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India could face 4-0 loss in Australia - McGrath

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August 20, 2014

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'For India to be competitive, a lot of things have to change' - McGrath

Former Australia fast bowler Glenn McGrath has suggested that India are likely to cop another 4-0 Test series loss in Australia unless they improve on all aspects of their cricket. India play four Tests against the hosts from December 2014 to January 2015, followed by an ODI tri-series that also features England.

McGrath told ESPNcricinfo that India would be under severe pressure if Australia play with the same intensity as their 5-0 thrashing of England during the Ashes at home last year.

"For India to be competitive in the upcoming Australia series, a lot of things have to change. We saw, as you mentioned, England when they toured Australia last year, they were well and truly beaten 5-0. Now they have well and truly beaten India 3-1. It's going to be a tough series for India in Australia," McGrath said.

"If Australia play anywhere near as they have been, then they are going to be really tough to beat. To be honest, I can't see India winning a Test match, so my prediction is as it usually is - I predict Australia to win and win 4-0. It's up to the Indian team to prove me wrong and to somehow find some way to turn around their form. Their fielding, their batting, their bowling [to a degree], they've got a lot of work to do in the next few months."

McGrath termed India's performance in the Tests against England as "ordinary" and said the losses could be put down to a matter of getting the basics right, like converting the opportunities that the bowlers create.

"It could have been better, no doubt about that. I have enjoyed Varun Aaron coming in, bowling with a bit more pace. Ishant Sharma has always promised a lot, he's still taking wickets, but unfortunately, he's had a few injury worries, his pace has dropped down. Pankaj Singh looks raw but has a lot of potential. As a unit they could have bowled better but they did create quite a few chances. That's what you have to do at that level. But you can't afford to drop 3-4 catches in every Test match. If you do that, you're not going to win any. Overall, the bowling was 7-7.5 out of 10."


Varun Aaron is pumped up after bowling Sam Robson, England v India, 5th Investec Test, The Oval, 2nd day, August 16, 2014
According to Glenn McGrath, Varun Aaron could fill the void of an out-and-out fast bowler in the Indian side © Getty Images
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Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who finished as the side's leading wicket-taker with 19 dismissals, was one of the stand-out performers for India in the Tests.

"He's done well. [He] bowls pretty good areas, he swings the ball and has got the knack of taking wickets, too. So it's all about playing at this level, being successful, believing in yourself and then being able to improve and learn from every game you play."

McGrath pointed out that one of the main issues India face on overseas tours is the lack of a quality fast bowler. He said that Varun Aaron had shown the potential to fill that void but urged him not to trade his pace for something else. Aaron's intensity was impressive in the two Tests that he played in England, taking five wickets.

"I think India's biggest problem has always been that they haven't got an express, out-and-out fast bowler," McGrath said. "I mentioned Varun Aaron, who bowls good pace, but the rest, you can say, are probably medium-pacers, so then you've got to be able to swing the ball, you've got to be able to build pressure.

"I've done a bit of work with Varun at the MRF pace foundation. I've been impressed with his attitude and the way he goes about things. The thing that is special about him is that pace. He has to bowl 145-plus, up around that 150 km mark. He can't afford to lose that, so the one thing he doesn't want to do, and what most bowlers really shouldn't be doing, is trading pace for something else. You need that control, no doubt about that, but you need to keep what makes you so special. So for someone like Varun Aaron, he needs to be bowling 145-150 kph for him to be in the Indian team."

Glenn McGrath was in India on behalf of Tourism Australia to invite Indians to visit and experience Australia during next year's World Cup

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 30, 2014, 14:43 GMT)

Ok Glenn I understood what you told but India will give the same reply again against Aussies in 2017 home series like they did in 2013.So lets see what will the Aussies do at that time

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 23, 2014, 14:25 GMT)

@thozar: Sure, England only won in India because of Cook and KP... The fact that three of the top five bowlers of the series were English (Swann, Panesar and Anderson) had nothing to do with it right? Oh I forgot... Anderson doesn't bowl well outside of England apparently, and India are excellent players of spin so I think Swann and Panesar were forced to bowl seamers all series. Seniors out of form too - yup, got it, that must be it. Gosh, Australia are in for a right thrashing eh... Hope MJ can bowl some spinners or he's going to look foolish!

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (August 22, 2014, 12:10 GMT)

For Australia, we need quick bowlers like Yadav, Aron, and Shami, and Ishant (if fit). Due to lack of lateral movement, Bhuvi won't be of much use in Australia. Batting is a bigger problem. Give a chance to India A players who did so well there - KL Rahul, Kedar Jhadav, Naman Ojha, etc.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 22, 2014, 8:04 GMT)

Question is, can India last more than 2.5-3 days in a test match in Australia! That they are going to lose 4-0 is an absolute given based on their showing in England. As an Indian fan I'm totally disgusted with their lack of fight. Losing is acceptable as Ravi says it's the manner. All cricket fans deserve better!

Posted by 5wombats on (August 22, 2014, 7:28 GMT)

@thozar on (August 20, 2014, 17:37 GMT) you say: "We (India) also can beat England in India". BUT YOU DIDN'T DID YOU? Fact is - India lost that 2012 series in India 2-1 after being 1-0 up. If India were this fine and mighty team as you claim - then you would think that they would be able to thrash England, wouldn't you? Horrible things aren't they, facts.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 5:54 GMT)

@thozar. Dhawan made a century in INDIA. Not Australia. Sehwag has been dropped. Not to mention, his century was in ENGLISH conditions. Generally, Australian conditions are faster and bouncier, very different from that off an English pitch.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on (August 22, 2014, 4:57 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx, spot on. People don't say it enough. Pick the best team, rebuilding is nonsense, age is irrelevant. Lehman picked a team on form for the last Ashes, Flower picked one on past achievements and potential. Lehmann 5, Flower 0.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 2:58 GMT)

Remember that Zaheer almost bowled India to a win in the 1st test last time in Aus - unfortunately India went downhill pretty rapidly from there, as they seem to have a habit of doing in series longer than 2/3 tests - twice losing to England when ahead etc. I think they`ll be a much stronger proposition in Aus than they were in England for those last 3 tests. I can see them drawing a test, perhaps pinching one, but realistically it`s very hard to see them beating Aus in Aus at the moment. 3-0 Aus is my pick. Looking forward to it.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (August 22, 2014, 2:57 GMT)

@thozar: Mickey Arthur said it was the worst pitch he had ever seen in his life, it was a day 5 wicket on the first day. To make it worse, a week after the tests, the curators rolled out a green seamer for an IPL game. Anyway, at least Australia has won seires in India, the same can't be said about India in Australia.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 2:54 GMT)

I tend to agree with AnoMaLy about the bowling line-up. I`d probably go with Ashwin ahead of Jadeja for the spinner\all-rounder spot - probably Ashwin based on his batting. Whoever plays as the spinner is probably just going to need to tie up an end, bowl pretty tight, and nab the odd wicket. Either of those blokes could do that job.

Calls for Zaheer(excellent bowler, clearly india`s best last time out in Aus, but at 36? and unfit?), Harbajhan (couldn`t come to terms with Oz pitches even in his prime), Sehwag and Gambhir (both passengers last time and 3 years older now) strike me as very poor options - probably only Zaheer (if fit) would I consider.

I think India have some excellent young batsmen who will probably enjoy the Aus conditions more than England - conversely, their bowlers will probably find it a bit tougher, particularly Bhuvi. They also have to get their fielding (particularly in the slips) sorted out - it`s an absolute must in Aus if you want to compete.

Posted by AnoMaLy on (August 21, 2014, 20:43 GMT)

I would pick Bhuvi, Yadav, Aaron and Ishant as the 4 pacers and maybe Jaddu as the allrounder unless its Adelaide then India could pick Ashwin as the 5th bowler/allrounder. Also India needs to look for a new opening partner for Vijay or even look at two new openers. Might have to look at the domestic scene and see who might be the next best opener. Dhawan, Gambhir and Vijay have been given enough chances and are just not good enough unless playing at home. Why dont we try a youngster like KL Rahul who is technically correct?? Also K Jadhav can be drafted in the lower middle order in place of Rahane? India has to think differently as the current formula is not working.

Posted by thozar on (August 21, 2014, 18:10 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx says that India won against Oz only because we dropped the non-performers and prepared pitches that were 'worse'. Perhaps he could define 'worse' for us. We could also say that Oz prepared worst pitches when we toured there last time. Fact of the matter is India could have fielded any 11 players and we would have still won 4-0. Teams like Oz and Eng have always been poor in India. Eng won because they had Cook and KP play the series of their lives and also because some of our seniors were out of form. Dont forget that Sehwag scored a century in the very first match of the Eng series. Be thankful he did not play the Oz series. Even Dhawan played only 1 test and creamed your bowlers. Imagine if we got the best 11 players for all 4 tests. We would have won by an innings every game inside 3 days.

Oz fans never cease to amaze me with their big talk. They never admit that they are poor in India. They blame the pitches, conditions, everything under the sun.

Posted by SevereCritic on (August 21, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

Australian pitches have less lateral movement. But they have more bounce and pace. Aussie pacers also bowl faster than their English counterparts. So, the challenges are very different in Australia compared to England. Being able to play short fast balls aimed at your ribs when they are not aimed to knock your head off is generally very important in Australia. This is also why most Aussie batsmen are very good pullers and cutters. Glen McGrath is being fairly generous with his assessment. I do not see the current Indian team with their current captain winning a single session in any of the 4 test matches, let alone win an entire match.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (August 21, 2014, 15:50 GMT)

@Landl47: I think Boof's strategy is looking at the game as a game by game proposition. We are used to cycles in cricket, a group of players coming in, playing for a few years, then moving on with new players coming in who play for a few years before moving on etc. That process goes on and on. From the looks of it though, Boof just picks the best team available on the day based on skill. Skill is, and always will be the single most important factor in deciding a cricket match. Whether that skill is possessed by a 17 or 37 year old.

