India v West Indies, 2nd ODI, Visakhapatnam November 25, 2013

Dew made conditions unfair - Dhoni

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MS Dhoni, the India captain, has said the dew in Visakhapatnam during the second ODI created "unfair" conditions for them while bowling and fielding. Dhoni said he did not expect so much dew right from the beginning of the match, in which West Indies chased 289 in the last over with two wickets to spare to level the three-match series 1-1.

"I think it was a bit unfair. It becomes a bit unfair when in this time of the year you play with so much of dew with two or three spinners," Dhoni said. "But that's part and parcel of the game. It was tough to field with the amount of dew. We saw a few of the fielders throwing the ball to the wicketkeeper and it went to the short third man areas. That's something tough."

At the time of the toss, which West Indies won to put India in to bat, Dhoni had said he would have opted to chase as well because they had been doing that well and because of the dew factor.

"It was a very bad toss to lose," Dhoni said. "At this time of the year, we never expected the dew to fall so early. Right from the first over itself there was plenty of dew. The outfield was completely wet. There was no real swing for the fast bowlers. I don't think [there was] much for the spinners, there was a glimpse of turn when the ball was changed."

When asked about Yuvraj Singh's form, Dhoni backed the middle-order batsman to fire after his recent run of below-par scores.

"He is someone who can bat well at No. 4, someone who can really dominate the opposition," Dhoni said. "Last few games, he has struggled a bit. At times it happens when you're under pressure, the first 15-20 deliveries become crucial. If you're not able to pass that phase, you have to be considerate about it. Once he gets a few runs, you'll see a different Yuvraj Singh."

Yuvraj's scores in the this series read 28 and an unbeaten 16, and in the seven-match ODI series against Australia, in which over 3500 runs were scored in 11 innings, he managed 19 runs from four innings with a highest score of 12.

"Apart from the talent he has, he's someone who does really well once he's confident and dominates a tournament or series by series," Dhoni said. "He makes sure the team wins a tournament."

Dhoni also said Yuvraj needs to be given more time to get comfortable with the No. 4 slot in the line-up. Suresh Raina had been India's No. 4 in the ODI series against Australia after Ambati Rayudu was tried at the same position against Zimbabwe, and Dinesh Karthik had batted at No. 4 in most of the games in the tri-series in the West Indies and in the Champions Trophy in England.

"Yuvi is under a bit of pressure," Dhoni said. "We wanted Yuvi to be comfortable at his slot. He has batted well at No. 4. Give him a series. Raina has also done well at 5. We are just looking at options. We don't really have any options. I still stand by it. But at the same time, we need to see if we can take some pressure off Yuvi."

Dhoni also backed the bowlers, who were unable to defend 289, and said they did a "fantastic job" to take the match into the final overs and only the spinners, R Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja, conceded less than six runs per over.

"The bowlers did a fantastic job to take the game to the last over," Dhoni said. "Overall I'm very happy with the performance. It was tough for them. But I was happy with the way they bowled as a unit. If you see the whole of 2013, they have done well."

The final match of the series will be played in Kanpur and since it is a day game, it's unlikely the dew will be a factor.

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  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 30, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. Funny thing is that I can't find a 'Dew factor' reason in India Vs Australia matches. Dhoni pointed about flat pitches and fielding restrictions which too in matches where India won. Then how can you compare Baily and Dhoni in an Ind Vs WI series!

  • INDSlider on November 28, 2013, 9:00 GMT

    @ Fast_Track_Bully: I was tryng to show Bailys professionalism and Gentlemenliness. It is unfair for the winner when the looser highlights this issue and especially only when they loose.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 28, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. No one asked him to be quiet!. Why are you critisizing MSD for Baily's silence on that! May be Baily was not aware of that?

  • mathewjohn2176 on November 27, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    Posted by Hesam on (November 26, 2013, 8:54 GMT), During World Cup 2011 final, it was Srilanka who won the toss and decided to bat first by knowing the condition of dew in the late night.So you can't blame the Indians for srilankan team failure.If they want ,they could have asked india to bat first.So no point to complain here.

  • INDSlider on November 27, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    @ Fast_Track_Bully: Yea it could be true mate. But the problem is that dew factor comes to play only when Ind looses otherwise no mention of dew. Baily never complained on dew even if we lost or won.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 27, 2013, 4:23 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. They are not excuses, dude. Read second sentence, he accepted that it as a parcel with the game. He explained what was the problem there. Whats wrong in that? He need to kept quiet in the press?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 27, 2013, 1:01 GMT

    @Nampally, I'll be hard-pressed to believe that full-tosses are by design. Yes, they need to take time to dry the ball. I agree on that point.

