England v India, Champions Trophy, final, Edgbaston June 23, 2013

ICC must never betray fans again

The lack of a reserve day for the Champions Trophy final was a huge let-down by the ICC
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So the ICC just got away with it. The rain relented, we had a final to remember, and the fans went home happy. That will be the official view. There may even be some pats on administrators' backs. But it only tells half the story.

Yes, the rain relented, yes, we had a 20-over final to savour, and yes, India, the best team in the tournament, won and their supporters celebrated long into the night.

But the administrators should not get away with it. By staging a final without a reserve day, they messed with the fans and got lucky. They should never be allowed to do so again.

The official explanation is that there were only 17 days to stage the tournament, that there was "no wriggle room", and that bilateral tours take precedence. Are fans really expected to take such an explanation seriously?

You can praise the players for contesting a fluctuating final in difficult conditions. You can listen to people intellectualising about the amount of cricket played, and how difficult it is to cram spare days into the schedule.

You can retreat into comforting jokes about the essential awfulness of the English summer and even speculate that global warming could make it more unbearable than ever. You can listen to thousands of explanations about logistics, about what is possible and what is not.

None of that matters. Do not accept any explanation that you hear. The administrators need to understand that to stage the final of a major one-day tournament without a reserve day is as purblind as it gets.

If you do something, you have to do it properly. If you tell spectators that a tournament is important, and sell TV rights and tickets on that basis, there are basic standards you have to meet to try to bring it to a satisfactory conclusion.

We can all argue incessantly about the details: about how many sides should take part, how the groups should be drawn up, whether to pre-determine semi-final venues for the countries that qualify, how to choose between sides that finish on equal points.

We can argue about one white ball or two, about numbers in circles, whether to allow runners, whether balls can be bounced in to the stumps, how many bouncers in an over.

We can philosophise about whether the Champions Trophy really matters and whether essentially we would be better without it. But not to have a reserve day in a final is nonsense.

A final is what everyone has built up to for weeks. It justifies everything that has gone before. It justifies the efforts of the players and the dreams of the fans. Not to deliver this climax turns the entire tournament into a failure.

Shakespeare did not stop writing Hamlet after four acts because he had run out of time and he had to get on with The Merry Wives of Windsor. The football World Cup in Brazil will not end at the semi-final stage if the final is suspended because of a sudden cloudburst.

Even without an official reserve day, the authorities could have cobbled one together, as the rain fell, in case it was needed, with enough will and imagination.

Only five players in England's ODI squad are in the T20 squad to face New Zealand on Tuesday at The Oval. They have already ripped out virtually the entire Ashes squad. They could have removed a few more.

If India were about to catch a flight on the 24th to the Caribbean, for a triangular tournament against Sri Lanka and West Indies, they could have changed the flight. The first game is not until the 28th.

If there were not enough stewards, employ some. If they had no bar staff, close the bars. If the ICC officials had to get back to London for a meeting, then play the game without them. Tell them the result later.

If it rains for a week then you cannot do much about it. But by not including a reserve day, the administrators lost touch with the millions of fans who keep the game alive. They must never do so again.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • azaro on June 25, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    Amazing the total lack of respect for the average cricket fan who spends hard-earned money to come and watch, not to mention the millions of others who like me and several other commenters get up in the small hours to watch. The growth of 20/20 cricket has reinforced in the administrator's minds that it is OK to shorten ODI's to fit the TV scheduling. If we want to watch 20/20 we go or tune in to 20/20. If we like ODi's we take a similar action.

    Spare days can be accommodated quite easily and I speak as some one that has managed world cricket events. What I have yet to hear mentioned at all is the use of lights. In the USA if it rains at an evening baseball game it will continue in its entirety until completed, under lights. In many cases this could be done with cricket too. So what if the game goes into prime time, people only cursorily interested will switch the channel anyway, the rest will stay tuned in and fans at the game will stay. Lights cost a lot so let's use them!

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    I'm an Indian who moved to the United States a few years ago and I must say I couldn't agree more with this article. Like any other young Indian, cricket has come to me as an inherit gift which stays on the mind 24/7. This match, like all the others in the tournament, was supposed to start at 5:30 am here and I've been up since just to see the first ball being bowled at 11 something while simultaneously reading comments about how it might eventually be lost to rain. If the ICC promoted the Champions Trophy as a major event then shouldn't it take precedent over bilateral or tri- series games? Isn't the point of the FTP to think ahead of time for such situations that may arise?

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    Truly agree with David Hopps' article. The tournament involves so much investment ranging from sponsors, players and coaching staff in practice, fans on cricket portals and television sets, fans traveling from around the globe to stadiums far from home, security personnel, volunteers and ground staff who kept the game alive. Everyone of these believed they contributed to be an ambassador of cricket, that this tournament was important and had to be pushed to be one of the best irrespective of the conditions around. They all did their bit, but the ICC needs to do their's now. Just 20 minutes of more rain, and the whole tournament would have been nothing but an exhibition show, having wasted countless man hours into a tournament which never concluded the way it should have. How lucky was their escape, how important a reserve day could have been due to 20 minutes.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    This is a brilliant description of what is currently wrong with contemporary cricket and the manner in which it is run. The lack of respect for the common cricket fan who always burns a hole in his pocket to watch the overpriced ICC events is indeed detestable. The Champions trophy 2013 provided for some exhilarating cricket and to see the trophy shared without a ball being bowled would have been an absolute farce. Like Hopps remarks, would we ever see the football World Cup shared by two nations? Never, so why should cricket suffer such an ignominious fate?

