Netherlands v Bangladesh, 2nd T20, The Hague

Last man secures last-ball Dutch win

ESPNcricinfo staff

July 26, 2012

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Netherlands 131 for 9 (Swart 61, Razzak 2-23) beat Bangladesh 128 (Tamim 50, van der Gugten 3-18)

Michael Swart scored 61 in Netherlands' one-run victory, Netherlands v Bangladesh, 2nd Twenty20, The Hague, July 26, 2012
Michael Swart scored a half-century in Netherlands' thrilling win © Daan Rhijnsburger

Netherlands snatched a tense one-wicket victory over Bangladesh to tie the T20I series 1-1, as No. 11 Ahsan Malik hit the last ball of the match - and the first delivery he had faced - for four.

Ahsan Malik came to the wicket with Netherlands needing two for victory, after Abdur Razzak had removed Timm van der Gugten, who had just hit six, with the penultimate ball. The tailender coolly cut Razzak behind point to condemn Bangladesh to a second defeat to an Associate nation in the last three days.

Opener Michael Swart had guided the Netherlands chase but when he fell for 61 from 49 balls, to leave his side 112 for 7, still 17 short of victory with 13 balls to go, it looked like the hosts would fail. Two runs and three balls later they were eight down and come the final over, ten runs were still required. Razzak had only conceded 11 from his previous three but van der Gugten's blow over mid-off was decisive, even though he fell lbw to the next delivery.

Bangladesh succumbed despite winning the toss and choosing to bat, with Tamim Iqbal scoring his second successive T20 international fifty. Mahmudullah was one of the few batsmen to score fluently, adding 41 from 31 balls in a 62-run partnership with Tamim, but Ziaur Rahman was the only other Bangladeshi to reach double figures.

Van der Gugten preceded his intervention with the bat by taking three wickets, as Bangladesh lost their last five batsmen for eight runs off ten balls. Swart and Mudassar Bukhari also claimed two wickets apiece.

Though Bangladesh took wickets at regular intervals and none of the bowlers conceded more than seven runs an over, Netherlands judged their chase to perfection ... just.

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Posted by   on (July 29, 2012, 0:43 GMT)

From my point of view What happened at Netherlands was a difficulty to read the pitch and condition, lack of idea about Scotland and Dutch team beside Ireland. We have to understand, This tour was not planned before and when Bangladesh went to Ireland they played some practice matches to cope with the situations. but in Dutch, it was not like that.. also we have to understand that it is a T20 format any thing can happen. played 6 won 4 defeat 2 ...even last match was not scheduled before. same pitch used for the last game and Bangladesh team also changed little bit for giving match practice to other players..

Posted by Fahii on (July 28, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

feels like its BANG VS IND.........n almost neutral......why indian fans r so much happy feel like ind won?

as far bang concerned, their team have no sportsmanship spirit, they have not quality players who could make a test playing nation.they need talent hunting policies in their own country

Posted by reede on (July 28, 2012, 19:52 GMT)

its a heart broken result for bangladeshis. we never expected like this result from bangladesh cricket team .

Posted by EnglishCricket on (July 28, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

@superstar100 - You do make a very fair comment and that ZIM-BAN Series was suppose to happen this August but got postponed till next year because Zimbabwe Board cannot finance it which is the Bangladesh Board arranged these matches in Europe since they didn't have much Cricket in 2012.

Posted by superstar100 on (July 28, 2012, 15:34 GMT)

Bd fans always talk about world cup win and asia cup win if any indian comment on there teams performance guyss r so funny your team wins a match in 2007 than 2012 almost 5year gap means in around 10 years you win only 2 games Lol ... only sakib is gud player in your team when he dont fire your team loss .. i wana see atleast 1 test series of 2or 3 matches between BD and ZIM lets see who deserves the test playing status so than BD can prove itself and make us wrong !!!

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

@sameer111111...I don't think losing by 1 WICKET LAST BALL AWAY is a pathetic loss am I right? Exactly! I admit Bangladesh batted pathetically but you have to be aware of the fact that almost half these so called 'Dutch' players were not 100% Dutch. The ICC allowed Bangladesh to play Test Cricket a dead game really and really no choice if you think about it I mean without Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, it means only 8 countries out of more than 200 play the format lol and its would a bit silly having a ranking system when a few play it lol no wonder 'most' of the World dislike Cricket :)

Posted by Empire-Of-Cricket on (July 28, 2012, 14:12 GMT)

Its better to prepare for Test Cricket rather than T20...

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

@Anwar Chowdhury...Forget Bangladesh my brother, it will be even more cool and hilarious if Afghanistan knock out India is their Group A encounter which I can't wait to see. Everyone knows India are afraid to play the lower ranked teams which is why disrespectfully, they don't even invite Bangladesh for a full tour even though the BCB President kindly asked the BCCI President. India knows that Bangladesh win in India will not only be embarrassing but will lose a lot of money which they only seem to care about rather than the great game itself :)

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

Since you're so happy Shakib went out for a Duck hmm haven't you seen his bowling figures for the match? Exactly! bowled 4 overs picked up 2 WICKETS at an economy rate of 7 an over which by Cricketing analysts is termed as "very good" so Shakib is just justifying why he's such a good All-Rounder and besides even other great players in T20s like Pieterson, Ab De Villiers, JP Duminy, Dhoni, Gambhir etc etc have gone for Ducks so again DOUBLE STANDARDS no case :)))))

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

How come all these people are interested in our Bangladeshi cricket team than their own cricket teams? Might be that even if we win or lose,we are the most exciting prospect for the future of cricketing world and that irritates some people.

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

bangladesh rules and thats the truth!the whole truth.

Posted by sameer111111 on (July 28, 2012, 11:23 GMT)

Another pathetic loss. Seriously, who allowed them to play test cricket?

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 11:06 GMT)

@IndiaRulesEverybody...Dude we're not the ones that label Shakib as one of the top All-Rounders in the World the ICC does and don't tell me you know better than the ICC? Exactly! so that silly excuse of yours about Shakib is totally invalid but I admit you're right about Bangladesh massive problem in Test Cricket even Shakib himself stated that they will still continue to struggle and I agree as well but there are reasons why Bangladesh have problems in that format number 1, they're have limited fast bowlers and unless they don't sort that out they Bangladesh will struggle even against Zimbabwe and number 2 Bangladesh barely even play Test matches in fact they haven't played 1 this year so I don't understand what your problem is. Let let me remind you India had full membership status in 1926 whereas Bangladesh in 2000 so do the maths and yes of course India Cricket is still by far better than Bangladesh but whether you like it or not Bangladesh are coming of ages and here to stay :)

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 10:27 GMT)

Don't worry Indian fans & haters of BD cricket, BD will knock you out from the T20 world cup as well, like the World Cup & Asia Cup! Just wait & see.

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 10:08 GMT)

All the Indian fans are very much enthusiast on commenting any news of BD cricket, the numbers of comments are even higher than the Indian cricket news, well this is very encouraging news for BD cricket, so now BD team is popular even than India! So thanks to all the Indian fans! I think this number of comments will cross thousands when BD will knock India out from the T20 world cup, like the World Cup & Asia Cup! So cheers the Indian fans and be ready with yr lovely comments! ha ha ha ha

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 9:49 GMT)

Hey, the Indians fans & the haters of BD cricket, come on, see that the India is currently @ the 7-8 th position with W. Indies in the T-20 rankings. But u see Bangladesh is not far behind of them, they are currently on 9th position! BD's target is not a big, just to go up one position. Don't worry after the world cup BD will snatch that position from u.....ha ha ha ha

Posted by r0ketman on (July 28, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

@associatecricketfollower: Do you know how many of those matches India or NZ drew were 3 days matches? Please look up scorecards of Indian test matches between 1932 and 1952. Almost all the matches played before 1952 were 3 days matches. It is easy to draw a match that only lasts 3 days. Even a lot of those 3 day matches India lost by an Inning. Please please do some more research!:-)

Posted by r0ketman on (July 28, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

@IndiaRulesEverybody: Well Shakib did better than Dinda did against BD in Asia cup. Dinda is India's "best" fast bowler. I didn't say it, Shourav Ganguly did! So What does it say when India's best fast bowler goes 0 for 38 in 5.2 overs. He was taken for 18 runs in an over in that match! Do you want to know who hit him out of the park for 17 of those runs in 5 balls? You want to take a guess? The number 1 all rounder in the World, Shakib Al Hasan! And don't forget Shakib only gave up 8 runs in the last over of IPL final , while India's captain was on the crease, including the wicket of Suresh Raina, another Indian starter. Shakib also took the wickets of SRT, Darvid and Ganguly, 3 of the best batsmen India ever produced in IPL 2012. Shakib is certainly better than any all rounders India has. Oh wait a minute, India does not have an all rounder worth mentioning (Yuvraj aside, who is not playing currently)

Posted by India_One_Rupee_Country on (July 28, 2012, 3:45 GMT)


Posted by dulabari on (July 28, 2012, 3:34 GMT)

Bangladesh is half of a state of pre-1947 India. Even then they are able to beat the combined Indian team occasionally. If BD plays any Indian state individually, it will win any day.

