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'Preserve Tendulkar and Zaheer for South Africa 2013'

Harsha Bhogle, Sanjay Manjrekar and Sambit Bal discuss India's Test options and the changes they need to make starting this home season

ESPNcricinfo staff

August 29, 2012

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This week has been an exciting one for Indian cricket, with the Under-19 team winning the World Cup and the senior side humbling New Zealand in Hyderabad. But how much should one read into these victories? And do India seem like they're planning for their next major overseas trip, to South Africa in 2013? Sanjay Manjrekar and ESPNcricinfo Editor Sambit Bal join Harsha Bhogle in a discussion.

Extracts from the discussion below. The numbers in the brackets are the duration for each segment.

Reaction to the Under-19 World Cup win, and the players who stood out. (1.43 - 5.06)

Sanjay Manjrekar: You can be forgiven for having some expectations from the players because they played well in Australia. I was there for about a week and had a good look at the conditions there. That pitch had pace, bounce, seam and everything. If you were batting first, the conditions were testing, especially for Indian-bred batsmen. We should be happy because they put in such a good performance in alien conditions.

Three guys impressed me. Unmukt Chand looks destined to play for India. Smit Patel has got a good attitude behind the stumps, talks a lot. He's a very good wicketkeeper and a decent batsman, who'll come in at No.6 and 7 and get you those important runs. He is a guy India should look forward to because it's a nice combination - a keeper-batsman. There's Baba Aparajith, who is a tremendous talent. He looks like a proper offspinner who'll bowl you the 10 overs and guess what, he bats at No.3, and has the temperament of a batsman who bats at No.3.

The contrast in the quality of Test cricket between the series in England won by South Africa and the one going on currently in India against New Zealand. (5.07 - 8.50)

Sambit Bal: (Watching the final Test at Lord's) reinforced what I've believed in the last three to four years, which is that Test cricket should be played between good teams that can be competitive. Coming back and watching New Zealand was dire. New Zealand don't seem like they belong to Test cricket anymore.

SB: South Africa were there for more than 40 days and they had a week's gap between each Test, so it was a shocker they didn't play at least four Tests. England should certainly not be playing so many one-dayers. There should be more meaningful Test cricket. England try to cram two Test series' in a season. Sometimes they start Tests too early. They must play at least one big series of five Tests (each season).

SM: If it had been a stronger Test team (playing in India), you would have had a better Test match. That's the thing I like about Test cricket. If there is a mismatch, the match finishes early, in three or four days. In 50-overs cricket, if there's a mismatch, you have to go through the agony of 100 overs.

Can India go to South Africa well prepared if they continue to play on such turners in the home season? Plus, do India need to plan from now for that series or should the focus be completely on home matches? (8.51 - 11.56)

SB: South Africa is a long way away. I believe that you should play on different kinds of pitches. The fact that India were not playing on turners for the last couple of years…we were missing out on seeing turning pitches. Like Aakash Chopra has said on our pages a couple of times, you must prepare turning pitches for Test matches but create enough good pitches for first-class cricket. But the Test players don't play first-class cricket, there's no time. So that's a tricky one.

SM: I wrote an article about this on ESPNcricinfo a couple of weeks back and for me, the tour of South Africa has to be Indian cricket's goal. It has to be Indian cricket's goal because of what happened in England and Australia. If India win eight out of the 10 Tests at home and lose as badly as they did in England and Australia , Indian cricket is back to square one. We prepared turning pitches at home and won in the nineties but Indian cricket's image…'tigers and home, lambs overseas', that was the tag then. We have to show the cricketing world that we have done something about it (0-8) and the next time we go we have to convince skeptics that that was an aberration - that should be the goal. Everything that you do before has to be directed towards a good performance in South Africa.

Has the time come for someone like Ajinkya Rahane to open the batting in Tests, with Virender Sehwag dropping down the order? (13.00 - 17.34)

SB: Sehwag doesn't want to open in the long term, and he's been saying that for a while. He is not getting younger and his hand-eye co-ordination is not getting better, I don't think he's your opener for South Africa. That's the problem I have with this team, not the turning pitches. For 2013, you should be getting the batting order right which I don't think they do right now.

SM: In the first innings of the Hyderabad Test, [Gautam] Gambhir and Sehwag put on 38 runs and that was the highest partnership for them in the last 11 innings, which were played overseas. I'm convinced that Gambhir and Sehwag cannot be your opening combination in South Africa. The problem with playing them in the home season is that they'll get runs and you'll feel you have an in-form opening pair that you'll take to South Africa. It's a huge gamble. This is the disappointment that I have with the selection that nobody's thinking long-term, but in India, as a country, we never think long-term. To expect Sehwag in overseas conditions to give India the kind of starts he used to in his pomp is unreasonable.

How does Cheteshwar Pujara look for a long-term No.3? (17.35 - 20.00)

SB: Even in South Africa, he batted 40 to 50 minutes in really tough conditions with Sachin Tendulkar. He wasn't out of place. He did get out but he got behind the line of the ball well. I think he'll do well, he's a proper Test-match batsman.

SM: You can't call him a front-foot or back-foot player. He does the basics of batting right. If the ball is pitched up, he goes forward, if it's short he goes back. That's a rare quality for a modern-day batsman. He's a guy who just likes to go on and on with his batting, you saw how disappointed he was when he got out on 159. I haven't yet seen him against a constant attack of short balls. But he has to be your No.3 batsman.

 
 
"I'm convinced that Gambhir and Sehwag cannot be your opening combination in South Africa. The problem with playing them in the home season is that they'll get runs and you'll feel you have an in-form opening pair that you'll take to South Africa. It's a huge gamble." Sanjay Manjrekar
 

What are India's major bowling concerns? There's a shortage of bowlers coming through. (20.01 - 24.22)

SB: India haven't managed their bowlers well at all. We've always had bowlers who've shown promise over the last five to 10 years - Sreesanth, Ashish Nehra, Irfan Pathan - but where are they (now)? Why haven't they gone on to have a Test career - that's a question the selectors and team management need to ask.

SM: It's the culture we have in India. If you hold an open trial at a maidan, 90% of the people would want to bat, it's the opposite in Pakistan. Another danger in modern-day cricket is the number of academies and people who have got involved in coaching. What is dangerous is half-knowledge. When I see young people coming through in first-class cricket, spinners, with basically wrong actions, I feel so bad about it [because] there's no recovery. If you get yourself into a bad bowling action, there's only so much you can grow.

Do you see Zaheer Khan going to South Africa in 2013? (24.23 - 25.37)

SM: This is why I keep disappointed with the thought process of the selectors. When I saw Zaheer in Australia, I could see he was not capable anymore of taking the burden of all three forms of cricket. The selectors had to talk to him and ask him the format of his choice. If I was a selector: no more one-day cricket for Zaheer, keep him fresh only for Test matches.

SB: Zaheer playing one-day cricket makes no sense. He's not going to play the next World Cup.

And what about Sachin Tendulkar? (25.38 - 28.39)

SM: There are two important players who need to go to South Africa - Zaheer and Tendulkar. I cannot imagine the Indian batting team going to South Africa without Tendulkar in their team. These are two players that the selectors have to protect. Tell them, "we want you on the tour to South Africa and that's how we're going to plan your workload."

It will be one of his [Tendulkar's] toughest challenges. Tendulkar now is a solid batsman. He's not so much as defensive as Dravid was but he's become a proper, solid defensive player with a solid defence against pace and bounce. A lot of our younger players come with a short-ball problem, Tendulkar doesn't have that. His work ethic is so good. Throw him a challenge, tell him now that you want him there and he'll plan his cricket accordingly. Even in Australia, where everyone was failing, Tendulkar's footwork was the best of the lot.

SB: If Tendulkar is playing the whole of the home season, he is almost obliged to go to South Africa. You can't play 10 Tests here and not go to South Africa, because then suddenly a new guy will come in and bat at No.4. He almost owes it to Indian cricket that he goes to South Africa if he plays the home season.

Do you see Harbhajan Singh having a future in Indian cricket? And how's R Ashwin shaping up? (28.40 - 33.00)

SM: It would be a shame if his career comes to an end at this stage. He's doing the right thing. He's gone to England and is looking to take wickets. His wicket-taking form has to be observed by the selectors, not his rhythm because that has always looked pretty good. There are things he can learn from R Ashwin right now because Ashwin's lengths and lines, at least in home conditions, are very attacking at that's where Harbhajan, I thought, was a bit too short. He wasn't exploring too many options to take wickets.

SB: Ashwin gives you the impression of someone who's always thinking about his game and get better. He could get fitter, of course. It's amazing that a guy who's a product of this age is so unfit. But he'll get better there too. The challenge for him will be when he bowls on pitches that don't turn in South Africa, or in Australia where he struggled.

Numbers Game (33.48 - 38.08)

In the Hyderabad Test, spinners took 18 out of 20 wickets for India. It was the 20th time Indian spinners took 18 or more wickets in a Test. Three of those were in overseas Tests. Name the three instances.

What would be your Indian Test line-up for the tour of South Africa in 2013. You could leave a comment below or mail us on timeout@cricinfo.com

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Posted by jay_vkjay on (September 1, 2012, 18:56 GMT)

Why preserve Sachin. He tried his heart out to reach 100th 100. 4 tests in Eng, 4 tests and 7 ODI s in Aus,3 tests vs WI he can't make a 100. Finally he saw a great opportunity to play vs Bangladesh,his ever preferable opposition. So he preferred to play the Asia cup. First match vs SL failed, vs BAN he made 114(147) in an ODI even though strike rate looks like in a test match. Result is a humiliating defeat to BAN and India out of the compitition.Even Ravi Ashwin made a test hundred in the aforesaid period.Still need to preserve him for 2013 SA series.Hope that Sanjay Manjrekar is not the next chief selector....

Posted by lemonstealer on (September 1, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

save the tiger or parsis:P

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 15:32 GMT)

My team would be: 1.Sehwag 2.Rahane 3.Gambhir(CAPTAIN) 4.Sachin 5.Pujara 6.Virat(VC) 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin 9.Ishant 10.Zaheer 11.Umesh Reserves: 12.Aaron 13.Irfan 14.Ojha 15.Rohit 16.Karthik

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

gambhir, rahane, pujara, kohli, rohit sharma, suresh raina, unmukt chand, pinal shah/naman ojhia, ashwin,sree shant, balaji/ irfan pathan, vinay kumar, praveen kumar. it is a great team indian selectors to watch for. harbhajan should be given chance in 20-20 and test team. zaheer, sachin, sehwag and dhoni should retire earlyand should be given chances to players like ashok menaria, mandeep singh, murali vijay and abhinav mukund. pinal shah, naman ojha, nitin saini, smit patel and gautam are the choices for wicket keepers. My point is that gautam gambir should be given captainship and rohit sharma the vice captain. zaheer, sachin, sehwag and dhoni should retire early.it is sad v v s lakshman and rahul dravid, saurav ganguly all retired. we need to find and nurture young players like pujara and murali vijay to the standard of sachin, v v s lakshman and rahul dravid. ashwin is the real substitute for anil kumble. hardeep singh can be the bowler to watch.

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

SRT is not going to be younger his reflexes gone down he should gracefully take retirement.

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

Manjarekar, We know the cricket you have played during your prime time.

Please stop commenting...........Sachin and Zaheer should be shown the way out.

Anyway Sa tour will be whitewash let it be with under 19 guys

Posted by BvsRavi on (September 1, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

My Indian team to SA next year wud be.. AbhinavMukund, AjinkyaRahane, Pujara,Sachin,Kohli,Sehwag,Dhoni,Ashwin,Ojha,Zaheer,Umesh,AmitMishra,VaronAron,Ishant,SmitPatel,Gambhir. This is my test team preference.

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 9:04 GMT)

In his entire career Tendulkar has played well during 1996 to 2003 and then 2007 to 2011 WC ............What he did in this succesful period is that he played with open face, more face on with head falling towards leg as opposed to off...............Exactly this he needs to do now and in addition he should play straight with bat in front of pards............................This is exactly what I said in last test too.

Posted by Leggie on (September 1, 2012, 8:24 GMT)

Tendulkar is suddenly looking very vulnerable and Zaheer is not getting any younger and is on the wrong side of 30s for a fast bowler. Given this context, both should not be part of the SA series and it's high time India should plan life after Zaheer/Sachin.

Posted by KunzMan on (September 1, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

This team will be invincible. For My XI for SA: Gavaskar, SRT, VVS, Dravid, Dada, Prabhakar, More, Kapil, Kumble, Srinath, Raju. Unbeatable XI. Experience of SG and youth of SRT!

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (September 1, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

NO NEED FOR PRESERVING SACHIN ANYMORE . SECOND TIME HE HAS BEEN BOWLED ON A STRAIGHT DELIVERY . TIME TO RETIRE .

