Ireland news July 4, 2013

Ireland still begging for fixtures - Joyce

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Stuck between a rock and a hard place could be an apt way to describe Ireland cricket at the moment. They are desperate to move up the ICC ladder, but joining the elite of world cricket can often feel a harder job that breaking into Fort Knox.

There remains intense frustration within Ireland at the pace that they are able to further their ambitions due to the limited exposure they receive against Full Member nations, who are content to play among themselves in some largely context-less ODI series that fill up the global calendar.

Some players, such as the vocal Trent Johnston, are not afraid to suggest it is because teams are "scared" of losing to Ireland, while others take a more measured approach, remaining grateful for what Ireland have and being cautious not to alienate those who do provide the valuable experiences that the team requires.

Along with Johnston, Ed Joyce is an elder statesman of Irish cricket - so much so that he left once before returning after dropping off the England radar - and he admitted that living off "crumbs" from other international tours left Ireland "begging" for more opportunities. Joyce believes they have more than proved their worth at the top level.

"We are still in the situation where we are almost begging for fixtures, which is obviously not ideal because we feel as a competitive side we have gone past that," Joyce told ESPNcricinfo at the launch of the RSA Challenge match against England, which will be held on September 3 at Malahide.

"It is frustrating that we aren't getting more fixtures but I wouldn't want to point fingers. We are simultaneously grateful for teams coming to play against us, but slightly frustrated that more teams don't. We still live off the crumbs of the teams touring England and that's the way it always has been.

"I realise why the big teams play each other a lot, there are huge financial incentives which they perhaps don't see with us, so it's about us getting in a position where we can be involved in the 'club', so to speak, and then hopefully other teams like Scotland, Netherlands, Afghanistan can do the same thing because there are a lot of good cricketer outside of the Test playing nations."

What adds to the angst and annoyance is that Ireland are in fine fettle. They could have beaten Pakistan in the two-ODI series that preceded the Champions Trophy, competed strongly against Australia A in Belfast, are well clear at the top of the Intercontinental Cup and also lead the World Cricket League one-day table.

The ODIs against Pakistan were particularly noteworthy, concluding in a tie and a last-ditch win for Pakistan after Ireland controlled both matches for significant periods. It is the type of form they will need to carry into the England game later in the summer to ensure that Ireland's on-field performances continue to make strong statements.

Ireland had hoped to arrange a series against Bangladesh but that has fallen through, meaning the England game is now their one remaining match against a Full Member in their season.

"The two games against Pakistan showed that we have made great strides. Who would have said four or five years ago that we'd be disappointed not to have beaten Pakistan?" Joyce said. "We were hopeful of getting Bangladesh over for some matches but they have pulled out of that for various reasons. It is frustrating but we realise where we are.

"We need to be playing as many of the big sides as we can, but we understand that it is very difficult for them to fit us into an already packed schedule, which we are trying to get around by getting into the FTP in years to come.

"The game against England has a dual purpose - to keep showing how we have improved and also if we play well it will create interest in the game. When Ireland beat England at the last World Cup and Pakistan the one before, there was a huge uptake in membership at clubs. I think there is now a club in every county in Ireland - all 32 - which certainl hasn't been the case for many years."

Evolving domestic cricket in Ireland is crucial to the country's ambitions. An inter-provincial tournament has been re-launched to try and improve the standards for those who do not play county cricket and ultimately there is a plan to launch a first-class competition so that players can remain in Ireland with a view of building a Test side.

The recent debut of Boyd Rankin in England's Twenty20 against New Zealand has rubber-stamped another player slipping from Ireland's grasp - even if Rankin had long-since made his intentions clear - although a recent tweak to the ICC regulations means that he would now need only two years to re-qualify for Ireland rather than the four that Joyce had to go through.

"I think it's a fairer rule, because there's no real option for the likes of Boyd," Joyce said. "I would like to think Boyd and Eoin Morgan's generation will be the last who feel they have to make that decision so they can play at the highest level. Boyd is desperate to play Test cricket, and fair play to him, we wish him well.

