Mumbai v Delhi, IPL 2013, Mumbai

Karthik happy to be given chance at No. 3

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April 10, 2013

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Dinesh Karthik plays down the leg side, Mumbai Indians v Delhi Daredevils, IPL, Mumbai, April 9, 2013
Dinesh Karthik: "When I bat at No. 3, it gives me the opportunity to play in the Powerplay" © BCCI
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Dinesh Karthik, the Mumbai Indians wicketkeeper-batsman, is enjoying his time at No. 3. Batting up the order, Karthik said after setting up Mumbai's victory over Delhi Daredevils with an explosive 86, allowed him to take advantage of the Powerplay.

Karthik's half-century came after Mumbai were reduced to 1 for 2, with Sachin Tendulkar and Ricky Ponting dismissed within the first two overs of the match. It came after knocks of 37 (a steadying innings against Chennai Super Kings after another poor start for Mumbai) and 60 (against Royal Challengers Bangalore, in a game where Mumbai fell two runs short). The tournament's leading run-scorer so far, Karthik's runs have come at a strike-rate of 166, easily the best among the top 10 batsmen on the runs-aggregate chart.

"When I bat at No. 3, it gives me the opportunity to play in the Powerplay. It's a slot that I really like batting at," Karthik said after the Daredevils game. "It is important that when a team like Mumbai Indians gives you the opportunity up at the top, you have got to [repay] their faith, and show some effort and get some runs."

Karthik strung together a 131-run stand with Rohit Sharma at over 10 runs an over. Rohit provided him with ideal support, Karthik said: "Rohit and I put up a big partnership and the way he batted was just beautiful. He was giving me the strike when I required it and, towards the end, he hit the big shots after I got out."

Ponting and Tendulkar began this year's IPL with a half-century stand against Royal Challengers, albeit at a little over a run a ball, but have not been able to contribute much with the bat since. Ponting followed up his opening-game 28 with scores of 6 and 0. Despite his failures with the bat, Karthik said, Ponting was still having a big influence on the team.

"The intensity he brings on the field has been out of the world," he said. "Probably in terms of runs he has not had a great IPL thus far, but just the intensity he brings towards captaincy and trying to bring the unit together [is admirable]. He is a great captain."

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Posted by jimbond on (April 12, 2013, 6:11 GMT)

Karthik needs to be consistent for a few years at the first class level to be considered as a contender for a middle level slot. A big few scores in IPL is not going to be enough. For the WK role, Dhoni is head and shoulders above Karthik. Karthik is definitely talented, but he has not made full use of the several chances that he has got at the International level. For the middle order role, several others have much better credentials than Karthik (especially in terms of first class performance)- Pujara, Kohli,Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Badrinath, Manoj Tiwary- to name a few.

Posted by SamRoy on (April 11, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

Karthik should replace Dhoni when India tours SA, Australia and England for the tests. Better batting technique. Dhoni's technique of jabbing at the ball with not enough foot movement is dangerous on faster, bouncier pitches. In the sub-continent Dhoni is simply irreplaceable.

Posted by Raj12345 on (April 11, 2013, 14:03 GMT)

@Nampally - 100% agree with your comments.

Also I am seeing other fans are agreeing that DK should be given as middle order batsman. This was my argument for years.

If anyone look back, DK openly said that Dhoni is doing great and so he will not get chance as a WK and he is competing with RG, Kohli & Pujara for middle order spot. I was always surprised by selectors that he is never given single chance as middle order batsman. Hope this time he will be given chance.

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (April 11, 2013, 12:57 GMT)

Karthik is definitely a very good player against the moving ball and quality pace as he has proved in England and South Africa. I feel he does particularly well at the top of the order.He is experienced as well despite his limited opportunities. But I fail to understand how illuvcricket can be so dismissive of the others he has named in his comment. In South Africa if the team goes early and is well conditioned to the pace and bounce in the wickets I think they will do well.The point that surprises me about the comment is that all of Rahane,Vijay and Pujara are good back foot players. So I am a little surprised at such comments made by anyone.

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

@ Venkat Sriram,@ marseelan...Dinesh karthik is far better player Than Dhoni Remember his performance in England as Test opener in testing condition and recall Dhoni's performance in England & Australia you will get answer who has quality! one cannot great player by only performing in home he should prove overseas also thats what made Dravid,Sachin so great! im not telling DK is greatest player but comparing with MSD he is far better and deserves a selection to South aftrica WHERE SURELY dHONI AND OTHERS EXCEPT KOHLI WILL FAIL MISERABLY PROVIDED IF SACHIN IS NOT THERE!

