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  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 23:09 GMT

    This behaviour originates from the example provided by the on-field captain at the time.

    Its Kohli for me - talented but over-promoted and a slave to his unmoderated aggression. He cannnot fume or bully his way out of RCB's poor performance in IPL14. Results are results and more subtlety is required, despite the pressure.

    Does DeVilliers have a voice? Or the arse-sitting "Top" Management? They should.

    Also, lets not compare IPL to EPL please. Cricket is not football. The demands are orthogonal. A relation could be argued in terms of market and fan manipulation; principally the idea of a molten club/franchise rivalry. But even this is mostly spurious, despite the testosterone of the moment.

    Good luck all.

  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    It's good that cricket follows good ethics and behaviour. But T20 should bring in that aggression and small altercations like these should be made acceptable. Look a tall the American sports... they catch the crowd's attention through these little altercations and people REMEMBER these things a lot and popularize a particular game.

  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    Ravi: "Tell me one player who has been fined $50,000 anywhere." English Premier League socer players are regularly fined 2 weeks' wages (about $100,000, depending on the player) for breaches of discipline, and regularly banned from a number of games for yellow/red cards. It seems to have little or no discernible effect on behaviour.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 9, 2014, 2:55 GMT

    Appelling behaviour by so called role models. Young stars are fast catching up to emulate their heroes. One needs just watch the recently concluded under 19 world cup to see their behaviour.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 22:09 GMT

    It's not fair that Pollard got more punishment than Starc. Unless he physically hit Starc both should have got same punishment. Actually it wad Starc who ignited it.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 20:52 GMT

    Why is Pollard get the hardest punishment when is Starc start the incident.

  • POSTED BY Ammo666 on | May 8, 2014, 19:18 GMT

    Its was starc who started sledging pollard & then again he kept on so it was starc's fault to take to this far! Between what was virat doing with pollard again when pollard himself seemed nice with him...if he would give him a bang with his heavy iron hands then virat would know with whom he is dealing with!! when this guy virat would change by his attitude??? doing unnecessary acts on the field being a fielder won't make him a hero, so it suits him much better when he is batting on the field to be a hero...

  • POSTED BY Reuelsean on | May 8, 2014, 19:13 GMT

    Starc was the one who started this entire incident but Pollard got the bigger fine? How does Strac, deliberately throw a ball at someone and get away with a 50% fine? Maybe Pollard needed to allow Starc to actually hit him with the ball for Starc to get equal or greater punishment?

  • POSTED BY P-A-P on | May 8, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    Pollard should have known better, don't expect anything different from an Aussie...

  • POSTED BY delboy on | May 8, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Why has this become a Kieron Pollard and Mitchell Starc and not Mitchell Starc and Kieron Pollard issue? The whole thing started with Starc. It also ended with him as he caused Pollard to get so revved up that he ran himself out.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Why give a second chance. The way they behaved was not like Gentleman as the game of cricket is called.

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    dem aussies figure they rule.but we will catch dem in the wi

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    All the WI/AUS heat suggest that this is a perfect time to organize a bilateral test series. Sure WI are ranked 8th, but they fight harder when riled up. This way, we can keep the heat on the field and it could be good fun for the spectators.

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    I am looking forward to the owners of both teams banning them for at least one match each to convey message that they don't endorse such behaviour.

    It has been such a pleasure seeing players from different countries and different teams behaving like friends. Let the spirit stay.

  • POSTED BY Twinkie on | May 8, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    So it seems to have taken a few looks for some people to recognise what I could have told you even without watching. Starc bowled the ball to hit Pollard when Pollard had obviously walked away. Exactly how is that different from throwing the bat? Both meant to hurt the other. But Starc meant it first. How does he get off lighter? Does the man who kills with a baseball bat deserve a lesser sentence than one who kills with gun?

  • POSTED BY ronaldgreat on | May 8, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    Starc should have been given the harsher punishment. he started it and no one knows what was said. There are some words that have and will push your buttons....Zidane Zidan incident is one example.

  • POSTED BY YogiRaj51 on | May 8, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    And the fight between WI and Aus goes on, if it will be football they will be given red card but its gentlemen's game huh :)

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    What about Bumrah who is still not born giving send off to a legend like ABD

  • POSTED BY rawr94 on | May 8, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    Daren Powell did something similar to Brendon McCullum in a Test around 2008, except Powell was annoyed that NZ had passed their total with only a few wickets lost.

