IPL 2012 October 9, 2011

Pakistan players' participation in IPL to be discussed - Shukla

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The participation of Pakistan players in next year's IPL will come up for discussion during the next IPL governing council meeting on October 14, Rajiv Shukla, the league's chairman, has said. Pakistan players have not taken part in the IPL following the terrorist attacks in Mumbai in November 2008, and even though 11 of them featured in the auction list for the third edition of the tournament in 2010, none were picked up by the franchises. Some of the franchises put it down to the uncertainty over their availability following a breakdown in diplomatic relations between India and Pakistan.

"This decision has to be taken by the Governing Council. It is not that Pakistan as a country has been banned in IPL," Shukla told PTI. "Their (Pakistani) referees' services have been utilised. Some franchises have taken Pakistani former players as coaches also and supporting staff as well. So it is not that Pakistan as a whole has been banned or something. There is no question of banning anyone."

The final call, however, rested with the franchises, Shukla said. "About Pakistani players, it is purely up to the franchises to decide whether they want to take Pakistani players or not. And we have to keep certain considerations in mind before deciding about it."

With regards to the resumption of cricketing ties with Pakistan, Shukla said matters of security and scheduling needed to be resolved before going ahead. He was also not too keen on the idea of playing at a neutral venue. "We have worked together. The question is about the circumstances and certain issues ... in terms of security. Those issues are to be sorted out. Then only, we can think of it.

"At the same time, there is no slot available. If there is slot available, then all these things can be discussed. Everybody wants cricket ties to be revived, to be resumed but slot has to be there to resume the ties.

"Secondly the atmosphere should be congenial because I am of the view that we should play on each others' soil instead of playing at a third venue. There is no point on playing at a third venue."

The termination of the Kochi franchise and the number of teams for the next IPL will also be discussed at the meeting.

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  • jabh on October 12, 2011, 12:13 GMT

    Completely agree with 'dadagos11'

  • dadagos11 on October 11, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    Shuklaji why you are being so generous to pakistani players.. Focus on indian talent and how they can show better performance in internation cricket. After beaten badly by England, it looks like future is dark after trio will retired. Do something for Indian cricket and don't worry about rest of the world.

  • on October 10, 2011, 15:58 GMT

    Pak players should be in ipl.

  • dadagos11 on October 10, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    why IPL need Pakistani players.. .. Its true that pakistan clubs should be included in CLT20. IPL should be for local players only.

  • ani_cric on October 10, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    there is lot of things to be concerned to develop cricket in Indai .. how silly these people have nothing to do ..but just drama after drama... Who cares if pak does not play in India ..... probably IPL is missing match fixing deals which will happen after this meeting

  • jabh on October 10, 2011, 13:11 GMT

    Do you know why pakistani players arent playing in the IPL. Hint look at the name. Its the INDIAN Premier League. The BCCI can choose which players can play and which can't. Its their local tournament. Regarding the Champions League though, I am with the rest. Top 2 from most countries should be allowed. I.E. Auckland deserved it more than KKR. And I bet Sialkot would have done well too.

  • on October 10, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    Pakistani players should refuse to play in the IPL forever. bcoz they were treated very badly in 2010 auction. Money is not everything in life. Its not bigger than ur respect and ur country,s respect. So, I will request all the players do not join IPL.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    Its also a joke to include 4 IPL teams in CL..to bring India a glory?? hahaha. Shame on you. If some else country does this BCCI and Indian fans complains.. that it should be equal ... Its a pity and pathetic.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    Its a Shame that Best WestIndian players are playing domestic competition rather that playing for their country. IPL lure them to skip playing for their country. If this keep going on Cricket will be finished and it became just a league sport.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:24 GMT

    IPL is a joke.. CL is good as it brings domestic players to international arena. IPL teams are not domestic teams they are Corporate teams as it buys international players too strengthen their sides. Indian domestic players should get a chance rather than the big players or international players making money through it.

  • jabh on October 12, 2011, 12:13 GMT

    Completely agree with 'dadagos11'

  • dadagos11 on October 11, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    Shuklaji why you are being so generous to pakistani players.. Focus on indian talent and how they can show better performance in internation cricket. After beaten badly by England, it looks like future is dark after trio will retired. Do something for Indian cricket and don't worry about rest of the world.

  • on October 10, 2011, 15:58 GMT

    Pak players should be in ipl.

  • dadagos11 on October 10, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    why IPL need Pakistani players.. .. Its true that pakistan clubs should be included in CLT20. IPL should be for local players only.