  • TheOnlyEmperor on June 26, 2013, 6:27 GMT

    It's in the news that England is planning to levy 3000 pound sterling for every visa application from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh... because these are apparently "high risk" countries. Clearly, this is one more reason why international cricket tournaments should not be held in England. No South Asian cricket fan would want to pay a deposit of 3000 pound sterling to enter England with awful weather and watch a cricket match that invariable struggles to go its entire course!

  • ultimatewarrior on June 25, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    this is one of the best articles on problem a rain can cause and the possible solutions, also i will congratulate all players to give 100% without affecting from rain.....everybody was waiting for a good entertainment of 50-50 between two best teams of best structured tournament but even after giving 10 hrs we got a start stop T20 game....so why not we should try for some BEST solution like permanent roof top like Wimbledon for atleast places for tournament finals and semifinals.....I know it may cost very heavy (640Million Pound for Wimbledon)...but it will be less than what the cricket world had paid today.....

  • on June 25, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    No wonder ICC coffers are poorer than the top 3 major boards. As an avid cricket fan, i'm tired of bilateral series, they number in the hundreds these days and we are tired of watching them. India taking on Srilanka again!!! Please have TEST matches of WI VS INDIA , SL VS INDIA , SL VS WI .

    Now thats a bilateral series!

  • Lermy on June 25, 2013, 0:30 GMT

    Cricketers need to harden up. Give them football boots and raincoats and tell them to get on with it. I remember looking at a pitch under 2 inches of water and people seriously suggesting we give it half an hour before making a decision. Now that's the sort of attitude that built the British empire. If there's less than half an inch of surface water, play on sir!

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 22:38 GMT

    I've since heard that with the help of Courage/John Smiths/Kronenberg/Fosters and many others that ECB/ICC tried to organise an aftershow event. Unfortunately they failed and obviously it was not rescheduled

    Please publish this time - too many ill comms , not enough light humour

  • alesana85 on June 24, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    Totally agree with this article. This is what happens when TV money is put ahead of cricketing prestige. I don't take the 20/20 world cup seriously because of the farcical situation of having a 7 over innings per side match in the T20 world cup in Sri Lanka 2011 due to TV rights. Two years later the icc has stuck with the status quo & have almost shot themselves in the foot again! Despite this well written article, the fact that the icc has almost let this happen again does not give me confidence in future icc tournaments.

  • azaro on June 25, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    Amazing the total lack of respect for the average cricket fan who spends hard-earned money to come and watch, not to mention the millions of others who like me and several other commenters get up in the small hours to watch. The growth of 20/20 cricket has reinforced in the administrator's minds that it is OK to shorten ODI's to fit the TV scheduling. If we want to watch 20/20 we go or tune in to 20/20. If we like ODi's we take a similar action.

    Spare days can be accommodated quite easily and I speak as some one that has managed world cricket events. What I have yet to hear mentioned at all is the use of lights. In the USA if it rains at an evening baseball game it will continue in its entirety until completed, under lights. In many cases this could be done with cricket too. So what if the game goes into prime time, people only cursorily interested will switch the channel anyway, the rest will stay tuned in and fans at the game will stay. Lights cost a lot so let's use them!

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    I'm an Indian who moved to the United States a few years ago and I must say I couldn't agree more with this article. Like any other young Indian, cricket has come to me as an inherit gift which stays on the mind 24/7. This match, like all the others in the tournament, was supposed to start at 5:30 am here and I've been up since just to see the first ball being bowled at 11 something while simultaneously reading comments about how it might eventually be lost to rain. If the ICC promoted the Champions Trophy as a major event then shouldn't it take precedent over bilateral or tri- series games? Isn't the point of the FTP to think ahead of time for such situations that may arise?

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    Truly agree with David Hopps' article. The tournament involves so much investment ranging from sponsors, players and coaching staff in practice, fans on cricket portals and television sets, fans traveling from around the globe to stadiums far from home, security personnel, volunteers and ground staff who kept the game alive. Everyone of these believed they contributed to be an ambassador of cricket, that this tournament was important and had to be pushed to be one of the best irrespective of the conditions around. They all did their bit, but the ICC needs to do their's now. Just 20 minutes of more rain, and the whole tournament would have been nothing but an exhibition show, having wasted countless man hours into a tournament which never concluded the way it should have. How lucky was their escape, how important a reserve day could have been due to 20 minutes.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    This is a brilliant description of what is currently wrong with contemporary cricket and the manner in which it is run. The lack of respect for the common cricket fan who always burns a hole in his pocket to watch the overpriced ICC events is indeed detestable. The Champions trophy 2013 provided for some exhilarating cricket and to see the trophy shared without a ball being bowled would have been an absolute farce. Like Hopps remarks, would we ever see the football World Cup shared by two nations? Never, so why should cricket suffer such an ignominious fate?

  • TheOnlyEmperor on June 26, 2013, 6:27 GMT

    It's in the news that England is planning to levy 3000 pound sterling for every visa application from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh... because these are apparently "high risk" countries. Clearly, this is one more reason why international cricket tournaments should not be held in England. No South Asian cricket fan would want to pay a deposit of 3000 pound sterling to enter England with awful weather and watch a cricket match that invariable struggles to go its entire course!

