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Break from captaincy will benefit Dhoni - Gavaskar

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December 27, 2012

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MS Dhoni swings his arms, India v England, 2nd Twenty20 international, Mumbai, December 22, 2012
Sunil Gavaskar on MS Dhoni: "He needs time to reflect on his game and come back in a better way." © BCCI
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Former India captain Sunil Gavaskar believes it would do MS Dhoni good to take "a break" from the India captaincy. Dhoni, Gavaskar said, could keep his place in the team as a player, and use the time away from the responsibilities and pressures of leading India to "reflect on his game".

"It's still early days as far as 2015 World Cup is concerned, and I believe that a break in captaincy will do wonders for Dhoni," Gavaskar told Indian news channel NDTV. "I am not saying that it has to happen during the middle of a series but maybe after the Australia series [in February] or later part of 2013."

Gavaskar's comments came after a difficult 18 months for Indian cricket, during which Dhoni's team was whitewashed in Test series in England and Australia and lost a home Test series for the first time in eight years. Following the high of the 2011 World Cup triumph, they have also not enjoyed any significant success in limited-overs cricket, failing to make the finals of the CB tri-series in Australia and the Asia Cup, and exiting in the second round of the World Twenty20.

While Dhoni's calm under duress is a positive according to Gavaskar, he said that Dhoni needed to rethink his game: "He needs time to reflect on his game and come back in a better way. I am very impressed with the manner [in which] he remains cool and unlike other captains doesn't clap and all, but a little break won't be bad.

"Captaining India is a privilege but the demands and pressures that come with it are incredible ... He can be part of the team [without being captain] for the next couple of years as he is a match-winner."

Following India's Test defeat at home against England earlier this month, Gavaskar had said batsman Virat Kohli looked ready to take over the Test captaincy. Now, he reiterated that Kohli had the qualities required to lead India. "I could be wrong but Virat Kohli might bring the flair of Tiger Pataudi in his captaincy. If he knows that he will be appointed for the long term, he has the dynamism, the aggression, panache and class.

"I like everything about him apart from his mouthing abuses when he reaches a milestone. I don't want him to change anything else, as he can bring in a lot of dynamism."

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Posted by   on (December 30, 2012, 4:50 GMT)

Unmukt Chand and Shikhar Dhawan should be groomed as the next openers. Dhoni should play at no3 and kohli at no4. Dhoni can be the attacking no3 like Ponting and not a defensive no3 like Dravid. We need someone to take the attack to the opponents. Dhoni can play as an allrounder and let Saha or Parthiv keep wickets. Dhoni batting at no7 or 8 in tests is an absolute waste of his explosive batting talent.

Posted by khurdum on (December 29, 2012, 8:45 GMT)

I don't agree with Gavaskar. He is always after somebody who put his leg on his tail. Dhoni is the best Captain in respect of fighting skill and individual performance during crisis. Say about the latest T20 match on 28 Dec,12. In ODI's he is going to perform well to stop mouth of gav and others. It is not very difficult to understand gav and his feelings. He is so ordinary that he feels jealous like any other common man in india. He wanted others to hear him and obey when he used to play under the Captaincy of others. One Captain didn't listen to him. Gavaskar got angry. He scored 39 runs in 60 overs -created history remaining not out in that game- but india lost.

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 29, 2012, 0:31 GMT)

Dhoni is politically correct speaking captain. Somehow he escapes regionlism issue in that you can't tell him he is supporting player from south or north. Dhoni is not tactically brilliant captain. he is adequate in tactics. Issue for me is this , players stops playing for him. He can win here and there but against top level teams , his team is not fighting. When team do not fight captain has to go. I do not mind losing as long as we fight and lose. We did object surrender in 10-losses. Not even a sense of fight , Sehwag is bigger culpirit in that he got affected by dhoni's ego and self destructed. if sehwag wanted dhoni to lose he could have batted defensively and india could have still lost. Throwing your wicket and say this is the way i bat do not make sense to me. I really want gambhir to be given chance in Test before kohli takes over. Dhoni needs to be dropped from Test and replaced by Dinesh karthik. Also i will keep gambhir as ODI / T20 captain.

Posted by Ms.Cricket on (December 28, 2012, 23:41 GMT)

For once in recent years Gavaskar has spoken some sense. Dhoni should be retained as captain but told to take a break for a specified period. And IPL should be diluted to allow Indian players to remain fresh.