  • ani_cric on October 10, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    there is lot of things to be concerned to develop cricket in Indai .. how silly these people have nothing to do ..but just drama after drama... Who cares if pak does not play in India ..... probably IPL is missing match fixing deals which will happen after this meeting

  • jabh on October 10, 2011, 13:11 GMT

    Do you know why pakistani players arent playing in the IPL. Hint look at the name. Its the INDIAN Premier League. The BCCI can choose which players can play and which can't. Its their local tournament. Regarding the Champions League though, I am with the rest. Top 2 from most countries should be allowed. I.E. Auckland deserved it more than KKR. And I bet Sialkot would have done well too.

  • on October 10, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    Pakistani players should refuse to play in the IPL forever. bcoz they were treated very badly in 2010 auction. Money is not everything in life. Its not bigger than ur respect and ur country,s respect. So, I will request all the players do not join IPL.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    Its also a joke to include 4 IPL teams in CL..to bring India a glory?? hahaha. Shame on you. If some else country does this BCCI and Indian fans complains.. that it should be equal ... Its a pity and pathetic.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    Its a Shame that Best WestIndian players are playing domestic competition rather that playing for their country. IPL lure them to skip playing for their country. If this keep going on Cricket will be finished and it became just a league sport.

  • WildAmigo on October 10, 2011, 7:24 GMT

    IPL is a joke.. CL is good as it brings domestic players to international arena. IPL teams are not domestic teams they are Corporate teams as it buys international players too strengthen their sides. Indian domestic players should get a chance rather than the big players or international players making money through it.

  • on October 10, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    no more IPL just play for the country cricketers r not poor they earn much money by even only playing for country so y to bend and down against rivals boycott IPL !!!

  • vish57 on October 10, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    It is unfair to discriminate Pakistan cricketers for IPL; any interested Pak cricketer should be placed for auction for the franchise to bid; obviously some team will replace Kochi and few new cricketers across the cricket playing nations will be added; Sports is beyond politics, India should resume cricket ties with Pakistan; when teams from other sports from Pakistan are being hosted in India, do not have a different stand for Cricket.

  • Amjad.Khan on October 10, 2011, 6:33 GMT

    I think PAK players should not participate in the IPL as to how they were treated last time. Shukla has a good excuse... "at the end it all depends on the franchises...: Ofcourse the franchises will luv to buy Pakistani players more than any other country players as Indian public when see the Pakistanis playing for their teams will attract more crowds but its obviously the BCCI & extremist parties in India that pressurize franchises to not go for PAK players. I dont watch IPL like millions of other Pakistanis as there are no Pakistani players in IPL. Atleast they could have had a Pakistani club in the CL-T20 & then they say Pakistani players are not banned, huh.

  • on October 10, 2011, 0:57 GMT

    Some very thought provoking comments I saw here - I believe IPL and CLT20 are not that relevant anymore. There is so much cricket going on these days with county cricket and then Aus, SL and SA leagues wanting Pakistani players so they can make money else where. If IPL wants them, fine - by all means go and make quick money - but it doesn't matter in the long run. Pakistan's domestic structure and T20 is so popular now - sponsors need to get more behind that and make it even stronger. And as some guys said, Indian pitches are same as ours, so you don't learn anything new over there.

  • newMachine on October 9, 2011, 23:15 GMT

    i hope they include the pakistan players and have a pakistani team in the champions league also..i think that country has some good young players

  • on October 9, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    I think India will tour pakistan just like 2004,as they resume ties

  • on October 9, 2011, 21:12 GMT

    I hope that IPL does not include Pak players. I want the Pak players to concentrate on domestic and International Cricket and be ready for bigger tournaments. Let them play Australian, South African and English leauges tomake some extra money and get acclamitized to playing on those surfaces as opposed to get familliar in the sub continent type of pitches. They will learn nothing in IPL except to make big money for a few weeks of slogging.

  • DONinSA on October 9, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    well, i think some of players like Imran nazir, razzaq, afridi, yasir hameed, kamran akmal, sohail tanveer will take this opportunity if given. But Pak team has been struggling in test cricket. So to players like taufeeq, misbah, younis khan, and especially umar akmal and hafeez should think about their country first, because they have a great future to lead their country in future. And especially umar akmal need to spend some time becoming a proper test batsman.