  • ultimatewarrior on June 25, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    this is one of the best articles on problem a rain can cause and the possible solutions, also i will congratulate all players to give 100% without affecting from rain.....everybody was waiting for a good entertainment of 50-50 between two best teams of best structured tournament but even after giving 10 hrs we got a start stop T20 game....so why not we should try for some BEST solution like permanent roof top like Wimbledon for atleast places for tournament finals and semifinals.....I know it may cost very heavy (640Million Pound for Wimbledon)...but it will be less than what the cricket world had paid today.....

  • on June 25, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    No wonder ICC coffers are poorer than the top 3 major boards. As an avid cricket fan, i'm tired of bilateral series, they number in the hundreds these days and we are tired of watching them. India taking on Srilanka again!!! Please have TEST matches of WI VS INDIA , SL VS INDIA , SL VS WI .

    Now thats a bilateral series!

  • Lermy on June 25, 2013, 0:30 GMT

    Cricketers need to harden up. Give them football boots and raincoats and tell them to get on with it. I remember looking at a pitch under 2 inches of water and people seriously suggesting we give it half an hour before making a decision. Now that's the sort of attitude that built the British empire. If there's less than half an inch of surface water, play on sir!

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 22:38 GMT

    I've since heard that with the help of Courage/John Smiths/Kronenberg/Fosters and many others that ECB/ICC tried to organise an aftershow event. Unfortunately they failed and obviously it was not rescheduled

    Please publish this time - too many ill comms , not enough light humour

  • alesana85 on June 24, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    Totally agree with this article. This is what happens when TV money is put ahead of cricketing prestige. I don't take the 20/20 world cup seriously because of the farcical situation of having a 7 over innings per side match in the T20 world cup in Sri Lanka 2011 due to TV rights. Two years later the icc has stuck with the status quo & have almost shot themselves in the foot again! Despite this well written article, the fact that the icc has almost let this happen again does not give me confidence in future icc tournaments.

  • jacobcurties on June 24, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    The finals of a big tournament getting affected by rain in an era where all sorts of technology is flying around ! Totally not wise. If game and spectators are the things put first, then why not indoor cricket stadiums ? Without pushing things to their limit, it would be much much better if (just) one stadium per country supports indoor game !

    Common! Please no more on and off tempo in one match... It doesn't just bring down the mood of spectators but also the players... That's why they call it "Players are in FORM !"

  • on June 24, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    As a lover of crikeore thna any other game its sad to see. other sports as far as i know dont do this sort of thing. I would argue that if there is a reserve day for 20/20 finals day (i dont know one way or the other) that its some sort of conspiracy to make the masses prefer that primitive clumsy form of the game put next to the longer forms. the lack of respect for the public in this case isnt disimilar to the fact that the cricket authorities thought nothing of hose on low incomes when they sold the game down the river to sky sports...

  • Rhygwyn on June 24, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    From my pov cricket is dying. In 20 years only India will still be making any money and cricket will suffocate to death in all other nations from rugby, soccer and other sports.

  • on June 24, 2013, 17:22 GMT

    David Hopps, hats off for this article and I really hope that THEY do look into these articles that you guys write and these comments that WE type. No reserve day means, no responsibility and letting the cricket fraternity know, it's all weather who decides things and that is the final. I thought we have moved to a level that human could challenge the disasters and the natural dist ructions... yeah we have. But not ICC - it s just like trying to brand an umbrella saying RAIN STOPPED PLAY and selling to outside edgebaston as a charity fund for ICC HQ to fix their roof........

  • Robster1 on June 24, 2013, 16:30 GMT

    Instead of too many English counties spending huge amounts trying to stage international cricket, couldn't all that wasted money have been better spent by simply building a covered stadium close to London?

    But yes, the ICC don't care about the spectator - it's all about raising as many $ as possible by jamming the fixture list full of incessant and often pointless tournaments. Good riddance to the Champions Trophy.

  • on June 24, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    A "20-20 final" for a "50-50 World Cup" (albeit Champions trophy). What a shame! All for accommodating a couple of bilateral 20-20's in England , and for a tri-series in West Indies. When will the cricket administrators, the world over, develope a sense of proportion?

  • Mr.Arrack on June 24, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    The best team in the tourney did take the cup home and we need to build in a rain day to deal with situations such as this. Its just sad that i paid all that money to watch a T20. Specially since i dont' even care for T20's.

  • on June 24, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    It is important that cricket administrators learn from their mistakes.How can a 50 over final be replaced with a 20 over final?This has happened in the past and even in the World cup in South Africa.Even on that occasion the similar commnets were made but the administrators for some unknown reason have their own way.England may have had a better chance if the 50 over was played.It is also high time that the D/L system was reviewed and changes brought about.

  • on June 24, 2013, 12:51 GMT

    I agree 100%.

    It is equivalent to reaching Wimbledon finals day in pre roof years and then cancelling it because it rains and sharing the trophy.

    Thankfully this did not happen.

    Cricket administrators need to sort their ideas out.

  • true_point on June 24, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    Great article. All ICC wants is money and does not care neither for spectators nor for the game. It is a total traversity of justice that a 50-over final was made into a 20-over match. Great to see the player's commitment to play even if the play is curtailed from 50 to 20 overs. They could have scheduled the final for Saturday with Sunday being made the reserve day. Some solution could have been found for this rain problem.

  • on June 24, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    Part of the issue, of course, is that's it's easy to be wise after the event. The article makes any number of valid points, but what if the weather was no better on the reserve day? Moreover, there is no guarantee that all those who came on one day would be able to come the following day, and surely it is the paying public that need to come first?

  • m23khan on June 24, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    You would imagine UK with all its wealth could afford to built some 'covered' stadiums due to rainy weather. Something along the lines of Rogers Center in Toronto, Canada

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    @Ayub Suleman on (June 24, 2013, 11:25 GMT) Firstly , June and July are middle of summer months and can no way be defined as spring. Secondly we are not lucky enough (even a week or so - sometimes days in advance) to know when weather is going to be good or bad. We could get a dry period at any point between April and Sept and by the same token we also can get rain at any point in those months. Thirdly - You say Rain interrupted most of the time. Re the final - yes , but as a whole we had 1 no result , 1 DL tie and 3 fair shortened games. The other 10 were all completed 50 over games. Agree re having reserve days etc but let's not make the tourn as a whole to be as bad as that

  • MartinC on June 24, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    @IndiaNumeroUno - I accept that India have every right to schedule the IPL - but it IS part of the fixture congestion problem because it take up a window in which other International cricket could be scheduled which does not involve India. I dont think in benefits the Indian Test team at all, quite the reverse in fact - maybe the ODI team.

    My own view is it will implode or at least shrink at some point as the money which supports it from advertising and sponsorship moves to other opportunities helped along by the current corruption problems. Thats just my view though.

    It rains in India as well by the way - I know as I am a frequent visitor.

    The bottom line is there is too much cricket and a way has to be found to reduce the volume. Personally I would reduce the amount of 50 overs cricket played but accept that there are contractual and commercial issues around doing that.

  • on June 24, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    The Champions Trophy in England/Wales was the worst competiton ever played. Rain interupted most of the time and this changed everything. Never play cricket in England during spring. That was the result. T20 is not the same as 50 overs ODI. Let's admit this. Totally 2 different games and format. ICC next time thing before you leap. Poor show

  • on June 24, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    No reserve day and umpire Rod Tucker who must have had more decisions overturned than any other umpire selected for the final. Thank you ICC.

  • StiffUpperLip on June 24, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Never stage tournaments in England! Is that the answer, what sort of rubbish is being spouted on here. Boo hoo, a bit of weather disrupts a few games, and the answer is never in England. I guess no other important games have EVER been affected by weather. If it is cold in England, wear warmer clothes, can you cool down (without aid) if it is too hot? Nationalities from all test playing countries reside in large numbers in the country Transportation is such that you are a maximum of 3 hours by train from each venue from London (for example) Each venue is generally full for all games. How many would have watched England v New Zealand, if the game had been in Mumbai?! The answer, as suggested in the article, is strategic planning and reserve days.

  • IndiaNumeroUno on June 24, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    @MartinC: IPL will only increase in popularity. IPL is single handedly responsible for the success the Indian team has seen in the past few years. New talent and experience has been built up which otherwise would have been lost. There are very many advantages in the IPL for other countries too, but don't forget that IPL is primarily for India.. so if you are having trouble sorting out your calendar.. tough! (why would you play in English rain anyway?!)

  • on June 24, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    This Cup was a joke a drama , NO this i not how one deserves to be a winner , i admit and accept India as one of the Best side in Cricket at the moment , but this cup deliberately went the same way as IPL or any other county league , England was basically prepared for 50 overs and selected a team ethically the same way , but this went on to become a 20 over match.............. no one deserves victory this way ............ GOD was definitely with Dhoni and team India ( as the captain later said) , but that's not how we play games on Earth .

  • on June 24, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    Cricketing law is now questionable.

  • MartinC on June 24, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    The simple fact is that there is too much International cricket and the situation has been made worse by the unofficial window being created by every Country apart from England to cater for the IPL.

    The IPL issue will sort itself out at some point IMO as the competition either implodes or shrinks back to something more manageable. Even that though still requires the ICC to grasp the nettle and reduce the amount of ODIs and 20/20's being played.

    Commercial (read TV rights) make that easier said that done!

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    @yorkshirematt on (June 23, 2013, 21:43 GMT) I suppose there is that , but in that case the fan is offered a full refund on the ticket or free entrance with the original ticket the next day

    @sachin_vvsfan on (June 24, 2013, 7:21 GMT) I think it's difficult to keep the match on hold for a while if it rained for a number of days but not to have one reserve day is farcical. Agree a 20 over game is not ideal to settle a tournament but it was certainly the best case scenario here and at least the crowd saw a game and the best team of the tournament came out as the winners which is the most imposrtant thing

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    CTD - I've never heard of any other sport whereby a major final does not have a reserve day. In football , all league and cup games are replayed if a game is called off. Imagine if during the winter you're near the top and your side (in whatever league) has a home game called off against the rock bottom side and it's not rescheduled? I've made plenty of common sense suggestions to help the game produce results and make the game more attractive to local and travelling fans and all it takes is for the organisations to have some foresight. While we can do nothing about the weather and many of the posts re our weather are unjust - as it's no one's fault we get this weather - I feel our shortsightedness is costing us potential cricket fans.

  • JG2704 on June 24, 2013, 8:23 GMT

    It was more through fortune than judgement that the Tournament had a winner. Had we had another hour or less of rain we'd have had no result.

    There is no reason as I see it why the NZ T20 series could not have been scheduled for Weds and Fri or Thur/Sat. Also , even during the group games IMO there could have been reserve days even if it meant teams playing 2 games in a row. It's a short tournament anyway and the players still get the same rest time - just not spread out so much. If you look at outdoor Tennis Grand Slam events (which I'm not a big fan of but will use as a good example) , if there are days lost to weather they always try and cram as much in as possible even if it means some players have a gruelling schedule and the players accept it and I'd say a 2 hour tennis match is every bit as intense for a tennis player as an ODI game is for a cricketer.

  • stormy16 on June 24, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    2007 WC final also was a mess made by the ICC and we said then this should never happen again but here we are all over again. I don't believe the result would have changed but you cant come a final and then have a farcical finish for the sake of a game. There has to be a proper contest in the final at all cost.

  • HAVANA on June 24, 2013, 8:20 GMT

    Well written Mr.Hopps. I do recommend that the ICC scheduling committee be put under investigation, by a neutral party. A most basic policy has been breached, and I do not have any confidence in those running the show. There appears to be an East-West, Test-ODI tussle in the ICC. Its time for some sort of leadership.

  • Stumay on June 24, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    What a ludicrous load of nonsense from TheOnlyEmperor. I suppose we should all play tournaments in India or South Africa or Australia where nobody turns up to watch the matches and the players rattle around in 90% empty grounds. As for the temperature, a pathetic observation; it's the same for English players when they have to play in hot weather with high humidity in other countries.

  • Priyavrat96 on June 24, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    ICC should select the venue according to the weather because too much rain in England has led the matches delayed by weather.

  • Lightsaber on June 24, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    I think we are taking the survival of 50 over cricket for granted...Every format of cricket has its fans....by doing away with champions trophy we are putting to waste the most meaningful,precise,crisp tournaments in the game... We should keep cricket as it is and not force people to watch test cricket at the expense of other formats with growing popularity.. .Test cricket may be the ultimate test ...but a game is played for entertaintment ,it is not a college examination . If test cricket is the format people loves ,let them leave the choice to them instead of forcing it upon them .PROMOTE TEST CRICKET BUT NOT AT THE COST OF OTHER FORMATS..

  • sachin_vvsfan on June 24, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    What if it had rained in the reserve day too? Why don't they just continue the game from where it was left. I remember in 1999 WC a league game between the same opponents was continued to the next day due to rain. Although the conditions may wary day to day this is lot better than D/L and gives fair chance to both sides.

    @Chris_P agree with you. T20 to decide 50 over tournament. what a farce!!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 24, 2013, 7:20 GMT

    So many false arguments on this topic. The fans felt let down because a 50 over contest was reduced to a 20 over one. It's really not that difficult to understand.

  • on June 24, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    If anything could perfectly expose how ludicrous the over scheduling of fixtures has become it is this. No room for a reserve day for a premier tournament because England have to play 2 meaningless T20 matches with New Zealand starting less than 48 hours later, the outcome of which will be forgotten 10 minutes after they finish. This is what happens when a sport allows itself to be run by TV producers and accountants. Pack in the fans, get the viewers, take the money, who cares about the quality. If you can't run a tournament properly, then why bother having it all?

  • TheOnlyEmperor on June 24, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    England is no place to play serious cricket. If cricket loses its appeal to the spectator, it's because of the incessant breaks and weather delays. You shouldn't be playing cricket with an eye on the weather. Little wonder, nobody (cricketers included) likes the Duckworth and Lewis way of playing cricket.

    Why play a tournament in a country, where teams get knocked off from competition because of rain intervention? I'm pretty certain it would not have been England in the finals had there been no rain intervention in the tournament at all!

    And it's not just the rain. The temperature was hardly conducive to play cricket. You can't play cricket when the temperature is such that the ball stings you when you field or if you have to keep rubbing your palms or keeping them in the pocket to keep warm. As a spectator, it's infinitely more enjoyable watching a cricket tournament played in India, Australia or South Africa.

  • on June 24, 2013, 6:41 GMT

    All ODIs should have 1 reserve day....not to replay the match but continue the same match next day in case of rain...if it rains on the match day ...the players are getting rest only,so they can take 1 day from the rest between the next ODI of any tournament ...even if its a bilateral series....D/L method is not foolproof,if a team scoring 300 in 50 overs is much better than a team scoring 120 in 20 overs with the same 10 wickets.But the rules favour the chasing team and make the toss a deciding factor.In england its also much easier to shift venues based on rain forecasts as places are nearer than say in India.

  • tickcric on June 24, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    No expert of English weather but I remember the 2004 CT held in September. It had very few rain interruption. I don't think ICC cared to schedule the tournament at the right time.

  • on June 24, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    Well done to India, the best team in the tournament won it. However, all these comments about never staging an ICC tournament in England again make me laugh. It is possible to play cricket in my homeland in the summer, it doesn't rain all the time. It does rain in other parts of the world, at least we got a final unlike when India-SL shared the trophy.

  • Return-of-Sinhaya on June 24, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    Srilanka is the best place for icc tournaments, just look at the success of last year t20 world cup and also the superb success of the SLPL, ICC should reconsider and give us the opportunity to host international tournaments, it can also give us much needed advantage

  • Whatsgoinoffoutthere on June 24, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    The ICC extended playing time on the day to 8:30pm in a move widely described as common sense. But why was there a time at all if there wasn't a reserve day? Also, I was watching the clock in that last over (adjusted to pedantically correct time for this very reason) and the game concluded a few minutes past that. What was everyone supposed to do? Down tools and march off home - presumably getting as far as the dressing room door before the spectators gave chase and hauled them back? Seems to me that the monopoly on common sense rests with the match officials and the teams!

  • Bong_Amit on June 24, 2013, 5:00 GMT

    ICC should stop conducting any international cricket tournament in England and Wales. Weather their is not conducive to conduct andy cricket tournamenet. We have had similar experience in 1999 world cup and have similar experience in previous tournamenet. You can not play cricket in rainy and dump condition. What we saw in the tournament is disgusting.

  • on June 24, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    Thanks for the article. Just consider the uproar if India would have lost the T20 match played as final for Champions Trophy one day tournament! All hell will have broken loose.

    I could not rejoice in this victory.

  • ajithabey on June 24, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    Congratulations India for winning yet another title. However, ICC should schedule these important tournaments in the height of the summer as the fickle English weather made a mockery of the tournament including the final. England still have to wait to win a major title despite the fact that match scheduling and pitch conditions in late spring & early summer favoured England all the way. Good to see India maintaining their winning ways with a very professional performance in each game.

  • chetanphanse on June 24, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Seriously !And why get rid of this really nice tournament. India play meaningless ODI's with Srilanka as its alternate opponent who neither teams care to win or loose (because of the frequency). Please stop those. Stop IPL or atleast reduce it. But NO ICC will have to take the most bizzare decisions!

  • on June 24, 2013, 4:22 GMT

    first of all, never ever organise a cricket tournamentin UK. BIG FULL STOP! Good luck getting 5 Ashes game .

  • on June 24, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    Dare I say it - I actually prefer this competition to the World Cup...Bring in the next two teams and finish it in 21 days.

  • on June 24, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    So very true. The only thing really wrong with cricket are the administrators. There is little or no respect for the average fan. They treat a major ICC tournament like this, conduct tours that lack once basic ingredient - Context (India playing SL again!! Really?? ) and expect us fans to still go and watch the circus. And they still complain that "Cricket is in trouble because there isn't enough spectator interest"!!!

  • TrickDaddy on June 24, 2013, 2:03 GMT

    Well said David and thank you for speaking on our behalf we the fans who the game is played for.

  • on June 24, 2013, 2:00 GMT

    who has win the match and not intest match of the final match

  • on June 24, 2013, 1:48 GMT

    Another thing. It could be a longer day... if a day game is not possible have a day-night and then with a possibility of it to min of 20-20.

  • Chris_P on June 24, 2013, 1:29 GMT

    It is like ordering a Daimler Benz & receiving the keys to a mini. It will still get you around but not what you wanted. A 20-20 match to decide a 50 over tournament? Maybe the next T20 World Cup we can just revert to super overs & save time as well.

  • on June 24, 2013, 1:15 GMT

    I am a West Indian and we have a passion for cricket.Congrats to India.I agreed with the writer.I supposed to get my monies worth.The ground staff has done well but ICC administrator has just get away with a big blunder.They are the people who make the rules and determine sactions.How about them today who turn a 50 over game into a T20 match.

  • Smead on June 24, 2013, 1:14 GMT

    50 over games should be played in 4 quarts of 25 overs each. Team A wins the toss and bats for 25 overs. Team B then bats for 25 overs. Whichever team has more runs after 25 overs chooses the sequence of the 2nd innings. This will make the game so much more fair and strategic. Benefits of this will be Games where the toss plays a big factor on the outcome are reduced as both team get to experience more of the same conditions. Day/night games see both teams play in both day and night conditions When to take power plays becomes more strategic, gets people excitement up at mid innings as the tram with more runs gets to dictate the sequence of the 2nd innings. Rain conditions much more fair, if game abandon's play then team with most runs after 25 overs wins. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the benefits are endless. Come to the party ICC

  • on June 24, 2013, 0:56 GMT

    A fifty overs tourney should never be decided with a shortened 20 overs game. We should have had a reserve day and a full 50 over game to decide the winner. Good win for India though, clearly the better team under pressure.

  • Kapil_Choudhary on June 24, 2013, 0:03 GMT

    Excellent article !!! Basically, the ICC didn't really WANT to hold this tournament but were forced to do so by the broadcasters - and thus did a thoroughly cursory job. completely agree that the least they need to do is have a reserve day for the final

  • Amarjitmadan on June 23, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    Fully agreed, very poor planning with no regard to fans who had gone to watch and millions more TV watchers waiting. It is revenue generated on which ICC survives and they ignore the basic fact, let us hope a lesson will have been learnt to avoid such repeats.

  • on June 23, 2013, 22:49 GMT

    David Hopps is right on the button. As administrators, ICC should know how to schedule an important event like this. Otherwise, learn from others like, Wimbledon Tennis organizers, USTA etc. We hope that David's suggestion of not repeating it is taken seriously by ICC.

  • BHARATLIFE on June 23, 2013, 22:37 GMT

    How can the administrators be given a pat, i think the ground staff and the umpires should be given a greater credit, they worked so industriously, all over the day. The most saddening thing is that the ICC, did not even come out , and made a courteous gesture to all the cricket lovers, planning for a re-match. How can they compare an inconsequential T20 games to an ICC even. On top of that , we are having a Ashes, and a tri nations in WI, i do not think many people will remember about the two T20 games. I agree with some people , although , i am on the right side today,but as a fan, i would have been more satisfied if we had a full 50 over game. Unfortunately, the ICC,will not bow down as long as they have audience, and crazy cricket fans, they will have their green. But it is this lack of sympathy or courtesy for the common fan, that is sad and scary!!!!

  • andystat on June 23, 2013, 22:37 GMT

    And why not schedule the final for the Saturday to give some wriggle room?

  • on June 23, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    I would have been impressed with Mr. Hopps if he had said that since West Indies needed 3.5 overs the umpires should have stuck around to give the game a chance to end. That was not his team .England was. They lost. Get over it. If we are going to ask for reserve games let's ask for all rounds and end the foolish comparative over nonsense that robbed the Indies in their match against South Africa. The fact is you can't only want a reserve game in the final and not for any other round.