  • legendscricket on November 26, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    The West Indies will have something to prove again -IE-:That is that they are on the ascendency in World cricket.They will make a statement to India that not only can they compete with the top four teams, but that they can beat them.Bravo will be looking to show his counterpart-MS Dhoni that the team earned their win, and they will.Bravo will look to reward the selectors and fans that he is deserving of the trust that has been placed upon him.Rampaul and Co. will bowl India to a standstill-meaning they will show them that anything they do-We will equal or surpass.No Kidding. If Narine gets early wickets, he will be marvelous,hard to pick and harder to play.Confidence levels will rise.Windies fielding must improve along with their shot selection-I AM backing Samuels to score heavenly-yes folks-HEAVENLY.Team work will be the key-playing as a unit-M0re awareness from Bravos,Powell,Walton, Simmons and Co.Darren Sammy will give his all-Tonight it will be enough.

  • on November 26, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    India should have won that match but blaming the playing condition is not a right option, i understand getting defeated by WI at home is shame but no worries India will win in KANPUR truely said by @Rally_Windies Indian Bowlers will learn from this Defeat .

  • Nampally on November 26, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    @Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist: I watched the game when Sammy was batting - including the last 15 overs. Kumar bowled well on length spot. But when Sammy swung him for 4 towards mid wicket, he bowled 2 full tosses in a row. Shami started with length ball but as soon as he got hit he bowled a full toss -slogged for six. He followed it up with another lower full toss - a single to mid off. When ever Sammy came (not other bats) they were bowling him full tosses & I was getting mad!. It seems strange to think it was a coincidence or due to ball slipping!. It was clearly by design - which back fired! Shami got 2 wkts in an over which had Zero full tosses- one short of a length outside the off- caught by Dhoni & another short pitch ball caught by Rayudu. Shami @ 140 + KPH should use the pitch to do the magic for him. I sympathize with India for having to deal with a wet ball. But there was sawdust + towels provided to dry the ball. Take your time to dry the ball & make every ball count!

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 30, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. Funny thing is that I can't find a 'Dew factor' reason in India Vs Australia matches. Dhoni pointed about flat pitches and fielding restrictions which too in matches where India won. Then how can you compare Baily and Dhoni in an Ind Vs WI series!

  • INDSlider on November 28, 2013, 9:00 GMT

    @ Fast_Track_Bully: I was tryng to show Bailys professionalism and Gentlemenliness. It is unfair for the winner when the looser highlights this issue and especially only when they loose.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 28, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. No one asked him to be quiet!. Why are you critisizing MSD for Baily's silence on that! May be Baily was not aware of that?

  • mathewjohn2176 on November 27, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    Posted by Hesam on (November 26, 2013, 8:54 GMT), During World Cup 2011 final, it was Srilanka who won the toss and decided to bat first by knowing the condition of dew in the late night.So you can't blame the Indians for srilankan team failure.If they want ,they could have asked india to bat first.So no point to complain here.

  • INDSlider on November 27, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    @ Fast_Track_Bully: Yea it could be true mate. But the problem is that dew factor comes to play only when Ind looses otherwise no mention of dew. Baily never complained on dew even if we lost or won.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 27, 2013, 4:23 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great. They are not excuses, dude. Read second sentence, he accepted that it as a parcel with the game. He explained what was the problem there. Whats wrong in that? He need to kept quiet in the press?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 27, 2013, 1:01 GMT

    @Nampally, I'll be hard-pressed to believe that full-tosses are by design. Yes, they need to take time to dry the ball. I agree on that point.

  • legendscricket on November 26, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    The West Indies will have something to prove again -IE-:That is that they are on the ascendency in World cricket.They will make a statement to India that not only can they compete with the top four teams, but that they can beat them.Bravo will be looking to show his counterpart-MS Dhoni that the team earned their win, and they will.Bravo will look to reward the selectors and fans that he is deserving of the trust that has been placed upon him.Rampaul and Co. will bowl India to a standstill-meaning they will show them that anything they do-We will equal or surpass.No Kidding. If Narine gets early wickets, he will be marvelous,hard to pick and harder to play.Confidence levels will rise.Windies fielding must improve along with their shot selection-I AM backing Samuels to score heavenly-yes folks-HEAVENLY.Team work will be the key-playing as a unit-M0re awareness from Bravos,Powell,Walton, Simmons and Co.Darren Sammy will give his all-Tonight it will be enough.