Posted by Nampally on (December 28, 2012, 22:41 GMT)

@Alex400: You did a Ha,Ha on Dhoni, Sehwag & Gambhir but thought Kohli may be a captaincy material. Did you look up who has better batting average between Pujara, Ashwin & Kohli? These are the 3 guys who will be in the Test side and are all approximately the same age. Pujara leads Kohli by a Mile in batting averages, technique & temperament as a Test class batsman. Pujara also has some Captaincy experience as has Tiwary. Kohli has no captaincy experience. Furthermore Kohli needs to take some courses on (1) Anger Management (2) Diplomacy & language refinement. Pujara does not need those courses nor do Tiwary or Ashwin. So these are the 3 potential candidates for future Indian Captaincy if one goes by some basis. If you go by "Gut feeling", like Gavaskar, then unless your guts have eyes, you will fail. Excellent Cricketing ability & Knowledge + Tempered attitude + Leadership by making things happen, are the Captaincy qualities.Very few have them all. Pujara has most of them +dedication.

Posted by riverbaby11 on (December 28, 2012, 21:48 GMT)

Nonsense! there is no one else who can captain this team and command a place in all three formats. Yuvi may be but they don't let him play Tests ,So let Dhoni captain the side and leave Virat alone to make runs.He is too young and important for this team.Dhoni may not be doing well ,but he is more hardworking than Sehwag and less ignorant than Gambhir :-). If Dhoni needs a break from captaincy he needs to take it during IPL. I am sure Chennai can find another bad captain for a month.

Posted by Nampally on (December 28, 2012, 18:56 GMT)

Irrespective of what Gavaskar says, the Fans have been howling to get rid of Dhoni since the 8-0 whitewash in 2 tours abroad. Many fans have also called for 3 different captains for 3 formats. It is about time the Selectors do this. For Example: Pujara (Tests), Dhoni (ODI), Yuvraj or Raina (T-20). This makes the team more streamlined & format dedicated. Right now S.Nadeem is the best T20 bowler & he is not even seen on the Radar. Get individuals specific to a format. It should start with the Captaincy followed by individuals best suited for each format. That is the only way India will have intensity in each team. Dhoni cannot work in all 3 formats even if he had the ability to be a good captain. Pushing personal favourites must stop. It is time to choose the best guys for each format so that the Team India benefits. Nepotism & Favouritism must stop & even the Legends need to be honest to themselves & to Team India.Honestly, Kohli as a Test Captain is mockery of the job M Sunil Gavaskar

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 28, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Problem is options. If we had better options , we would have replaced dhoni after 8-0 loss. No one in the world cricket can with stand 10-0 loss. Loss after loss. He has godfather in n srinivasan who keep him in the job for his own economical benefits. He is a hypocrite. He blamed Modi for all bad things in IPL and he does same thing in different way. Sehwag is utter waste as captain , his brainless comments will start war. Hahaha. Gambhir batting is iffy nowadays and he is emotional and still angry. Hahaha. He is best stop gap bet as captain for me. Kohli is a captaincy material. I wonder his batting suffers because if he becomes captain india loses , he explodes badly and will affect his batting. And then no one else. This is why Dhoni is lucky in that no real opposition even when his mojo deserted him. One thing i give to him though, even things are ugly in 10-0 , he handled situation in calmly as good as any captain ever. But for me he has to go. We need to experiment creatively.

Posted by   on (December 28, 2012, 16:12 GMT)

well Dhoni has to be removed from captainship to have sense of discipline in Indian teamtemporarily removal is not good for captain. Gambhir will make lot better captain than Kohli. Gavaskar is getting old and is losing his balanced judgement.he failed to advise Sachin to retire in time .Now definitely Sachin is ranked second best player India has produced after Dravid. He clearly lost the chance of remaining best Indian player ever. If he continue to play than he may be ranked even after Gavaskar.

Posted by   on (December 28, 2012, 15:52 GMT)

The problem with a mishmash country like India is that regionalism will always prevail no matter what. For people supporting MSD, it appears that a lot of them do not really understand cricket! Test cricket is completely different to ODIs and T-20. MSD is a good ODI and T20 player and understands the game instinctively, but is completely out of his depth at the test level and it shows. People criticising SMG and even citing his own captancy records, all I can say is that the man was a legend at the test level and a shrewd strategic captain. Blessed with a pop gun attack and a single world class bowler who also happened to be one of the best allrounders ever, SMG's reliance on a defensive mindset was completely understandable. But when the opportunity presented itself, he could go on the attack (remember B&H WSC 1985 down under??). The man knows what he is talking about. MSD sadly is dragging India down. No other captain has lost 10 tests out of 13 and remained in charge.

Posted by   on (December 28, 2012, 15:19 GMT)

With all respects to Suni Gavaskar, I don't agree that Dhoni is the problem. Today he once again showed that he is only a fraction of a problem. He has good players, who must grow up and come the party "properly attired" with all guns blazing. The anti-Dhonis are just like the anti-Smiths of South Africa. Today's result could have gone any way. Dhoni missed a stumping like any human could have done, then he made amends with a superb stumping - and his batting came in very useful too. Stop going after Dhoni, go after his eleven players and motivate them to greater heights. From Cape Town South Africa.

