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IPL snub led to BCCI's county refusal

Nagraj Gollapudi

February 9, 2013

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Sunil Narine, the Player of the Tournament, is carried by his team-mates, Kolkata Knight Riders v Chennai Super Kings, IPL 2012, final, Chennai, May 27, 2012
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A hard line adopted by the Indian board towards English county players practising in India has its roots in a much deeper dispute arising from the ECB's refusal to allow IPL teams to play exhibition matches in Ireland and Scotland.

The ECB holds the broadcast rights for both Ireland and Scotland and used its right of veto over televised fixtures in those countries to prevent what it saw as IPL infiltration on its own territory.

This dispute over territorial rights flared up again recently when seven counties intending to send players to the Global Cricket School, a privately-run academy in Mumbai, switched instead to Sri Lanka after the ECB and GCS officials advised the counties that potential visa issues made this the best course of action.

The counties - Yorkshire, Durham, Kent, Hampshire, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire and Nottinghamshire - failed to receive permission to visit India from a muted BCCI as a stand-off between the Indian and England boards failed to be resolved.

Tensions surfaced at the end of the fifth IPL last year when the BCCI approached both Cricket Ireland and Cricket Scotland directly, to check if they were interested in playing exhibition matches against a team of IPL players from different franchises.

It is understood that Cricket Ireland's initial response to the offer was that they did not have sufficient funds to host the matches. In response, the BCCI said it would underwrite the players' costs and that the arrangement would therefore be financially attractive.

However, ESPNcricinfo has learned that the ECB then refused to sanction the matches in any circumstances because it was concerned that its lucrative broadcasting deal with Sky TV, which guarantees exclusive TV coverage of cricket in England, Ireland and Scotland, could be undermined in the long term by the alternative attraction of an IPL side playing in Ireland. The Sky deal underpins the survival of first-class cricket in England.

Under the terms of the ECB's deal with Cricket Ireland for 2008-13, it gained ownership of media rights for all Ireland's home international matches. In return, Cricket Ireland receives an annual fee, the chance to play in some of England one-day competitions should it so wish and coaching support.

Details of the new TV deal have yet to be officially revealed, but it would be natural both for Cricket Ireland to want to maximise its income whilst maintaining healthy relationships with the ECB. In the meantime, it remains uncomfortably placed between two boards in conflict.

Asked to clarify their respective position, all the boards involved - BCCI, ECB, Cricket Ireland and Cricket Scotland - declined to discuss the issues publicly. But it is clear that the ECB and BCCI both viewed each other's behaviour as hostile.

A BCCI official did say, however, that although communication channels between the two boards had not been closed, the ECB had a lot to explain before English county sides could be automatically welcomed again for developmental visits to India.

The official said: "Discussions are still on but it has to be a two-way process. We can't see how we can allow the counties to send their players to practice here when the ECB refuses to allow the IPL players to play even in Ireland. They must explain why they did it."

Irked by the ECB refusal, the BCCI had assumed a tough stance of its own. Last November, the ECB was forced to apologise to the Indian board for not taking the necessary approvals for the England Performance Programme (EPP) squad's tour of India.

Simultaneously, the Indian board's secretary Sanjay Jagdale pulled up the Mumbai Cricket Association (MCA), demanding an explanation as to why the MCA had allowed the EPP to play games in Mumbai without gaining clearance from the Board.

In the letter dated November 29*, 2012, Jagdale noted: "The Chairman brought to the notice of the house that there were instances where foreign teams were invited by state associations to play matches and attend practice camps. He advised all members not to entertain any foreign team without the prior permission of the Board."

*11:59pm, February 9: The piece had initially stated that the letter by Sanjay Jagdale had been dated November 31, 2012. This has been corrected.

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by satishchandar on (February 11, 2013, 7:33 GMT)

While the whole world says - India should prepare fast bouncy tracks to develop the competancy abroad, why not say England to prepare slow and low tracks? If it is geographically and climatically not possible for them to do it, then same in reverse direction for India folks. With cricket in India promoted ONLY by BCCI, it is ECB's responsibility to ask their permission to practice in this nation. Will ECB allow BCCI's team to vcome over England for a period of time and play cricket for 3 months every year? No.. In fact, they banned Panesar to bowl to Sachin in nets in home series when he was not even in frame for selection. To be fair, everyone should be allowed to play everywhere. But this is not a fair world. If you are not giving to give an inch to anyone, don't demand inch from anyone.

Posted by themightyfenoughtys on (February 11, 2013, 1:51 GMT)

No matter what the BCCI believe, you can't sell the same thing twice. As usual they're petty and argumentative without actually leaving any positive legacy.

Posted by me54321 on (February 11, 2013, 0:44 GMT)

While I don't like the idea of the ecb blocking games in Ireland, it's pretty obvious the bcci's intentions are neither a charitable gesture towards Irish and Scottish cricket, or an attempt to open up the tiny Irish and Scottish cricketing markets. I would have to ask better informed people to know what their intentions were.