  • on November 26, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    India should have won that match but blaming the playing condition is not a right option, i understand getting defeated by WI at home is shame but no worries India will win in KANPUR truely said by @Rally_Windies Indian Bowlers will learn from this Defeat .

  • Nampally on November 26, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    @Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist: I watched the game when Sammy was batting - including the last 15 overs. Kumar bowled well on length spot. But when Sammy swung him for 4 towards mid wicket, he bowled 2 full tosses in a row. Shami started with length ball but as soon as he got hit he bowled a full toss -slogged for six. He followed it up with another lower full toss - a single to mid off. When ever Sammy came (not other bats) they were bowling him full tosses & I was getting mad!. It seems strange to think it was a coincidence or due to ball slipping!. It was clearly by design - which back fired! Shami got 2 wkts in an over which had Zero full tosses- one short of a length outside the off- caught by Dhoni & another short pitch ball caught by Rayudu. Shami @ 140 + KPH should use the pitch to do the magic for him. I sympathize with India for having to deal with a wet ball. But there was sawdust + towels provided to dry the ball. Take your time to dry the ball & make every ball count!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 26, 2013, 17:17 GMT

    @Nampally, there was no particular orchestrated tactic to bowl full tosses. Don't you think? Ball was slipping and that made it difficult to bowl what you are asking them to bowl.

  • Nampally on November 26, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    @Ram Mullapuddi: I think your comments are most valid because you have played on that ground & know the conditions. However I do not understand what 464% increased dew quantification that you have made, means! one is to assume this will result in a totally wet ball as though it is soaked in water? Outfield has to be leaching out water to cause a totally wet ball. That seems impossible because outfield was fast & the ball was travelling without any water resistance. Much as I appreciate the heavy dew, it was also the erratic Indian seam bowling that decided the issue. If you give the ball a chance to bounce on the surface, it would have done some tricks of the seam. But bowling so many full tosses is asking for punishment. I expect a seam bowler to pack off side with 3 outfielders & bowl just short of length about 18" outside the off stump & see the fun! - like Shami's last over. WI had no chance to chase 288! Dew or Not, Indian tactics were wrong when they bowled full tosses instead.

  • Twinkie on November 26, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    What's this talk about haters? I happen to cheer for the Indian team as many Indians do for the Windies against other opposition. Dhoni's comment was unfair in that he has often been the beneficiary of conditions that suited his team as every other team has been at some time. The difference is that though our captain may mention the unfavourable conditions, we do not call them "unfair" since its all an accepted part of the game.

  • INDSlider on November 26, 2013, 9:42 GMT

    Best finisher has become best excuser. It is a shame. See below for more of his dew complaints (not due complaints...lol).

    When Ind lost: 1st ODI (Aus vs Ind): MS Dhoni, India captain: "The way we started we weren't able to build partnerships. We should have got closer. ..........Spinners did well, but we have to consider the dew factor". 3rd ODI (Aus vs Ind)MS Dhoni: " There was a bit of dew, the individuals will have to step up, you have to back your strength...."

    When Ind won 2nd ODI: "It was an ideal pitch, fast outfield, but you need to keep the shape as a batsman, that's what they did well"

    But, Baily never complained about dew in any of the 3 matches we lost. It is for the readers to judge.

  • Hesam on November 26, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    What about the world cup final in 2011. Sri Lankans couldn't handle the wet ball. Even grate Murali could not ball. That time Mr. Dhoni did not complain.

  • Samdanh on November 26, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    His concern raised only when India loses bowling second. Fair and square if opposition suffers.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 26, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    @Ezra god's-son, Dhoni did complain against Aussies about dew and did say it helped the team. Ball was changed some 3-4 times in this odi and players were plucking out mud from their spikes. Dhoni was the one who was on the field and he is informing first hand what he saw. Don't trust him? Ok, go look at the weather report for that day. Don't trust it either? That's very dignified. Right?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 26, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    Haters never gonna see the difference between reasons and excuses. Haters should tell us, when was the last time the ball was changed 3 or 4 times during an ODI's second half. When was the last time they saw fielders taking mud from their spikes on such a regular basis? Before you guys lay into Dhoni, try to figure out the weather report for that day and come back with your troll. Unprecedented dew was the main and only reason India lost. Simple as that! The gulf between us and Windies is so much that in spite of this unprecedented dew, Windies won with only 3 balls to spare. Simple as that!