Posted by rinkz27 on (July 28, 2012, 2:24 GMT)

Lets follow the same logic that is being used against Bangladesh. Let us strip India of its test/ODI status, judging from the heavy and pathetic loss they suffered during the second ODI against Sri Lanka. World Champions? what a laugh. The country with the biggest cricket budget in the world cannot even beat "lowly" Bangladesh (Asia Cup) and loses to Sri Lanka by eight wickets (the "mighty" Indian team could only manage 138 runs in a 50 over match). what a joke... -

Posted by Htc-Android on (July 28, 2012, 1:42 GMT)

@Ahmed hussain you mentioned abt india took 22 years and new zealand took 35 years to win test matches. you are right. but do you know new zealand played only 43 test matches over these 35 years and india played only 23 matches over these 22 years. Also check howmany test matches they had drawn in those days.whereas bangladesh played 73 matches over these 12 years and lost 63 of them. Plus bangladesh played more cricket than india or new zealand played in those days. Also tell me howmany test matches bangladesh drawn in their history? its not abt winning matches, if they cant win a test match they can look for a draw. Also tell me which test playing nation has lost 63 test matches out of 73 test matches they played? I do agree bangladesh have shown some improvements over the past few years in ODIs. But they need some serious improvements in test matches. Also please dont campare any top teams test match record with bangladesh, they still have better record than you.

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 1:05 GMT)

Bangladesh is a good thing for cricket, dont worry. Nothing brings south asia closer than to crack an odd Bangadesh joke.

Posted by   on (July 28, 2012, 0:04 GMT)

@IndiaRulesEverybody...Yes you're definitely right that Shakib is indeed one of the "Best All-Rounders in the World" today I mean 25 years old and already in all forms scored well over 5000 runs and almost 300 wickets proves why he's rated so highly. Infact he's not even in his peak yet and in the next 3-4 years, you will see why he's a top All-Rounder. India have their young promising 'All-Rounder' Jadeja lol should be lucky he's sooo talented ha :)))

Posted by 101010101010 on (July 27, 2012, 23:54 GMT) your backside from perera then come here...

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 23:51 GMT)

@IndiaRulesEverybody...Its good to see Indians like you jealous of our Shakib and don't forget this is T20 you know big shots, luck & risks not ODIs or something. We know Bangladesh are a lower ranked team but we don't care, all we care about is the fact that Bangladesh have improved and are emerging. I can remember in IPL final where Narine who is a top fine bowler going for 4 overs for 37 runs 0 wickets against CSK so don't use DOUBLE STANDARDS. You want more examples of what T20 is like? Thought So! oh yeah by the way, the last time India met Bangladesh in Cricket, Bangladesh ruled India have a wonderful day :)

Posted by IndiaRulesEverybody on (July 27, 2012, 23:27 GMT)

Netherlands and Scotland have just asked for more matches with Bangladesh! They say they want to improve their rankings! :)) Shaking Al Hassan - "The No.1 All Rounder of the World" out for a duck and then when needed to bowl in the death gave away 15 runs! What a performance! But by BD standards a duck and 15 runs an over is actually good!!

Posted by Afridynamite on (July 27, 2012, 23:23 GMT)

Now Afghanistan will overtake Bangladesh in T20 rankings

Posted by G-Rocker on (July 27, 2012, 23:09 GMT)

@Raj2506...that's why India was beaten by BD... :P

Posted by borhans on (July 27, 2012, 22:22 GMT)

Indians & other bangaldeshi haters should realize that it takes time to create good palyers & it take more time to come real talents,match winners .its only 12 year since Bangladesh got test status .sakib ,tamim are the result of those 12 years .If BD didn't get any test status then no young boy would like to pursue their career in cricket in Bangladeshs .So those Indians or others should answer how long after their team played their first int match they got a real talented player or match winner .It take india for more than 70 year to have a team to win world cup to have capil dev,sunil gavasker like player & add more years to have player like tendulkar .So in a billion population country India needed so many years ,so why they are so intolerant to give Bangldersh more time .

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 22:18 GMT)

@Raj2506...hahaha...I wonder why you're office team didn't compete at the Asia Cup? Oh wait I forgot, because they would've got thrashed by Bangladesh just like India. I think your office team can beat India by 10 wickets :)

Posted by Raj2506 on (July 27, 2012, 21:43 GMT)

My office team is much better than Bangladesh national team

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 21:21 GMT)

@serious-am-i...First of all what's wrong with these comparisons? They're all facts and if it really bothers you then there's nothing I can do. Though Bangladesh of course has its very bad history in Cricket but that's understandable because they were very new to Cricket but so did other teams like India and New Zealand so don't deliberately try to single out Bangladesh Cricket unfairly because its always double standards from people like you. Yes we have 12 years of experience of ODIs but tell me is that anything close to where teams like India, England etc had well over 40 years of ODI experience? Exactly plus does Bangladesh play anywhere close in the amount of matches as compared to these teams? Exactly! So please don't show ignorance but you're definitely right about Bangladesh be given Test status prematurely but its too late now and have to live with it besides, both Bangladesh and Zimbabwe barely even play Test Cricket and are just there to fill up the ranks so no worries.

Posted by Htc-Android on (July 27, 2012, 20:37 GMT)

@reyme. I am sorry mate you are wrong. not most of the players are in the current team. Only roach and sammy are in the current team. during that time these two are innexperienced players. they only became permenant members aftr they impressed in this tour. others i cant even see them in the west indies A team. so please dont give wrong facts.:)

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 20:17 GMT)

Bangladesh returned to his default position in ICC t20 ranking.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

Could've gone either way, the Dutch were lucky to nick this.

Posted by Raiyan24r on (July 27, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

everyone saying that bd won 4 out of 6 which could also be 2.but saying that, bd could have also won all 6.upset, not actually.the players in bd don't play t20 that much. the most experience d t20 player in bd is shakib and ashraful. the bpl was the debut t20 game for a lot of good odi and tests player. whereas ned, ire,scot,etc are much more experienced in t20 as they play a lot of county.from out of the ranking bd have come to 9th. so pls pick the positives.

Posted by reyme on (July 27, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

@streetblader: You comments are hilarious! No Test ingredients? Just so that you know, Shakib Al Hasan has been number One Ranked Test Player for most of the last 2-3 years, until last week when Kallis took over, and that also due to lack of matches for Shakib. Shakib and Tamim Won Wisden Player of the Year during the last 2 years for their outstanding Test Performance against England, New Zealand, and West Indies. Dont forget BD whitewashed West Indies in Test in West Indies 2 years ago and most of the players in that team are still part of current WI Team including their captain Sammy.

Posted by samincolumbia on (July 27, 2012, 17:10 GMT)

Bangladesh fans still feel they are on top of the world after winning couple of last ballT20 games against non test playing nations, while the rankings indicate that they are at the bottom!! India are the world champs. Bangla fans should worry more about ICC removing their undeserving test status than worry about India.

Posted by fr600 on (July 27, 2012, 16:26 GMT)

Few years back, nobody even talked about Bangladesh. Now, people compare Bangladesh with India. It would be funny to see what they have to say in like 4-5 years. As far as I can see, Bangladesh has produced more match winners in last one year compared to the last decade. To me, BD future looks good, but I'm sorry to say, for India, it looks equally bad. Ireland will improve too, but they really need to improve their infrastructure if they'd like to join the top ones.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 16:14 GMT)

Bangladesh, why you no win any major tournament?? :p 73 test matches, 3 wins. what kind of a pathetic record is that?

