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Yuvraj Singh picked in India A squad

Amol Karhadkar

October 24, 2012

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Yuvraj Singh drives through the off side, Central Zone v North Zone, Duleep Trophy, semi-final, Hyderabad, 2nd day, October 15, 2012
Yuvraj Singh's double-century for North Zone spanned five and a half hours over two days © ESPNcricinfo Ltd
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Yuvraj Singh, who marked his return to first-class cricket with a double-century in the Duleep Trophy last week, has been included in the India A squad to play England in Mumbai from October 30.

In their first formal meeting since taking over as national selectors on October 1, Sandeep Patil and his colleagues decided not to pick a spinner in the 14-member squad to be led by Suresh Raina. The decision to not play a spinner is perhaps because the Indian team management does not want to give England exposure to what is likely to be their biggest challenge during the Test series.

India A

  • Suresh Raina (capt), Ambati Rayudu, M Vijay, Abhinav Mukund, Manoj Tiwary, Robin Bist, Ashok Menaria, Yuvraj Singh, Ajinkya Rahane, Wriddhiman Saha (wk), Irfan Pathan, Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar, Parvinder Awana

While Raina, Yuvraj, Ajinkya Rahane and Manoj Tiwary were included among nine specialist batsmen, Rohit was left out, an indication the Mumbai batsman could have to revive his chances by scoring big in the Ranji Trophy.

Rajasthan batsmen Robin Bist and Ashok Menaria were rewarded for their consistent performances. Bist, the highest run-getter in the previous Ranji Trophy season, had also toured West Indies in June as part of the A squad. Menaria was selected after an impressive outing during the A tour to New Zealand in September.

Tiwary, whose technique wasn't considered to be up to Test standards by the previous selection panel, the Tamil Nadu top-order pair of M Vijay and Abhinav Mukund, and Baroda batsman Ambati Rayudu completed the batting line-up. Initially, Delhi opener Shikhar Dhawan was included in the squad, but had to be withdrawn as the match clashes with his marriage. In his place, Rayudu was brought in.*

The bowling attack comprised seamers Irfan Pathan, Ashok Dinda, R Vinay Kumar and Parvinder Awana, who had broken down while bowling his first spell on the A tour of the Caribbean.

Yuvraj's selection was on expected lines after his 208 for North Zone against Central Zone. He had returned to competitive action after a nine-month break because of a rare germ-cell cancer during India's Twenty20 international against New Zealand and the World Twenty20 that followed in September and October.

And when he was named in the North Zone side for the Duleep Trophy semi-final, Yuvraj had admitted he wasn't sure how his body would cope with four-day cricket. He made most of the opportunity, though, and his 208 - against an attack that included Praveen Kumar, Bhuvneshvar Kumar and Murali Kartik - was only a run less than his highest in first-class score.

Should Yuvraj perform against Alastair Cook's team in the three-day fixture at the Cricket Club of India's Brabourne Stadium next week, he is likely to be a contender for the No. 6 slot in India's Test batting order.

After VVS Laxman's retirement ahead of the two-Test series against New Zealand in August, Suresh Raina was the preferred No. 6, ahead of Rohit, Rahane and Tiwary. However, Yuvraj will now have an opportunity to stake his claim.

*12:07pm October 24: This article has been updated after Ambati Rayudu replaced Shikhar Dhawan in the India A squad.

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Posted by Night-Watchman on (October 26, 2012, 22:59 GMT)

Not playing spinners against a visiting team appears to be a case of paranoia mixed with extreme pessimism. While these matches are no doubt warm-up matches for the visiting side, one needs to ask the reason for these matches from the home team perspective. Aren't these matches the best avenue for budding spinners to show their worth? Where else will you get to valuable experience of bowling against a world class side and players? Surely the selectors should not get into the floundering Indian test team tactics for the matches ahead and focus on their job of grooming young talent!

Posted by ListenToMe on (October 26, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

Rohit has never got a chance to prove his skills at the test level. While Raina has been included in the squad just means that the selectors are fools. Atleast give Rohit a chance in these kind of matches.

Posted by spiritwithin on (October 26, 2012, 9:29 GMT)

any reason y Vinay Kumar is selected when he 's no pace and no swing whereas Varun Aaron and other others like pankaj kapoor were overlooked,also murali vijay in the team is a big joke

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 26, 2012, 8:04 GMT)

The XI will be Vijay, Mukund, Rahane, Yuvi, Raina, Tiwary, Saha, Pathan, Vinay, Dinda, Awana and if they decide to field 12, then Bist or Rayudu can be in the race.

Posted by Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 26, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

@F:Performing well in domestic cricket doesnt automatically translate to results at International level.True Rohit may have an average of above 60 in domestic cricket,but time and again he has let himself down in the opportunities that he has got in ODI's and T 20's.He reminds me of Graeme Hick who was extraordinary in county cricket,but failed to live upto his reputation in Int'l cricket.The selection of Vinay Kumar baffles me 2.Aaron keeps finding himself out of the team.He is one of those guys who has lotsa talent but somehow the selectors turn the other way when it comes to him.Sehwag still plays the way he used 2 when he was 23.Gambhir pokes around the off stump as usual.I dont really find any1 in the thick of it,except for Kohli.I hope its not gonna be a whitewash at home!Even if is I reckon our Captain Cool is gonna come out and still smile saying the same old thing that India went out there to enjoy and not 2 win.Yawn,

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 23:44 GMT)

Pacelikefire_Samra, Rohit has a batting average above 60 in first class cricket, Yuvraj, & Raina well below 50. In the most recent 20-20 World Cup, he did very well. Yuvi, M Vijay & Raina are proven failures at test level. Raina was even failing at home against NZ. Rohit is yet to DEBUT in test cricket. And why would you leave Aaron and Pankaj Singh and keep proven failures like Vinay Kumar?

Posted by AzAb12754 on (October 25, 2012, 17:59 GMT)

India should play Ashwin and Harbhajan then England will collapse because the way they manhandled New Zealand last time was amazing. Make your tracks turn then this should be a one gone conclusion all the best!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by amitrathod on (October 25, 2012, 15:40 GMT)

Guys this can turn out be a reverse warmup match for Indian A team players, believe me the pitch would be a bouncy and green one. Indians going to turn every advantage to their favour in this India vs England series.

Mind games already started,Andy flower is very particular in this method and indians going to get into his head and destroy all his plans A/B/C...Z

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

I think bowling is very week. Too many batsmen. Part time spinners will not serve the purpose. Inclusion of Rayadu is a good decision. Rohit Sharma is out now. Bist and Maneria are in.... gud move. A gud performance from yuvraj and raina may grab the vacant position of great VVS LAXMAN (no. 6) in forthcoming test series. I didn't know the status of my fellow citizen Varun Aron. Yes he was suffering from a back problem. If he is fit, he should get many more chances. He is a spl.talent... Inclusion of KP is not a gud news to Indian bowlers.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

mr gopalkrishna pl tell kumble & co to pressurize to include ganesh satish in south zone team first. i think g satish has not signed with kumble

Posted by Pappu_bhai on (October 25, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

Who told we dont have spinners? We have Five->3 part timers and 2 regular spinners. 3.Part timers-->Yuvi,Tiwary and Raina. 2.Regular Spinners-->Vinay and Pathan.

Still these English Fans are complaining.Plz stop complaining.We have inserted our oneday squad main spinners in the team.Plz play against them before introducing to our test spinners.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

Suresh Raina has lot of potential to perform as middle order batsman. I would suggest that he should take a little more square stance to get a better leg side coverage and play the short balls. All my wishes to Suresh Raina as and his team.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

Thanks to the new Selection panel for the better selection and making Suresh Raina as the captain of the India A team. Raina has the capability to perform as captain and also can perform well in Test Match if he gets more chances. Making the assessment on the basis of England and Australia will not be a justice because there the openers could hardly give a good start and unfortunately he has to play almost as opener batsman. He is a middle order batsman and if the team has pretty decent start he can play a perfect role as middle order batsman.

Posted by HK_Sachin on (October 25, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

indian selectors have given you samit patel and panesar. what else is needed her? :-)

btw, what would england do in return, there are NO spinner there or fast bowlers - only trunlders : make the keepers bowl? ;-)

Jokes apart. no this is right there's no Class in the Indian set-up. Now with KP back, its going to be fun. We want the English team to be fully ready play the A spinners and then loose everything. Nothing inlcuding practice matches sessions should be lost! Come on Patil.