Posted by ak_singh on (September 1, 2012, 6:59 GMT)

the guys who tell that young players have to be given a chance have to look back nd see that even after 5 years of retirement of mr. saurav ganguly there's not a single yongster who has taken his place. this is the 1st series india are playing without mr. laxman n mr. dravid n u tell sir sachin to retire at dis instant. are you a indian cricket fan or do u want india to slip down in the test cricket. sir sachin should continue playing till he's comfortable n i m sure he'll b comfortable till he's at his best. right now indian cricket needs him badly n many youngsters have to be groomed under him so that they r ready to take fab five(sachin,ganguly,vvs,dravid n kumble) place. according to me d team for sa tour should be 1.Gambhir 2. Sehwag 3. Pujara 4. Sachin 5.Kohli 6. Raina 7. Dhoni 8. Harbhajan 9. Zaheer 10. Praveen K 11. Ojha 12. Ashwin 13. Yadav 14. Rahane 15. Rohit Sharma 16.Varun Aaron

Posted by   on (September 1, 2012, 5:56 GMT)

I would like to see the following Indian team in RSA 1) Gambhir 2) Kohli 3) Pujara 4) Tendulkar 5) Sehwag 6) Dhoni 7) Irfan 8) Ashwin 9)Zaheer 10) Ishant 11) Ojha...12) Yuvraj 13) Rahane 14) Chand 15) Yadav 16) Bhajji. Indian selectors should send compilsory 18 man touring party with couple of guys meant for the future to get the feel of those conditions. I would also push Kohli to open as he can open the innings and has the technique while Sehwag can come in at 5 and play the 2nd new ball.. I reckon Ishant has the ability to shoulder Indian pace attack atleast in Tests.

Posted by swamigadu on (September 1, 2012, 3:59 GMT)

sachin should play another 2 years

Posted by rosh280 on (September 1, 2012, 1:34 GMT)

umesh yadav, zaheer khan look pretty ordinary fast bowling. sree shant, prashant parameswaran and balaji are the wicket taking bowlers they should be recalled. in 50 over games vinay kumar and praveen kumar should be recalled. varun aron and ishant sharma are also good choices.

Posted by rosh280 on (September 1, 2012, 1:31 GMT)

gambhir, rahane, pujara, kohli, rohit sharma, suresh raina, unmukt chand, pinal shah/naman ojhia, ashwin,sree shant, balaji/ irfan pathan, vinay kumar, praveen kumar. it is a great team indian selectors to watch for. harbhajan should be given chance in 20-20 and test team. zaheer, sachin, sehwag and dhoni should retire earlyand should be given chances to players like ashok menaria, mandeep singh, murali vijay and abhinav mukund. pinal shah, naman ojha, nitin saini, smit patel and gautam are the choices for wicket keepers. My point is that gautam gambir should be given captainship and rohit sharma the vice captain. zaheer, sachin, sehwag and dhoni should retire early.it is sad v v s lakshman and rahul dravid, saurav ganguly all retired. we need to find and nurture young players like pujara and murali vijay to the standard of sachin, v v s lakshman and rahul dravid. ashwin is the real substitute for anil kumble. hardeep singh can be the bowler to watch.

Posted by rosh280 on (September 1, 2012, 1:04 GMT)

it is really great to hear the news that sachin and zaheer should be given rest now for south africa tour 2013. sehwag, dhoni it is the time to retire. dhoni is not playing at all. even sehwag. so they should retire. players like unmukt chand, abhinav mukund, murali vijay in test squad, ajinka rahane in one day, ashok menaria, mandeep singh. pinal shah and naman ojha is the great choice for dhoni, even smit patel is a great keeper, hardeep singh, yogesh nagar, abhishek nayar all of these are great players. they should be given fair chance to play for indian eleven. all rounders like jalaj saxena, akshay darekar, ishant jaggi,pradeep sangwan are the great choices for all rounders spot. ravindra jadeja should be called again.. for bowling sreeshant, prashant parameshwaran,sandeepsingh,ravikant singh,kamal passi (under 19) should be given chance. for 20-20 balaji, vinay kumar, praveen kumar and irfan pathan are the great choice. for spinners aswin and ojha is the great selection.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

Open wid rahane n yuvi,dan pujara for sure,kholi,manoj tiwary,raina,dhoni,ashwin. bring bck balaji or Sreesanth,ishant,zak. so my line up hud be:-

1) Rahane 2) Yuvi 3) Pujara 4) Kholi 5)Tiwary 6)Raina 7) Dhoni 8)Ashwin 9)Balaji/Sreesanth 10) Zak 11) Ishant...

RESERVE..Rohit,Dinda,Dinesh Karthik,Mithun,Saha/Smiit...

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 19:07 GMT)

I agree with SM coz 10dulkar loves to play...... He does also best......... I think he should carry on.........

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 16:47 GMT)

@All Tendulkar bashers: Sachin is still the top ranked test batsman from India. And only number 10 in the world. I believe it's you who should quit (commenting)!

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 31, 2012, 15:58 GMT)

Lots mention Rahane as an opener? In INdia-A these players should tested:- Rahane, Chand, Vijay,Mukund, Dhawan - quite frankly I would be happy to see two tall openers, but none come to the fore. Its a wonder that once long ago we had Laxman/Jaffer opening - where are the tall openers. Vijay is probably the only one of 5 mentioned. Maybe try Maninder Bisla out. There is plenty of talent in India, but its not unearthed with the team in mind/postion. Dravid also became a siort of an opener - as wickets fell quickly.

Posted by cricisme on (August 31, 2012, 13:52 GMT)

Sanjay Manjrekar doesn't know what he is talking about. i am not the authority either but I feel both Sachin and Zaheer are getting older. It is quite clear Sachin play because he enjoys playing and he is in love with himself his fame and glory -that does not mean he has to play international cricket. People like Sanjay M. should talk about Sachin's retirement not promoting him. Does Sanjay M ever think about developing replacement for these guys. SM please next time please give us forward looking statements...

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

Indian Test Team for 2013 South Africa: As per Batting Order 1.Gambhir 2.Rahane/Vijay/Mukund 3.Pujara 4.Tendulkar 5.Kohli 6.Sehwag 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin/Harbhajan 9.Zaheer 10.Umesh Yadav 11.Irfan PathanOther Members include 12.V Aaron 13.Ojahh 14.Isanth Sharma 15.Rohit Sharma 16.Dinesh Kartik/Smit Patel

Posted by Hraig on (August 31, 2012, 11:03 GMT)

Those who don`t know cricket ( Like ones who only watch T20s) can`t understand importance of Sachin in test team for away tours in late 2013 and 2014............ they all willl talk rubbish about sachin to retire............. lets see who will fill the boots of Dravid, laxman and Ganguly.......... even no player has taken permanent place of ganguly till now.............................

Posted by tanstell87 on (August 31, 2012, 8:33 GMT)

guess whoever wishing Tendulkar to retire has started watching cricket after India winning T20 World Cup 2007.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 8:15 GMT)

may be something like this: 1. Gambhir 2. Unmukt 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Sehwag 6. Dhoni 7. Irfan 8. Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10.Yadav/Ishant/Arron 11.Ojha

Posted by VyasD on (August 31, 2012, 7:04 GMT)

My Team: 1) Gambhir 2) Rahane 3) Pujara 4) Kohli 5) Sehwag 6) Dhoni 7) Umesh Yadav 8) Irfan Pathan 9) Ojha 10) Zaheer 11) Sandeep Singh 12) Ashwin 13) Aparjit 14) Rohit Sharma 15) U. Chand 16) Badrinath.

Reserve Wicketkeeper Saha. Tendulkar should hang up his boots to avoid embrassment in SA as he may find tougher to adjust his feets there (as he is not able to do even in Indian conditions). No doubt, SRT has been a big contributor to Indian cricket but now he can retire from all international cricket and help Indian batting line-up by becoming a batting coach.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

Adeel9: I don't think that Kallis will play till 2014. Before that he will retire.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

i am not with sanjay manjrekar......tendulkar is totally out of form.....he wont play 2015 world cup..............and south africa tour is long way to go.........pick new players...tendulkar cant play for whole life......

Posted by Rukky on (August 31, 2012, 5:10 GMT)

My Team Would Be : 1. Rahane , 3. Gambhir, 3. Pujara, 4. Sachin, 5. Sehwag / Unmukt Chand 6. Kohli, 7. Dhoni, 8. Aswin / Harmeet / Baba Aparajit, 9. Zaheer, 10. Umesh Yadav, 11. Varun Aeron / New Fast Bowler.

Posted by skumar77 on (August 31, 2012, 4:32 GMT)

It is time for Tendulkar to retire in grace & glory instead of being seen to act in his own narrow self interest. Take a leaf from Mr. Laxman, Mr. Tendulkar.

Posted by Adeel9 on (August 31, 2012, 3:20 GMT)

We are not going to win a series in SA unless we manage to get AMLA and KALLIS out. We need a bowler for that not a batsman.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 2:15 GMT)

I think this series decides how players are good in abroad!!!!!I think we are ready for another WHITE WASH! LOL!!

Posted by SanjeevHN on (August 31, 2012, 2:04 GMT)

Indian Test Team for 2013 South Africa: As per Batting Order 1.Gambhir 2.Rahane 3.Pujara 4.Tendulkar 5.Kohli 6.Sehwag 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin/Harmeet Singh 9.Zaheer 10.Umesh Yadav 11.Ishant Sharma Other Members include 12.V Aaron 13.Harbhajan/Harmeet Singh 14.Irfaan Pathaan 15.Rohit Sharma 16.Dinesh Kartik/Smit Patel

Posted by mansman on (August 31, 2012, 1:46 GMT)

@phoenixsteve, "best of the generation", never mind India.

Posted by BinduKumar on (August 30, 2012, 19:46 GMT)

This is a biased response from both SB and SM. When asked about Zaheer they told that he cannot play in ODI because he can't play in 2015 WC but when the question was Sachin they intelligently spoke only about tests and chose to ignore about ODIs!

Posted by Nampally on (August 30, 2012, 19:33 GMT)

@Naresh28: Thanks for your concurrence. @Rivernile: I understand - Fast bowlers need to be nurtured carefully! But aging stars also need to work constantly on their fitness. You tend to put on weight & lose flexibility much faster with age.The most sagacious & unselfish decision was made by VVS Laxman. He clearly spelled out that he is retiring so that another youngster gets the experience at home & the match temperament needed to play against SA, England & the Aussies abroad. Long range planning is so critical for any team to survive & BCCI was a total failure on this. Tendulkar is a legend & I am his great fan as also of ZAK. My approach would be: bring Irfan Pathan+ 2 more (e.g. D.Kulkarni &Shami Ahmad) upto the required level by coaching. Sachin & ZAK should play in Tests only + be ready for the overseas tour by keeping fit - Reassess next year & instead of "Fragile object" treatment. Suggest: Discipline Gambhir's game +open with Chand & have Sehwag #6 after Pujara, SRT &Kohli.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

i think sachin is just going to play this home series and afterwards he will retire . totally selfish man just want to increase number of centureis so that no one can break his record . but i will bet any one he is going to play all the home test matches and and and he will not score a single hundred in friendly batting pitch . Really i like guyz like laxman ,strauss, dravid ,before him any day any time. Think this if you can is Sachin is big or team india. Get life guys

Posted by sysubrceq0 on (August 30, 2012, 18:06 GMT)

If SM thinks a aging Great batsmen and aging above average bowler will help to win the series, then he is more pathetic than i thought.To win a test match we need bowlers who can take 20 wickets consistently, last series we could have won it when SA was around 120/6 in their second innings until injured kallis came and hit a century and made the test draw. If we cannot take those 4 tailenders in SA fast pitches then what is the use having great batsman scoring centuries? We need good bowlers for away trips than depend heavily on batting.

Posted by keecha on (August 30, 2012, 17:27 GMT)

For those who want Sehwag to bat in the middle order, I would like to remind that an important reason for India's climb to No.1 Test team by 2010 was Sehwag as opener. He would give the Indian bowlers that extra time to purchase the 20 wickets by scoring fast. Pretty much like Mathey Hayden or Aus. If he has to bat in the middle, then some one who is as good as him in strike rate shold open with Gambhir. I can already hear voices saying U.Chand ;)

Posted by MunafAhmed811 on (August 30, 2012, 16:51 GMT)

I repeat . BCCI needs to develop existing bowling talent however weak it may be (its not as weak as thought). BCCI has enough money to do this easily. Hire Pollock or Mcgrath or maybe Wasim (he wont accept is what i feel). Then identify 10 fastest bowlers in country who have basic talent required for swinging the ball. Eg Awana, Yadav , Varun, Abu Nechim,Harshal Patel, Sreesanth,Ishant,etc etc. Prepare different tracks to practice and make each one bowl/train 20 over each daily for next 2 months polishing their talent. Then let them play selective Ranji matches and test matches with ODI's only. Maybe let them get county stints for a couple of months. Pay them annual salary so well so they dont need to play IPL or any kind of T20s. For T20s bowlers like Dinda , Balaji, RP ,Vinay should be ok to play for India where variations not speed is required. Besides in T20 it hardly matters who bowls. By my method we will have good bowling talented trained bowlers who can win us matches abroad.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

1.Rahane 2. Gambhir 3. Pujara 4. Sachin 5. Sehawag 6. Kohli 7. Saha 8.Ashwin 9.Praveen 10. Zaheer 11. Umeash, rest Yuvraj, Varun Aron, Asok Dinda, Naman Ojha/Kartick

Posted by Future_Indian_cricket on (August 30, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

We for sure need the experience of the senior trio - Sachin, Bhajji and Zak at SA. You really cant leave these giants. Bhajji should be ready by then but he wd be a back up for Ashwin and Ojha.