Posted by   on (February 10, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

Lets not hide it guys Ecb don't like IPL . U can check pietersen statements about Ecb liking it is only Ecb who is initially stopped eng players to play ipl on the excuse of playing county matches then bcci took now they don't want those English players who took stance that time.sending ur performance squad to any country where ur national team is already touring is undue advantage & that also without permission. Showing ur rights on another countries like Ireland ,Scotland & holland is also not a right thing if tomorrow ind promote cricket any region than India then is it india get right on them shame on u ecb

Posted by warneneverchuck on (February 10, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

ECB is destroying cricket by doin this. Not to forget how they r recruiting players from associate nations like Morgan into their team as ENG has never produced real talent like. Morgan trott KP panesar to name a few

Posted by   on (February 10, 2013, 12:48 GMT)

Good decision by BCCI. If ipl is denied to grow in ireland and scotland then bcci must never allow any english lad to play on indian soil unless its international tournament under icc jurisdiction.

Posted by MartinC on (February 10, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

@jimdavis - or instead of waiting for a statement you could read the article which explains the ECB pay a fee and provide coaching support and playing opportunities against County sides. Reading the article and THEN commenting is always a good idea.

Posted by reality_check on (February 10, 2013, 11:00 GMT)

@Dinesh Kerai. I don't think rest of the world has any problem with BCCI power. It's the abuse of power and my way or the highway attitude in BCCI that people don't like.

Posted by bobmartin on (February 10, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

I've just read this:- "The BCCI has been fined Rs 52.24 crore (US$10m approx) by the Competition Commission of India (CCI) for misusing its dominant position and indulging in anti-competitive practices." Surely this can't possibly be the same benevolent, liberal and philanthropic BCCI all you Indians in your millions are supporting... Someone please tell me it isn't...

Posted by gristy83 on (February 10, 2013, 10:05 GMT)

No big loss, looking at the rather poor state that Indian cricket is in right now I think the ECB should look elsewhere to get some competition for the upcoming youngsters in this country. The facilities in the UAE are fantastic by all accounts and the ECB already have a good relationship in place with them. Maybe get a few more games in against the Pakistani team as, right now, they are a far more significant threat than India are in our aim of becoming the number 1 Test side in the world.

Posted by JimDavis on (February 10, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

In between all the posturing about BCCI and ECB there are a couple of posts about the real issue which needs more elaboration by ECB, Cricket Ireland and cricinfo. What is the ECB offering Cricket Ireland to allow it to control tv coverage and national team fixtures in Ireland? Does Australia have veto over the tv coverage/national team fixtures of New Zealand, or South Africa of Zimbabwe? No they don't. So why does the ECB over Cricket Ireland. Do Ireland actually get something in return for the veto, or is it just an ancient right from a bygone era which the ECB abuse when it's in their own interest to do so? Until either Cricket Ireland or the ECB release a statement saying what Ireland get it return for this ECB veto, people can only guess.

Posted by   on (February 10, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

@ Sam - there is a major difference in BCCI allowing something in India. India is under the jurisdiction of the BCCI, whereas cricket in Ireland is goverened by Cricket Ireland.

Posted by MostCulturedAussieSirLesPatterson on (February 10, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

@ Bob Young - is it a corollary to your theory that the ECB is the most loved and respected?

Posted by Eskay13 on (February 10, 2013, 7:15 GMT)

Beyond a certain age, humans start growing younger by the day. The BCCI and the ECB are both being ruled by teanage brains in aging bodies. We need new, GROWN UP managers on both sides - people who can behave, think and speak like their experience levels suggest they should.

Posted by screamingeagle on (February 10, 2013, 6:42 GMT)

@clarke501. quoting from the article ''However, ESPNcricinfo has learned that the ECB then refused to sanction the matches in any circumstances because it was concerned that its lucrative broadcasting deal with Sky TV, which guarantees exclusive TV coverage of cricket in England, Ireland and Scotland, could be undermined in the long term by the alternative attraction of an IPL side playing in Ireland. The Sky deal underpins the survival of first-class cricket in England'' It is probably about TV rights, but the ECB has not said that. They just refused. Rest is conjecture both from cricinfo and the posters. It states that all three boards refused to comment. Bit strange that the Irish board gets almost nothing out of it, so they might have asked for more and ECB did not agree. That is just my view, maybe wrong. At the same time what you mention is also your interpretation, not fact.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (February 10, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

I hear people repeating it like a broken record - IPL is not cricket, IPL is not cricket. Dear Sirs, is IPL only not cricket or is entire 20-20 not cricket? What's your problem again with IPL that you guys choose to use the word IPL instead of 20-20? Sour grapes, Sirs? What was that again? Standord or Sanford 20-20? Was that cricket Sirs, duly supervised by ECB?? Just checking how sour the grapes have turned! You, Sirs, have good sense of humour....

Posted by DC75 on (February 10, 2013, 6:16 GMT)

Everybody seems to have issues with BCCI, most of the times rightly so, but not always. Why should BCCI fund DRS for cricket between say West Indies and Bangladesh - does not make sense to me. Just because BCCI has the money it is expected to sponsor an 'unproven' and ínconsistent' technology called DRS/Hot Spot. I would rather have BCCI spend that money in Indian cricket and get some quality openers and spinners (do not expect Indian fast bowlers). Any way England and Aus are interested only in ashes, they can play ashes and be happy about the future of test cricket and stop preaching what the rest of the world does (Aussies are way better in that they at least acknowledge other cricket boards and are sensible)

Posted by   on (February 10, 2013, 1:50 GMT)

ECB , just because they had a good run , they were crowned world champions in Test format but they too shamelessly lost it at home...ODI and T20 they are pathetic...its just a matter of time when their test performance will dip as well...Winning in India was not a big deal as we are also undergoing changes...BCCI has everyright to deny so called good county teams....i also fail to understand how come a board can prevent match from happening in other countries??....