"Now the likes of George Dockrell, Paul Stirling, Stuart Thompson and James Shannon, they have more of a chance to play at a higher level with Ireland. But until we get to a stage where we are regularly playing against top nations - and that will only happen when we attain some higher membership status, either Test status or increased ODI status - I think you might have the odd player who feels they have to make that move to further their own ambitions.

"Hopefully the ICC will see that Ireland are improving and are fulfilling all the criteria they want of us to play more teams. The only thing we can do is put in performances against top sides to show what we can do and hope the powers that be listen to our raving and ranting."

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 4, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    This Ireland team is more than promising and makes me remember the Zimbabwe team of 1999-200 ... the team with Johnson. Flower brothers, Campbell, Murray Goodwin, and Heath Streak ... I feel sorry for the present scene of Zimbabwe cricket after such a promising position ... Even the Sri Lankan cricket took off from the likewise position and only 3 or 4 years before ... I just want Ireland to follow the footsteps of Sri Lanka .. not Zimbabwe .. :)

  • on July 7, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    It would be very intresting to see if they could in the foreseeable future arrange a short series against the West Indies,regardless of where it is played.Guess it would have to be slotted in at the back end of the home schedule or an international tour.

  • siddhartha87 on July 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT

    Ireland team is really promising. I think they are as good as Zimbabwe if not better. England board should really help them. They should play 2 series every year(home and away) against them. Lack quality cricket may give rise to Kenya part 2. It's really shame that Bangladesh are refusing to play against them. ICC should make fixtures in way that team like Ireland gets to play 25 ODI plus 10-12 T20 I s per year. That will be really helpful.They are definitely going to be 11th test playing nation.So ICC should start taking steps towards it.

  • on July 5, 2013, 14:04 GMT

    All I ask is the chance for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to prove they are better than Ireland in tests :-)

    I think the lack of ODI and 20:20's is more of an issue - this is something easily resolved by the ICC

  • CricketChat on July 5, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Ireland, Afghanistan should get at least ODI and T20 status. They are not far behind Zim, Bang in these formats. Increased exposure can only be good for them and if that happens, they can be competitive against higher ranked teams in about 4/5 yrs from now.

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Yes, idea of adding them along with test playing nation is good for both. Lot of bench strength is getting wasted and is also not allowing other teams to succeed...

  • EnglishCricket on July 5, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    Good article. Its amazing teams like Pakistan and England are happily and willing to play Ireland but the weaker teams Bangladesh and Zimbabwe being offered a series by Ireland but immediately refusing. This is totally unacceptable and ICC must do something about this and also help Ireland achieve their ambitions because they deserve it. They are too good for this 'associate' level and need a new challenge. Yes they will struggle a bit at the elite level but so are a lot of the full members. All the other sports are spreading to more nations just look at Tennis and how they are now taking it to Asia and the current success of Wimbledon. What is Cricket doing to help these associate teams? Ireland really by now should be playing at least 12 ODIs a year against full members along with their ODI games against associates so they will be prepared for the World Cup. Love to see a tri series between Ireland, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe which is already successful in the Caribbean as of now.

  • on July 5, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    I think its high time to bring back the Tri-nation series. So for example if Pakistan and India are playing a series i.e 3 Tests, 5 ODis and 3 T20. Instead of having 5 ODis make it a Tri-nation series with one Associate as the third country. So in a Pak vs Ind series Afghanistan could be the third associate. England can add Scotland, Ireland, Holland in their home matches, Australia can add US or Canada for their home series. Ideally you would want to have an associate of the same region but that should not become a rule, associates from other regions should also be given a chance. This way everyone wins, the associates get to face 2 Test playing nations and gather valuable experience and the Test playing nations can try out their bench strength. the 4 or 5 players who miss out every time and be mere spectators also get to showcase their credentials.