  • Rally_Windies on November 26, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    i usually have respect for Dhoni ...

    but in this case, had India batted 1st and Won, he would have said : "India made better use of the conditions" ..

    also, dew gives "fast bowlers" and "seamers" an advantage , with the ball skidding off the surface and rushing the batsmen ....

    India did not have UDAV ....

    and banked to much on spin ......

    This is squarely a tactical blunder on the part of India ....

    It is good that they lost.... had they won, they would not learn from the error .......

  • BustIPL on November 26, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    India scored due to dew factor in fact. Indian spinners did not go for a plenty of runs which shows that dew did not make impact. It was the failure of Mohit (another IPL failure), shami who has limited promise and Bhuvi is not a death bowler at all.

  • on November 26, 2013, 0:34 GMT

    Where was the dew when R.Ashwin S.Raina and R.Jadeja were taking wickets and cosectives 2 and overall 6 catches were putdown in which 4 of them were easy one. i think this statement is childish and baseless from (Pak)

  • Twinkie on November 25, 2013, 23:36 GMT

    Lost some respect for you here, Dhoni! No problem with you mentioning the dew but "unfair" is not the correct term here. It was just the luck of the draw this time. If Windies had lost the toss and had to face these conditions, as I'm sure they've had to before, would that have been"unfair"? Playing in the conditions that present - that's cricket! Your "unfair" comment - not cricket!

  • Nampally on November 25, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    Dhoni's search to fill #4 spot is futile. While the top 3 Indian batsmen- Dhawan, Rohit Sharma & Kohli have been outstanding & world class, the Indian batting gets "Iffy" after that. Pujara is the best bet to fill the vacant #4 spot. He is equally at ease with both fast & spin bowlers. Pujara's inclusion will make India's top 4 as the best in the World Cricket today. When there is already a guy staring at you, you do not ignore him & try to look beyond. The #4 spot is reserved for a sheet anchor who holds the batting together by playing out at one end. It was a sheer mockery when Aussies in recent ODI series dismissed both Raina & Yuvraj with greatest ease by bringing in M. Johnson! Do not try to fit a square peg in a round hole. Yuvraj & Raina are great hitters of the ball but they cannot play a bouncy fast bowler, which any #4 should be equipped to play.The standard excuse of Pujara's slow running or weak fielding sounds rich when the "regulars" Ashwin & Ishant may be even worse.

  • Harmony111 on November 25, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    It's not about dew but EARLY & EXCESS dew.

    @Ajith Priyankara / Kevin Riemers:

    Even when India have won chasing, MSD has always said dew made it easier. He said this in Nagpur. He said the wicket was ideal for batting & had quick outfield when India won in Jaipur. Pls check his post match comments.

    @Rahul_78:

    I don't see how MSD is wrong here. During the Oz Series, he had said that while Yuvi has done a great job for India at #4, did India have a replacement in case Yuvi got injured before WC? Thus he asked Raina to bat at #4. #4 & #5 may seem the same but there's a slight difference nevertheless in terms of time available, approach, Powerplay. A bit like Opening & #3.

    MSD didn't ask Yuvi to bowl here perhaps cos Yuvi went for runs vs Oz & he did not want Yuvi to get under even more pressure given that he is not getting runs. Yuvi might have been exp with a super wet ball.

  • Nampally on November 25, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    Bad luck for India to be so over whelmed by "Dew Factor!. Dhoni says that it was difficult for the spinners to grip the ball. But fact of the matter is India had 3 seamers in the side who gave away more runs( 157 runs in 22 overs) than the spinners ( 123 runs in 27 overs). The real issue was the Seamers were focussing more on full tosses to be economical & Sammy sent most full tosses to 4 or 6. Had Shami bowled similar ball that dismissed Simmons - just short of length outside the off with 6-3 off side field, the runs would have been hard to get. The same applied to Mohit & Bhuvi- also bowling full tosses instead of yorkers. Dhoni & his bowlers used wrong tactics. Secondly there were too many dropped catches- at least 3 by Dhoni + others. One caught behind off Sammy was not even appealed for! Fielders always seemed in wrong spots- field placement errors. Although Dew may have been a big factor, erratic bowling & fielding lapses caused the Loss. This is where India needs better effort!

  • on November 25, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    Even if dew made it such unfair, I think Dhoni has to be a bigger man here. He faces the 8th ranked team at home and such a complaint is not acceptable. He needs to concede the victory to WI and plan to tackle the conditions in the next match.