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 10, 2013, 1:07 GMT)

@Bob Young: Statistically.. BCCI is the most loved cricket board. ECB will actually be the most hated.. but it isn't even a cricket board (as we all know now!)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 10, 2013, 1:05 GMT)

@Bob Young : Read your comment again.. just replace BCCI with ECB... fits perfectly!

Posted by bford1921 on (February 9, 2013, 23:50 GMT)

ECB has not banned IPL teams from playing in Ireland or Scotland, they have banned them from televising the games, as Sky has the rights to all televised cricket in Scotland and Ireland, as well as England. The article speculates this is down to a concern over the IPL somehow would be of greater interest than the local games. In this part of the world IPL is not of much interest, there are too few English players involved, and local communities have their own teams. NFL play matches at Wembley, but there is no local alternative. In India the IPL may well be a run away success, but that doesn't mean it is viewed as the greatest cricket option available everywhere. The BCCI refusing to allow English counties into India as a consequence is not a sign of maturity, particularly as a response to not getting their own way.

Posted by harishk19812007 on (February 9, 2013, 23:31 GMT)

Bob Young----come out of living in a small world of ECB or SKY, BCCI is not hated internationally but only by few ECB supporters who are creating lot of propaganda to defame BCCI and IPL and they not been successful even 5%........many of the cricketing boards around the world are being supported by BCCI and in every ICC meting its always that almost all the boards except ECB supports BCCI....for example DRS not being used as intended by ECB (which by the way has so many flaws)....sooooo get out of your small world and see things clearly

Posted by vxttemp on (February 9, 2013, 23:25 GMT)

ECB is running charity and improving cricket..BCCI is going for money.. I don't have to remind how ECB improved cricket over the past 100+ years and when BCCI was not a major force... I think people also forgot about the standford T20 competition saga attempted by ECB... Scotland and Ireland better get the funding from BCCI instead of ECB...

Posted by SirViv1973 on (February 9, 2013, 23:14 GMT)

@NumeroUno, I am in no way confused, I'm am well aware that the BCCI is the governing board of Indian cricket the same as the ECB is for Eng & CA is for Aus. I am also well aware that the governing board of Indian cricket is not the same as the host broadcaster who happens to be Star TV. The same way that Sky is the host broadcaster in Eng and is not the same as the ECB and the same that Channel 9 is the host broadcaster in Aus who are not the same as CA!

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 22:59 GMT)

The rest of the cricket world do not like Indian having power in cricket It was ok when the english had a say what happens in cricket now its india they do not like it thats the reason.

Posted by brusselslion on (February 9, 2013, 22:41 GMT)

The ECB's behaviour is regretable, however, as other posters have indciated their stance is down to commercial considerations. Unfortunately, all the world's cricket boards are bascally beholden to TV companies: Before any more Indian supporters climb on their high moral horses, they should ask themselves whether they think that the BCCI would do anything that might upset the company that holds the IPL TV rights? I think not.

Posted by ArmChairUmpire on (February 9, 2013, 21:56 GMT)

What? BCCI is most hated Cricket Board? Never. They are the most beloved. Yep, the general public really loves them. There was a time when the British, Maratha and Moghal empires were most beloved. See where they are now. The pity here is that these bullies are destroying the beauty of cricket. The next piece of stubbornness is BCCI's position on DRS (with all its imperfections). Perhaps now, Kapil Dev and co should re-try to organise a rival league.

Posted by vomhorizon on (February 9, 2013, 21:31 GMT)

Such power tussle is all but natural, given that the key positions in the BCCI are filled by Politicians,Ex Bureaucrats or captains of Industry all looking to put their foot down and make use of the power they have acquired. If only they used this power to expand cricket in india. Why do we not have a single permanent NCA like facility abroad in south africa or australia as was previously suggested? Surely the BCCI can afford to lease out a top class facility for a few months in a year to send youngsters for training and practice. L Thomas hit the nail right on the head, this is not about ECB refusing to grant indian team access to play cricket in ireland or scotland, but clearly stating that they can play as long as the TV rights that they have sold are honored. Is their anything legally, morally, or ethically wrong with that?

Posted by Andre2 on (February 9, 2013, 21:26 GMT)

I do not think Irish players playing against IPL teams will improve their skills of CRICKET ! They will improve their skills as being part of entertainment ! IPL is NOT cricket !

Posted by Kapil_Choudhary on (February 9, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

It seems like all these problems are simply a product of the present state of change that cricket is in. All these contracts between national boards and broadcasters were signed at a time when no one expected that any form of domestic cricket or "exhibition" matches could actually rival international cricket in terms of popularity. With the advent of the IPL, it was shown that "domestic" cricket can also sell on TV. As a result, everyone is now too scared on any new tournament coming up and wants a piece of the pie. With T20 leagues coming up every day, the rights to these leagues always create conflicts with long-term existing contracts which were signed on the assumption that international cricket would always remain far ahead of anything else. Initially, similar problems had occurred between the IPL and stadiums like Brabourne and Eden Gardens with the stadiums having promised premium seats for free to certain parties for all matches. These problems will all get resolved in due time

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 20:36 GMT)

bottomline is, would BCCI accept ECB coming into India and promoting their own tournament at the expense of Indian first class cricket and international cricket, no, it never will, the way to solve this issue is to BCCI to compensate ECB for the matches staged in Ireland and England, also an agreement can be made that no more then an X amount of matches can be played every year, this matches are exhibition matches and they will never hurt the first class cricket in the British Isles, at maximum, even if 4-5 exhibition matches are held every year, do you seriously think that would make a whole lot of difference. I feel that BCCI is hated because it used power all the time, it needs to resort to diplomacy, and needs to learn the art of persuasion and conversation. If I were BCCI, I would tell ECB that these matches are strictly for exhibition purposes, and won't be more then X per year, and won't be held at the same time as the English t20 cricket.