  • Chris_P on July 5, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    Come on ICC. In Ireland we have infrastructure, a high standard, facilities, & they can play in the county competitions. All in all far more than some current test playing nations. A rule relaxing player returns when tests status is achieved short be fast tracked. We need to keep this progress going.

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:54 GMT

    Mr.Colm Mooney: Bangladesh beat ireland in last ball or with 2 wickets,that was happened in t20 matches,Most of the t20 matches' result produce in last over.How many times Ireland beat bangladesh??? Plz take a look--ODI Stats: In BD, BD won 4 matches,IRE-0,In Ireland,Ireland-1,BD-1,In Neutral Venue,Ire-1 (world cup),BD-0. /// T20 Stats: In BD, BD-0,Ire-0, In Ire, BD-3,Ire-0, in neautral venue,BD-0,Ire-1 (in world cup).Now tell me,who is better?? I dont understand why people compare with Ireland?? BD is far better than Ireland. Ireland only played good cricket against Pak.BD already Beat almost every team in recent times.Draw with SL (1-1),Win over WI (3-2),White washed NZ (4-0),Runners up in Asia Cup.How many times IRE produced this type of results in recent times??? Cricinfo plz publish ....

  • on July 4, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    This Ireland team is more than promising and makes me remember the Zimbabwe team of 1999-200 ... the team with Johnson. Flower brothers, Campbell, Murray Goodwin, and Heath Streak ... I feel sorry for the present scene of Zimbabwe cricket after such a promising position ... Even the Sri Lankan cricket took off from the likewise position and only 3 or 4 years before ... I just want Ireland to follow the footsteps of Sri Lanka .. not Zimbabwe .. :)

  • on July 7, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    It would be very intresting to see if they could in the foreseeable future arrange a short series against the West Indies,regardless of where it is played.Guess it would have to be slotted in at the back end of the home schedule or an international tour.

  • siddhartha87 on July 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT

    Ireland team is really promising. I think they are as good as Zimbabwe if not better. England board should really help them. They should play 2 series every year(home and away) against them. Lack quality cricket may give rise to Kenya part 2. It's really shame that Bangladesh are refusing to play against them. ICC should make fixtures in way that team like Ireland gets to play 25 ODI plus 10-12 T20 I s per year. That will be really helpful.They are definitely going to be 11th test playing nation.So ICC should start taking steps towards it.

  • on July 5, 2013, 14:04 GMT

    All I ask is the chance for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to prove they are better than Ireland in tests :-)

    I think the lack of ODI and 20:20's is more of an issue - this is something easily resolved by the ICC

  • CricketChat on July 5, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Ireland, Afghanistan should get at least ODI and T20 status. They are not far behind Zim, Bang in these formats. Increased exposure can only be good for them and if that happens, they can be competitive against higher ranked teams in about 4/5 yrs from now.

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Yes, idea of adding them along with test playing nation is good for both. Lot of bench strength is getting wasted and is also not allowing other teams to succeed...

  • EnglishCricket on July 5, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    Good article. Its amazing teams like Pakistan and England are happily and willing to play Ireland but the weaker teams Bangladesh and Zimbabwe being offered a series by Ireland but immediately refusing. This is totally unacceptable and ICC must do something about this and also help Ireland achieve their ambitions because they deserve it. They are too good for this 'associate' level and need a new challenge. Yes they will struggle a bit at the elite level but so are a lot of the full members. All the other sports are spreading to more nations just look at Tennis and how they are now taking it to Asia and the current success of Wimbledon. What is Cricket doing to help these associate teams? Ireland really by now should be playing at least 12 ODIs a year against full members along with their ODI games against associates so they will be prepared for the World Cup. Love to see a tri series between Ireland, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe which is already successful in the Caribbean as of now.