  • criclover112 on October 9, 2011, 19:04 GMT

    If I was a pakistani player i will not join IPL, for any amount of money, the reason being that Pakistani players were insulted and mocked by IPL and BCCI when they didnt bid on a single pakistani player in the 3rd ipl auction. If pak players have any self respect they should refuse any offers but I am afraid this will not be the case as the lure of money will be too strong. I hope that Pak players focus on pak domestic tournaments and maybe australian or english leagues to make a little extra money and also playing in English and Australian conditions will help youngsters get familiarized to those conditions and it will help them when they visit those countries on national tours.

  • on October 9, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    I am sure Pakistani players will play if allowed to, so I am hoping they decide not to include Pakistani players. We have an inexperienced team at the moment, the last thing they need is to inflate their egos by getting big money for a few weeks of slogging and bowling yorkers, look what happened to the West Indies, that shouldn't even be an option.

  • tick on October 9, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    its so stupid of pakistani fans with there comments..i am pakistani but i feel that cricket should be taken as a sport..not as venue to ban each other..look at the ipl 1 highlights when pakistani players played and they and indians were just playing like they are same..its hatred in hearts which as educated people we souldn't..infact pakistani players in ipl and sialkot stallions in champ league will attract more indian crowd both as positively and negatively..

  • AmmarRajar on October 9, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    ipl viewership decreased last year nd mostly one sided matches nd shortage of quality players bcz increase in no: of teams they want to keep the charm alive..this will increase the income of Pakistani players but wht would be its affect..injuries n lost focus on other version of the game..

  • Hawk_Pk on October 9, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    Pakistanis must avoid IPL. not at all a trustworthy venture, as far as pakistanis are concerned. this offer is to lure them now and insult them in the end.pakistan's own domestic T20s compititions, though not that well planed were some how a success...these are good enough for us and our players..

  • on October 9, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    What if this was South Africa and they were banning Zimbabwe from sending their players? Would that not be apartheid? This is no different....

  • on October 9, 2011, 16:02 GMT

    I think pakistan players want to participate in it(ipl) because money too matters because nobody will play for country/franchise without if u ask any of the player to play just for the sake of country i dont think anybody will be interested.And if champions league is truly a champions league then pakistan should be given a place or better to rename it as organisers league where a 4 place team take place and still the tournament is named as champions league.

  • FarhanSabir on October 9, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    I don't want my Pakistani players to play in IPL after how they were treated after the 1st edition. In fact, I don't watch IPL because if that. Ignoring Pakistani players for IPL and Pakistani domestic T20 Champions for Champions League goes to show how biased BCCI and ICC is. I dont want to see my team play in either event.

  • on October 9, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    no we dont want our players to be picked for IPL, coz we dont want our players to be un fit for their national duties, as we have seen in the cases of India and windies, it is a blessing in disguise for the pakistani fans that their valueable players were not picked for IPL, thats why they are fit for the national duties,

  • on October 9, 2011, 14:39 GMT

    please include pak players in ipl... .

  • on October 9, 2011, 14:32 GMT

    Pak players should boycott IPL and PC should make PPL a Pakistan Premier league i think they can also get required sponsors dont bow infront of india and make ur and our head upwards all the time ! Pak cricket much better than indian cricket and more talented too

  • bul98 on October 9, 2011, 14:28 GMT

    Mr Shukla - Please don't select Pak players in IPL, Pak players would like to play IPL but as a Pakistan Cricket fan I don't like to see any PAK player in IPL. We are so better off without this most boring Cricket tournment which is destroying and taking the charm out of Cricket...Keep this IPL for your Indian yougster and one day your team will be last in both Test and ODI but will WIN IPL championship every year. Just remember what happenned in England..

  • on October 9, 2011, 14:24 GMT

    Please leave our cricket we don't want to be part of IPL. we love our player as they are now no matter they won or lose. Because they are playing for Pakistan not for 3rd class indian clubs.................................

  • getsetgopk on October 9, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    Mr. Shukla how nice of you. But why this sudden change of mood I wonder, does it has something to do with empty stands in the ongoing CL20? I think so. But no thanks we pakis dont need our players play in IPL, we need our players focus on real cricket not IPL. but its quite funny that with so many players from Aus, SA, Eng WI and NZ participate in the event still when there is no Pak its quickly losing its charm.

  • Stark62 on October 9, 2011, 13:47 GMT

    Hmm......

    Will it benefit Pak cricket?

    It will definitely dissolve some tension between the two nations but cricketing wise it won't do any good.

    Pak didn't play the 2nd or the 3rd edition of the ipl and went on to win the T20 WC. English bowlers didn't participate in the ipl either and then their bowling line up won them the T20 WC.

