England v Australia, 2nd NatWest ODI, Old Trafford September 8, 2013

Dice fall favourably for Fawad

Australia's new legspinner found favourable conditions to make his first ODI appearance against a major nation and he produced an encouraging display
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Any spin bowler, no matter how accomplished, needs certain elemental circumstances to fall in his favour. He benefits from team-mates endeavouring to help him out by engineering those circumstances, and an absent-minded moment or two by the opposition doesn't hurt either. On a day when Australia disposed of England with unusual ease, the dice fell the way of Fawad Ahmed, and against his opposite number James Tredwell.

Each man harbours ambitions of taking part in the return Test series down under, certainly as understudy if not first choice, and though not a whole lot separated their bowling at Old Trafford, the circumstances in which they operated diverged wildly. By generously choosing to send Australia in on a dry surface and a sun-dappled morning, England's Eoin Morgan did Fawad Ahmed a significant favour, allowing him to bowl in defence of a fat total. In contrast, Tredwell was left exposed by the scoreboard and the situation, unable to settle as the Australians went after him.

While Australia and England are content in their pace attacks and first preferences as Test match spin bowlers, both nations seek greater information about the slow bowlers who might replace Graeme Swann and Nathan Lyon should they be required. In Fawad, Australia have a tremendous story to inspire other new immigrants to play for the national team, but as a bowler he remains minimally tested in international encounters. Tredwell has been Swann's understudy for quite some time, but the question of whether he might take on the role in Australia remains open, particularly given Monty Panesar's recent misadventures.

Perhaps mindful of this, Australia's batsmen targeted Tredwell in the morning, cuffing 60 runs from his eight overs, the bowler gaining only the wicket of Aaron Finch in return. The two overs Tredwell did not bowl spoke much for the effect his expense had on the captain Morgan, who was left looking for other options with only Steve Finn and Boyd Rankin counting as full-timers. Tredwell did not bowl badly, but he lacked the sense of danger Swann creates in Australian minds. They would not mind seeing him again during the home summer.

In addition to runs on the board, a spinner is also aided by the pouching of early wickets with the new ball. Even Shane Warne struggled when, as on the 1998 India tour, he often found himself twirling the ball down at settled and aggressive opening batsmen, their games emboldened by the forging of a safe passage through the new ball phase. This time Mitchell Johnson and James Faulkner knocked the top off the England batting order to leave the hosts 54 for 3 when Fawad was introduced in the 16th over.

Clarke set his field in careful consultation with Fawad. Their backgrounds could not be more different, but as captain and legspinner they must form a tight relationship if Fawad is to play successfully. Empathy is not a quality felt by every captain when dealing with a spin bowler, particularly in recent years in Australia. But in Clarke, Australia have a leader who is able to think nimbly about how best to gain wickets through spin. The circumstances of the innings and the timing - shortly after the end of the Powerplay - were ideal for Fawad.

Fawad ended the day with figures eerily similar to those of James Tredwell. But it was Australia who would depart Manchester the happier, not only with the result but also what they had seen of their spin bowler.

Scoreboard notwithstanding, he was quickly placed under pressure by two of England's more inventive batsmen. Kevin Pietersen's reluctance to be tied down is well known, and Morgan is similarly proactive, particularly when confronted by a target that if accomplished would have represented England's highest successful ODI chase. So it was that a pair of quite presentable overs from a legspinner seeking to drop onto a length were taken for 23 runs.

To Fawad's fourth ball, Pietersen smeared a flat six over straight midwicket. To his sixth, Morgan reverse swept to the backward point rope. Another paddled boundary in the next over had Fawad furrowing his brow, and Clarke choosing to withdraw his leggie. None of the 12 deliveries had been particularly poor. They were a little flat perhaps, a tad nervous and lacking in bite, but there was nothing of Simon Kerrigan's Oval Test about them. Still, Clarke replaced Fawad with Johnson to seek a wicket, and also to ensure Fawad could go on thinking positively, lest further blows affect confidence not yet unshakeable at international level.

Pietersen and Ravi Bopara had both been disposed of by the time Fawad returned, the former skimming Shane Watson to cover and the latter bunting a return catch from the unobtrusive slow left-arm of Adam Voges. The desperation of the batsmen had increased. Both Morgan and Jos Buttler would try to get at Fawad over his next four overs, essaying slog sweeps, drives and cut shots. But neither would make the contact they desired, and both would sky strokes that sailed narrowly out of the reach of Clarke's fieldsmen. After his first two overs cost 23, Fawad's next four went for 19.

