Ireland news May 27, 2014

Ireland open door to Rankin return

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A day after Boyd Rankin revealed his time on England's Ashes tour led him to contemplate giving up the game, Cricket Ireland has expressed the hope that the fast bowler could still play for them at the 2015 World Cup.

Rankin retired from playing for Ireland towards the end of 2012 and made his England debut last year before playing in the last Test of the Ashes series in January. But, after enduring an unhappy tour, Rankin appears to have slid down the pecking order of prospective England fast bowlers and might be open to the possibility of a return.

While there is a qualifying period of two years for players returning to play for Associate nations after having represented Full Member nations - it was recently reduced from four years - the ICC does have the ability to waive this in the case of exceptional circumstances. Precedent was set when they allowed Ed Joyce to return to Ireland duty less than four years after he represented England. Then, as now, the catalyst was the prospect of a World Cup.

"There is, in the higher echelons of the ICC, some sympathy for the view that the best players for each nation should appear in the World Cup," Warren Deutrom, the chief executive of Cricket Ireland, told ESPNcricinfo.

"There is a sense that it would be a shame if a player like Boyd was not there. And that has given me a sense that all is not lost in the hope to see him playing for Ireland in the World Cup."

Several substantial obstacles remain before such a dream could become a reality, though. Not least, the fact that Rankin himself has not been consulted on the idea and the fact that both the ECB and Warwickshire would have to agree. The ICC would also have to agree to make a special dispensation for Rankin.

While that would, in the short term, be of benefit to Ireland, it might have a less positive impact for Associate nations in the long term. If other players feel there is the prospect of little penalty should they abandon their Associate team in the hope of playing for a Full Member nation, it could lead to a further dilution in the quality of the game below Test level.

William Porterfield, the Ireland captain and a team-mate of Rankin's at Warwickshire, said: "I haven't spoken to Boyd, but I'm pretty sure he still harbours the aspiration of getting into more England sides and doing well for England. But he bowls upwards of 90mph and, if was to become available, then as far as I'm concerned he is more than worthy of a place."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 29, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    People forget that people represent other countries from which they were born in all the time in other sports.

    The Irish football team qualified for the 1994 with many more non Irish born players compared to the non English born cricketers who represent England Cricket team and that year England didn't qualify for the WC.

    Personally I'd like ICC to have a rule whereby generally a player who has been capped at senior level can't switch countries. I would say with Irish players they should be allowed to play test cricket for another country - until Ireland become a test playing nation but if they have been capped by Ireland at senior level in shorter formats then they should continue to play for Ireland so their cricket is able to flourish

  • POSTED BY on | May 29, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    Jumping ship to an Associate member country should have no stand down period at all providing it is the country of your birth.

    But there should be a stand down period of two years every time they want to go back to one of the big boys.

  • POSTED BY on | May 29, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    Let him play for Ireland. The world cup deserves to have the best players of each country on show. Rankin is from Northern Ireland, Let him play for them. I agree they should be given their chance at playing test matches. Can't do any worse then some of the nations that can play test matches. They may get a hiding from some of the top teams but they given a lot of sides a hiding. ICC give them the chance to play tests.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_theBestGame on | May 29, 2014, 1:56 GMT

    like another commenter said, grant Ireland test status. they are the most quality side in the associates along with Afghanistan. they can play regularly with Bangladesh and zimbabwe and W.I. the game needs to be expanded and ireland deserve it too..but i'm afraid ECB will block the move!

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 28, 2014, 19:26 GMT

    @Prash Patel, You are wrong, you can play for more than 1 national team in Football. Diego Costa won 2 caps for Brazil in 2013 & this year was capped by Spain and will go to the WC with then fitness permitting.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 28, 2014, 15:00 GMT

    Got to be honest it seems a bit farcical that a player can play for one country at full international level and then play for another country within such a short space of time. It then seems more farcical still that a player can go back to his bithplace country so quickly after playing his last game for his adopted country. I have no issue whatsoever with a player representing a country which he was not born in but surely there should be a lengthier qualifying period. If you look at the players (not born in the UK) who represented England yesteryear (Hick,Smith,Lamb,Caddick etc) , I'm don't think any of them represented their respective birthplace countries at full international level and certainly if they did they had to go through a lengthy qualifying period. I remember Hick seemed to be in his best domestic form a year or so before he qualified.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    I'm afraid International cricket is becoming a farce by allowing players to keep jumping which Country they play for! !

