and donot wanna discuss it. As on comparing DK with VK or SRT, I think we shudnt be comparing two players even if they r playing in same era.. Pujara and Rahane are gud batsman but there is no place for them at the moment bring DK or Sanju Samson as we will be needing a Proper WK Batsman after MSD. if you ask me il go for Pujara in between Rahane and Pujara...

Posted by GreenBouncySpin on (November 24, 2013, 12:58 GMT)

Bringing DK in place of Yuvi is the last thing India must do. It should be Raina who needs to go. But replacing Raina with DK is again not a good option. Pujara is much more promising and he should come in at #4. Yuvi will slide down to #5. Now if you look at the batting order - Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Pujara, Yuvi, Dhoni - you see a strong batting line up without ifs and buts. We won't miss Raina's bowling as much as we have part timers in Yuvi and Rohit.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 12:46 GMT)

dhoni should try out youngsters with an eye on WC 2015 & the future

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (November 24, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

@Mandu Bharadwaj We are talking about one day matches here, not test matches. Pujara is not a one day player. Just look at how badly he was struggling in IPL even against B grade bowlers. He does not have the shots for limited over format. And Rahane has a very lean physique. He can't even hit the ball in the air. How can such players play one day cricket in this day and age? Maybe in future they may become ready, but definitely not immediately.

Posted by golgoal on (November 24, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

i think sehwag needs to be a strong contender for middle order berth in both tests and one dayers. yuvraj's utility is very limited. these days he is not a good fielder either. and less said about his bowling, the better it is - just gets something done in 1 out of 10 matches. and dinesh karthik needs to be given proper chances. the poor guy gets to play once in a blue moon, performs decently, and then is let go. he has a lot of potential, and is a superb fielder too.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 12:12 GMT)

Interesting to see what the selectors ll do as Indian batting is already over, let's hope all the best for Yuvi.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 12:11 GMT)

In the first 2 practice matches in the Champions Trophy, DK scored 2 consecutive breathtaking centuries that did not impact his average. Yuvi has never done that overseas. While on the subject of batting, Jadeja is looking less & less like an allrounder (although he bowls well) and Ashwin looks more & more like one. Of course Irfan when fit would be the perfect no 7 batsman & allrounder.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (November 24, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

bring back dinesh karthik. bring back dinesh karthik. bring back dinesh karthik. when rohit can be given hundreds of chances, why not dinesh??? the guy has much better technique and attitude than yuvraj at least. and is a much better fielder too. with these new rules in place, yuvraj isn't going to be bowling much either. so if he is not makes bucketful of run, he is not much use.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

finally both teams have an even chance to win a match in this entire series. the team that responds to a particular situation will win. nice to see virat today, yesterday someone commented saying akmal should be like virat( who was called a run machine in that post) but today he showed he is not only a run machine but also a running machine, see hos stats today 2/3 of his runs were runs not boundries.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

ms dhoni izzz one man army

Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia on (November 24, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

Yuvraj is not in the best of form at home. He will find it extremely difficult to survive against the Saffie bowlers in their home conditions. Time to bring in Pujara who has an exceptional record in List A cricket and can be a good No. 4 batsman in ODIs.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

@DK lovers

Is DK next Virat or SRT?? If DK failed, call Yuvi. If Yuvi failed call DK again. Stop this musical chair. You were chasing behind Rohit for the sake of LOVE for DK & now it seems now that time is for Yuvi & Raina when Rohit went out of your reach. DK is playing since 10 years & is no where near par standard. We have Pujara, Rahane in waiting & we are pressing vote for DK here. We have seen his best most recently in A tour of SA. He single handedly lost the matches against AUS A from winning positions & couldn't score 25 runs @6 per over for IND. Please stop regional biased post in favour of him. Because it would lead to same position for team IND where K. Shrikant left Indian selector' role. We can't forget white washes in ENG & AUS due to only & only poor biased selections.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Why jadeja came to bat before Ashwin? Ashwin is a much better batsman than Jadeja who is just eating away balls.. A very irritating site to see Jadeja bat.. Can't hold the bat properly..

Posted by nazish_altaf on (November 24, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

virat is our new sachin ..... getting out on 99 sad luck

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

kohli very stiles bestman

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

No problem yuvi do well in next game

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:36 GMT)


Virat Kohli scored 2018@53.10 at home in 49 matches; scored 1930@48.25 && 1114@61.88 at neutral in 24 matches.

MS Dhoni scored 3268@59.41 in 91 matches at home, 3044@47.56 in 93 matches at away & 1304@50.15 at neutral in 50 matches.

Virat scoring heavily at away & neutral than home with amazing SR. Same as of MS but the difference is MS got less chances to bat as compared to Virat. The reason is obvious that top 3 or 4 are enough for any opponent. Virat's average at home is high just because he stayed at the end of innings many times resulting in many not out innings.

So my request to you {goga}, Please come with credible stats to post here & remove mess from your mind about Indians.

By the way, Virat is playing at 84 not out .....status on 10.34GMT.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:29 GMT)

I think it's time for Yuvi to go back to the drawing board, I.e. Ranji Trophy. How many chances will het get at his age when there are so many youngsters knocking the doors...

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

@lancenayak, perfectly put, yes DK should come in to the side. Yuvi is no longer being used as a bowler. Comes in at 69 for 2, can't play Narine & Permaul, strike rate 57. Also can't play fast bowlers on Indian pitches. In fact, Pujara will also be needed on the tough bouncy pitches of Oz instead of Raina.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:20 GMT)

yuvraj is finished. pathetic batsman. cant even bat. karthik should be recalled.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

kohli- 49 odis in india 72 out of india Dhoni- 94 odi in india 140 out of india

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

@goga Dhoni 240 odi only 93 in india 147 outside india kohli 120 odi 49 in India and 71 outside india...haters going to hate no matter what but please stop telling wrong stats and check cricinfo stats guru

Posted by lancenayak on (November 24, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

I think its time to say Thankyou and bye bye to Yuvi..Bring DK in at no 4

Posted by goga on (November 24, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

Dhoni 240 ODI, only 93 out of India, Kohli Total 120 ODI, only 40 put of India Good strategy of record for Indian Players.

Posted by   on (November 24, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

wil it not b a chance 2 west indies as rohith exit esrly?

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