    Plus, Pak batsmen are usually very aggressive and that's why T20 suits them but with more T20 games, they will have an even weaker technique for the longer formats.

  • Zahidsaltin on October 9, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    It will be good for IPL if they include pakistani players. Like every product, they need to add new atributes too. But I as a pakistani, do not think it's a good idea for Pakistan cricket. The players should have a limited exposure to T20 so that they can develope their basic techniques. In the longer run, accesive T20 ruins the up coming talent.

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    Better without IPL, it would be disadvantagous only. Yes PAK-India ties should resume for bilateral series and PAK T20 champions should be included in CLT20 if it really is a champions league. But none of these should be begged, apart from having unfortunate incidents, we have done better recently.

  • FadalKhan on October 9, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    T20 cricket without Pakistani players can be better compare with the sky at the night without stars. That is the reason I never take interest in the IPL T20. More people have the same idea about Pakistani players. They think Pakistani players are been made for T20 cricket. It is not only thinking but in real if a glimpse on records can be put, it will be clear that most Pakistani players have lot of experience and better track record in T20 cricket. Some people think that Pakistani players are looking for money to get from IPL T20 but it is not like that. "IT IS ALL ABOUT THE EXCITEMENT". People who think so should think first what they had given to their own country and to the people of their own country and especially to those for whom cricket is LIFE. I hope (not only me but thousands of people like me) can be the witness for the next IPL T20.

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    Good sign i think. But it is too late if they invite Pakistanis. Becuase IPL is of almost 2 months more than WC's schedule,There will be lot of injuries.After bad behavior from indians to reject them in IPL 2.I think if the players are wise they will not go to play there.The only thing PCB will want i think,that will be 1 or 2 slots in CLT20.

  • Taz786 on October 9, 2011, 13:26 GMT

    If Pakistani players end up playing in the next IPL onwards, then they will go the same way the top players from Windies cricket has gone. They will start choosing club over country and refuse to sign contracts with their board and go play freelance like what Gayle and co have done.

    Agree that a Pakistani team should be allowed to take part in a CLT20 competition along with a team from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, that's what makes it a truly world class competition.

    If Pak and Ind can find a slot when to play each other, then UK or UAE is a perfect venue for as a Neutral venue on which to play as there is plenty of support there.

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    what a typical hypocratic answer, if Pakistani players weren't banned becasue of being Pakistani then why not let there t20 champions play in champions league, and for the benifit of PAKISTAN CRICKET THANK IPL FOR NOT SELECTING PAK. PLAYERS. OR ELSE THEY BE OPTING FOR IPL RATHER THAN PAKISTAN.AND I DONT THINK I NEED TO SHOW ANY EXAMPLES HERE, INCLUSION OF PAKISTANI PLAYERS WILL DO A BIG DAMAGE TO PAKISTANI PLAYERS. SO PLEASE STAY CLEAR OF PAKISTANI PLAYERS.

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Dont let them in IPL!

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:07 GMT

    I dont care if the play in IPL or not since they are getting offers from south african and australian teams as well. All I want is to have pakistani clubs play in CLT20.

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    I think Pakistani players should not take part in IPL because every one saw the Indian Team's performance in England. That was a gift for India from IPL...

  • on October 9, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    If they didn't ban Pakistani Players then why Pakistani Domestic T20 Champion side in Champions League? Surly Pakistani players were banned. Come on Shukla...........

  • on October 9, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    I don't think Pakistani players should play in the IPL at all, even if offered decent contracts. IPL is a joke and is in place only for money making ogre's. The fitness levels of players as well as technique's drop to a low, low level and discipline of the players will also be affected. Look at the Indian players, they are completely burn't out and cannot bowl a fast ball to save their life. Injuries are rife, some made up for advantages (Mumbai Indians) and extra money. If Pakistan players want to take part, I think an CLT20 team from Pakistan should be allowed to play. But then again Indian's will not allow that to happen as they will have a proper contest. NO, NO, NO, NO Pakistan, ignore the IPL.....

  • nide on October 9, 2011, 12:20 GMT

    I think Test players don't compete in IPL, We should give chance to youngsters form Pakistani team

  • BoonBoom on October 9, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    I would prefer Pakistani players do not take part in IPL. In my opinion IPL gives more disadvantages. It will ruin technique, tempramant and ability to stay at the wicket. I dont see ANY ADVANTAGE of this circus called IPL. It is run by jokers and participated by all those who want to make money rather than playing cricket at the highest level.