  • LegSpinBowlr on November 25, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    Happy to see dhoni support Yuvi, hes a talented player and will come good with backing just like Rohit and YV will be crucial for the 2015 WC, for all guys blasting yuvi remember his QF knock against australia in 2011 WC.

    I am happy about sammy getting 50* hes a gud talent just that he needs to keep his calm head, i understand he threw away his wicket in tests but overall hes a better cool head than other WI players

  • on November 25, 2013, 15:36 GMT

    This excuse that india lost only because of due just ridiculous. Why didnt Dhoni complain against Australia? Why is the reporting and commentating so biased and clearly seeking of an excuse to make the Indians feel better about their loss? Give WI some credit! Both teams dropped catches.... Kohli was dropped on 66 went on to make 99. Raina dropped on 14 made 23. A combined partnership of 65.

    WI are not complaining so stop this. Undignified.

  • hadncs on November 25, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    whenever India fails dhoni has to say something for excuse ....here it is about the dew ...if you are a real gentleman please appreciate the skills of the other team... i cant imagine such gentlemen in the present Indian team...if the opposite happen he definitely say this is because of our pure talent....

  • Sachit1979 on November 25, 2013, 14:17 GMT

    Windies did multiple mistakes in this match still they managed to win the match because India did not play upto their potential. On Vizag's track, batting first, India should have set a target of 300+ but they failed. Later when Windies were 5 down with 100+ score still to be chased, Dhoni failed to grab the momentum. When Jadeja was keeping one end tight, not sure why Dhoni forgot about his golden arm Yuvraj who could actually bowl the same angle as Jadeja. Anyways good show by Simmons and Sammy. Sammy got an opportunity to silent his critics who were questioning his position in the team.

  • Karthijagadeesh on November 25, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    I accept that Yuvi need some time to revive. But, I wonder Y v still have Raina who has continuously failed to score big runs. I believe there are many other with genuine talents waiting for chance to proove themselves.

  • dhoni_sachin_fan on November 25, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    It was tough to play with dew with 3 spinners? It was spinners that got him the wickets and were economical....Fast bowlers were taken for runs

  • CricketChat on November 25, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Good to see WI play with some pride finally. Dew could have played its part, but since it is known in advance, teams usually plan some sort of remedies to overcome that during the match. WI will have something to play for now.

  • sonu77 on November 25, 2013, 12:33 GMT

    & dew was the biggest factor for India's series win against Australia too :P

  • on November 25, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Again Toss will be a crucial factor in Kanpur especially it is a day game. Teams winning the toss will certainly look to take advantage of the early morning wintry conditions in Kanpur & often we have seen that teams batting second in Kanpur have a higher chance of winning the game.. It's very unfair when the toss decides the game ...Hoping for a good battle in the Green Park Stadium.

  • anupkeni on November 25, 2013, 11:29 GMT

    Team India could have countered the dew factor by scoring 300+ runs. India were 194/3 after 35 overs. In the last 15 overs with 7 wickets in hand India scored only 94 runs which is simply unacceptable. Also India dropped 3-4 catches. Yuvraj Singh dropping Lendl Simmons was the turning point of the match.

  • on November 25, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    Hold on guys... i play at vishakapatnam stadium every weekend... There were 3 cyclones in 1 month near to that coast this year. Cyclone named HELEN just ended day before match day.. It was raining till midnight of match day... i am sure toss was crucial before match start. Dew was 464% more that day than any other part of India. Even India played to kenya loosing toss.. they would have won it in last over.

    Such was the dew factor that day... and usually it will be same at this part of year at this ground.

    Mentioning dew factor at vishakapatnam stadium is not at all foolish.. Because 99% of guys who commented on this.... dont exactly know the how bad no worst dew will be at that stadium.

  • on November 25, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Dhoni is narrow minded he never gives credit to opposite team and always made a lame excuse. Mr Dhoni be a sportsman please.

  • on November 25, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    India defeated due to non utilization of Yuvaraj,Raina's bowling - Dew normally helps like these part time bowlers - surprisingly changes in bowling also may effect batsmen mood. So what Dhoni says cannot be acceptable. Any how it is one of the best lesson to Dhoni - He should not forget these type of errors in future.

  • anver777 on November 25, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    When Ind team chased those big 300+ scores batting second against Ausies, dew played a major part too !!! Ind at one stage were well placed for another 300+ (BATTING 1st) but couldn't capitalize & battled to get 288 finally....... all credit to Sammy who played a good hand to level the series

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on November 25, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    @ Asif Rana: The Indians can certainly play way better than their Pakistani counterparts. You don't become the number 1 ranked ODI and number 2 ranked test side without being able to play in all conditions.