There doesn't have to be a cycle. Rebuilding is a myth, just pick the best players and don't look too far ahead - you never know what can happen. the most important thing is that Australia wins, it doesn't matter who.

Posted by AsherCA on (August 21, 2014, 15:35 GMT)

Much as I want to argue with Glen McGrath - India have sent to England a team which needs a 6th batsman in the 11 becaue after the Lords' test, the first 5 decided to show the world tha they can't bat (Rahane & Vijay battd decently in the first test & then, chose to joi their on-performing friends, rather than getting the non-perormers to join them!). In addition, the batsmen can't bowl worse - they catch the ball either, all 5 of them became passengers! No team can win with 5 passengers. All Glen is saying is - if this is how India play in Australia, the Aussies will bea us 4-0......and he's right. it would be a shame if they didn't beat a side with 5 passengers 4-0.

Posted by SL_rockz on (August 21, 2014, 15:32 GMT)

The humiliating way defeats with england in last 3 matches have given enough evidence for a 4-0 whitewash. But still its really tuff to say before the start of the series that india will loose 4-0. Mcgrath is playing a mind game. But i believe everybody is a home track hero except SA in this era. SA are the only people to face well even in foreign grounds . Australia also received a similar whitewash in India and now they will wait for indians. Poor pre match build up and form will forecast a white wash for India but who knows what will happen.Lets wait and see. :)

Posted by IndianSRTfan on (August 21, 2014, 15:32 GMT)

India 'could' face 4-0 loss in Australia - McGrath.....He might as well have said India 'will' face 4-0 loss in Australia. Keep aside facing Johnson, Siddle on fast, bouncy tracks for a moment. I just looked at the schedule and it appears that India are playing 2 2-day practice games before the series! What's more is that first of those 'practice' games starts 5 days after India finish playing 3rd Test against the touring WI team at Motera!! So basically no rest, no preparation, no acclimatisation for a 4-test series against 2nd ranked test team in the world. It's astonishingly stupid planning to say the least.

What's the point of even discussing team combinations and potential performers when the players are not only going to be tired but completely ill-prepared? This is not an Indian fan coming up with excuses for potential losses but you gotta wonder if we are even giving a young team their best chance to compete, let alone win?

Posted by Cricfever_PM on (August 21, 2014, 14:28 GMT)

It's too early to attack touring team and we didn't expect this from the player we respect, winning and losing is part of game and your team have been Torched by almost all the team and even you lose almost every serious in home and abroad for last 3 to 4 years, just after Ashes you got better team courtesy to Johnson and 4 of your players in playing XI are above 35 and after one or two years Aus will be back to square one so give respect to touring team and attack during the serious but not well before.

Posted by Cricsnake on (August 21, 2014, 14:21 GMT)

Though India lost the last couple of matches in England, I don't think India is that much vulnerable. Aussies will do their best to win 4-0 as a revenge for their whitewash at India. But this time team India is different. Actually they got BOWLERS. experienced Ishant will be the spearhead. Aaron, Yadav could bowl some thunderbolts and Bhuvi & Shami could swing well. That might not easy for Aussie batters as well. Ashwin also could star if he get the chance to bowl in 4-5th days. Only issue is with Indian batsmen as they are extremely inconsistent on fast tracks. If Indian batsmen do well, the results would be better. Good Luck both teams.

Posted by jonesy2 on (August 21, 2014, 14:05 GMT)

well based on indias disgrace against a very very very very very poor england side it will be 4 absolute maulings

Posted by landl47 on (August 21, 2014, 13:36 GMT)

@dunger.bob: I've seen quicker, too, notably Shoaib Akhtar and Brett Lee, but not many and not for an extended period of time. Johnson averaged about about 148kph, which is pretty darned quick. He also moved the ball and got lift, as you say. He was brilliantly handled by Clarke, using his full pace in short bursts.

Like you, I think Rhino was a big part of his success. I rate Rhino as a great bowler and it's just a pity that his health couldn't keep up with his heart. At 35,how much longer can he keep going? It wasn't far short of a miracle that he played 12 successive tests in 2013/4 before breaking down again.

With Johnson in his 2013/4 form and Harris bowling at the other end. Australia are irresistible.

Posted by landl47 on (August 21, 2014, 13:27 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan: Haddin played all the tests in 2010/11 and was Aus's 2nd best batsman after Mike Hussey. Johnson played all the tests except the second, for which he was dropped after getting 0-170 odd in the first. Harris played 2 1/2 tests (injured after getting 0-90 in the 4th test).

Warner, Lyon and Rogers weren't in the side and are significant additions. Steve Smith played 3 tests and had moderate returns, but since he was only 21 he can't be compared to the player he is today.

Johnson and Harris were brilliant in the 3rd test at Perth and if they bowl like that India will be blown away. However, both took 9 wickets in that test and did nothing otherwise- Johnson 6 wickets in the other 3 tests he played and Harris 2 in his 1 1/2.

The Aus problem now is age. By 1/1/2015: Johnson 33, Harris 35, Rogers and Haddin 37, Watson 33, Clarke 34, Siddle 30. Smith at 25 is the youngest in the side. Experience, yes, but youth?

The difference between 0-3 and 5-0 was MJ. Simple as that.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 21, 2014, 12:53 GMT)

Then again when Australia touring India they will lose 4-0. Then services get restored. Oh my, everyone is tiger at home.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 21, 2014, 11:14 GMT)

Exactly Victor Wilson as this current Australian team is nothing like the team between 2010-2012 as players like Rogers , Smith and even Haddin and Johnston weren't even in the team during that period and not to mention how Warner , Harris and Lyon have come on leaps and bounds since then as the fact this Australian team was able to beat SA in SA just recently speaks volumes as the team is packed full of experience and younger blood so things couldn't be better actually. Think it's just sour grapes from all the Poms who mention that period as they are still hurting over the 5-0 drubbing.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 21, 2014, 10:57 GMT)

India should loose 4 - 0 they gonna get beaten all games without playing 5days

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

Everyone talks about how Australia still has the same problems they had back in the 2010-2012 era. I'm positive that less well known players of Australia can prove themselves that Australia isn't just about Clarke, and the big bowling unit.

Posted by gmsjgmsj on (August 21, 2014, 10:43 GMT)

Few corrections to be made to McGrath's as well as from column followers: 1. Does the suppostion of 4-0 defeat of India also guarantee the defeat of Australia 4-0 when they tour India next? People have selective amnesia.. Before the tour of India, Australia was supposed to fight tooth and nail. But everyone knows what happenned.

2. In the 2011 tour, the Aussie pitches were seaming so much that even Benaud acknowledged that he hadnt seen like that before. They were tailor made for swing bowling and no one can fault CA for that. Each host country needs to prepare what suits them.

3. Going by statistics in last decade, 50% of series hosted by countries have been clean swept by them! Now thats a trend one cant ignore. Everyone is irrefutably becoming a lion in his den. So, there should be no surprises is Australia do sweep 4-0. Nor will it be if India return the favor again when they tour the latter. Call it history repeating itself untiringly. Hmm.

Posted by Biggus on (August 21, 2014, 10:42 GMT)

@cricket_heart:- I'd rather India didn't employ any of our former Australian cricketers as coaching staff. Our blunt and forthright manner just rubs the 'Superstar' Indian egos up the wrong way, the end result is a disaster and we have to listen to Indian posters talking about how evil they were for years afterwards. Our coaches would prescribe stiff medicine which the Indian players will refuse to take. Please pick someone else to blame for the Indian cricket team's failure.

Posted by cricket_heart on (August 21, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

Mr. Mc Grath's Comment is true. India will loss the Test Series in Autralia 4-0. Current Indian Test Players did not like to play test cricket, this mentality shown in England. Head Coach Fletcher is not fit with our team players. What is he planning for win? and How to motivate and correcting of players mistakes. He did not do any thing. Indian Team in 1 Rank in Test place but after under his coaching ???????. Players are not prepared mentally and not ready to fight for Nation prestige. All Players should play from their's heart. So, Fletcher should step down and to be appoint any young coach (all rounder) and fielding and Bowling Coach. In my choice for head coach 1) Andy Flower(ZIM) 2)Kallis(RSA) 3) Lance Klusener(RSA) 4) Stephen Fleming (NZ). 5) Steve Waugh(Aus). 6) Ricky Ricky Ponding(Aus) & Bowling coach 1) Mc Grath(AUS) 2) Daran Fleming ( AUS) 3)Shane Bond (NZ) 4) Pollock(RSA) 5) Chaminda Vaas (SL) 6)Fanie de Villiers (RSA) 7) Kallis(RSA) 8 ) Allon Donald.

Posted by ABHIUPPU on (August 21, 2014, 10:21 GMT)

If this prediction by Piegeon needs to be proved wrong, Indian team has to work out of their skins before the tour Down Under. The west indies tour should not be seen as chance to redeem as Indians are expected to do well in home conditions. Ravi Shastri should come up with a comprehensive list of to-do's for both BCCI and individual players from his overseeing assignment during ODI's. And as so many others have already said, Jadeja should not be on that flight to Oz else it will send very bad signals to other players in domestic circuit

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (August 21, 2014, 10:10 GMT)

With worlds best quick Jonson @ his menacing best coming from long rest,training its going to be knockout for Ind again in Aussie land.No need to mention the rest of worlds best pace pack,all of who are superior to Engs best Broad,Jimmy.4-0 Aus.publish

Posted by Ishraq97 on (August 21, 2014, 9:53 GMT)

The Countries which speaks in English,always beat India. I'm from Bangladesh and my country is beaten or defeated all the time. What is wrong with the South Asian,the Indian subcontinent.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 9:53 GMT)

Former Australia fast bowler Glenn McGrath has suggested nothing new .even a kid can predict a series loss for India..