Posted by bobmartin on (December 28, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

There seems to be a lot of support for Dhoni, most of it based on the past achievements of the Indian team during his reign as captain. What this conventiently forgets is that he has also been captain during it's fall from #1 in the test rankings to #5.. during which time the team has been thumped in England and Australia and lost a home series. His captaincy is anything but inspirational and his batting and keeping are hardly top class. One does begin to wonder how far Indian test cricket has to further fall before the selectors feel enough is enough.

Posted by here2rock on (December 28, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

I have to agree with Gavaskar. Dhoni is a human after all, it is just too much for the man. He is captaining India not only in all formats of the game but also his IPL franchisee in the IPL and in the the Champions league. There are a lot of options for Dhoni, only he can decide as to how much does he want to take on. He could quit one format of the game, most likely ODIs as T20s are financially more rewarding. In my opinion he should definitely quit Test Match Cricket, he is not cut out for that format, if not all together then just captaincy. Administrator can also reduce the length of the IPL to 30 days and get rid of Champions League (However this is highly unlikely considering the amount of money involved).

Posted by Cricketgala on (December 28, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

Dhoni should need a break not from captaincy, but from cricket for some time till he regains confidence to bat long...I beg Mr.Dhoni to retire from Test cricket and just play T20 and ODI with your friends Ashwin, Raina, Jadeja....Ok....Please quit test cricket immediately and get some break from cricket.

Posted by SVicious on (December 28, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

I completely disagree with the comments made here by SG. You cant give someone a break, play them in the team and then bring them back - not from something like captaincy. If Dhoni were to sit out of a complete series as he did against West Indies then it makes sense to try out a new captain in Kohli. This is a time of significant transition within the Indian team and Dhoni needs to see it through. We need to identify the new captain so that he is able to learn under Dhoni. The ideal candidate is Kohlil. No other player fits the bill. 9 of 10 times I have disagreed with Gavasker, because more often than not, his thought process has been too short sighted. His record as captain speak volumes of his inability to provide judgement at this level. So to sum things up, 1st thing to change is Duncan Fletcher as coach. We need someone that can advise Dhoni on finer strategic decisions in the course of play and DF does not have that clearly. 2nd - a transition plan for a new captain confirmed.

Posted by Masud_BITK on (December 28, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

Yes, I agree that Dhoni needs some free time. Spiting captaincy may help but Dhoni is still the best captain fro Indian team. Gautam Gambhir may be appointed as Test Captain while Dhoni is for T20 and ODI. Dhoni does also require some rest in between the games. During that time - Captaincy may swap between Kohli, Shewag and Yuvraj. But I remain the suppor to Dhoni for the captaining if he is in the team.

Posted by Shazli on (December 28, 2012, 10:25 GMT)

Yup, Dhoni should go and spent some time with his family....then comeback....or he should continuing playing domestic cricket of ipl....As far Kholi ...... he need to perform and establish himself before taking any responsibility..... Yvi will be good option i think and Raina.....

Nice said "I like everything about him apart from his mouthing abuses when he reaches a milestone" just assume if he get captaincy of indian team then when he will do....he should change totally.....

Posted by srinideva on (December 28, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

yes, it is time to give rest to mr.gavaskar. Nowadays he is making some awful comments including this one.

Posted by sweetspot on (December 28, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

Kohli may have been the ideal kiddy captain for the U-19 team, but he remains annoyingly immature in a man's world. There is absolutely nothing to suggest he is tactically a genius of some sort either. With his habit of going off the handle so easily, if anything, captaincy could make his batting suffer. Dhoni has shown that a leader with equanimity is the best for India. I can't see why Ashwin cannot be considered for the job. He is shaping up rather well, is a thoughtful and articulate lad, and can be trusted with using his brains and staying calm under pressure.

Posted by shinewindies on (December 28, 2012, 7:32 GMT)

Well this is the hot topic going around in cricketing circles now a days, i dont think India would ever get a flamboyant captain like Sourav Ganguly, i also respect and admire Dhoni for the levels he took Team India to, bbut folks we all know captaining India is one of the most toughest jobs on the planet, Dhoni was brilliant, is brilliant and will remain brilliant, but yes i agree he should give up captaincy now and mark my words once he does that Dhoni of old will be back, not to say his batting is bad now, a new captain with new ideas and attitude will bring freshness to the team whether that will result in test victories on ly god knows but still that should be done.

T20 captain- Yuvraj Singh. One Day Captain- Yuvraj Singh. Test Captain- Gautam Gambhir.

I dont think we have any other options apart from these 2 right now.