Posted by Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 25, 2012, 11:52 GMT)

I cant believe it.Rohit Sharma-the legend- has been left out and cricinfo hasnt yet written a condolence article.Maybe we are gonna see an article in the coming weeks as to why Rohit is the best batsman in the world right now.LOL.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

To England fans - if U make pitches that suit U, we also have every right to do it

Posted by srinideva on (October 25, 2012, 10:35 GMT)

@SanjivAwesome, Yeah you`re right..they should have selected you instead of them..Right???

Posted by TontonZolaMoukoko on (October 25, 2012, 10:35 GMT)

I'm genuinely surprised how many Indian's support this no spin measure, if the same happened in England then our cricket fans would be embarrassed by it. I'm glad we still take test cricket seriously enough to have 3 warm up games before the main series, hopefully Mumbai and the "TBA XI" will pick a balanced attack for us to play against. The thing is, England are poor against quality spin so whether or not the second choice spinners are included in the warm up games, if Ashwin and Ojha are any good then they should clean us up like Ajmal and Rehman did last year. If they don't though and we've had no practice against spin, how embarrassing will that be for the Indians....

Posted by srinideva on (October 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

@Feroz9700, I don`t understand the logic in your comment. How can a player like Irfan pathan comes into the national TEST team..he is not a proper batsman nor bowler. That is why you`re all calling him a All rounder. If you call this guy as a all rounder then what will you call J kalis,S watson....Don`t show your personal favourism in this..Irfan pathan is a toothless bowler when the ball loses its shine. May be he can bowl well in first 5 overs. Is it enough for you??? BTW, comaparing pathan to Raina is joke.Raina is the only player in indian team to score a century in all formats ogf the game...What on earth I pathan did...???

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (October 25, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

I think Yuvraj deserves at least another chance at Test level and have him swapped for Raina. We expect at least a 2-0 victory from India preferably 4-0 considering how dominant we are at home.

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (October 25, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

Raina and Vijay should not have been selected - these guys have failed to prove themselves in past Test. Sandeep Patil must be asleep on his new job.

Posted by SudharsanVM on (October 25, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

Smart selection. Prepare a green pitch for practice games . for test, prepare slow wickets.

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 25, 2012, 8:42 GMT)

@zenboomerang - Does Aussies have a spinner in thier domestic cricket? Haven't seen one since Shane Warne quit.

Posted by kristee on (October 25, 2012, 8:14 GMT)

Mozenrath Tabaqi, You miss my point. Quickies, perhaps 2nd rate, must have played in the game you mentioned. India have many aspiring spinners. If Strauss was playing there Raina is, here. The whole scenario points to the fact that India see spin mainly as short term ploy to struggle visiting teams rather than a force to rely on while touring abroad. How valid would be equating the respective home advantages in such a scenario?

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

Let's see if England can play spin of Yuvi and Raina.

Posted by sweetspot on (October 25, 2012, 6:28 GMT)

This match is not of great consequence, people. Not including a spinner, a specialist one, is not such a bad thing. Raina has a very decent captaincy record for those who have chosen to ignore the fact, and he's under the least pressure in this team. If he gets to play in the Tests, which is doubtful, it will be in place of Yuvi, both being left handers and capable of accelerating if needed.

Posted by thaikkathameed on (October 25, 2012, 6:03 GMT)

We have a fast who comes running in at 150 kph and bowls 100 kph, he can be considered as a spinner. Do not understand why these kind of players are taken in the team as though there are no fast bowlers at all in India.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

@kristee India faced Somerset's B team in 2011 and Strauss a Middlesex player was selected to 'regain some form'. Pitch was flat too , just like 2007. England are only getting it back.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:49 GMT)

mandeep shuld get chance 193 you should rember it agnist nz a

Posted by zenboomerang on (October 25, 2012, 5:39 GMT)

@satish619chandar :- "Raina and Yuvi are there as spinners"... Really hope that is a humorous comment... Neither would make an Aust A team as specialist spinners nor would they have the endurance to bowl long spells, though their batting is v.g. at FC level...

Posted by landl47 on (October 25, 2012, 5:05 GMT)

Wow- India are running scared already. Daren't let the England batsmen have a go at the Indian spinners, eh? Shows how little confidence the selectors have in the ability of their attack.

Posted by sandeepgla on (October 25, 2012, 5:00 GMT)

@ Prodipto Pa totally agree with u but dont u think that we should have included another spinner like Praveen Kumar, Unadkat or Munaf Patel.

Posted by Feroz9700 on (October 25, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

Good Selection, the new selection committee seems to be on the right track and giving some promising first class players a chance to prove there credentials. Yuvraj should be the captain instead of Raina and after scoring a double hundred in Duleep trophy should be an automatic choice to make it to the Indian team. Selectors have been very harsh on Irfan for the past 3 or 4 years and ruined his chances of playing in all the 3 formats. Irfan is a genuine all-rounder and adds more depth to the Indian lower order and can easily bat up the order as he probably has a better technique than Raina when handling short pitched bowling.

Posted by anver777 on (October 25, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

A real fighter !!!! another good knock in the 3day match against Eng will certainly seal his place for a Test berth !!!!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:14 GMT)

i think there is no fast bowlers. irfan, vinay are the specialist spinners for india. you missed one more spinner Munaf patel.

Posted by satish619chandar on (October 25, 2012, 3:17 GMT)

Raina and Yuvi are there as spinners :-)

Posted by aravabalaji on (October 25, 2012, 2:59 GMT)

It seems that the reporter himself is not aware of the tour program. England will also play against Mumbai 'A' where Rohit Sharma will surely have an outing to prove himself. Also, there is another warm-up match in Ahmedabad for which the team is yet to be announced. Probably, Badrinath or Pujara may lead the team where the likes of Rohit, Dinesh Karthik,Ishant may get to play.

Posted by kristee on (October 25, 2012, 1:16 GMT)

An A team being announced with no spinners! And a sports channel attributes it to 'obvious' reasons! I'd like to know how often India was deprived to play quickies while on tour. All that comparison of India's failure against pace to visiting teams' struggle against spin becomes laughable in the midst of short term tactics like this.

Posted by MadhavY on (October 25, 2012, 0:02 GMT)

neither Yuvraj nor Raina are good for no.6 position, accept it or not Swann will find it easier against them both. We need a right hand batsman and some one good against traditional off spin. Can't think of any really except for sehwag coming down, that will do wonders but we know Dhoni no matter what he will play Raina, Just hoping that he will come good. He's a good cricketer,works hard but i fear it may not be enough.

Posted by Akshay_mehta1 on (October 24, 2012, 23:48 GMT)

this seems to be a selection on planning and serious thinking, absolutely correct selection (1. Deprive England to play against spin on Indian conditions and their practices will hurt and this move will put a question mark in their brains….. (2. Indian will have a better look on their pace resources. Only one thing left to do, BCCI should ask their curators to prepare a fast track (does not matter if India A lose badly) it will make England play first test match without any preparation to play spin…….

For people who think this is not a fair play: remember what Australia and England do when India tour and play their practice games before series there…. They give Indian's a flat track

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

Good team selection, but i think Dinesh kartik and Parveen Kumar should also be included in squad for India A..

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

I am thinking that India is going to have Raina as a vice-captain. He is not fit for that kind of role! He is not even 30 and he is already having captaincy? Yuvi may be a little mean but he is more experienced than Raina. Yuvaraj Singh should be captain.

Posted by Dr.wolfenstein on (October 24, 2012, 22:33 GMT)

WHERE IS UNMUKT CHAND? What more a player has to perform to be in 'atleast', the "A" team???

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 22:28 GMT)

1 specialist spinner is not going to hurt us. We need England to be prepared to face spin. If they don't It is going to hurt India big time.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

who said india A doesn't have spinner..we have vinay kumar!!!

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 22:20 GMT)

Mandeep Shami ahamed b kumar should be there instead mkund vinay and dinda

Posted by Swapnil_ on (October 24, 2012, 22:07 GMT)

@Triple_A - Agreed Compltly Boss.. What i feel is, we should have rotation policy for all 11 slots.Every two of upcoming talents should get a complete series.For eg,Gambhir n sehwag rested in 1 series,den no 3 and no 4 in anoder series,den so on.this will help form a good team and a good bench strength.we have pujara,but we still didnt get replacement for Ganguly yet.If we would be having a good bench strength, this problem would have been solved.or even we didn't need to rely on gambhir-sehwag pair.even we dont have answer for whoz the next aftr zak.Even zak iz lyk monsoon who fires only on his day which comes once in many.and on his general dayz, afghan players hit him all over the ropes. Better we be ready from now only...