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

Dear guys ,yes it is true India din reach the finals between 1983- 2003 but they did reach d next stages of every world cup post 1983 except 1992 when it was a Round- Robin method that was used .. India reached d semis in 1987 , 1996 ,etc .. Tell me any other side that had reached d next stage of every tourney these 2 decades ? ?Forget the odds .. Odds dont make matches ..Windies were unbeatables during d 70's n 80's n to win the side that had won 2 world cups in a row - u do need a lot of confidence n that showed in d way India won was nt a fluke win considering India had already beat WI in the group stage once then..

Winning a few games does not make a team the best . Bangladesh has been playing lot of t-20's n that too with Associate nations n not the 8 top test sides.India has not played a t-20 for atleast 6 months whereas Bangladesh have already played Zimbabwe , Ireland over 2 series .. Bangladesh have been improving - showed in the Asia Cup- but too early to consider them best

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

IPL teams should consider about including some assossiate talents like Berrington and swart in their squad...this will be a low coast asset for their squad rather than some highly coasted flopsters which currently most of the teams having.....and for the assossiate players too it will be a good experience to share such an exp dressing room to establish themself as perfect t20 players

Posted by Htc-Android on (July 27, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

some of the fans mentioned abt england innings against south africa and the 3-0 whiteash against pakistan and indias 8-0 whitewash in abroad. you guys should understand every team has ups and down in their game. tomorow if South loses a test match by an innigns you guys will come and say " oh south africa lost a test match, why not us?" that makes no sense at all. Yes england and india lost some test matches but they have been always consistent at home( except for 1 or 2 series.) If you look at bangladesh record after playing 73 test matches they lost 63. Its ok if you cant win test matches, at this level you should be able to draw some test matches.Even at home you guys are unable to draw test matches (except for one or two but mostly they lost it). So why blaming others?

Posted by serious-am-i on (July 27, 2012, 13:48 GMT)

@Ahmed Hussain: again you bragging about comparisons with India is really surprising me. India were one of the first teams to play ODI but remember ODI's were a baby over then & it wasn't easy for the players who were used to defensive techniques to start attacking all of a sudden. You have 12 years experience in ODI's as well, you do not have even half the winning percentage of what India achieved in the same duration.If honestly you wish to compare, compare it with Zimbabwe, they were a minnow like BD for a long time & got their test status very late unlike BD who were prematurely given test status but when they attained test status they started winning matches, drawing matches & if they lost, usually they went down fighting. Its because ICC had made an mistake of prematurely allotting test status to BD, they are worried about giving test status to other teams. Other teams here directly means to Ireland as the top contender. Anyways stop this comparison and try to improve BD cricket

Posted by r0ketman on (July 27, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

@ani: India's win in 1983 was the biggest fluke in cricket history. India won 1 match (against east africa, not south by the way) in the prior 2 world cups. They were a 66 to 1 odd of winning the cup (that in and of itself is a textbook definition of a fluke). The fact that they were unable to reach the finals of the WC for another 20 years proves that the results in 1983 was a fluke. In 1987 and 1996 WC was played in the subcontinent, yet IND FAILED to reach the finals.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

@FUNKY ANDY first get your facts right.. Bangladesh is one of the richest cricket board in the world.BD dont need ICC money... this europe tour was not on FTP.BCB arranged and sponsered the tour.BCB spend around a million dollar on this tour.LAST MONTH RSA-ZIM-BAN tri series was also sponsored by a Bangladeshi company...and even Bangladesh has his own premire t20 leauge.

Posted by hulk777 on (July 27, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

I am sorry to say this. But I will be very surprised if Bangladesh wins any tournament that is featuring Good test playing nations.

Posted by RandyOZ on (July 27, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

Don't worry Bangladesh, England couldn't beat them either. ALthough their test status is also equally as shaky as yours.

Posted by borhans on (July 27, 2012, 11:38 GMT)

when India getting white wash in Europe then Bangladesh doing better than them in Europe.Even they are doing great in those unknown ,not world class pitches

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

@Alex Hose...Please READ PROPERLY, I wasn't comparing England and South Africa to Ireland and Bangladesh, I was just refuting to someone that said that England are consistent when clearly they're not. I just want to remind everyone again that Bangladesh lost to Netherlands just you know 1 WICKET LAST BALL but I will admit Bangladesh batting was a disgrace but that match winning knock from the Netherlands was 100% Australian if you do your research but England who are obviously better than Bangladesh Cricket lost to Netherlands IN England even worse so some of you guys are either acting ignorant and contradicting and have no reasonable justification to backup your claim :)

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 11:20 GMT)

@funkyandy...That's a silly argument you made, just look at India's population a country that is a big fan of Cricket and yet cannot produce decent fast bowlers and still lose a lot of matches with the most recent one against Sri Lanka which has a very small population plus all that resources :)

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

@ani...Excuse me but you're deliberately skipping the main point, ODIs didn't exist till about the 70s but India first achieved Full Membership status in 1926 so you were skipping more than 4 decades worth of Cricketing History and India's record at the beginning was just as pathetic :)

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 10:35 GMT)

Dear Bangla brothers..its true that there are some Indian fans who like to provoke you guys.. and in reply its obvious to bring the result of last year Eng and Aus nt only Bangladesh bt even Sri Lankan fans and Pakistani fans love to do do you guys know that SL so far played 10 series against AUS and lost 9 of them which also include a 3-0 whitewash in home 2004, the same Aus team managed to drew the series agnst India in far as Pak is concern,alwys boasted with a subline pace attack, after the series win in 1994 lost 6 series in a row and 5 of them are whitewash and finaly managed to drew one in 2010. India aftr the 3-0 defeat in 1999 won 3 lost 3 and drew 1 and not to forgt Ind also whitewashed Aus in 2010. So,guys if a team wid old warriors lost the war doesnt means that it will nt stand again..n remebr getting a numbr 4 rank doesnt make you one..all d best

Posted by ani. on (July 27, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

@Ahmed Hussain .. Bangladesh has played 262 Odis and check win loss percentage 27%... where was after 263 odi matches india has won nearly 49% (121w 130L) their matches including WC win and W championship series win in Australia .. srilanka % in 40's in same amount matches pls stop this comparison now. Bangladesh is improving slowly but not reached level of India, srilanka and pakistan

Posted by ani. on (July 27, 2012, 10:00 GMT)

Bangladesh fan pls stop giving these examples of India losing a odi to srilanka in 1979 or Pakistan losing to ireland in wc .. India has won World Cup in 1983 in england ..only 2nd team after west indies to win a World cup trophy. India has beaten red hot west indies twice in that series.pakistan has won against big teams in early part of odis. and in test matches India has won their 1st test after 12 losses. don't compare years ..Ind only played few tests before 50's also both India & pak played as same team before independence...check with match experience .. so far Bangladesh played 73 test lost 63 ..after 73 tests India lost 29 .... Bangladesh is impoving but don't make harsh comments on other teams

Posted by streetblader on (July 27, 2012, 9:58 GMT)

seriously bangladesh team is a shame in the name of a "test playing nation".. there is nothing, not one attribute in this team that makes it worty of a test status... shame on ICC...

Posted by funkyandy on (July 27, 2012, 9:46 GMT)

Bangladesh's performances have been a disgrace. Ban receives 10 times the funding that any Associate country gets, from the ICC. They have literally millions more cricket fans and players than Scot, Ire or Neths, yet have only won 2 of their 6 matches convincingly - 2 of the games against Ire could have been won by the home team. And (heaven forbid) if Shakib got a major injury, they'd be on a par with the top Associate teams. For all the money invested by ICC, and the level of enthusiasm for cricket in Bangladesh, they are a constant disappointment.

Posted by DINESHCC on (July 27, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

IMTEAZ TISHAD: I agree with you. Definitely BD is an improved cricket team. But your fans claim of BD is superior among Asian teams is wrong. Beating India and SL in Asia cup that too in their own backyard doesn't mean that they are better prospects. On that day they played better cricket. Thats all.

Posted by streetblader on (July 27, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

bangladesh ranked 9th? OMG... how are you feeling now poor bd fans?