Posted by Future_Indian_cricket on (August 30, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

As an ardent follower of test cricket, I would love Indian team to do well on all pitches and conditions. I would always back the entire team when playing on home pitches but would not go with DHONI'S request to prepare turners. We the fans and the entire nation is always here to support the team and do have full faith in your talent rather than depending on the pitches. I would love to have sportive tracks - even grass filled bouncy pitches similar to that of Aus, Eng, NZ and SA pitches here and there in INDIA. Lets at least have few (may be 20-30% of the pitches) fast paced and the others - turners. This will help the team to cope up to the conditions overseas. After all it is the overseas victories that would serve the team's confidence and the quality more. On that note my team for SA series will be - A.Rahane, G. Gambhir, C. Pujara, S. Tendulkar, V. Kohli, V. Sehwag, M. Dhoni, R. Ashwin, Sreesanth/Varun, Umesh/Ishant, Zak. Bhajji, Rohit, Saha, Mukund will be the back ups.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (August 30, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

Tendulkar and Zaheer were there against England and Australia. How was their performance there? LOL! Preserve Tendulkar! Even Ashwin and Irfan Pathan can better than him.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 16:29 GMT)

Probable Indian Test line-up for South Africa 2013: 1. Gautam Gambhir 2. Virender Sehwag 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Virat Kohli 6. Rohit Sharma 7. M.S. Dhoni 8. Ravichandran Ashwin 9. S. Sreesanth 10. Umesh Yadav 11. Ishant Sharma 12. Harbhajan Singh

Posted by phoenixsteve on (August 30, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

At Lords, Father Time must be smiling to himself! The Indian's don't seem to realise that he is the real boss of life and cricket! Tendulkar has passed his sell by date and if the Indian board had any sense they would give him a firm nudge? Of course financially it might not be the thing to do.... so the poor old guy will have to fail and fail and fail...... Pity, once upon a time he was quite a good player and probably India's best?

Posted by Dashamlau on (August 30, 2012, 15:58 GMT)

@guitarboy, hear, hear! .

Posted by ovzdatta151 on (August 30, 2012, 15:49 GMT)

Its too early to set up a team for SA. Because you never know a new talent may crop from domestic season and we all will ask for his inclusion in the test team. And we can;t forget Dhoni's comment in Australia. Is he really interested to lead the test side to SA? Because after severe humiliation in England and Australia, he will be bit apprehensive to lead this side. If anything goes wrong the people will ask for his head. Sachin and Zaheer are no doubt are great players. But Sachin reflexes is not as fast as it was before. Now days he is getting bowled out more often then before. I am more concern about bowling department we need a genuine fast swing bowler. I hope some new good bowlers join the team and shine the Indian flag.

Posted by Dashgar on (August 30, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

Tendulkar is not going to save India in SA. They need to bring a younger energetic team who can play attacking (field well) and put extended pressure on South Africa. My team would be Rahane, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Sharma, Dhawan, Dhoni, Ashwin, Dinda, Aaron, Yadav. I'm not an expert so personnel might be slightly different but that sort of blend of players will give India the best chance.

Posted by 777aditya on (August 30, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

system overload - delete Sachin and Zaheer, cannot save!

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (August 30, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

Sachin is not going to RETIRE soon so please do not waste your time. As far as new comers is concerned they need to prove themselves and cement their place in team like Sachin did it when he was 17.

Posted by Cricket_Geek on (August 30, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

Our bowling resources are the most concerning right now. We need quality seamers & quality spinners. Grooming a quality leg spinner is important. Piyush Chawla has been tried & failed. We need to move on & also develop a second line just in case one of the premier spinners gets injured. Same with pace as well. We need to move on from our dependance on Zaheer. Umesh Yadav has all the qualities of a good fast bowler & he needs to be nurtured & worked on to improve his consistency. Same with Sreesanth as well. He maybe inconsistent but capable of taking wickets. He did have a decent SA series last time but was dropped soon after. Praveen Kumar/Irfan Pathan both can be good support seamers & if conditions suit can be matchwinners as well. But they have been shunted around especially Praveen. We seem to have lost the Ishant Sharma of 3 yrs ago. If he develops variety in his bowling, he could be a handful.Continous support from a good bowling coach is might critical for these young quicks

Posted by mucheemaann on (August 30, 2012, 15:13 GMT)

No matter how well we preserve Zaheer, he will breakdown during the first over of the first test of an overseas series. It is time to select bowlers for TESTS-only; keep them as TEST-only bowlers; and pay them handsomely so they don't mess with their fitness playing T20.

Our bowlers would have bowled at least 8 times to ENG/AUS batsmen last year - they could not dislodge English / Australian batsmen. That tells us that our current crop of bowlers are not the ones who can win test matches. Why do selectors persist with the same set of bowlers? What makes these guys tick with just the selectors, though? Are they expecting that these bowlers will acquire 'world class credentials' by playing TEST matches in home conditions?

Finally, if Zaheer and Tendulkar have lot to offer- do it as support staff?

What is up with SA 2013? Would India stop playing TEST cricket after that? If we dont win there, would the world come to an end? If so, why did it not come to an end after AUS/ENG tours?

Posted by mucheemaann on (August 30, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

(Indian) cricket fans may well be grateful to Tendulkar; but the selectors should not be so grateful. If this is the time to plan for the future as everyone agrees - then the selectors should ask Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dhoni (as Dhoni does not want to play test cricket after 2012) to step down and find replacements. They may suck initially, but at least we know that the team trying to get better and not live in the past.

Posted by Cricket_Geek on (August 30, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

Focus for Indian cricket should be away tours to SA, England & Australia where the batsmen are tested. Home series are not a problem. Rather than have Raina in the middle order, Sehwag can move down the order to either before or after Kohli. Anyway he will be facing the 2nd new ball around that time. Time to prepare a solid opener like Rahane for sterner tests. Gambhir does have his shortcomings against the rising ball but I guess with his experience he deserves another chance. He was a player who was out of form in England & also got injured. Australia he was just coming back from injury. Rather than have Sehwag open & put immense pressure on the middle order. This will be a better option for the next 2 to 3 yrs till Sehwag retires. Raina & Rohit Sharma can be on the reserves. Anyway Tendulkar's retirement is not too far off. Also Zaheer needs to be managed. Like we had batsmen who played only test cricket time has come to have 2 sets of bowlers for tests & shorter formats

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Gambhir, Sehwag, Pujara, Sachin, Virat, Dhoni, Wridhiman Saha, Umesh, Ishant, Zaheer, Ashwin, Ojha, Rohit/Raina, Varun Aaron, Rahane

Posted by india_rulzz on (August 30, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

My Test Cricket Team for India in South Africa 2013.

Gambhir Rahane Pujara Tendulkar Sehwag Kohli Dhoni (C) (WK) Harbhajan Zaheer Umesh Ishant / Irfan

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

sachin and zaheer shoulf have been rested for ongoing nzl series but resting them for england and australia series makes no sense because england and australia are the best test teams in the world and they have whitewashed india.So if sachin and zaheer were rested for nzl tests then it gives opportunity for youngster like rahane to play test cricket in home conditions and with some other pace bowler.

Posted by rivernile on (August 30, 2012, 14:28 GMT)

@ Nampally - I agree, the wording may be off, but the idea of "preserving" Tendulkar and Zaheer is not a bad idea. I think that all countries do this. Pace bowling takes a huge toll on the body. And if you notice, SA are resting (or "preserving" if you like) Kallis during the ODI's. That is not to say tat Kallis can't handle the load and should thus retire. I think that given the current state of NZ cricket, India should be able to beat them with the XI team, and not necessarily the national side.

Posted by SakthiDGr8 on (August 30, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

Rainna is such a worst selection for Test Match. Instead Rohit or Badrinath can be given a prolonged chances. 1.Rahane, 2.Gambhir, 3.Pujara, 4.Sachin, 5.Kohli, 6.Badrinath/rohit/shewag,7.Karthik, 8.ohja, 9.Zaheer, 10.U YadaV, 11.Ishant Sharma. Kohli or Gambhir as Captain for Test

Posted by zero_knowledge on (August 30, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

@gizza, my dear friend all i wanted to indicate was how it would create a circular argument to keep on "preserving" a particular player.. can't you read between the lines..

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (August 30, 2012, 14:13 GMT)

i just want to ask one question why they are saying for preservence of sachin & zaheer for sa tour . the sa tour will start in nov 2013 . after then we have to play in nz in jan 2014 , then in england in june 2014 then in australia in december 2014 . suppose if zaheer & sachin remains fit for sa tour & some how india manage to save some pride in sa tour then what will happen in england or australia later ? who will take wkts there ? who will make runs there ? THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE THAT INSTEAD OF PRESERVING ZAHEER & SACHIN WE NEED TO GROOM YOUNG FAST BOWLERS & YOUNG BATSMEN FOR ALL OVERSEAS TOURS NOT ONLY FOR SA TOUR . INDIAN CRICKET IS ALWAYS UNPREDICTABLE . REMEMBER HOW A YOUNG INDIAN TEAM WON T20 WC 2007 , WON NATWEST SERIES IN 2002 .

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

Team line uo for South Africa 2013 :1.Rehane 2.Gambhir 3. Pujara 4 Tendulkar 5. Kohli 6.Kaif 7.Dhoni 8.Zaheer 9.Umesh/Irfan 10. Ashwin 11. Harbajan/Ojha. further Rohit Sharma and Ishant sharma

Posted by Sehwagism on (August 30, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

I don't understand why the team management wants to continue with Raina. Raina is not a test material. He doesn't belong even in 15 member side and here he is getting selected in 11. It's high time to give Rahane a chance. either include him in place of Raina or open with rahane and bring sehwag down.

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 30, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

SACHIN is a legend and we all respect him. I feel he is got to an age where now he should hand over to a youngster. Likely replacement should be Chand if he does well on the A-tour to NZ. As said by @Nampally Gambhir needs to make changes in his game as openner. Openners stand was a factor for our failure in Oz/ENg besides the pace bowling.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

BCCI has to think about bowling department may be give chance to sree and RP singh,both are good swing bowler,,,and we know sree he is good outswing bowler ,and SA has lots of right hander they have to think about it what ever batting line up you have in u can make 500-600 in SA only bowler will help you in win the match

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 13:51 GMT)

RandyOz commented to give Unmukt Chand. Just because Chand won the U-19 World Cup, you can't just make him jump the queue that too directly to test cricket.

If a country wants to move forward, the best way is to identify format(s) in which each player can excel. India should adopt this. There give Zaheer Khan and even Umesh Yadav and maybe Ishant Sharma and some others focussed for test cricket. This will improve their consistency and also have their chances of injury lessened.

Posted by aurorion on (August 30, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

The anti-Sachin comments don't make any sense. Are they claiming that there are 11 better players that Tendulkar in India? Definitely not. Until there are 11 players better than Tendulkar competing for places on the team, there is no reason why he should retire or be dropped. It is the job of the selectors to select the best team available, and Tendulkar is still AT LEAST among the 11 best cricketers in India. And his form has been overall good in the past 2-3 years. His batting average in tests since the beginning of 2010 is 58.58. And his average in AWAY tests since 2010 is 57.03. Definitely not bad numbers at all. I think Tendulkar is still the best batsman in India and he definitely deserves to be in the team for as long as he wants, of course as long as he is performing well enough. And his recent records show that he is performing much better than just "well enough"!

Posted by MorD on (August 30, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

Rahane Gambhir Pujara Sachin Kohli Dhoni Irfan Bhajji Ashwin Zaheer Umesh Varun Aaron Rahul Sharma Unmukt Chand Sreeshant

Posted by CSKftw on (August 30, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

As for the test match between India and NZ being boring as compared to Eng vs SA, both Eng and SA are very similar teams in that they both bat deep and are reliant on their fast bowlers to get most of the wickets and they played on conditions that favored their style of play (except the first match in which Eng were thoroughly outclassed). It's common sense that you get more interesting matches when you pit two similar teams against each other in conditions that favor their style of play than when you pit two different types of teams in conditions that favor one team, such as Eng vs Pak, India vs Eng/Aus and NZ vs Ind. The only exception to this is when you have a very strong team like the Aus/WI teams of the past who can win on any surface, in such cases playing in conditions heavily favoring the weaker team produces more interesting matches.

Posted by Nampally on (August 30, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

I am surprised at the statement "preserve Tendulkar & Zaheer --". These are sportsmen who need to be fit - Not jam or pickles which are preserved.A sportsman needs to be physically fit not bloated or unfit as ZAK & Sachin were for the English tour. If they are not capable of keeping up their strength then they should retire & let others more fit to do the job. The entire concept of "Preserving" sounds attrocious to say the least coming from Sanjay & Sambit!. Fitness, Form & performance should be used as the main criteria for selection. Neither Sehwag nor Gambhir, if they play like their show in Australia, deserve to be in the squad let alone open the innings. In fact I would try new youngsters who have the right technique such as U.Chand for one of those spots. Chand played the fast bowlers well on bouncy Aussie pitches. Gambhir must stop flashing at the balls outside the off stump if he wants the opening spot. Both Gambhir & Sehwag are better playing lower down.Bowling is a big ??.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

Raina is such a wastage in Tests. He is not a test match material... He is good in T20 and fine in ODI.

Posted by BellCurve on (August 30, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

After the SA tour, Sachin's average would be 3 runs lower, and Zaheer's 3 runs higher. If they continue playing their averages would eventually converge, in 2017, at 42.67. Who's to blame? The Idians fans. The BCCI merely gives them what they want to pay for.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Retaining Sachin for the SouthAfrican Tour is very important, otherwise the team would look like a bunch of paper tigers without the 3 big guns (sachin, dravid, laxman). My Team would be Gambhir, Sehwag, Pujara, Sachin, Virat, Dhoni, Irfan, Zaheer, Umesh, Ashwin/Ohja, Sreesanth/Varun aaron. Let Rohit and Badri complete the list of 15.

Posted by ajeet_211 on (August 30, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

My Team for SA 1.Virendar Sehwag 2.Gautam Gambhir 3.Cheteshwar Pujara 4.Sachin Tendulkar 5>Virat Kohli 6>M.S.Dhoni 7>R.Ashwin 8>Zaheer Khan 9>Umesh Yadav 10>Ishant Sharma 11>Pragyan ojha 12>Varun Aron 13>Ajinkhya Rahane 14>Irfan Pathan 15>S.Sreesanth 16>wridhman Saha

Posted by CSKftw on (August 30, 2012, 12:48 GMT)

As an Indian fan it's so embarrassing to hear these guys suggesting NZ aren't good enough to play Test Cricket. Although India is a much stronger team than NZ overall, NZ at least managed to win a test match in Australia few months ago and draw the series unlike our team which was struggling to last 5 days, let alone draw or win. Our team was outclassed in Aus and Eng just as badly as NZ were in India few days ago, you have to use the same yardstick for everyone. To be honest Aus and SA have been the only teams that have been able to compete on all types of conditions on a consistent basis, their standard of cricket has always been way higher than the rest, all other teams have been overly dependent on conditions.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

2013 is too far still my team for that series will be...Rahane,Gambhir,Pujara,Tendulkar,Kohli,Sehwag,Dhoni,Ashwin,Praveen,Zaheer,Yadav...BackUps--Dinda,Ishant,Parthiv,Badrinath,Mukund

Posted by pratit on (August 30, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

1.Rahane, 2.Gambhir, 3.Pujara, 4.Sachin, 5.Kohli,6.Up for grabs,7.Karthik, 8.Ashwin, 9.Zaheer, 10.Ishant, 11.Umesh

Posted by VipinGangwar on (August 30, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

Sachin is not helping the team anymore.. Either he should be consulted for his future (If he is in sight of breaking any record) or he should be dropped (like Australia dropped Steve Waugh).. He has not performed in 8 away tests still he is not leaving the team.. so its better the selectors should drop him..

Posted by guitarboy on (August 30, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

Is indian cricket so bankrupt of batting talent that selecting tendulkar for a tour of south africa is their main priority?Lets face it tendulkar is a very selfish cricketer,he should have followed his compariots and leave the game gracefully.But then again,he has always been on records and swelling his batting average.Tendulkar is on an ego trip and more than likely will get shown up in south africa.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

"I'm convinced that Gambhir and Sehwag cannot be your opening combination in South Africa. The problem with playing them in the home season is that they'll get runs and you'll feel you have an in-form opening pair that you'll take to South Africa. It's a huge gamble."- Can't agree more.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

Why Sanjay Manjrekar is still depending on Sachin and Zaheer? He is thinking backwards. India have a lot players who can perform on any type of pitches world over. Only these players require confidence and support. That should give by the selectors and BCCI which is not happening in Indian cricket for so long time now to many talented cricketers except one. The only player enjoying overwhelming support from BCCI and selectors is Sachin Tendulkar, whether he performs or not!!! U-19 Cricketers proved that they are only team who beat Australians in Australia in a World Cup final. Many cricketers can play straight way into the senior team but do our selectors have guts in giving them a chance. Sachin has to retire now. He has played long years and selectors were forced to retire all his colleagues during this process. Our selection policy has to change. Badrinath selected for First test against NZ, but has warm the bench. Badri is a good test player and have good temperament.

Posted by VipinGangwar on (August 30, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

My 11 for SA tour: - U Chand - G Gambhir - C Pujara - V Sehwag - V Kohli - M S Dhoni (C) - I Pathan-Z Khan - U Yadav - A Dinda - H Singh - (12th man) - R Ashwin (R) - V Aron / I Sharma (R) - Manoj Tiwary

Posted by Cric-Indian on (August 30, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

Preserve Sachin and Zaheer for World cup 2015.! What do u say? If we preserve them for SA tour and they fail (fair chances for Zaheer), we 'l say that they were lacking in practices. Zaheer is now not a wicket taker bowler. in the first test, even Umesh Yadav was able to take 2 wickets! I think this the time for both Sachin and Zaheer to introspect.

Posted by Great_Sport_Games on (August 30, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

This is ridiculous, when are our Indian management going to breath in youth into this squad? We all love to see players like Sachin into our team but he'll be about 40 by then. Players like Tiwary, Iqbal, Chamd etc are talented and energetic enough to be used now.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

my team for sa was-1.sehwag2.rehane/chand3.pujara4.kohli5.gambhir/rohit6.yuvaraj7.dhoni(c)8.irfan9.ashwin/bhajji10.zaheer11.aroon/dinda

Posted by dicky_boy on (August 30, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

@randy oz can't say that I agree with you always, but you are spot on , but if you want more evidence please check out Asia cup India vs Bangladesh , it's not just ability that he is lacking

Posted by ARDjango on (August 30, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

Ponting is still going... Retirement of Ponting would be a good comparison in terms of timeline and talent ...not Dravid, Laxman or Strauss.

Posted by The_other_side on (August 30, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

If plans are to preserve Sachin... I think I will think of calling back Sunil Gavaskar. In my opinion if Sachin does not score centuries he has to go.. He has not scored 100 for twelve tests.

Posted by S.Jagernath on (August 30, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

Why is it that Ravindra Jadeja can't make the A team yet his first class stats are quite impressive?India seriously need an allrounder in the test team that can bat at #6.Jadeja seems to be the only candidate!

Posted by The_other_side on (August 30, 2012, 11:59 GMT)

If plans are to preserve Sachin... I think I will think of calling back Sunil Gavaskar. In my opinion if Sachin does not score centuries he has to go.. He has not scored 100 for twelve tests.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

Playing 11: 1. A Rahane, 2. G Gambhir, 3. C Pujara, 4. V Kohli, 5. V Sehwag, 6. M S Dhoni (WK/C), 7. I Pathan, 8. R Ashwin, 9. Z Khan, 10. I Sharma, 11. U Yadav.

Reserve: 12. Aoran, 13. Ojha, 14. Smit Patel (WK-Resrv), 15. U Chand, 16. Badrinath

Posted by Gizza on (August 30, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

@zero_knowledge, a lot of the players you mentioned retiring after 40 actually retired from international cricket before the age of 40 but continued to play first-class cricket. Very big difference. Sachin can continue in the Ranji Trophy and IPL for another 4-5 years. But playing away from India at his age is a different kettle of fish.

Posted by S.Jagernath on (August 30, 2012, 11:56 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar must play the two home series against England & Australia,he may then retire.I don't think touring South Africa at 40 is a good idea.Tendulkar has the right to play this home season as his recent performances have been respectable but for him to keep going might be a bit difficult,especially with India constantly playing test series all over the world.Zaheer Khan's trip to South Africa will depend on his performances against England & Australia. The main XI to tour S.A should be: Gautam Gambhir,Abhinav Mukund,Cheteshwar Pujara,Ajinkya Rahane,Virat Kohli,Manoj Tiwary,Wriddhiman Saha,Ravichandran Ashwin,Ashok Dinda,Zaheer Khan,Umesh Yadav

Posted by Shubham18 on (August 30, 2012, 11:56 GMT)

Indian Team XI for the South Africa Tour 2013 would be (in batting order) : Rahane/Unmukt, Gambhir, Pujara, Virat, Sachin, Badrinath, W Saha, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Umesh, Ishant. Extras : Rohit(12th Man), Ashwin, Sreesanth, Mukund.

1)With the current fitness issues Sehwag is likely to be not in the team. 2)Dhoni has given signs of retiring from Test cricket around 2013 so he may not be in the Test team or he may retire from Test Cricket after the tour of South Africa. 3)Sachin will definately play in the South Africa tour of 2013 but may not be part of the ODI team. 4) Harbhajan may comeback after being out of team for a year with new confidence and rejuvenated passion to cement his place as the seniormost spinner in the team. 5) Ishant after the injury may return as a whole of a new bowler and may be India's X-Factor against South Africa with his bouncy, pace balls. If he can do good against Australia and England at home, he may discover a new confidence in himself.

Posted by sweetspot on (August 30, 2012, 11:52 GMT)

This whole nonsense about short pitched stuff is overcooked against India. Any team is susceptible to get knocked around in swinging conditions, and India did not do too badly in SA the last time they toured. How many times did Raina get out to short pitched bowling in England? Swann got him almost each time! For the 2013 tour, it should be a good infusion of young blood, no matter what the outcome. Sachin cannot be sticking around till the dental care companies care to sponsor him. Badrinath has not got his due either, so time to prepare with the new Test team.

Posted by S4CHIN_IS_GOD on (August 30, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

I think everyone here thinks they are cricket critics and know cricket very well. If your body is fit anf your batting is great. Tendulkar not just cricketer, hes an example to all young and old guys. If you stay fit and mentally focused, you can stay young as long as you can. I am sorry no one talks about Dhoni. He shouldn't be leading Indian Test cricket team. India was best without him in the team and went to no.1 without him. he is a weak link in test team.

Posted by kv_aneesh on (August 30, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

@RandyOZ Please list the Indian players who have better average than Sachin in 4th innings. Note: VVS Laxman retired last week.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

gautam gambhir,ajinkya rahane,virendra sehwag,sachin tendulkar,virat kohli,yuvraj singh,cheteshwar pujara,mahendra singh dhoni,r ashwin,harbhajan singh,zaheer khan,ishant sharma,umesh yadav,varon arun,shreesanth,irfan pathan

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

my lineup would be rahane,gauti,pujara,tendy,sehwag,kohli,msd,bajji,khan,yadav,ishanth

and the reserves are raina,ashwin,saha,aaron,badrinath

Posted by Cluedin on (August 30, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

I would say that it would be much better to get the young batsmen who are likely to replace Tendulkar be sent out with A tours if any to get used to playing on the hard, bouncy or seaming pitches. In fact, BCCI may actually encourage a few youg batsmen to go and play with the local first class teams as overseas players for the 3 day and 4 day matches. I am sure they have enough clout to do so. Same goes for the openers. If they act now itself, then India would have batsmen primed to deliver when the tours start.

Posted by Farce-Follower on (August 30, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

SRT plays SA, so it would be Shastri who would tell he is obliged to play WC '15. Then Gavaskar would say, that would oblige him to play against Pakistan. Then Manjrekar again would say that makes it mandatory to play England. So on and so forth. Jai ho, India.

Posted by Venkat_Super_11 on (August 30, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Sanjay, you must be kidding. Preserve Sachin for SA series??? For what? Didn't we see his wonderful performance in England and Australia? We'll be better off grooming Rahane, Pujara and Kohli from now on so that they will do better jobs in SA. We have already seen Rahane's performance in England. So he must be a better choice to open with Gambhir while Pujara can play on No:3 followed by Kohli or Sehwag on 4th or 5th. When will we stop all this?

Posted by MunafAhmed811 on (August 30, 2012, 11:34 GMT)

Its tricky one but proper planning can get us there. Bowling is weak so take a calcualted gamble. Preserve Yadav ,Varoon , Awana alongwith Zak and even if they dont have experience , train them at NCA becasue they do have speed and thats what counts atleast in SA. Employ Pollock to train them for a month. Prepare tracks expected there and make them bowl 20 overs daily on it. Thats the only chance..throw intrained fast bowlers who atleast look like taking wickets. Bowlers like PK, Dinda,Vinay are good only in seaming conditions. As for batting Gambhir ,Rahane, Pujara , Kohli , Chand ( yes Chand give him a debut by fire like Tendulkar had) , Dhoni need to practice atleast 15 days on green fast tracks where net bowlers should bowl from 19 yards to simulate actual speeds and bounce that they will face in SA.Do not forget Gary Kirsten is coach of SA and he knows these players weakness well. So we need to surpise them with unexpected new raw bowlers and batters he has not actually seen.

Posted by CSKftw on (August 30, 2012, 11:32 GMT)

I think the reason why Sachin hasn't retired yet is because Jacques Kallis could easily get more test hundreds than him since he's going to be around until the next world cup and is not that far behind him. Having said that he definitely was one the better Indian batsmen in the Australia tour, he may not have got many runs but he looked far more comfortable than the other Indian batsmen who looked like fish out of water.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

Sachin should be retired now and young ones should be given more chances else India team future would be in danger. young blok making 50-60 is better than Sachin making a century in 4-5 innings. Take lessons from other players across the world.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

Indian selection should consider this is gonna be very important , zaheer and sachin will play very key role who have played a lot under these condition, Indian players should spend lot of time before playing their usual shots specially ball going out side off just leave it for god, one coming in one should know how to play, I still remember use to watch Dravid game when he played for first time in south africa, Didn,t make hundreds and double but got his basics right for his upcoming games

Murali Vijay,Gambhir,Pujara,kohli,sehwag,sachin,msd,ashwin,zaheer Ishant,Umesh yadav,v aaron,Ojha, Irfan,R uthappa s raina

Posted by Min2_cric on (August 30, 2012, 11:08 GMT)

well said ivorvaz...

Posted by Rajeshj on (August 30, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

I don't see a point in continuing with Sachin for long till SA tour... Look, he made plenty of runs because of the cushion given by Viru, Dravid and Laxman around him.. two of them have retired and Viru is past his best... I don't think Sachin can make plenty of runs any more.. he should have retired long ago and its because of such commentators the noise for his retirement is muted out... Whether the team struggles or not, it is important that the board puts a team without Viru, Sachin and Harbhajan... grow up guys...

Posted by spot_on on (August 30, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

Awww Manjrekar... Stop demoralizing the Indian cricket spirit.. will ya!! Sachin himself would wanna see the young guns go blazing right in front of his eyes at South Africa.. Let him take over from Fletcher as the coach of India.. I'd rather reckon, people like you stop from blogging and throwing up opinions to save the tiger ,moose and duck-billed platypus... I want you guys to be thrown out of media. We want young chaps in the team.. Like sachins and dravids and gangulys... we want players who can debut in their teens!!!! Fearless and yet matured.. Saving veterans aint gonna help a thing in this tiny lil world my good man.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 10:46 GMT)

If India really want to the win the test series in SA..Train a Bolwler who can get Kallis & Amla out early..otherwise they are gaints who will score anything on the board...

Posted by wablo55 on (August 30, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

Sheesh. I love Sachin as much as the next guy, but can't the old boy take a hint from esteemed former colleagues like Dravid, and contemporaries like Andrew Strauss? He looked sorely out of touch against New Zealand (notwithstanding his wonderfully exuberant new hairdo) being bowled out comprehensively. Now - whilst not wanting to denigrate the Kiwis - it has to be said that they were weak opposition and unaccustomed to playing in India. If Sachin struggles against that kind of bowling and when playing at home - maybe the old boy should think about hanging up the spikes. When Dravid was bowled out twice (I think) in Australia he was big enough to take that as a cue to realise that his ability wasn't what it once was. I pray that Sachin has the same kind of self awareness - and retires early enough to maintain the level of dignity that is befitting to one of the finest ever servants of Indian cricket.

Posted by Jamil-ahmed on (August 30, 2012, 10:40 GMT)

I think the selectors have to give chance to young players and sehwag should play down the order and rahane to open whith gambhir and Indian cricket don't have any bowlers so they have to think about that if there's no zaheer what will u do after? That's big concern

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 10:40 GMT)

Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, SRT, Sehwag, kohli, MSD,Ashwin, Zaheer, Shreesanth, Umesh Yadav

Wridhiman Shah, Harbhajan, Rohit Sharma, Pathan

Posted by zan_69 on (August 30, 2012, 10:07 GMT)

I think its the time for sachin and zaheer to retire from the game of cricket :) their time is over now.let the youngsters to have a go.

Posted by KK5619 on (August 30, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Rahane/sehwag gauti pujara srt sehwag/rohit kohli dhoni ashwin khan umesh aaron.

Posted by Bloodprince on (August 30, 2012, 10:01 GMT)

My !16 member squad for tour to SA is:

1. Gautam Gambhir. 2. Virender Sehwag 3. Cheteswar Pujara. 4. Sachin Tendulkar. 5. Virat Kohli. 6. MSD. 7. Yuvraj Singh. 8. R. Ashwin. 9. Irfan Pathan. 10. Zaheer Khan. 11. Umesh Yadav. 12. Praveen Kumar. 13. Harbhajan Singh. 14. Pragyan Ojha. 15. Ajiynkya Rahane. 16. S.Badrinath.(Suresh Raina)

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 9:56 GMT)

If we want to plan for the South Africa 2013 let me tell you my lineup. 1.Rehane 2.Gambhir 3. Pujara 4 Tendulkar 5. Kohli 6.Kaif/Veeru 7.Dhoni 8.Zaheer 9.Umesh/Irfan 10. Ashwin 11. Harbajan/Ojha. and further 15th player is Rohit. As Raina is suitable for ODI/T20, and I want to tell you about Kaif as Anil Kumble is also advising the selectors to give chance to Kaif in Test Team. He has a good experience and one of the finest fielder in India.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 9:50 GMT)

My 11 for SA tour:

- A Rahane - G Gambhir - C Pujara - S Tendulkar - V Kohli - M S Dhoni (C) - I Pathan - Z Khan - U Yadav - A Dinda - H Singh - V Sehwag (12th man) - R Ashwin (R) - V Aron / I Sharma (R) - U Chand

Posted by Dhanvanth on (August 30, 2012, 9:46 GMT)

Indian cricket is seriously under threat in foreign countries...Sachin is not gonna be of any help for the young blokes! my XI for SA tour(in order): rahane, sehwag, pujara, sachin, kohli, gambhir, dhoni, ashwin, zaheer, ishant, aoran, rohit(12th), badrinath(13), ojha(14), yadav(15)!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by RandyOZ on (August 30, 2012, 9:40 GMT)

Rest Statchin forever, he is not performing (never has ni a 4th innings) and is only holding back youngs guns like Unmukt Chand!

Posted by mayurnandan on (August 30, 2012, 9:39 GMT)

After the humiliation in Eng & Aus, the tour of SA will be a point to prove to the cricketing world that we are not chokers on foreign pitches. Possible XI for SA will be :Rahane, Gambhir(Opening), Pujara, Sachin, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni(3,4,5,6,7th positions resp.), Harbhajan, Umesh Yadav, Zaheer, Varun Aaron/Ishant Sharma. (Harbhajan Singh for his experience,if he performs well on domestic circuit,otherwiswe P.Ojha).

Posted by pdsina on (August 30, 2012, 9:27 GMT)

Gauti,Pujara,virat,tendya,Viru,Unmukt Chand ,Mahi,Irfan,Ash,ZaK,Umesh. If they are fit my best 11.

Posted by IvorVaz on (August 30, 2012, 9:23 GMT)

Sambit and Sanjay are right on the money when they say that Gambhir needs a new partner in the Tests for South Africa 2013 (Sehwag could reinvent himself in the middle order, something he admits himself). Problem is the cupboard is fairly bare. Vijay or Mukund could get another look in. Drafting in Uthappa as second wicketkeeper will add to the batting muscle. Chand must get a look keeping the future in mind. My team for South Africa 2013: Three opening batters: Rahane, Gambhir, Mukund/Vijay; Five middle order bats: Pujara, Kohli, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Tiwary/Chand; Two wicketkeepers: MSD, Uthappa, Four pacers: Zaheer, Yadav, Aaron, Ishant/Dinda, Two spinners: Ashwin, Ojha.

Posted by Jacobchikku on (August 30, 2012, 9:23 GMT)

1.A Rahane 2. G Gambir 3. C Pujara 4. S Tendulkar 5. V Kohili 6. V Shewag 7. M Dhoni 8. R Aswin 9. Z Khan 10. U Yadav 11. S Sreesanth

Posted by sheldor17 on (August 30, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

My squad for SA : gambir,rahane,pujara,sachin,kohli,viru,dhoni,aswin,parvinder awana,umesh yadav,zaheer khan,varun arron,dinesh karthick,ojha,shami ahmmed.

Posted by zero_knowledge on (August 30, 2012, 9:11 GMT)

after SA 13 there will be a tour to ENG or AUS in 2 yrs so again save SRT and Zak for that because they are irreplaceable and all that.. Zak being a bowler sometime will quit when he can't handle the workload(he is already so fragile and injury-prone) but SRT being a batsman and also as there will be a tour to ENG AUS or SA once in two yrs we can keep on preserving him as his experience will be valuable to counter the conditions and he is an inspiration to the whole team..also his love for the game has never been as much as it is now and still he is enjoying his game..also that way he can break the records of WG Grace for being the oldest cricketer and might be even Jack Hobbs' 197/199 FC Centuries..

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

I do not believe is Sehwag batting down the order. He should open and give quick start..that is must..India lost middle order players so should get kohli,pujara,raina,rohit to play...rohit better option than raina in SA unless he improves..new ball to go to umesh and ishant..zak as backup and ashwin as spinner..get bhajji in team as he bowled well in SA last time..

Posted by skcvr on (August 30, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

1) Ajinkya Rahane 2) Gautam Gambhir 3) Cheteshwar Pujara 4) Sachin Tendulkar 5) Virendar Sehwag 6) Suresh Raina (B.cos we need a left-handed batsmen in the middle order too!!) 7) W. Saha 8) Z. Khan 9) Umesh Yadav 10) Pragyan Ojha 11) Varun Aaron/Ishant Sharma/ Is someone better can be found. Irfan Pathan and R. Ashwin and Rohit Sharma can be extra in the squad.

Posted by s_srk on (August 30, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

we have to preserve the senior cricketers for the upcoming series.Next world cup sachin & zaheer will not play, so that they have to play the test matches and they will have to take the rest for ODI series, they have to give the chances for young Indian cricketers.....srk

Posted by 100_rabh on (August 30, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

After last season's England and Australia debacles, i couldn't understand why no one was blaming our openers. Just because we had an aging middle order, all the ills should not have been attributed to them. Gauti and Viru were equally, or may be more to be blamed. Clearly Gauti's priority lies somewhere else these days, Viru is past his prime. My X1 for SA tour next year 1. Abhinav Mukund 2. Rahane 3, Pujara 4. Sachin 5. Virat 6. Rohit 7. MSD 8. Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10. Sreeshanth 11. Umesh

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:57 GMT)

I feel there's just too much importance being given to the SA series in 2013. It will not be easy to win against Eng and Aus in the home series coming up. And also don't agree that Tendulkar is obliged to go to SA if he plays the home season. Lets have a debutant at coming in for the SA series. We will know what he is made of. Anyway somebody like Rahane or Badrinath are not novices that they cannot handle an overseas test debut.

Posted by prakash_ajp on (August 30, 2012, 8:53 GMT)

If it's VVS and we are talking about Australia tour, then preserving and all such make sense. But I don't think SRT can really do anything. Instead, I think it's time to send some youngsters and let them learn, even if it comes at the cost of India's defeat. And we do have some promising talent (no, not Rohit Sharma) available for the test slots.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:50 GMT)

Why this obsession with retaining SRT & Zak? Our U19 team is showing a lot of promise and retaining the two oldies who are now only mere passengers in the team at the expense of inducting exciting youngsters, would be extremely retrograde a step. It's time to tell SRT and Zak to get the hell out of the Indian team.

Posted by MaverickSix on (August 30, 2012, 8:45 GMT)

My Test Line-Up for the tour of South Africa Will be: 1. Sehwag/Rahane 2. Gambhir 3.Pujara 4.tendulkar 5.Kohli 6.Rahane/Sehwag 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin 9.Ishant/Dinda 10.Zaheer 11.Umesh

Other members in The team will be: Wriddhiman(wk),Manoj Tiwary,Harbhajan,Irfan

Posted by KunzMan on (August 30, 2012, 8:43 GMT)

@FoollyFedUp: Hahaha... ROFLLLLL

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:39 GMT)

I can only laugh at some of the comments when they have mention 3-4 names from the U19 team in our test 15. I know these guys are pretty talented and I personallly know U.Chand as he hails from Delhi[Modern Barakhamba Road School]. But U19 is a different level. Infact Ranji is way ahead of U19 level. So,first let these guys have a feel of Ranji for 2 years before they start thinking about test cricket.

For me,the way forward is obviously Viru in the middle order as we need an opener who has a proper technique to see off the new ball abroad. In India,like SM said,Viru will always get runs. So for me looking at the future and especially abroad. My 11 would be- 1-Gauti,2-Rahane,3-Pujara,4-Sachin[Atleast till 2014],5-Virat,6-Sehwag,7-Dhoni,8-Ashwin,9-Zak,10-Umesh,11-Ishant/Ojha[Depending on the conditions].

Reservers- 12-Badrinath/Raina[Can't have both],13-Aaron/P.Kumar,14-Bhajji/Chawla,15-Rohit Sharma[Yes,he's failed and I'm his critic as well but he has a future,make no mistakes].

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

1.gambhir2.rahane3.pujara4.sachin5.kohli6.sehwag7.dhoni8.ashwin9.irfan10.umesh11.zaheer 12.ishant13.abhinav mukund(reserve opener)14.harbhajan15.varun aaron/pragyan ojha... harbhajan,tendulkar,zaheer brings experience in each battin,spin and fast bowling respectively...its important the youngster have their word with their seniors when it is tough situations going to be faced by them in south africa

Posted by lemonstealer on (August 30, 2012, 8:33 GMT)

@perplexed,tendulkar got two hundreds on india's last tour to south africa,the one at cape town stood out as one of his best ever considering the bowling attack and the conditions he was up against.i think indian batting will sort itself out provided the right people are selected,whats the point of playing a suresh raina?he will score some runs here and say the right things and come a cropper overseas.rahane should be groomed,i dont care at what position but at least play him in the 11,for me he is a certainty along with pujara and kohli.coming to the bowling,yet again it comes down to picking the right personnel for the job,i cannot believe some one like a PANKAJ SINGH has been over looked so long and vinay kumar's got endless opportunities,UNBELIEVABLE!pankaj singh will create havoc overseas,i believe he is that good,the other guy who has impressed me over the last couple of years is dhawal kulkarni,his pace is up,he is swinging the ball,i hope these two are seriously considered soon

Posted by jokerbala on (August 30, 2012, 8:27 GMT)

I don't think they will make much of a difference. As if Sachin and Zaheer could even win a test against Australia. We are sitting ducks and we will be handed out big defeats in South Africa which now has a better pace attack than last time with the addition of Philander. Indian batsmen- Brace yourselves and just hope for an Injury to Amla and Steyn

Posted by Hraig on (August 30, 2012, 8:23 GMT)

@perplexed: yes for sure if you are a south african fan you shud know how often sachin has scored against your team in south africa. he has scored 7 centuries against africa and out that 5 is in south africa......................................