Posted by Triple_A on (October 24, 2012, 20:58 GMT)

@ProdigyA - I am no selector myself, but I am going to hazard a guess: 1. Raina is one of the two left handers in the middle order...India desperately needs one to stick after Ganguly retired. 2. He is on the right side of 30 - heck, he's only 25...3. He is the only one with decent captaincy experience - Saha and Mukund are too amateur atm and Yuvraj is a bad captain who will not want additional responsibility while recovering 4. Raina is in need of a decent score in First Class cricket to justify his selection in the national team..its almost like the Strauss situation in 2011 (when he was allowed to play in the A team when he was out of form). I sorta see your point about Chand though...but we have Irfan and Jadeja as examples - shone at the beginning when they were less than 21...then just lost it completely...Cheers for trying to have a decent, rational argument!

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (October 24, 2012, 20:40 GMT)

Rohit should only be selected after he re-proves himself. Good call by Sandeep and his new selectors!

Posted by theswami on (October 24, 2012, 19:48 GMT)

India will play 12 players in the practice match as allowed and it will probably include all players except Menaria & Rayudu ...

Posted by NeedToComment on (October 24, 2012, 19:13 GMT)

I'm pretty sure Rohit is being left out because he will get a change in the second game as part of Mumbai A squad

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 18:48 GMT)

cooll yuvi the bking.....king maker....................h

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 18:43 GMT)

Love how the Poms are going to be scared out of their wits with this...bring on the mind games! It's also a good thing to drop Rohit Sharma from the squad....he has flopped for too long without ever contributing to the cause. Raina shouldn't have been selected either...someone better equipped to play in the longer format couldve been given the chance...or perhaps Chand. Good to see no Badrinath either, if we are bent on preparing a young team, no point in giving a chance to someone who is 32+..

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 18:27 GMT)

India A team selection is perfect as selecter don't want any spinner to play. if spinners will play england batsman will get some match practice against indian spin bowling. those batsmen who all are selected are trying get a place in indian team.... so we are not seeing batsmen like VIRAT KHOLI, SHEWAG, GAMBHIR, PUJARA..... THESE BATSME WILL GET DIRECT CALL UP TO indian team... so raina as captain is good choice....

Posted by glovern on (October 24, 2012, 18:09 GMT)

Where's Unmukt Chand? he deserves to be in the India XI but he hasn't even been selected for the India A match?! I think that they should've selected spinners like Iqbal Abdulla because then if England do well againest him they'll feel confident once they face Ashwin which means that they'll be over confident and get out more because Abdulla is an easy spinner but Ashwin is something else. I think that Rahul Sharma should've been picked because I personally think he'll be the next Kumble

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 18:08 GMT)

How can we do this for a touring team,BCCI should be ashamed of these -ve thoughts which will backfire.

Posted by ProdigyA on (October 24, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

@Triple_A - I like ur optimism and to a large extent do agree with your comment. But, 1. You say Badri is already in the national squad so no need to select him, then why is Raina in the team. Atleast Raina got to play in the Test against NZ but what wrong did Badri do. We all know that Badri is a far better player than Raina in Tests. 2. U19 team should play first class, though ur logic is correct, i dont think it should be made a hard and fast rule. There can be exceptions where necessary, such as U.Chand. He is a great prospect and he should be blooded asap.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 17:47 GMT)

@Maddy20: Thank you for bringing up the subject of nonsensical blabbering. As expected, you're totally wrong about Tiwary taking five wickets in an ODI against Sri Lanka: in fact, his figures were 4-61 (which, btw, represents 80% of his total number of ODI wickets). And as for Tiwary, Yuvraj & Raina being 'decent part-timers' & one of them (whom you fail to name) being 'an all-rounder': let's take a look at their first-class bowling stats, shall we? Yuvraj: 21 wickets at 59 in 100 FC games; Tiwary 18 in 57 games at 60 apiece; & that fearsome partnership-breaker Raina: 26 in 73 games at 42. Assuming you can't do the Maths, that's a combined total of 65 wickets in 230 FC games at almost 55 each, with a best bowling performance of 3-25. Even KP on his own has a superior FC record to the combined records of those three: 71 wickets at 51 apiece in 191 matches, with a best bowling of 4-31. I rest my case.

Posted by Raj12345 on (October 24, 2012, 17:41 GMT)

@Laly Gill - are you aware how many test Vijay played. Go and check. Vijay played only when opener is not there. Vijay not played like Raina who got 8 tests in a row and produced nothing and still in team. big question.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 17:37 GMT)

Naren, Virat Kohli is a near certainty. The batsmen picked by Patil & co. are being tested to see who else can come into contention.

Posted by Gopalakrishna on (October 24, 2012, 17:25 GMT)

Suresh Raina is already in the verge of bowing out of Indian test team due to his inconsistent performances in the recent opportuinities given to him. Then why he is the captain. Ideally Virat Kohli should have been the captain Ganesh Satish of Karnataka is scoring consistantly in domestic cricket. Even Rahul Dravid has praised his technique in batting. He bats at number three for Karnataka. He has been done a a great injustice by the South Zone Selectors by not picking up for the South Zone Team in Duleep Trophy. R Prasanna batted at number in South Zone's Duleep Trophy match failed miserably. I am quite certain if Ganesh Satish had played instead of R Prasanna, he would have made the selectors to think that here is a batsman who can hold his place in the Indian team for years to come. Sandeep Patil and company should invest on Ganesh Satish. HR Gopala Krishna - Senior Cricket Statistician - Bangalore

Posted by Manager on (October 24, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

@Rumy1. You seem to have a very selective memory. Virat is still to be tested overseas but if you say he was a failure in England then you are wrong. He didn't play test matches on that tour but he did get useful scores in ODIs including a century. And in Australia the test century he got may or may not be on docile pitch but he even got 75 in the previous match too.

Posted by maddy20 on (October 24, 2012, 16:54 GMT)

@Si Baker If playing only one warmup game ahead of the England tour is ok, then not playing a specialist spinner in the 3 warmups is completely offered. Also for your info, the squad contains 2 decent partimers and 1 allrounder -Left arm spin of Yuvraj, and part time spin of Manoj Tiwary(Who picked a 5 for against SL in and ODI) , Suresh Raina(Dhoni's tried and tested partnership breaker in Indian conditions). If the English want to blabber nonsense instead of concentrating on the task at hand, then you are welcome to do so.

Posted by u.t.k.a.l on (October 24, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

Team selection is impressive but i woul prefer Badrinath and Dinesh Kartik in the team . Yet Badrinath is waiting for justice to his talent. Please selectors have a look @ the gem named BADRINATH. Badri is 100 times better as a test player & captain thn RAINA.

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

My India-A playing XI for the match with England would have been Wasim Jaffer, Ajinkya Rahane, S.Badrinath, M.Kaif, Robin Bist, Manoj Tiwari, WP Saha, Irfan Pathan, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, and Harbhajan Singh. This would have allowed talented folks Ishant and Umesh to get back to form and into the team. Harbhajan looked good in South Africa.It would be great to have Bhajji in form to have him in playing in Tests again as Ashwin hasn't delivered and his hype is over. I still maintain except for the carrom ball Ashwin is a good Ranji level offie. All average spinners do great on cracking dusty Indian tracks so let's not talk about what Ashwin did in the Tests against West Indians here at home. Jaffer could have replaced Gambhir and given the required solidity at the top. We all know how vulnerable is the opening slot right now with Gambhir completely sorted out by international bowlers and Sehwag clearly on the road downhill. Rahane could replace Sehwag and Kaif the crucial No.6 slot

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

New Selectors have not started on a good note. How has Raina become the No.1 contender again for the No.6 slot in Tests. I mean time and again Raina has proved that he is not a Test level batsman. He has not done anything of consequence lately either in any longer format to deserve a call. Perhaps he has some solid backing in the selection panel or some powerful outside hand is propping him up. Else he would have been history by now as far as Tests are concerned. What has he done lately in longer format to deserve a call.Md.Kaif - 31 did so brilliantly in the recent semi final in Duleep trophy surely deserved a place in India A team. The selectors selectively chose to recognise Yuvraj's performance but ignored Kaif's in the same match. Only a fool will deny this. I still believe Yuvraj should not play the longer version so soon after recovering from the health scare.He deserves to be in ODI and T20 and he should regain his fitness over th period of time to be able to qualify for Tests

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

Wasim Jaffer and Ajinkya Rahane deserve a chance at the top in the next Test against England. Just look at the performance of current openers - Sehwag and Gambhir. Sehwag's average in Tests over the last two years is 37 and Gambhir, has averaged just 30 in Tests in the last two years. Sehwag has only one Test century during these two years and Gambhir has shokingly not scored even one Test century in the last two years. Do these guys deserve to be in the Test team. The answer is obvious. For how long these guys will play on reputation and continue to negatively impact the team's performance and success. Is anybody listening there??