  • on July 5, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    I think its high time to bring back the Tri-nation series. So for example if Pakistan and India are playing a series i.e 3 Tests, 5 ODis and 3 T20. Instead of having 5 ODis make it a Tri-nation series with one Associate as the third country. So in a Pak vs Ind series Afghanistan could be the third associate. England can add Scotland, Ireland, Holland in their home matches, Australia can add US or Canada for their home series. Ideally you would want to have an associate of the same region but that should not become a rule, associates from other regions should also be given a chance. This way everyone wins, the associates get to face 2 Test playing nations and gather valuable experience and the Test playing nations can try out their bench strength. the 4 or 5 players who miss out every time and be mere spectators also get to showcase their credentials.

  • Chris_P on July 5, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    Come on ICC. In Ireland we have infrastructure, a high standard, facilities, & they can play in the county competitions. All in all far more than some current test playing nations. A rule relaxing player returns when tests status is achieved short be fast tracked. We need to keep this progress going.

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:54 GMT

    Mr.Colm Mooney: Bangladesh beat ireland in last ball or with 2 wickets,that was happened in t20 matches,Most of the t20 matches' result produce in last over.How many times Ireland beat bangladesh??? Plz take a look--ODI Stats: In BD, BD won 4 matches,IRE-0,In Ireland,Ireland-1,BD-1,In Neutral Venue,Ire-1 (world cup),BD-0. /// T20 Stats: In BD, BD-0,Ire-0, In Ire, BD-3,Ire-0, in neautral venue,BD-0,Ire-1 (in world cup).Now tell me,who is better?? I dont understand why people compare with Ireland?? BD is far better than Ireland. Ireland only played good cricket against Pak.BD already Beat almost every team in recent times.Draw with SL (1-1),Win over WI (3-2),White washed NZ (4-0),Runners up in Asia Cup.How many times IRE produced this type of results in recent times??? Cricinfo plz publish ....

  • on July 4, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    WorldWideCricket if you want to claim success in Ireland's tour of Bangladesh that happened after the Cricket World cup in 2007 then go ahead.

    However all of that squad were part time cricketers, they worked during the day and after work they went to the pitches and practiced. They went to Bangladesh and played an ODI series and I don't think it was a convincing series win as your Test status should have done to us.

    When we play in neutral venues, 2007 WC mostly an amateur side again and we beat you quite convincingly. Then the T20 wc in Eng we also beat you again.

    BD toured Ireland in 2012 and despite the 3-0 win for BD during the series the scoreline flattered you. With 1 of those games winning from the last ball, and the other was won with 1 wicket in hand. The first was more dominant, but all in all it flattered you.

    Ire have invited BD, but they refuse, Ire would happily tour if the ICC helped finance us. We receive 525,000 from ICC, BD receive 10 million. Bit of a difference?

  • Rixgm7 on July 4, 2013, 19:54 GMT

    As a kiwi I would love to see Ireland in NZ this summer to replace the portions of the tour that India is "unable" to fufill. This should include a five day first class match against a full strength NZ X1.

  • on July 4, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    Before getting test status,BD played lots of matches against India A,Pak A,Srilanka A,WI A,Haiderabad Xl,MCC,PIA & participated Indian,pakistan & WI local tournament.Ireland should looking for International team's local tournament.Stats doesn't show Ireland is better than BD. Why BD is fear of them??? last year BD visited Ireland.Ireland should come this time though BD will very busy upcoming series & home league.I want to suggest Ireland for organize tournament along International team's A team for preparing & competitive in International level.Dear Irish friend,cricket is all about money....... still India not inviting BD team in their country & Money will not generate if they host BD.So you all have to realize other country don't want to organize cricket match with Ireland because that series won't financially benefited them.So,don't blame other country.

  • just_Test_lover on July 4, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    South Africa need to regain their ODI status, why not risk it against Ireland, Netherlands and Zimbabwe.

    I think all ODI series should include a third team of Zim, Bang and Ireland possibly getting many more fixtures.