Posted by KunzMan on (August 30, 2012, 8:21 GMT)

My XI for SA: Gavaskar, SRT, VVS, Dravid, Dada, Prabhakar, More, Kapil, Kumble, Srinath, Raju. Unbeatable XI. Experience of SG and youth of SRT!

Posted by Vasi-Koosi on (August 30, 2012, 8:20 GMT)

If SRT & Zack need to be preserved for them to be in the team for SA then use them now and find new folks. You have got to have continuity; if someone like SRT & Zack is going to pick which rubbers to play, then we have a problem. They need to be shown the door

Posted by ramli on (August 30, 2012, 8:19 GMT)

Going to SA without SRT will be a blunder ... agreed ... but ... it is not the selectors only to make the planning ... it is SRT himself ... for that he has to announce his retirement from ODIs ... keep himself fresh for test challenge abraod ... not by picking and choosing to play meaningless ODIs ...

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:17 GMT)

Another whitewash will take place. Indians can't handle fast bowlers or being able to score runs on non-flat tracks. That's why, Indians lost so badly against Australia. lol. Ordinary and overrated.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 8:15 GMT)

Yea, SA pacers will be terrified of bowling against the likes of sho/rty Sachin and co right, lol. All the Indian greats toured Australia but they were shown their true worth by James, Watson etc. India is a weak team which has terrible records overseas. The batsman's' are only good for batting on the flat pitches of Delhi.

Posted by FoollyFedUp on (August 30, 2012, 8:15 GMT)

Unmukt Chand will make his debut in the SA tour of 2028, because every one in the Indian team will decide to retire on their own terms - i.e when they get arthritis maybe.

Posted by kingcobra85 on (August 30, 2012, 8:12 GMT)

Lets save them for 2019 world cup so father and son can play together for India

Posted by Dev_Sachinfan on (August 30, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

My eleven would be, 1) Sehwag 2) Gambhir 3) Pujara 4) SRT 5) Virat 6) Yuvraj(If he gets his fitness)/Tiwary 7) Dhoni 8) Pathan 9) Ashwin/Ojha 10) Zakeer 11) Umesh...

Posted by ansram on (August 30, 2012, 8:09 GMT)

Please leave out Sachin for SA. We need to start building a young team - let Kohli, Rahane, Pujara, Tiwary, Rohit et al take up the challenge. After Sachin's successive failures in England and Australia, it does not appear a good option to invest long term in him. If we are to loose overseas, let us loose with a young team, they will at least learn.

Let Sachin be part of the team to mentor the promising youngsters ( have the idea of having mentors in a touring team), but no point in playing a 40 year grandpa as it does not help the team if India is looking to build a team for future.

Posted by mrcricket300 on (August 30, 2012, 8:06 GMT)

Lol Sachin can't even score runs against NewZealand. He will have no chance against South Africa.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:52 GMT)

Gambhir and Rahane should open followed by Pujara, Tendulkar,Kohili,Sehwag in the middle followed by Dhoni and then Ashwin,Zaheer,Umesh and Ishant in the starting eleven. my bench will be Manoj , Raina / Dinesh Karthick ( as second wk since it is overseas tour to s.a), Ojha, Aaron

Posted by KunzMan on (August 30, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

Why just SA 2013? Save them all for 2019 WC I say. So much dearth of talent. Nothing at bench level. Unmukt Chand, Baba Aparajith and Smit Patel are so young. They are embryonic. Their career should start after extensive first class cricket of about 10 years. Did they form a partnership at 16 and created a school record?

Posted by nkoch on (August 30, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

@tambolisamir, funny. Baba, Unmukt, harmeet in Test team? Remember, only 3 2000 and 2008 WC winning U19 team members have made big so far .. Kaif, Yuvi and Kohli, 2 skip Kaif and it's only 2. Long way to go for 2012 young guns.They all have potential but are very raw and product of T20 world. Hope their technique survives to play test cricket

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

On Current form: Rahane, Gambhir, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Sehwag,Dhoni, Ashwin, Praveen, Zaheer, Umesh. Badri (Reserve opener cum Middle order), R. Jadeja ( 3rd spinner cum No.06 or 7), Saha (backup keeper), Ohja ( 2nd spinner), Ishant & Shami Ahmed.

Personally, overseas form of Dhoni & Gambhir is also worrying factor. Since, we don't have backup options we talk form of Sehwag.

Badri regular No.03, he bat higher up too. Also openers in domestic circuit have not great too. Rest pick themselves in batting. Ohja picks himself.

Jadeja may suprise you. I still believe he is decent bat in test matches. He has done better with bat when he has played more numbers of overs. His temperament is good too. Look at his high scores and timing of his scores.

Praveen still is our best bowler overseas after Zaheer and can bowl long spells. Shami has pace and heard can clock 140 kmph regularly. With Aaron injury problems, i go with Shami.

Posted by nishant1809 on (August 30, 2012, 7:37 GMT)

Its pretty clear team India needs Tendulkar and Zaheer in their lineup if they want to have a realistic chance of beating SA in SA. Dont forget SA is the number 1 team, and on current form they are way better than what England and Australia were when they thrashed India. No point making sehwag open when he does not wants to open, and its clear with his recent form that he's not the guy for you to open the innings. Its high time to get in Rahane and make him play Test cricket. No point playing Raina and Badri as well in test matches. A player like Raina will never succeed in SA, and Badri is too old to start his career now. Get in Tiwary and Rohit, coz they are the ones who are most likely to take India to the pinnacle of test rankings 1. Gambhir 2. Rahane 3. Pujara 4. Tendulkar 5. Kohli 6. Tiwary/Sharma 7. Dhoni 8. Harbhajan/Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10. Umesh 11. Ishant/Aaron

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:35 GMT)

Why r u bringing in age in here..ya Sachin is 39...u have forgotten Imran Khan was 40 when he retired...and there r examples were people who made there debut at age of 40...like James Southerton,Miran Bakhsh,Don Blackie,Bert Ironmonger...Rustomji Jamshedji..and who retired at the age of 50 and above...Wilfred Rhodes,WG Grace,Bert Ironmonger,George Gunn....they all retired at 50..and more..

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:34 GMT)

When you comment about Zaheer You say no more ODI's for him but how silently You missed that question for Sachin, i dont see any sense in Sachin playing ODI's moreover Sachin picking ODI's at will unsettles the Team Combination, Management needs to understand and convey the message to Sachin ...!!

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:33 GMT)

I still want Viru to open up in SA tour but move down to the middle order after the tour. couldnt think of Rahane yet as he has plenty to catch up opening in the Test matches and that depends on the opportunities @ home tests till SA tour. It should be mandated to both 1.Viru and 2.Gambhir to hone up their skills to face the Steyn/Morkel heat clearly. 3.Pujara (again to be honed properly) followed by 4.Virat (moving sachin to 5th), 5.Sachin (to give Virat his position/place to gain exp for future and play to defend the fall of wickets), 6.Manoj/Raina/Irfan,7. Dhoni, 8.Ashwin,9.Zaheer,10.Umesh, 11.Ishant/Varun (again to be put to test and training @ home tests. (Bench can comprise the reserve players along with Sandeep sharma, Unmukt chand, Aparajit, Harmeet (of U-19).

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (August 30, 2012, 7:32 GMT)

no matter how much indian fans write on cricinfo , the truth is selectors will not learn anything . they will keep selecting zaheer in meaningless odis . sehwag would never be droped into middle order . rahane , badrinath , dinda will keep warming benches .they will keep selecting ishant sharma .

Posted by PRASK on (August 30, 2012, 7:26 GMT)

To all who are asking for Sachin to retire, may be u forgot the last tour when Sachin had to negate the volcanic Styne for 7 overs, had it not been him, India would have lost 4-5 wickets in that period, but sachin denied him any which led for a victory there.

And yes this is challenge to all of you bring all Indian batsmen in any series, Sachin will be in TOP 3 every time, If u dont belive, pick up the stats from the tours of eng and Aus.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (August 30, 2012, 7:25 GMT)

@PERPLEXED . I THINK THIS SAME SACHIN MADE 2 CENTURIES AGAINST YOUR BOWLERS JUST 1.5 YEAR AGO . ALSO HE AVERAGES 45 IN SA WITH 5 CENTURIES . DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UPTO ?

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 30, 2012, 7:22 GMT)

@ perplexed I think u forgot how many runs Sachin scored last time in SA

Posted by the_blue_android on (August 30, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

@ Perplexed - You sound like an English or an Aussie supporter who doesn't make any sense. Do you even follow test cricket? The last time Sachin was there in SA, he scored 2 hundreds against Steyn n co in a 3 test series. It will be better to check the facts before posting absolute garbage.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

I find it strange these guys suggesting New Zealand aren't up to test cricket level, after the absolutely embarrassing drubbing India took at the hands of the English last year. Dirt track spin players, they'll get destroyed in SA if the pitches are remotely green.

Posted by PRASK on (August 30, 2012, 7:16 GMT)

To all who are calling for SRT' head: guys dont you have got enough space for new comers now? Dont judge them with series against Black caps, let the eng- aus arive, then we will know how these so called very talanted faces contribute...every one here is planning for future and what about current then, till when you keep preparing for future? Those losses in eng and aus had maximum to do with our mediocre bowling, if u rem those series, initially india was in the series but it was bowlers who failed us and later batsmen also started failing because of their over conscious approach..we have seen how these eng and Aus batsmen fare in front of good attacks, so don't put all the blames on batsmen...

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 30, 2012, 7:08 GMT)

few more centuries in SA come on Sachin once more

Posted by AzyS on (August 30, 2012, 7:05 GMT)

its time to give rahane and manoj tiwary a long run coz bcci have already wasted great talents like wasim jaffer, badrinath, irfan pathan, yusuf pathan, saurabh tiwary.. players have been dropeed after getting just one or 2 matches like jaydev unadkat, saurabh tiwary, abhishek nayar, and many more.. there were many players in the a team in west indies who were dropped with no reason at all.. sadly its not cricket nymore..

Posted by sanzen on (August 30, 2012, 7:05 GMT)

Where are HARSHA BHOGLE's comments in this?

Posted by bailpalgopi on (August 30, 2012, 7:01 GMT)

Rahane, Gambhir, Pujara, Tendulkar, Virat, Veeru, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Yadav, Aron

Posted by googletalk on (August 30, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

Tendulkar should avoid playing meaningless IPL and preserve his energy for more important international fixture.

Posted by Perplexed on (August 30, 2012, 6:47 GMT)

As a South African supporter I completely agree - keep Sachin in the side. His record in SA is not very good and now that he's old his reaction time is not soo good anymore - which is essential on the green, seaming pithces in SA - and the SA fast bowlers will be jostling to get to bowl to him!

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

In the Hyderabad Test, spinners took 18 out of 20 wickets for India. It was the 20th time Indian spinners took 18 or more wickets in a Test. Three of those were in overseas Tests. Name the three instances - the instances are Birmingham 1967, Auckland 1975-76 & Melbourne 1977-78.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:45 GMT)

SM: Why this unwanted diplomacy, when you comment on Bhajji. Why don't you be bold and say the truth. That Bhajji's days are over.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

Preserve Tendulakr and Zaheer, not just for the South African Tour, but for posterity; to help us remember them with love & respect for ever. Rather than allowing them to become laughing stock. As a by-product, India can blood two more youngsters, and develop them, rather than letting the young achievers go waste, because of these sentimental blockades on their path.

Posted by GVNR on (August 30, 2012, 6:42 GMT)

have badrinath in, take Sachino out. it is time freshies get a chance ..

Posted by Emancipator007 on (August 30, 2012, 6:40 GMT)

All pundits are missing 1 key factor. India is going COLD to SA without any Tests practice or long-format matches as last Test match played will be against OZ in March'13.Shocking planning.I feel that BCCI should prepone SL's 2015 tour to Oct'13 (OZ touring for an ODI series then) or even slot competitive Pak for a 3 Test series.Does not matter if the Tests are played in India (play them at Bangalore,Mohali,Nagpur which have truer bounce and carry), you need Test match rhythm to play tougher Test series, not T20s or ODIs. You can' t just play T20 Champions League and go to SA.My team:Sehwag,Gambhir,Rahane,Kohli,Pujara,SRT,Rohit/Tiwary (whoever is in PRIME form just bfore tour),Dhoni, Aaron,Yadav,Zaheer,Bhaji (u need his combativeness),Ashwin,I.Pathan,Dinda/Sreesanth,Saha (gutsy innings in Tests against SA/OZ).