Posted by InsideHedge on (October 24, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

Rohit Sharma is actually a better bet to succeed at Test cricket than he is at Limited Overs cricket. It's ironic that his prolific scoring for Mumbai against all-comers always translates into ODI or T20 appearances for India. They need to stick with him for the longer format. Now that he's dropped, it will allow him to get back to spending many hours out in the middle with Mumbai's Ranji team. I'd advise him to seek a county cricket contract in England. A season or two in England's domestic FC competition will do him a world of good, he will return a much better batsman, one that no longer throws his wicket away when well set. That's an issue that M. Vijay, and Mukund don't currently have - they never last long enough to be set anyways!

Posted by Nampally on (October 24, 2012, 16:18 GMT)

Many people appear pleased with a squad devoid of spinners. To start with India does not have many quality spinners apart from Ashwin & Ojha. They took wickets against WI & NZ, but will not have such an easy time against batsmen like KP & Bell who play spinners well. Unless the wicket is a real turner, England will not fall as easily as NZ & WI did to the spinners. So India needs to plan development of good spinners as well as good seamers. Currently the Indian bowling is weak compared to all cricketing Nations. This squad does not focus on bowlers.The new Selectors should have a vision & plan on Nation wide basis & a timeline for development of 6 seamers & 6 spinners fit for Test Class.The same goes for the young batsmen advancement like U.Chand, Mandeep Singh. India A presents an opportunity for development of future Test talent.India A should be used for this purpose. India has lot of work to do and must focus on an on going basis for new batch of players to take over from retirees!

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 16:16 GMT)

@Cricraz & raghavmadan: just to clarify: by 'desperate measures' I wasn't referring to India's (almost certain) strategy of preparing rank turners for every Test & then selecting three specialist spinners: I was referring to the Indian selectors' decision to go into the India A v England game without a single specialist spinner. There's absolutely nothing wrong with preparing turning pitches when your most potent weapon is spin; nor is it in the least bit unsporting. @InsideHedge: correct: I'm *extremely* happy. India have already managed to score a couple of spectacular psychological own goals before the series has even started. I'm not even going to bother asking you in which way you consider my logic to be flawed, btw, as I don't expect a remotely sensible answer.

Posted by cricsans on (October 24, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

That Raina plays for CSK is a good enough reason, for him to be selected as India A skipper. Power of Cement in Indian cricket.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 16:10 GMT)

Where is Virat Kohli? Why is he not the Captain of the Indian A team? He will be a better choice than Raina, Pujara, Sehwag or Gabhir. All these guys will have to earn their places in the team before they should be considered for Captaincy. May be because Kohli is not connected in someway with Mr. Shrinivasan's business or his team CSK so he is not made Captain. If it is so, Shrinivansan should be removed from the cricket board for the good of Indian Cricket and its followers.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

Clear view your name suggests that you lack vision and your comment proved it..

Posted by dexionbt on (October 24, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

Good decision not to have any spinners exposed to English batsman. Now its time for this new and bold selection panel to ALSO DROP or REST uncle Sachin for this series , so that he gets the message and RETIRES from Cricket and tries to salvage some respect from all his EX- FANS. UNCLE sachin must never be selected for his PAST records and the no 4 slot can be given to Yuvraj or anyone else who is not a HANDICAP to TEAM INDIA , AS fast running between the wickets when batting and fast running while fielding is equally important for us to have the edge. Be BOLD selectors !! The Fans will appreciate !!

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

Its a shame Rohit sharma has been dropped but I still think he will perform better in Test cricket than ODI as it will be able to take his time constructing an innnings and not worrying about scoring quickly( resulting in him playing a daft shot) Saha looks good behing the stumps and would be a good bet to take over from Dohni when the time comes. I think Dohni is not a strong test match batsman and evenutally should be allowed to focus on limited overs cricket. Glad to see Rahanne given a chance too but Raina I cant see anytime soon of taking his limited overs specialist label off himself.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 15:42 GMT)

gambhir and sehwag have been out of form for a long time selectors also should avoid murali vijay hes been given way to many chances. i would give a badrinath a chance

Posted by spickandspan on (October 24, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

@ Vimnu, "If u go to england they are going to psyche u out in different fashions, getting our games cancelled or going for the kill.". Yes it is well known that the ECB are able to control the weather in England. Oh you're actually being serious...

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

Rohit should have been picked. He is a great talent & needs match practise. But hats off to the selectors for not picking any spinner for this practise match.

Posted by Nawab67 on (October 24, 2012, 15:31 GMT)

Who says we don't have spinners.....our pacers bowl as fast as spinners so...LOL

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 15:31 GMT)

Not selecting a spinner is a masterstroke by the selectors. In my opinion 3 spinners should be selected in the final team when the series begins. Rayudu finally got a call but I was disappointed that he got it only because Dhawan was not available. He truly deserves the place in the team entirely on his credentials. I still doubt the fitness of Yuvi for a 5 day match. He might have scored a double century but we can see that he is completely exhausted and did not bat in the 2nd innings when Noth zone came to bat even after 5/6 wickets fell. Have to see how far he has imroved now. Gambhir should have played this match and regain his form.

Posted by Unmesh_cric on (October 24, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

I think this is a mistake. Sharma should be in India's Test plans. In my opinion, Sharma is a good batsman in T20 and Test format, but not in ODIs. In ODIs he doesn't find the right balance between attack & defense, and has a confused approach. So his ODI performance should not jeopardize his Test selection. He has a first class average of close to 60, which is as good as anybody. This means he has what it takes for the long format. Give him a chance in Tests and I am sure he will perform well. He can be dropped from ODIs though.

Posted by TRAM on (October 24, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

Badrinath is not there? Is it because he failed to perform in first class matches or his 56 in his first innings (out of only 3 innings chances) against Styn+Morkel is not good enough ? or is it because his name is not Rohit Sharma ?

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

My India-A playing XI for the match with England would have been Wasim Jaffer, Ajinkya Rahane, S.Badrinath, M.Kaif, Robin Bist, Manoj Tiwari, WP Saha, Irfan Pathan, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, and Harbhajan Singh. This would have allowed talented folks Ishant and Umesh to get back to form and into the team. Harbhajan looked good in South Africa.It would be great to have Bhajji in form to have him in playing in Tests again as Ashwin hasn't delivered and his hype is over. I still maintain except for the carrom ball Ashwin is a good Ranji level offie. All average spinners do great on cracking dusty Indian tracks so let's not talk about what Ashwin did in the Tests against West Indians here at home. Jaffer could have replaced Gambhir and given the required solidity at the top. We all know how vulnerable is the opening slot right now with Gambhir completely sorted out by international bowlers and Sehwag clearly on the road downhill. Rahane could replace Sehwag and Kaif the crucial No.6 slot

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

Raina is not a test material ..Yuvraj not sure . And good to see Rohit dropped in spite of being my fav player

Posted by KishorKumar25 on (October 24, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

Ahh stuart binny would have been included :(

Posted by ProdigyA on (October 24, 2012, 15:17 GMT)

Excellent: Rohit Out Tiwary In.

Good: Yuvi, Rayudu, Rahane In.

Bad: Maneria, Bist In (who are they?). Badri, U.Chand not In.

Stupid: Raina In and that too Captain? (where do i hide my face).

Posted by J_kamal on (October 24, 2012, 15:15 GMT)

well done sandip patil n co..erased the whole advantage of england , which they were trying to make out of practice games ..selectors should back the team and they did ..:)

Posted by xylo on (October 24, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

Is Badrinath's time officially over?

Posted by ProdigyA on (October 24, 2012, 15:11 GMT)

Glad that Rohit is gone FINALLY and Tiwary is In but Suresh Raine and that too captain in the longer format? What were these guys thinking. That guy should not even made to watch Test cricket forget playing or worse captaining it. GG and Sehwag are in the worst form of their life, shouldnt they been given a chance to get their act together, unless ofcourse if they dont have plans to include them in tests, which, in India, is practically impossible.

