IPL 2014

D/L doesn't work in T20s - Steyn

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May 12, 2014

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Rain interrupted Delhi Daredevils 13 overs into their innings, Delhi Daredevils v Sunrisers Hyderabad, IPL 2014, Delhi, May 10, 2014
Dale Steyn - "The rules regarding rain-affected matches are the subject of ongoing discussion in IPL changing rooms" © BCCI
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Steyn speaks out on D/L method

Dale Steyn, the Sunrisers Hyderabad seamer, has become the first major player in the IPL this season to speak up about the much-debated Duckworth-Lewis method, admitting that it was an "ongoing discussion in changing rooms".

Steyn snared two wickets on Saturday to help restrict Delhi Daredevils to 143, and after a couple of rain interruptions, the Sunrisers' task was made even easier as the target was revised to 43 from five overs.

"No doubt the Daredevils would have felt hard done by the last game when the Duckworth-Lewis method gave us a five-over target of less than 50," Steyn wrote in his column for the Times of India . "The rules regarding rain-affected matches are the subject of ongoing discussion in IPL changing rooms.

"Let me skip straight to the conclusion. The way D/L is calculated at the moment, it doesn't work in T20s. But until they, or somebody else, comes up with an improved formula - or even something completely different - we have to stick with it. It's better than tossing a coin or drawing a target out of a hat."

Shastri tips Praveen for England tour

One of the few positives for Mumbai Indians during their defeat to Chennai Super Kings which all but ended their hopes of reaching the playoffs, was a spirited showing from their seamer Praveen Kumar.

Praveen, who went unsold at the IPL auction in February, was roped in by Mumbai as a replacement for the injured Zaheer Khan, and he marked his first appearance for the franchise by picking up the crucial wickets of Dwayne Smith and Brendon McCullum.

Ravi Shastri, writing for Times of India believes that an in-form Praveen warrants selection for the upcoming tour of England, where the bowler's late swing could be a potent weapon.

"This is important for Indian cricket. Praveen is excellent with his control and swing either way; notably late swing. He has the heart of a lion. His Test figures are good," Shastri wrote. "In English conditions, which are expected to be colder this year, he could form a healthy pair with state-mate and protégé, Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

"The fact that he is a genuine swing bowler is something that you must take into account as they are a breed who are getting rarer by the day and hence have to be nurtured."

Been a legspinners' tournament - Vettori

While the likes of Glenn Maxwell, Dwayne Smith and David Miller have hogged the limelight this season for their big hitting, Daniel Vettori, the Royal Challengers Bangalore head coach, struck a different note, insisting that this year had been a "legspinners' tournament".

"I think this has been a legspinner's tournament - Pravin Tambe and Rahul Tewatia today for Rajasthan Royals, Amit Mishra and Karn Sharma for Sunrisers Hyderabad, and Yuzvendra Chahal for us," Vettori told iplt20.com . "We've seen the rise of the legspinners, which is great because everyone loves watching a leggie in action. It's a really tough art to master, but when you see these guys do so well, it inspires youngsters."

"Arrogant" Pollard got away lightly - Donald

One of the biggest flashpoints of this season's IPL was the ugly altercation between Mitchell Starc and Kieron Pollard, with both players eventually admitting to a level two offence under the IPL's code of conduct.

Pollard lost 75% of his match fee, but Allan Donald, the bowling coach of the Royal Challengers, had strong words for the Mumbai allrounder, branding him "arrogant" and worthy of a bigger punishment.

"I have a fairly strong opinion about what happened the other day at the Wankhede Stadium. It's not something that should be tolerated," Donald told Mid Day . "As far as I am concerned, Pollard pulled out deliberately at the last moment and that's not acceptable. Pollard is a fairly arrogant individual. I can't stand a player who wants to throw his bat at the bowler.

"It's just not on. There's space for a bit of niggling but beyond that, I don't think these things should be allowed to take place on the field. And from the fines that were imposed, I must say that Pollard got away pretty lightly."

RCB quash Gayle injury rumours

The Royal Challengers Bangalore dismissed reports that Chris Gayle had been ruled out of the remainder of the IPL. Gayle, who was dismissed for 19 on Sunday, had missed the Royal Challengers' first few games with a back injury, and speculation was rife that he would miss the franchise's remaining games as well.

