IPL news November 13, 2013

At least six players should be retained - Gilchrist

Alagappan Muthu in Bangalore
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With uncertainty surrounding the rules of next year's IPL auction, Adam Gilchrist, who has captained in each of the six seasons of the tournament so far, hopes there is a reasonable level of player retention for the next edition of the IPL.

For the second time since its inception in 2008, a sweeping auction is due with a majority of the players expected to go under the hammer, but Gilchrist doesn't want teams to have to build from scratch. Gilchrist, who retired after this year's IPL, was leading a settled (but now defunct) Deccan Chargers side in the first three-year cycle, and led them to the title in 2009, but in 2011 he was recruited as Kings XI Punjab's captain and had to work on building a team all over again.

"The auction system, as it currently stands, doesn't seem to have the capacity for each team to turn up and be on a level playing field"
Former Australia cricketer Adam Gilchrist

"I'd like to see at least six players being able to be retained," he said, while addressing the media in Bangalore to introduce the first recipient of the University of Wollongong's Bradman Scholarship. "Whether that's a split of three overseas and three local players, I'm not sure, but I think with at least six players you get a core group to work with. And, it's crucial that we don't take for granted the most important people in all this and that's the spectators. We can't expect them to support teams that have chopped and changed so much. That level of loyalty needs to be there."

Gilchrist has captained 74 out of 80 matches played and enjoyed several highs, foremost being reviving the Chargers from a wooden-spoon finish to winning the IPL the very next year and holding the record for the fastest century in the tournament until 2010.

He believed the mismatch among various IPL teams can be traced, at least partly, to the auction set-up and hopes the governing body can provide a more even playing field this time around.

"The auction system, as it currently stands, doesn't seem to have the capacity for each team to turn up and be on a level playing field," he said. "There's definitely been a couple of teams, being Mumbai [Indians] and Chennai [Super Kings], that have had no fears of using up the full capacity of that salary cap and plus more when it comes to the blind bidding at the end, if two franchises are still in the hunt. I think in any tournament you'd like to see even competition and you hope that there's consistency for everybody.

"It's obviously up to the owners of the franchises whether they utilise the full salary cap but the evenness in a competition needs to be maintained and that's a great challenge for the governing body. It's difficult when there are big corporations bidding against small syndicate groups of owners."

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  • POSTED BY ladycricfan on | November 16, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    Gilly is right. 5 or 6 players should be retained. No more secret tie breaker. Everything should be transparent. To break the tie simply toss the coin or draw lots.

  • POSTED BY on | November 14, 2013, 6:25 GMT

    IPL was initially a great idea and the tournament for the most part has been a positive thing for cricket...However in recent seasons, have turned off simply because I am a cricket fan...There is far too much bollywood now, the tv presentation is ridiculous, esp with the use of female anchors who are clueless about cricket (just get some who are knowledgeable please) and the overall feeling that IPL has mainly been set up to provide yet another outlet for Indian housewives to fantasize about living a millionaire's lifestyle. If it got back to actual cricket, I may start tuning in again.

  • POSTED BY jimbond on | November 14, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Year after year- same strong MI, CSK, RCB, makes it dull. If there is a churn, it will add to the interest in seeing how the new set of players combine. Better competition between the teams will lead to better viewing. However, instead of auctioning, it may also be okay to allow players to reach an arrangement with a team before the auction. And more importantly, it is necessary to scrap the rule that discriminates between national players and uncapped players. As such these poor guy are already being discriminated against by the national selection committee- there is no need to build on that inequity .

  • POSTED BY RaghavendraMaiya on | November 14, 2013, 4:18 GMT

    Gilchrist is absolutely right. Even cricket fan also gets confused about which player is in which team after every IPL. I am a fan of only first 3 seasons, because players' combination in each team were almost same. Then suddenly more than 100 players got exchanged between teams. Confusion created. This is the reason for the downfall of the popularity of IPL year by year.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | November 13, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    I am an English fan of the IPL and think it would make the IPL even more exciting if there was rotation rather than retention.

    Re fan loyalty surely the most important fans (Indian public), support their local teams like we do in other countries (eg me and my friends support Hampshire at cricket, Southampon (or some Portsmouth) at football) therefore their loyalty would be automatically kept?

    Suggestion: Before the auction, categorise players into 4 pots: 1.International Indian cricketers (16- 2 per team) 2. Indian domestic players (eg Biny Tiwary etc) 3. Indian emerging youngsters (eg Samson) 4. Overseas players

    Pots should be auctioned in an order (perhaps domestic last, as these are the squad fillers.