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

M.Vijay and Abhinav Mukund yet again?? I thought Srikkanth was gone and these two would be g too.These guys need to improve their technique to be able to come up to Test level. So what Tests are on docile home grounds. Should we have adhoc players who could play on friendly pitches and some who could on friendly. Amongst younger lot it is only C.Pujara who looks able to get into the shoes of Dravid/Laxman/Sachin for Tests.Even Virat Kohli has chinks in his armoury.Kohli's 100 in Austrrlia was on a completely docile track. Both in Austarlia and in England he failed.Kohli must be preserved for only ODIs and T20s until he is comfortable with swinging and short pitched stuff on bouncy fast tracks.Ajinkya Rahane deserves to be tried and tested but as an opener only. Gambhir is on his way out and this could be his last series. Sehwag is also on a downhill. It's time India prepares a couple of openers for Tests. Rahane could be one. Pragmatic way is to recall Jaffer-best opener in India today

Posted by palla.avinash on (October 24, 2012, 14:52 GMT)

This is joke who said there are no spinners in squad may be not specialists but there are spinners who can trouble England Manoj Tiwary leg spin ,yuvi and agarwal left arm off break and raina and dhawans right arm off break.good selectors are looking at the 4th and 5th pacers required and 6th batsmen in th line and openers who can replace sehwag if he fails.very good selections i hope rainia give bowling regularly to yuvi,dhawan and tiwary when kp is not their because he is the won who can trash indian spin attack and see raina does as skipper and batsmen and good to see saha again the best keeper batsmen for tests arguably and why yuvi after all he failed to prove himself in 37 tests similar to rohit sharma in odis this is because of attitude problems not talent wise any way this should be his last chance tiwary and rahane needs to get a chance after all he has done in first class cricket. i hope our seamers come good and expecting track which has bounce not a flat one.

Posted by phunny_game on (October 24, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

@nampally: "Suresh raina has never captained any team except the solo clt20 game"..??? Are you seriuos... he was the captain of the team on india's tour of west indies in 2011... i don't support raina either, but that is a fact.

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 24, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

New Selectors have not started on a good note. How has Raina become the No.1 contender again for the No.6 slot in Tests. I mean time and again Raina has proved that he is not a Test level batsman. He has not done anything of consequence lately either in any longer format to deserve a call. Perhaps he has some solid backing in the selection panel or some powerful outside hand is propping him up. Else he would have been history by now as far as Tests are concerned. What has he done lately in longer format to deserve a call.Md.Kaif - 31 did so brilliantly in the recent semi final in Duleep trophy surely deserved a place in India A team. The selectors selectively chose to recognise Yuvraj's performance but ignored Kaif's in the same match. Only a fool will deny this. I still believe Yuvraj should not play the longer version so soon after recovering from the health scare.He deserves to be in ODI and T20 and he should regain his fitness over th period of time to be able to qualify for Tests

Posted by Raj12345 on (October 24, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

Good selection except missing Dinesh Karthik. I don't understand what mistake he has done and why he is not given chances these years. Always sleeping & worthless Saha is been preferred. I think Dhoni don't like DK in any form and scared of seeing better WK than him. There is no doubt about Dhoni batting skill than DK. It is time to look next good WK, that is DK.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

I am shocked to see no quality spinner in the team! Is this a strategy to devoid the English batters from practice against the spin?

Posted by batnpad on (October 24, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

Everyone relax. There are 3 practice games before the tests and this squad is only for the 1st one. As far as batting positions go, I see possibly 2 changes before the test series ends. I don't see GG and VS making consistent runs in the initial 2 tests. If one of them fails miserably (which their current form suggests will happen in all likelihood), the successfull of Mukund, Vijay or Rahane would replace him. I don't see yuvraj's stamina holding up for all 4 cramped tests. Tiwary or Raina would split the tests with Yuvraj.

Posted by cnumadhu on (October 24, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

Not sure on what basis Rohit is dropped. Poor guy never gets a proper run. When he is in form in domestic cricket, he gets picked either for ODI's or 20-20s where he is not consistent. When he was inform last season, he should have played at least couple of tests in Australia. Players should be selected and judged based on performance in a particular format.

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 24, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

We did not realize that India are THAT scared. The scars of the 4-0 mauling are still raw, aren't they? Hiding the spinners is only going to postpone the inevitable. The ECB needs to cancel this warm up match, we would be better off in net practice against our own, rather than wasting time against these club bowlers. An absolute insult.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 24, 2012, 14:33 GMT)

@indian fans - its only India A and the new selectors are trying things out. Although I do agree there needs to be clear DISTINCTION of TEST and ODI quality players. The main test team should be different. Players like BADRINATH, PUJARA, KOHLI, RAHANE are test material. We need players who can face at least 100 balls and not lose their wicket with the correct technique. MUKUND, VIJAY, DHAWAN have put their case forward recently as openers - their real test comes on foreign pitches where high bounce and seam conditions.

Posted by annys on (October 24, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

MY India squad for first test:

gauti,sehwag,pujara,sachin,kohli,rahane/yuvi,dhoni,aswin,ohja,umesh,zaheer

Posted by Triple_A on (October 24, 2012, 14:15 GMT)

I think Sandeep Patil and Co. have done a great job. People from India: you have to understand that there are like 30 players who can potentially play for India A at the moment...you cannot choose all of them for one match. Someone will have to sit out. This is a pretty strong team as it is. Also, I find no reason for U-19 players to be thrust into India A already, they should come up the ranks through the Ranji...they haven't played much First Class level cricket and should not be rushed in - this is for their own good! Also, Badri/Pujara/Kohli are already in the National Squad - you dont play them in the A squad too just because you can! People NOT from India: please realize that this IS a very good playing eleven...we have not put a sub-standard team here (you can check the player's Profile pages). And not selecting a proper spinner is a tactical move, not an unsportsmanlike one. All in all, its a significant improvement from the squads chosen by Srikanth...

Posted by anjee on (October 24, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

i completely agree with rahul...why suresh raina is in this team ?? GOD only knows....look at his record as well as technique to play test cricket...!!!he shud never be considered ton play test matches...!!

Posted by Dashgar on (October 24, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

Strategy of not letting England get used to spin is very defeatist, reminds me of Gambhir saying he wanted dusty turners in response to the supposedly green Adelaide Oval. Powerful nations want to beat touring sides in every game, not just the tests. India are clearly far from powerful these days if they're willing to effectively forfeit an A game.

Posted by cric_follower on (October 24, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

why leave Rohit out here. Shikhar Dhawan at least does not meet the cut.

Posted by Dashgar on (October 24, 2012, 13:57 GMT)

Is it just me or have 44 different players played for India A in their last 4 games. There seems to be no consistency or planning. Maybe drop Rohit but why drop Dhawan?

Posted by RK.Chandru on (October 24, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

For heaven's sake, do not give too many chances to the out of form openers stating the age old illogical theory, "Form is temporary and class is permanent!" Our openers have time and again proved they lack class too and I beg they be replaced by Rahane/Vijay/Mukund/Shikar. When these players are waiting for their much deserved chances, why waste time and opportunity on failing, fading Viru and Gamhir? Give the new players a full series and a sufficiently longer run to settle and prove their worth. We already wasted enough time on the existing openers. None is indispensible and everyone however great his past records may be, should earn and retain his place in the team on CURRENT form. I again wish, Zak be replaced by an youngster too.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 24, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

the thing which amazes me most is that on what basis raina has been made captain ? the guy is a disgrace to long form of cricket .he should not be selected in the test team for eng series .

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 24, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

AT LAST ROHIT HAS BEEN DROPPED . VERY GOOD TO SEE THAT OUR NEW SELECTORS ARE NOT LIKE THE PREVIOUS ONES . may be our selectors don't want to give practice to english batsmen so they have not selected any spinner in the team .

Posted by Vinmu on (October 24, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

Atleast its something new , before we get into Pros n Cons , lets atleast see how it goes.Our seam bowling also is not doing great and we need sufficient practice for them as well and knowing england as much limited exposure to spin they have the better. Theory of them playing 3 spinners against India doesnt matter at all.Our third tier spinners currently do not exist .So before a theory is written off lets see what happens.If u go to england they are going to psyche u out in different fashions, getting our games cancelled or going for the kill.Good to see INdians trying new things out too

Posted by vish57 on (October 24, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

Selectors are not fair to give chance to budding spinners; unfair means to play a gentlemen game, ideally both Harbhajan and Ashwin need to compete with each other against England in tour game for a place in Test XI. Iqubal Abdulla can prove to be a better spinner than Ohja, Amit Mishra or Peeyush Chawla can be better than Rahul Sharma as a leggie. Selectors are short sighted and trying to be over smart in their approach. Let selectors select the team on performance, not on reputation of a player. They could have given chance to Shewag to redeem his batting which was pretty poor in test cricket in the recent past.

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 24, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

So why not play 11 batsmen? may be they know pace or no pace won't bother English so let these medium pacers slog it out. I see Robin, Menaria and Rayudu sitting out.