"Gayle is not ruled out and no replacement is sought," the Royal Challengers said in a statement.

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Posted by GrindAR on (May 14, 2014, 1:05 GMT)

By the way, I would request the ICC to take my method and Name it GrindAR Method to project the winner match. If the there is a tie or within 3% error margin, then the team hit most sixes at over number the match was stopped ( not the entire match or averaging to per over, because the stage of match need to be matched)

Posted by GrindAR on (May 14, 2014, 0:57 GMT)

D/L method dont even consider the lose of continuity of momentum for both batsmen at crease and the bowlers in their spells. Why the heck that is even considered? It was created to save Aussies/Eng from danger when the play interrupted on such events. If you pull the records that involve Aus or Eng with any other team... 90% of the time, the D/L method work in favor of these two teams only.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (May 13, 2014, 3:22 GMT)

Starc AND Pollard should both have beed suspended. Both are big mouthed and aggressive. Pollard should know that Aussies are always trying to get in other player's faces. They think that is how cricket is played. The rest of the world know that cricket is only played like that by persons devoid of dignity. If Pollard wants to join that gang, he must pay the price. If you are quick to take offense, the Ausies will be even quicker to offend you.

Besides, these young Ausie bowlers have big mouths, but nothing to back it up. It is easy to get them all worked up and their already weak bowling goes to the dogs. Starc is an awful death bowler - he simply gave away the game to the Royals yesterday. No need to get worked up - just hit him out of the park! That's the best reply!

Posted by Greatest_Game on (May 13, 2014, 3:09 GMT)

Why would RCB need to replace Gayle? They are not going anywhere where they need a replacement - like the playoffs, for example!

Posted by GrindAR on (May 12, 2014, 23:58 GMT)

Pollard had one moment out of his control.... people tongue curse him as arrogant human being... BTW, they have to go their elementary schools to know the difference between arrogance and aggressive.... There is not much difference... * Arrogance - Showing your response in a socially unacceptable norms (again... it is which soceity the people belong.... not the player) * Aggressive - Showing your response in a socially acceptable norms (same holds here too...)

Starc must have stopped delivering the ball when he noticed that when his run was behind the umpire.... actually that ball could have been fatally injuring the player... if you see how Pollard muddled with the delivery to avoid body contact... because the ball was aimed at the batsman who already pulled out from the pitch.... The faulty action of batsman was to wave the bat hard... as he lost control.... it would have be an instinctive action if he was injured by the delivery....

I would say, Mr. Starc need to sit out.

Posted by GrindAR on (May 12, 2014, 22:02 GMT)

D/L method is a nemesis for all forms of cricket. If anything that need to be trashed to save the integrity of the game is this very D/L method. It was a trash to start with.. and it still is the same. D/L will work only when the match is 80% complete.

A better method is, 20 minutes before the game and before the toss, the weather need to be assessed and calculate the total time the play can be possible. Then decide how many overs each team has to play. Even after that, if a surprisingly too much of weather event happen, then the formula is,

How near the completion of last innings is? * If <70%, Average non-pp run rate at the stop of the play + the pp-rr for expected end of play based on wkts deduction as per last X overs * If >70%, Scoring rate of last Y overs+ remaining PP-rr for expected end of play based on wkts deduction as per last Z overs

X - 20 for ODI, 7 for T20 Y - 10 for ODI, 5 for T20 Z - 15 for ODI, 6 for T20

Wickets calculated based on bowlers performance (SR)

Posted by TurboKat on (May 12, 2014, 19:23 GMT)

@vrm: I completely agree.

In fact, they use that idea in super overs. Only fair that they extend it to D/L in a T20 game too.

When field restrictions and bowling limits can be modified to apply for a D/L affected game, then why not the allowed number of wickets for the batting side? This makes the game more interesting for both teams with the side batting second having to re-work their batting strategy.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2014, 19:14 GMT)

How about cancelling the match & if it is a must result match then have it on a reserve day. Anything less than 20 overs per inning is a Mockery! We have had enough mockery of Cricket by the Advent of T20s.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2014, 18:55 GMT)

Minimum number of overs should be increased from 5 to 10. In an ODI, minimum number of overs reqd for a result is 20, which is 40%. So 5 overs (25%) for a T20 is just isn't enough to give the team bowling second a fair chance.

