IPL news April 17, 2012

Worse actions than Samuels' in IPL - Ganguly

ESPNcricinfo staff
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Sourav Ganguly, the Pune Warriors captain, has defended his offspinner Marlon Samuels, saying there were bowlers with worse actions in the IPL who hadn't been warned. Samuels was reported by the umpires for a suspect action after the match against Chennai Super Kings on April 14.

Ganguly said he was surprised by on-field umpires Aleem Dar and Bruce Oxenford's decision. "If you go around the IPL, you will see worse actions," he said. "I should not be saying it because we are all part of a competition. But if Marlon gets warned for his action, then there are probably a few around who are worse."

Ganguly questioned the decision to report Samuels, who has been bowling for West Indies in international matches without being warned. "Whoever has done it has got to be careful because Marlon has bowled for the West Indies for two years and he hasn't been warned," Ganguly said. "He has bowled in the first three games of the IPL and he hasn't been warned. And I don't know what he did different in his fourth game to be warned."

As per IPL policy, Samuels will be allowed to bowl for the Warriors but should he be reported again, he will be suspended from bowling for the remainder of the season.

Samuels had problems with his action in the past. He was reported for a suspect action after the third Test between West Indies and South Africa in 2008 in Durban, when the on-field umpires raised doubts especially with regards to his quicker deliveries. He underwent remedial work, and an independent test found his action to be legal. In 2011, he was cleared for bowling in international cricket by the ICC.

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  • medyus on April 18, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    I support Ganguly defending Marlon.

    Everybody has some actions of bowling.. let icc revisit the rule book.

  • on April 18, 2012, 4:27 GMT

    @mathewjohn2176....dude i think u were born after 1983...for ur kind info India won 1983 World Cup...1985 World Series ..made two semi finals of World Cup in 1987 and 1996...

  • Bruisers on April 17, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    If he is cleared by the ICC then why the fuss??

  • Felix_E on April 17, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    @pai11 what an amazing discovery! aleem dar plays for CSK. now that's a breaking news.

  • Trakkan on April 17, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    Looking at some of the comments against CSK the desperation is quite evident. IPL has become a matter of prestige and many are not able to take defeats easily. Even though I am not specifically supporting any team it is very clear that CSK are great champions. Their victory in 2010 champions league achieved in style against overseas team in South Africa proved it all. They have great management and they dont put any pressure on the team like some of the owners do. I think Ganguly should be careful in his statements and take his team to last 4 at least once before he stops playing.

  • TendulkarDgr8 on April 17, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    I would not go in to discuss on whether it is correct on Ganguly's part to make this comment... But Ganguly is a true leader... This is a statement by a captain to help his team mate who would be low on confidence after being warned... Captaincy is not only about what you do on the field...

  • bigdhonifan on April 17, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    There is no doubting that no one understands the common cricketer's mind, heart, soul, and yes, insecurities, as well as Ganguly.

  • cheeniz on April 17, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    Mr. Mazaher Mohdal - Firstly your comment is a great insult to Aleem Dhar. He is the best Umpire around world cricket... Secondly, against CSK - Samuels went for 7.25 runs per over and did not take any wickets!!!! its obvious your jealous of CSK's success.. its more to do with the way the went about picking the right team..... good luck to whichever team u support..

  • mathewjohn2176 on April 17, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    @ saroj kumar Biswal, such an ignorant comment.marlon Samuels was reported by Aleem dar,the best umpire in the world at the moment.And he bowled quicker delivery against surya kumar yadav( Mumbai Indians) around 122kph.@nipaos,,your country produced two good captains which brought glory for you all during 2000 period under ganguly and 2009- 2010 under dhoni.Why some of Indian fans defend one captain by putting down the other captain?The players you mentioned brought under ganguly period survived due to their own cricketing skills.If they don't perform well,then all will end up like Mohamed Kaif.Same goes to kohli,dhoni backed him up when he failed ,but he survived and showed brilliance due to his own skills.Regarding this topic,ganguly should not backup the players when they found guilty by umpires,rather he should express things in a formal way by not pointing others.He can defend his teammates when there is no official complaint by umpires.