    Then 2 years later retain Indian domestic players (eg Biny, Tiwary etc) to keep a core. Pots should be recategorised as organisers see fit.

  • POSTED BY viru-319-219 on | November 13, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    Well retaining players and fan loyalty is a good idea, but I don't think that should be given priority.

    IPL is pure entertainment and I love it the way it is. You can't just make IPL teams like international teams with players (even core) playing for the same team.

    If franchise wants to retain players then maybe retention should be only for domestic Indian players... may be they can also be allowed to retain a player if he is captain or one Indian contract player and that should be maximum.

    So every team can have a star Indian player or their captain and few domestic players retained and all others going into auction. I personally want to see all the international players going into auction, every franchise should be given a chance to buy Gayle,pollard,AB,Malinga,Narine,Steyn,watson and so on.

    To make IPL competitive, players can be divided into 3 pools and there should be a rule stating Min of 6 players should be bought from each pool and anything over that is franchise decision.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    6 years since the IPL has started - ALL players should go into auction (consistent with IPL management's commission). Bidding plan recommendation - Players who want to captain an IPL side should be Auctioned, Jan 1st week. Feb 1st week - Auction for the rest of the players. Suggestion for change in the auction - Player forms should have 2 prices, 1 the minimum price the player would like, initial auction to start with that. In the absence of bidders for that price, 2nd price - minimum price for which the player will settle. Let there be a revised auction for players basis that logic. ...If foreign domestic players without Intl. experience can be auctioned, even Rajat Bhatia, Mithun Manhas et al should be allowed the benefit of an Auction.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    I agree with Gilly. It's the only way to ensure that the spectators are loyal and teams have a chance to change the balance of the team as they see fit at the same time!

  • POSTED BY Elite_Achilles on | November 13, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    I am all for the retaining of players definitely and so is almost every friend I know. Many have lost interest in the IPL because teams change constantly. They cant really connect with any player. But I think that because there have been many controversies and many players resigning this year, they should completely scrap out the teams and start afresh. Then from next year, 5 players in a team should be retained. Whichever players they choose to retain, they should do so for, say 5 years. This would revive the interest in the crowd again.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    It will be good plan to say retain 5 player for each with same salary cap for all 5 of them. Then a same bidding amount for all the team. This makes sure than atleast 5 players are retained for sure by all the team. They have bought them thinking they are core players so let them not break the core. So when coming to bidding all will have the same no of played to be filled and same amount to bid with 5 of their valuable players in pocket. This will make every1 at even ground atleast at the start of the auction.

  • POSTED BY ladycricfan on | November 16, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    Gilly is right. 5 or 6 players should be retained. No more secret tie breaker. Everything should be transparent. To break the tie simply toss the coin or draw lots.

  • POSTED BY on | November 14, 2013, 6:25 GMT

    IPL was initially a great idea and the tournament for the most part has been a positive thing for cricket...However in recent seasons, have turned off simply because I am a cricket fan...There is far too much bollywood now, the tv presentation is ridiculous, esp with the use of female anchors who are clueless about cricket (just get some who are knowledgeable please) and the overall feeling that IPL has mainly been set up to provide yet another outlet for Indian housewives to fantasize about living a millionaire's lifestyle. If it got back to actual cricket, I may start tuning in again.

  • POSTED BY jimbond on | November 14, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Year after year- same strong MI, CSK, RCB, makes it dull. If there is a churn, it will add to the interest in seeing how the new set of players combine. Better competition between the teams will lead to better viewing. However, instead of auctioning, it may also be okay to allow players to reach an arrangement with a team before the auction. And more importantly, it is necessary to scrap the rule that discriminates between national players and uncapped players. As such these poor guy are already being discriminated against by the national selection committee- there is no need to build on that inequity .

  • POSTED BY RaghavendraMaiya on | November 14, 2013, 4:18 GMT

    Gilchrist is absolutely right. Even cricket fan also gets confused about which player is in which team after every IPL. I am a fan of only first 3 seasons, because players' combination in each team were almost same. Then suddenly more than 100 players got exchanged between teams. Confusion created. This is the reason for the downfall of the popularity of IPL year by year.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | November 13, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    I am an English fan of the IPL and think it would make the IPL even more exciting if there was rotation rather than retention.

    Re fan loyalty surely the most important fans (Indian public), support their local teams like we do in other countries (eg me and my friends support Hampshire at cricket, Southampon (or some Portsmouth) at football) therefore their loyalty would be automatically kept?