Posted by TheReverseDoosra_K on (July 27, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

@Graemo Ov Tablus - You've mixed the Dutch player facts - These are status - Seelaar,De Grooth,Gruijters,Heggelman (Dutch born Dutch descent), Jamil (Dutch born foreign descent), Szwarczynski,Kervezee,Bukhari (foreign born but played for Dutch under-age levels), Borren,Barresi,Bashir (foreign born, played in foreign domestic competitions but served the four year qualification period and permanent Dutch residents), Van Der Gugten, Swart, Cooper (play due to Dutch parents or grandparents), Ten Doeschate and Myburgh (are Dutch Afrikaaners, play due to such ancestry, that their about 11th generation predecesor was born in Holland). They could not go to level of Scotland and Ireland that's why they started poaching players from OZ and RSA of Dutch ancestry. Which unfair to teams like Uganda,Nepal,PNG and KEnya who mainly cannot import players. I hope the Dutch can form a good team in the upcoming years comprsing mainly of the Dutch-born Dutch descent players coz it is not good for long-run

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

@ superstar100 I agree with you. BD are good but not excellent enough to compare themself with Pakistan, India, SL and all of them.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

Bangladesh is the best associate team! they could gain test status very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 9:28 GMT)


Posted by Sadequl on (July 27, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

If we say BD played exceptionally well in the Europe tour, then that would be surely a wrong thing to say rather we can call it a marginal performance all in. Many times we have seen most of the times BD batsman are not upto the mark when team needed them mostly & few times we see mini collapses too in bating line up. Similarly in this tour they lost two matches [1 to Scotland & 1 to Netherlands] & in both matches only three batsman were being able to stand on double figures & rest all are no where near to their own performance or ability. Hope new coach can look up & work out to avoid this weakness in BD bating line up to fight back & to assist them to reach in top levels.

Posted by SCC08 on (July 27, 2012, 9:16 GMT)

@Ajithkumar Chandramouli - "Bangladesh firepower"?? LOL

Posted by SCC08 on (July 27, 2012, 9:14 GMT)

LOL - great game Banglasdesh!!! Haha.. What happened to your world beating 4th ranked side? SO funny.... How many more opportunities do you think your side deserves... Offer nothing but practise to other teams. your ranking makes a mockery of the system.

Posted by superstar100 on (July 27, 2012, 8:54 GMT)

lol i have seen BD on 4 rank last week and lot of bangladeshi were happy and making fun of PAK , IND, AUS , WEST I, NZL, that they are good than all 5 teams i have no words for BD's fan but i hav a question how r u felling ???

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 8:53 GMT)

bangladesh is the weakest test team in the history of world cricket....but if they were an associate they could be the next contender for a test status.....

Posted by Rafelgibt on (July 27, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

Congrats to NETH.......Anti BAN supporters must be very happy that BAN lied into 9th position......LOL......Come on its just T20…….And we all know that anything can happen in T20………In this Europe tour BAN played 6 matches , WIN 4 and Loss 2………..Not bad at all………Because as a die hard BAN Supporter i still believe that T20 is our game at all.....If this stats would have been in ODIs then I must have been very disappointed…………Associate teams played really well.......Congrats to them....But we must have to remember that Its T20 and they have to play more ODIs to prove them strong contenders for international level.....I hope most people are going to admit that ODI cricket is far more tough than T20.......Congratulations to BAN TIGERS……They proved that they can still win in the foreign alien conditions......Roar TIGERS Roar>>>>>>

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

Being an Indian fan I would like to congratulate Netherlands. Well done guys ! (I'm NOT against BD, so BD fans don't take it to heart as we all know ur team has improved a lot, and also urge to all BD fans to appreciate Dutch's efforts) Dutch bowlers really bowled well and restricted BD to a average total and then batsmen did the job (somehow). Good going ! Looking forward to next match's RESULT (if any). Best of luck to both teams.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 6:53 GMT)

@ aaamsaasza - truely well said @Ahmed Hussain - you have a rare talent for producing truely twisted logic...on what planet can u compare ENG vs SA with BD vs IRE...the teams are light years apart...theres just no way u can compare a test nation being beaten by IRE with a test nation being beaten by of those teams is quite a bit better than the other. ENG have had an illustrious test history, sure they've had there ups and downs but they have produced some of the true greats in test history and beaten all other test nations MANY times over a long period. Its just insanity to call a team inconsistent (especially across ALL era's) beacuse they havent won every game over there entire history. They've had lean periods but all the established teams what does that mean???? there are NO good teams anywhere??? lol i dont think so. For someone thats quick to judge other peoples logic, perhaps you should evaluate your own!!

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 6:51 GMT)

where were those people... when BD beat WI and RSA(unofficial) in T20 this year, All out WI within 60 runs this year IN ODI,beat srilanka,INDIA in asia cup...IF these are not sign of improvement!!!then what is?

Posted by anver777 on (July 27, 2012, 6:47 GMT)

Good final blow by 22year old Ahsan Malik Jalil.... but as mentioned here the turning point was that decisive six in the last over by Van der Gugten !!!!!

Posted by Super_Alvi on (July 27, 2012, 6:34 GMT)

@thekaxk we'll see, whos' the champion, indian! Bangladesh gotta be!

Posted by shizam on (July 27, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

Its time ICC consider BD full time status and bring the down to earth. I think Ireland is a much better team than BD and should be given a chance.

Posted by zhaldev on (July 27, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

I think instead of criticism teams like BD,IRE,NETH,SCOT should be encouraged and supported,we need new to teams to rise and take the game to the world. and please BD fanboys don't start comparing BD to IND.You are a rising team and we appreciate that but comparison on one or two performances doesn't make u better team and IND a lesser one.u still have to do lot of catch up....

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 5:56 GMT)

We should not criticize BD, as they did good thing by touring Europe and gave chances to the associates to play against full member. Their fans need to understand that by just performing well in Asia Cup, their team did not become strong suddenly. It is a process and it will take time. Btw, t20s can be anybody's game and there is no huge difference when u play t20. Be it strong team or weaker one. ICC should arrange more t20 matches for stronger associate's with lower ranked full embers.

Posted by   on (July 27, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

Bangladesh did well if you consider the fact that no full member played at this stadium. Many Indians undermine scotland-Netherlands, which is not right. They are good teams, too.

Posted by aaamsaasza on (July 27, 2012, 4:33 GMT)

Problem with BD cricketers and/or fans is that they don't see the reality. Not many BD fans are aware that after getting to the 4th position on T20 ranking, next 3 games even if their team was victorious would still bring them back to where they are right now. BD fans must understand and before comparing their team with the powerhouses of cricket, winning one or two games does not bring them even close to the shadows of those teams. Reality is that BD has completed 12 years as a full ICC member and their is absolutely nothing to write about their progress. 63 losses out of 73 tests (only 3 wins), very very dismal one day and T20 record against full ICC members. Zimbabwe stayed away from test cricket for couple of years and when they came back...they beat BD very easily. Even with a rare 4-0 whitewash in ODIs against New Zealand, BD managed only 5 victories out of 21 games against them. Conclusion - BD belongs to Associate group because BD is very good against associate members

Posted by Htc-Android on (July 27, 2012, 4:17 GMT)

some fans are blaming on England losing to netherlands in the t20 worldcup and india losing to sri lanka in 1979. alright i want clarify one thing for you. yes top teams do lose to associate teams and they will lose again in the future as well. these are called upsets and its just a one off game and its part of the game of cricket. Losing to an associate team once in a while doesnt mean they are bad team. but losing to associate teams in back to back matches cannot be acceptable. Also this is not the first time bangladesh did this. They did the same in 2010 as well( against netherlands and ireland). Also check their record in the past 12 years against associate in all formats( netherlands-2, ireland-3,scotland-1,canada-1, kenya-1). now tell me which top team has lost this many times against asscociate teams in 12 years. may be you will find 1 or 2 not this many.

Posted by tfjones1978 on (July 27, 2012, 3:48 GMT)

@Meety I agree that tv viewership might go down if countries loose, however I hope that the ICC moves towards equality in cricket not viewership. In 2007, Bangladesh and Ireland got through based on upsets. Whilst the next stage was more predictable, I believe the problem layed with the next stage (8 teams) and not how it was done. I believe that qualifiers were 16 teams play for 6 or 8 positions will make things more interesting. Also, a way to resolve the problem of wash outs against minnows would be to have a seeding system where if a match is washed out and cannot be rescheduled (within reason) that the ICC awards the match to the higher seeded team. However if the qualifiers occur over a two year period (during FTP tours) then teams should have an opportunity to reschedule washed out matches, which means all matches are resolved by merit and not by weather. Lets hope that the ICC brings in a system that is fair for all countries, not just the elite few.