    India have recently won the Champions Trophy in England, as well as a tri-series in the West Indies.

    What have Pakistan won?

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 25, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    @Llik2 Yeah BD is the world beaters LOL OTOH congrats to WI for the much needed win. For all the rubbish that Sammy gets from his own supporters here is the pat. Well Done !!!

  • Siva_Bala75 on November 25, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    'Dew' is an understatement. It was water logging! Either don't play Day-Night or change the ball after every over for the team bowling second.

  • Gomzii on November 25, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    For dew keeping in mind ..India should have score more than 300. but after kohli's wicket, other batsman got slow down, specially Jadeja. Jadeja should get more time on batting, he is good all round, but scoring less than 20 runs in every alternate match doesnt make any sense. he is reflecting as a pure bowler. He need to play atlest last 7-8 overs. He cannot survive more than 3 overs.

  • Pavinasen on November 25, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    That is more the reason that India should have batted WI out of the game.No excuses for dew,and a weak bowling attack.Sort the latter and you could be a formidable force.

  • Sunil_Roger on November 25, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    Dhoni simply answers the questions posed by the press. So it's not as if he's coming out and complaining about dew and all those stuff. Be a bit fair even in your criticism of MS and the team. All those who have played cricket know how hard it is to play in wet conditions, so it is not a baseless reason. And moreover I remember MSD saying after the 362 run chase that "even though dew factor and field restrictions helped, Kohi and Rohit played very good innings". And a good captain is someone who stands by his team no matter what. And do you think Ind would have let the match go to the last over if we were batting second??

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 25, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    Please don't jump on Dhoni. He accepted that "But that's part and parcel of the game.". Some people will appear only when India lose a match! When India lost, they call it as 'sporting wicket' , when India win, they call it as Flat.lol.

  • CricketFever11 on November 25, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    @screamingeagle. Of course We do really undertand the matter. Matter is India cannot win under fair conditions where there is equal contest between bat and ball. As simple as that. Admits the reality and try to develop good bowlers with our blaming the dew.

  • VAQUAS on November 25, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    What about the 5 catched they dropped? Appreciate WI instead of making excuse of dew... They fought very well

  • pull_shot on November 25, 2013, 8:38 GMT

    Please stop complaining Dhoni is d same dew by which we won so many matches including WC final accept defeat gracefully

  • ramli on November 25, 2013, 8:31 GMT

    I don't think it is such a big loss to mourn or find fault ... when two sides compete well to earn a result it might be possible to name an "X" factor for the loss ... may be India's disadvantage quotinet was high ... what is wrong in stating it?

  • smudgeon on November 25, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    Weird comments - on the one hand it's "unfair", then it's part of the game? Even funnier are the comments from a lot of people here...you'd think India could win everything under any circumstances if it wasn't the weather, the pitch, fatigue, etc. You people do realise that cricket is played between two teams, right?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 25, 2013, 8:05 GMT

    Whoa! people go slow. They are not excuses. The outfield was wet as hell making it very slippery and unsafe for fielders and bowlers. Cheers to the brave Indians, they brought it this far. Just because some scores were chased some three weeks ago doesn't mean the playing conditions are still the same in the just concluded match now. If India was chasing, with so much dew, the match wouldn't even have come to the last over. We would have won with several overs to spare. So, get real haters!

  • PFEL on November 25, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    I'm disgusted, but not surprised, by Dhoni's excuses. They are just so typical. Nothing is ever their fault, or his fault. Be an adult and take some responsibility for once.

  • BRUTALANALYST on November 25, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    I thought this was really poor taste form Dhoni made me lose respect for him especially not giving any credit at all to how W.I played at all or to Sammy and the way he batted, really poor class.

  • Llik2 on November 25, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    West indies is better than india in all depertments.windies lost to bd when thier confidence was sky high aftr winning t20 world cup.it means bd is better than ind

  • on November 25, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    Dhoni has been on the lucky side in some of the matches. He should not be saying this now. It was a good contest and both had their share of good and not so good moments in the match. Also, Tendulkar had suggested a few years ago that the 50 overs should be split into 2 innings of 25 overs each. Such a move will even out the dew factor to a significant extent.

  • Albert_cambell on November 25, 2013, 7:12 GMT

    According to Dhoni, dew only comes when the opponent win the match.