Posted by UndertheGrill on (February 9, 2013, 20:28 GMT)

Neither side comes out of this particularly well, but it's an extremely unedifying sight seeing people speaking up in support of bullies. Hopefully the ECB and BCCI can work beyond this, but if they can't it should add a bit of extra spice to the narrative of India's 5-Test tour of England in 2014, should any be needed!

Posted by randikaayya on (February 9, 2013, 20:23 GMT)

India's loss is Sri Lanka's gain!!Welcome the County players and GCA!!

Posted by AnujAgarwal on (February 9, 2013, 20:22 GMT)

I'm not sure what's the truth, but where does the article mention that BCCI wanted the broadcasting rights for those matches? I see people commenting here that ECB was just trying to protect the TV rights of SKY, but I don't see where the BCCI has asked for any of it..

I understand that if the approval process would have gone ahead, they might have asked for it. But nowhere does the article mention that the BCCI actually did that.

My only source of information about this topic is this article. So if anybody wants to say that BCCI asked for the TV rights, please produce the source for the same.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 19:54 GMT)

When will the BCCI understand that they are the most hated international cricket board.. The reasons why are manifestly obvious to all but the most besotted supporter. The BCCI may be the richest of the cricket boards but it is without doubt the least respected.. They prove to the nth degree that money may well give you power, but it won't buy respect. It also can't buy success... as is patently obvious from the recent run of results.... But never mind... the IPL can keep coining you millions.. and your prestige will continue it's downward slope... if in fact it can go any lower than where it is right now..

Posted by hirsthirst on (February 9, 2013, 19:44 GMT)

Mercifully, I care about cricket, not TV rights or nationalistic posturing. So (1) could some of the posters here--not all--switch off their passports and start thinking with their brains. And (2) can any poster tell us how come the ECB has the *power* to ban any cricket matches in Ireland, as distinct from banning broadcasting of them? Even if it may be financial nonsense to suggest a separation between the two aspects, but there surely must be a distinction. The ECB surley doesn't run Irish cricket? oes its contract about TV with Cricket Ireland give it, in addition, the right to ban some Irish match. Any clariufication wd be welcome, to me at least.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 19:06 GMT)

It's just a case, as usual, of the BCCI playing bully in the world of Cricket! Good for you ECB! Stand firm!

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 19:05 GMT)

@Joy716 - Just to correct your misapprehension, the body you refer to as the historical correspondent to the BCCI is the Marylebone Cricket Club, which ran English cricket and to a certain extent dominated the Cricketing world a century ago. The ECB was created as recently as on January 1st, 1997 and took over from the Test and County Cricket Board (TCCB), which was established in 1968 to oversee Test and county cricket in England.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 18:54 GMT)

@Omkar Bloodaxe Naik: Why should BCCI give the rights to SKY for free? BCCI is not a charity organisation and is not run by a private company. It's a cricket board which runs cricket independently... surprised?

Posted by Mr_Anonymous on (February 9, 2013, 18:52 GMT)

There is no one who gains from this impasse or deadlock between the ECB and the BCCI and both sides are being rather petty about dealing with the differences. My personal request to the BCCI as an Indian is to let go of this petty behavior and welcome any English players who want to come and play matches in India and give them the necessary approvals and take a higher moral ground. The Indian team is not doing well, not because the other players have more experience in Indian conditions, its just that all our players (especially the bowlers) are below par currently. Hopefully that will change at some point.

If the ECB wants to be petty about not sanctioning the IPL teams to play in Ireland or Scotland due to a perceived undermining of their exclusive contract with SkyTV, give them that choice.

The Tit for Tat won't benefit anyone and this hostility is detrimental to both sides. The best action is to just stop the hostility from our side (BCCI side) and hope for the best.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 18:51 GMT)

@SirViv1973 : Just to be clear... BCCI and Star TV are not the same. I know this might confuse you due to the SKY/ECB arrangement... but trust me, BCCI runs itself and not by a private company. Each to their own :)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 18:48 GMT)

@SirViv1973: Thanks for the nice explanation. The problem was that most of us assumed (incorrectly) that a cricket board of the country actually runs all cricketing matters, as normally the case. However, its now abundantly clear that ECB is a non-entity when it comes to cricket and its actually SKY who calls the shots (pun unintended). That's fine.. each to there own. We will bear this in mind henceforth.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 18:35 GMT)

I think if BCCI has the guts they should be ready to give all the match broadcasting rights to Sky! Easy as that. I'll tell you what its got nothing to do with ECB's refusal, The fact is that they just wanna promote the IPL, show it's an International competition & get more viewers without giving anyone else any share of the fame! More politics than business here, if they didnt care bout the money they wouldnt have minded giving broadcasting to Sky.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (February 9, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