Posted by Copernicus on (July 27, 2012, 3:32 GMT)

If anything, this series has shown where Bangladesh truly belong - with the other Associates. Yes, they came out of it with a 4-2 record, but of the 6 matches, 3 were won off the last ball or by one run; those were 2-1 to Bangladesh. Of the comfortable victories in the other three, it also ended 2-1 to Bangladesh. So yes, currently they are slightly better than Ireland, Scotland and the Dutch, but really, after 10+ years of Test cricket and the funding that entails, shouldn't they be further ahead? It just strengthens Ireland's case to be given a chance, as they could not do any worse than Bangladesh.

Posted by Akshaythekaxk on (July 27, 2012, 2:46 GMT)

BD fans make references for India's whitwash, like they would have trashed Eng and Aus themselves! Yes BD is rising nation, but plesae do not compare yourself with India, or your BPL with the IPL. even in t20 WC if BD qualifies for super 8, the BD fans would think that their team is best in the world!

Posted by Chris_P on (July 27, 2012, 0:56 GMT)

@meety. Agree about fc cricket in BD. The problem is that the structure is poorly set up with no emphasis on patience in run accumulation. This is the brick wall coaches are finding when going there, there is a greater expectation on the success of T20 & ODI & therefore the player mentality is geared for this. The current fc structure in BD is their biggest hurdle they need to overcome in order to be competitive in tests. They will, despite these blips, continue to perform well on the world stage in T20's & ODI's as raw talent is there. Having been there & seen a couple of fc games, I am afraid the Sydney first grade standard can match them overall. There is genuine talent there, but it is not being harnessed for first class temperament. To be realistically blunt, ongoing test status is only going to bloat averages of opposing batsmen & bowlers. There has been almost no difference in their form since their test status. T20 is their obvious goal, & they can compete on the world stage.

Posted by criclover_at_cricinfo on (July 27, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

Come on guys it's a no brainer, BD got a premature test status, they were not even ready to play one dayers, team who can't consistently pay 50 overs, defeat margins have been extraordinary, there is no technique shown by batsman, no variety in bowling, but still their attitudes are sky high, comparison with teams like australia, England, Pakistan, sirilanka, south Africa is unrealistic and I believe one of the reason for their debacle, like Zimbabwe I would like to see BD out of test playing nations and help them improve until they become really capable of competing at this level.

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 27, 2012, 0:04 GMT)

@ Meety. Cricinfo for some strange reason is not posting all my comments. I always say that Bang r improving but just as u say, they take steps backward for watever reason. Yes they r new, only 12 yrs in but the truth is Zim who r regrouping hav shown a greater RATE of improvement despite all their probs and at this current rate may soon overtake Bang. Ire n Afgh without all the ICC funding n backing n international experience r very soon too good to be playing in Associate tourneys, n from my observations r improving @ a faster rate than Bang. They r better than Bang were 12 yrs ago and still ICC won't giv them full status n they shud have been given it within the next 3-4 yrs. I believe based on current trends that if given the support n exposure, IRe n Afgh can match or even surpass Bang very soon, the same way Sri Lanka n the old Zim surpassed n matched bigger teams like Ind in ODI's in the 90's. They seemed to hav improved much faster than Bang have when they were admitted.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 23:59 GMT)

First Losing to Zimbabwe last month, then Lost to Scotland two days ago now lost to Even Holland..Barely escaped losing to Ireland in 2 games...I dnt see any improvement honestly..Still a long way to go for BD cricket..BD shud play more with associates cuz more tight games and entertaining..really surprising..BD result is not an accident, its FACT where they really stand!!

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 23:56 GMT)

For the first time in History, a Full Member has played Associate Teams away 6 times on the trot and this team Bangladesh came out overall 4-2 winners. Maybe teams like India, England, Pakistan etc should do this so we see the real difference between Full Members and Associates. The fact of the matter is guys that Bangladesh had guts to do this and the bigger teams didn't and probably never will because they don't want to get embarrassed even though it could've resulted in a 6-0 loss for these teams and Bangladesh so a decent tour Bangladesh in completely different conditions but still improvements needs to be made and sort out those silly mistakes all the best!

Posted by Meety on (July 26, 2012, 23:49 GMT)

@tfjones1978 - in terms of T20s - I fully agree with you. I believe the IOC is interested in having cricket as an Olympic sport, & T20 cricket would be the ideal format. So I would look to the next T20 W/Cup (2014?) as a chance to have a minimum 16 teams - & after that, increase the numbers. In a 16 team W/Cup - where there is 4 pools of 4, it means minnows would get to play 3 games, with at least one of thos games against "beatable" opposition comparable to their own abilities. The problem will be like with the 2007 ODI W/Cup, should India lose to a minnow & fail to progress, TV viewership will drop by about 90%!

Posted by Meety on (July 26, 2012, 23:41 GMT)

@_NEUTRAL_Fan_ - the reality is Bangladesh are improving (although "blips" against Scotland & Netherlands are typical of their 3 steps fwd, 2 steps back transistion). I would say England losing to the Netherlands is far more embarrassing than Bangladesh losing to them. I also say that Oz losing to Zimbabwe in the 1st T20 w/cup was embarrassing too, (for that matter Oz losing to Zim in the 83 W/Cup - yrs before Zim had test status). Bangladesh are theoretically within their first generation of cricketers post test status, IMO, there is every chance that over the next 10 yrs they will beat (in one off tests & the odd ODI bilateral) every Test member. The problem they have got atm, is they don't prepare as well as they should - they should have ALL their Test players playing in their FC domestic comp when not on National duty, they often don't enforce it - it means their players don't get battle hardened. This was not an easy tour, with 3 whistle stop legs!

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 26, 2012, 22:49 GMT)

By the way when I say ICC needs to give Ire n soon Afgh a chance I mean within then next 3-4 yrs not all the way to the yr 2020 when their best generation, capable of making the game in Ire more popular retire n good players like Dockrel n Rankin will be tempted to jump to Eng like Morgan.

Posted by G-Rocker on (July 26, 2012, 22:48 GMT)

Congrats to BD...for (4-2) in Europe tour but they should try to be more of luck for the WC.

Posted by Raiyan24r on (July 26, 2012, 22:32 GMT)

everyone saying that bd won 4 out of 6 which could also be 2.but saying that, bd could have also won all 6.upset, not actually.the players in bd don't play t20 that much. the most experience d t20 player in bd is shakib and ashraful. the bpl was the debut t20 game for a lot of good odi and tests player. whereas ned, ire,scot,etc are much more experienced in t20 as they play a lot of county.from out of the ranking bd have come to 9th. so pls pick the positives.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 22:17 GMT)

So in Europe tour Bangladesh has whitewashed the strongest team, lost to the weakest one and drew series with the team in between. This comes in the backdrop of back to back victories against World cup finalists in Asia cup. Bangladesh has to work on the consistency for some time now ...

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 22:09 GMT)

Couple of months or a year away. If bangladesh got More matches more frequently they would be able to win most of their matches because they will have more experience and momentum

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

Why are people saying bangladesh should lose their test and odi status because of 2 upsets in T20? T20 is different to Odi and is totallly different to test and in t20 upsets are very likely to happen. The pitch the match ws played on looked very similar to ones i have in my grammar school. To all those people saying bangladesh should lose their test status have you seen how many tests bangladesh play in a year compared to other teams? If bangladesh played good in a test series they will lose their momentum because their next test is a couple.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 21:58 GMT)

@_NEUTRAL_Fan_...Your arguments though true needs to be fair and honest because a lot of your arguments is of based on shear ignorance on Bangladesh Cricket. England were the first team to play Cricket whereas Bangladesh are completely new also getting thrashed to South Africa the other day, getting thrashed 3-0 to Pakistan earlier this year and not winning 50 Over World Cups for a country that has played Cricket for over 100 years is not consistent am I right? Exactly! so please come up with sensible arguments and not ignorant ones otherwise you're stuck on the same scenario. Bangladesh today unlike England lost by 1 Wicket that's not thrashed to me and besides Bangladesh thrashed them yesterday so really it is DOUBLE STANDARDS :)

Posted by Shajadul on (July 26, 2012, 21:58 GMT)

It looks like BD had a mission to play good against Ireland. As soon as they have completed that goal they have started relaxing. Whatever they had earned in Irelad tour, they have lost it in second part of the tour.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 21:50 GMT)

Great win. So the World#4 ranked team Bangladesh is beaten again by another associate team. It says a lot about ICC selections and ranking process..