    Many times SA host tri series with Sri lanka when they started

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    I believe many of the commenters here talk out of some ignorance. There have been more "planned" tours that have fallen through with BD and Zim than have gone ahead. Trent has a point when commenting about those 2 teams. When the Zim XI played in the IC Cup, Ireland more than held their own in Zim. Many teams, particularly Australia, do actually play against Scot/Ire when they tour. Both Aust A and Sth Africa A have toured for 3/4 days games. There are often tri-series with Scotland/Ireland plus another. The signs are all positive. New ground this year too. However what Ireland lack (and they are trying everything I know) is "series" like the one against Pakistan instead of one-off fixtures that one wet day can ruin for the entire year (god forbid it rains Sep3). Many times they have played in WI - but always it was WI XI not an official ODI or T20. Proper FULLseries against any and all teams in any conditions anywhere is what Ireland WANT but they simply can't get enough at the moment

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    FTP is so packed till 2019. ICC should do something to accommodate Ire and other top associates. Ire should get at least 15 ODIs and 10 T20Is per year.

  • WorldWideCricket on July 4, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    If IRE is strong and good team, then what would they benefit from playing "weak" team like BD or ZIM? IRE should be playing with so called TOP 8 to justify their existence in cricket. It is so funny that how people compare IRE with BD or ZIM. IRE players have full access to county, and also they play for ENGLAND. They should be stronger than BD or ZIM, but their stat does not tell that specially against BD. It will be impossible for them to beat BD in BD. Even #1 team like India can not say for sure that they can beat BD in BD.

  • WorldWideCricket on July 4, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    Why Ireland do not take initiative to visit Bangladesh/Zim/NZ and other countries instead of asking them to visit Ireland? They are especially targeting weak team like BD and ZIM to visit Ireland so that they can beat them in their own condition and claim for test status. Beating weak team like ZIM and BD wont establish test status claim, unless and until they beat top 8 in a consistent basis. If Ireland are so confident that they can beat BD and ZIM, why don't they visit BD and ZIM and beat them in their own backyard. I can guarantee it is impossible for them beat BD in BD or ZIM in ZIM. They are not that stronger yet.

  • jmcilhinney on July 4, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    The context of the ODI series between the top nations is money. If the top nations play more games against Ireland then they will play fewer against each other and it's those games that pay the bills. If Ireland could guarantee the same level of income for their opponents as they could get by playing another full member then I doubt that there'd be an issue.

  • harmske on July 4, 2013, 12:36 GMT

    @Rajasundram Sivasubramaniam - Ireland can't just rock up to Ban/NZ/whereever and demand to play. The host nation has to agree to, well, host them for them to be able to play overseas. I don't think it has anything to do with Ireland wanting to play home advantage.

  • mihir_nam on July 4, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    Well Ireland have to help themselves out..Kenya hosted many Tri Series and Quadrangular with full members from 1996 -2003 Ireland can follow that model for revenue invite visiting teams to England for tri Series . Or Invite India Pakistan for tri series for which Ireland don't have to run to sponsors..

  • on July 4, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    They did all they can.. Its more than ICC can ask from them. True Fan for Ireland.

  • on July 4, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    Ireland should be allowed to play as one team in the English County Championship for a couple of years.

    Instead of asking Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to come over to Ireland, why not volunteer to go to Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Zimbabwe to plat Test Matches, ODIs and T20s.

    I feel that Ireland want to play the Home Advantage and weather to their benefit and use it to claim Test Status.

  • Rajit on July 4, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Giants of world cricket like India,Australia,England and South Africa should play Ireland..to facilitate their progress in world cricket.

  • Rafelgibt on July 4, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @Colm Mooney on (July 4, 2013, 9:33 GMT) 'The current FC system we've is only starting, granted it's only three teams right now but these things don't become huge overnight, it does take time. I believe we will get there in the end and sooner than you might think.' Yes, that's the thing i was going to tell you about take your time.At least 5 years from now would take you guys better than straggler in TEST cricket (Test Status in 2018) but very competitive in ODIs and T20s. Believe me, we all Bangladeshi people are well wishers of ZIM,IRE,AFGAN and rest of the associate countries.