Through thick and Thin always, SHINEINDIA.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 28, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

There are several areas where the current IndianTest side compares poorly with others in the five-strong group of major Test playing nations; crucially, captaincy is one of them. Although wealthier than the other four put together, MSD is the least effective of all of the 2012 crop of captains, IMO. Above all, a captain needs to inspire his team to higher levels: Clarke, Cook, Smith & Misbah can all claim to have performed well or exceedingly well & all have lifted their teams. India under MSD have been heading in the opposite direction. I think that India is beginning to understand this, but who can know how the BCCI (not the same as India in this instance) feels about their man?

Posted by soumyas on (December 28, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

Forget dhoni and forget his friend Jadeja, get some talented cricketers like U Chand, Rayudu, Dhavan in team...Gambhir or Kohli will do the Captain's job.

Posted by dude14 on (December 28, 2012, 7:17 GMT)

Dhoni was handed over with the responsibililty of captaincy in the year 2007 from the great Saurav Ganguly. At that point of time, the team was well built and there was inclusion of most of the senior playersa like Dravid, Laxman, Kumble and Sachin. Dhoni just had to marshall his troops around and milestomnes were being achieved. Now, with the retirement of all the senior members, the team has gone into re-building stage. This is a real test for Dhoni. Giving the captaincy at such stage to some other player like Kohli, Pujara, Gambhir or Sehwag, would disturb the entire redevelopment of the team. Dhoni is trying his level best to win all the series be it ODIs or Tests; but we cant blame Dhoni alone for nonperformance of the rest of the players. Each player represents the nation and to my view, if any player is a part of playing 11, each one of them should be well aware and clear about his role and responsibility in the side.

Posted by 777aditya on (December 28, 2012, 6:56 GMT)

If Dhoni can become the super aggressive cricketer in limited overs he once was, I am all for captaincy change. I would try Ashwin for tests, because unlike the previous selector from Chennai, he appears quite sorted out and cerebral. The brash and young Kohli can start of as a captain in T20s. Yuvraj was discussed upon before Dhoni became captain. Now the time is ripe to make him ODI captain - he is in good shape, form, and the right spirit - he certainly has everyone's respect now not only for his cricketing ability, but also the way he fought against cancer. He is a fighter and the inspiration we need!

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (December 28, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

Make gambhir captain for 2 years (until we groom pujara). Kholi is not matured enough to handle the big team and the expectations. Pujara has the temperament and could be a worthy leader. Also time to follow the rotational policy at the top order (to find replacement for sehwag) and lower order (num 6 is still up for the grabs). As for dhoni we might give him another chance as wicketkeeper batsmen and if he fails get some one else.

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (December 28, 2012, 6:53 GMT)

Dhoni should be got rid of completely as a captain. He won a lot of India,no doubt, but that was when he was lucky. Just two illustrations. He won the WC 20/20 in 2007 when India had never ever played that format domestically and with a bunch of youngsters. The image that endures is of Dhoni's 'masterstroke' of giving the last over to Yadav. And Sreesanth was there as if pre-ordained to take the scoop from Misbah.Against Australia in Mohali, Laxman and the tail managed to add nearly 100 for a victory with just Ishant and Ojha for company. The fact that his luck has run out can be seen in the many disastrous moves he has made as captain, including his pitch related utterances. The other day he gave the last over to Jadeja. If India had won it would have been deemed the same 'masterstroke' and he would have been resurrected.It did not just as giving Kohli the ball when Pakistan was under some plessure proved to be the turning point of the match. India will lose as long as Dhoni remains.

Posted by SamRoy on (December 28, 2012, 6:34 GMT)

I will give test captaincy and ODI captaincy to Pujara. Ashwin should be test vice-captain and No. 6 batsman (a lot better batsman than Yuvraj, Raina). Pujara has been doing pretty well in domestic ODI scene so should play ODI cricket for India. Raina can be T20 captain. Kohli is a hothead who doesn't seem to improve his behavior even with added responsibility (vice captaincy).

Posted by Abimanyucbe on (December 28, 2012, 6:27 GMT)

No one is capable enough to lead the Indian team other than Dhoni, We can have big hitters in the place of dhoni, but we cant have better Captain to replace him....... I think sunny wants to be in the Front line of the News every time..........thats why he is giving so much un necessary statements............

Posted by Nadeem1976 on (December 28, 2012, 6:02 GMT)

Dhoni has achieved every thing as captain and he don't look motivated to win. he is just playing for the sake of playing. he has no goals. he won T2020 WC. ODI WC and then stayed #1 in test cricket for a year. what else a captain dream of.

I think it's time for dhoni to play as regular player because he was lethal when he was not captain. Dhoni Sachin played better when he was not captain you can do it too. you are too good a player. It's been a long long time that you have not scored more than 100 in ODI cricket. Man you scored freaking 186 in your early years. Come back as batsman and show the aggression. It's time to say good by to captaincy.