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  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 23:09 GMT

    This behaviour originates from the example provided by the on-field captain at the time.

    Its Kohli for me - talented but over-promoted and a slave to his unmoderated aggression. He cannnot fume or bully his way out of RCB's poor performance in IPL14. Results are results and more subtlety is required, despite the pressure.

    Does DeVilliers have a voice? Or the arse-sitting "Top" Management? They should.

    Also, lets not compare IPL to EPL please. Cricket is not football. The demands are orthogonal. A relation could be argued in terms of market and fan manipulation; principally the idea of a molten club/franchise rivalry. But even this is mostly spurious, despite the testosterone of the moment.

    Good luck all.

  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    It's good that cricket follows good ethics and behaviour. But T20 should bring in that aggression and small altercations like these should be made acceptable. Look a tall the American sports... they catch the crowd's attention through these little altercations and people REMEMBER these things a lot and popularize a particular game.

  • POSTED BY on | May 9, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    Ravi: "Tell me one player who has been fined $50,000 anywhere." English Premier League socer players are regularly fined 2 weeks' wages (about $100,000, depending on the player) for breaches of discipline, and regularly banned from a number of games for yellow/red cards. It seems to have little or no discernible effect on behaviour.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 9, 2014, 2:55 GMT

    Appelling behaviour by so called role models. Young stars are fast catching up to emulate their heroes. One needs just watch the recently concluded under 19 world cup to see their behaviour.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 22:09 GMT

    It's not fair that Pollard got more punishment than Starc. Unless he physically hit Starc both should have got same punishment. Actually it wad Starc who ignited it.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 20:52 GMT

    Why is Pollard get the hardest punishment when is Starc start the incident.

  • POSTED BY Ammo666 on | May 8, 2014, 19:18 GMT

    Its was starc who started sledging pollard & then again he kept on so it was starc's fault to take to this far! Between what was virat doing with pollard again when pollard himself seemed nice with him...if he would give him a bang with his heavy iron hands then virat would know with whom he is dealing with!! when this guy virat would change by his attitude??? doing unnecessary acts on the field being a fielder won't make him a hero, so it suits him much better when he is batting on the field to be a hero...

  • POSTED BY Reuelsean on | May 8, 2014, 19:13 GMT

    Starc was the one who started this entire incident but Pollard got the bigger fine? How does Strac, deliberately throw a ball at someone and get away with a 50% fine? Maybe Pollard needed to allow Starc to actually hit him with the ball for Starc to get equal or greater punishment?

  • POSTED BY P-A-P on | May 8, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    Pollard should have known better, don't expect anything different from an Aussie...

  • POSTED BY delboy on | May 8, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Why has this become a Kieron Pollard and Mitchell Starc and not Mitchell Starc and Kieron Pollard issue? The whole thing started with Starc. It also ended with him as he caused Pollard to get so revved up that he ran himself out.

  • POSTED BY rawr94 on | May 8, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    Daren Powell did something similar to Brendon McCullum in a Test around 2008, except Powell was annoyed that NZ had passed their total with only a few wickets lost.

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    What about Bumrah who is still not born giving send off to a legend like ABD

  • POSTED BY YogiRaj51 on | May 8, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    And the fight between WI and Aus goes on, if it will be football they will be given red card but its gentlemen's game huh :)

  • POSTED BY ronaldgreat on | May 8, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    Starc should have been given the harsher punishment. he started it and no one knows what was said. There are some words that have and will push your buttons....Zidane Zidan incident is one example.

  • POSTED BY Twinkie on | May 8, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    So it seems to have taken a few looks for some people to recognise what I could have told you even without watching. Starc bowled the ball to hit Pollard when Pollard had obviously walked away. Exactly how is that different from throwing the bat? Both meant to hurt the other. But Starc meant it first. How does he get off lighter? Does the man who kills with a baseball bat deserve a lesser sentence than one who kills with gun?

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    I am looking forward to the owners of both teams banning them for at least one match each to convey message that they don't endorse such behaviour.

    It has been such a pleasure seeing players from different countries and different teams behaving like friends. Let the spirit stay.