Posted by Chris_P on (July 26, 2012, 21:44 GMT)

Ease up guys, no one with an understanding of cricket truly believed they were #4. It was always a ranking correction after a few games were to be played. It's the same if a new player scores a stack of runs in their first series, into the top 20 then after average scores are back down to the 40's or 50's, fluctuations are wild. At least they can refer to themselves as the "former #4".

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 21:41 GMT)

@_NEUTRAL_Fan_...Course most of the claim you make is true but you were either still missing or hiding some of the most important issues based on these points. Bangladesh had full memberships status for a mere 12 years whereas the likes of England, Australia, South Africa, India, New Zealand, West Indies etc had it for well over 80 years big difference so you can really see the difference why Bangladesh are not near or quite as strong as these teams. Bangladesh simply don't have a rich history in Cricket which is why they are undeveloped but the fact of the matter is that since the 07 World Cup, Bangladesh have improved considerably and don't forget as a whole, Bangladesh have by far the youngest of all the teams so clearly the future looks great for them. Also do not forget both India and New Zealand have a far worse record than Bangladesh when they first started to have full membership status. Other players of the other top teams are retiring now and the Cricketing World is changing.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 21:29 GMT)

now Bangladesh cricket board wants to reverse the results, because Netherlands batsman look at bangladesh bowler face before the last ball. oo

Posted by Raj2506 on (July 26, 2012, 21:20 GMT)

Bangladesh is an ordinary league team, their fans dream that they are World's best team, Wake up kids

Posted by maddy20 on (July 26, 2012, 21:05 GMT)

Beaten by two associate nations in a span of 5 days. Still think BD is worthy of being a test playing nation?

Posted by BARFI on (July 26, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

Bangladesh played an awful match with Netherland. Losing a match is not bad but it is bad how you are losing it. Batting performance is way below the mark. 128!! come on how bad they have played. If there was another match Netherland might have won that one as well. Bangladesh should regularly send under 16 or 19 to Europe to gain experince so that they won't embarace their fans

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 26, 2012, 20:49 GMT)

@Ahmed. Eng r reigning world champions. They perform consistantly well against better teams, as a result n upset against Netherlands can be overlooked. Bang have been poor for long periods n then play well in patches as a result, u MUST look at their performances more closely. Its not double standards, its logic. Many Bangla fans attack Ind because they got smashed abroad but the truth is Bangla have not defended their home turf well at all. The same full strength W.I. (without almost Sahkib or Tamim equivalent) whom some Bangla fans claimed to be on par with recently beat Bangladesh IN Bangladesh in both ODI n test series recently. Eng without Strauss n a few others clean swept Bangladesh on Bangladesh also. This does not often happen to Ind does it? Its not double standards. N.Z full strength drew 2 tests in Ind, this is something Bangladesh struggle to do. They have improved to the point they COMPETE with rare 1-2 match wins @ home but they struggle 2 draw home SERIES

Posted by Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on (July 26, 2012, 20:27 GMT)

@fr600 - what is the point are you trying to convey. From your last three similar posts we understand and know the Indian First class history. If all you want world to say BANGLA team is the best team- on behalf of them i'll say it. No one is bashing Bangladesh Cricket, you have some exciting talent like Shakib, Tamim and co. It takes time for any team to establish themselves as a best consistent team, so i encourage you to post healthy comments. I'm sure Bangla team will be a competitive team in T20 worldcup and will not bow down fighting. Its good for cricketing world if Bangladesh, Netherlands, Scotland or any upcoming team wins the t20 world cup.

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 26, 2012, 20:19 GMT)

@Ahmed. Eng r reigning world champions. They perform consistently well against better teams, as a result n upset against Netherlands can be overlooked. Bang have been poor for long periods n then play well in patches as a result, u MUST look at their performances more closely. Its not double standards, its logic. Many Bangla fans attack Ind because they got smashed abroad but the truth is Bangla have not defended their home turf well at all. The same full strength W.I. (without almost Sahkib or Tamim equivalent) whom some Bangla fans claimed to be on par with recently beat Bangladesh IN Bangladesh in both ODI n test series recently. Eng without Strauss n a few others clean swept Bangladesh on Bangladesh also. This does not often happen to Ind does it? Its not double standards. N.Z full strength drew 2 tests in Ind, this is something Bangladesh struggle to do. They have improved to the point they COMPETE with rare 1-2 match wins @ home but they struggle 2 draw home SERIES

Posted by na_0408 on (July 26, 2012, 19:57 GMT)

Main problem BD has is a lack of consistency. They seem to lose focus very quickly and/or become too complacent when playing against a weaker opposition.No doubt BD players are more skilled and better than the most associate players, but the difference between them is not very big, that they can afford to be complacent and win easily against these teams, especially playing away in T20.

Hope they learn a good lesson form this tour and keep a professional attitude playing against any team. All the best for the World T20.

@Narbavi,@Jason Spray @Raj1969 : Grow up and learn to do constructive criticism , if not- Keep all your hate to yourself which gets you nothing but more hate!

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

Congrats Netherlands!! This is T20, this can happen to any team anytime. Very well played. BD could have done better, but knowing this is the month of Ramadan and at least half the team fasting, in a foreign land...i'm not disappointed with the result... and for all the bashers out there...let's not belittle others... you know you are better than that outside this forum and in the real World...right? Let's lighten up...this is just a game..not war :)

Posted by sumit176 on (July 26, 2012, 19:45 GMT)

@hasinul abir ,,,ur a funny man

Posted by serious-am-i on (July 26, 2012, 19:43 GMT)

@santosher67: each coin has 2 sides isn't it my friend ? When bashing starts unnecessarily its bound to bounce back. Remember Newton's 3rd law - Each action has an equal and opposite reaction ? I have been an honest critic and I am not really pleased with Indian performances off late, ever since WC to be honest and i have openly criticized their attitude as well but these BD fans poking their noses and considering themselves to be a better team than SL and India was totally unwarranted for. Its where this ugly bashing started, just because BD won 2 matches against SL and Ind, they started bad mouthing & thinking themselves to be a top team already. But honestly, I am really disappointed with almost all the Asian fans over here, instead of backing each other, people are taking potshots at each other, such a disgrace to gentleman's game of cricket.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

I don't understand why 'some' Indians are so happy about because unlike India, Bangladesh have at least won their games in Europe even though if it was against Associates. Bangladesh have played 6 games and won 4 of them AWAY plus 3 of their games where played whilst fasting suggests that this was a decent effort besides, according to you guys, Bangladesh are minnows so what's wrong with minnows losing a few games to minnows? Exactly! Besides the Netherlands beated World Champions England in this format so if you jealous people from whatever countries rate Bangladesh higher than England than really appreciate it guys but really why the DOUBLE STANDARDS? - Okay for England to lose to Netherlands but not okay for Bangladesh to 'just' lose to Netherlands even though this same Bangladesh 'thrashed' Netherlands yesterday so love to here from you but not the ignorant ones since they have no case :)

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 19:33 GMT)

@Shokat Khan..You do make a good point that Bangladesh given Test Status was premature but really Cricket had no choice otherwise the whole world or Non- Cricket fans will laugh on why there are Cricket Rankings if only very few teams in this case 8 teams play Test Cricket whereas other Teams Sports such as Football, Rugby, Baseball, Hockey etc has rankings for well over 20 teams unlike Cricket. The fact is my friend, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are really there to just fill up the ranks so that Test Cricket is not embarrassed Ranking wise.

Posted by Stark62 on (July 26, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

And with those two defeats...........Bang have taken back their place in the rankings at no. 9!!

Posted by Naveed85 on (July 26, 2012, 19:15 GMT)

after today's loss Bangladesh is now 11th in icc rank .bangaldesh and Netherlands with same points .reality check for Bangladesh.. lol don't compare with Pakistan or srilanka and India

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 19:01 GMT)

absolutely disappointing. their test status to begin with was premature.

Posted by santosher67 on (July 26, 2012, 18:54 GMT)

I am an Indian - was an fan...I dont appreciate Indian fans bashing BD cricket team. Let's remember, the Indian team has been at the receiving end of a number of series in the past few months. All teams can have an off day but I would look in the mirror before commenting about others. Personally, I am disappointed by how India has performed in the past few months: to me they are too highly paid and lazy. Let's not belittle others!