Posted by miraly1 on (December 28, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

Gavaskar needs a very very long break from commenting and commentary as well:)

Posted by suhailisaac on (December 28, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

Virat has proved an asset over the year. He has got everything that make him a future Leader. This is one bastman will remain challenge for the potent pakistani bowling in the years to come.

Posted by jimbond on (December 28, 2012, 5:10 GMT)

Kohli isn't good as yet to be in the test team, let alone be the captain. Sorry Sunny, but a batsman with an average of 38 in tests (half of which were played in the subcontinent) is not good enough to remain. The fact that he continues to be given a chance is indicative of the unimaginative selection panel. Possibly he is talented and deserves another chance, but dont talk of burdening him with captaincy. And I doubt whether he has the maturity and the inter-personal skills to captain such a team. His public behaviour isnt indicative of maturity at least. I wish the ex- Indian players wouldnt talk in this language. In my opinion it would be best if they choose the team first and then select one of them (preferably a behaviourally mature player) as captain for a series. Possibly make Kohli a vice captain if he figures in the team.

Posted by Chris_P on (December 28, 2012, 5:05 GMT)

Come on Sunny, giving the captaincy tags to someone who never agrees with umpires decisions, can't control his emotions & fires up everyone around him the responsibility of India's next test captain? Good luck with that one, it will be entertaining for us if nothing else.

Posted by DELHISANKAR on (December 28, 2012, 4:49 GMT)

Yes. I agree with this idea. This move will be helpful for team India and MS. Kohli is fit for leading team India. If it happens we can see old Dhoni with full of aggression and more big innings.

Posted by g.narsimha on (December 28, 2012, 4:11 GMT)

ASIACRICKET 1234-Agreed he done wonders for INDIAN cricket , but for the few months begening with the desastrueos ENG tourhis personal contribution is nothing compared MAT PRIOR, he should also be blamed for his blunders in team selections his obssesion with certain non performers is main reasons for present days debacles , in the lastmatch i cant understand why he gave bowling to kohli &jadeja, the end result known to all.more over his tuussel with match winner , senior like SAHWAAG adversly affecting the team couse it is high time start finding altrnative to DHONI ,as now a it can be seen he is failing with bat also.

Posted by nthuq on (December 28, 2012, 3:53 GMT)

@Asiacricket1234, if you rate Graeme Smith as a good captain, or even one better than Dhoni, it's clear you don't know what a good captain is. The one thing Graeme Smith has going for him is the unrivaled respect he receives from his players, but tactically, he's like Dhoni in that he lets games drift. Anyone watching the first half of the South Africa-Australia test series recently would see this. Luckily for Smith, he's always had a brilliant pace battery to create opportunities for him. Unluckily for Dhoni, right now he has nothing.

Posted by TATTUs on (December 28, 2012, 3:43 GMT)

Sunil Gavaskar really cares for his saleability and for his ego, not much for Indian cricket. That said, Dhoni really needs to take a break from test captaincy at least. By himself or by selectors taking some decisions.

Posted by fjedai on (December 28, 2012, 2:46 GMT)

Kohli is not captain material. Gambhir is fit for the job.

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 28, 2012, 2:43 GMT)

I want to get rid of dhoni completely. It does two things. No one look behind back all the time. I remove dhoni from TESTS. ODI i keep him wicket keeper batsman because he does best in that job. What is this nonsense break crap. Just say you are removed because you have been ineffective in TEST and we want to get younger people captaining team for future. He has to go.

Posted by henchart on (December 28, 2012, 2:17 GMT)

Captaincy has to be given to level headed person .Great cricketers need not necessarily make good captains eg Lara,Tendulkar,Kapil and Botham .There have been exceptions like Ponting and Waugh but they were backed by excellent bowlers like Mcgrath ,Warne and Gillespie.Why not make someone like Ashwin captain?The guy is not temperamental and brings in Kumble like serenity.Kohli is immature and would end up paying half of his match fees for blowing his top more often than not if made captain.

Posted by harshizzle5 on (December 28, 2012, 2:00 GMT)

What India really needs is a bowler captain. That is the only way we will see wickets falling. Find a reliable bowler/all rounder and give him the captaincy as fast as possible. Until then, Dhoni will have to do the job.