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 9:55 GMT

    I think Rankin should have to wait the full period and they should not allow any players to change their nationality, football has you commit to one nation and cricket should do the same, the associate sides are having their best players cherry picked and can not improve to gain test status if they can not keep their players, they should introduce some sort of second division with all current test status sides in division one and 1-2 having to fight for their status: Keep Australia, england, india, new zealand, pakistan, south africa, sri lanka, west indies, with 2 more sides making up division one so zimbabwe and bangladesh fighting to retain their spots with the likes of afghanistan, ireland etc all to push them form division 2

  • POSTED BY KDLarsen on | May 28, 2014, 9:15 GMT

    Lest we forget why he changed to allegiance in the first place: He was told by his club coach (Ashley Giles, who incidently became England coach the same year) that unless he committed to Warwickshire and England, he would not be guaranteed a new contract. Coming after a lengthy injury spell, Rankin had no other choice but to accept it.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 8:51 GMT

    This problem can be resolved by giving Ireland Test Status now, even if it is not possible to include them in the future tours programme or include them in the Test rankings immediately. They could be allowed one off test matches against anyone who can fit them in and longer series with the likes of Zimbabwe.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 29, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    People forget that people represent other countries from which they were born in all the time in other sports.

    The Irish football team qualified for the 1994 with many more non Irish born players compared to the non English born cricketers who represent England Cricket team and that year England didn't qualify for the WC.

    Personally I'd like ICC to have a rule whereby generally a player who has been capped at senior level can't switch countries. I would say with Irish players they should be allowed to play test cricket for another country - until Ireland become a test playing nation but if they have been capped by Ireland at senior level in shorter formats then they should continue to play for Ireland so their cricket is able to flourish

  • POSTED BY on | May 29, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    Jumping ship to an Associate member country should have no stand down period at all providing it is the country of your birth.

    But there should be a stand down period of two years every time they want to go back to one of the big boys.

  • POSTED BY on | May 29, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    Let him play for Ireland. The world cup deserves to have the best players of each country on show. Rankin is from Northern Ireland, Let him play for them. I agree they should be given their chance at playing test matches. Can't do any worse then some of the nations that can play test matches. They may get a hiding from some of the top teams but they given a lot of sides a hiding. ICC give them the chance to play tests.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_theBestGame on | May 29, 2014, 1:56 GMT

    like another commenter said, grant Ireland test status. they are the most quality side in the associates along with Afghanistan. they can play regularly with Bangladesh and zimbabwe and W.I. the game needs to be expanded and ireland deserve it too..but i'm afraid ECB will block the move!

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 28, 2014, 19:26 GMT

    @Prash Patel, You are wrong, you can play for more than 1 national team in Football. Diego Costa won 2 caps for Brazil in 2013 & this year was capped by Spain and will go to the WC with then fitness permitting.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 28, 2014, 15:00 GMT

    Got to be honest it seems a bit farcical that a player can play for one country at full international level and then play for another country within such a short space of time. It then seems more farcical still that a player can go back to his bithplace country so quickly after playing his last game for his adopted country. I have no issue whatsoever with a player representing a country which he was not born in but surely there should be a lengthier qualifying period. If you look at the players (not born in the UK) who represented England yesteryear (Hick,Smith,Lamb,Caddick etc) , I'm don't think any of them represented their respective birthplace countries at full international level and certainly if they did they had to go through a lengthy qualifying period. I remember Hick seemed to be in his best domestic form a year or so before he qualified.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    I'm afraid International cricket is becoming a farce by allowing players to keep jumping which Country they play for! !