Posted by UAETigers on (July 26, 2012, 18:52 GMT)

lolzz!!! to all BD Tigers, one more defeat with associate team!!! Well done tigers :)

Posted by cric4lyf on (July 26, 2012, 18:42 GMT)

where will bangladesh go from here now...losing to associate teams as well...i think they should come and play with indian club teams..may b they can win any game here

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 18:31 GMT)

BD is back to their original position 9th ranked team Tigers but on Paper in Real just nothing

Posted by Legaleagle on (July 26, 2012, 18:09 GMT)

Congrats to Dutch!! They were good today. Bangladesh should be stripped of its ODI and Test Status. I really hoped to see Bangladesh play against Pakistan so that BD can be thrashed.

Posted by Colombofan on (July 26, 2012, 18:01 GMT)

there are no Big Guns in world T20 cricket...this could happen to Indian team tomorrow....losing to Nederland could be sooo bitter for players and fans...

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:59 GMT)

well played bangladesh in overall europe tour an some comments from other countries may not bother us bangladeshi such for eg india they simply are jealous cause we whipped their tail in asia cup.They should remember that they tried 45 years to get test playing approval,but bangladesh managed to get it in 10 yrs.So it answers all who will become a better cricket playing nation in the near future......

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

The fact is with this kind of shady performance the BD team can never dream of winning a single match in the ICC T20 world cup where you will face more world class bowlers & batsman.

Posted by tfjones1978 on (July 26, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

If T20I matches were a two year competition of 30 T20's per team home or away, then using the 69 T20 matches from the past 24 months the results would be (with max of 2 games per opponent & 2 pts per win): [1] SA (10/30) 14 pts, [2] Ire (8/30) 12 pts, [3] Eng (10/30) 12 pts, [4] Pak (14/30) 12 pts, [5] WI (10/30) 10 pts, [6] Srl (5/30) 8 pts, [7] Bang (7/30) 8 pts, [8] NZ (8/30) 8 pts, [9] Aust (10/30) 8 pts, [10] Sco (5/30) 6 pts, [11] Net (6/30) 6 pts, [12] Ind (7/30) 6 pts, [13] Afgan (3/30) 4 pts, [14] Ken (3/30) 0 pts, [15] Can (4/30) 0 pts, [16] Zimb (6/30) 0 pts. With these as the progression leaderboard the remaining 16 to 27 matches for each team would be exciting, given that six or eight teams would qualify for the "World Cup Finals". The 30 matches could be the "World Cup Series" with the bottom four teams having to play off in qualifiers against six associates in a 10 team World Cup qualifiers for the next World Cup Series (similar to WCL in ODI's).

Posted by cricfan2007 on (July 26, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

I see people always confuse among different formats. you can't judge a team's test qualifucation based on T20 performance and ODI performance. Also, everyone should nto rush to comclusion on a team's fate after every match and instead criticize performance of that particular match. In T-20: Bangladesh has played very few and still emerging In ODI: I consider BD matured and can challenge any side In Test: BD is just like all other countries who plays well at home condition and not so good away. In test, Bangladesh still lacks quality bowling department and also need two more good batsmen. Your best allrounder can't be your best batsman and you need ot develop few who can carry the team. I just wanted to give a honest assessment in stead of bashing and counter-bashing different fans.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

Next T20 Champions and world BEST team lost, oh no

Posted by cricket_expart on (July 26, 2012, 17:43 GMT)

agreed with @Rk204 @serious m i.

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 26, 2012, 17:43 GMT)

Hoping now I can add my honest n positive criticism of Bang and my support for Ire without too many over aggressiv Bangla fans trying to drown me out. Bangladesh's tour has confirmed what the cricket world knows, they hav improved to the point that they r now clearly better than Ire n lets add Afghanistan. BUT they r not up to the level of a full strength NZ n W.I. 6 matches 2 losses n 2 last ball wins r much too close for a full member on such a tour. A 1 game upset n 1 close win is what shud be par for full members like NZ or W.I. n better .I think Bang n Zim can serve as good TRANSITIONAL teams for the top associates. The more Ire n co play them the better they should become. I think ICC should grant Ire 1st full satus so that they can easier be allowed to do so. It also confirms that Ire, Net n I'm sure Afgh r better than Bang were back when they first got full status. Crowd support should come later. Look @ NZ where cricket is not their prime sport. They still do ok for crowds.

Posted by NP_NY on (July 26, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

BD has a strong cricket team......compared to the other sports where they have the distinction of being the largest country to never win an olympic medal. Atleast their cricket team has beat Ireland in an away tournament (their only away tournament win ever, if you don't count their win against a third string WI team when the top 20 WI players were on strike) after playing cricket for three decades.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

@EnglishCricket Cameron Borgas is the Dutch overseas player for the CB40. The Australians on the team can play for the Netherlands as their parents or grandparents were Dutch.

Posted by NP_NY on (July 26, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

BD has been given numerous chances in the test and one-day arena over the last 20 years, with no significant achievement to show for it. Some of these other countries with part-time cricketers have shown time and again that they can beat BD. If ICC had given them as many opportunities as they did to BD, some of these countries will be quite competitive test and one day arenas by now.

Posted by Muhtasim13 on (July 26, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

One of the most positive things for Netherlands is that they have played quite well in these 2 matches without ten Doeschate. It would be exciting to see how well they perform in the World Cup once he returns to the side. And the Europe tour wasn't too bad for Bangladesh. 4 wins out of 6 is a good run given the inexperience of BD in T20 matches

Posted by samincolumbia on (July 26, 2012, 17:14 GMT)

Bangladesh is now #9 in T20 rankings...So, how many hours were they at #4? LOL Literally and rightfully brought down to the bottom...where they belong!

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

@showkat khan

As I understand it, the BD players are covered by the travelling exception to Ramadan fasting, and in fact I watched the games and am pretty sure I saw them drinking water, as did the Muslims in the Holland team.

@peopletalking about aussies and pakistanis Netherlands squad was all naturalised (long term residents like Cooper and Bokhari) children of Dutch parents (Swart and various others) or Dutch born (Borren and the heroic Jamil)

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:11 GMT)

Though I admit Bangladesh batting was pathetic, just want the jealous people to know that in that extreme heat, Bangladesh players were also fasting for these 3 straight days but it doesn't mean Netherlands are better than Bangladesh or anything because yesterday, Bangladesh thrashed them whereas today, Netherlands just won by the scrape of their teeth last ball so that shows the difference of the teams plus Netherlands are not really Netherlands because almost half their players are foreign especially Michael Swart but nevertheless this was a T20 match and anything can happen and if you want proof, the same Netherlands beat World Champs England in this same format so why the DOUBLE STANDARDS? :)

Posted by fr600 on (July 26, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

Rankings again? Wall, India did not take cricket seriously till after independence in 1947? Ranji tropy started in 1936 and it continued through the world war. Who are we kidding? Facilities? India had over 50 grounds that held FC matches by 1952 (before first ever victory against a subpar team). Do you know when BD's proper first class structure started? Do you know how many grounds worth holding FC matches do BD have? There is not even a comparison. India's second win came again PK, that was PK's first test series ever! Even in that series India lost a match to the newcomers. India's next victory came against NZ who was winless for 37 years when IND beat them. It took India more than 30 years after having a solid FC structure to beat "real" teams in test matches. The draws you are refering to: Before 1952, majority, if not all of the test matches IND played were 3 day matches. It is easy to draw 3 day matches. If look closely, IND lost many of those by an INN. (Courtesy: r0ketman)

Posted by nsn26 on (July 26, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

our players are fasting in RAMADAN....

Posted by tfjones1978 on (July 26, 2012, 17:05 GMT)

I think Bangladesh's tour of Europe proves that the top associate teams can compete against a full member team which has in recent years beaten top full members. Bangladesh won four matches & last two, but could have lost four and won two. I believe this shows there is more then only a handful of teams that can compete in T20I matches. The ICC needs to acknowledge the competitiveness of associates in T20's and create a qualification system for all 16 teams with T20I status. This could be done by two groups of 8 teams (home & away) or one group of 16 teams (home or away). Each series could be two matches, allowing for 30 T20 matches with top 6 or 8 teams qualifying for the T20 World Cup that commences just after the tournament concludes. With only 6 or 8 teams, a round robin of 5 to 7 matches at the World Cup could occur. These matches need to be included as guaranteed matches in FTP (eg: A tour of Europe means England, Scotland, Ireland & Netherland, 8 of 30 matches just there).