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 21, 2014, 9:27 GMT)

@Dunger.Bob. Couldn't agree more regarding Johnston's length's as ask Amla during the first test recently in SA as his first ball he went to move on the front foot and ended up getting hit in the front grill of his helmet as he misread his length ( youtube it as an amazing delivery) and obviously add 95mph onto that too so easy to see why. I can't see anything other than atleast a 3-0 Australian win as India don't have the attack to take 20 wickets in Australia , as can see Australia batting only once in each test if India bowl the same way to Australia and could be embarrassing if Australia's bowlers bowl like they did against England and SA recently.

Posted by _-Will-_ on (August 21, 2014, 9:17 GMT)

Some suggestions keep recurring in this and other cricinfo threads: Sehwag, Harbajhan, Zaheer, Yuvraj...

Incredible!

I'm not going to bother with the age argument - refer to S. Chanderpaul for that one.

Just consider that our youngest players are straining, if not breaking down, after just 2-3 tests. Some have been mishandled by Dhoni right enough, but clearly the bar for physical fitness is set way too low. Zaheer gave it a shot in SA and NZ. Anyone who watched him bowl his second, third spells etc will know that he is physically unable to cope. The less said about his fielding the better. The others have also had their chances in less demanding conditions and failed. Do we really want four seniors chasing leather in the hot Australian sun for four tests? And if a cautionary tale is still necessary just refer to the recent Gambhir experiment.

Give deserving youngsters a chance.

Be firm but fair.

Set realistic goals- expect no miracles.

Monitor progress.

Adjust as necessary.

Posted by venbas on (August 21, 2014, 9:12 GMT)

Very true...its rare for the bowlers to click...and even if they click the fielders put down catches...and with the form and patience shown by the key batting superstars...it will be a miracle if Indian manages even a draw or close defeat in any of the tests. 4-0 is a reality and this Indian team need not even bother to turn up in Australia to face such humiliation all over again...

Posted by dunger.bob on (August 21, 2014, 8:39 GMT)

@ jefftothejones: It wasn't raw pace that did England in either. Johnson is fairly fast but I've seen quicker. It was more his lengths coupled with the late swing or seam. On top of that he was getting good length balls to jump and threaten the upper torso/head area. In other words Johnson was bowling at a reasonable clip but getting the ball to duck, weave, spit and generally give the batsman heart attacks. .. that definitely sounds like something the Indians will eat for breakfast.

Posted by passi2638 on (August 21, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

india has ability to take 20 australian wickets with umesh and aaron pacy combination and bhuvi and ishy swing. others need to build pressure unlike what pankaj did in england has gone over 4 which makes life easy for batsmen. coming batting we need to learn how to leave balls which, since dhoni cannot bat for all 11 batsmen.

Posted by ramli on (August 21, 2014, 8:23 GMT)

@thozar ... so you want Sehwag to face the same thing what Gambhir did in Eng ... nice way to get rid of non-performers once for all ... but first, Sehwag must get fit to start running between the wickets properly and be available for a long-tour, then bat well, field well, sometimes bowl ... long ask if you ask me

Posted by Biggus on (August 21, 2014, 7:39 GMT)

Well, apparently India don't have trouble with fast bouncy pitches but only prodigious swing. This is what their fans tell us, yet while they've won a series in England in the past they've never managed that in Australia. Somehow the claims don't match the facts it would seem. 4-0 barring rain issues.

Posted by rajcl on (August 21, 2014, 7:10 GMT)

i dont think may be 3-0 or 2-1 for australia because , indian batsman not that bad for seam pitches like SA or AUS because there is no too much swing in the air like ENG or NZ, indian batsman worst when ball swungs lot , they will average or good when pace & bounce is there

Posted by jefftothejones on (August 21, 2014, 7:03 GMT)

Personally I think swing did more damage to India than raw pace, which means Australia will be less of a threat than England were. Sad to say it, but Australia also have no spinners capable of making the impact Moeen had.

India isn't alone in having a weakness to quality swing bowling. Aussies don't seem to deal well with it either. Even the champion 2005 side fell to it. Which could be why the Aussies were knocked over in England with the Duke ball and then destroyed England in Australia with the kookaburra.

Posted by Abuzar_navedK on (August 21, 2014, 6:55 GMT)

Indian players don't seem to be interested in playing Test cricket, specially overseas. The way they played test series against England showed as if they wanted to finish it ASAP without caring much about the result, or i would say that 5 test mach series is too long for them. In the first two tests India performed really well, but after that their performance went down.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 6:53 GMT)

@ Peter Sobrinho on (August 21, 2014, 4:53 GMT)

I agree with all the points made by you. Our major problem is in our inability to cope with swing, in seaming conditions, that too facing balls at around 140 km/hr. Even the bowlers are unsure about the right line and length in such conditions.

I had been crying out loud for a very long time, for our top cricketers going through the English County experience. I strongly feel, such an experience on a variety of pitches in England would make them better cricketers, who can perform all around the world.

As far as practicing facilities within India, I would like to see a national branch of NCA to be located at Dharmsala. Its high altitude and cloudy conditions, embellished with green pitches, can simulate the conditions which are missing in other Indian locales. Every cricketer, who is considered for national duty, despite whatever records they may have in Ranji and/or IPL should be put through the Dharmadsala unit of NCA.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (August 21, 2014, 6:22 GMT)

@Dunger.bob: Well said. Both times Australia won the series in SA and AUS, it was Harris who finished it off. If Harris retires tomorrow, the image of him bowling AUS to victory on one leg in the dying minutes of the cape town test is how he should always be remembered. Absolute champion.

Posted by android_user on (August 21, 2014, 6:21 GMT)

let's include Shewag in Aussie tour! His experience and aggressive cricket will give some cushion to other batsmen to settle down and extra time fir bowlers to take 20 wickets!

Posted by Chennai_Cricket on (August 21, 2014, 6:15 GMT)

Already australia faced 4-0 in india,

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 5:43 GMT)

I believe India would have a tough series in Australia, and in all fairness it might well be 4-0. Though I am not sure MJ would be star for Australia. He is know to go through his ups and downs ...!

Indian Batting has been abysmal playing abroad and the bowling (with the help of the catching or should I say not) never looks like taking 20 wickets. I for one believe Ojha should be there in the team, if Dhoni thinks that we can only win if we get a contribution from Jadeja/ Ashwin with the bat while they go in there as their reputation as spinners (who just can't take wickets abroad) we are not going to win.

Finally, Dhoni should realize that he is not cut out to be a test captain, his reading of the game in One dayers and T20 is probably the best by a fair distance, but when it comes to test matches and the lack of team supporting him, he looks lost. We need a captain like Ganguly who took almost the same team and made them believe that they could win....

Posted by anver777 on (August 21, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

If IND couldn't handle a young ENG team properly, I wonder how can they handle a strong AUS team... it will be a "BIG TEST" for Indians, certainly more than the ENG tour ????

Posted by _-Will-_ on (August 21, 2014, 5:00 GMT)

For anyone worrying about the Johnson threat, during the last tour, India didn't face Johnson but were blown away instead by Harris, Hilfenhaus & Siddle. I think Starc played one match where four quicks were used? And Lyon has improved since.

@dunger.bob on (August 21, 2014, 4:03 GMT) makes a good point about Harris' role in the overall dynamics of the Australian bowling lineup.

I've always regarded Siddle as equally important - irritatingly accurate and his determination is beyond reproach. The perfect third quick. I can't find any recent articles on Harris, or Siddle for that matter. Is Siddle still out trying to regain pace?

I suppose we might get a few clues in the UAE soon. I hope Pakistan get a good selection happening and find their mojo. If so, it should be a good contest.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 4:53 GMT)

The only way pace can be created and natured in India is to prepare fast, green pitches in India in places of high altitude. With today's technology and finances that BCCI possesses, this has to be done without any further waste of time. Batsmen can also learn to face a rising/swinging ball. Indians have to spend a lot of time in practice before such tours instead of playing on dirt tracks and IPL at most times. Lastly, the BCCI should sponsor players to the English County League. Another way to learn to play on hard surfaces - or play on concrete if nothing else works!!!! This rut of India losing abroad has to end. BCCI should fnd a way.

Posted by landl47 on (August 21, 2014, 4:48 GMT)

Since thozar has questioned Glen McGrath's ability as a predicter of games, I thought it might be interesting to review thozar's last prediction in the 5th test against England. At the end of the second day, India had made 148 and England were 385-7. The thozar prediction: India would restrict England's lead to 250, ie take the last 3 wickets for 13. They would then bat for 2 days and declare (I am not making this up) having scored 580. England would fold up and be bowled out on the last day, giving India the win.

The reality: England's last 3 wickets made 101 in 11.3 overs. India were bowled out for 94 in 29.2 overs.

Support your team by all means, thozar. Don't try to make a living predicting results.

Posted by wapuser on (August 21, 2014, 4:34 GMT)

4-0 seems about right against the aussies

Posted by landl47 on (August 21, 2014, 4:19 GMT)

The most interesting thing to me about the series will be how Mitch Johnson goes. He had one of the greatest seasons of all time last year- 59 wickets @15 apiece against England and South Africa. If he bowls like that again then with even moderate support India are in trouble.

However, Australia are skating on rather thin ice. Harris will be 35 soon and is still recovering from his latest injury. Will he be fit? Siddle seems to have lost pace in the last couple of years. Most of the young guns (Pattinson, Starc, Cummins and Hazlewood) have been injured and only Pattinson has achieved much in the last 2 years. The group below them- Bird, Sayers, Cutting, Sandhu- are unproven at test level. It's really all down to MJ.

I like India's batting a little more against Aus than against England, because the ball won't swing as much. How their bowlers will take 20 wickets, especially with such poor close catching, is another matter.

Aus to win. MJ's form to decide by how much.

Posted by _-Will-_ on (August 21, 2014, 4:16 GMT)

I think my last comment reflects the lowering of my own expectations regarding the Indian test team. I wrote "...so long as every effort was expended in trying to avoid the loss".

Oh dear.

It really should have been "...that every effort was expended in TRYING TO WIN!"