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Two Good innings from Karthik and people are suddenly comparing him with Dhoni. Yes he played superbly and fluently in this IPL so far. But that doesn't make him a better player than Dhoni. It is a very easy choice for Dhoni to bat at number 3 ,4 , where he has had a lot of success and has had a superb average . But he chose to bat at number 5,6 which is a very difficult position to bat . Dhoni scores when it matters a lot. DK has been very inconsistent both with the bat and behind the stumps.

Having said that , it is very unfortunate for DK that he is playing in the same era as Dhoni. what Dk should do is to perform consistently and stake a claim in the Team again.

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 9:24 GMT)

pls don't compare him with msd ...msd is far better than him in captaincy and wicket keeping..........

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 7:14 GMT)

Right now mumbai team is on top because of the services of karthik, Delhi team management is real loser, by releasing players like gambhir, karthik, devilliers and so on. they should ve hold their key players but now they are really weak.

Posted by a1234s on (April 11, 2013, 4:52 GMT)

Karthik at no 3 is the best position for him. Sachin and Ponting at the top, Karthik, Rayudu, Sharma and then Pollard.. that would be relentless and wouldnt give the bowlers any respite. the one change I can think of is Maxwell for Malinga.

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 4:29 GMT)

actually greg chappell termed dinesh karthik as captaincy material. dk is far better player and keeper than msd... no doubt. he has performed very well in south africa and should be picked for the tour.

Posted by   on (April 11, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

He has a great piece of timing and temperament too. He was the one who guided India to victory in its first T20 International by hitting a six off the last ball.

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 18:43 GMT)

Karthik still looks like a kid trying to show everybody a point. Perhaps the only thing he is showing is that he lacks the maturity to play at the highest level. Everybody has a good run at some point. Best to recognise that and appreciate it for what it is. Nobody plays like that on a consistent basis.

Posted by Dhanno on (April 10, 2013, 17:23 GMT)

MI will lose crunch games due to the failure of top two. In any case this is lopsided league, teams with riches RCB, MI, CSK, KKR on one side and all the other wannabes, with their luck of few known players and then some more. But specifically MI cannot compete with the teams in its league on longer run due to obsession with Sachin and now Ponting (compulsion caused by making him captain). Sachin cant score more than run a ball, that too can happen if he plays 40 balls. If you have noticed, he takes time to settle in, his last days of ODI were same. SRT will make a 60 and maybe his SR will be 90+ but that will happen after he is set at crease (last 20-25 deliveries). He would struggle his first 3-4 overs. You cant have that at T20 level. Add to that Ponting, great batsman but not someone you want at top for T20. He takes up one Overseas player spot, cant bat at more than 100 SR, again utter waste of opening slot (and the first 6 overs). So if MI reach Semis, these will cost them game.

Posted by rosh280 on (April 10, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

@ravi hari. see you speak the language of strengths and weaknesses but reality is that you may be new to the cricket. see the records made by him. just see the statistics of his performance.he has almost 7000 runs in class A level matches with 24 centuries and 48 fifties with an average of 60. his highest run is 218 not out.then there is no explanation needed for his performances in 20-20. he is the reliable player. dhoni is not near to him. there is no ill- luck. he is not srikant type player. he is a classy player of tendulkar, dravid era. jadeja is not even near to him. dinesh karthik, c m gowtham, v a jagadeesh, ambati rayudu, manprit juneja, manan vohra, stuart binny, gurkeerat singh are the reliable players who can play any fast and slow bowlers they proved at many levels. in this ipl also they played class players like dale steyn, money morkel, nannes, chris morris, m samuels, muralidharan and many bowlers. I feel they should be given some chance. splending catch by G mann.

Posted by rijulshah on (April 10, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

the only hope for karthik is that he improves his keeping, so that he will be second choice keeper after dhoni and ahead of saha and parthiv, both of them have struggled at international level

Posted by Lovetesh on (April 10, 2013, 16:18 GMT)

After Malinga, this is the best acquisition by MI as far as the performance and impact is concerned. DD traded Karthik and are now facing the music from him.

Posted by Alexk400 on (April 10, 2013, 15:55 GMT)

Karthik has all the shots in the book. Key is how to play within himself and play long inning. If he play long inning , he will be a batsman. When he gets oppurtunity he has to prove himself just batsman in that sense 50s not enough , he has to make centuries to keep his place. 1 billion people wants to be in Test team so he should not squander his chances when he gets test spot again. He is better test player than any indian player we have now.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (April 10, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

I have no doubt that Dinesh should be opening with Dwayne. He is immensely talented. Thanks to the obsession of Statchin that the opener slot is under reservation list. Rayudu at 3 and Pollard at 4 is what MI should have. As long as the white elephant is in the room, it's not possible to have a productive batting order. Indian national team knows that. It is now time for MI to get that experience.