  • on July 4, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    Ireland should make tour for Pakistan and help give a life to cricket but pcb should make sure everything to safety Ireland players

  • on July 4, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    @Meety,

    This is what angers us most, he's basically not been allowed play for Ireland for another two years because of a one off meaningless T20i against NZ. The ICC granted the comeback period be changed from four years to two years. Still this isn't enough, I think someone who has played International cricket for an associate side should get a once off comeback waiver and be allowed to participate.

    Although should he come back then that is that and not allowed play for another Test side again barring his own country if they were to be granted Test status.

    I'd love if Australia would invite Ireland over for a tri-series, I'm not saying we wouldn't lose, heck we might win some games but we would put up a darn good show, I believe a stronger showing than some current Test sides have done...

  • on July 4, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding of the side who played Pakistan in a recent ODI most of those players were Irish, Porterfield, Stirling, Joyce, Niall O'Brien, Wilson, Kevin O'Brien, Shannon and Dockrell.

    Can you say the same for England's last T20i series against NZ?, your captain of that side was born down the road from me, the opening bowler was born in Ireland. Then there is KP, Lumb, Dernbach, Stokes. For a country who has had a chance to develop a lot longer than Ireland it doesn't look good fielding players not born of that country.

    I'm not attacking England, as the guys who left Ireland to play for England did so much of their own will, granted Ashley Giles leaned on Rankin severly but he's a grown man and can make up his own mind.

    The current FC system we've is only starting, granted it's only three teams right now but these things don't become huge overnight, it does take time. I believe we will get there in the end and sooner than you might think.

  • on July 4, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    @Rafelgibt Ireland offered to bring Bangladesh over here for 3 ODIS and 2 T20is but the BCB refused to come over. Ireland also asked Zimbabwe over but they also refused to come over. There is only so much we can do and ask of the Test sides, if they can't come half way and help us then we're stuck running against the wind.

    I don't feel we will go the way of Kenya as our domestic set up is now in place and starting to look very good. Granted there is only three FC teams at home but it's a start and NZ don't have that many more sides in their system.

    The future of Irish cricket is bright but it would become a more pleasant road to travel on should the ICC and the big Test sides help clear the road with us...

  • YorkshirePudding on July 4, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    I see the usual ECB bashers are about.

    The problem is that Ireland do not have a first class system in place, the inaugral 4-day system has 3 teams, only 2 of which are playing at the moment. The Irish 'International' side relies heavily on players that are born or play outside of thier country at first class level.

    The last thing the ICC want is another Bangladesh, who lets face it have trouble playing the longer format of the game,

    I would like to see the ECB create more opportunity for Ireland to play first Class games against the counties, and also the Lions. The issue is that there is already a crowded schedule in terms of the english summer and the counties cannot facilitate another team in the schedule.

  • malepas on July 4, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    I think Ireland has a very good chance of playing a top ranking team like Pakistan by touring there, they will be welcomed there and will be provided fool proof security designed for head of states, they have an offer on the table for playing 3 ODI's and 1 T20, which wouldn't be available to them otherwise. I think they should consider this which will help their status and experience a lot.

  • Rafelgibt on July 4, 2013, 8:48 GMT

    @Jono Makim on (July 4, 2013, 6:22 GMT) 'Forget about Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, they don't have the money and they won't bring anyone to the gate either, nor will you learn too much because they are really no better. ' your comments really funny.LOL>>>>>

  • jimbond on July 4, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Ireland should have some ODI/test series against India A in India- and get this to be telecast on some channel, there will be people to watch. In terms of quality, there is not much of a difference between India A and their senior team (sometimes I get the impression that their A team is experimental and sometimes better). Ireland can expect no help from England, which is looking at Ireland as a source of players and this will get thinned once Ireland starts playing tests etc. ODIs, they are already quite good. They are definitely better than say India in the late 70s, or Sri Lanka in the 80s and 90s, or ZImbabwe now, or Bangladesh at any point of their playing history.