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 4:14 GMT)

It should not read "they could". They would face 4-0 loss if it doesnt rain for 3 out of 5 days

Posted by dunger.bob on (August 21, 2014, 4:03 GMT)

The only prediction I'm going to make is that if Harris doesn't play the entire dynamic of our bowling setup will change. I don't think enough fans, especially the overseas one, really understand how good a bowler the Rhino actually is. I'd like them to consider this: Do you think it would have been possible to persist in bowling Johnson in those 3-5 over spells if the batsmen were making merry at the other end. .. times up, I'll tell you. No damn way.

@ xtrafalgarx: It's a tricky one with our pensioners. I couldn't believe Haddins form in the Ashes. Career best imo and Rogers has been a real bonus so far. But, they're both at the age when things can start to go downhill at breakneck speed. To use a couple of my favourite cliches - it's best to stop the rot early and nip it in the bud, but at the same time you need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Posted by _-Will-_ on (August 21, 2014, 3:38 GMT)

Of course McGrath is correct. The 4-0 prediction was made on the assumption of minimal change from the Indians with regard to: batting, bowling and fielding.

In addition to those three departments, there are obviously many others that are vital to ensure the team fulfills their maximum potential. Many cricket fans wish only this much for their own team - and for both teams should they desire a genuine competition. As has been said many times before, many of us can accept loss so long as every effort was expended in trying to avoid the loss.

In addition to a strong team ethos, diligent and proactive captaincy & selections, competent coaching, willingness of players to follow good instructions, etc, the issue of preparation is also highly significant.

If India wish to compete in Australia, and have checked all the above boxes and those not mentioned, they will still need to arrive earlier. History shows that a couple of short and inconsequential practice matches simply won't do it.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (August 21, 2014, 3:37 GMT)

I will say one thing though. I have felt with India, in these past few years always gets a practice run vs. England before Australia. When England won in India, India still had the likes of Harbajhan, Yuvraj, Sehwag, Gambir - guys who were past it playing. After that England series, they refined their squad and dropped the non performers, made sure the pitches were even worse than when England played and ambushed us.

Now they have gone to SA,NZ,ENG in swinging, seaming conditions before they face us. There are no excuses if they lose here, it won't be for lack of practice.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 3:25 GMT)

As a SL......wish India a goodluck........you can do better in Aus.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (August 21, 2014, 3:21 GMT)

@Dunger.bob: Not only that, but Rogers and Hadds too. I'm starting to feel that we should chop off the dead wood before it's too late.

Posted by dunger.bob on (August 21, 2014, 3:14 GMT)

Do we know for sure that Ryan Harris is going to be fit and in good enough nick to play if he is? In fact, can anyone say for sure that his career isn't already finished? .. Not that I wish that upon the mighty man, but I think it's a possibility that we Aussies should be keeping in the back of our minds.

Posted by Sol09 on (August 21, 2014, 2:55 GMT)

Indian players need to play overseas more often to experience different conditions.

Posted by MelbourneMiracle on (August 21, 2014, 2:54 GMT)

@ Cricket_theBestGame: Even with your prediction, still your team India is going to lose the series..aren't they?

Posted by jmcilhinney on (August 21, 2014, 2:53 GMT)

One has to take McGrath's predicted scorelines with a grain of salt because he basically just predicts that Australia will never lose a game. That said, his evaluations of teams' actual capabilities is a little more realistic and he probably has the right of it here. Mitchell Johnson didn't win the Ashes single-handedly but he was undoubtedly the difference between the teams. England just couldn't play him and even SA had trouble with him on their home turf. India were undone mostly by swing and, to a lesser extent, seam in England and, while there won't be quite so much of that on offer in Australia, India aren't renowned for playing pace and bounce either. It will also be interesting to see how Nathan Lyon fares, after Moeen Ali having such success in England. Australia's batting wasn't great against England but improved as they gained confidence from their bowlers and they were better again in SA. They also played Swann very well so spin may not be a weapon for India either.

Posted by Chris_P on (August 21, 2014, 2:28 GMT)

@thozar India would have won in 03 & 07?? They lost 07 and drew 03 without McGrath & Warne and being served up roads for pitches unlike any Australian pitches before & since. Now that your stating facts, let's share some, India have NEVER won in Australia, NEVER won in South Africa, haven't won a test series in Sri Lanka since 1996, and have won only 1 test out of the last 17 on the road, yet you still persist with the luck theme? Have you ever played a serious game of cricket in your life, let alone seen a match? Luck, umpires & conditions are the sole reason India lost? Stop chewing those sour grapes, lad.

Posted by Cricket_theBestGame on (August 21, 2014, 1:59 GMT)

macgrath always gives these predictions :) i think india will bounce back as they usually do in aus..the conditions won't be as swing friendly as in england. they need to take control of the team selection and not let Dhoni decide on his gut feel!

but one thing that does favour mcgrath's prediction is johnson! if he bowls like he did in ashes, i'm afraid indian batsmen won't be able to cope. otherwise i'm going to give 2-0 aussie way with 1 draw and possibly 1 washout

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

First of all india ,,needs to find a bowling coach like wasim akram ,,who can tell them which line and length to bowl on different conditions, and in the slips they need a regular set of fielders there ,,they can't chopping and changing their slip cordon every second match ,,on the batting KL Rahul and Karun Nair of karnataka seems to have good techinque to be successed at international level ,they should be given the chance ,I know Umesh Yadav has let us down every time ,except for some spells in the last trip downunder ,,but again there comes the need of bowling coach ,Virat and Pujara has a 1 bad series and i am sure they will be coming stronger after this ,rahane is good ,, don't expect Gambhir to play for india again ,rohit, dhawan ,jadeja are not test match players they only know how to bat on indian conditions , We need to include a genuine spinner ,,i like the look of karn sharma ,and he can also tonk some ,,And in last pleaseeee Bcci get rid of dhoni as a test captain

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 1:20 GMT)

Repercussion of having mediocre talent in your side. There aren't world class players in Indian side since retirement of Ganguly & Dravid.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 21, 2014, 1:08 GMT)

One doesn't need to be the great Glenn McGrath to predict this upcoming score line! Anything else would be a surprise even to the Indian cricket team! Few changes can be done to try win or at least draw 1 of the 4 tests. 1 - MSD to be dropped, as he will never quit in the name of being strong! 2 - Saha or Samson to keep so they take at least few catches and stay at the wicket for 20 runs. 3 - Varun Aaron and Umesh Yadav must be playing at least the first two tests together , and if possible one more of the remaining two. 4 - that means India needs 5 bowlers. Bhuvi Kumar the inevitable third, fourth is a toss up between Ishant/Pankaj/Shami/Pandey. Fifth can be Ashwin/Rasool/Akshar Patel all can bat a bit and bowl 10-15 overs a day to hold one end as none of their spin will have any impact on Aus wickets. Play Rohit on all tests. He is not going to do worse than what others did in Eng. It will be his final final chance to prove what he is really capable of. Plus he plays a bit of horizontal cut, pull shots that suit Aus wickets. Find another opener who can stay with vijay for at least 8-10 overs or the first hour of play. Anything else would be a bonus.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 0:58 GMT)

First thing I would say, which I personally have done. Instead of spending whole yearplaying domestic cricket in India. They need to go out and play some county cricket or other mixed league cricket. BCCI should encourage all this young talent to travel around to get more experience overseas. I like the fact that Gambhir thought out of norm and played some county cricket but unfortunately couldn't utilize the experience. But this is the only way they can save their reputation.

Posted by thozar on (August 21, 2014, 0:21 GMT)

Sehwag is also a must for Oz tour. Everyone knows how he loves to feast on Oz bowling. Fans will still remember his 195 in Melbourne on the first day of the test. Fans would also have not forgotten his wonderful 155 in Adelaide in the next tour. That time also India SOSed Sehwag. And these Oz teams were better than the current one. I hope the BCCI gives him another opportunity to show what he can do. On his day there is no batsman in the world who is more destructive than the Delhi man. Please BCCI let us get these 3 seniors at least for this tour. I think Dhawan would also shine in Oz but if he does not do very well then we can give him some time off and play Sehwag.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 0:20 GMT)

not likely but definitely 4-0

Posted by Pinnacle99 on (August 21, 2014, 0:15 GMT)

I expect to see a very different Indian team when they tour Australia. There are too many exceptionally talented cricketers in India for them to stay down for too long. But Australia will come at India very hard. It will be hostile and it will be true test match cricket. If India are up for the challenge then its going to be a great series. But if things don't go their way like it did against England and they wilt then they are going to get smashed. I believe there is too much pride in Indian cricket to let this happen again.

Posted by thozar on (August 21, 2014, 0:13 GMT)

Here is a suggestion. India could really use the services of the experienced Zaheer and Harbhajan in this tour. Zaheer is the leader of the attack and I think he is the most skilled bowler in the world (sorry Anderson and Cook). He may not have the pace of Steyn or Johnson but he comes with a bag full of tricks. He is a thinking bowler. No batsmen especially the Oz ones would want to face Zaheer.

We have tried other spinners but no one has so far exhibited the guile of Harbhajan. Same like Zaheer, no batsmen wants to face Harbhajan in his pomp. This may be a wonderful farewell for these 2 senior pros. The young bowlers can learn a lot bowling alongside them. I am sure these 2 guys would have made a big difference in both the current England tour and the previous one.

I like Ashwin, I really do but he should be played as a batsman in away tours. Sorry Jaddu, but you need to work a lot harder to get back into the test team.

Posted by LoungeChairCritic on (August 20, 2014, 23:50 GMT)

I strongly believe that much of test cricket is played above the shoulders. Test match cricket seems to be not as important to Indian cricketers as it once was. Probably 80% of their annual income is probably generated two months of work in the IPL. Although playing for your country should be a honour, international cricketers are human beings and it is understandable why the IPL is their 1st priority. Moving forward I think it is important that Indian supporters support their country just as hard as they do their IPL teams. Test match cricket and 20/20 are both fantastic to watch and each have a place in the international calendar. Although it is not as lucrative as 20/20, the BCCI needs to be creative and brave in supporting test match cricket. It would be fantastic to see 80,000 fanatical India fans packed into Eden Gardens once again to watch test match cricket.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 23:48 GMT)

@Ian Jones - what are you talking about? I'll grant you that there doesn't appear to be any great batsmen coming through but Sam Whiteman (wk/bat) looks to be something very special and we have so many quality fast bowlers that it doesnt matter if they keep getting injured because we can just plug another one in.