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 9:55 GMT

    I think Rankin should have to wait the full period and they should not allow any players to change their nationality, football has you commit to one nation and cricket should do the same, the associate sides are having their best players cherry picked and can not improve to gain test status if they can not keep their players, they should introduce some sort of second division with all current test status sides in division one and 1-2 having to fight for their status: Keep Australia, england, india, new zealand, pakistan, south africa, sri lanka, west indies, with 2 more sides making up division one so zimbabwe and bangladesh fighting to retain their spots with the likes of afghanistan, ireland etc all to push them form division 2

  • POSTED BY KDLarsen on | May 28, 2014, 9:15 GMT

    Lest we forget why he changed to allegiance in the first place: He was told by his club coach (Ashley Giles, who incidently became England coach the same year) that unless he committed to Warwickshire and England, he would not be guaranteed a new contract. Coming after a lengthy injury spell, Rankin had no other choice but to accept it.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 8:51 GMT

    This problem can be resolved by giving Ireland Test Status now, even if it is not possible to include them in the future tours programme or include them in the Test rankings immediately. They could be allowed one off test matches against anyone who can fit them in and longer series with the likes of Zimbabwe.

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | May 28, 2014, 8:06 GMT

    So he wants to pick and choose which country to play for when it's convenient?......Interesting.

  • POSTED BY Masking_Tape on | May 28, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    This should be a lesson for all the Irish players. They need to stop doing this to their team. I think Morgan should come back too. He isn't even playing red ball, which I suppose is the main reason for them to leave Ireland.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 4:06 GMT

    @eggyroe, according to this article 'rankin himself has not been consulted on the idea", at this moment, only cricket Ireland has expressed their desire to have Rankin playing for Ireland again not Rankin himself.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 0:21 GMT

    Personally I wasn't offended at all when he decided to play for England, but I do think he should come back. Unless England tell him that he's going to get another test chance soon (which seems unlikely), I think he'd be better off being a big fish in a small pond. Ireland certainly do need him; a genuine, experienced fast bowler would be enormous for us.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    Like Ed Joyce returning to Ireland's fold, so should Rankin & Morgan. Doesn't Ireland have any way to incentivise their return? Can attractive Corporate sponsorship help? Are the not such Corporates in Ireland with the intent & resources?

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 27, 2014, 20:51 GMT

    If Rankin isn't picked to play for Eng this summer then I don't see any reason why he should be prevented from playing for Ire at the WC. However I would say that if he is allowed to play in the WC, as in the case of Ed Joyce he would cease to be available to Eng for future selection.

  • POSTED BY tatactg on | May 27, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    In case of Ed Joyce special dispensation was allowed because he was only short of 1 month of the 4 year waiting period - in case of Rankin it will be 1 year short of a 2 year waiting period.Don't think ICC will allow this and they shouldn't.

  • POSTED BY eggyroe on | May 27, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    So there we have it,player gives up playing for an associate member team,decides to play for a Test Match Team. It appears not to work out,wants to return whence he came.The saying that comes to mind is "You have made your bed ,so lie on it".Players cannot chop and change at their convenience.Once you decide which team you wish to play for that is it,and there should be no chance of a re-consideration.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | May 27, 2014, 18:59 GMT

    Having made the Eng side, Rankin should work hard to regain his place in the side just like any other Eng born players do. Going back to Ireland would be a backward step for Rankin himself and those players who finally got their chances for the place that Rankin vacated.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | May 27, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    Competiton for an England test place is quite high in county cricket among the seamers. Apart from Anderson and Broad, the likes of Jordan, Roland-Jones, Plunkett, Meaker, Shazad, Barker, Finn have all impressed, and Onions and Mills are currently injured (though I doubt Mills is close to ready), and Tremlett and Bresnan are there as well. It'll be tough for Rankin to earn his place back. However a big, tall, fast bowler is very exciting and If Rankin can rediscover his form he may have a chance.

    Personally though I hope Rankin goes back to Ireland. They need him and he needs them. England does not need him. Come on ICC, this is clearly an "exceptional circumstance".

    The biggest obstacle to this imo would not be the ICC, the ECB, or Boyd himself, but Warwickshire. Wasn't it part of his county contract when Ashley Giles coached Warwickshire that he'd have to commit to England? Perhaps with Giles returning to Warwickshire, he may be trapped. I hope not. Best of luck Boyd.