  • on July 4, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    BCCI is blamed for almost everything that's wrong with cricket today. But really, it was the English and the Aussies who initiated the exclusive manner in which the game is administered today. I do blame Dalmia for promoting undeserving and unexciting Bangladesh to Test status. But which other global sports body has this several tiers of membership ? ICC talks about globalizing the sport but comes up with a different format for every world cup, the aim being to maximize matches between the 'big' teams. There is a ranking system in place, but no parity when it comes to number of matches the various teams get.

    God !!! Are we tired of watching the same sets of players playing each other again and again ? The only IND-SL match I have watched in last 4-5 years was the WC 2011 finals. Would love to see IND vs IRE or IND vs AFG. When the Kenyans were a good team, I watched every time India played them. Would love to see these teams come up good.

  • on July 4, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    If Ireland starts playing more internationals, England's player pool will reduce. Also Ireland should guard against playing Bangladesh as their skills might deteriorate playing a not so better team. India seems to have that issue playing against Bangladesh.

  • on July 4, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    The sad day when the future cricket historians would write in their columns about the bureaucratic administrators who wish to mint more money and do nothing for the game, in return !! Sorry state ! Trent Johnston was correct in saying ta teams fear losing to Ireland ! Now I fear that cricket may eventually lose out to the social evil: MONEY !

  • on July 4, 2013, 6:22 GMT

    I guess its all in the finances, if I were Ireland i'd be looking more towards teams like the West Indies and Sri Lanka, they pop up everywhere on what are seemingly endless world tours playing white ball cricket. Forget about Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, they don't have the money and they won't bring anyone to the gate either, nor will you learn too much because they are really no better.

  • Rafelgibt on July 4, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    Bangladesh is free right now.Why Cricket Ireland is not approaching to BCB organizing a 5 match ODI and 3 match T20 series in Ireland as its rainy season in Bangladesh currently?Really looking forward to watch this series.

  • indiasupbangalore on July 4, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    Though I feel bad that Irish cricketers are not able to play the game with full members, other than ICC tournament, I do not buy the argument that Ireland should be given more games, the reason is the crowd showing up at the Irish games is abysmal, if you have looked at the crowds at Nepal compared to Ireland you will know that Nepal or Afghanistan should be given more assistance in getting full membership sooner, my take is if the crowd shows up and there is financial viability like Nepal/Afghanistan only then they should given more games, cricket will develop in Asian countries better than European ones, since the passion is there only for football in Europe.

  • Meety on July 4, 2013, 5:50 GMT

    Dissappointing that BOTH Bangladesh & Zimbabwe don't play Ireland more often. I know too often rival fans will jump on & bag those countries SHOULD they lose to Ireland, but the benefits for the Test Minnows far outweigh the blushes of a possible loss. If Zimbabwe are about to host a Test series against say the WIndies, they should invite Ireland over for an A-tour for a couple of games - money may be a problem there, but the same thing can't quite be said of Bangladesh. Oz & SA have been touring Ireland as part of their England itinery for 20yrs, maybe we (Oz) could invite Ireland out for the 3rd slot of a tri-series, like in the early 80s we did for SL, & the mid/late 90s we did for Zimbabwe? == == == I am happy for Boyd Rankin - (I know he has pledged his allegiance to Eng), but it really gives me the sh#ts that he has basically lost his eligibility for Ireland over a 20/20 match. C'mon England - surely you could have found someone else? Select Rankin for a Test not 20/20!

  • calcu on July 4, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    Johnson is right, after Ireland's superb performance against pak, Other teams are scared playing against Ireland, because a loss will bring them lot of embarrasment. Ireland should become a full member.