You should be more worried about your own back yard - who are England's up and coming stars? Root (see ashes 2013/14), Robson (Couldnt make it in Aus) and who are the fast bowlers behind Anderson and Broad??? Finn?? Rankin?? Jordan?? PLEASE!

Look out for Gurinder Sandhu coming through as well - he may even be the best of the bunch. Has Indian parents but it as Australian as the come (unlike some of the English team may I point out)

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (August 20, 2014, 23:38 GMT)

cont..They did W @ Lords but had more to do with Eng bats throwing caution,and sense to wind in that 1 session.They did'nt do that much better in SA either where although bowling was higher quality,pitches were flat by usual stds.Was some bounce though.

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 20, 2014, 23:35 GMT)

I have to agree with mcgrath. I am not impressed with varun arron though because i think he is too short to bowl fast unless he has malcolm marshall shoulders and thighs. The india find out and 150kmph fast bowler , india will rout all the teams. Every one thought Ishant sharma going to be bigger than kapil dev. But he flattered to decieve for me. He just do not have brain to make his own path to greatness. He needs to spoon fed everytime. B kumar is good but he is too slow to be main bowler. Muhammed sami is lively but he is putting lots effort to be lively. Also his actions have too many motions when it goes wrong it goes awfully wrong.

Posted by vik56in on (August 20, 2014, 23:25 GMT)

@Sateesh Thota .Do you even follow cricket ? Akash Chopra and Sanjay Bangar have retired long time ago and you want them as openers. What planet are you living in?

Posted by chechong0114 on (August 20, 2014, 23:23 GMT)

About 6 months before this test series started I had commented on an article written on this website where I said that India would not win a single test match in England this summer. My reason for saying that was not because I did not believe in the talent of the Indian players which I still believe is tremendous but because I felt they we too tired from too much cricket and they were not well rested for such a huge series. The mere fact that they were able to win the Lords test match and draw first blood in the series has shown how talented this Indian cricket team really is and how much of a fighting spirit Dhoni and his men do really have. In my personal opinion India's cricket team is still one of the best in the world, their presence is too heavily relied on for revenue world wide and because of this they are failing miserably at the test level overseas. I hope that scheduling will get better for them in 2015 and beyond but I doubt it and that is very sad.

Posted by Chris_P on (August 20, 2014, 22:31 GMT)

@thozar, "It is not the bowlers but the conditions that defeated India in England". Wow, you have totally & I mean totally nailed what cricket is all about. And here the rest of us were thinking it was the skills of the batsmen, bowlers & fielders that were required. And these "conditions", by your statement also contributed to England beating India in India as well? Always good to read such detailed & in depth analysis. Interesting...

Posted by __PK on (August 20, 2014, 21:50 GMT)

Which Mitchel Johnson will turn up, Charlie101? Hopefully the one with two Ls in his first name.

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (August 20, 2014, 21:43 GMT)

I can not see India winning in Australia. Both Mitchell Johnson and Ryan Harris are superior bowlers than either Broad or Anderson. Johnson is in some frightening form as well and the Australians are definitely on a high. Warner has matured as a batsman and it looks as if the Australian batting order has clicked (at least in their home conditions). I can not see India winning a single Test in Australia, and think that they can only draw a maximum of 1 test from the 4 test tour.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 21:32 GMT)

I think he's hit the nail on the head, they need the discipline. Catches win matches, it's more an attitude thing, about being opportunists, aggressive and competitive at every opportunity. I like Dhoni as leader of the side, but I think they should play him purely as a batsman and captain at this point and bring in the best pure gloveman around. Then the coach needs to be someone respected utterly by the players and a strong disciplinarian, fielding drills, being on time all the time, professionalism etc.

I don't see any of that happening, and I think Australia will win by an innings in every match. Why on earth we have to endure four tests of bloodbath only a couple of years removed from the last miserable destruction of India I don't know.

Posted by tests_the_best on (August 20, 2014, 21:23 GMT)

To be honest, I expect Indian batsmen to perform better in Aus although that might not translate into any wins. Kohli already played 4 tough tests last time including a century in Adelaide. Of the first timers, it's reasonable to expect Rahane to perform well. Pujara has more technical problems in swinging conditions than on fast pitches so he might do well so will probably M Vijay. However, the 2nd opener is a problem, so is the no 6 spot.

Frankly Ashwin batted quite well in Aus last time so the team should forget that he bowls and just make him no 6 batsman with any wickets he gets as bonus. Pacers are good, sight of Aaron and Umesh bowling together along with Ishant should be something to look forward to. I think what Ind really needs is someone like Kumble who can make vital strikes and polish off the tail.

Of course one thing that Aus have better than last time is Mitchell Johnson who might easily destroy this batting lineup. But no Ponting/Hussey means their batting is weaker.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 21:14 GMT)

In current scenario McGrath is right to warn India but what about Australian failures when they come to subcontinent especially India and lose game after game? They should learn to play spin also!

Posted by thozar on (August 20, 2014, 21:01 GMT)

@Biggus, why would we expect McGrath to say something that we want to hear. His job is to say what Oz fans like u want to hear. But you should know that even though he says that Oz will win with whitewash for every series, it does not happen every time. When Oz leave their shores, they dont whitewash even a wall.

I can guarantee that India wont be whitewashed this time. Wait and watch.

Posted by thozar on (August 20, 2014, 20:58 GMT)

@Chris_P, I know you dont like facts that dont suit you or your beloved Oz team. ok India lost to England but how long are you going to say the same thing. How many times should we say that England were extremely lucky to win the series. They won only because of Cook and KP. You ask them to come now and play and they will lose worse than we lost in England. Same goes to Oz. Most teams win at home. Even New Zealand won at home. Our defeat to England was our first series defeat at home in 10 years. Now Oz cannot boast that kind of record. They keep losing to Saffers and just 3 years back even lost badly to England at home, hahaha. India would also have won not once but twice in 2003 and 2007 down under.

Posted by JJJake on (August 20, 2014, 20:37 GMT)

Last time India toured Australia ... Australia won 4-0. This new Indian side doesn't look any better than the side Australia beat 4-0..which had so called "greats" in it.

Playing in the subcontinent... Australia a lot better record than some people on this website make out. If you go to the "results" section of this website you'll notice Australia has won 12 test series in the subcontinent. No team from the subcontinent has Ever won a test series in Australia. In 2005 Australia beat India in India..and has won 4 test series in India. India has Never won a test series in Australia..even with all their "greats".

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 20, 2014, 20:04 GMT)

India have to try something different otherwise it will be daily serial . Get Genuine spinners like Amit misra , Chawla or Ojha and get batsman like Kedar Jadhav, Samson needs to be in middle order and include umesh yadav as backup ..can't go with same squad ..May be get a good opener Like Akash chopra or Bangar..get some competition with in the team..new players will value Indian cap than regular players..

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 20, 2014, 19:30 GMT)

India should play with Varun Aaron, Ishant sharma, Bhuvi, Shami and 1 all rounder and 6 batsmens...

Posted by thozar on (August 20, 2014, 19:28 GMT)

@Shripathi Kamath, ok, Oz lost 0-4 in India. When they cannot face the spin of Jaddu, do you think they can face the spin of Herath? But they beat Lanka in Lanka with Herath playing. Same way for India, conditions are different. These are the same batsmen who took on the more threatening Steyn, Philander, and Morkel in S Africa while failing against Anderson and Broad. Steyn is infinitely better than Johnson, Harris, and that trundler Siddle. It is not the bowlers but the conditions that defeated India in England. In Oz there won't be much swing and Oz bowlers can only hurl the cherry fast anyway and don't get swing like the England bowlers. So just because we failed in England does not mean we will fail in Oz. Why is it so hard for fans to understand?

Posted by Chris_P on (August 20, 2014, 19:27 GMT)

McGrath has not predicted 4-0, he has stated it will be 4-0 unless India don't show improvements in all aspects of their cricket. Batting has been discussed, but batting in England in those conditions have always been tough, especially when quality bowlers perform to their optimum. Although they didn't deliver, the Indian batsmen are still quality, they need to re learn their patience. Their techniques will be tested, no doubt there, Adelaide should suit them the best. The Gabba will be their biggest challenge, it is quick, the ball moves about & it bounces. Bowlers, in Australia, need to crank it up, minimum 140 otherwise it is struggle. Kumar, for all his heroics in England, simply hasn't got the pace to deliver in Australia no matter what. The same applies to many of our bowlers who perform in England but not so much here. The biggest improvement has to be the fielding, that was worse than the batting, you have to take catches, you have to support bowlers.

Posted by Chris_P on (August 20, 2014, 19:20 GMT)

@thozar Here you go again, quoting garbage. "Everyone wins at home." Really? When did South Africa become a home to Aus? And I am certain English supporters are shattered as they didn't win in India was well? And I bet the Lankans are happy because they didn't really lose at home to Sth Africa & sad as they didn't win in England prior to India. Yes, you're right, convenient loss of memory always serves the best! Speaking of memory losses, I guess the last home series down here against India didn't happen either? You really need to learn the game before posting about it, sunshine, you embarrass yourself.

Posted by Biggus on (August 20, 2014, 19:16 GMT)

@thozar:- Do please try to get your facts right, McGrath said 4-0 (NOT 5-0) was a possibility. India are not playing 5 tests, so 5-0 will not be a possibility, and you should know that at least. If he thinks that's a fair possibility they WHY should he say otherwise. Another of your criticisms is that he doesn't refer to Australia's loss 3-0 in England or 4-0 in India. Now please tell me how those results are of ANY bearing regarding the coming series in Australia? Finally, we might ask what precisely is the role of an expert commentator, which he is being asked to perform in this interview? Surely it's to give his honest opinion, which I believe he's doing here, or do you really think his job is to tell you what you want to hear?

Posted by Abbas67 on (August 20, 2014, 19:08 GMT)

India needs lots of chances : 1. Change the coach to Ganguly or Dravid, they can make a better relationship with players rather than foreign coaches. 2. Dhoni needs to focus only on his batting now, no need to take captaincy stress and glove work. 3. Gambhir seems a great captaincy option as we have seen in Ranji & IPL matches. 4. Need some good batsmen like Samson, Ojha, Nair, Tiwary. 5. Binny, Rohit & Aaron should play their perfect role in team. 6. Need some bowlers from pace academy & Mishra/Rasool/Hooda/Nadeem must be tried out instead of Jadeja/Ashwin !

Posted by wolf777 on (August 20, 2014, 18:50 GMT)

Dhoni will overbowl Arron and ruin his pace....

Posted by marcs on (August 20, 2014, 18:48 GMT)

Well, the writing is on the wall unless the Desi Boyz come up with some magic...esp.when you are against one of most toughest opponents in their home turf. The Indian players should gear themselves up for the challenge and go prepared for a cocktail of lethal bowling and mind games the Aussies play. One thing for sure, they shouldn't let the ghost of the past (1992 series) haunt them lest it affects our chances during the world cup. The new manager aka director Mr. Shastri who was a part of the touring team then (1992) and has already 'tasted the goods' should hopefully be in a good position to guide the team in the right direction. Good luck to Dhoni and Co to prove McGrath wrong for once.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 18:24 GMT)

Indian bowling is inconsistent & pathetic to survive a full length overseas tour. Ishant takes 5-for in one test and do not take wicket in another. His speed is miserable. He is in the team as we have not tested others. Varun Aaron has speed but lack experience & accuracy to be a threat. Bhuvi is militry medium and on Aussie pitches might not rip any side through. Shami is in worst form of his life. Umesh Yadav has wasted all opportunities given to him and do not expect any surprises from him. Others like Iswar Pande were never been tested. If someone says India's bowling is decent, I would appreciate such a euphoric & day dream thought. They are below average for the overseas tours. Loosing less than 4-0 on tour down under would be an achievement specially if a lackluster & unprepared & stubborn Dhoni has to lead the team again.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

i think the indian team has in it to do good. it will be a fighting series. and with india coming up with a good bowling attack . In bhuvi, umesh, varun, shami and ishant and followed by bowlers like ishwar pandey and praveen kr. indias fast and swing bowling arsenal is looking potent and awesome. the lords test should india can fight fire with fire and maybe reply with more fire. just need to manage this awesome fire power properly. and if the batsmen fielding and the support staff can keep and help this bowling unit up and running, indian bowling can be among the best at the moment. and maybe it can be the best bowling unit. like the spin quatret of the yesteryears they can be the pace pentate of the now years. all fingers crossed

Posted by LivingDead on (August 20, 2014, 17:47 GMT)

Dont think Indians worship Pujara Kohli, the only one they ever worshipped was Sachin. Even that was started by that British author who wrote "Indians have cricket as a religion and Sachin as their God." Thats when all the Sachin=God mania started which a bit over the top. No denying there is a culture of extreme hero worship in India though.Thats why we still hear some strange fans calling to bring back Sehwag, Zaheer and Irfan. Look at what happened to Gambhir.

Posted by thozar on (August 20, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

@Biggus, McGrath should simply have said that Oz start as favorites. All this big talk of winning 5-0 is a joke. McGrath also said Oz will win 5-0 before the Ashes series in England. But they got thrashed 0-3. He got his predictions right in the return series. But even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day.

Beating a weak England side does not make you world beaters. We also can beat England in India. Your lot got thrashed 0-4 in India, lol. Where was your great Michael Clarke, England bully Haddin, Rogers, Smith, Johnson, Harris, and the new Murali, Lyon, hahahaha? Why were they not able to save you from that defeat.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 17:36 GMT)

McGrath is spot-on.

The bowling cannot get 20 wickets. But the batting is worse. If they cannot face Anderson and Broad, while gifting wickets to Moeen Ali, they'll be hard pressed to reach 150 against the likes of Mitchell Johnson, Harris and Siddle.

4-0 in favor of Australia is the most likely result.

No Indian team has ever won a series in Australia. This one is not going to threaten that.

He is right. You need pace and all you have are medium pacers other than the brittle but promising Aaron and Yadav who is not even on the radar.

Ashwin is a game trier, who makes more waves with his batting than with him bowling abroad. Dunno what Jadeja is, pretty sure he is not a bowler.

Dhoni is the one and only reliable performer, and his 'keeping is slumping.

Name one player in the Indian side who'll be able to take on Mitchell Johnson. AFTER you look at what happened to him in England

Posted by thozar on (August 20, 2014, 17:33 GMT)

@Starvybz, yes, Oz have a very poor batting line-up. David Warner is due a failure and he has been carrying that batting for some time. Other than Michael Clarke, no one in that line-up will be considered a world class batsman. McGrath says they beat England 5-0 but conveniently forgets that they also lost 0-3 in England just months before their home series. Everyone wins at home. McGrath also seems to have forgotten that India well and truly beat Oz 4-0 in India. He seems to only remember results of series which Oz won.

What undid India in England was the swing as you correctly point out. Kohli scored a blistering ton in the last series. Pujara will also like the conditions as will Rahane. I somehow want India to play Rohit also in that series. He is another batsman who can succeed. If Indian batsmen can conquer Oz bowling, India can even win the series.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (August 20, 2014, 17:12 GMT)

Ishant,Varun,Bhuvi,Ashwin,Shami.With this kind of attack all they can hope is that not a lot of records are broken @ their expense by Aussies.I doubt it though.Likely to see another Clarke 300,couple of 150 ball 200s from Warner,run a ball 100 by Watto.

Posted by Starvybz on (August 20, 2014, 17:05 GMT)

mcgrath speaks as if australia has a world class batting line up, also swing was what did it for the indians so i would say 2-1 in favour of india

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 16:15 GMT)

bring back zaheer...........!

Posted by wapuser on (August 20, 2014, 16:05 GMT)

Yes I will agree with glen,India never learned lessons from past tours and I don't think they will learn from this tour too...... Definitely 4-0 will be on the cards and expecting with innings defeat in all 4 tests. I wish India to prove me wrong, If dhoni continue as a captain, above result is expectable....

Posted by nippu87 on (August 20, 2014, 15:55 GMT)

what's gonna happen in australia, that we will see in dec-jan 2015. but truth is that, that history which they recently made in england will always haunt the team india especially kohli, gambhir, dhawan, pujara, and few more....

Posted by Biggus on (August 20, 2014, 15:52 GMT)

@Jose Puliampatta:- An Indian reporter asked McGrath the questions and he answered them, so precisely what is your problem? Is it a mind game to suggest that India could well lose 4-0 or is it an accurate estimate? Can an accurate estimate be a mind game? Should he have refused to answer any questions because he didn't want to hurt your feelings? Should he perhaps have said India have no problems and will win 4-0? Please help me out here Jose, what precisely should McGrath have said?

Posted by Biggus on (August 20, 2014, 15:42 GMT)

@Ian Jones:-"Another series that will paper over the cracks (really huge cracks) in the Aussie team. Just because they've won 2 series doesn't hide the same issues they had in 2010/11. No spinner No batsmen coming through the ranks No wicket keeper coming through the ranks All their bowlers get injured far too often."

And this is coming from an England supporter? Gee Ian, our series against India will 'paper over the cracks' whilst your team's victory against that same side signals a renaissance in English cricket? Proves Cook is a good captain? Proves Moeeen Ali is a world class spinner? That Woakes and Jordan are world class quicks?

Dream on Ian, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones old boy, don't you know? Given that your lot rolled over and played dead against our team, which we're well aware needs some work, I'm not sure I'd be making a big noise if I were you. If we could beat you 5-0 where does that put England the Mighty?

Posted by Collis79 on (August 20, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

Indian players and fans should not worry much about the result in Australia because you can only go with what you have and that team is not good enough to beat the Aussies on their own turf. Look at the problems long term, develop quicker wickets which will develop fast bowlers and help Indian batsmen techniques on bouncier wickets. Also its no use Indian supporters crowing about beating Australia 4-0 in their own country, you keep on telling us how great you are, so to prove that greatness, you have to beat all the other Test playing nations IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY CONSISTENTLY, which the WIndies and Australia done when they were at their best!

Posted by CricketChat on (August 20, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

Anything better than a 4-0 should be considered above expectation from Ind side, though, it doesn't seem likely given the rut the test team is in now. I do feel Ind batsmen are more comfortable with bounce rather than sideways swing (Eng). So, we might see Kohli's and Pujara's making 40s and 50s again. I still see 4-0 for Australia.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 15:27 GMT)

Haven't we started these mind games a bit too early, McGrath?

Posted by spinkingKK on (August 20, 2014, 15:19 GMT)

The Aussie guys are always on the money. He said it right. 4-0. I have to agree with everything Glenn McGrath said. India just haven't got any department covered. I think the first thing they have to practice is slip catching. Just make sure you don't drop any close-in catches. That will provide a lot of confidence to the bowlers and once the bowlers perform well, batsmen will try to match it. If you do all that right, then we can have a close game. But, still the Australians will win.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 15:12 GMT)

Mcgrath is right in saying so. If India is to win, BCCI should first send away Murali Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara, Kohli and Rahane to play in the Aus or Eng Counties for the next two months, depending on the match availability. Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma should be preserved exclusively for Tests and not be used for CLT20 or the ODIs that might come before the Aus series. Ashwin must be trusted and allowed to play from the start of the series irrespective of the conditions to help him learn and grow to bowl in all conditions. Preserving him for only turning tracks will keep him dependent on the pitch all through his career. Pragyan Ojha or Mishra must be drafted in as a backup for Ashwin. Bhuvi's fitness must be taken care of. All these must be done to stand any chance of winning or at least drawing the series in Aus. Test series in Aus/Eng is much more important than the WC. So WC preparations must only begin after the Test series ends. Everyone's priority must be Aus Tests.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 14:56 GMT)

i will go 3-0 australia will win

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (August 20, 2014, 14:54 GMT)

When Dhoni retires, he will probably go with a mixed legacy: most successful Indian captain when it comes to test matches played in India. And most unsuccessful Indian captain when it comes to test matches played abroad.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 14:52 GMT)

Another series that will paper over the cracks (really huge cracks) in the Aussie team. Just because they've won 2 series doesn't hide the same issues they had in 2010/11. No spinner No batsmen coming through the ranks No wicket keeper coming through the ranks All their bowlers get injured far too often.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 20, 2014, 14:46 GMT)

Need to bring in Naman ojha for the upcoming test series against australia...and Mr.Mcgrath this is not gonna happen again.. u aussies will taste a 4-0 defeat at ur home soil against team India

Posted by android_user on (August 20, 2014, 14:46 GMT)

Australians are now taking the advantage from this series defeat to England by the war of words to demotivate our players. Still 4 months are their for that series. I think Macgrath have forget 2002 and 2003-04 Border Gavaskar Series . How India team gave the fight back. Before that in 1999-2000 1999-2000 series we completely lost both ODI and Test series. In 2002 in India we are one test down to won the series 2-1 quite comprehensive.

Posted by henchart on (August 20, 2014, 14:44 GMT)

India could face 4-0 Loss in Australia-McGrath.No.India would face 4-0 Loss in Australia.

Posted by cricket-india on (August 20, 2014, 14:39 GMT)

agree with mcgrath india will lose 4-0; MSD has no support from batsmen who are technically incompetent and need not improve as their livelihoods don't depend on technical competence anymore. say what you will of his captaincy, MSD is playing with the team he's given. ponting lost the ashes at home the moment warne and mcgrath retired, the windies slid in the late 90s after their greats left, and so it's happening with india. in that fawning tribute to SRT, ganguly wrote SRT led better than the results show because he had a team where the seniors were fading out (who, BTW?) and the juniors were finding their feet. i say MSD lost 8-0 because the superstars became a burden on the teamand refused to acknowledge it and move on, and the juniors...well, we didn't have many, right? somehow MSD gets vilified for defeat while others get of scot free; i mean 1-3 isn't half as bad as 0-3 (1999-00 ind tour of oz under SRT), right? and SRT had dravid, ganguly, srinath and kumble, who does MSD have?

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (August 20, 2014, 14:35 GMT)

Yeah I agree with the great man - Four zip to the Aussies

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 14:29 GMT)

What is new here? India get thrashed in Australia and Aussies get whitewashed in India. Yawn!

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 20, 2014, 14:12 GMT)

@electric_loco_WAP4 (post on August 20, 2014, 12:22 GMT): Because some of us actually enjoy cricket and come here to discuss cricket and look forward to cricket games; not just simply degenerate oppositions. We all occasionally have fun/banter on these forums (e.g. my Warner-bashing...), but ultimately I think most people here look forward to great, competitive cricket and give credit where credit due. I thought Aaron bowled well here in England, and I gotta say there's no way I'd like to face him. I'm definitely not ruling out a few surprises for the Aussies this upcoming series, regardless of end results...

Posted by Charlie101 on (August 20, 2014, 14:02 GMT)

I tend to agree with MGrath however there are a number of factors including

Which Mitchel Johnson will turn up because he was lethal against us but we all know he has had bad patches before ( hope he saves a bad patch for the next ashes )

I think the side ways movement did for Pujara and Kohli and if they can handle the pace they may bat to their potential but it does look an up hill struggle

Posted by ABLcric on (August 20, 2014, 13:49 GMT)

I do not agree with these comments about India losing in Australia. I am from Pakistan but I believe this Indian team has potential. Just losing in England under English conditions does not prove anything. Pakistan beat them 3-0 in Emirates. So what!! Now, Pakistan lost both test matches in SriLanka. Well, what Indians need is a good and sensible planning and strategy. Aussie pitches are hard and have bounce. They will try to exploit this advantage against the Indians. Varun Aaron is good. He needs support from Kumar and Ishant. If i am selecting the team, I would target the Aussie batsmen with spin. Indians have been producing great spinners in past. They need a good one now! So, do not get disappointed. Just stay together and just one win will get you back in full swing!!

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 13:47 GMT)

It is unfair to give any extra advantage to one or two teams for the world cup. There should be a rule that for about 2 months just prior to the world cup the home team should not be playing in their country, this way no extra advantage is given to any one team unduly. In this instance australia will be playing india in australia just before the world cup so these 2 teams will have extra advantage since they are already extra familiar with the australian conditions. Australia anyway will be familiar with their home conditions and india since will play lots of test and ODI in australia just before the world cup will nicely get acquainted with the conditions there. The home team (in this instance australia) should be forced to play an away series just before the world cup in some other country so that the home country loses little bit of their home advantage and also no other team (in this instance india) will gain any undue advantage for the world cup.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 13:22 GMT)

Whatever the tour result, but it will be helpful for team India to get used in Australia before world cup 2015. There is no where India can challenge Australia in test series. In any department for that case. Be it batting, bowling or fielding, Australia is much much better side. Mitchel Johnson, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon vs our India top order batting. like wise our bowlers vs their batting line up. This tour is unfair.

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (August 20, 2014, 13:21 GMT)

No awards for predicting a foregone conclusion... Dhoni is too rigid in his thinking, so he will not allow players outside of the present 17, and, therefore, results will be the same.

Posted by Vilander on (August 20, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

Ishant,Pankaj,Bhuv,Yadav,Aaron,Shami should be in the team, first choice Ishant,Bhuv,Aaron,Umesh. Play Ashwin as batting alrounder.

Posted by STRIKETHUNDER on (August 20, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

India has stopped playing TEST cricket since 2011.

Posted by tanstell87 on (August 20, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

McGrath should add 4-0 that too inside 2.5 days in every test...Dhoni with his IPL buddies with Ashwin & Jadeja cant win any overseas test...he has failed as test captain...

If BCCI want India to last 5 days in overseas conditions scrap the test team excluding Rahane, Vijay, Bhuvi & Aaron....make one of Vijay or Rahane captain and fill all remaining positions by Ranji stalwarts like Kedar Jadhav, Manoj Tiwary, KL Rahul, Jiwanjot, Dhawal Kulkarni, Amit Mishra, Parvez Rasool & fast bowlers Aaron & Yadav...

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 13:06 GMT)

The single most important thing is what length and line the australia bowlers will bowl to india. If they choose to bowl the short pitched and wide deliveries to indians as england bowlers did in the first 2 tests in recently concluded test series then australia can forget easy victory against india. The australian bowlers has to bowl relatively fuller length - the length between short pitch and full toss/1/2 volley = in and around the good length area and the line should be as near to the off stump as possible, any other length and line is if chosen then australia will lose their advantage. Once england started bowling this tight length and line then the struggling of india was seen immediately. In south africa steyn did the same mistake of bowling short and wide and indians batted well there and put lots of pressure on south africa. So the outcome of the series between ind and aus will be mainly decided by the length and line chosen by australian bowlers.

Posted by cric_follower on (August 20, 2014, 13:05 GMT)

4-0 and they don't need Mitch Johnson for that. He is needed to finish matches in side 3 days.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 20, 2014, 12:57 GMT)

Has there ever been a series involving Australia where he [McGrath] hasn't predicted a whitewash...

Have to say though, after that abysmal performance here in England, it's hard to envisage anything else. It will be a huge test of character to see how/if the Indians bounce back. The main thing we have to remember/consider is that it's a whole new set of conditions and players. Swing bowling, and patient/attritional batting are the key attributes I associate with test cricket in U.K.; in Australia, it's generally more pace and awkward bounce you want with bowling, and a more attacking/aggressive approach to batting seems to work a treat. Can India deliver, or at the very least dent, these rampant Aussies on their own turf!?

Posted by IPL_is_Fixed on (August 20, 2014, 12:48 GMT)

Aus Series should be called off. Team IPL cannot dream about performing there. 0-4 is the easiest prediction one can make about this Team IPL vs Aus. A separate team INDIA should be groomed to play TEST CRICKET.

Posted by RonG on (August 20, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

I am an India supporter and I too cannot see India winning any test matches in Australia. I had said the same about the just concluded England series but was pleasantly surprised by India's win at Lords.

India's chances of winning in Australia will improve if somebody other than Dhoni is the captain (Dhoni is a proven failure as overseas Test captain), still not enough to win a Test.

1 left-field suggestion, would be to try Ashwin as an opener and thus India will be able to play 5 bowlers without weakening the batting too much. Ashwin and Vijay will easily do better than Vijay and Dhawan.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 12:28 GMT)

India's resurrection is not as far away as one might think. Ian Chappell said of Australia after losing the Ashes in England that as long as you have a bowling attack which can take wickets then you can win games. The only positive that has come out of the Eng is that the pace attack did create chances, that in Aust is a huge plus - particularly if they take their catches. Regards to batting Kholi had a good series last tour and several batsmen performed well in SA so the potential is there too. The big thing is the mental fortitude to compete a long test series. With Dhoni at the helm this is India's fatal flaw. Little Dhoni says or does as Test captain seems to put enthusiasm or energy into his side. Every test series he loses overseas he looks limp and defeated and just wants to go home. The team performances reflect this

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (August 20, 2014, 12:22 GMT)

Why are everybody esp. Aussies being too generous and mouthing praises,platitudes to Ind and its cricketers now a days.Now even the straight talking Aussie legend.For eg, Aaron as a quality bowler?Well,even Jordan,Wokes bowled quicker,posed more threat.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 12:18 GMT)

when sehwag,bhajji will again start plying for india,we will start winning..doesn't matter overseas or home test - experience will surely beat technique less youngsters..

Posted by whatawicket on (August 20, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

as long as johnson stays fit then expect 4 - 0. without him the aussies will still be strong enough to beat india. in the ashes depends which johnson turn up if its the one similar to what we have had in past, other than last winter then england to win. not sure who was more suprised his aussie team mates and crowds or englands cricketers.

Posted by Anil_Koshy on (August 20, 2014, 12:03 GMT)

India will never become a top test playing nation like Australia, South Africa, England or Pakistan, after playing for 80 odd years, they still don't have any fast bowler who can be termed as fast. They always relied on spinners but at the moment they don't even have a good spinner who can take wickets in overseas conditions. No doubt they had a good batting unit when Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, Ganguly and Sehwag were playing, at the moment apart from Kohli, they don't have any decent batsman, though he was a failure in England.

Posted by android_user on (August 20, 2014, 12:01 GMT)

spot on Pidgeon. only this time you look like sympathising rathet than boasting and mind games. Really embarrassing for us fans but this is truth. in the last decade only we were the team who had respectable record against then mighty Aus. But now.....

Posted by JJJake on (August 20, 2014, 11:59 GMT)

India has never won a series in Australia, I don't see them starting anytime soon. Australia has won four series in India . Ryan Harris will trouble the Indian batsman with his late swing. MJ can also move the ball. The thing is, they don't rely on swing. If conditions aren't conducive to swing bowling, they will just blast batsman out with sustained pace. Anderson couldn't do this in Australia. Can't see the Indian bowler doing it either.

Posted by android_user on (August 20, 2014, 11:52 GMT)

Mc Grath is 100% correct. Aron n yadav needs to be groomed property before the all important series. As for Kumar n Sharma they need to up their pace upto 136kmph+ or else they'll get hammered. some of our fellow Indian fans have a huge ego problem and it showed in some of the comments here. McGrath is just being honest here. Please stop boasting of winning 4-0 at home. what bout the England home series. India is never comfortable at home either. by boasting that India won 4-0 it means you have already given up the Australian series. But I smell rot here as the BCCI will pay no heed to these tours, it's a formality only because it's the ipl only which matters to them now so much that EVERY INDIAN KNOWS WELL.

Posted by wake_up_india on (August 20, 2014, 11:50 GMT)

This was exactly what was said about the team that Ganguly took to Australia -- promise of chin music etc. India drew that series after coming close to winning it. However, neither the present captain nor the present batsmen are of the caliber of that team. Will some Phoenix rise from the present ashes?

Posted by CaseyWilliam14 on (August 20, 2014, 11:49 GMT)

India all out for 50. Indian devotee fans will worship their false superstars, most of whom don't even deserve the adulation. Before, Indian fans start sending series of angry posts, just ask yourself, why back players who consistently fail? They are not like Gavaskar and don't deserve to be put on the same pedestal as Viv Richard, Hayden, Kallis or Dravid. Be sensible in your praise because it's only a game. Don't make the players into a demi-god because even as Aussies we respected Bradman but never worshiped him. Cheers.

Posted by HarryCS on (August 20, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

I believe, India should play with 6 bowlers, 5 batsmen and keeper (Dhoni/Some one else). six bowlers Varun Aaron, I Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Bhuvi/S Shami, Zaheer/Irfan, Ishwar Pandey/P Singh/Dhawal Kulkarni. Batsmen: Pujara, M Vijay, R Sharma/Kohli, A Rahane and Keeper. With Batting u can't win in Aus

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 11:43 GMT)

It could get ugly for India, no doubt. I was really surprised how badly they fell away in England after very good starts to the series from the likes of Vijay and Rahane. I guess the question is, was the English bowling off its game in those matches, or did something go completely pear shaped in the dressing room thereafter? It's hard to find any other reasoning. If the dressing room can't come together before the start of the series in Aus then they are in big trouble, likewise if they are expecting some buffet bowling from the Aussies then they are coming at the wrong time. I wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of Starc and Cummins come in and bowl some pretty hot spells and that coming on behind the likes of Mitch and Ryano. Bring it on!

Posted by Rajdeepgupta on (August 20, 2014, 11:35 GMT)

It will be a tough series and probably Dhoni's last as test captain. Unless we get some bowlers like Aaaron and Ishant putting some sort of fear amongst the Aussies, I don't even say fear we are going to lose each every match by an innings. That's some optimism :)

Posted by Saif_Khan90 on (August 20, 2014, 11:33 GMT)

Forget the bowlers, its the batsman's who have to put runs on the board if India wishes to win the series. Personally, I don't think it will be a complete whitewash but even ardent Indian fans knows, a series win will be tough. Good luck anyway.

Posted by Paddy789 on (August 20, 2014, 11:33 GMT)

The bowling attack that they have, Quite Possible !!! I doubt if they would make even 94 then.

Posted by 200ondebut on (August 20, 2014, 11:30 GMT)

Big prediction from pidge. Form will have a lot to do with it. Australia played well above their usual level in the last Ashes and India were well below their normal level against Eng. Oz rely on the trio of Johnson, Clarke and Harris - and Mitch's form is about as reliable and Harris's knees or Clarke's back.

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 11:30 GMT)

I think thats said perfectly. Very well analysed. Remember, steve waugh was also in england during the series to analyse, so australia have a better advantage. Australia analyses well always, they prepare well. India needs to prepare with as much effort as they can. They will need to be fit, improve their batting techniques, improve slip catching, bowl a bit more consistently and fight hard. We will need changes in our openers as dhawan/gambhir totally lack technique to suit fast and bouncy pitches. At this point of time, india must look at this as a chance to improve. With peter siddle, ryan harris and mitchell johnson, our batsmen must be fully prepared and equipped to leave the right balls and smack the bad ones for at least a four.

Posted by shashi_dhoni on (August 20, 2014, 11:29 GMT)

ya I agree with 4-0 to aus . Indians hav no idea of Anderson after pitching which way its going to swing but they may have an Idea of facing Johnson after it pitch its head or chest of a batsmen. Being a Indian fan I hope Mitch to be injured at the time of India's tests. Mcgrth shoul agree one thing even Aus tour to India now they will face 4-0 to India . Bcoz they are poor in facing spin execpt Clarke.,

Posted by Amit_4_Sachin on (August 20, 2014, 11:26 GMT)

Glenn is right, but then every team has been winning at home. Same Aus team lost 0-4 in India.

Posted by glacier_143 on (August 20, 2014, 11:25 GMT)

By far, India now needs a bench of 30 specialist player and not just 16 or 18. Australia, England, South Africa have opted to play long test series, which means more work for our fast bowler and a better skillful approach by our batsmen. In England we did not have 4 fast bowler who could play full 4 or 5 test match series, neither did batsmen show the fight on swinging bouncy pitches. And above all we need to mix experience with youth. Yuvraj, Sehwag, Ojha, Harbhajan, Zaheer for next 2 years, Dinesh Kartik and Parthiv Patel needs to be considered in abroad series. No way a team like one which went to England with less experience can get fruitful results.

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (August 20, 2014, 11:24 GMT)

Aaron is overrated. Saw him bowl but wasn't impressed by him. Is he the best India can do? Just cause he got bit of pace? I mean, he erred in line, length and gave away far too many runs. Clarke, Warner is going to thrash him all over the park. Same thing happened to Yadav in the last tour, if i remember. India's only chance is if their so called batsman's front up. If you can't bowled out for 94 in international cricket mate. i mean, India has 1.2 billion people and more players to choose from, unlike us Kiwis or other nations. good luck

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (August 20, 2014, 11:18 GMT)

IPL takes test away from india..but they lost the T20 WC final against SL..seems even IPL doesn't work well in all format of game for india...

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (August 20, 2014, 11:15 GMT)

Gotta love da enthusiasm of Indan fans ay. Before the England series began they predicted their team would whitewash the Poms. They did the same thing, when they came to New Zealand. Our Kiwi lads put them in their place. Even though I don't care for the Aussies, I expect them to win this series. At least in Cricket they will win, not in Rugby though..All Blacks :) churr brother

Posted by FRpunk on (August 20, 2014, 11:08 GMT)

This is not a Prediction , Its a Spoiler .

Posted by Mike_Tyson on (August 20, 2014, 11:03 GMT)

@ Madan Shivakumar - The problem for India is, this series will be in Aus and not in Ind so as Mcgrath says more than likely they will lose 4-0. I can't see a whole lot changing in the next couple months or so before the Aus tour. Lets face it, apart from a couple of the senors retiring, nota whole lot has changed since the embarassing lossed of 2011.

My pediction is as Mcgrath, definitely 4-0 to Aus and a very easy 4-0 at that.

Posted by baskar_guha on (August 20, 2014, 11:02 GMT)

Listen to McGrath ... they need Aaron and Yadav in the team to have any chance

Posted by   on (August 20, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

It was not the pace or bounce, but the swing which did Indian batsmen in during their tour to England. None in the Australian line up posses the skill of an Anderson. Their spinner is also their weak line. Plus with the kind of severe backlash that they have faced, the Indian batsmen will surely put up a better fight. The Aussies could be in for some surprise (hopefully!!!).

Posted by Biggus on (August 20, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

Well, no Australian series would be complete with a prediction of a clean sweep to us from Senor McGrath. I wouldn't be surprised if he's right this time.

Posted by android_user on (August 20, 2014, 10:41 GMT)

though I don't refute the fact that India COULD be facing another 4-0 it can also be said that Australians are sitting ducks in the subcontinent... let's not forget that they lost 4-0 in India too... Mitchell Johnson is going to pose a lot of questions to India but this is sport - u never know how things can change ; moreover Johnson has an infamous reputation of being able to produce performances that are equally bad as his recent ashes exploits

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Dec 21-24, 2014 (09:30 local | 04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST | 22:00 CST | 20:00 PST)
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