Across those 36 balls, there was little sight of the variation that has flummoxed more than a few Australian batsmen in the nets, or state opponents in the Sheffield Shield last summer. Fawad kept his wrong'un largely hidden, concentrating on subtly varied leg breaks and drawing an error from batsmen straining to slam him to the fence. In this they were plainly unsuccessful, not once collecting a boundary in his second spell.

In that time the required rate climbed from 8.24 to 9.50, and the pressure imposed would result in a rush of wickets. Morgan took the batting Powerplay and immediately perished while trying to heave at Clint McKay, who Clarke had sensibly recalled to the attack. From there, England were without hope and Australia without worry. Fawad would come back for a final over and scoop the wicket of Buttler, attempting another slog at the end of his spirited 75, and spun one fine leg break past the groping bat of Finn before the No. 11 mowed a six and drove a boundary.

Those runs meant that Fawad ended the day with figures eerily similar to those of Tredwell. But it was the visitors who would depart Manchester the happier, not only with the result but also what they had seen of their spin bowler.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • LongLiveTestCricket009 on September 10, 2013, 0:07 GMT

    Ahmed seems like a very hard working leggie with good variations and has the ability to create doubts in batsman's mind by consistently landing the ball in the zone of uncertainty with eye level flight and heaps of revs. It's natural but hard on him that he gets compared with Warne.

    This is a new era of cricket and so much has changed in last 7-8 years. E.g. look at the bat edges, some of them are close to 2 inches, even miss-hits clear the ropes over bowler's head. Fawad deserves some credit for giving the ball good air even after being hit for runs early on. Big hearted player!

    He needs a couple of good performances to get consistent backing from Clarke and then there will be no looking back.

  • Biggus on September 9, 2013, 4:20 GMT

    After Warne every leggie will be viewed with reference to him, but that wasn't always the case. Fawad's not a bad spinner, and in fact given some chances and some confidence could turn out to be a very useful player, but at the moment Lyon MUST be well ahead with regard to the series down under. I didn't think Fawad bowled all that well last night and I've seen him bowl far better, but it was a serviceable performance against an admittedly lacklustre opposition. If the rest of your bowling attack is keeping things tight then you can afford a potentially wayward leggie, but given the injuries to our bowlers and the possibility that MJ will play in Brisbane I don't think we can risk Fawad if we want to be able to build pressure against England, besides the fact that despite his detractors Lyon is actually a pretty good test bowler and less likely to leak easy runs than the leggie. Whether the selectors will see things this way remains to be seen.

  • on September 13, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    'In addition to runs on the board, a spinner is also aided by the pouching of early wickets with the new ball. '

    Well, Tredwell got his wicket in the 21st over of the innings, and his own 4th over. Fawad got his wicket in the last over he bowled, and the 44th over the innings!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on September 12, 2013, 20:16 GMT

    Have to say from what I've seen of Fawad so far I'd say that Lyon's better than Ahmed, and that's saying something. Ahmed lacks control and could be seriously found out in the longer form of the game.

  • on September 10, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    wel every1 today saeed ajmal is world's best spinner.all of you may know once hussy smashed 21 runs of ajmals one over.in almost every 2nd match Ashwin get punished but stil playing. I think time is a best teacher.so plz give him time.

  • SirViv1973 on September 10, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    @electric_loco_WAP4 (And yesterday's showing when he had the Eng batsmen totaly at sea and look clueless vs his spin, is a hint of his talent and why he is among the best spinners in the world). For the Umteenth time this year you seem to have been watching a diffierent cricketer to rest of us. Fawad was blasted out of the attack by Morgan & KP who took 23 off his first 2 overs! his figs only became semi respectable when he came back later in the inns when the seamers had already settled the match. There were a number of Aus players who performed well in this game but Fawad was not one of them!

  • Haleos on September 10, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    @ likeintcricket - It seems you are new to cricket and heard about shane warne's first match and then his career today. It is an insult to warnie if you compare him to Fawad. Moreover - the underlining word in your comment was INDIA. Shane struggled throughout his career against India but still is the best leggie of modern times. Fawad is a player who played on streets before the fast track. It just shows desperation that CA is in right now or lack of confidence in the existing players.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on September 10, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    If Fawad has been fast tracked been in Aus side, that implies 2 things: a) Spin cupboard is bare b) And if Fawad has been getting lot of domestic wickets in shield cricket, then no wonder Aus batsmen are so ill equipped to deal with even slightly better international spinner like Ashwin, Jadeja, Robbie Paterson, Duminy, Monty, Hafeez, Rahman alikes leave alone Ajmal & Swann.

  • BrienD on September 10, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    I am proud of Australia. However as it should be for our government, it should be the same for all our industries; let us keep religion out of it all. I have to admit I am quite surprised that the team agrees with Ahmed not wearing the uniform. We enter a dangerous slippery slope.