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    All the WI/AUS heat suggest that this is a perfect time to organize a bilateral test series. Sure WI are ranked 8th, but they fight harder when riled up. This way, we can keep the heat on the field and it could be good fun for the spectators.

  • POSTED BY on | May 8, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    dem aussies figure they rule.but we will catch dem in the wi

  • POSTED BY android_user on | May 8, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Why give a second chance. The way they behaved was not like Gentleman as the game of cricket is called.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | May 8, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Why has this become a Kieron Pollard and Mitchell Starc and not Mitchell Starc and Kieron Pollard issue? The whole thing started with Starc. It also ended with him as he caused Pollard to get so revved up that he ran himself out.

IPL 2014 news May 8, 2014

'Pollard, Starc need a stern warning' - Shastri

Nagraj Gollapudi
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Ravi Shastri, the former India allrounder and IPL governing council member, has warned that a repeat of altercations such as the one involving Kieron Pollard and Mitchell Starc could result in much stiffer penalties for the players, including "double" their match fee or even a ban.

"They should be given a fine and then a stern warning stating that (if) once more then it could be double the penalty and even a match ban," Shastri told ESPNcricinfo. When asked whether increasing monetary sanctions alone could prevent a breach of the IPL's rules, Shastri remained confident. "It could. It is in the hands of the match referee. But I would tell the player that next time if you even come close (to a breach) you will face serious consequences."

Shastri provided the example of the "stiff" $50,000 fine imposed on then Rajasthan Royals captain Shane Warne during the 2011 IPL for breaching the playing contract. Warne had allegedly verbally abused the then Rajasthan Cricket Association secretary Sanjay Dixit, and a disciplinary panel comprising former IPL chairman Chirayu Amin and Shastri imposed the penalty. "The penalties can be pretty stiff. We penalised Warne an amount which amounted to his match fee for a match. He was on a $700,000 contract with Rajasthan Royals. Tell me one player who has been fined $50,000 anywhere."

Shastri, who also sits on the IPL's code of behaviour committee and the technical committee, said that no advisory has been issued to match referees in light of the Pollard-Starc incident since the officials were aware of the rules. "That is the match referee's jurisdiction. Only after they take a decision do we have a right to comment."

The IPL's handling of the incident has once again reopened the debate about whether slow over-rates are more important to the league than bad behaviour and attract more fines because of the impact on TV programming. Shastri rubbished the notion and said that the IPL had set a better example than anybody else, including the ICC, when it came to penalising tardy over-rates. "Slow over-rates slow the pace of the game and captains are appropriately fined. No other cricket body in the world takes so strong (an action) as the IPL. Even the ICC can take a leaf out of the IPL."

Shastri had earlier expressed his annoyance at Pollard and Starc's behavior in his Times of India column. "This one went beyond bad behavior," Shastri wrote. "You can joust, tease, stare, have a spat, give a send-off and all that can still be tolerated, but you can't almost come to blows. It bordered on violence, luckily without anything untoward happening. Both aimed to hurt each other with bat and ball. The faults by both are many - disrespect to umpires, abuse of equipment, utter disregard for the name of their employers, contempt for sponsors and injuring the spirit of the game itself.

"Starc likes to provoke. We all watched him give a mouthful to Virender Sehwag after his short ball had rammed the opener on the helmet and gone to the fence. Even that is tolerable in small doses. Pollard was nothing if not physical. Both need to be spoken to with a stern warning and not just a fine."

The altercation began with an exchange of words after Starc bowled a bouncer to Pollard in the 17th over of Mumbai Indians' innings against Royal Challengers Bangalore. Pollard pulled away as Starc ran in for the next delivery, but the bowler continued and bowled the ball at Pollard's body. In response, Pollard threatened to throw his bat at Starc, but it fell close to the batsman. Andy Pycroft, the match referee, fined Pollard 75% and Starc 50% of their match fees.

The bad behaviour in the match, Shastri wrote, wasn't just confined to Pollard and Starc.

"In the same game, [Yuzvendra] Chahal was also involved in a pronounced send-off to the batsman he dismissed," Shastri wrote. "It was Chahal's good luck that Yuvraj Singh was at hand to humour the offended on-field umpires. Mostly it's the bowlers who are stepping out of line.

"All the stakeholders must clamp down on such behaviour. It doesn't improve you as a cricketer much less as a human being. It's been a splendid IPL so far and it deserves better from its performers."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo