ICC World Twenty20 2010 May 17, 2010

A method to England's all-round success

Tough selection calls in the lead-up to the tournament by coach Andy Flower, and captain Paul Collingwood's influence on his team's performance paved the way for England's first global title
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In the end, it was all so simple. The manner in which England secured their maiden global triumph was clinical and comprehensive - a rout to rival those that Australia have themselves inflicted on Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka in their consecutive 50-over World Cup victories. The Australians entered the final boasting 10 wins and a Super Over defeat in their last 11 Twenty20 outings, and yet the scale of England's victory was crushing, with 15% of their overs left unused.

It seems incredible to say it, given the ineptitude of England's history in limited-overs cricket, but this was no fluke, far from it. The parameters of the Twenty20 game may invite the sort of upsets that will rarely, if ever, be seen in the longer forms - as England themselves know from their Netherlands humiliation in 2009 - but the cream still finds a way to rise to the top, and England's triumph was just another result in keeping with the format's short but reliably uniform history.

From Adam Hollioake's Surrey in England's inaugural Twenty20 Cup in 2003, to Mahendra Singh Dhoni's epoch-changing Indians in 2007, to Shane Warne's Rajasthan in 2008 and the Brett Lee-inspired New South Wales in the 2009 Champions League, it's rare that a major tournament doesn't cough up a worthy victor. The wonder is that England have got their act together, so swiftly and so unequivocally, that not even the most churlish observers can quibble with the scale of their achievement.

Rightly, much of the credit has been attributed to England's hard-bitten coach, Andy Flower, a man whose own country, Zimbabwe, was too short in resources ever to challenge for global honours, but who instead took his own limited but assured ability and willed himself to become the No. 1 batsman in the world. His influence is unmistakeable in matters of fitness and dedication, not least in the field, where it's hard to recall a sharper all-round England outfit, but it's the tough selection calls he has made along the way that equipped the team with a killer instinct unmatched in their limited-overs history.

England won the World Twenty20 because they possessed not a single chink in their armour - mentally, physically, and in terms of ploughing through 20 overs without a moment's let-up with either bat or ball. The list of players who were auditioned for this tournament but cast aside is significantly longer than the 30-man preliminary squad that was announced towards the end of the tour of Bangladesh, because Flower cast his net as wide as it could stretch but refused to be swayed by sentiment at any stage of the process. Every decision was made, he insisted, "in the best interests of the England cricket team" - and that included the critical but undeniably controversial introduction of two South African-born openers in Craig Kieswetter and Michael Lumb.

Among the notables who weren't given a look in are two England captains - Andrew Strauss, who stood down of his own volition prior to the 2009 event, and Alastair Cook, whose calamitous leadership in a one-off contest in Centurion last November might well have marked his card in this format for evermore. But perhaps most significantly, there's Samit Patel, the hard-hitting, hard-living allrounder, whose innate talent and lust for a scrap should, by right, have guaranteed him the spinner's berth that was eventually filled by Michael Yardy. Flower, however, couldn't abide his waistline, and a cautionary tale was born.

At the moment of victory, there was only one man to whom the team gravitated, for Collingwood's grounded professionalism has transformed him into the most durable cricketer of his generation. In his own unobtrusive manner, he's become England's heartbeat in all forms of the game

Harsh verdicts have been delivered on members much closer to the inner sanctum than Patel, however. If Jonathan Trott's and Joe Denly's banishments were justified by their efforts as an opening partnership in Sharjah, then Matt Prior's axing in favour of Kieswetter was one of those judgement calls that can only be justified by hindsight. The suspicion among the hierarchy was that Prior's brand of big hitting was simply too predictable for the format - no matter how sweetly timed his cuts and cover drives, a ring of fielders on the off side would stifle his momentum... and by extension the team's.

Owais Shah was another whose qualities paled against some major doubts, in his case to do with his running between the wickets - which in turn spoke of a fallible temperament. And then there was the peculiar case of James Anderson, the attack leader in the eyes of most observers, and the likeliest bowler to deliver inspiration in any given spell. That prospect cut no ice with Flower, however, who viewed him as a bit of a "daisy" (some days he does...) and shelved his whimsical wiles in favour of Ryan Sidebottom's earthier qualities.

Despite his much-publicised injury problems, the spirit with which Sidebottom carried the England attack in his zenith year of 2007-08 had not been forgotten by the management, because as the vanquished Australians inadvertently demonstrated, the possession of a glut of X-Factor cricketers will count for little in this condensed format if there is one particular resource that can be targeted by the opposition. And so it was that, for all the fearsomeness of Dirk Nannes, Shaun Tait and Mitchell Johnson, Michael Clarke had no option but to persevere with Shane Watson's medium pace in the final - three overs for 42 - because he had no viable alternative as a fifth bowler.

Conversely, when Yardy - the Richard Illingworth of nos jours - was spanked for 21 in a single over by David Hussey and Cameron White, Paul Collingwood knew he had a go-to option in Luke Wright, who has appeared to be something of a passenger for the past three years of England's limited-overs development, but who proved to be the embodiment of the "Plan B" that Collingwood had spoken of before the toss. His solitary over of the tournament consisted of five singles and the vital wicket of White. The wonder is that England had bothered to think so deeply about their game plan in the first place.

Like Graham Gooch's 1992 World Cup team, which was unique at the time for possessing a first-class centurion in every position from 1 to 11, England's fluidity of options was their trump card in this tournament. The emergence of Eoin Morgan took pressure off Kevin Pietersen as the kingpin of the middle order, and while Collingwood had a quiet tournament, it was gratifying to watch him relax into the elder statesman role that, like a latter-day Allan Border, he never once courted but eventually rather enjoyed.

At the moment of victory, there was only one man to whom the team gravitated, for Collingwood's grounded professionalism has transformed him into the most durable cricketer of his generation, and no one could be more deserving of all the accolades that will flood his way in the coming weeks. In his own unobtrusive manner, he's become England's heartbeat in all forms of the game, the unlikeliest heir imaginable to the last great English "talisman".

Remember Andrew Flintoff? Incredibly, no one this side of the St Lucia marina has given him a second thought in the past fortnight. Not only have England scaled unprecedented heights in his absence, they've done so with an ethos that makes you question whether he would ever have made the cut in the first place. "Who needs Fred when you've got Tim Bresnan?" is the message being projected by the Flower and Collingwood regime. It sounds absurd, but then, two weeks ago, so too was the prospect of England becoming world champions.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo

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  • POSTED BY on | May 20, 2010, 22:11 GMT

    for the billionth time.. this is freaking T20!.. its not a world cup.. a world cup incorporates alot more..

    England will fail miserably in the 50 over world cup. That is almost certain!..

    Unless the south africans perform, the english are no where!

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 20, 2010, 10:17 GMT

    DazTaylor Mils moved here when he was 2, Rodney So'oialo 6, New Zealand bred at least. The only embarrasment is the English team, but hey what ever you have to do to win.

  • POSTED BY epochery on | May 19, 2010, 23:12 GMT

    I would love to think that England will build on this and win well in our home tests before the ashes. I am still no convinced England can win in Australia. Our bowling misses an express pace bowler in the mould of Steyn and an anchor in the middle order in the mould of Kallis, maybe they can qualify in time! Only kidding. I hope England will learn their lessons from cardiff and headingly last year and remember that they will need to be on their game for 15 sessions and that it only takes one bad decision to give the Aussies their chance. Englnd clearly has a large pool of players to choose from as the t20 has shown with players such as Morgan and keiswetter pushing for considerations as well as players such as Denley and moore amongst others. It looks like the structural changes that have hapened in the last ten years or so in English Domestic cricket are reaping rewards.

  • POSTED BY epochery on | May 19, 2010, 22:50 GMT

    This petty jealousy is very irritating. Yes England have a number of players who weren't born in England but lets actually look at the facts. Do the English heirachy search the world for potential players, no. The fact is young cricketers see England as the place to go to develop their game which consequentially means that if they are good enough and are qualified gives them an opportunity to play international cricket. Australia on the other hand does actively search the world for athletes when it comes to Olympic sports and they have had their fair share of foreign born players represent them in cricket. I would also like to add that only Pieterson and Trott have actually had their developing years in South Africa the others such as Strauss came to england as a child others simply came to england as teenagers to learn the game as they had origins in england/ Europe or in the case of players such as Shah, their families had migrated to England.

  • POSTED BY chandau on | May 19, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    @uknsaunders - lol. So Bopara was born in England ! that did not stop him claiming about his Indian origins during the IPL !!! Dont know much abt Lumb, only heard of him only 'cos of IPL. Both KP and K'wetter played their junior cricket in SA. In fact there was a mild protest from CSA over his selection. You seem to have selective memory mate - MORGAN played for Ireland before switching to England. Dimitri M played school cricket in Sri Lanka. Someone had posted an "imports XI". Just accept the fact mate: without the imports ENGLAND are an average team. Of course you need a South African to lead the Test team as well :) lol lol lol. what i fail to understand is why people like Rob Key, Napier, Foster, et.al. cant find a place in your best XV? Also do read the full comment instead of selecting areas that you know of mate :) England were the most consistent team on the day. We shall see how good they are come WC 2011 in AsIA. cheers :)

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | May 19, 2010, 18:56 GMT

    Gagg - "all born and bred in NZ". Er no. Your current squad: Mils Muliaina was born in Samoa. Sitiveni Sivivatu born in Fiji and was even capped by Pacific Islanders. Rodney So'oialo born in Samoa. And there are loads of further examples from previously capped players.

    Oh dear, kind of ruined your argument there. As for saying SA etc - Andrew Symonds is English, Dirk Nannes capped by Holland, Kepler Wessels played for Australia, George Gregan is Zimbabwean and these just from memory.

    So,please, for the love of God, engage your brain prior to embarrassing yourself further.

    Thank you.

  • POSTED BY sanjeevmukherjee2006 on | May 19, 2010, 16:07 GMT

    well i find the arguments that most of the players of England are of foreign origins give me a break most of them have stayed in England for many years so they are UK citizens simple well if a player is of pakistan or indian origin and if he is talented still not given a chance then that is not doing justice to his talent so please folks dont criticize that most of the English players are not from UK. I am an Indian and right now England are number one is tests for simple reason they defeated Australia in the Ashes and they defeated SA in SA and AUS AND SA are two of the best test teams, they are number one in T20 by winning the T20 WC and they are not that far in ODI as well, though tehy lost to Aus but they beat SA in ODI series, England won T20 WC for simple reason they picked 5 regular bowlers, their bowling is good they have good pace attack and equally good spin attack which AUS does not have. Aus should have sent Michael Hussey may be one down or two down in the final of T20 wc

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 19, 2010, 15:52 GMT

    Trapper439 "The NZ rugby team has many Pacific Islanders in it" all born and bred in NZ, if you didn't know there are more people with Samoan blood in NZ than Samoa.

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 19, 2010, 14:24 GMT

    Of course there is a method, all they need is a few SA bowlers and they will be world beaters, England are a joke and personally and as much as it pains me to say but Australia won the 20/20 cup in my eyes.

  • POSTED BY Bollo on | May 19, 2010, 14:13 GMT

    close to a quarter of a century since the Poms won a `live` test in Australia...and counting. Bring it on boys.

  • POSTED BY on | May 20, 2010, 22:11 GMT

    for the billionth time.. this is freaking T20!.. its not a world cup.. a world cup incorporates alot more..

    England will fail miserably in the 50 over world cup. That is almost certain!..

    Unless the south africans perform, the english are no where!

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 20, 2010, 10:17 GMT

    DazTaylor Mils moved here when he was 2, Rodney So'oialo 6, New Zealand bred at least. The only embarrasment is the English team, but hey what ever you have to do to win.

  • POSTED BY epochery on | May 19, 2010, 23:12 GMT

    I would love to think that England will build on this and win well in our home tests before the ashes. I am still no convinced England can win in Australia. Our bowling misses an express pace bowler in the mould of Steyn and an anchor in the middle order in the mould of Kallis, maybe they can qualify in time! Only kidding. I hope England will learn their lessons from cardiff and headingly last year and remember that they will need to be on their game for 15 sessions and that it only takes one bad decision to give the Aussies their chance. Englnd clearly has a large pool of players to choose from as the t20 has shown with players such as Morgan and keiswetter pushing for considerations as well as players such as Denley and moore amongst others. It looks like the structural changes that have hapened in the last ten years or so in English Domestic cricket are reaping rewards.

  • POSTED BY epochery on | May 19, 2010, 22:50 GMT

    This petty jealousy is very irritating. Yes England have a number of players who weren't born in England but lets actually look at the facts. Do the English heirachy search the world for potential players, no. The fact is young cricketers see England as the place to go to develop their game which consequentially means that if they are good enough and are qualified gives them an opportunity to play international cricket. Australia on the other hand does actively search the world for athletes when it comes to Olympic sports and they have had their fair share of foreign born players represent them in cricket. I would also like to add that only Pieterson and Trott have actually had their developing years in South Africa the others such as Strauss came to england as a child others simply came to england as teenagers to learn the game as they had origins in england/ Europe or in the case of players such as Shah, their families had migrated to England.

  • POSTED BY chandau on | May 19, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    @uknsaunders - lol. So Bopara was born in England ! that did not stop him claiming about his Indian origins during the IPL !!! Dont know much abt Lumb, only heard of him only 'cos of IPL. Both KP and K'wetter played their junior cricket in SA. In fact there was a mild protest from CSA over his selection. You seem to have selective memory mate - MORGAN played for Ireland before switching to England. Dimitri M played school cricket in Sri Lanka. Someone had posted an "imports XI". Just accept the fact mate: without the imports ENGLAND are an average team. Of course you need a South African to lead the Test team as well :) lol lol lol. what i fail to understand is why people like Rob Key, Napier, Foster, et.al. cant find a place in your best XV? Also do read the full comment instead of selecting areas that you know of mate :) England were the most consistent team on the day. We shall see how good they are come WC 2011 in AsIA. cheers :)

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | May 19, 2010, 18:56 GMT

    Gagg - "all born and bred in NZ". Er no. Your current squad: Mils Muliaina was born in Samoa. Sitiveni Sivivatu born in Fiji and was even capped by Pacific Islanders. Rodney So'oialo born in Samoa. And there are loads of further examples from previously capped players.

    Oh dear, kind of ruined your argument there. As for saying SA etc - Andrew Symonds is English, Dirk Nannes capped by Holland, Kepler Wessels played for Australia, George Gregan is Zimbabwean and these just from memory.

    So,please, for the love of God, engage your brain prior to embarrassing yourself further.

    Thank you.

  • POSTED BY sanjeevmukherjee2006 on | May 19, 2010, 16:07 GMT

    well i find the arguments that most of the players of England are of foreign origins give me a break most of them have stayed in England for many years so they are UK citizens simple well if a player is of pakistan or indian origin and if he is talented still not given a chance then that is not doing justice to his talent so please folks dont criticize that most of the English players are not from UK. I am an Indian and right now England are number one is tests for simple reason they defeated Australia in the Ashes and they defeated SA in SA and AUS AND SA are two of the best test teams, they are number one in T20 by winning the T20 WC and they are not that far in ODI as well, though tehy lost to Aus but they beat SA in ODI series, England won T20 WC for simple reason they picked 5 regular bowlers, their bowling is good they have good pace attack and equally good spin attack which AUS does not have. Aus should have sent Michael Hussey may be one down or two down in the final of T20 wc

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 19, 2010, 15:52 GMT

    Trapper439 "The NZ rugby team has many Pacific Islanders in it" all born and bred in NZ, if you didn't know there are more people with Samoan blood in NZ than Samoa.

  • POSTED BY StevieS on | May 19, 2010, 14:24 GMT

    Of course there is a method, all they need is a few SA bowlers and they will be world beaters, England are a joke and personally and as much as it pains me to say but Australia won the 20/20 cup in my eyes.

  • POSTED BY Bollo on | May 19, 2010, 14:13 GMT

    close to a quarter of a century since the Poms won a `live` test in Australia...and counting. Bring it on boys.

  • POSTED BY A_Sekar on | May 19, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    I hope for England's sake let this be the beginning of KP's rise to summit form. Being the only superstar in the best team, he will have to keep up his tempo. I have no doubt and whatever little we saw of him, I think by his own standards he is capable of scaling much greater heights.He is one batsman who looks capable of scoring a minimum of 50 in a 20-20 game, a 100 in a one day game and a 150-plus in a test match. I want to see how much heights he would be able to scale in the coming Ashes series. That will be his true test. Our best wishes are there for him, because he is a lovely batsman to watch when in full flow where he reduces all bowlers to their level of mediocrity.

  • POSTED BY kattja on | May 19, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    A friendly piece of advice for all the experts, who are now predicting yahoo scenario for England in their tour Downunder! Playing the Aussies on their home turf is going to be an entirely new ball game comparing to 20/20 world cup, where luck plays a huge role! So before you start uncorking the champagne, better to wait and watch!!!

  • POSTED BY bingobob on | May 19, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    Lets not forget. If it didn't rain in their game against Ireland, England would not have even made it into the super 8's. Fact of the matter is that Australia are mentally weak these days. They showed it in the ashes and they showed it here. As an Australian fan I find this irritating and upsetting.

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | May 19, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    You really think its an English team? Half the players are not English. KP, Kieswetter, Lumb, Shah to name a few! Its like a World IX team! I would say well done England when an all- English side lifts the trophy!

  • POSTED BY Pablo123 on | May 19, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    uhhhhh BillyCC, you mentioned that SA is the only top side now to have not won a ICC cup in the last 35 years - SA won the champions trophy in 1998.

  • POSTED BY binkaf on | May 19, 2010, 8:03 GMT

    A nice one! Really England was probably only one regular Test playing nation in the tournament with only one superstar i.e. Kevin Pietersen whereas other nations were star studded but eventually England went on to win the coveted Trophy. Great, well done England! & well done A. Flower as well for his foresighted decision making which was paid off to its maximum. Even I was upset by the omission of the likes of Prior and O. Shah as I then thought without these two how can an English T20 side be complete, but all went incredibly fine. Kieswetter, Yardy, Bresnen did play their part and played well enough to prove Flower right. Though not performed to his potential, Collingwood was inspirational and KP as only superstar of the team showed all why he's rated so high in world cup. Summing up, a wonderful and much much deserved Triumph for England.

  • POSTED BY Trapper439 on | May 19, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    @asillypoint: If you listen to George Gregan (who grew up in the same suburb as me in Australia), Willy Mason, or Michael Klim speak you'll hear an Australian accent. The NZ rugby team has many Pacific Islanders in it, I notice you don't have a problem with that (I don't). England are entitled to select whoever they want. They did invent the game afterall. @wildnaphtha: "Australianism=Fascism"??!! Wow, that's a new one, even for these forums. Get over your anti-Aussie prejudice, mate.

  • POSTED BY Kulaputra on | May 19, 2010, 1:54 GMT

    This article is very incisive and thought provking. I think dropping Matt Prior and selecting Craig Kieswetter was truly a very analytical move and I guess is laudable. The telling point is that there was a plan B when Yardi did not fire. I guess Dhoni was not backed by inspirational selection like recognising that it was Uthappa and not Yuvraj getting sixes on shorter grounds. I guess more selection power is due to Gary. T20 has only 120 balls per innings and hence selectors have to consider a lot more things while selecting unlike the test matches. Past reputation seems to count for little here and Mr. Flower seems to have recognised that.

    Take a bow, Andy Flower. If England throw you out for any reason, you are welcome to work in my company.

  • POSTED BY yescharny on | May 19, 2010, 1:42 GMT

    Even as an Australian, I can't help but admore the grit of England. They are a wonderful cricket team and eminently more likeable than the Aussie. Flower and Collingwood should well be praised, as should the surprise packets of the tournament in Bresnan, Yardy and the affable Sidebottom. Well done England, although the challenge as it has so often been for the home country will be to repeat the dose at major tournaments, and generally win consistently.

    I eagerly await the Ashes, perhaps we will see a hard-nosed England team that rarely appears on antipodean soil.

  • POSTED BY uknsaunders on | May 18, 2010, 23:39 GMT

    @chandau - Bopara was born in Forest Gate, London. He's English, nothing else. Lumb was born in SA but his father played for Yorkshire, and he's been playing/living in Eng for 10 years at least. He might have been born in South Africa but his parents are English, his dad played for Yorkshire for 20 years for gods sake, and he has played all his professional cricket bar the IPL in England. How is he not English? Plus if its "systems" and "educations" your after then surely having a Yorkshire pro as a dad and coming through at Headingly makes him pretty English too. Plus Kiewswetter and Pietersen although unfortunately lumbered with South african second names have English mums and in Kieswetter's case an English education.

    I could keep repeating posts, or we could talk cricket, not immigration laws, and accept England were the best team...

  • POSTED BY Shaqiq1 on | May 18, 2010, 22:06 GMT

    The method in which England outplayed Australia was remarkable. Though it took them a score and half to win an international award, i believe they always possessed the winning ability in but needed a touch of magic for it to work out. Three hearty cheers to England and i'm eagerly awaiting to witness the Ashes, which i'm sure England would return back with the trophy, outsmarting the aussies once again.

  • POSTED BY Domzo on | May 18, 2010, 20:59 GMT

    "Bopara is Indian"

    This would be the Ravi Bopara born in Forest Gate, London, yes? Obviously a bit of India I've never heard of.

  • POSTED BY vichan on | May 18, 2010, 20:32 GMT

    @chandau - you said "Bopara is Indian"...I suppose that makes Chanderpaul and Sarwan Indian too, eh?! As an Englishman of Asian ancestry, I resent comments like this. Do not confuse skin colour with nationality.

  • POSTED BY nafzak on | May 18, 2010, 20:10 GMT

    Whoop dee doody doo! It's a 20/20 trophy folks. Congrats to England for winning an ICC trophy, but come on, it's not on par with the ashes nor the ODI World Cup. They played this last year & Pak won didn't they? Why did they have to defend so quickly? Will Eng have to defend this trophy next year? Let's see how Eng plays against Aus in teh next Ashes series they if they win, they should celebrate.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 20:09 GMT

    they invented cricket and after all these years they finally win a major tournament but who does it for them? thats right plenty of foreigners. where are the english men in england?

    peiterson, kieswetter, mike lumb, ed joyce, ravi bopara, monty panesar, amjad khan, sajid mahmood, morgan, adil rashid, ahmad shahzad

    just imagine that being the playing eleven.

  • POSTED BY ian_ghose on | May 18, 2010, 19:46 GMT

    Well done England!!Well done Collie! Thoroughly deserved winners. As usual we have our sour graped Indians ranting about 'foreign players contributing to England's success'. One specimen even goes as far as claiming Bopara to be one of his own. Maybe the Indians should also start including South Africans of Indian origin in their team. Who knows..they might win 'India' something....because 11 Indians can't...lol!!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    Congrats to the English team not only for winning the cup, but also winning consistently throughout the tournament. Hope their first world cup win brings cricket to the second most followed sport in England.

  • POSTED BY CiMP on | May 18, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    Congratulations England! Well done to beat the old enemy! The euphoria of England team supporters and fans is understandable! This article would have been very impressive had it laid bare the strategies of Andy Flower and Paul Collingwood before the Final atleast! To eulogise Collingwood as a latter-day Allan Border and drag in the name of Freddie Flintoff in vain, appears to me a bit going overborad.

    (This comment need not be published, if you do not wish to)

  • POSTED BY vineetphysics2006 on | May 18, 2010, 18:58 GMT

    congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!...........england for its first major title .....poor show by oz hats off to kp

  • POSTED BY batukbihari on | May 18, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    The English team deserved to win. They have been playing as a team throughout the tournament and were the only worthy rivals of Australia. Moreover, unlike aussies who come out as arrogant on ocassions, the englishmen have been warm and friendly.

    Cheers mates and enjoy the success !! You deserve it !!

    PS: Wish Indian team could have behaved a bit like them :(

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | May 18, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    @ Dearie_and_Me What is wrong with the English media getting behind the team when they've won their first world champs,you obviously didn't read the news when the Pakistanis and the Indians won far more media coverage than the English press. It seems a s well that you didn't actually watch the final with that comment about not a single chink in their armour and been 2 down in the 2nd over,well they got 1 wicket Lumb in the 2nd over then that was it until Pietersen got out for 113 in the 13 over.Too many people feel the need to come on sites like this for moan and show they are truly bad losers and make themselves look plonkers.

  • POSTED BY chandau on | May 18, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    For all the crowing about ENGLAND winning a major tournament, one has to look at the team to see how "ENGLISH" it is!!! Lumb, K'wetter, KP are all South Africans, Morgan is Irish, Bopara is Indian ..... Nevertheless they played consistent cricket throughout and was better than Australia who seem to chose badly despite the abundance of talent. Clarke is no T20 player and a Hopes or Symonds would have done wonders to them in the middle. Also to say Flower was in a team short of resources is an insult to players like Neil Jhonson, Heath Streak, Murray Goodwin, Sean Erwine, Graham Flower, Ali Campbell, et.wl., who were top class cricketers.

  • POSTED BY MikeLea on | May 18, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    Good comment below about Michael Clarke. It was a refreshing change to see an Australian captain accept defeat with grace, honesty and humility. It is possible to be a combative and driven leader without being a bad loser.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    Yeah its a great performance from the English cricket team.....

  • POSTED BY cricketdebator on | May 18, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    From the time England scored 190 odd against us in the preliminary round, I told my fellow West Indies supporters that England looked like the only team capable of stopping the Aussies from winning the Tournament, and I am really happy to see that they have proved me right. What is most surprising (and pleasing) about this English team is their seemingly new-found attitude towards the game. No longer are we seeing English batsmen whose first inclination at the wicket is merely to survive and not get out. Instead, we are seeing them looking to attack from the word go, and this in my opinion has been a key component to the team's success in recent times. No praise is to great for the way England have played in this Tournament, and like most pundits, I look forward with much interest to their next assignment down under later this year. In the meantime, my heartiest CONGRATULATIONS go to Collingwood and his team for their fine acheivement.

  • POSTED BY CiMP on | May 18, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    Duncan Fletcher (Zim) coached England to win the Ashes in 2005. Andy Flower (Zim) coached them to win a ICC event T20. Who will be the next coach from Zimbabwe to help England win the Ashes in Australia?

  • POSTED BY KingOwl on | May 18, 2010, 16:29 GMT

    There is indeed a method to England's success: Hire as many foreigners as possible! The winning attitude is a result of the culture change in the team coming from the foreigners. Is this a real England team? I definitely don't think so. Simply, if it doesn't feel like an England team, it most likely is not. If India brought back all of the Indian origin players from the West Indies, England, etc., they probably would be a better team too. But would that make them a real Indian team? No way.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    England's squad has been brilliant through out the T20 world cup....and they were really deserving to be T20 world champion.....we should not forget the strongest think tank of England team....their most brave decisions...their overall game planning...andy flower...who was excellent cricketer and now emerging cricket coach....kevin has again proved his class...he is really sensational to watch....i think hats-off to England.........

  • POSTED BY Manush on | May 18, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    At last England won a major game and it is nice to see Pietersen as usual in the centre of appreciation and attraction. He is a classic example of catching the bull by the horn. His confidence and ability to counter attack any kind of bowler when it is required makes him as one of the best cricketers in the modern days game. His counter punch of Steyn Johnson and Tait was a treat to watch, hitting them all over the park.Reminded me of the one over where Glen McGrath was treated like an ordinary county bowler in the Ashes series . In the recent times Sachin, Kallis, Mike Hussy, Pietersen and Dravid proved Class is permanent. Finally it was a good realization by Strauss to stand out of the way in the shorter versions.Good show by England after a very long time

  • POSTED BY Dearie_and_Me on | May 18, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    Again. You are carrying on like this is the start of a new era for English cricket. Whilst it may be, winning one ICC competition does not mean the team is great One only needs to look at New Zealand's triumph in the 2000 Champions trophy to realise that a team needs to become a consistant performer to get the accolades that are being heaped upon this English outfit. We shall see how they fare in the longer forms of the game before this cricket fan becomes 'worshippers' of the English team. Most likely this success will go to their heads and they'll fail miserably (2007 Ashes anyone?) - they haven't "emerged" quite yet. Oh the Collingwood led team did amazingly don't get me wrong - its the quickness that the media and fans about face that bugs me. I have yet to see the term 'best english side ever' being written but I doubt that it isn't far away. Now about the spelling of Apotheosis - check again and grow up

  • POSTED BY PAKIZZ on | May 18, 2010, 15:05 GMT

    IM a PAKISTANI but i like to se the trophy in collingwoods hands becozzzz they deserve it and all the credit goes to KP KP KP KP HE was looking in the start of t20. nevertheless,CONGRATULATIONS ENGLAND MAY U KEEP WINNING AND MAKE YOURE COUNTRY PROUD OF U. GOOD LUCK ENGLAND NEXT TIME

  • POSTED BY CricketMaan on | May 18, 2010, 13:51 GMT

    A very similar sentiment and reaction from media just as they did after India won 2007 event. England thouroughly deserve all accolades, for they have not only won a world tournament in 35 years, but how, beating the most formidable T20 unit we have seen in few years. BUT a word of caution. A lot of teams win tourneys, especially such big events with lot of hard work and some luck, so did Inida, England...but they simply could not sustain that glory...which Aussies and even Windies in yesteryears could do it with so much ease..Champions are those who could do it time and again in all conditions, in all adversities and till date only Aussies can claim to be the Champions in Cricket..I'm an Indian but when it comes to Cricket i just love the way Aussies play it..though it baffles all why they simply could not master the T20 format, this time i believe its simply coz of thier captain, who is just a 'pup' in the shortest version.

  • POSTED BY asiba on | May 18, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    FOOTBALL WORLD CUP IS NEXT

    Thats all I am going to say for now from a mostly unlikely person to support the English me-ASIBS -THE BUFFALO SOLDIER from Bridgetown Barbados !

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    congrats to south africa a

  • POSTED BY Arthaurian on | May 18, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Congratulations England on the win, you guys played some wonderful t20 cricket and was a pleasure watching you guys. Though it has to be said the Aus' performance with the bat basically gave the game away. Those 3 wickets cost them the game.

  • POSTED BY Ronaldus on | May 18, 2010, 13:27 GMT

    Congrats on a superbly written article Andrew! Somewhat tongue in cheek from time to time methinks, but then what Englishman is going to ignore an opportunity to cock a snoot at an Aussie? The fact remains that the Poms whipped us all because they did their homework better and put together a gameplan that catered for all contingencies. Of course we won't remind them too often that it was thanks to all their South Africans plus a top notch South African coach too! Yes, he played for Zimbabwe but he was born and bred in the Cape Province in South Africa.

  • POSTED BY Arijit_in_TO on | May 18, 2010, 13:02 GMT

    England's opening ball pair were --as some are wont to say-- absolutely brilliant throughout the tournament. They are deserving champions; hope this is a bit of a catalyst to revitalize English cricket at the grassroots. Congratulations England.

  • POSTED BY shak01 on | May 18, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    thanks south africa for developing a top order batting line up for england and ireland for producing a fine middle order batsman to help paper over the fact that the aren't many english born and produced batsman capable of playing at the top level.

  • POSTED BY Lol_the_Hawk on | May 18, 2010, 12:17 GMT

    A terrific tournament, great result for us and a seed change in our one day mentality. Let's tackle a few points 1) Foreign players, if you have an English parent you can choose to play for England....covered....2) Collingwood being called durable is more about the pressure he's faced to stay in the England team rather than extolling him, he's a fighter, has earned every accolade he gets right now....be magnanimous enough to allow him that 3) I personally think that the T20 is well worth winning and the England team has not quite undergone an Apotheosis-note correct spelling - but have emerged from their dreary, conservative shells and we're rejoicing about that as much as anything. Michael Clarke, very magnanimous, congratulations on a great team effort. Pakistan...why can't you play like that all the time? Good luck to you. West Indies...proved they can host a great tournament. Lastly India, Sri Lanka and NZ, you will be back and the 50 over world cup will be better for it!

  • POSTED BY asillypoint on | May 18, 2010, 12:04 GMT

    Woody111, have a look in your own back yard. Australian rugby union players from all parts of the globe - including New Zealand. Where on earth do you think George Gregan was born? Rugby league internationals from New Zealand. Swimmers from overseas and let's not forget the Australian weightlifting team or winter Olympic skiers. So you must " struggle to support Aus if the majority of its team had basically 'just got off the boat' from elsewhere". Personally, "I'd also worry about opportunities for young players in my country". Stop being hypocritical and a very poor looser.For the record, Gregan was born in Zimbabwe, Willie Mason New Zealand (along with many more), Michael Klim in Poland. Enjoy the game, it is after all, a game.

  • POSTED BY SuperSharky on | May 18, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    Napoleon wasn't born in France and Hitler wasn't born in Germany either. And it's got nothing to do about cricket anyway.

  • POSTED BY SuperSharky on | May 18, 2010, 11:05 GMT

    Well Done England. You've been professional and brilliant. Andy Flower and the rest of the African-born players and rest of the squad, produced a spark controlled by Collingwood to perfection. As a South African, I am proud to say that our education is English. And it was Mother-England who taught the Africans the game back in the old days. These days it's easy to travel the Globe and therefore you belong to the country you live in. The one where you spent your life and shares the everyday culture. Not the country where you were born. That's irrelevant, if your bread and butter comes from your new owners. And a lot of South African's forefathers were English. We don't want to talk about South Africa wasting talent, rather praise Collingwood for spotting talent (the right ingredients) and blending his troopers ( Lumb, Kieswetter, Pietersen, Morgan (Irish Flavour), Sidebottom, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Yardy and Wright) into World up Winners.

  • POSTED BY not-fan-but-fanatic on | May 18, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    i think the team selection was the best part in the campaign....to drop cook,trott was an awesome decision....not that thy are not good enough but jus that to win major tournament its not the best 11 but the best combination.....i think its more about momentum and cook and trott at the top of the order is jus too defensive.....lets not forget tat this is not jus the 1st world cup for england,but also for one of the best batsmen ever andy flower who i think cud have bcum another legend if he was born in anyother country,......thanks england for not letting aussies win....

  • POSTED BY Herbet on | May 18, 2010, 10:26 GMT

    How come Michael Lumb is suddenly as South African as Nelson Mandela? He might have been born in South Africa but his parents are English, his dad played for Yorkshire for 20 years for gods sake, and he has played all his professional cricket bar the IPL in England. How is he not English? Plus if its "systems" and "educations" your after then surely having a Yorkshire pro as a dad and coming through at Headingly makes him pretty English too. Plus Kiewswetter and Pietersen although unfortunately lumbered with South african second names have English mums and in Kieswetter's case an English education. Anyway it was nice to see fat boy Watson shown up in the final, can't stand the whinging pie chucker.

  • POSTED BY Dearie_and_Me on | May 18, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    I'm sorry but this is ridiculous.

    This was the reason I didn't want England to win - their media. Shit you would think they actually won something worth winning or that one world title makes up for decades of abysmal performances. But no they are the "cream" of the cricketing crop! And to call Collingwood "the most durable cricketer of his generation" is perhaps the worst use of superlative I have ever seen. And I'll bet no one was muttering the words "not a single chink in their armour" when they were two down in the second over. Cricinfo you are horribly biased. I understnad your jubilation as your team has won (quite how good a T20I trophy is i don't know) but please the team hasn't quite undergone apotheosis yet.

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | May 18, 2010, 8:58 GMT

    i'm an indian, but i am happy to see england winning the ICC trophy, they really deserved this time. KP is gr8, i like to watch EOIN morgan, he has gr8 talent, looking morgan playing i remember yuvraj sing though he lost form currently. his style is similar to yuvraj and he eqaully good in timing the ball, in addition morgan has some interesting reverse hits as well. i was really bored of aussies domination on this sport though they r brilliant.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 8:37 GMT

    Kevin Pietersen was simply awesome. Congratulations England!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 8:35 GMT

    Kevin Pietersen was simply awesome. Congratulations England!

  • POSTED BY Woody111 on | May 18, 2010, 7:57 GMT

    Classic writing! It has the self-depracating English modesty mixed with the deliriously over-stated. '15% of their overs left unused' - haha; this is 20/20 my friend. 3 fifths of 5 eigths is f all. I hope the Poms get worked up over this; bring on the Ashes.

  • POSTED BY Woody111 on | May 18, 2010, 7:46 GMT

    @ landl47. I don't think it's so much about people being born abroad as much as people living the bulk of their lives away from the country they go on to represent. Being Australian we've rarely had test (couldn't care less who played for Aus in limited overs - fill the team with New Zealanders for all I care) players from othere countries. Yes England were a very good team because of balance but that's not the argument here. I don't doubt KP loves playing for England and I'll never understand why he isn't playing for South Africa, but I'd struggle to support Aus if the majority of its team had basically 'just got off the boat' from elsewhere. I'd also worry about opportunities for young players in my country and wonder why they're not good enough to play at the top level. Where do we go with that? Are there no other English county players good enough for England? What about in 10 years time? Will you have to approach players overseas and ask them to emigrate? Not sustainable I feel.

  • POSTED BY rtom on | May 18, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    well, players who are successful in 20-20 does not mean that they will also be successful in other formats of the game. Yes, england has very good side but will the smae set of players perform in the loger format of the game ?

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 7:20 GMT

    Well done England!!! I knew it from the first match they played against the Windies that they were in strong contention to lift this Cup! It was shambolic that they lost that first match due to rain and a stupid calculation! It was a true all-round performance, and not a star-studded affair as most subcontinent teams rely on! @wildnaphtha: "Australianism" is still alive and kicking. Did you forget the semis? Even Collingwood agreed that even after 8/3, they were still not ready to step of the gas remembering what Aus did to Pak. Aus put mortal fear into any outfit, and for that they deserve the tag, no matter what anyone cares to say. @Prasanna - Just coz u live in a village and the world's going global, doesn't mean you rant and rave. You screamed with delight when Kalpana Chawla and Sunita Williams went to space, forgetting they were naturalised American citizens. Face it, India lost, and badly. Bask in the glory, England - you deserve it!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    I don't know why people are crying about the induction of foreign players in to English team. All the countries like Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, were colonies of England and they still recognize Queen of England as their soverign, of course these countries do have thier own political system but they are a member of common wealth and they are actually european in lineage. So i personally believe that this fuss about KP ,Kieswetter, Morgan etc playing for England should be considered as an utter sour graping.

  • POSTED BY BillyCC on | May 18, 2010, 7:04 GMT

    Of course, the other way to look at this victory is simply this: ENGLAND WERE DUE FOR A VICTORY! Let's face it, England have never won anything in the shorter forms of cricket. It now leaves only South Africa as the only major team not having won a major trophy (World Cup, Champions Trophy) in the past 35 years (although to be fair, South Africa have only competed in the last 20 years). So really, we can say that England had some luck in the tournament (which they did) and they had some good form, and capitalised on both to win.

  • POSTED BY Harry0009 on | May 18, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    I think Cricket translates beyond country, religion, politics. caste, creed, color etc. When cricket is a passion, it does not matter which country you belong to, you support the best team without undermining the fact that you will be very much hurt when your team does not perform as well as the favorites.

    Eng truly deserve this win for they have been very professional, and consistent throughout the tournament. No team has been able to score more than 150 against them which itself is an impeccable record for the team across the world cups. They have played excellent all round, and rightly so deserve this title. Even Aussies have been caught off guard against 3 teams but those teams let it slip away while Eng emerged victorious.

    I am a staunch Indian supporter bcoz I know India's talent is far better than what was on display during this World Cup. Short ball and IPLs are excuses but the truth is the lack of commitment, passion, and pride to play for country. That really hurts!!

  • POSTED BY Harry0009 on | May 18, 2010, 5:56 GMT

    I think Cricket translates beyond country, religion, politics. caste, creed, color etc. When cricket is a passion, it does not matter which country you belong to, you support the best team without undermining the fact that you will be very much hurt when your team does not perform as well as the favorites.

    Eng truly deserve this win for they have been very professional, and consistent throughout the tournament. No team has been able to score more than 150 against them which itself is an impeccable record for the team across the world cups. They have played excellent all round, and rightly so deserve this title. Even Aussies have been caught off guard against 3 teams but those teams let it slip away while Eng emerged victorious.

    I am a staunch Indian supporter bcoz I know India's talent is far better than what was on display during this World Cup. Short ball and IPLs are excuses but the truth is the lack of commitment, passion, and pride to play for country. That really hurts!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    cook ,strassus,trott,bell,shah....i forgot these guys until u mentioned them i wonder what happened to mascherhenas, heard nuthing abt him

  • POSTED BY Fastbowl9 on | May 18, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    England played a fantastic tournament. I wish I could say the same for India and the West India. While Australia's batting left something to be desired, England deserved to win.

    RS Tournament is over get back to work!

  • POSTED BY JogeshPanda on | May 18, 2010, 5:02 GMT

    Andrew, Congratulation on English victory... Yeah it was long pending due but England a world beater a far away. This England team has succeed largely because of KP. His batting was inspirational. KP demolished some of the attack, and catch of Umar Akmal in that match was lifting experience. True, this tournament they were two best team played final and better team on the day won. But a middle order has lot of chink. Even Fast bowling option in a little flatter track is not great.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | May 18, 2010, 3:58 GMT

    As someone born in England who emigrated first to Canada and then to the USA, I find the suggestion that foreign-born players shouldn't be playing for England to be ludicrous. I chose where I wanted to live and work, why shouldn't professional cricketers? England is perfectly within its rights to select the best players qualified to represent it. This is nothing new- let me give you a few others. Ted Dexter, Tony Grieg, Mike Brearley and that most English of cricketers, Colin Cowdrey, were all England captains in the last 50 years and all born abroad. Incidentally, England's strongest suit in this tournament was the bowling, since no team made 150 against it, and none of the bowlers were born abroad. England won because they were the best balanced, best organized and most consistent team in the tournament. Where the players were born had nothing to do with it.

  • POSTED BY Tjoeps on | May 18, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    Well done England! Thank you Andrew for a well written artical. As a South African I do not have issues with some of the boys changing colours, our administration would sell their mothers fot transformation, to instill a love for cricket in people that think if it's not done with a soccer ball, why do it, is madness! I think SA will go on transforming for the next 10 years and then just drop off the face of the earth, sad but true. Go KP, GK and ML, apply your trade where it is apreciated, have great times in English colours! To Paul Collingwood, well done! To a fellow African, go well Andy, Flower Power!

  • POSTED BY TruSport on | May 18, 2010, 2:01 GMT

    @Barmymark - I'm past time to embrace this new look of nationality. These blokes have brought the passion that English cricket to sorely missed. It's fairly atrocious to let English cricket remain in mediocracy. Celebrate the victory I say, its been long acoming to the country of its birth.

  • POSTED BY srivatsan on | May 18, 2010, 1:57 GMT

    Andrew, don't get too carried away. It took England good part of 36 years to win an ICC tournament. That too they won it because Clarke burried Australia's chances. If White had played before Clarke things would have been different. Wait till Ashes!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2010, 1:33 GMT

    @Prasanna Srinivasan - so I assume you do not believe in immigration? Lumb was born in SA but his father played for Yorkshire, and he's been playing/living in Eng for 10 years at least. Morgan was born in Ireland but is very much an Englishman. Deal with it.

  • POSTED BY bharath74 on | May 18, 2010, 1:28 GMT

    congrats England, u deserve it. I am happy that Eng won rather than Australia.

  • POSTED BY uknsaunders on | May 18, 2010, 0:51 GMT

    tallturtle - et all - covers Owais Shah and the injured Mascharanus. I watched most of the tournament and you've named all the english players. Shah did nothing wrong and was harshly treated, Morgan got very limited chances and perhaps the IPL need to restrict the number of overseas "bench warmers" in future and get the best players playing.

    Cricfan78 - I did say "for a while anyway" - I'm not kidding myself, but it does mean something and we have proved something to ourselves if not to the cricket world.

    Bit disappointed by comments and articles (Agnew for one) going on about South African players. Let's get this right, they have decided to play for England and qualified using ICC rules, end of story. I was watching in a Pub in Leeds and all the people could go on about was that Lumb was a Yorkshireman!. It's a stupid English trait that we have to complain that we didn't win fairly and knock a great performance.

  • POSTED BY dave_67 on | May 17, 2010, 23:12 GMT

    Typically predictable & ignorant mutterings about the origins of the England team from some people posting on this thread...funny how nobody used to make an issue about players like Lamb,Hick,Robin Smith,not to mention the likes of Chris Lewis,GladstoneSmall,Phil De Freitas etc - could it be because none of those players won an international competition? Now we've got some silverware it's suddenly not an indigenous England team! So, Mr.Prasanna, do you think players like Shah,Bopara and Rashid shouldn't be allowed to play for England...or is it just the 'Saffas' like Lumb & Kieswetter you object to? Welcome to the world of globalisation and do let me know what constitutes an Englishman in your narrow minded and out of date book of rules...

  • POSTED BY CricketingStargazer on | May 17, 2010, 21:51 GMT

    uknsaunders, I was making a similar point, as were many others. Of the England players who were in the IPL auction, most were not even bid for and players like Eoin Morgan who did get picked were only occasionals for their sides. The clear implication was that they were simply not good enough to be worth a place against the best; maybe it is true, but it is also true that they were willing to play their hearts out for their national side when there was only pride as the prize rather than millions of dollars.

    It's hard to believe that Fred Flintoff has been forgotten so fast. He was supposed to play in Bangladesh, but seems to have vanished without trace. Jimmy Anderson has gone from leader of the attack to finding his place under threat (Finn, Bresnan, Onions, Sidebottom, Broad and Anderson do not all fit into the Test side). It is obvious that reputations are beginning to count for little in selection. Beat Bangladesh & Pakistan well and the prize lies on the horizon in Australia.

  • POSTED BY CricFan78 on | May 17, 2010, 21:32 GMT

    uknsaunders 3 champions in under 3 yrs .... it just proves anyone can win this T20 WC. So yea before you get on to your superior Brit bandwagon you need to realise that this win actually proves nothing.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    THEME OF T20 2010: Either win like England or Lose like India! Lot of improvement needed in Indian cricket! Money and publicity are not enough to win games!

  • POSTED BY YogifromNY on | May 17, 2010, 20:29 GMT

    Well done, England. Well done, Andy Flower! As an Indian supporter following the final, I was thrilled by how England clinically demolished Australia. Usually, that sentence reads backward, as in 'Australia clinically demolished X (put in the team name)'. Surely England are now favorites to go on to even greater heights in other formats of the game as well? I see them scrapping to the top of the heap in ODIs and in Tests too, in the next one or two years.

    India's reign at the top in Test cricket's going to be short-lived, for three reasons: 1) its Board's short-sighted policies regarding development of pitches, fast bowlers, batsmen who can face the short ball effectively, and fielders who can actually field; 2) the looming retirement of the three remaining greats (Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid); and 3) focus on IPL by the younger players and development of habits, playing or otherwise, that will let them down in the longer formats.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2010, 20:28 GMT

    Yes england played well as a team but sad it is not england but a europr/africaxi . How many players were from england. It is a shame if you have more foreign players than local players. Are we seeing ipl here? 4 foreign players. Time is going to come when england is going to march out with more sa/ireland/ind players than english players

  • POSTED BY barmymark on | May 17, 2010, 19:58 GMT

    There is a great BBC article about this win, the crucial point is that this teams resembles more a South Africa 2nd XI than a true homegrown English team. The key players, Craig Kieswetter, Michael Lumb, Kevin Pietersen and Eoin Morgan (actually played for Ireland against England last time round!) learnt their trade elsewhere and only played for England on what can best be described a technicality.

    It really is a shame and I do feel that I would rather have a mediocre honest perfomance by players who have worked through the ranks in England, than a 'steroid' enhanced team that in all likelyhood only really won because of the 'ringers' the selectors brought in.

    Every other country in the competition knows this to be true, and it definitely takes a substantial gloss off the win.

  • POSTED BY wildnaphtha on | May 17, 2010, 19:38 GMT

    I am very happy for England though I am from India. Well done. Whatever happened to the often misquoted "Australianism"? This phrase almost borders on fascism, as if it is just enough to be Australian to be a winner. On a given day any team can beat any other in T20 and Australia was just not good enough to beat England.

  • POSTED BY tall_turtle on | May 17, 2010, 19:37 GMT

    @uknsaunders: There were quite a few English players in the IPL: Pietersen, Lumb, Morgan, Collingwood et al. That apart, only four foreign (non-Indian) players were allowed to play a match. Bangalore regularly played Pietersen, Kallis and Steyn. There were others like Ross Taylor, Cameron White, Mark Boucher and Steven Smith. Four players were chosen considering the players' reputation at that point of time, and the fact that the team had to be balanced.