  • Nutts on November 25, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    Stop cribbing about everything

  • screamingeagle on November 25, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    @Asifrana, did you even read the article? He was only saying that the dew started earlier than usual. Anyway, guys like you do not really understand (rather, do not want to understand) what the matter is. Thanks for posting and wasting space anyway.

  • Naresh28 on November 25, 2013, 7:05 GMT

    @asifrana - Flat track bullies have many victories all over the world. Yes our bowling unit is not comparable with most teams of the world but they surely do try and give it their best effort. Before you label a team like this, you just need to dig into the stats. These stats come from victories. Yes you can lose some and win some just be more realistic with your comments!!!

  • on November 25, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    Its so funny reading comments of JEALOUS neighbors :)

  • Albert_cambell on November 25, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    Where did all the dew factors go when you were chasing 360 against Australia?

  • on November 25, 2013, 7:01 GMT

    MSD Please stop giving excuses. WI chased better yesterday. Despite losing wickets regularly they did not allow the RRR to reach alarming height. In the end some calculated hitting was required which was provided by Sami.

  • sandeepknk on November 25, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    coudint understand that why dhoni didint give ball to yuvraj,he was the second wicket taker for india in world cup 2011.and got morethan 100 wickets in his career,then why dhoni not trying him atleast for one over,he wants to promote jadeja only?

  • Mustafa786110 on November 25, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    How pathetic excuse from Dhoni. He is a very good player but lacks sportsman's spirit a great deal. Its like he was playing at this ground or these conditions for first time. India plays most of their cricket at home and they shouldn't be alien to these conditions at all. Why can't MSD simply accept his defeat or atleast give credit to opposition? Nerveless wreck.

  • CricketFever11 on November 25, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    The worst bowling attack with today's International team...............

  • CricketFever11 on November 25, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    How Funny. India chased two 350+ scores against Australia recently, While Australian were bowling 2nd. Those were great victories. Now Indians at the receiving end and the loss was due to dew. What funny explanation. Under fair condition, where their is equal contest between bat and ball, Indians can never win. That is why they are called flat track world champions.

  • Llik2 on November 25, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    India should concentrate of the next match rather than illogical thoughts.

  • pitch_curator on November 25, 2013, 6:00 GMT

    While Windies have to be given their due credit Dhoni has a point. The balls were changed at least 3 times during the course of the second innings and fielding and bowling became a nightmare. You can see the dropped catch by Yuvi where the ball simply refused to stay in his hands. But these kind of factors are not in anyone's control and sothere is no use thinking about them or complaining. It was a good performance from India but an even better one from Windies who bowled beautifully and batted with better discipline than the previous games. Overall a good ODI game.

  • Llik2 on November 25, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    @kevin reimers,not only you ,but many of us also enjoys it.if this match lost for due factor then west indies lost last match for same reason.

  • 9ST9 on November 25, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    Last year India Played Aus. in the World T20, and there was a light drizzle just at the start of the Aussie Innings - Australia comprehensively defeated India by 9 wickets with more than 5 overs remaining. What Dhoni said was 'The wet ball is not good for spinners. It was like bowling in England. That was the main reason we lost.' Apart from being a good captain he is a champion excuse maker !!!

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    Dhoni needs to stop making excuses such as dew, fielding restrictions or bouncy pitches. It is time to wear the mature captain underwear and admit that WI beat them fair and square.

  • Rahul_78 on November 25, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    Sometimes it is very difficult to fathom the logic and explanations provided by MSD. Against Aussies Yuvi was moved to no 5 and Raina was promoted ahead of him at 4. While both have batted at 4 and 5 for long time previously and provided good results then what was the need of sudden shifts in batting order? Both failed miserably. MSD's explanation of grooming Raina for 2015 world cup to bat at no 4 holds no water. With age and fintess on his side what made him think that Yuvi wont be around to bat at no 4 in 2015? Also MSD could have used Yuvi the bowler more frequently as he used to in the past. Few wickets could have provided some confidence. But MSD has suddenly started bowling Raina lot more. Agreed that due to Jadeja bowling 10 overs Yuvi doesnt bowl that much but he could have bowled few more overs given to Raina. Selectors have also done Yuvi no favors by revoking his A grade contact while awarding Raina the same. Though Raina doesnt even gets selected in the 14 for Test squad.

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    if you lost the match give the credibitly the team who won the match . If Inida batted 2nd & won , its great win & no one will talk about due factor..