Posted by Nampally on (December 28, 2012, 1:57 GMT)

I agree with Gavaskar that Dhoni needs to get out of Captaincy. But I strongly disagree with his replacement Choice. Dhoni succeeded because his great players made things happen. As soon as they failed, it exposed Dhoni's limitations. Kohli is a promising batsman not yet established player in the team. Pataudi was a fantastic Cricketer & had captained Oxford U. in England. As a captain he united the team & got the best out of it. He was a very cultured coming from a Royal family. Kohli uses blue language Galore & is very short tempered. He has ZERO captaincy experience at any level. Comparing him to Pataudi is like Chalk & cheese! If he is given responsibility he will fail in batting too. Pujara is the only balanced young man who is currently the best Indian test class batsman.He has captained India U-19 + India A. He has maturity to lead India & be successful.It was wrong to deny Pujara a Test spot after his fine 72 Vs. Aussies.It will be equally wrong to deny him the Test captaincy.

Posted by   on (December 28, 2012, 1:54 GMT)

Totaly agreed with Gavaskar, however, Dhoni should still captain the test side,and kohli can captain odi, and t20.

Posted by natasrik on (December 28, 2012, 1:52 GMT)

I think Gavaskar has become more vocal against Dhoni after Sachin's retirement from ODI. Maybe he think's Dhoni has a hand to do with Sachin's ODI retirement and as always the dream of 50 ODI century got shattered. Infact Gavaskar wants Sachin to play just for records as he has done earlier in his career. Infact he should take a leaf out of what the Australian does play for the team to win and not to create records and if in the process they can create records that is good and that's what has happened earlier to Ponting and now Clarke has done the same thing. So in my opinion Dhoni's contribution has got more towards team india's success which itself is a record as of now compared to his counterparts like, Ganguly, Dravid, Sachin and Kumble.

Posted by   on (December 28, 2012, 1:47 GMT)

Not sure gavaskar has got it right. Actually he has got it wrong altogether. No need to change the captain the issues remains with Indian bowling and batting - change people not performing - leave the captain as such

Posted by mshyder on (December 28, 2012, 1:31 GMT)

Gavaskar may be right about Dhoni, but Gavaskar has always been known for being calm, sober, sedate and mature. Recommending has 2 problems: A) He is temperamental, abusive, arrogant and brash and needs a major revamping in his behavior and attitude B) With this side at his disposal specially the weak and limited bowling department, he will also have little or no hope of delivering the desired winning results. Thus a good, long term captain will be wasted due to the ill timed decision to appoint him captain. Since the only other real candidate i.e. Gambhir is going through an extended bad patch and is barely able to hold on to his spot in the team, Kohli is the only viable option but may be he should be given some time to mature and improve his attitude. In the meantime the transition and experimental phase of the team would also pass and he would get a stable side to get an extended and fruitful leadership period.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 23:17 GMT)

As a Pakistani fan, I would want a competative Indian team. Someone said there is some infighting and grouping. Sehwag is not getting along and has some friends in the team. Pakistani cricket has had this issue for ages. Moreover, I agree with one of the above posts that there should be more and more cricket between the two countries. Politics should not come into sports and cricket always brings the two countries together.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 27, 2012, 23:04 GMT)

India can have 2, or maybe 3 different teams - one for each format. Dhoni is perfectly suited for ODI. For tests, BCCI should make Pujara captain after a year. In the mean time Gambhir can be stop gap captain. Kohli lacks maturity and diplomacy. Suresh Raina or Irfan Pathan can captain T20 team. Yuvraj is not captaincy material. BCCI should also try different bowlers for different formats. Bowlers like Pankaj Singh, Shami Ahmed, Sandeep Sharma, Ishwar Pandey, Rishi Dhawan have equal or better Ranji Trophy averages than Bhuvnesh Kumar. I am sure they will do well if they get a chance at the top level.

Posted by PSYGangnam on (December 27, 2012, 22:39 GMT)

Mr Gavaskar, you have made your point on more that one occasion,now it is time for you to move on to more important questions like the retirement of Tendulkar? When is Tendulkar going to exit from all forms and cricket ?? He has done nothing for the last 3 years and you sit there and say nothing ??

Posted by laxmanrules on (December 27, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

This is the time to be creative and make mistakes with selections. That is what the Indian team is doing with its bowling and we have Bhuvaneshwar. The same policy needs to be applied to our batting as well. We have always had mediocre bowlers but the form of batsmen has been hurting us in the last two years. Glad to see Pujara and Kohli cement their test spots.

However, more than two positions need filling. Waiting to see if Rayudu plays in place of Rohit next match. An intelligent batsman who can play both spin and swing attacking or defending. Just what we need from a number 4 batsman. Rohit is great when he gets going. He gets going one out of ten innings in limited overs. I say give Rayudu a shot Dhoni.

Posted by LeftBrain on (December 27, 2012, 22:14 GMT)

Dhoni past his sellby date long time ago. He may be a contender for selection in limited over games but certainly not a test material. India need to dig deep to find answers for their humiliation and losses in last two years, both in Asia (Asia Cup, T20 World cup, Eng series) and abroad (Aus, Eng). It is not only about captaincy, it is about wrong preferences and wrong choices over all. And if Kohli is the best India can look for as a captain, problems are even bigger then they seem.