  • yorkshirematt on June 23, 2013, 21:43 GMT

    Just playing devil's advocate here but what if, with the reserve day being a Monday, most of the crowd couldn't attend? You could throw a sickie I suppose but I think employers would smell a rat, especially if they know you're a cricket fan. Come to think of it I'm not sure how many of Birmingham's Indian population will be turning up at the office tomorrow morning!

  • cricpolitics on June 23, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    "and that bilateral tours take precedence" this is an absolute shameless excuse from the ICC. The fact of the matter is that the bilateral tours are being scraped to give room for playing more one day or T20 Triangulars. We already know enough as to what happened to the future tours program. No one gives it any precedence anymore so ICC needs to stop lying to the public.

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:38 GMT

    Absolutely brilliant piece!! Its the fans who keep the game alive and of course the revenue steams in from the fans as well.

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:30 GMT

    Thank you mr Hopps for putting forward the anguish of common fan in such a simple but highly effective manner! I hope those dministrators read it. There was enough time to include the extra day but don't know what the administrators thought about it. I am sure the feelings of fan was not at all important fr them. Cricet is th in game where the game is shortened in order to get time! Just imagine it appending in tennis or football.

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    Totally agree with this article, When i switched on cricinfo to watch the match (In USA) i was shocked to read that there was no reserve day, and looking at the rain i thought it was repeat of the champions trophy of 2002 where it rained both on the final's day and the reserve day, I didn't feel it much during 2002 because it rained on the reserve day as well, as mentioned in the article "that you can't do much if it rains for week" but not having a reserve day, truly showed that ICC's planning was totally flawed.

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    Easiest way to have a reserve day, they could keep the final on Saturday and kept Sunday as a reserve day!!!

  • BOND_OO7 on June 23, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    What about fans from the countries that are not playing in ct? In next ct,we hope countries like Bangladesh,Ireland,zim must be given qualifying chance atleast. Coz we are fans too. We want too see our team play

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    I was at Edgbaston today, but if the game had been delayed until tomorrow, I wouldn't have been able to go, because I have work.

  • jw76 on June 23, 2013, 21:13 GMT

    Well said, Hoppsy. But England isn't alone in the weather problem - I vaguely remember some years ago in another (for me) forgettable one-day tournament India and Sri Lanka (I think) had to share the cup because the final was totally washed out without a reserve day being allowed.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 23, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    It would have been a farcical end to a brilliant tournament. This also begs the question why weren't the previous rain affected games played as T20s ? There must always be a level of consistency in such high profile tournaments. Anyway, the Indians won't mind it one bit. They are champions and it's celebration time for all Indian fans.. including myself. :)

  • mar2000 on June 23, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    Very true , Like bringing cricket to the Caribbean in the rainy season .......Utter madness.

  • on June 23, 2013, 21:00 GMT

    The problem is not just that there was no reserve day for the final. The entire tournament was affected by rain, and given the very few scheduled matches (a total of fifteen matches) allowing the rain to be such a huge factor in the outcome was essentially to turn the event into a game of chance or a crap shoot. Teams had prepared their line ups as if they were going into a 50 over event, but so many times, as in the final, it came down to a T20 event. Now, much has been made by all about the triviality and meaninglessness of the T20 format, and how it is anybody's game, a game of cavalier big hitting gambler. But here we are, in the final of the Champions Cup playing a T20 match. The organizers might be able to get away with saying that there were not enough days available for a reserve day, but I cannot accept that they also CHANGED THE FORMAT ON US from a 50 over match to a T20 match. It's like changing Wimbledon to a hard court on Championship day.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:57 GMT

    Well sad. But will they listen?

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:53 GMT

    Totally agree with OP. I mean for heaves sake, we are in the 21st century and England does not have 1 ground with a roof to block rain ??

    Cricket is gentlemen's sport and the fans have been true gentlemen during this tournament. I can only imagine if this was football, the people would shouting for their money back. There are many people who fly from across continents to watch their teams play and then the rain ruins the game. Sort it ECB and ICC

  • Achettup on June 23, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    Kudos to Mr Hopps! We've been doing this for years, whenever we lose we blame the ICC, and its only when all of us lose together that we can really bring change to the ICC! \m/ peace

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    Easy solution for the reserve day story: Make the final on saturday, with reserve day on Sunday.

  • pommyadders on June 23, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    "They must never do so again." You're right David, but I think you and I both know that they will......again and again and again. The ICC, in fact all the cricket boards have show over and over that they care little for the fans and are motivated only by short term profits.

  • JG2704 on June 23, 2013, 20:42 GMT

    CTD - I've never heard of any other sport whereby a major final does not have a reserve day. In football , all league and cup games are replayed if a game is called off. Imagine if during the winter you're near the top and your side (in whatever league) has a home game called off against the rock bottom side and it's not rescheduled? I've made plenty of common sense suggestions to help the game produce results and make the game more attractive to local and travelling fans and all it takes is for the organisations to have some foresight. While we can do nothing about the weather and many of the posts re our weather are unjust - as it's no one's fault we get this weather - I feel our shortsightedness is costing us potential cricket fans.

  • LalithBond on June 23, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    Completely Agree with it, The ICC definitely got lucky today, A professional world tournament just next to World Cup deserves much better handling than this.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    gutsy and important article at the moments ..by an indian fan

  • JG2704 on June 23, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    Totally agree with the article.

    It was more through fortune than judgement that the Tournament had a winner. Had we had another hour or less of rain we'd have had no result.