@Maddy20, For what it's worth the ECB has an agreement with Ire & Sco where they play an ODI against each of them bi annually. Sadly due to the appalling weather conditions we experienced in the UK last yr the Scottish board decided to cancel their game with Eng due to their home ground the Grange in Edinburgh not being in a suitable condition. Eng last faced Ire in Dublin in Aug 2011, it was a rain affected game which Eng won by 11 runs. The 2 teams are scheduled to play each other again on 3 Sept this year.IMO it would be good to play the irish a bit more but but both the irish & Scottish boards seem quite happy with the current deal.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

I have a suggestion. Why doesn't BCCI deal directly with SKY, now that its been established that ECB is a non-entity when it comes to calling the shots for cricket in the UK... will save us all keyboard warriors a lot of hassle :)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 18:16 GMT)

Well.. since things are clearer now, at least Indians will not have much to complain about when there is an issue between BCCI and ECB... just need to realize that ECB is in fact SKY.. so no need to point fingers at ECB... its just a handcuffed board. Hopefully in a few years English cricket will come out if stone age and ECB will have democratic powers and will actually have its own say in cricketing matters. Wishing the same for Ireland and Scotland... who seem to be run from London anyway (not just cricket).

Posted by maddy20 on (February 9, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

@ Optic Ireland players play in English county. Ireland does not have its own domestic structure. If ECB wanted to genuinely help, it should have helped them build their own. This is exactly what I said before and I am saying it again. ECB's only interest here is to scout for talent and pinch it. You say ECB lets Ireland play in its international ODI tournaments. When was the last time you have seen an England vs Ireland game. Let me make this clear when I say, I am not at all proud of some of the actions of the BCCI, especially off-late. What I am actually saying is, ECB is no saint either!

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (February 9, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

Well.. cricket is a business and rightly so ! When you don't get what you want, you deny your counterparts everything on equal terms. However, what confuses me is WHY the ECB poke their noses in the affairs of Cricket Ireland and Scotland ? The last time I checked, those are independent countries with complete autonomy over their own cricketing affairs. If the whole issue is really about SKY being a difficult customer, then the BCCI should take them to court leaving the ECB alone. Speaking of players travelling to other countries, if the Indians players are "invited" to come to play in county teams, WHY the HELL are English players NOT allowed by the ECB to come to India and play for Ranji trophy teams. I for sure know that the BCCI has NO problem with that. Too bad English friends, you can't run away now.

Posted by warneneverchuck on (February 9, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

ECB shud learn now that they r no more powerhouse which once they used to be. It's BCCi now which they don't want to accept

Posted by Harmony111 on (February 9, 2013, 17:07 GMT)

A quick recap through the key events shows to us that even the last BCCI-SKY standoff had its roots in this. This article says that BCCI had made the exhibition match proposal after 2012's IPL and it was then vetoed by ECB using its SKY-deal as the excuse. Now, either SKY could have produced these matches itself or licensed some Indian house. I am no expert on corporate affairs but I guess Right-To-Refusal doesn't mean Right-To-Deny-Altogether. It only means that the holder be given the first chance and if it says no to it then someone else can take it. In fact, taking it in a diff way, one would say that SKY was COMPELLED to produce and broadcast whatever domestic matches Ireland/Scotland would play cos that was what the whole contract was about. If they say no then they got to be sued or at least they should give license to some other interested House. Now BCCI was ready to pay for the costs, SKY was compelled to produce/broadcast yet ECB said no. Why Why Why?

Posted by steve19191 on (February 9, 2013, 17:02 GMT)

Lets be honest here, this is about the BCCI trying to get in through the back door to undermine the ECB. The didn´t think the ECB would have the backbone to say no. they got that wrong !

Personally, after watching the 4 test matches in England and then the 4 test matches in India, I would be very happy to let the Indians play against Ireland and Scotland as they would be playing against teams far closer to their own level.

Posted by Unmesh_cric on (February 9, 2013, 16:36 GMT)

The truth is both BCCI and ECB are stubborn boards. ECB does its best to undermine IPL. It does not do it because it hates T20. ECB is the one which went ahead with the much maligned Stanford's "20 for 20". But when it comes to IPL, ECB acts as if it "cares" about Test cricket and that's why it is not sending their players for the full IPL season. BCCI is no different. Whoever does even slightly against their will, it does its best to create problems for them. The fact is ECB and BCCI dislike each other. It's an ego issue and a power struggle.

Posted by Andre2 on (February 9, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

100% agree with Tom_Bowler. ECB is thinking about cricket and BCCI is speaking about money. BCCI is greedy. ECB will go to Sri Lanka and the Lankans will not complain. Totally disagree with IndianNumeroUno.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 15:45 GMT)

@LillianThomson : "So the BCCI can send teams there - but they can't sell the TV rights, as SKY TV has already bought and paid for them". OK That's fine... in which case please don't start whinging when BCCI charge SKY for doing anything in India. If SKY runs cricket in England its there problem, but in India the BCCI run cricket. There you go. Thank You.

Posted by Trickstar on (February 9, 2013, 15:45 GMT)

@ LillianThomson Excellent comment.