Posted by bsanga on (December 27, 2012, 21:59 GMT)

I don't how the people on this forum says "its bowlers fault or batsman fault and how can we blame Dhoni"..when we won matches..its becoz of dhoni captaincy..if we lost the its players fault..why don't we understand win or lose both are becoz of players only..captain is just 10%..and the point here is as a player dhoni should never get a place in T20 and Tests...he is only fit and can play ODIs..just becoz of him being a captain he is in side..and also the worst part thing abt this team is no one else is suitable for captain..that is the only reason dhoni is continuing as captain..otherwise should have been dropped after 8-0

Posted by bobmartin on (December 27, 2012, 21:46 GMT)

Successful test captains don't wait for things to happen... they make them happen. Only those with the luxury enjoyed by the likes of Ponting in Australia's heyday can sit back and know his bowlers will roll teams over and his batsmen will score the necessary runs. The great Richie Benaud once said something like, when nothing is happening, do whatever you think the batsmen least expects. Dhoni tends to let things slide and always gives the appearance that he either lacks the knowledge or the nerve to do the unexpected. That's why he will never be spoken of as a great captain.

Posted by CricketChat on (December 27, 2012, 21:44 GMT)

But for some sporadic useful score or two, Dhoni has been below par for close to 2 yrs in all forms. Without the security of captaincy, I don't think he can command a regular place in the team either as a WK or a batsman (bec he isn't specialist in either). I think Ind selectors should groom someone younger to replace MS starting now. No tried and discarded players like, Patel/D. Karthik etc. please. Even though I don't think Kohli should be burdened with captaincy when he is barely finding his feet at the top level, I don't see anyone better to lead. Gambhir and Shewag are no answer as they themselves are on the verge of being dropped at any time.

Posted by LillianThomson on (December 27, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

I'd like India to have a proper clear-out.

Firstly, they should move out the likes of Sehwag, Tendulkar, Dhoni, Harbhajan and Zaheer who are deteriorating with advanced age.

Secondly, they should appoint Kohli or Pujara as Test captain.

Thirdly, they should ensure that Pakistan Tests, ODIs and T20s are scheduled each year, on lively wickets, as that is where they learn about the character and resistance to stress of their players.Not the boring Pakistan run-fests of yesteryear, but tough games on difficult wickets.

If they did this, they could be competitive again very, very quickly.

Posted by EPSNCricinfoFANatic on (December 27, 2012, 21:24 GMT)

agree with some points mentiones.. i feel Dhoni will give himself a break, but right now, he needs a good bowler and gautam and rohit sharma look out of sorts.. esp the latter as has the skills but not the mental strength of responsibilty.. which brings me to out last game.. we we told 8 batsmen so go for more runs, not realising on an individual basis that playing with responsibilty in the middle is needed as you have to use your own cricketing brain on the field when batting as cant be instructed each ball from the Pavalian via the skipper.. losing the first game will cost india. I am a huge fan and belief in india and their talent even when the results say otherwise. consistency comes down to eveything falling into plae time after time.. the BCCI being private may have something to do with our downfalll. money means more in this capitalist age rather than a countries honour, im afraid cricket lovers.. but keep believing, the game is still beautiful.. enjoy the match.

Posted by ak_dragon on (December 27, 2012, 21:24 GMT)

Give captaincy to Virat....& it will create the same situation when tendulkar got Captaincy after Azhar...!

Posted by asiacricket1234 on (December 27, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

I dont understand why some people are so much against Dhoni??? If the bowlers arent good enough to take wicket is that Dhoni's fault? If the batsmen cant score run what can Dhoni do? He is the best captain India had in a long time. He won two World Cup for India and took India to No 1 spot in test. Asking to make Kohli a Captain is a joke. That guy has a maturity of a year 5 kid. If he become captain & see that his bowler cant take wicket knowing his temper he is gonna beat up his own team mate. What if his batting form falls because of extra responsibility??? If India wanna win matches than they should find bowler that can take wicket, batsman that can score outside of IPL. With this team you can borrow Graeme Smith as captain you'll still lose matches :/

Posted by Fantasy_Cricket on (December 27, 2012, 20:16 GMT)

Break in captaincy for Dhoni = Kohli captain. Kohli captain = break in his batting. Kohli being captain can work either way, really

Posted by ksrajavel87 on (December 27, 2012, 20:09 GMT)

Are they afraid of get sacked by BCCI if they directly say dhoni must be sacked from captaincy.. Dhoni is destroying the indian cricket. still india BCCI want to back him due to WC winning, then i dont see india winning any series in future away or home series.. Hope pakistan will win the next match and ODI,s too for the sack of indian cricket welfare.