    There is no reason as I see it why the NZ T20 series could not have been scheduled for Weds and Fri or Thur/Sat. Also , even during the group games IMO there could have been reserve days even if it meant teams playing 2 games in a row. It's a short tournament anyway and the players still get the same rest time - just not spread out so much. If you look at outdoor Tennis Grand Slam events (which I'm not a big fan of but will use as a good example) , if there are days lost to weather they always try and cram as much in as possible even if it means some players have a gruelling schedule and the players accept it and I'd say a 2 hour tennis match is every bit as intense for a tennis player as an ODI game is for a cricketer.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    The best solution missing.. Do not play major tournaments in England :)

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    absolute truth, thanks for writing this, this is the voice of the fans. They were lucky to have come this close to and survive a disaster that could have marred ICC's credibility as well as English Cricket's reputation in front of the whole world.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:29 GMT

    All you said made a perfect sense.Only question why couldn't they have final on saturday and keep a reserve day for sunday.Indian team wouldn't have to miss their flight.English player wouldn't have to remove there players or administrators wouldn't be late for their meeting as well.Really not keeping an additional day for final doesn't make sense. this kind of negligence reduces the value of the tournament.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 23, 2013, 20:27 GMT

    You have to wonder at ICC and the fact that they are so often the last people in cricket to exercise common sense. Today was really a disgrace and a 50 over game spanniing today and tomorrow would have been clever. Somethng else which would have bee clever too would have been to stage more matches in the east than to use the west so much with its far greater risk of rain. As the writer says, the organisers were under a duty to ensure the final was sufficient unto all the effort time nd money spent on it. Maybe it's time to get people with a proven track record of operating consistently exercising common sense in their lives to run ICC.

  • vikram501 on June 23, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Great Article David Hopps. The ICC should count themselves really lucky here. They should thank the elements that allowed a match to be played and save their skin.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    this is so true. It is an absolute disgrace that they had no reserve day. If the rain had gone on for half an hour more then this match would not have happened. The ICC were so lucky and they need to learn from this day. It would have been despicable had this match not have happened due to not having a reserve day.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:19 GMT

    A very fair assessment of the shambles today. As an England fan in disappointed we didn't win but if we had done so it would have been down to winning the toss and bad weather curtailing the length of the game. India were the best team in the tournament and deserved their win. I hope this is not the last time we see this tournament played . Despite the dodgy English weather its been a pleasure to watch.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    Very true. Ignore and trivialize the fans, and even the World Cup will not save cricket.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    I don't comprehend how a 50 over ICC Championship trophy that has been built up to a culmination of the best 2 teams can be decided on the basis of a 20-20 shoot out, a totally different format :-\

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    Very true, 2003 Champions trophy in colombo, 2006 world cup final and today's game all show icc in a poor light for improper planning

  • kalaalok1982 on June 23, 2013, 19:59 GMT

    Really Mr Hopps I as a fan and enthusiast support your column here. Reserve day is a must for a final of such tournaments. . . I wonder what would have happened if same reason was given if it would have been a WORLD CUP FINAL...

  • kalaalok1982 on June 23, 2013, 19:59 GMT

    Really Mr Hopps I as a fan and enthusiast support your column here. Reserve day is a must for a final of such tournaments. . . I wonder what would have happened if same reason was given if it would have been a WORLD CUP FINAL...

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    Very true, 2003 Champions trophy in colombo, 2006 world cup final and today's game all show icc in a poor light for improper planning

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    I don't comprehend how a 50 over ICC Championship trophy that has been built up to a culmination of the best 2 teams can be decided on the basis of a 20-20 shoot out, a totally different format :-\

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    Very true. Ignore and trivialize the fans, and even the World Cup will not save cricket.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:19 GMT

    A very fair assessment of the shambles today. As an England fan in disappointed we didn't win but if we had done so it would have been down to winning the toss and bad weather curtailing the length of the game. India were the best team in the tournament and deserved their win. I hope this is not the last time we see this tournament played . Despite the dodgy English weather its been a pleasure to watch.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    this is so true. It is an absolute disgrace that they had no reserve day. If the rain had gone on for half an hour more then this match would not have happened. The ICC were so lucky and they need to learn from this day. It would have been despicable had this match not have happened due to not having a reserve day.

  • vikram501 on June 23, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Great Article David Hopps. The ICC should count themselves really lucky here. They should thank the elements that allowed a match to be played and save their skin.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 23, 2013, 20:27 GMT

    You have to wonder at ICC and the fact that they are so often the last people in cricket to exercise common sense. Today was really a disgrace and a 50 over game spanniing today and tomorrow would have been clever. Somethng else which would have bee clever too would have been to stage more matches in the east than to use the west so much with its far greater risk of rain. As the writer says, the organisers were under a duty to ensure the final was sufficient unto all the effort time nd money spent on it. Maybe it's time to get people with a proven track record of operating consistently exercising common sense in their lives to run ICC.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:29 GMT

    All you said made a perfect sense.Only question why couldn't they have final on saturday and keep a reserve day for sunday.Indian team wouldn't have to miss their flight.English player wouldn't have to remove there players or administrators wouldn't be late for their meeting as well.Really not keeping an additional day for final doesn't make sense. this kind of negligence reduces the value of the tournament.

  • on June 23, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    absolute truth, thanks for writing this, this is the voice of the fans. They were lucky to have come this close to and survive a disaster that could have marred ICC's credibility as well as English Cricket's reputation in front of the whole world.