Posted by Riderstorm on (August 30, 2012, 6:40 GMT)

Two points stuck out from the conversation to me. 1. Lack of upcoming bowlers (U19 WC couldn't throwup one hopeful either) 2. Sehwag coming down the order. It's been 2 years that sehwag has been struggling at the top with injuries and form (which is very erratic last few months). It's time to come out of the past and try a new opening pair.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

It's very important trying to plan for South Africa 2013 and beyond, but one must not forget to make sure we win our home tests as well - that means picking the best team for Indian conditions. South Africa 2013 is still at least 10 test matches away, so there is time to think about it. It's premature to say that Sehwag should go into the middle order - he's a huge asset for us in Indian conditions as an opener and that's where he should stay.

Serious planning for the overseas tours should start in March 2013, against Australia - if we win the first two-three tests out of 4, we can experiment in a couple of games. If there's a test series against Sri Lanka in July 2013, then it's worth experimenting then as well.

Posted by tambolisamir on (August 30, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

1. Gambhir, 2. Rahane, 3.Pujara, 4.Tendulkar, 5.Viru, 6.Virat, 7.MSD, 8.irfan, 9.Ashwin, 10.Umesh, 11.ZAK (on Bench- 12.Baba Aparajit, 13.Unmukt Chand, 14.Manoj, 15.Harmeet Singh, 16.Aaron.)

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:24 GMT)

Test team: gambhir,sehwag,pujara,tendulkar,kohli,raina,dhoni,ashwin,zaheer,harbhajan,ishant shrama,sreeshanth,badrinath..

ODI team :(ICC CT 2013) Tendulkar,sehwag,gambhir,kohli,yuvraj,dhoni,raina,irfan,zaheer,ashwin,harbhajan,ashok dinda,umesh yadav,parthiv patel.

Posted by US_Indian on (August 30, 2012, 6:23 GMT)

My team: Mukund, Rahane, Gambhir-openers. Pujara, Kohli, Kaif, Badri, Rayudu, Suryakumar Yadav, Manish Pandey-middle order in the same order 3,4,5 and depending on if they want to go with 6 batsman then they can use anyone of the rest. Dhoni, Karthick-WK Ashwin, Ojha, Rahul spinners Umesh, Irfan, "Shreeshant & ZAK (maybe), Aaron, Shami Ahmed, mohsin syed" any three out of this five, only two sure shots should be Irfan and Umesh. This list add upto 18 but definitely selectors can chop any two. Now guys will be surprised to see Sachin, Rohit, Raina, Sehwag, Manoj Tiwari, Unmukt or Aparajitha, Harmeet and Harbhajan missing. Sachin is not the same old, apart from experience and holding a place he is not doing anything productive , Sanjay missed the point, if you analyse his past 2-3 years maybe atleast 20 odd tests you can see his reflexes are gone down, he was his pale shadow in england, aus, and even the first test against NZ. Sehwag, Bhaji are done, rest have time to prove thier point.

Posted by Phoenix_Vodka on (August 30, 2012, 6:21 GMT)

My desired Indian Test line-up for the tour of South Africa in 2013 is 1. A.Rahane 2. G.Gambhir 3. C.Pujara 4. S.Tendulkar 5. V.Kohli 6.V.Sehwag/Y.Singh/ M.Tiwary 7. M.S.Dhoni 8.I. Pathan 9.R. Aswin 10. Z.Khan 11. U.Yadav 12.P.Kumar

I sincerely feel Sehwag should bat down the order. Irfan must be given chance in test cricket, he deserv to be there, also we would get a solid all rounder lower down the order. Umesh if he bowls as fast as he's doing right now, with accuracy, he's an automatic pick. Ishant has not proven himself, leave aside some terrifying spells (against Ricky Pointing). It's time that Tiwary must be given chance, he has proven on every given occasion which the board has given to him unlike Rohit who has wasted every given oppurtunity. Rahane at top & Pujara @ 3 are someone to look out & they must be tested in home season. No point taking them directly & trying them out there. SRT would not be available forever, Kohli can take his position & Tiwary at 5 an ideal future.

Posted by Emancipator007 on (August 30, 2012, 6:21 GMT)

All pundits are missing 1 key factor. India is going COLD to SA without any Tests practice or long-format matches as last Test match played will be against OZ in March'13.Shocking planning.I feel that BCCI should prepone SL's 2015 tour to Oct'13 (OZ touring for an ODI series then) or even slot competitive Pak for a 3 Test series.Does not matter if the Tests are played in India (play them at Bangalor,Mohali,Nagpur which have truer bounce and carry), you need Test match rhythm to play tougher Test series, not T20s or ODIs. You can' t just play T20 Champions League and go to SA.My team:Sehwag,Gambhir,Rahane,Kohli,Pujara,SRT,Rohit/Tiwary (whoever is in PRIME form just bfore tour),Dhoni, Aaron,Yadav,Zaheer,Bhaji (u need his combativeness),Ashwin,I.Pathan,Dinda,Saha (gutsy innings in Tests against SA/OZ).

Posted by crick_sucks on (August 30, 2012, 6:17 GMT)

I am perplexed with the blame on selectors for every thing that goes wrong. Blame selectors for allowing Zak to play in all formats? why isn't the player sensible enough to make his own decisions. The selectors will always try to choose the best from what is available. Players must make conscious decisons to improve their effectiveness and prolong their career in the format that suits them must. At least there is something to learn from SRT in this respect.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 6:14 GMT)

Squad for South Africa 2013: MS Dhoni (capt), Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli, Sachin Tendulkar, A Rahane, Yuvraj Singh, Wriddhiman Saha, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth, Umesh Yadav, Varun Aaron, R Ashwin/Pragyan Ojha.

Batting order: Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni, Harbhajan/Ashwin, Zaheer, Ishant, Yadav

Posted by Edassery on (August 30, 2012, 6:06 GMT)

You gotta be kidding me Mr. Manjrekkar? You are the one who was dying for Tendulkar's blood sometime ago and now playing to the sentiments of general public. It's a great opportunity for Tendulkar to retire now after the New Zealand series or in the worst case by December after playing two of the 4 tests against England at home. This gives the youngsters an opportunity to play test matches at big venues like Kolkotaand prepare them for SA tour. Let them fail once or twice but Tendulkar has to take cues from what Strauss, Rahul Dravid and Laxman has done and retire now gracefully.

As for Zaheer, well he may be required as we still don't have a test quality pace bowler.

Posted by cricket_wins on (August 30, 2012, 6:01 GMT)

I hope ESPNCricinfo publishes this comment.

My personal opinion on Tendulkar going to the SA tour is one on which I sincerely beg to differ with Sanjay Manjrekar. I believe that 10 tests at home is a good platform, well organized and laid out by the fixtures, for him to contemplate retiring - at least from one or more formats. At a stage where he has nothing left to prove, I feel some youngsters who get a shot in the playing XI (Pujara, Badri, Rahane, etc) this early in their career in a challenging environment like SA and that too when SA is No.1 - would reap rich dividends in grooming them for the future. It is invaluable experience they would gain. For how long do we call an Indian XI as "best possible" with Sachin still in it? There should come a time when we plan ahead - and we have to admit and be prepared, that senior legends would retire close on the heels of each other (due to their age being more or less the same).

Posted by Siva_Cric on (August 30, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

My test line up for the south african tour: 1) Gambhir 2) Rahane 3) Pujara 4) Sachin 5) Sehwag 6) Kohli 7) Dhoni 8) Ashwin 9) Irfan pathan 10) Zaheer 11) Umesh Yadav Reserves - 12) Badrinath 13) Saha (reserve keeper)14) Ojha 15) Ishant sharma & 16) Munaf patel. This team should be able to put up a goof fight.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

Test line up in SA - Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Sehwag, Dhoni, Zaheer Khan, Ojha, U Yadav, P Kumar

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:51 GMT)

1. Gautam Gambhir 2. Ajinkya Rahane 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Virat Kohli 6. Virender Sehwag 7. MS Dhoni 8. R. Ashwin/Harpreet Singh 9. Pragyan Ojha 10. Umesh Yadav 11. Varun Aaron/Sandeep Sharma

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

Rahane Gambhir Pujara Sachin Kohli Rohit Sharma Dhoni R Ashwin Ishant Zaheer Umesh Yadav

Reserves Sahwag, Varun aroon, Raina, Ojha,Praveen Kumar,

Posted by Chinmay486 on (August 30, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

Add Wriddhiman Saha as the 17th member to my squad

Posted by Chinmay486 on (August 30, 2012, 5:44 GMT)

Hi there, my line up for the South Africa's tour of 13 would be as follows:

1) Virender Sehwag 2) Gautam Gambhir 3) Cheteshwar Pujara 4) Sachin Tendulkar 5) Virat Kohli 6) MS Dhoni 7) Irfan Pathan 8) R Ashwin 9) Zaheer Khan 10) Umesh Yadav 11) Ishant Sharma

Other members of the touring party:

12) Pragyan Ojha 13) Varun Aaron 14) Ajinkya Rahane 15) Unmukt Chand 16) Harbhajan Singh

Posted by sdessdee on (August 30, 2012, 5:44 GMT)

As test cricketer we should be able to play on any pithces and condition. I jsut glanced through the records and found that england last won a series in 1987/88 in india and austrailia last won in 2003/04 and prior to that they had won in 1982/83 and south africa had won last a series in india in 1999. so in a nutshell it is not easy for any country to come and win overseas. drawing itself is an achievement. for india to do well overseas BCCI needs to carefully organize the itenary in such a way that we get to play atleast 2 macthes prior to the first test and in between test atleast one more match each when touring england, australia and southafrica. unless this is done it is very difficult to win test series in overseas condition. A team tours are also very mipotant. so BCCI needs to take a call on this issue otherwise it is very difficult for ijdia to do well overseas.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

my team will be 1-M.S. Dhoni 2-Virendra Shewag 3- Gautam Gambhir 4-Virat Kohli 5-Sachin Tendulkar 6-Cheteshwar Pujara 7-Ajinkya Rahane 8-Umesh Yadav 9-Irphan Pathan 10-Ishant Sharma 11-Zahir Khan 12-Ravichandran Ashwin. 13-Pragyan Ojha. 14-Rohit Sharma 15-Pravin Kumar 16-Wradhiman Saha.

reserve players(If Anyone Unfit) 1-Varun Aron 2-surash Raina. 3-Yuraj Singh.

Posted by kotareddy1990 on (August 30, 2012, 5:42 GMT)

gambir,shewag,pujara,kohli,badrinath,yuvraj,naman ojha(wk),irfan pathan,ashwin,zaheer,ojha.... i think this is going to be the good team for future tour to to south africa..

Posted by slowbouncer on (August 30, 2012, 5:42 GMT)

Protect Tendulkar??? Now he seems to be doing a good job of that himself, isn't he? He isn't playing enough. And he's making choices, irrespective of whether India needs him or not. And didn't Zaheer say that the more he bowled, the better he got? I believe cricket, like most things in life, is about rhythm, especially when you're getting on in years. As long as you don't overdo it. So there...

Posted by Geeva on (August 30, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

I think Tendulkar will retire after the Aus series.....SM called for laxman to retire???When Dravid and Laxman and Gangully toured SA in 1996/97 only Azhar and Tendulkar were experienced....When India next tour SA Ghambir Sehwag and Pujara all played test in SA....the point is there are 2 experienced batsman(Sehwag ghambir>tendulkar) wont make a difference!!SA should win 3-0....

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:39 GMT)

accordin 2 me the indian squad who wil go 2 south africa wil go lyk this: MS Dhoni,sehwag,gambhir,pujara,tendulkar,virat kohli,yuvraj singh,ajinkya rahane,suresh raina,zaheer khan,irfan pathan,umesh yadav,praveen kumar,r.ashwin,harbhajan singh n pragyan ojha

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

sm u dnt abt zaheer skill he will plaly 2015 world cup..............ok....zaheer is the best bowler of india.....he is capable of playing test as wel as one day cricket.........ok...dnt be hopelss..........

Posted by IAMGOD on (August 30, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

Openers : A Rahane, G Gambhir (c) Middle Order : C Pujara, S Tendulkar, V Kohli, M Tiwary, R Sharma, U Chand, V Sehwag (outside chance) Keeper : S Patel (Not sure MSD has the inclination to continue beyond revenge series') Spinners : R Ashwin, P Ojha Pacers : V Aaron, U Yadav, I Sharma, Z Khan, S Sreesanth, I Pathan

Posted by DINESHCC on (August 30, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

"Preserve Tendulkar and Zaheer for South Africa 2013": FOR WHAT?

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:30 GMT)

Chand,Gambhir,Pujara, tendulkar(or Rahane) ,Kholi , Sewag ,MS Dhoni(|||) , Ashwin or Ojha , Umesh Yadhav , Ishant Sharma, Sreeshanth or Zaheer ( if he is fit and available)

Posted by div09 on (August 30, 2012, 5:28 GMT)

1) Unmukt Chand 2) Ajinkya Rahane 3) Cheteshwar Pujara 4) Sachin Tendulkar 5) Virat Kohli 6) Virender Sehwag 7) Mahendra Singh Dhoni 8) Irfan Pathan 9) Ravichandran Ashwin 10) Zaheer Khan 11) Shantakumaran Sreesanth OR Umesh Yadav

Posted by vaidy on (August 30, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

My 14: G Gambhir (C), A Rahane, C Pujara, S Tendulkar, V Kohli (VC), V Sehwag/M Tiwary, S Badrinath/, M Dhoni/D Karthik, I Pathan, Z Khan, U Yadav, P Ojha, R Ashwin, A Dinda. Pathan will be the all rounder.