  • POSTED BY on | May 27, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    If Rankin does wish to return to Ireland then good luck to him, I can't imagine England would be that keen to left him go as he was one of the stars for them in ODI Cricket last summer.

    I think you have to write off his test debut to a certain extent as by then clearly half the team wished they were somewhere else and he hadn't had a proper build up to succeed. He has fallen down the pecking order because he has been injured while the likes of Jordan and Finn have been out in the middle taking wickets but a couple of good games and the odd injury and he could be right in the frame.

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  • POSTED BY on | May 27, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    If Rankin does wish to return to Ireland then good luck to him, I can't imagine England would be that keen to left him go as he was one of the stars for them in ODI Cricket last summer.

    I think you have to write off his test debut to a certain extent as by then clearly half the team wished they were somewhere else and he hadn't had a proper build up to succeed. He has fallen down the pecking order because he has been injured while the likes of Jordan and Finn have been out in the middle taking wickets but a couple of good games and the odd injury and he could be right in the frame.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | May 27, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    Competiton for an England test place is quite high in county cricket among the seamers. Apart from Anderson and Broad, the likes of Jordan, Roland-Jones, Plunkett, Meaker, Shazad, Barker, Finn have all impressed, and Onions and Mills are currently injured (though I doubt Mills is close to ready), and Tremlett and Bresnan are there as well. It'll be tough for Rankin to earn his place back. However a big, tall, fast bowler is very exciting and If Rankin can rediscover his form he may have a chance.

    Personally though I hope Rankin goes back to Ireland. They need him and he needs them. England does not need him. Come on ICC, this is clearly an "exceptional circumstance".

    The biggest obstacle to this imo would not be the ICC, the ECB, or Boyd himself, but Warwickshire. Wasn't it part of his county contract when Ashley Giles coached Warwickshire that he'd have to commit to England? Perhaps with Giles returning to Warwickshire, he may be trapped. I hope not. Best of luck Boyd.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | May 27, 2014, 18:59 GMT

    Having made the Eng side, Rankin should work hard to regain his place in the side just like any other Eng born players do. Going back to Ireland would be a backward step for Rankin himself and those players who finally got their chances for the place that Rankin vacated.

  • POSTED BY eggyroe on | May 27, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    So there we have it,player gives up playing for an associate member team,decides to play for a Test Match Team. It appears not to work out,wants to return whence he came.The saying that comes to mind is "You have made your bed ,so lie on it".Players cannot chop and change at their convenience.Once you decide which team you wish to play for that is it,and there should be no chance of a re-consideration.

  • POSTED BY tatactg on | May 27, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    In case of Ed Joyce special dispensation was allowed because he was only short of 1 month of the 4 year waiting period - in case of Rankin it will be 1 year short of a 2 year waiting period.Don't think ICC will allow this and they shouldn't.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 27, 2014, 20:51 GMT

    If Rankin isn't picked to play for Eng this summer then I don't see any reason why he should be prevented from playing for Ire at the WC. However I would say that if he is allowed to play in the WC, as in the case of Ed Joyce he would cease to be available to Eng for future selection.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    Like Ed Joyce returning to Ireland's fold, so should Rankin & Morgan. Doesn't Ireland have any way to incentivise their return? Can attractive Corporate sponsorship help? Are the not such Corporates in Ireland with the intent & resources?

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 0:21 GMT

    Personally I wasn't offended at all when he decided to play for England, but I do think he should come back. Unless England tell him that he's going to get another test chance soon (which seems unlikely), I think he'd be better off being a big fish in a small pond. Ireland certainly do need him; a genuine, experienced fast bowler would be enormous for us.

  • POSTED BY on | May 28, 2014, 4:06 GMT

    @eggyroe, according to this article 'rankin himself has not been consulted on the idea", at this moment, only cricket Ireland has expressed their desire to have Rankin playing for Ireland again not Rankin himself.

  • POSTED BY Masking_Tape on | May 28, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    This should be a lesson for all the Irish players. They need to stop doing this to their team. I think Morgan should come back too. He isn't even playing red ball, which I suppose is the main reason for them to leave Ireland.