  • true.fighter on April 17, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    shahid afridi action is straight there is no point of doubt in his action.

  • medyus on April 18, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    I support Ganguly defending Marlon.

    Everybody has some actions of bowling.. let icc revisit the rule book.

  • on April 18, 2012, 4:27 GMT

    @mathewjohn2176....dude i think u were born after 1983...for ur kind info India won 1983 World Cup...1985 World Series ..made two semi finals of World Cup in 1987 and 1996...

  • Bruisers on April 17, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    If he is cleared by the ICC then why the fuss??

  • Felix_E on April 17, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    @pai11 what an amazing discovery! aleem dar plays for CSK. now that's a breaking news.

  • Trakkan on April 17, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    Looking at some of the comments against CSK the desperation is quite evident. IPL has become a matter of prestige and many are not able to take defeats easily. Even though I am not specifically supporting any team it is very clear that CSK are great champions. Their victory in 2010 champions league achieved in style against overseas team in South Africa proved it all. They have great management and they dont put any pressure on the team like some of the owners do. I think Ganguly should be careful in his statements and take his team to last 4 at least once before he stops playing.

  • TendulkarDgr8 on April 17, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    I would not go in to discuss on whether it is correct on Ganguly's part to make this comment... But Ganguly is a true leader... This is a statement by a captain to help his team mate who would be low on confidence after being warned... Captaincy is not only about what you do on the field...

  • bigdhonifan on April 17, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    There is no doubting that no one understands the common cricketer's mind, heart, soul, and yes, insecurities, as well as Ganguly.

  • cheeniz on April 17, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    Mr. Mazaher Mohdal - Firstly your comment is a great insult to Aleem Dhar. He is the best Umpire around world cricket... Secondly, against CSK - Samuels went for 7.25 runs per over and did not take any wickets!!!! its obvious your jealous of CSK's success.. its more to do with the way the went about picking the right team..... good luck to whichever team u support..

  • mathewjohn2176 on April 17, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    @ saroj kumar Biswal, such an ignorant comment.marlon Samuels was reported by Aleem dar,the best umpire in the world at the moment.And he bowled quicker delivery against surya kumar yadav( Mumbai Indians) around 122kph.@nipaos,,your country produced two good captains which brought glory for you all during 2000 period under ganguly and 2009- 2010 under dhoni.Why some of Indian fans defend one captain by putting down the other captain?The players you mentioned brought under ganguly period survived due to their own cricketing skills.If they don't perform well,then all will end up like Mohamed Kaif.Same goes to kohli,dhoni backed him up when he failed ,but he survived and showed brilliance due to his own skills.Regarding this topic,ganguly should not backup the players when they found guilty by umpires,rather he should express things in a formal way by not pointing others.He can defend his teammates when there is no official complaint by umpires.

  • true.fighter on April 17, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    shahid afridi action is straight there is no point of doubt in his action.

  • pai11 on April 17, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    "And I don't know what he did different in his fourth game to be warned." well Dada you ought to know... He bowled against CSK and moreover CSK lost!!!! well something had to happen....

  • on April 17, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    Dada is right,becoz samuel's bowling action is already cleared by ICC.No umpire can question his bowling action

  • Freddie.Dcosta on April 17, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    Well, there has to be one measure for all, that's all Ganguly has said. Isn't it right?

  • Masud_BITK on April 17, 2012, 9:55 GMT

    I am a good fan of Sourav. However, he has to be more diplomatic when he is favoring his team mates. Aleem Dar is the No 1 umpire on this planet, he must know better than Sourav. Plus, others are not warned does not mean that Samuel should have received the similar facilities. Please calm down....