It's unreal how poorly informed Indian posters are on a lot of this, for example:

@ crindo77 You do know that Indian players are welcome and do play for Counties in the County Championship, Ojha came over to play for Surrey, Harbhajan Singh to Essex & Tendulakar in the past, so how are the ECB not wanting Indians to get experience for English conditions. But do you know that Indian players are not allowed to play in any one day competition any where in the word, that's how much you're beloved BCCI cares about you're player development. Most coutries have asked for Indian involvement, from the English FP T20 to The Big Bash but the BCCI doesn't want to play ball. The ECB doesn't call shots about who play Ireland, but when it comes to the viewing rights that belongs to Sky for the moment, just like Star TV or whoever does Indian cricket, the BCCI new all thi before they even started it, just throwing their weight around as usual.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 15:40 GMT)

This is getting more and more ridiculous. Why is it OK to say that ECB has "sold" everything to SKY and then SKY do whatever they want with the "rights", but when it comes to BCCI charging SKY suddenly its bullying and strong arm tactics!! Grow up guys. It's all about money. Please don't tell me ECB/SKY is a charity organisation run for the development of cricket.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 15:11 GMT)

@Harmony111: "BCCI wanted to establish more points of contact between its IPL teams and Eng counties but ECB vetoed it."

1. Scotland & Ireland are *not* English county sides. Neither even play in the County Championship. It's those two sides that the BCCI were attempting to organise games against, *not* any of the county sides.

2. Far from seeking to establish closer contact with English county sides, the article clearly states that the seven county squads in question "failed to receive permission to visit India from a muted BCCI". In which way could such information possibly be interpreted as the BCCI attempting to foster closer ties with them?

You are, however, correct on one point: it's pretty clear that the ECB attempted to belittle the BCCI by sending 2nd XI T20 & ODI squads to India. The fact that we drew the T20 series & only lost the ODI series due to 'eccentric' Indian umpiring tells us all we need to know about the current state of Indian cricket.

Posted by Optic on (February 9, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

@ maddy20 What has the ECB done to improve Irish cricket well where can we start seen as you seem to be either trolling or very badly informed. If you haven't noticed the vast improvement in Irish cricket the last few years, that is because nearly all the team is now filled with County players. These players have been found coached and improved as players. Players like Porterfield, Nial O' Brien & Dobell have all been able to become full time Cricket players because of the ECB. Also the ECB has for a few years, let the Ireland, Scotland & the Netherlands play in it's one day competitions, do you think this is done for viewing numbers, or because it makes the ECB money, no it's for the development of the 3 teams, which seems to have worked by giving their cricketers regular cricket against county sides. You say the IPL grants financial security, well what do you think Irish players playing County cricket does, as well Dutch and Scottish players. The BBCI's attempt is all about money

Posted by crindo77 on (February 9, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

Playing IPL teams in Ireland could have been a good experience for Indian batters to get a taste of English conditions; bowlers like Bhuvaneshwar, Praveen will bowl well under those conditions. And thats a worthwhile commitement, although BCCIs motives may have been largely financial. However, tit will beget tat. ECB doesn't want Indian players to be successful in England, no more than the BCCI wants vice-versa. Hardly surprising.

Posted by Hash_Tag on (February 9, 2013, 14:53 GMT)

There are some poorly informed posters here - mostly my fellow Indians. Outside of India BCCI has no rights and can have expectation that they can just roll into any country and do and say what they like. In Europe SKY broadcasting dominate the adenda, and the ECB negotiate with them. It is not up to the ECB who does or does not play in Ireland or Scotland or any place other than in the matches franchised with the ECB - for they have negotiated and sold the rights to media output. With that deal done the matter is closed ECB have no say in what happens next. It is sheer fantasy to imagine that the ECB allow or disallow anything - it is SKY broadcasting who call the shots. Any other talk of "good" or "improvement" being brought by the actions of BCCI - or ECB for that matter is off the point and, frankly, rubbish. Everybody here knows exactly and precisely what the BCCI is and one or two posters here need to stop deluding themselves. BCCI is bent on pure profit, nothing else.

Posted by shillingsworth on (February 9, 2013, 14:47 GMT)

@Lillian Thompson - great comment. Accurate and to the point.

Posted by shillingsworth on (February 9, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

ShortnStraight_To_Point - Ridiculous comments. Very few England players 'joined the queue'. The only things we know about the KP episode is that he reversed his retirement from ODIs and remains unavailable for the second half of the IPL. I'm no expert on Maxwell's batting style but I very much doubt whether your statement about him is any more accurate.

Posted by shillingsworth on (February 9, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

@maddy20 - Irish cricketers play for English counties. The Irish team have the option of participating in domestic one day tournaments. England play at least one ODI in Ireland each year. The same applies to Scotland. I'd say they were actually doing quite a lot to improve cricket in both countries. Your statement that they are 'hindering' them is absurd.

As for the tired old cliché about 'pinching' Irish players, some facts might again be useful here. Morgan wanted to further his career by turning professional. There being no opportunities in Ireland, he signed a contract with an English county. As with any other successful England qualified player in county cricket, he was offered to opportunity to represent England and chose to do so. At all points of the process, the decision was his and no one else's.

Posted by SDHM on (February 9, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

@maddy20 - Rankin has decided to stop playing for Ireland to focus on trying to get into the England side, rightly or wrongly. Ireland haven't yet pushed for Test status because they currently have no facilities or first class structure in place to support it - Bangladesh did exactly the same and it's done them no good whatsoever, unless you think 13 years of batterings is good for the game.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (February 9, 2013, 14:28 GMT)

@LillanThomson, Your comments are spot on, I think some of the other posters here are being a bit arrogant of this fact.@Shortnstraight, I don't agree with you, I'm not going to bang on about KP, the situation has been resolved and he know appears to be towing the line. Prior was the only Centrally contracted player to try & make the ipl this yr. The ECB would have given him their blessing as he only plays 1 form for Eng, & like KP would only have been available for 4 Wks. It was noticeable that the likes of Swann & Anderson do not put their names 4ward this time around. This would have been because both are key bowlers (bowlers tend to pick up more injuries than keepers or batsman) & both play more than 1 form. With both players certain to be involved in both ashes series & the CT, the ECB would not have wanted them to be risking injury playing in the ipl. So I believe the ECB are still more than capable of stopping their players from 'Joining the queue' as you put it.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

The bcci's move of playing ipl sides in Ireland and Scotland would have been great experience and a chance for the players from such sides to play against top players from around the world, so ecb should have welcomed this move of bcci.. I would really love many countries playing top cricket, ecb doesn't want that to happen, instead they think of their own ego's and not let the game spread around the world.