Posted by Abrars on (October 24, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

No spinner is quite intelligent selection. My India A team is VJ ,dhawan tiwary, bist,raina,yuvi,pat,din,vinay,Awana, My india team is sehwag,gambier,pujara,kohli,raina,yuvi,DHONI,ojha,Ashwin,yadav,khan..please no sachin......keep belief in players....for me sehwag is as good as DHONI gambier will get his form raina is the best in sub continent

Posted by FarSight on (October 24, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

The selectors' independence will be tested when they choose the team for the first test. If they don't drop Tendulkar and Sehwag, then one can quickly conclude that it is the same bad wine in an old bottle with a new label.

Posted by Nampally on (October 24, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

It is a strange & unbalanced team squad. There are no spinners in the squad unless one considers Tiwary,Raina & Yuvraj as the full time spinners! India A team is supposed to represent the young talent knocking at the door. This was ideal chance to play talents such as Badri, Harmeet singh, Mandeep singh, U.Chand & keep C.Pujara as the skipper. Pujara is likely to be the future Indian skipper, unless the New Selectors have their own "favourite". A person must deserve his place in the XI before he is the skipper & have some experience.Raina barely makes the test XI & has never captained any team unless you count his solo CLT20 game in place of Dhoni. With this type of squad selection, the rationale of the new selection panel is even a bigger mystery than Srikant's panel. Any good selection panel has a vision, plan & rationale for the squad selection not just put 14 names!. This squad selection is devoid of these fundamentals. Sadly, the New selection panel has been a big disappointment!

Posted by FarSight on (October 24, 2012, 13:16 GMT)

It will be good if Yuvraj replaces Tendulkar at No. 4 spot for the first test. The new selectors may also want to drop Sehwag.

Posted by samudralakiku on (October 24, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

I think this is a great strategy. Don't give england any practice against spin and maul them in the actual tests. It is hightime for India to pay back to England.

Posted by wolf777 on (October 24, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

Indian team management and writers like Amol Karhadkar don't trust bowlers. Why not pick an allrounder for that spot? What's the need for six specialist batsman when the WK is a good batsman? I don't think going in with such a defensive mindset is the right idea. The better choice would be Irfan Pathan as an allrounder and the fifth bowling option.

Posted by cricraz on (October 24, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

Replying to Si Baker, When English, Aussies prepare green tracks for subcontinental teams, that is considered good cricket and test for these teams. No one is more hypocritical than the English and the ICC, because turning tracks are immediately denounced. Why are the turners not a test for these teams? When India toured England and Australia, they did not have pre test matches on green tracks and led them to being undercooked. I did not hear the English complain then. This is good strategy. Swann has never shown to be good on Indian wickets. Even the best spinner, Shane Warne and Murali was done in India on turning wickets!!. Swann can exert pressure if the fast bowlers are taking wickets consistently but when fast bowlers fail, these spinners are not able to generate pressure!!

Posted by i_witnessed_2011 on (October 24, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

I dont think Raydu plays for Baroda... Cricinfo please verify.

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 24, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

The pitch will be an absolute belter with no respite to any bowlers, a acouple of 100s will be hailed and the bowlers will be ridiculed after thier performance on such a lacklusture pitch. I pity Pathan, Dinda, VK and Awana. Its a batsmans game after all.

Posted by vinay24 on (October 24, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

Give oppurtunity to those ppl who want to proove, wo ho want to acheive, who want to excel for india like yuvraj who all these playing years want to excel in tests.. People liike rahane, tiwary, bsadrinath, dhawan, awana, under 19 players like sandeep sharma should be given a chance, bcoz desperately wants fast bowlers. Gambhir, sehwag, rohit sharma, raina, had their fair chances. Now rahane, vijay should be given as openers chance. For god sake se;ectors select those people who have fire, hunger and dedication to do well for india. When we see gambhir poking outside off stump and getting out, seeing sehwag wasting his wicket playing like chalta hain kaun kya karlega, and rohit sharma playing careless thinking that i am already selected for next series watching these three guys on tv it's utter disgrace.........

Give ppl the chance who are doing well, having good form.

Let us hope that what selectors do for 1st test,

Fingers crossed hope for good selection.

Posted by kevnssuresh on (October 24, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

I prefer giving No 6 to Rahane since he is regular Top Order batsman so he can play well at spot and his technique is really good otherwise give a chance Tiwary.Well first of all we need to see how Team A batsman performs against fast bowlers and their short balls. Rayudu could be another option as he played really well in recent past but I don't remember seeing him performing well against best pace attack. Hopefuflly this match would give us a better idea on who would/can perform well against good pace attack. Good luck guys... Any one of you can secure No6 spot so keep that in mind and play well and with positive attitude.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

u chand should have been selected in place vijay but good selection except useless vinay kumar

Posted by raghavmadan on (October 24, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

BTW, both Yuvi and Raina are better spin bowlers than Samit Patel.

Posted by raghavmadan on (October 24, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@Si Baker - What's wrong in producing rank turners? Did you see spin friendly pitches last year in England or Australia?

IMO we should definitely play to our strengths. Produce pitches that spin and bounce from Day 1, pitches that have absolutely NO lateral movement. Further, against English, Australian and South Africans, we should only play test matches in Cochin, Chennai etc. highly hot and humid places. No need to do them any favours.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

at least one spinner should be taken tat can be pragyan ojha or rahul sharma

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Why is Rahane being considered for #6? He would be best utilised as an opener. We have given enough rope to Sehwag & Gambhir - drop them, let them go back to domestic cricket & rediscover their form. And I would say blood Unmukt Chand in a home series. Test Team shd look like this - 1. Ajinkya Rahane 2. Unmukt Chand 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Virat Kohli 6. Yuvraj Singh 7. R Ashwin 8. MS Dhoni 9, 10 & 11 - any 3 of Irfan Pathan / Umesh Yadav / Ishant Sharma / Varun Aaron / Pragyan Ojha. ODI - 1. Ajinkya Rahane 2. Sachin Tendulkar / Unmukt Chand 3. Virat Kohli 4. Yuvraj Singh 5. Suresh Raina 6. Manoj Tiwary 7. MS Dhoni 8. R Ashwin 9, 10 & 11 - any 3 of Irfan Pathan / Umesh Yadav / Ishant Sharma / Varun Aaron / Pragyan Ojha. T20 - 1. Ajinkya Rahane 2. Unmukt Chand 3. Virat Kohli 4. Yuvraj Singh 5. Suresh Raina 6. Manoj Tiwary 7. MS Dhoni 8. R Ashwin 9, 10 & 11 - any 3 of Irfan Pathan / Umesh Yadav / Ishant Sharma / Varun Aaron / Pragyan Ojha.

Posted by Haleos on (October 24, 2012, 12:48 GMT)

@ symsun - I just hoped that someone was not Vijayi.

Posted by Haleos on (October 24, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

Vijay again? Seriously? One of the most overrated cricketer India has produced. Lion in Domestic, a meek cat in Internationals. Did Sandeep Patil get a call from Cheeka? Glad to see Irfan back in fold. @Aycaramba29 - He is not even good for club cricket. Carries himself around as if he has scored million runs. all overconfidence no performance.

Posted by InsideHedge on (October 24, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

@Si Baker: You look worried....of course I'm assuming that you're an England fan. If so, surely you should be happy - according to your (flawed) logic.

Posted by Haleos on (October 24, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

Sandeep Patil has shown that he is not going to go regional like Mr Cheeka by dropping Rohit. Unfair on him coz he is cut out to be a test batsman and people have tried in on ODIs and T20 which is frankly not his cup of tea.

Posted by InsideHedge on (October 24, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

Once again the Rohit Sharma haters are out in force. I'd rather watch a glorious 20 from Rohit, the ball gliding off his bat, I'm guaranteed to see at least one special stroke than be put through the miserable experience of Murali Vijay and/or Mukund struggle to place bat on ball. Both Vijay and Mukund will NEVER make the Test grade, we've seen them struggle on the slow pitches of West Indies. Just how many more A games will Mukund get to play? If he can't make heavy scores against 2nd tier opponents then how will he ever succeed at the highest level?

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 24, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

Quite defensive not to play spinners, its neither a good ploy or great tactic. Id rather play spinners and knock the confidence of English batters. And then they pick 4 openers who are vying at least 1 opening spot and 4 middle order (Tiwary, Yuvi, Raina, Bist) vying for that 1 No.6 position. Gosh that is a lot!!!! Although good to see Pathan in whites. Why not Shammi Ahmed, he was the pick of bowlers in Windies and NZ A tours.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 24, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

Rayudu, vijay,mukund, Menaria and bist are good additions. Rayudu is gutsy player. Division of test temperament players and one day players seems to be on the selectors minds. A good start to their job.