Posted by AdityaUpadhyay on (December 27, 2012, 19:22 GMT)

Dhoni is going the Ponting way...The way Ponting stuck to Captaincy even after so many Ashes failures & WC11 failure , Dhoni is on the same page too. Both players denied a goos thorough self examination.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 19:21 GMT)

I agree it is time to move on from Dhoni.But sadly there is no replacement .Sehwag Gambhir are in woeful form and gambhir actually deserves to be dropped.Sehwag should be tried lower down the order.Kohli is too new in the game and has a lot to learn He should focus on improving his batting rather than captaincy.Sadly there is no replacement available.I would rather blame the transition phase, IPL and bad selection decisions from former selection panel as the main reasons for the debacle. Right move is to make Kohli captain in T20 with immediate effect and slowly uprading him to ODI leadership and 2 years from now making him the Test captain.If sehwag lower down the order scores runs then make him the captain

Posted by 9966545244 on (December 27, 2012, 19:16 GMT)

if dhoni gives away his captency.... he will never have a place in the squad.... better bring n.ojha or dinesh karthik insted of dhoni.... and when comes to captency sehwag nor gambhir.... or else ahwhin who came into the lime lite of the commentators abt the captency... one thing i wanna say ashwin is not at all bothering og wickets in tests... he is a better bowler in t20's bt not at all i tests... better give chance to kohli or else if possible pujara.... my test team will be 1. rahane 2. sehwag 3. pujara 4. kohli 5. rohit sharma/manoj tiwari 6. naman ojha/d.karthik 7 irfan pathan 8 spinner 9 pankaj singh 10 bhuvaneswar kumar 11 umesh yadav

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 19:12 GMT)

It is not the right way of telling every time on Dhoni to quit the captaincy after the every match loss..we could not expect anyone else in his place as he done. We forgetting the the world cups in his captaincy because of his captaincy..that time you were praised him a lot..We should accept that we don't have right balanced team, Everyone is telling about with last match with pakistan, Dhoni has not picked Aswini or chawla..But even that was not balanced in the fielding (Jadeja saved many runs in his fielding, isn't it). We should have balanced team to win the matches, i hope there is no faulty in captaincy.

Posted by svenkat02 on (December 27, 2012, 18:50 GMT)

@pandez: The emotions of a million people are at fault, NOT DHONI! Who asked you to put all your emotions on a game of cricket involving a private organization team (BCCI is a private organization) which has players who are Indians? Dhoni will do what he feels like. He has been given the responsibility, and his judgement has been trusted by his employers (BCCI). So if at all someone needs to do something, it should be the BCCI and their appointed workers (i.e. the selectors).

Posted by navinaresh on (December 27, 2012, 18:49 GMT)

How can gavaskar calling kohli for test, who played only 17 test and still he has not cemeted his place, remove dhoni totally from test team anf t20, give test captaincy to sehwag and bring back DINESH KARTHIK as wicket keeper batsman, and select Nojha for T20s or else ask rayudu to keep, sunny gavaskar every time backing dhoni because we all know that reason, Sehwag is the right person for test captain, India #1 in test ranking when sehwag is in peak form, his aggressive batting helped in many test matches which we are won.

Posted by Cricket_Man on (December 27, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Dhoni, if isn't the captain, then he should not be in the team too because India has got much better wicket keeper batsmen than him.

Posted by snbirdi on (December 27, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

Why is there such an obsession with CAPTAINCY and not the whole team and nation's well being? All those rift rumors a while back between Sehwag and Dhoni, weren't they also about Sehwag wanting captaincy?

Learn from your neighbors gentlemen. Both Sangakkara and Jayawardene were quick to give up captaincy as soon as they felt a slump in their performance so a younger captain could be molded FOR THE TEAM'S GOOD. Heck, Sangakkara gave up captaincy after he took his team to a wold cup final. Dhoni's mentality is scaring me about our team's future.

Posted by   on (December 27, 2012, 17:58 GMT)

I agree with the legend's comments. Dhoni's definately needs a break from Captaincy may be not from Test arena. BCCI should seriously consider alternative captain's role fpr T20 and ODI and let Dhoni concentrate on the Test Captaincy which will allow him to concentrate better given the ICC's Future Tours Hectic programme.

Posted by pandez on (December 27, 2012, 17:54 GMT)

Don't understand why our experts are not being straight forward when giving opinion to sack Dhoni. He is playing with emotions of millions of people. Look at how he justified the selection of Ashwin by saying he too goes for runs in the death over, what impact its going to make on one of the top upcoming player not only the bowler. Dhoni loves playing video game and sorry to say he has make the Indian cricket a game.

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