Posted by cricket-spoiled-me on (February 9, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

@Scott McHugh : I want to add one more point to your logic 1.)BCCI ban photographers from their own stadia, charge Sky for a commentary box, refuse to adopt DRS. This is a reply to ECB for not allowing IPL teams to play Ireland,Scotland etc.. and not allowing English Players play in IPL though the players are interested to.. It is ECB first started the problem last year and what do you expect in return from BCCI?....being good to your board..huh? "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW"... This is 2013 not 1900... so wake up!..Now time is ours.

Posted by maddy20 on (February 9, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

So what did ECB actually do to imrpove cricket in Ireland? When Bangladesh was vouching to play in the worldcups, all the Asian cricket boards were behind them. Same goes for their test status. BCCI pushed for it till Bangladesh got it. Can ECB do such a thing for Ireland and Scotland? No. Their only interest in Ireland and Scotland, is pinching players like Morgan. They tried pinching Boyd Rankin too, but we all know how that turned out. ECB is a hindrance to development of cricket in Ireland and Scotland.The sooner Ireland realize this and form a strong cricketing structure of their own, with the aid ICC grants them every year, the better. @Scott McHugh You are entirely wrong here. Other boards side with BCCI for mutual benefit on the financial front. Besides IPL grants lesser known players financial security which in turn serves as deterrent against malpractices in the sport. Does ECB offer that to the Irish? No way!

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (February 9, 2013, 13:46 GMT)

First DRS veto, now this ...... no end of BCCI strongman tactics even with its team lunging from 1 defeat to another..... no end is in sight for string of losses too -:)

Posted by Joy716 on (February 9, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

@Henrik Lovén Throughout the cricketing history one board dominated and controlled others.I don't know why some people are getting so agitated about it.It is not the year 1900,we have come a long way.Have a good day.

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (February 9, 2013, 13:39 GMT)

Come to think of it, almost all the Boards of the countries playing cricket seem to be in the news for all the wrong reasons.Think about it BCCI, CA, CSA ECB, SLC,PCB, WICB, NZC, BCB, ZC all seem to be competing over who is the most controversial.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Pathetic as usual by the BCCI. They can ban photographers from their own stadia, charge Sky for a commentary box, refuse to adopt DRS. But they can't try to gain rights to TV coverage in another country. Well they can, but they ain't going to win. Shame on them

Posted by ShortnStraight_To_Point on (February 9, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

@Henrik- Just an IPL auction is enough to make players change there batting style ( Watch Maxwell bat against WI)...Players from all around the world are Lining up to get into an IPL teams....Even ECB cant stop there players from joining the Queue.. and We all know the KP episode. ....SO WAKE UP....NO ONE in the Cricketing world can stand up to BCCI....Live with that.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 12:56 GMT)

There's far more at stake here than mere television right, it's about power in world cricket. India already control the ICC to the point where their opinion and vote counts for more than all other countries put together, vide the DRS issue, and the other Test playing nations dare not antagonise the BCCI. The IPL, while not being a monopoly, is the most lucrative form of cricket played right now and stands above International cricket as players contracted to the IPL are not automatically available for their countries should the IPL collide with a series - unlike other domestic cricket. This is a hostile move (using "hostile" in the sense it is used in business) by the BCCI onto the turf of the ECB that in the longer term could have had very serious repercussions on World Cricket had it not been opposed. It's time to make it absolutely clear to the BCCI that they only run cricket in India, have no more than an equal say in the ICC and nothing to do with cricket elsewhere.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

One thing is for sure Future of the Cricket is definitely in the wrong hands..... Its no more a Gentlemen's game anymore.

Posted by digvijay_5885 on (February 9, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler....And about going somewhere else for mutually beneficial exchange of idea....u may have to go to Florida for that...ALLEN STANFORD will be there for 110 years....

Posted by SirViv1973 on (February 9, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

@ManthePM, Unless we go down the route of trying to create artificial surfaces (which is another argument) then we can't just prepare turning pitches when we want to. In the UK we have had the wettest 12 mth period since records began, how are we suppose to prepare turning pitches with those sort of conditions? If it was possible to produce turning pitches whenever we wanted don't you think we would be preparing a few for this summers ashes series given the fact our spin options are considerably better than Oz right now?

Posted by srinideva on (February 9, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

ECB is thinking of its ruling in 00` is a reminder for them... it is india who is ruling the world cricket. IPL is a entertainment cricket.just like a spread all over the world because of BCCI money. Since ICC receiving most of its income from india....International cricket will maintain its worth alone.

Posted by LillianThomson on (February 9, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

No-one has said that IPL sides can't play in Scotland or Ireland.

The issue is that SKY TV has already bought the rights to all cricket held there, and they paid the ECB for them.