    Suggestion: Before the auction, categorise players into 4 pots: 1.International Indian cricketers (16- 2 per team) 2. Indian domestic players (eg Biny Tiwary etc) 3. Indian emerging youngsters (eg Samson) 4. Overseas players

    Pots should be auctioned in an order (perhaps domestic last, as these are the squad fillers.

    Then 2 years later retain Indian domestic players (eg Biny, Tiwary etc) to keep a core. Pots should be recategorised as organisers see fit.

  • POSTED BY viru-319-219 on | November 13, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    Well retaining players and fan loyalty is a good idea, but I don't think that should be given priority.

    IPL is pure entertainment and I love it the way it is. You can't just make IPL teams like international teams with players (even core) playing for the same team.

    If franchise wants to retain players then maybe retention should be only for domestic Indian players... may be they can also be allowed to retain a player if he is captain or one Indian contract player and that should be maximum.

    So every team can have a star Indian player or their captain and few domestic players retained and all others going into auction. I personally want to see all the international players going into auction, every franchise should be given a chance to buy Gayle,pollard,AB,Malinga,Narine,Steyn,watson and so on.

    To make IPL competitive, players can be divided into 3 pools and there should be a rule stating Min of 6 players should be bought from each pool and anything over that is franchise decision.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    6 years since the IPL has started - ALL players should go into auction (consistent with IPL management's commission). Bidding plan recommendation - Players who want to captain an IPL side should be Auctioned, Jan 1st week. Feb 1st week - Auction for the rest of the players. Suggestion for change in the auction - Player forms should have 2 prices, 1 the minimum price the player would like, initial auction to start with that. In the absence of bidders for that price, 2nd price - minimum price for which the player will settle. Let there be a revised auction for players basis that logic. ...If foreign domestic players without Intl. experience can be auctioned, even Rajat Bhatia, Mithun Manhas et al should be allowed the benefit of an Auction.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    I agree with Gilly. It's the only way to ensure that the spectators are loyal and teams have a chance to change the balance of the team as they see fit at the same time!

  • POSTED BY Elite_Achilles on | November 13, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    I am all for the retaining of players definitely and so is almost every friend I know. Many have lost interest in the IPL because teams change constantly. They cant really connect with any player. But I think that because there have been many controversies and many players resigning this year, they should completely scrap out the teams and start afresh. Then from next year, 5 players in a team should be retained. Whichever players they choose to retain, they should do so for, say 5 years. This would revive the interest in the crowd again.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    It will be good plan to say retain 5 player for each with same salary cap for all 5 of them. Then a same bidding amount for all the team. This makes sure than atleast 5 players are retained for sure by all the team. They have bought them thinking they are core players so let them not break the core. So when coming to bidding all will have the same no of played to be filled and same amount to bid with 5 of their valuable players in pocket. This will make every1 at even ground atleast at the start of the auction.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 13:50 GMT

    He is absolutely right ! you don't want to see Malinga/pollard/rohit going into auction and got selected for teams other than MI. Similarly you can see the core players of different teams which must be retained. MI - Rohit / Pollard / Malinga / Harbhajan CSK - MSD / Raina / Ashwin or jadeja / Bravo or Hussey RCB - Virat / Gayle / ABD / SRH - Dhawan / Steyn / Perera RR - Watson / Rahane / Faulkner KKR - Gautam / Narine / Kallis DD - Pieterson / Warner / Sehwag KXP - David Huss / Chawla or Mandeep / Miller

    These are the some of the players who forms the core of the team & must be retained in order to maintain fan loyalty(as mentioned by gilly) .

  • POSTED BY CRIC_FAN94 on | November 13, 2013, 13:46 GMT

    Please no retention.It will be nice to see different teams altogether. We want to see MSD ,Virat,Rohit,Gayle,raina etc players in some other teams

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  • POSTED BY CRIC_FAN94 on | November 13, 2013, 13:46 GMT

    Please no retention.It will be nice to see different teams altogether. We want to see MSD ,Virat,Rohit,Gayle,raina etc players in some other teams

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 13:50 GMT

    He is absolutely right ! you don't want to see Malinga/pollard/rohit going into auction and got selected for teams other than MI. Similarly you can see the core players of different teams which must be retained. MI - Rohit / Pollard / Malinga / Harbhajan CSK - MSD / Raina / Ashwin or jadeja / Bravo or Hussey RCB - Virat / Gayle / ABD / SRH - Dhawan / Steyn / Perera RR - Watson / Rahane / Faulkner KKR - Gautam / Narine / Kallis DD - Pieterson / Warner / Sehwag KXP - David Huss / Chawla or Mandeep / Miller

    These are the some of the players who forms the core of the team & must be retained in order to maintain fan loyalty(as mentioned by gilly) .