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

I hope Dinesh carrys the same momentum thoughout the tournament. Good luck MIs.

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 14:16 GMT)

Karthik should get a chance as a middle order batman in ODI atlst....also it will be helpful for dhoni in wicket-keeping...bt i m sure he wont get a chance until dhoni is there as a wicketkeeper!!!

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

Dinesh Kaarthick is a class player much like Rohit Sharma, when i see them play I see talent oozing out of them but in the past they weren't consistent. Kaarthick would walk in this test team even as a specialist Batsman. Don't forget the way he played in England he was the one who provided good starts http://www.espncricinfo.com/engvind/engine/series/258452.html which were/are rare for the Indian team overseas. He should be picked up for the SA series as he's got horizontal shots and has the footwork to play in overseas conditions. Except for MSD he would have been a regular in Indian side. Go Well Dude!

Posted by ravi_hari on (April 10, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

Karthik has been around for quite some time and knows his strengths and weaknesses. He did have his chances but was not really consistant. He was not given chances like many others though. When he bats well his keeping is affected and when he concentrates on keeping batting gets affected. His ill-luck is that Dhoni is the captain in all formats. Unless Dhoni decides to quit any format there is no space for a second keeper. I dont think Dhoni will play only as batsman in any format to accommodate a keeper. Similarly, when there are so many batsmen vying for the limited slots, there is no chance of taking someone who can also bat. Karthik is unlucky to have been born in this era. The more I look at him the more I recall Srikkanth. Both bat with the same carefree attitude. If Karthik wants to force himself into the team. he needs to score heavily like Jadeja did and improve his fielding. Only then he can be looked at a specialist batsman, though that too looks remote at present.

Posted by Nampally on (April 10, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

I think Karthik is too modest to pass the credit on to Ponting. Whilst Ponting was a great leader, none of MI victories were possible without Karthik's heroics & consistent batting performance + his very high S/R. I would say the way he is batting now, he would run away with MI's MOM for the IPL- if he keeps up his consistency. I hope the Indian Selectors are watching him & would do well to include him for SA tour. Karthik's path was blocked by Dhoni's coincidental arrival as a Captain/WK. I read an excellent advise (by Sir. Ivor) else where, that Karthik gives up his WK to get in as a batsman. I fully agree. The WK stamp is hampering his selection as a batsman. He could open the innings or fit in the middle order. While praising Ponting for his excellent Captaincy, it must not be forgotten it is Karthik who has put MI In "W" column & enhanced Ponting's reputation. Typical "old time" Indian humility is evident in Karthik!

Posted by Richvii on (April 10, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

Karthik is a good player of both pace and spin. i am surprised to see that why Kohli is being rated so high. He is so vulnerable outside the off stump against pace! He is strong on the onside and what is disturbing to see that bowlers have fed him mostly on the leg side in the IPL!South Africa tour will be a testing time for Kohli!Pujara, Rahane and Karthik have better technique than him , especially against swing/fast bowling! Dhoni is of different breed! Don't look at his technique, but the sheer determination to deliver in crisis, consistently, has made him a great batsman! No one can deny the heroics Dhoni has displayed in crunch time in all formats of the game! Our fast bowling options are not restricted anymore.Pleasantly surprised to see that Rahul Shukla bowl a 147 kph delivery and consistently bowled at 143-142kph.! This is good news for India!

Posted by britishcricketfan on (April 10, 2013, 12:59 GMT)

Ponting isnt an opener nor a t20 player. So continually playing him, as an opener as well, is quite laughable, especially when he keeps on scoring low.

Posted by Naresh28 on (April 10, 2013, 12:56 GMT)

@naren lets not forget that Shiktar Dhawan has almost sealed one openers slot. And then there is Vijay. Karthik amazes us with his hook shot and has played many other strokes. Pujara, Rahane, Rohit Sharma are others who could play in the middle. One should also look at young Chand. So all in all we have a healthy competition for slots, however the ones who prove their worth on overseas track will succeed. Of course I am mixing test/Odi players. The IPL has done one valuable thing for India and that is our players are learning new tricks whilst mingling with foreign players/coaches - the bowlers would benefit from this the most.