Water boys: U Chand, S Patel, B Aparajith, Harmeet Singh.

Posted by Farce-Follower on (August 30, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

Here we go again - a case being made for SRT to play until 2020 and beyond. There is absolutely no logic in this. Our youngsters win overseas, and we still maintain trust in SRT, who performed pathetically in England and Australia. Lineup for SA : Sehwag, Gambhir, Pujara, Badri, Kohli, Yuvraj, MSD, Zaheer, Umesh, Mithun, Ashwin.

Posted by april on (August 30, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

Openers: Gambhir, Smit Patel, Parthiv Patel,Rahane, Unmukt Chand, Baba Aparaijith. Middle Order: Sehwag, Virat Kohli, Cheteshwar Pujara, Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, MS Dhoni, Lower Order: Harbhajan Singh, R.Ashwin, P. Ojha, TailEnders: Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, Pravin Kumar, Umesh Yadav, Varun Aron, Munaf Patel, Irfan Pathan

Posted by shaileshij on (August 30, 2012, 5:23 GMT)

GG Shewag pujara tendu kholi rohit dhoni umesh praveen zak

Posted by AzyS on (August 30, 2012, 5:22 GMT)

1 - rahane,2 - gambhir,3 - pujara,4 - sachin,5 - sehwag,6 - virat,7 - raina\rohit sharma,8 - dhoni,9 - ashwin, 10 - zaheer, 11- umesh yadav, 12 - varun aaron\ashok dinda, 13 - ishant sharma\irfan pathan, 14 - harbhajan\ojha, 15 - yuvraj

Posted by Suganth.T on (August 30, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

My team for SA: 1.Gambhir 2.Rahane 3.Pujara 4.LITTLE Master 5.Kohli 6.Sehwag 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin 9.Zaheer 10.Ishant 11.Umesh 12.Badrinath/Raina 13.Reserved Keeper 14.Ojha 15.Sreesanth. Thank You.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:11 GMT)

My test line-up for SA: Rahane, Gambhir, Pujara, Sachin, Kohli, Sehwag, Dhoni, Zaheer, Ashwin, Umesh Yadav, Ishanth, V. Aaron, Ojha, Raina, I. Pathan

Posted by natasrik on (August 30, 2012, 5:09 GMT)

Viru is a kind of lottery, if want to step down from top order then just do it for all formats but to me if selected then nothing beyond opening. If Viru cannot score at the top then he is a waste in middle order.Let the specialist middle order batsman have a go, we just cannot be wasting their talent and their sheer determination to play for team india. The only time I may thing of bringing Viru to middle order will be when Sachin say goodbye and I really don't see that happening in near future although Sachin is playing with patience of many a cricket loving people w.r.t ODI. Zaheer probably will struggle to make it for 2013 SA tour. Until and unless he say goodbye to ODI'- which includes Champions trophy, IPL, Champion league, etc.

Posted by CarDroid on (August 30, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin, Ojha, Sreesanth, Zaheer, Yadav

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 30, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

What is with the saving for later tour? Then the same guys will come up and say wy pick and chose and not play full time! Or short of match practice talks will arise. They senior players know their body and let them do what they realize based on their body. The talks on away tours can begin when it is necessary and not immediately now. SA tour should be a top priority but not the ultimate destination. Have the younger guys in likes of Rahane, Sreesanth, RP, Irfan to prepare for that.. Not with Zak and Sachin..

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

Sehwag,Gambhir,Pujara,Sachin,Kohli,Rohit,Dhoni,Pathan,Harbhajan/Ashwin,Zaheer,Umesh..

1. I would prefer Rohit above Badrinath for the technique that he has. To survive in SA conditions, you got to be technically very sound. Sehwag is always a proven performer. 2. Among Harbhajan and Ashwin, I would like to go with harbhajan on his experience and his ability to contain runs in non spin friendly tracks.Ashwin has leaked runs in plenty in Auatralia. 3. Pathan, because of his current form and will also provide some batting depth in hostile conditions.

Posted by Cricket_Lover-SARU on (August 30, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

India's Test line-up for the tour of South Africa should look something like this. Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Sachin, Kohli, Sehwag, Dhoni, Ashwin/Harbhajan, Zaheer, Ishant, Umesh, Yuvraj 12th man!

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

viru, gauti, pujara, sachin, virat, badri, dhoni, ashwin, zak, yadav, irfan or dinda

Posted by AlexPalmer90 on (August 30, 2012, 5:04 GMT)

You gotta be kidding right. Sachin and other so called great batsman's travelled to England and Australia, where they were completely dominated. In fact, in Australia, Siddle, James, Waston made the Indian players look like amateurish. India has a poor record overseas and the batsman's are weak.

Posted by praveen4honestremark on (August 30, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

A team with out Sachin and Zaheer is what it should be.

Posted by Santhosh3186 on (August 30, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

SA 2013 RAHANE,GAUTAM,PUJARA,SACHIN,SHEWAG,KHOLI,DHONI,ASHWIN,ZAHEER,ISHANTH,UMESH.

Posted by roversgate on (August 30, 2012, 4:56 GMT)

South Africa 2013 Test line up should be (1) Gautam Gambhir (2) Ajinkya Rahane (3) Cheteshwar Pujara (4) Sachin Tendulkar (5) Virat Kohli (6) Virender Sehwag (7) Mahendra Singh Dhoni (8) Ravichandran Ashwin (9) Zaheer Khan (10) Ishant Sharma (11) Umesh Yadav. For the last 4 players in the squad, determine which batsmen does the best in the home season such as Manoj Tiwary, Subramaniam Badrinath, Suresh Raina and/or Rohit Sharma and pick either two of those or one and a spare wicketkeeper (Wriddhiman Saha). Then the last two spots can be chosen from the various fast bowlers like Awana, Balaji, both Kumars, etc. depending on form. Of course, all these players need to be given at least a 2-3 match run in home conditions before sending them there.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:56 GMT)

I would not put my money on India during the 2013 IND vs SA series. Yes the batting line-up (AR, GG, CP, SRT, VK,VS,MSD, RA, ZHK, UY, IS/SREESHANTH) seems to be reasonably good but to win test matches you will have pick 20 wickets spread across two innings and that is where the challenge for India lies.Ishant Sharma has played around about 45 test matches and yet he is still a work in progress. Irfan Pathan has lost the zip and if he can get it back it will be an added advantage for India. Sreesanth has so much potential but for injuries and antics. Going by the current scenario, I can't sound optimistic. Result could be 2-0 or even 3-0.

Posted by xylo on (August 30, 2012, 4:55 GMT)

Tendulkar should learn from Strauss. Strauss said that he did not want to be a free riding passenger in the team, and stepped down. He also realized that his form did not warrant selection, and retired. Sachin could be rested and played against Bangladesh if he does not retire; that is all that his form warrants.

Posted by ShankarAnand on (August 30, 2012, 4:45 GMT)

SA 2013: My XI: Rahane, Gambhir, Pujara, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin, Ishant, Zaheer, Umesh Yadav

Reserves: Badri, Rohit, Harbhajan, Sreesanth, Varun Aaron.

Posted by Delhivala on (August 30, 2012, 4:43 GMT)

My indian test line up will be like this 1. Gautam gambhir 2. Virender Sehwag 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Virat Kohli 6. Suresh Raina 7. MS Dhoni 8. Zaheer Khan 9. Umesh Yadav 10 R Ashwin 11. Pragyan Oja 12. Rahane 13. Rohit Sharma 14. Ishant sharma 15. Varun Arun 16 Saha

Posted by shivashakthi on (August 30, 2012, 4:43 GMT)

Continued... my playing eleven for South Africa series would be - Rahane/Gambhir/Pujara/Tendulkar/Kohli/I Pathan or Sehwag/W.Saha/Ashwin/Shreeshanth/Zaheer/Ishanth - u'll have Pathan n Ashwin as bowlers who can also bat,,, so u'll have 3 bowlers n 2 al-rounders...

Posted by AzyS on (August 30, 2012, 4:42 GMT)

1 - rahane,2 - gambhir,3 - pujara,4 - sachin,5 - sehwag,6 - virat,7 - raina\rohit sharma,8 - dhoni,9 - ashwin, 10 - zaheer, 11- umesh yadav, 12 - varun aaron\ashok dinda, 13 - ishant sharma\irfan pathan, 14 - harbhajan\ojha, 15 - yuvraj

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:40 GMT)

Gambhir, Rahane,Pujara, Kohli,Sehwag, Badri, Dhoni,Ashwin,Ojha, Yadav and Rookie fast bowle is my line up for 2nd test. For England Tendulkar can come back for Badri

Posted by NallaBaaba on (August 30, 2012, 4:39 GMT)

Rohit Sharma should get test chance.he has fc avg of 60. My xi for sa tour 1. Rahane 2. Gambhir 3. Pujara 4. SRt 5. Kohli 6. Rohit Sharma 7. Dhoni 8. Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10. Ishant / Aaron. Rohit is talented player. He needs some advice and he should be groomed into test level.. He did nt even get one test chance.

Posted by Chetan007 on (August 30, 2012, 4:37 GMT)

The combination for SA tour for India might be V.Shewag, G.Gambhir, C.Pujara, Sachin Tendulkar, V.Kohli, S.Bardinath, MS Dhoni, H.Singh, Ishant Sharma, U.Yadav, Zaheer Khan. Bench-Varun Aaron, W.Saha, R.Ashwin, P.Ojha, S.Raina

Posted by Natx on (August 30, 2012, 4:36 GMT)

Team for SA/2013 -

1- Abhinav Mukund 2- Gautam Gambhir 3- Cheteshwar Pujara 4- Virat Kholi (capt) 5- Sachin Tendulkar 6- Unmukht Chand/A. Rahane 7- Dhoni/Karthik (wc) 8- Irfan/Zaheer 9- Yadav/Ishant 10- Sreesanth/Sandeep Sharma 11- Ojha/B. Aparajith

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:33 GMT)

I am agreed with SB & SM that we have to save Tendulkar and Zaheer for South African Series in 2013, My Squad for that Series will be : Gambhir, Sehwag, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Umesh, Vaun Aaron, Ishant, Aprajith, Rahane, Unmukt Chand & Harbhajan Singh. Chand and Aprajith have done really well in under 19 world cup. They both are the future prospect for Indian Cricket. we need to trust on Ashwin abilities . My Test Line up will be : 1) Gambhir, 2) Rahane / Chand, 3) Pujara, 4) Tendulkar, 5) Kohli, 6) Sehwag / Yuvraj, 7) Dhoni, 8) Ashwin / Harbhajan, 9) Zaheer, 10) Umesh, 11) Varun Aaron.

Posted by sports99 on (August 30, 2012, 4:32 GMT)

I think it is better to send youngsters in place of Sachin and Zaheer. The worst case scenario is another 0-4 loss but at least youngsters get exposure. One good thing about current generation of youngsters they are not afraid of anything and have a lot of confidence.Iit's better look forward with youngsters.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:32 GMT)

Sehwag Gambhir Pujara Sachin Kohli Badrinath Dhoni Ashwin Zaheer Umesh Yadav Ishant

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:32 GMT)

Rahane,Gambhir,Pujara,Tendulkar,Kohli,Ashwin,Dhoni,Pathan,Zaheer,Ohja,Yadav ......this wil b d best .... considering the present form and capability ,,,

Posted by D.Sharma on (August 30, 2012, 4:24 GMT)

What they really meant was, "Preserve Tendulkar from further humiliation." Just retire already, even your own fans have started turning their backs on you.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:21 GMT)

1.rahane/murali vijay 2.gambhir/abhinav mukund 3.pujara 4.sachin 5.kohli/badrinath 6.tiwary/suryakumar yadav 7.MSD 8.irfan 9.aswin/ojha 10.parvinder awana/shami ahmed 11.umesh yadav/zaheer/ishant

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:20 GMT)

Indian Test XI for SA Tour: Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Sehwag/ Badrinath, Dhoni/ Saha, Aswhin, Z Khan, U Yadav, V Aaron/ P Awana/ A Dinda. Sehwag may do well at 6 where you need to score quick runs while batting with tail, but not so much when a test match has to be saved by batting out overs.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 4:19 GMT)

Gambhir Rahane Pujara Sachin Sehwag Kohli Dhoni Pathan Aswin Zaheer Sreesanth

Posted by Sunman81 on (August 30, 2012, 4:14 GMT)

Good analysis... I like your idea of saving Zaheer and Sachin for the test matches... But option of sending Sehwag to the middle order needs to be debated... If Yuvi is back to his best and finds a place in the test team, then there would be too many ppl for the middle order...

Posted by Arulan_Thomas on (August 30, 2012, 4:06 GMT)

Another whitewash :) Indian batsman's showed they lacked the courage and skill to take on fast bowlers in Australia.

Posted by deepak_sholapurkar on (August 30, 2012, 4:04 GMT)

Tendulkar and Dhoni will play all home test matches and retire by 2013 end SA Series. Dhoni already indicated that.

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