  • virendra_s on July 4, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    If no full member is coming they can schedule a series with AFG. AFG is as good as bottom place full members . This way both AFG and IRE get some good games.

  • on July 4, 2013, 5:04 GMT

    Yep Ireland Deserves More exposure to international cricket.

  • Narbavi on July 4, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    Really feel bad for Ireland, if Bangladesh are good enough to play test cricket then so are Ireland, and if given test status and a chance to play more ODI's with the big boys then i am sure the Morgan and Ranking would return back which would be a huge boost!! Why isn't the ICC listening??

  • Narbavi on July 4, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    Really feel bad for Ireland, if Bangladesh are good enough to play test cricket then so are Ireland, and if given test status and a chance to play more ODI's with the big boys then i am sure the Morgan and Ranking would return back which would be a huge boost!! Why isn't the ICC listening??

  • on July 4, 2013, 5:04 GMT

    Yep Ireland Deserves More exposure to international cricket.

  • virendra_s on July 4, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    If no full member is coming they can schedule a series with AFG. AFG is as good as bottom place full members . This way both AFG and IRE get some good games.

  • calcu on July 4, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    Johnson is right, after Ireland's superb performance against pak, Other teams are scared playing against Ireland, because a loss will bring them lot of embarrasment. Ireland should become a full member.

  • Meety on July 4, 2013, 5:50 GMT

    Dissappointing that BOTH Bangladesh & Zimbabwe don't play Ireland more often. I know too often rival fans will jump on & bag those countries SHOULD they lose to Ireland, but the benefits for the Test Minnows far outweigh the blushes of a possible loss. If Zimbabwe are about to host a Test series against say the WIndies, they should invite Ireland over for an A-tour for a couple of games - money may be a problem there, but the same thing can't quite be said of Bangladesh. Oz & SA have been touring Ireland as part of their England itinery for 20yrs, maybe we (Oz) could invite Ireland out for the 3rd slot of a tri-series, like in the early 80s we did for SL, & the mid/late 90s we did for Zimbabwe? == == == I am happy for Boyd Rankin - (I know he has pledged his allegiance to Eng), but it really gives me the sh#ts that he has basically lost his eligibility for Ireland over a 20/20 match. C'mon England - surely you could have found someone else? Select Rankin for a Test not 20/20!

  • indiasupbangalore on July 4, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    Though I feel bad that Irish cricketers are not able to play the game with full members, other than ICC tournament, I do not buy the argument that Ireland should be given more games, the reason is the crowd showing up at the Irish games is abysmal, if you have looked at the crowds at Nepal compared to Ireland you will know that Nepal or Afghanistan should be given more assistance in getting full membership sooner, my take is if the crowd shows up and there is financial viability like Nepal/Afghanistan only then they should given more games, cricket will develop in Asian countries better than European ones, since the passion is there only for football in Europe.

  • Rafelgibt on July 4, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    Bangladesh is free right now.Why Cricket Ireland is not approaching to BCB organizing a 5 match ODI and 3 match T20 series in Ireland as its rainy season in Bangladesh currently?Really looking forward to watch this series.

  • on July 4, 2013, 6:22 GMT

    I guess its all in the finances, if I were Ireland i'd be looking more towards teams like the West Indies and Sri Lanka, they pop up everywhere on what are seemingly endless world tours playing white ball cricket. Forget about Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, they don't have the money and they won't bring anyone to the gate either, nor will you learn too much because they are really no better.

  • on July 4, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    The sad day when the future cricket historians would write in their columns about the bureaucratic administrators who wish to mint more money and do nothing for the game, in return !! Sorry state ! Trent Johnston was correct in saying ta teams fear losing to Ireland ! Now I fear that cricket may eventually lose out to the social evil: MONEY !

  • on July 4, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    If Ireland starts playing more internationals, England's player pool will reduce. Also Ireland should guard against playing Bangladesh as their skills might deteriorate playing a not so better team. India seems to have that issue playing against Bangladesh.