  • was1982 on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    Come on guys , reasons are many . what if the other team had defended and won the match , and there were chances when India could have won and if not it would have not gone to the final over

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    anybody notices how Dhoni comes up with hundred excuses when he loses a match..it's like his team his unbeatable. hardly gives credit to the opposition. i always wait till the end of the matches when India loses to see what excuses they come up with.it's fun.

  • siddhartha87 on November 25, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    Yes dew was the biggest factor for this loss. When Ahswin and Jadeja bowled with clean dewless ball they bowled beautifully.

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    oh please - Dew was always a factor in Odi's and even more so in India. I didn't see the aussies complaining about dew when 350 was twice chased against them.Nor did i see west indians complaining about dew when they lost first ODI defending a target. So why are u complaining dhoni.

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:18 GMT

    Yuvi was the key player in WC'11 and he is fantastic hitter of the ball so Dhoni rightly said give him time and sure he will be match winner in Wc'15

  • suresh66 on November 25, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    Dhoni is good at protecting his players but there is a reality check for the current one day team middle order batsman. Its time to look for replacments for Yuvi and Raina. They may save 20 or 30 runs through thier fielding ability but once it come to batting there is nothing much can expect even in indian conditions. we have to give chances for the likes of Pujara, Sanju Samson, Rehane and Raidu in future matches, and that will be the correct way to build a team for next world cup in Australia.

  • GRVJPR on November 25, 2013, 5:02 GMT

    Dew was the main reason India lost the match yesterday. It is difficult to catch the wet ball too.

  • Hindh on November 25, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    The Dew was so much that ball was changed multiple times in second half never seen that before... the match was effectively reduced to win the toss and win the match due to massive amounts of dew...Next match should be no prob for India as it is a day match..

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  • Hindh on November 25, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    The Dew was so much that ball was changed multiple times in second half never seen that before... the match was effectively reduced to win the toss and win the match due to massive amounts of dew...Next match should be no prob for India as it is a day match..

  • GRVJPR on November 25, 2013, 5:02 GMT

    Dew was the main reason India lost the match yesterday. It is difficult to catch the wet ball too.

  • suresh66 on November 25, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    Dhoni is good at protecting his players but there is a reality check for the current one day team middle order batsman. Its time to look for replacments for Yuvi and Raina. They may save 20 or 30 runs through thier fielding ability but once it come to batting there is nothing much can expect even in indian conditions. we have to give chances for the likes of Pujara, Sanju Samson, Rehane and Raidu in future matches, and that will be the correct way to build a team for next world cup in Australia.

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:18 GMT

    Yuvi was the key player in WC'11 and he is fantastic hitter of the ball so Dhoni rightly said give him time and sure he will be match winner in Wc'15

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    oh please - Dew was always a factor in Odi's and even more so in India. I didn't see the aussies complaining about dew when 350 was twice chased against them.Nor did i see west indians complaining about dew when they lost first ODI defending a target. So why are u complaining dhoni.

  • siddhartha87 on November 25, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    Yes dew was the biggest factor for this loss. When Ahswin and Jadeja bowled with clean dewless ball they bowled beautifully.

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    anybody notices how Dhoni comes up with hundred excuses when he loses a match..it's like his team his unbeatable. hardly gives credit to the opposition. i always wait till the end of the matches when India loses to see what excuses they come up with.it's fun.

  • was1982 on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    Come on guys , reasons are many . what if the other team had defended and won the match , and there were chances when India could have won and if not it would have not gone to the final over

  • on November 25, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    if you lost the match give the credibitly the team who won the match . If Inida batted 2nd & won , its great win & no one will talk about due factor..

  • Rahul_78 on November 25, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    Sometimes it is very difficult to fathom the logic and explanations provided by MSD. Against Aussies Yuvi was moved to no 5 and Raina was promoted ahead of him at 4. While both have batted at 4 and 5 for long time previously and provided good results then what was the need of sudden shifts in batting order? Both failed miserably. MSD's explanation of grooming Raina for 2015 world cup to bat at no 4 holds no water. With age and fintess on his side what made him think that Yuvi wont be around to bat at no 4 in 2015? Also MSD could have used Yuvi the bowler more frequently as he used to in the past. Few wickets could have provided some confidence. But MSD has suddenly started bowling Raina lot more. Agreed that due to Jadeja bowling 10 overs Yuvi doesnt bowl that much but he could have bowled few more overs given to Raina. Selectors have also done Yuvi no favors by revoking his A grade contact while awarding Raina the same. Though Raina doesnt even gets selected in the 14 for Test squad.