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    It will be good plan to say retain 5 player for each with same salary cap for all 5 of them. Then a same bidding amount for all the team. This makes sure than atleast 5 players are retained for sure by all the team. They have bought them thinking they are core players so let them not break the core. So when coming to bidding all will have the same no of played to be filled and same amount to bid with 5 of their valuable players in pocket. This will make every1 at even ground atleast at the start of the auction.

  • POSTED BY Elite_Achilles on | November 13, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    I am all for the retaining of players definitely and so is almost every friend I know. Many have lost interest in the IPL because teams change constantly. They cant really connect with any player. But I think that because there have been many controversies and many players resigning this year, they should completely scrap out the teams and start afresh. Then from next year, 5 players in a team should be retained. Whichever players they choose to retain, they should do so for, say 5 years. This would revive the interest in the crowd again.

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    I agree with Gilly. It's the only way to ensure that the spectators are loyal and teams have a chance to change the balance of the team as they see fit at the same time!

  • POSTED BY on | November 13, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    6 years since the IPL has started - ALL players should go into auction (consistent with IPL management's commission). Bidding plan recommendation - Players who want to captain an IPL side should be Auctioned, Jan 1st week. Feb 1st week - Auction for the rest of the players. Suggestion for change in the auction - Player forms should have 2 prices, 1 the minimum price the player would like, initial auction to start with that. In the absence of bidders for that price, 2nd price - minimum price for which the player will settle. Let there be a revised auction for players basis that logic. ...If foreign domestic players without Intl. experience can be auctioned, even Rajat Bhatia, Mithun Manhas et al should be allowed the benefit of an Auction.

  • POSTED BY viru-319-219 on | November 13, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    Well retaining players and fan loyalty is a good idea, but I don't think that should be given priority.

    IPL is pure entertainment and I love it the way it is. You can't just make IPL teams like international teams with players (even core) playing for the same team.

    If franchise wants to retain players then maybe retention should be only for domestic Indian players... may be they can also be allowed to retain a player if he is captain or one Indian contract player and that should be maximum.

    So every team can have a star Indian player or their captain and few domestic players retained and all others going into auction. I personally want to see all the international players going into auction, every franchise should be given a chance to buy Gayle,pollard,AB,Malinga,Narine,Steyn,watson and so on.

    To make IPL competitive, players can be divided into 3 pools and there should be a rule stating Min of 6 players should be bought from each pool and anything over that is franchise decision.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | November 13, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    I am an English fan of the IPL and think it would make the IPL even more exciting if there was rotation rather than retention.

    Re fan loyalty surely the most important fans (Indian public), support their local teams like we do in other countries (eg me and my friends support Hampshire at cricket, Southampon (or some Portsmouth) at football) therefore their loyalty would be automatically kept?

    Suggestion: Before the auction, categorise players into 4 pots: 1.International Indian cricketers (16- 2 per team) 2. Indian domestic players (eg Biny Tiwary etc) 3. Indian emerging youngsters (eg Samson) 4. Overseas players

    Pots should be auctioned in an order (perhaps domestic last, as these are the squad fillers.

    Then 2 years later retain Indian domestic players (eg Biny, Tiwary etc) to keep a core. Pots should be recategorised as organisers see fit.

  • POSTED BY RaghavendraMaiya on | November 14, 2013, 4:18 GMT

    Gilchrist is absolutely right. Even cricket fan also gets confused about which player is in which team after every IPL. I am a fan of only first 3 seasons, because players' combination in each team were almost same. Then suddenly more than 100 players got exchanged between teams. Confusion created. This is the reason for the downfall of the popularity of IPL year by year.

  • POSTED BY jimbond on | November 14, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Year after year- same strong MI, CSK, RCB, makes it dull. If there is a churn, it will add to the interest in seeing how the new set of players combine. Better competition between the teams will lead to better viewing. However, instead of auctioning, it may also be okay to allow players to reach an arrangement with a team before the auction. And more importantly, it is necessary to scrap the rule that discriminates between national players and uncapped players. As such these poor guy are already being discriminated against by the national selection committee- there is no need to build on that inequity .