So the BCCI can send teams there - but they can't sell the TV rights, as SKY TV has already bought and paid for them.

Posted by anshu.s on (February 9, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

@Skysports is holding ECB to ransom, if they had the Rights of IPL not only Ireland matches would have been allowed but that ridiculously early start to English season in May would have ceased to exist either !!! you got to question Sky's commitment to cricket, they refused to send it's commentary team to India for the recently concluded test/ODI series citing BCCI'S last minute unreasonable demand, they may be right but it was a question of a million dollar and if they loved cricket so much they could have either forked out the money or worked up a compromise with BCCI .Sky has no problems paying 6 billion Euros, yes 6 billion Euros !!! for a 4 year period to cover English premier league but not 1 million for poor old cricket. Does anyone notice how Sky barely shows any domestic 4- day matches in a country which loves it longer format,Guess ECB don't have a choice because BBC and ITV are looking for a free ride i.e not the same amount which Sky pays.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

@TripleCenturian : Helping is different than subjugating and feeding off. BCCI supports neighbouring boards, but as equals... not by just giving some employment contracts and tying them into bonded dependency. They certainly do not dictate who the other boards should be playing and where... so please get off that high benevolent horse.

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

ECB could have easily said that the Matches will not be Televised & that may have been the end of it but it flexed its muscle & therby allowing BCCI to do the same.

BCCI is comparing Apples with Oranges!!! IPL team is not a FC team representing any state board of India. To compare the county player with IPL prayers is a travesty.

Posted by Rebel_Who_Follows_All_The_Rules on (February 9, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

Is this why Kevin O'Brien was ignored in this year's auction???

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler : You will be more than welcome anywhere.. as long as its "mutually beneficial ". In this case, clearly not :)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 12:06 GMT)

@Ramski1 : if you read properly, BCCI offered to pick up the tab for the exhibition matches. Regarding the ECB attempt to improve performance that's fair enough but don't be lulled into thinking that there is no financial gain involved. Just look at the TV contracts. Also, why do people think players should play for charity? Don't they have families to feed?

Posted by TripleCenturian on (February 9, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

@ravi Bopara. ITV do screen the IPL but its played in India and not Ireland. Sky have exclusivity for televising games in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Don't moan about the ECB acting as a big bully over the Irish. The English counties have employed several Irish players over the last decade in particular which has seen them improve individually and then go back and help Ireland as a team get better. The English have actually helped and supported the Irish in this regard. To what extent have India helped their minnow neighbours like Afghanistan?

Posted by   on (February 9, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

Remanding me of Newton's third Law, every action has equaled reaction!!

@ Ramski1 ::: ECB doesn't thinking of money than why they stopped IPL's teams playing in Ireland & Scotland, its just because they holding TV rights and there comes money involvement.

If ECB really wanted to improve their teams performance let them create spin track in england and practice.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (February 9, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

Interesting! This explains a lot of things. It's evidently clear who is running Cricket in Ireland and Scotland. Furthermore, its also perfectly clear who runs ECB. I actually feel sorry for ECB as they seem to be run by private companies rather than cricketing executives. In the long term ECB need to be in a position to pick and choose their benefactors so that they can make decisions on their own. Same goes for Cricket Ireland and Cricket Scotland. It's unfortunate that BCCI offer to foot the bill for the tours was also rejected under duress. Says it all really for the state of cricket in UK. Looks like there is indeed a bully in Cricket - and its definitely not the BCCI!

Posted by sportofpain on (February 9, 2013, 11:46 GMT)

This is all business. The BCCI has the interests of the players and teams under its wing and so does the ECB. At the end of the day, both are working towards optimizing their own opportunities to grow. The decisions made by them stem from that root. Whether these are right decisions or not, one cannot be certain. However this is a quid pro quo - or every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (February 9, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

Don't see a problem here, the English sides will just go elsewhere and engage in a mutually beneficial exchange of ideas. With the current state of Indian cricket it's unlikely they would have learned much there in any case.

Posted by gsingh7 on (February 9, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

firmly supporting bcci on this stance, u need two to tango, clap needs two hands not one. if ipl is denied to grow in ireland and scotland then bcci must never allow any english lad to play on indian soil unless its international tournament under icc jurisdiction. well done bcci

Posted by UdB on (February 9, 2013, 11:40 GMT)

And money isn't important ? players doing charity here ? they don't have to feed their families ?

Posted by Bruisers on (February 9, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

Funny as it gets with Nottinghamshire. They refuse to send their players for the IPL but want them to play in this practice academy. Fair enough decision by the BCCI.

Posted by RAVI_BOPARA on (February 9, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

Would not be a bad idea if ITV got invloved with this as they hold the TV coverage here in UK for IPL.

Posted by cyborg909 on (February 9, 2013, 11:20 GMT)

You gotta be kidding me? Why would BCCI think its ok for them to poach on ECB territory?

Posted by Ramski1 on (February 9, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

BCCI sending IPL teams to play in Ireland is an attempt to increase income for both the franchise and BCCI. The BCCI are desperate to milk the IPL for everything it is worth. The franchises are desperate to recoup the money they have invested.

England sending a performance squad to India is about improving players ability in the subcontinent ie. improving team England. ECB make no money from sending a performance squad to India, in fact it cost them.

The 2 scenarios are completely different and sum up the priorities of the 2 boards, 1 focused on making their team as good as it can possibly be, the other looking to make as much money as they possibly can!

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