  • POSTED BY awassuup on | May 17, 2010, 19:35 GMT

    Congrats to England. They deserve to win the tournament because they played hard and seem to be a well prepared team. If they can keep this group of guys injury free and together, I can even see them winning the 50 over worldcup next year. But please do not get carried away, because Australia is still the best team in the world. For England to be the best team, they have to do what the Aussies are doing, beating everyone and doing it consistently. Good luck to England but be prepared for the Ashes series. Knowing the Aussies, they will want payback .

  • POSTED BY uknsaunders on | May 17, 2010, 18:54 GMT

    I remember posting a reply regarding the IPL, defending englands cricketers against many who said we where not good enough for the IPL spectacle. Well there we go - yes I am smug but in a superior tournament we have proved we are the best - for a while anyway. I wonder whether the IPL Franchises might wake up and and buy a few England cricketers. Bangalore - Morgan on the bench shame on you, but surely Swann, Kieswetter, Wright (under rated in my opinion) and even Bres might be worth a punt in 2011 IPL?

    ps. I had to think hard who had batted 7 for england I couldn't remember many games where Bres batted much and is it a record for a number 10/11 not to have faced a ball in a tournament!

  • POSTED BY MyComments on | May 17, 2010, 17:36 GMT

    I fully agree that this is one the best team England can gathered to win T20 world cup and they did the right selection to make a winning combination. I think with 4 naturalized players Craig Kieswetter, Michael Lumb, Kevin Pietersen and Eoin Morgan, they made a perfect match with the home grown talent, and paved the way for England's first global title. I think they should keep holding on to this and make the right selection in future and their dominance will go a long way, best of luck.

  • POSTED BY getrealforreal on | May 17, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    Andy Flower is one of the most underrated cricket players of our time. This shows how much cricket intelligence this man has even as a coach. I'm not an England fan but I have to say as a fan of cricket this outfit looked solid. And somehow you can't help but like them even when they are steamrolling teams. I guess it's because they lack some of the Aussie tendencies which might not be a bad thing. Congrats Andy, I'm glad the cricket world finally sees your value and you have a stage worthy of displaying it. Being a Sri Lanka cricket loyalist, I guess I can dream of a day when a good coach and a good captain can lead Sri Lanka (or a sub-continent team) to long term dominance without politics interfering the game.

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  • POSTED BY getrealforreal on | May 17, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    Andy Flower is one of the most underrated cricket players of our time. This shows how much cricket intelligence this man has even as a coach. I'm not an England fan but I have to say as a fan of cricket this outfit looked solid. And somehow you can't help but like them even when they are steamrolling teams. I guess it's because they lack some of the Aussie tendencies which might not be a bad thing. Congrats Andy, I'm glad the cricket world finally sees your value and you have a stage worthy of displaying it. Being a Sri Lanka cricket loyalist, I guess I can dream of a day when a good coach and a good captain can lead Sri Lanka (or a sub-continent team) to long term dominance without politics interfering the game.

  • POSTED BY MyComments on | May 17, 2010, 17:36 GMT

    I fully agree that this is one the best team England can gathered to win T20 world cup and they did the right selection to make a winning combination. I think with 4 naturalized players Craig Kieswetter, Michael Lumb, Kevin Pietersen and Eoin Morgan, they made a perfect match with the home grown talent, and paved the way for England's first global title. I think they should keep holding on to this and make the right selection in future and their dominance will go a long way, best of luck.

  • POSTED BY uknsaunders on | May 17, 2010, 18:54 GMT

    I remember posting a reply regarding the IPL, defending englands cricketers against many who said we where not good enough for the IPL spectacle. Well there we go - yes I am smug but in a superior tournament we have proved we are the best - for a while anyway. I wonder whether the IPL Franchises might wake up and and buy a few England cricketers. Bangalore - Morgan on the bench shame on you, but surely Swann, Kieswetter, Wright (under rated in my opinion) and even Bres might be worth a punt in 2011 IPL?

    ps. I had to think hard who had batted 7 for england I couldn't remember many games where Bres batted much and is it a record for a number 10/11 not to have faced a ball in a tournament!

  • POSTED BY awassuup on | May 17, 2010, 19:35 GMT

    Congrats to England. They deserve to win the tournament because they played hard and seem to be a well prepared team. If they can keep this group of guys injury free and together, I can even see them winning the 50 over worldcup next year. But please do not get carried away, because Australia is still the best team in the world. For England to be the best team, they have to do what the Aussies are doing, beating everyone and doing it consistently. Good luck to England but be prepared for the Ashes series. Knowing the Aussies, they will want payback .

  • POSTED BY tall_turtle on | May 17, 2010, 19:37 GMT

    @uknsaunders: There were quite a few English players in the IPL: Pietersen, Lumb, Morgan, Collingwood et al. That apart, only four foreign (non-Indian) players were allowed to play a match. Bangalore regularly played Pietersen, Kallis and Steyn. There were others like Ross Taylor, Cameron White, Mark Boucher and Steven Smith. Four players were chosen considering the players' reputation at that point of time, and the fact that the team had to be balanced.

  • POSTED BY wildnaphtha on | May 17, 2010, 19:38 GMT

    I am very happy for England though I am from India. Well done. Whatever happened to the often misquoted "Australianism"? This phrase almost borders on fascism, as if it is just enough to be Australian to be a winner. On a given day any team can beat any other in T20 and Australia was just not good enough to beat England.

  • POSTED BY barmymark on | May 17, 2010, 19:58 GMT

    There is a great BBC article about this win, the crucial point is that this teams resembles more a South Africa 2nd XI than a true homegrown English team. The key players, Craig Kieswetter, Michael Lumb, Kevin Pietersen and Eoin Morgan (actually played for Ireland against England last time round!) learnt their trade elsewhere and only played for England on what can best be described a technicality.

    It really is a shame and I do feel that I would rather have a mediocre honest perfomance by players who have worked through the ranks in England, than a 'steroid' enhanced team that in all likelyhood only really won because of the 'ringers' the selectors brought in.

    Every other country in the competition knows this to be true, and it definitely takes a substantial gloss off the win.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2010, 20:28 GMT

    Yes england played well as a team but sad it is not england but a europr/africaxi . How many players were from england. It is a shame if you have more foreign players than local players. Are we seeing ipl here? 4 foreign players. Time is going to come when england is going to march out with more sa/ireland/ind players than english players

  • POSTED BY YogifromNY on | May 17, 2010, 20:29 GMT

    Well done, England. Well done, Andy Flower! As an Indian supporter following the final, I was thrilled by how England clinically demolished Australia. Usually, that sentence reads backward, as in 'Australia clinically demolished X (put in the team name)'. Surely England are now favorites to go on to even greater heights in other formats of the game as well? I see them scrapping to the top of the heap in ODIs and in Tests too, in the next one or two years.

    India's reign at the top in Test cricket's going to be short-lived, for three reasons: 1) its Board's short-sighted policies regarding development of pitches, fast bowlers, batsmen who can face the short ball effectively, and fielders who can actually field; 2) the looming retirement of the three remaining greats (Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid); and 3) focus on IPL by the younger players and development of habits, playing or otherwise, that will let them down in the longer formats.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    THEME OF T20 2010: Either win like England or Lose like India! Lot of improvement needed in Indian cricket! Money and publicity are not enough to win games!