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

Tamim should understand his limitations. His strike rate as a opener in T20 is ridiculous. The real fire power in bangladesh's batting comes in the form of sakib and mushfiqur. I am sure Nasir Hossian is the one to watch out for in the future.

Saying that I still sure that Bangladesh can at best compete against the top 8 teams in any form of cricket and cannot win consistently, they deserve number 9 spot in all the three forms of the game.

Posted by Sadequl on (July 26, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

Congratulations to Dutch team & probably this will be a lesson for BD team [management & players] to realize where actually they stand in this sort of limited over games. After loosing to Scottish some might have thought it was a fluke but after loosing this match to Dutch it shows the real standard of a full member's strength compare to other associate members in Twentity-20 matches. Hope after finishing this tour BD team will move around with positive approach for the up coming T-20 WC.

Posted by borhans on (July 26, 2012, 16:57 GMT)

Its like Indian fans are more interested In BD's progress than their own team .good to know .Maybe Indian fans should think about their white wash that they had in Europe at least BD did better than them

Posted by Raj1969 on (July 26, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

Bangladesh should b disqualied from test/ odi status

Posted by BanCricFan on (July 26, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

@All: just wait for T20 world cup. Then we'll talk. Thnx.

Posted by Blacknwhite on (July 26, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

I read last week that BD is no.4 in ranking, but i can see them only in 9th position today. Why so???

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

@Narbavi : Here I am. I was just taking a look into past records of India - nothing but an innocent look :), when I remembered that in 1979 Sri Lanka beat India by 47 runs. Sri Lanka were not yet a full-member of the ICC when they downed their neighbours by a surprisingly large margin in a One Day International. I also remember the fresh whitewash by 4-0 against Australia and England.

Posted by serious-am-i on (July 26, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

well played NL. Here we go again. BD losing 2 matches against associates almost with in a week does prove the critics rite that BD is still a long way from being comparable with top nations. So BD has won against 2 top teams India and SriLanka and have lost against 2 far weaker teams is something BD fans have to think about - its a reality test. Having 1 bad day is acceptable but have 2 bad days with in a week against 2 much weaker teams is something BD has to really think about how they would progress ahead. I mentioned much earlier in one of my posts about the same thing & BD fans came bashing un-necessarily. Now, at least realize the hard reality - BD is still miles away from their goal so stop comparing with top teams for now. Have smaller goals achieve them, its a step by step process not a race where u run from your 1st gear to 5th gear. Anyways, good luck for BD hopefully they could take this as a learning curve.

Posted by RK204 on (July 26, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

Hey don't be so upset. In t20 anybody can defeat anyone at anytime. This was a preparation series, our main objective was to prepare the T20 world cup. Getting high ranking by beating associate team has no pride.

All rounder Shakib was a bit off form after doing heavy modeling , we clearly missed his classy performance except the first match. This tour gave Tamim confidence to score in T20, Ziaur to hit sixes, Nasir to get his maiden 50 , Elias to make record, Mahmudullah to assault his critics, Mashrafe to show his true all round ability.

Also reveled weakest point of pace bowling attack. All these will benefit us in the T20 World cup. Forget about the stupid ranking and win. Our main objective is to do well in the the T20 world cup. Insha'Allah we will do it. Don't blame the team now.

Posted by CAJOSEPH on (July 26, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

Wow... world no. 4, was this an off day as well... wake up to the reality... if you can't win a minnow vs minnow game comprehensively, all wins against established teams would be called upsets.. that is where BD cricket stands as of now... upset...

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

Congratulations to Netherlands,well played.I must also give my ultimate respect and admiration to the Bangladeshi team for the out-standing performance in this European Tour because I know how difficult it is fasting for 18 to 19 hours a day and to travel in this Ramadan period.Although we may have lost couple of games,I do not attach any blame on any of the Bangladeshi players because given any other period rather than Ramadan we would have won all the games and very convincingly too.From what I have witnessed so far,the Bangladeshi prospect for the future looks very bright indeed.Thanks to all the host nations and their fans for your hospitality shown to Bangladesh and may you prosper in the future of cricket.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

Congratulations to the Dutch! Our BD team is far behind from a consistant. A lot of improvements required to all the departments. A player like Junaid should never make the 11. Nazmul and Abul must find the line and length to be in the next squad.

Posted by Tahir_Anjum on (July 26, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

@ Narbavi : Haha you took my words bro... BD is on no 4 in ranking but are they really no 4?? do u think???

Posted by Htc-Android on (July 26, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

this dutch team with ryan tendoeschate, cooper,swart and kervezee can threaten any team. i was very disappointed ryan dint play in the these 2 games. im sure bangladesh would have lost both games if he played.

Posted by EnglishCricket on (July 26, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

Sorry Bangladesh but that's why we label you guys alongside Zimbabwe or even Ireland. We're not here to bash you or anything just speaking the facts and Bangladesh do have a lot to do to beat the big teams but I do have sympathy for them because the main performers of Netherlands were not in fact Dutch but Australian and believe they are only allowed to play for Netherlands in the English Domestic 40 Over Format but not in Internationals but somehow they were allowed to play in Internationals but not surprised because Cricket is run by the ICC and they are causing all sorts of problems already with Ranking Systems, DRS, Foreign Players, FTP etc etc.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Like I said earlier, this shows Bangladesh and Zim are about on a level with the best associates, Ireland played very poorly in one game, and could have easily won the other two.

Congratulations Holland, and congratulations to Bangladesh for agreeing to play these games. BD can only get criticism if they lose, and no credit if they win, so by playing these teams they do cricket a service. If only India did the same.... and England should host a European cup tournament every season, featuring England, Ireland, Scotland, Netherlands and Denmark.

Posted by NP_NY on (July 26, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Way to justify the number 4 ranking BD! :)

Posted by Akshaythekaxk on (July 26, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

to BD fans:BD is a good team, just do not compare your team with India :)

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

poor poor poor, bangalesh need to just stop playing cricket.

Posted by TheReverseDoosra_K on (July 26, 2012, 16:36 GMT)

Conrats to teh Oranje. They also need to work on developing home-grown Dutch descent players because they cannot keep on importing for the next years.

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:29 GMT)

Absolute disgrace Bangladesh, though your bowling and fielding was fine but yet again Batting was careless and pathetic and I know you were playing away and fasting but still you gave it away to them maybe the critics do make a valuable point but that's not my main point today because I just found out that almost half these so called 'Dutch' players are not Dutch in fact, the match winnings knock for the Netherlands what's his name "Michael" Swart is in fact an Australian so really Bangladesh were not just playing Dutch players but also Australian plus a few Pakistani's, in other words it was Bangladesh v Netherlands/Australia/Pakistan all together and I'm not trying to make a silly excuse, just speaking the facts but regardless of that, Bangladesh batting was a disgrace and rightfully deserve to be called minnows!

Posted by   on (July 26, 2012, 16:28 GMT)

Congrats guys..BL made a jump in their T20 ranking..from 4 to 9.Its reverse order jump.They came back to their original position where they belong to.

Posted by Ra_Thore on (July 26, 2012, 16:26 GMT)

I like to question BD's ranking after upsets with associate nations. Push them back to the deserving 9th.

Posted by Narbavi on (July 26, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

Greetings BD fans, come out come out wherever you are, time to talk!!

Posted by Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on (July 26, 2012, 16:24 GMT)

Michael Swart what a player he is, cool composed and accelerates when he needs. A great player to watch out for in future. Good comeback Dutch and nice to see you held nerves and placed your innings very well. Bangla, I guess your start was a little shaky and no one really accelerated the innings. Tamim is a great prospect and plays cameos when needed if at all he accelerated a little bit. Good fight back with ball to take the game all the way till the end but i guess you were at least 10 runs short. Europe trip was a great experience and I'm sure lot of positives will help you in t20 world cup. You are one of the teams i will be looking for in t20 world cup. Good Luck!

Posted by fire_dragon on (July 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

Very poor play by BD. Everyone should play more well. Whatever total result is not bat as it is 4-2.

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