Posted by Neeta on (April 10, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

Before this tournament started, I was advocating the name of Dinesh Karthick right from the beginning as the reserve WK for the SA tour. The guy performed brilliantly for Chennai through the whole season, be it first class matches, zonal one dayers, duleep trophy, deodhar for South Zone etc. He was simply unstoppable. Most of these knocks were played under pressure as the other heavyweights like Badrinath and Mukund failed miserably and Vijay also failed miserably whenever he came back from his international duties to play domestic cricket. DK has really reinvented his game and gone are those days when he would throw it away after getting a start. He is needed for SA tour as he is a good player of fast bowling and he also played as a specialist batsman once in test match in SA as opener and did well. So take him there and see him perform whenever a place opens up for him in the side. He is definitely ahead of Saha at this stage for the reserve wicketkeeper's slot.

Posted by Naresh28 on (April 10, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

The DETRACTORS of Rohit Sharma should look at properly at what Rohit could offer the Indian team. Just need to let him play one big innings. Definitely a talented batsman. Him and Dinesh Karthik are good enough for India. Greg Chappell once spoke highly of these two. I as a fan have always liked his style and have seen him fail many a time but know there is something there . Last year in the IPL he scored a breath taking century. Another player is Chand. Chand has proved that he can bat in overseas tracks.

Posted by Rajeshj on (April 10, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

Rather than seeing him as a reserve keeper, I think DK deserves a nod more as a batsman too.. In 9 years of international cricket, he has played just around 50 ODIs... he was not given a proper place in the team and would bat at No.4 in one match, then a No. 7 in the next match and then a opener in the very next match... how can you expect consistency in such a scenario.. he would play better than Rohit or anyone else, if provided a decent chance...

Posted by GRVJPR on (April 10, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

Selcetors should select karthik as second keeper in team. He gives so many options. Can play as a pure batsmen and also give option of extra opener in case murali vijay struggles.

Posted by naren1983 on (April 10, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

@FATEHPUR.PARIS11: I agree the current form of DK is better than Dhoni. But consistency is not there with DK, then why he lost the place from Indian XI. Dhoni who filled the long term problem of proper wicketkeeper batsman, he dominating the ODI and T20. Look at the order he is coming in ODI & T20, if he comes up the order, he will score more runs and centuries, but still look at his average in ODI. Hope DK will earn his place this time as a Opener as our So-called Sehwag & Gambhir's form becoming poor and poor. Pujara is also in contender as Opener in their poor form. Lets see who will clinch it, Pujara/DK. Lets see.. All the best guys..

Posted by deepaksingh932 on (April 10, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

Kartik can't play defining innings like Dhoni often does when the team needs. Anyone had seen this many time by dhoni, But rarely this can be expected from kartik.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (April 10, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

DK always had talent - what he lacked was self belief. Believe in yourself, man. After all if you don't believe in yourself, how do you expect others to believe in you??? Don't say rubbish like - I am so happy SRT knows my name. Say things like - I can perform better than SRT. Well, at this point anyone can perform better than SRT, but you get my point.

Posted by King-Cobra on (April 10, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

"It is important that when a team like Mumbai Indians gives you the opportunity up at the top, you have got to [repay] their faith, and show some effort and get some runs."

That sounds a very sincere opinion Mr.Karthik. I do remember that you were consistently picked for the national side a few years back, and I cannot recall any such commitment then. So Mumbai comes ahead of the Nation for you eh?

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

hope he is the second wicket-keeper in champions trophy

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

@praveen Dandra For your kind information he is not 'lucky batsman' he is very talented batsman he's not able to come to come to indian team because he has to compete with only wicket keeper batsman in the indian cricket Mr. cool. if not he would have easily in the team...

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

@FatherpurParis11: Just that he has played a consistent knock in IPL, we can't compare him with Dhoni. I agree karthik is gr8 player and i wants him to be in the Indian team as i hv seen her efforts in chennai. But you shudn't compare him with dhoni. With Dravid and Laxman not available in Test, giving Kohli and Karthik that position is a nice idea. Even Dhoni can relax a bit offshoring his keeping gloves and it will also create space for improving and fine tuning his captaincy skills.

Posted by satishchandar on (April 10, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

ROFL "When I bat at No. 3, it gives me the opportunity to play in the Powerplay.".. What a confidence.. Expecting one of Punter/Sachin to fail certainly.. If not both..

Posted by   on (April 10, 2013, 10:35 GMT)

Dear Karthik, lets see how far you can carry on with this momentum buddy.. Good luck!

Posted by lijinjay12 on (April 10, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

Ahahahahahaha... Even Karthik knows that Ponting and Tendulkar aren't good enough to survive the powerplay lol!

Posted by FATEHPUR.PARIS11 on (April 10, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

He is better than Dhoni is many aspects, his Twenty and Test batting is better then Dhoni and in ODI also he is not lesser than him.

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