  • Nipaos on April 17, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    Now what people perceive of Dada's comments would be their individual opinions irrespective of people backing/opposing him. But this would have done enough good for Samuel's confidence. This is way i always feel Dada has been the best Indian captain ever. Judging him from the view of not winning world cup would be injustice to Ganguly. He might not have earned that but the respect he earned as a leader is tremendous. Nothing against Dhoni, but at the best he is a good manager but a leader who would manage within the resources he has. Dada spotted and brought atleast 3 great talent - Yuvi, ZAK, Sehwag, Dhoni couldn't manage a single yet. Even what happened to Virat has been a part of his strong IPL & CL run.

  • on April 17, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    Maybe the next technology to be used is one for onfield detection of illegal bowling actions because, as was suggested, some players may actually be cleared when tested by the ICC, at some remote location, but revert to their illegal actions in match situations. Onfield detection will have the effect of punishing the culprits when it occurs. Captains should be allowed to call for reviews of actions on the field.

  • on April 17, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    Just because it caused trouble to CSK its reported IPL continues to remain a CSK MI tounament

  • PSKI on April 17, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    Surely, I expected better from Ganguly. What sort of an argument is this ... that others have worse actions than Samuels. Samuels has been called by none other than Aleem Dar. Ganguly should either accept that and ask Samuels to take care, or say that he feels that Samuels action is fair.

  • Nothing_Lost_For_Ever on April 17, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    Dear Dada, if I dont have flu today does not mean tomorrow also I will not have flu

  • mandi on April 17, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    dada saying right thing,je have gutts to speak

  • Erebus26 on April 17, 2012, 7:41 GMT

    Sourav at his best...

    A bit perplexing that Marlon's bowling action has been cleared by the ICC, and that he's not been reported up until now considering that he's played international and domestic cricket all over the world. Maybe he has slipped back into old habits? Who knows...

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  • Erebus26 on April 17, 2012, 7:41 GMT

    Sourav at his best...

    A bit perplexing that Marlon's bowling action has been cleared by the ICC, and that he's not been reported up until now considering that he's played international and domestic cricket all over the world. Maybe he has slipped back into old habits? Who knows...

  • mandi on April 17, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    dada saying right thing,je have gutts to speak

  • Nothing_Lost_For_Ever on April 17, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    Dear Dada, if I dont have flu today does not mean tomorrow also I will not have flu

  • PSKI on April 17, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    Surely, I expected better from Ganguly. What sort of an argument is this ... that others have worse actions than Samuels. Samuels has been called by none other than Aleem Dar. Ganguly should either accept that and ask Samuels to take care, or say that he feels that Samuels action is fair.

  • on April 17, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    Just because it caused trouble to CSK its reported IPL continues to remain a CSK MI tounament

  • on April 17, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    Maybe the next technology to be used is one for onfield detection of illegal bowling actions because, as was suggested, some players may actually be cleared when tested by the ICC, at some remote location, but revert to their illegal actions in match situations. Onfield detection will have the effect of punishing the culprits when it occurs. Captains should be allowed to call for reviews of actions on the field.

  • Nipaos on April 17, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    Now what people perceive of Dada's comments would be their individual opinions irrespective of people backing/opposing him. But this would have done enough good for Samuel's confidence. This is way i always feel Dada has been the best Indian captain ever. Judging him from the view of not winning world cup would be injustice to Ganguly. He might not have earned that but the respect he earned as a leader is tremendous. Nothing against Dhoni, but at the best he is a good manager but a leader who would manage within the resources he has. Dada spotted and brought atleast 3 great talent - Yuvi, ZAK, Sehwag, Dhoni couldn't manage a single yet. Even what happened to Virat has been a part of his strong IPL & CL run.

  • Masud_BITK on April 17, 2012, 9:55 GMT

    I am a good fan of Sourav. However, he has to be more diplomatic when he is favoring his team mates. Aleem Dar is the No 1 umpire on this planet, he must know better than Sourav. Plus, others are not warned does not mean that Samuel should have received the similar facilities. Please calm down....

  • Freddie.Dcosta on April 17, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    Well, there has to be one measure for all, that's all Ganguly has said. Isn't it right?

  • on April 17, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    Dada is right,becoz samuel's bowling action is already cleared by ICC.No umpire can question his bowling action