Posted by Jaggu6666 on (October 24, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

i love the decision of BCCI to pick for playing agaisnt England tour of India....

Posted by Jaggu6666 on (October 24, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Yovaraj is the right slsection to Indian sqaud for especially to paly against England.. now he is in mood of winning and also in good form..and good come back for Yuvi...

Posted by AbySibyKalapurayil on (October 24, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

What's the point of selecting 14 members??? The Ranji season starts on 2nd of November and these 14 are likely to miss it. At least BCCI should relieve 3 non playing members early to make them able to play their Ranji matches. The sceond XI players should had to get enough matches. England Cricket Board does the same in England, even in the international series.

Posted by PACERONE on (October 24, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

The selectors are smart to not give England any practice against good spinners.Yuvraj will give then enough trouble.I hope that he gets the #6 batting position because his bowling will make a difference.This pace attack will do well against England.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (October 24, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

Good one. Let the English taste their own medicine. They didn't allowed Monty to bowl against Sachin in nets even if he was not in England team.

Posted by whatawicket on (October 24, 2012, 11:55 GMT)

dibblydobber india got what india asked for and got. to say england deprived india of match time is a piece of nonsense. the problem was india came of a tour of WIs with the players not selected for that tour there may have been a problem but it was of Indias making. the counties would bend over backwards to get a tour game. the not playing a recognized spinner seems overkill in its extrem. would we have ever made a spinning track so that the indian batters could get practice then prepare a seeming track for the tests, i think not. it reminds we the last time we toured pakistan were 2 pitches were prepared and depending on who won the toss dictated on which pitch was played on.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

Now, i hope we are not expecting a paradigm shift with Sandeep Patil as the national selector. Please remember that every powerful institution is made up by many pillars. That said, smart move by the man. And here's to hoping that selectors will select on sound judgement rather than whim and monkeyism (as was the case with Srikkanth and Co.)

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

Good Selection......

My Playing 11 would be

A Mukund, M Vijay, S Dawan, A Rajane, Yuvray Singh, M Tiwary, S Raina, W Saha, I Pathan, A Dinda, V Kumar....

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

all 14 players fighting for place in TEST squad (specially Yuvi ,Raina & Pathan) , hopefully they will put up some good performances .

Posted by arifzakaria811gmail.com on (October 24, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

Raina is not test material. By making him play tests, BCCI is risking denting their best player of T20/ODI confidence . Let Raina be only in T20/ODI team where he is best asset for India. Put Rahane or Rayudu in test squad.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

grt idea of not playing any spinners...its a kind of a mind game too... and the pitch fr india a vs england xi shud be seamer friendly too...so that englands prcts shud be so little.....

good to leave out rohit... enough of backing him...he is so talented... bt he jst keeps throwing away the chances he is getting... remember wen he ws left out of world cup 2011 squad, he came back with all guns blazing in the odi series against west indies..... so he really need that kinda reminder again...

Posted by jackiethepen on (October 24, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

No spinners in India A. Are they scared of England then? I suppose they must have not recovered from the 4-0 whitewash so they have to resort to tactics such as these. Must boost England's confidence.

Posted by smbhayi on (October 24, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

where is Mohammed kaif...??? He is ignored again and again... Why???? He is a lot better than rainas and rohiths in test cricket.... Really he deserve a chance...

Posted by aakkil on (October 24, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

mukund should play ahead of vijay or dhavan, he got a hundred and played well against a good attack of NZA , vijay and dhavan are never been consistant while mukund is piling on runs every season. One or two good innings,evirybody want vijay and dhavan !

Posted by DibblyDobbler2 on (October 24, 2012, 11:03 GMT)

Finally India are learning from their competitors...this is exacly what England did to India ...deprive them of the chance of practice and then maul them in the Test Matches .... well done Patil ... time to grow up and be prifessional now...

Posted by symsun on (October 24, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

Very gud selection. We all know that Rohit Sharma is the best player in the nets. He needs to show his class by getting runs to get back in the squad. You cant carry a nets player with the squad always. Its a waste of talent. Someone else could grab the chance better.

Posted by prerakahlawat on (October 24, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

I don't think its fair to not include any spinners. Will Indian team agree to play against a team having no pacers when they go to SA? Yes, we do want to beat them but only by playing fair and good. A thinking of fear that England players will acclimatize by playing spinners is not the the correct way to go at all. They already have Swann who is a very good spinner.

Posted by khan14mkn on (October 24, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

good that there are no spinners in this squad.england wont get a taste of specialist spinner until they meet india and in my opinon the sixth slot must go to yuvraj as he has shown promising performance (duleep trophy) and i hope raina doesnt play test matches because he stuggles agaist short balls.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

An implausibly crass decision by India's selectors to play no specialist spinners - for four very good reasons: 1.It sends a crystal-clear signal to England to expect raging turners from Day 1 to Day 20 of the Test series. If England's own selectors have any sense, they'll plan accordingly by giving Swann, Panesar & Patel as much match practice as possible, with the view of countering what will almost certainly be a three-pronged Indian spin attack with a triple-spin assault squad of their own. 2. It sends another, more subtle signal to England: that India are sufficiently worried about them to believe that they need to resort to desperate measures in order to attempt to wrong-foot them. 3. It deprives India of the opportunity to try out their second-tier spinners against England's Test batting line-up. 4. It provides England with a golden opportunity to gain much-needed confidence on Indian pitches by running riot against India's 3rd XI seam attack. All in all, a monumental fail.

Posted by Mali-T658 on (October 24, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

Vijay is a club level player. He might rack up runs in Ranjis, but, stands no chance against quality bowlers like Steyn, Morkel, Ajmal. Better leave the guy and try to nurture other players. Raina's case is somewhat on the same lines. He's a good limited overs player, but, he doesn't have the temperament for Tests. Badrinath, Rohit Sharma and Wasim Jaffer should be given opportunity in Tests. Moving on to bowling, it's high time we stop depending on Zak alone. He looks rusty and there's a need for quality bowlers who can swing the ball and clock 140-150 KMPH consistently. I just wonder if smaller countries like South Africa, New Zealand, England can produce quality pace bowlers why not the country with 1 billion population!

Posted by venkiarun1 on (October 24, 2012, 10:50 GMT)

Praying Almighty to shower his blessings to Yuvi to storm..

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:48 GMT)

Good Selection and also useful for the young players.1.Dhawan,2.Viijay,3.Rahane,4.Yuvraj,5.Tiwary,6.Raina,7.Saha,8.I.Pathan,9.Dinda,10.Vinay,11.Awana are the best 11 players

Posted by tambolisamir on (October 24, 2012, 10:45 GMT)

Why 14 man squad???... at least for practice match select 12 man squad...no point in making players sit out on benches in practice match...

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:43 GMT)

At least keep Ojha! How about B Kumar scord runs like Ashwin!

Posted by khan14mkn on (October 24, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

praveen and bhajji should had been included or atleast rahul sharma

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:37 GMT)

We are is Mohamed Kaif. He is a better test player. I am sure he will proof if he given another chance

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

actually a very good selection by the panel... its good to see guys like bist, menaria and awana being rewarded for their performances...

Posted by dilipm on (October 24, 2012, 10:28 GMT)

Wonder why Raina gets picked again and again in the longer format. His technique against the rising ball is suspect and while he may be able to score against England on softer surfaces in India what will it prove?It would have been much better to try somebody else in place who has better chances of succeeding abroad. Can't work out the logic.

Posted by devil_in_details on (October 24, 2012, 10:25 GMT)

Selectors showing there (undeserved) faith in raina again. so now since he is the captain and cant be kicked out, the team will likely be Vijay, rahane, tiwari, yuvaraj, raina, dhawan/menaria/bist, saha, irfan, vinay, dinda, awana..wud have liked ishant and aaron here but they are still injured/ recovering from injury but those are anyday better than this selection

Posted by ADI_GUNGALIYA_FANTASY on (October 24, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

Happy with Irfan inclusion, he will surly shows his talent

Posted by aakkil on (October 24, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

why these selectors are unable to understand that RAINA is HIT OR BLOCK player. Saying him as a test material is sad, this will happen only in india. Here BALL STRIKING ability is taken as TALENT.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:12 GMT)

great chance to prove !!!

Posted by masoodali150 on (October 24, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Best of Luck U.V. it concern to your future.