Posted by vrms on (May 12, 2014, 17:57 GMT)

A FAIR D/L METHOD :

Simple logic reasoning will make a fair D/L for rain affected matches.

When the first team goes on to bat they hope to have full 20 overs, so they set their game based on that hope. They have ten wickets on hand for 20 overs - so they have 2 overs per wicket.

When the second team goes on to mat after the interruption and say they have only five overs to bat, how fair it would be to provide them all the ten wickets for just five overs. Even if they throw away two wickets every over taking whatever risk that one could imagine, still they would have some one to bat till the end of their innings.

This is absolutely unfair to the team batting first.

The best solution would be to provide the team batting second the exact number of wickets that would be fair for their allotted five overs ie 2.5 wickets or rounded to three wickets. So if they lose more than three wickets chasing the total the first batting team should be declared winners.

Posted by UllasUK on (May 12, 2014, 16:57 GMT)

Starc's throw was really dangerous. It was fast, furious and Pollard missed it only by inches.KP is a natural aggressor and has shown his aggression. Its Starc who is starter and maintainer. No need to blame only pollard.In fact Pollard hasn't thrown his bat, he was showing the gesture and bat slipped out of his hand which was not dangerous to starc at all.

Posted by steve48 on (May 12, 2014, 16:43 GMT)

Impressive of Steyn to make this point when his side won. Undoubtedly someone smarter than me needs to find a T20 formula better suited than D/L. As for Donald, pretty strong comment, but everyone should remember Starc's delivery was not dangerously aimed, to me making Pollard wrong to react zo strongly after deliberately pulling away so late. Sure, Starc mouthed off too much, but if I was a quick, I would get frustrated at having bouncer restrictions against players who can't play them, but can hit pitched up balls out of the park with a thick edge from modern super bats! Finally, a Gayle unable to run has proved a liability to RCB, must drive Partiv Patel nuts! A commercial, not a cricket decision to have him playing when so immobile.

Posted by b4u8me2 on (May 12, 2014, 16:15 GMT)

Allan Donald could not have been more bias in his comments that he was. He puts all the blame on Pollard. Pollard was in all his rights to pull out and he did so when Starc had alot of time to realise he was pulling out. Starc however still ran up and bowled the ball directly at Pollard. So Mr. Donald you have no tolerance for batsmen who "throw" their bats at players but u have tolerance for bowlers who throw the ball at batsmen? That is a really bias stance. Pollard didnt even actually throw his bat. He gestured to do it and then let it slip out of his hand. Starc was never in any real danger. Pollard however could have easily suffered a broken ankle had that ball connect with him cause it passed closely to his foot and he was in a side on position. Starc was the instigator here, not Pollard.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2014, 16:08 GMT)

Steyn's correct. The same formula that works for 50 overs doesn't quite work for T20. As for Pollard, he should have been banned for a few matches, but so should have been Starc as well. Starc was the one who started it and to pretend that it was all Pollard's fault is nothing short of hypocrisy.

Posted by Sandeep.M.J.D on (May 12, 2014, 12:24 GMT)

I pity poor Pollard, as he was only responding to Starc and pulled out when the biwler was miles away from umpire. Starc should have been completely banned from playing IPL.

Posted by HennopsRiverEnd on (May 12, 2014, 11:16 GMT)

What's worse was Andre Russell half pull out bowling action to Shane Watson. Not in the spirit of the game.

Posted by DarrylRod on (May 12, 2014, 9:57 GMT)

D/L doesnt work period! There are so many discrepancies and the advantage in bad weather is always with the team batting first. The ICC doesnt want to act coz everything is a generated by money.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (May 12, 2014, 9:40 GMT)

Couldn't agree more with Donald on the last paragraph there. I also suspected Pollard pulled away intentionally to get back at Starc for sledging, he does it when he is bowling too. Also, in Starc's position i would have done the same and bowled the bowl at him, he is too arrogant and needed to be shown that others won't back down just because your a big fella.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2014, 9:38 GMT)

@legsidewide: You also need to think about the people who paid to watch.

Posted by applethief on (May 12, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

Steyn's not wrong. Better off if they just call T20s a draw, matters less in a tournament like this

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