  • Javiq on October 9, 2011, 11:19 GMT

    After a long time Mr. Shukla has a bit more friendly take on Pakistani players and I believe that it reflects the overall mood of Indian Camp that they may be open and happy to take Pakistani players. If it happens this is a good news for Pakistani players. I am sure players such as Mohd. Hafeez, Razzaq, Akmals and Gul can snap up a decent contracts while there should also be place for Riaz somewhere. Like many other Pakistanis I follow IPL but just on cricinfo. I don't watch it because there are no Pakistani players and viewership will definitely increase as well as local TV sponsors.

  • on October 9, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Wouldn't be a big issue for me if they ain't selected in the IPL but the Pakistani teams do deserve to have their team play in the CLT20... After all, the world's top 3 leading wicket-takers in Twenty20 Internationals are from Pakistan (1.Boom Boom Afridi/2.Gul/3.Ajmal)

  • tanvir1974 on October 9, 2011, 10:22 GMT

    i will prefer to pakistan main squad players better not to play IPL. this league only ruin and destroy fitness and performance in Test and ODI which is a live exampl of India tour to England and worst defeat in both series. Pakistan top players will not go for IPL.

  • on October 9, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    Personally, i dont think the Pakistani players should compete in the IPL, they have done amazingly well without the IPL (Just look at the last 5 ICC tournaments). IPL wil run its course and you dont want players getting injured whne required for Internamtional Duty.

  • Rakim on October 9, 2011, 10:09 GMT

    About time. Maybe Pak players are the missing element in IPL. And then I might find it "entertaining"

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  • Rakim on October 9, 2011, 10:09 GMT

    About time. Maybe Pak players are the missing element in IPL. And then I might find it "entertaining"

  • on October 9, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    Personally, i dont think the Pakistani players should compete in the IPL, they have done amazingly well without the IPL (Just look at the last 5 ICC tournaments). IPL wil run its course and you dont want players getting injured whne required for Internamtional Duty.

  • tanvir1974 on October 9, 2011, 10:22 GMT

    i will prefer to pakistan main squad players better not to play IPL. this league only ruin and destroy fitness and performance in Test and ODI which is a live exampl of India tour to England and worst defeat in both series. Pakistan top players will not go for IPL.

  • on October 9, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Wouldn't be a big issue for me if they ain't selected in the IPL but the Pakistani teams do deserve to have their team play in the CLT20... After all, the world's top 3 leading wicket-takers in Twenty20 Internationals are from Pakistan (1.Boom Boom Afridi/2.Gul/3.Ajmal)

  • Javiq on October 9, 2011, 11:19 GMT

    After a long time Mr. Shukla has a bit more friendly take on Pakistani players and I believe that it reflects the overall mood of Indian Camp that they may be open and happy to take Pakistani players. If it happens this is a good news for Pakistani players. I am sure players such as Mohd. Hafeez, Razzaq, Akmals and Gul can snap up a decent contracts while there should also be place for Riaz somewhere. Like many other Pakistanis I follow IPL but just on cricinfo. I don't watch it because there are no Pakistani players and viewership will definitely increase as well as local TV sponsors.

  • BoonBoom on October 9, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    I would prefer Pakistani players do not take part in IPL. In my opinion IPL gives more disadvantages. It will ruin technique, tempramant and ability to stay at the wicket. I dont see ANY ADVANTAGE of this circus called IPL. It is run by jokers and participated by all those who want to make money rather than playing cricket at the highest level.

  • nide on October 9, 2011, 12:20 GMT

    I think Test players don't compete in IPL, We should give chance to youngsters form Pakistani team

  • on October 9, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    I don't think Pakistani players should play in the IPL at all, even if offered decent contracts. IPL is a joke and is in place only for money making ogre's. The fitness levels of players as well as technique's drop to a low, low level and discipline of the players will also be affected. Look at the Indian players, they are completely burn't out and cannot bowl a fast ball to save their life. Injuries are rife, some made up for advantages (Mumbai Indians) and extra money. If Pakistan players want to take part, I think an CLT20 team from Pakistan should be allowed to play. But then again Indian's will not allow that to happen as they will have a proper contest. NO, NO, NO, NO Pakistan, ignore the IPL.....

  • on October 9, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    If they didn't ban Pakistani Players then why Pakistani Domestic T20 Champion side in Champions League? Surly Pakistani players were banned. Come on Shukla...........

  • on October 9, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    I think Pakistani players should not take part in IPL because every one saw the Indian Team's performance in England. That was a gift for India from IPL...