Posted by stormy16 on (October 24, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Not sure about the 'no spinner' decision. I realize all of India want to thump Eng to make up for the drubbing in Eng but its a warm up game meant to acclamatize the visitors - pretty hard to do that without facing spin in India! It would amount to playing a warm up game in England with 3 spinners - somethings just aint cricket folks. The Yuvraj's, Raina's, Rohits, Vijay's, Dhawans have been around a while and not grabbed opportunities given to them. I would have prefered to see the next generation below this lot given a chance to unearth the next Kholi like player. I have seen Chand bat just once in the recent CL20 and he looked something really special and would have loved to see that kind of youngster given a shot.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Seris my be turner pitch.. gd jb BCCI, ENG nw Will be afraid of spin track

Posted by i_witnessed_2011 on (October 24, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Good Selection... But where is Badarinath? He should have given opportunity. and IMO not including spinner is not a wise option . Atleast Rahul sharma should have been included.

Posted by devil_in_details on (October 24, 2012, 9:58 GMT)

Forget about yuvaraj batting, seeing this bowling 'attack' its clear he will first have to think about bowling 20 overs a day :)

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:54 GMT)

why the selection panel had removed unmukt chand frm the squad????this will give such player a lot of confidence to play in the future!!!despite he is nt here in the squad

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:53 GMT)

Chand,Pujara,Rohit,spinner Chandila,Bhaji,P Ojha,Yadav,Praveen???where?

Posted by Dheeraj_Shetty on (October 24, 2012, 9:46 GMT)

I love the idea of not picking spinners in the 11, this shows signs of massive spin pitch during the 1st test. Mind games have started. Sunil Gavaskar earlier during CLT20 said that Kevin Pietersen would be of more threat to Indians than Swann, time for the Indian commentators for some tough basing like the English counterparts.

Posted by 007Pralay on (October 24, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

Where is Varun Aarun ?? Is he injured ?? Does anybody know where he is and why not being selected ???

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

Yuvi can bowl spin if needed ...

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:41 GMT)

@Aakash he is injured, he is not in the daredevils squad for CLT20 either

Posted by grizzle on (October 24, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

TontonZolaMoukoko: I don't think it is as cut and dry as you say. When India toured England, Andy Flower was quite upset that Monty Panesar bowled to Tendulkar in the nets.

Posted by DEV_ME on (October 24, 2012, 9:37 GMT)

The team selection is pretty refreshing; many positives here - Mukand/Vijay had to be tried as a pair, since 'they always hunt in a pair', Rahane, Tiwary, Dhawan need the chances to display, Saha selects himself on the basis of his keeping and batting, and the 4 bowlers do need a chance to bowl themselves back in form. Read many comments here, some are very naive too - Aaron is injured (back) and under treatment, he played IPL with injury and aggravated it. Leaving out spinners -well with the exception of Rahane, Bist, Menaria & Saha, everyone bowls in this team. Pujara in India A - dont worry, his No.3 spot in Natioanl team is sealed, for the moment. "British Fair Play" ..huh? come again ?? This team is in no way sub-standard, these are the guys who are knocking heavily on the national door - to the extent that if Dhoni would not have been Captain, Saha would of replaced him ! This team provides the options for Gambhir, Sehwag, Tendulkar, and then - the crucial No.6 spot; Interesting

Posted by Cricketfan101 on (October 24, 2012, 9:34 GMT)

Why no mandeep Singh he had a good a tour to New Zealand and same for rayudu

Posted by Shridharan.S on (October 24, 2012, 9:34 GMT)

Very good selection by Sandeep Patil and co. The decision not to include a spinner was a smart choice as England Team will not get the idea of spin.

Posted by rob-nick on (October 24, 2012, 9:33 GMT)

good to see robin bist,maneria,awana,manoj in the squad and hope to see them in the final 15 of the series

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:28 GMT)

But... India is gonna Struggle without R Ashwin.....bcoz, he can spin the ball as well as bat down the order....... but anways the batting order looks solid !!!Its sad the squad is missing A Rahane !!!

Posted by Cricketfan101 on (October 24, 2012, 9:27 GMT)

@Aakash balani Aaron is still injured that why he didn't go the champions league and god decision not to include any spinners

Posted by Hunbbel on (October 24, 2012, 9:26 GMT)

The selection could have been better. But the decision to play no spinners (with a bad intention) does not convey a very good message. When India toured England, it wasn't the setup anyway. Such a big cricketing nation shouldn't have done this.

Hoping to see a good cricketing series.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 9:26 GMT)

Bisht seems to be more promising. If he bats with authority against this English attack, no body can stop him from getting into the team. Not just the #6 spot vacant, #1 and #4 are also up for grabs and that will be decided at the end of the series.

Posted by Jai_Hyd on (October 24, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

Why Raina is the captain, when is not a probable for the Final 11, the Selectors should give chance to someone like Virat or other who are in the playing 11 against Eng in the test matches.

Posted by Jai_Hyd on (October 24, 2012, 9:23 GMT)

Rohit is left over... thats a very good decision, he is the best talented guy we have in the A Team, but his attitude has always let him down. Looking forward for Yuvi....

Posted by usernames on (October 24, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

For a one match squad, what's the reasoning behind picking so many players? Rahane, Dhawan, Vijay, Tiwary, Yuvraj, Raina, Saha, Irfan, Dinda, Vinay, Awana are almost certainly going to play. I'd just have Bist as the 12th player--maybe him ahead of Vijay and that's about it. Other than that, a very good selection.

Posted by Nayel_19 on (October 24, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

Now its a sign of how tracks will be....good for KP though, he will face Yuvi atleast..

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

Does anyone know why Varun Aaron is not in the picture? Unless he is injured, he should have been given a game in the India A squad!

Posted by TontonZolaMoukoko on (October 24, 2012, 8:43 GMT)

This is a bit disappointing from the Indians. I can understand the reasoning and I don't expect Harbhajan/Ojha/Ashwin to play but it does go against the old British view of fair play. We don't put substandard 'A' teams out to face touring teams so why should we get the same treatment?

Posted by Kken on (October 24, 2012, 8:43 GMT)

Tiwary for test? Saha and Dinda again? Really? And the generous run-giver Vinay Kumar again? Good to see no spinners- "keep em guessin". Good to see Awana but expected to see 1or 2 of recent U-19's guys

Posted by bharatputra83 on (October 24, 2012, 8:40 GMT)

Now this was uncalled for. It would have been great if both Rahane and Pujara were included in this A team. They would have got the exposure as well as the future resides with them. Other batsmen in the list have been more consistent in long matches than Yuvraj. Yuvraj already wasted a lot of chances. Rohit hasn't yet been tried in the longer format, so maybe some trick is being missed here. No spinners is an absolutely brilliant idea for this one. But the bowling department looks awfully weak.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:39 GMT)

Super decision by Indian selectors.. Good opportunity for a quality player like yuvraj..

Posted by MumbaiIndians10 on (October 24, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

A good team selection by sandip patil and co. smart decision by having no spninners

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

Daada Always Says That U r the next wizard for India

We r missing daada in NO.6 Position in Tests

But It will be a good replacement when U come for the Position of Maharaja, Yuvraj

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

Where is badrinath???Worst selection...Why was he drafted in the indian squad in 1st place and why is he is out of even india A squad now???

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:35 GMT)

Looks like a good selection and not a bad thought to leave out specialist spinners though Tiwary and Yuvraj can bowl decently this will be a Challenge for Indian Pace bowlers to get the England Batsmen out.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

Now we can expect a rank turner tracks for this series. Good job BCCI.. :)

Posted by Shaikhzaid on (October 24, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

That is good selection that not including spinners in the sqaud because spinners is main problem for England

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:33 GMT)

Good move, not playing a spinner. Don't know much of a difference that will make in the end, but worth a try.

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:31 GMT)

intelligent move by selectors which could backfire if english eam gains confidence on indian pitches by scoring against seamers

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:28 GMT)

No spinner.. :O. Are u kidding me...

Posted by   on (October 24, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

intelligent selection to not give them match practice against spin..

Posted by pvwadekar on (October 24, 2012, 8:24 GMT)

why are Raina, M Vijay, vinay kumar and Abhinav Mukund in this team ? England can't play in the subcontinent and these guys will get some runs/ wickets and then get included in the test side and then go abroad and not perform at all .. on a positive note it is good that Parvinder Awana is included .. he should play in this game ahead of the the million dollar baby vinay kumar ..

Posted by venkatesh018 on (October 24, 2012, 8:20 GMT)

9 batters, 1 keeper and 4 pacemen. Not a single spinner in the squad ! All the signs are that England are going to get pitches turning square in this series.

Posted by bighit14 on (October 24, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

No specialist spinner in India A squad? Ojha and Ashwin are sure to play in team, but Harbhajan could have been given a chance in India A squad.

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