  • on September 10, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    Brad Hogg was a marvellous wrist spinner in the short form of the game, and there's one thing he proved above all else - quality bowling and success in ODI cricket indicates little about your ability in Test cricket. Bowling a mixed bag of variations in leg spin works well in short form cricket, where the batsmen are coming after you and beating them just slightly can result in a top edge or a missed slog hitting the wickets... but in Test cricket there's so much more to it. Australia has made the mistake too many times of thinking that good ODI success justifies a spot in the Test team. Let's let Ahmed play a second good shield season, and then start talking about a baggy green.

  • LongLiveTestCricket009 on September 10, 2013, 0:07 GMT

    Ahmed seems like a very hard working leggie with good variations and has the ability to create doubts in batsman's mind by consistently landing the ball in the zone of uncertainty with eye level flight and heaps of revs. It's natural but hard on him that he gets compared with Warne.

    This is a new era of cricket and so much has changed in last 7-8 years. E.g. look at the bat edges, some of them are close to 2 inches, even miss-hits clear the ropes over bowler's head. Fawad deserves some credit for giving the ball good air even after being hit for runs early on. Big hearted player!

    He needs a couple of good performances to get consistent backing from Clarke and then there will be no looking back.

  • Biggus on September 9, 2013, 4:20 GMT

    After Warne every leggie will be viewed with reference to him, but that wasn't always the case. Fawad's not a bad spinner, and in fact given some chances and some confidence could turn out to be a very useful player, but at the moment Lyon MUST be well ahead with regard to the series down under. I didn't think Fawad bowled all that well last night and I've seen him bowl far better, but it was a serviceable performance against an admittedly lacklustre opposition. If the rest of your bowling attack is keeping things tight then you can afford a potentially wayward leggie, but given the injuries to our bowlers and the possibility that MJ will play in Brisbane I don't think we can risk Fawad if we want to be able to build pressure against England, besides the fact that despite his detractors Lyon is actually a pretty good test bowler and less likely to leak easy runs than the leggie. Whether the selectors will see things this way remains to be seen.

  • on September 13, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    'In addition to runs on the board, a spinner is also aided by the pouching of early wickets with the new ball. '

    Well, Tredwell got his wicket in the 21st over of the innings, and his own 4th over. Fawad got his wicket in the last over he bowled, and the 44th over the innings!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on September 12, 2013, 20:16 GMT

    Have to say from what I've seen of Fawad so far I'd say that Lyon's better than Ahmed, and that's saying something. Ahmed lacks control and could be seriously found out in the longer form of the game.

  • on September 10, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    wel every1 today saeed ajmal is world's best spinner.all of you may know once hussy smashed 21 runs of ajmals one over.in almost every 2nd match Ashwin get punished but stil playing. I think time is a best teacher.so plz give him time.

  • SirViv1973 on September 10, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    @electric_loco_WAP4 (And yesterday's showing when he had the Eng batsmen totaly at sea and look clueless vs his spin, is a hint of his talent and why he is among the best spinners in the world). For the Umteenth time this year you seem to have been watching a diffierent cricketer to rest of us. Fawad was blasted out of the attack by Morgan & KP who took 23 off his first 2 overs! his figs only became semi respectable when he came back later in the inns when the seamers had already settled the match. There were a number of Aus players who performed well in this game but Fawad was not one of them!

  • Haleos on September 10, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    @ likeintcricket - It seems you are new to cricket and heard about shane warne's first match and then his career today. It is an insult to warnie if you compare him to Fawad. Moreover - the underlining word in your comment was INDIA. Shane struggled throughout his career against India but still is the best leggie of modern times. Fawad is a player who played on streets before the fast track. It just shows desperation that CA is in right now or lack of confidence in the existing players.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on September 10, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    If Fawad has been fast tracked been in Aus side, that implies 2 things: a) Spin cupboard is bare b) And if Fawad has been getting lot of domestic wickets in shield cricket, then no wonder Aus batsmen are so ill equipped to deal with even slightly better international spinner like Ashwin, Jadeja, Robbie Paterson, Duminy, Monty, Hafeez, Rahman alikes leave alone Ajmal & Swann.

  • BrienD on September 10, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    I am proud of Australia. However as it should be for our government, it should be the same for all our industries; let us keep religion out of it all. I have to admit I am quite surprised that the team agrees with Ahmed not wearing the uniform. We enter a dangerous slippery slope.

  • on September 10, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    Brad Hogg was a marvellous wrist spinner in the short form of the game, and there's one thing he proved above all else - quality bowling and success in ODI cricket indicates little about your ability in Test cricket. Bowling a mixed bag of variations in leg spin works well in short form cricket, where the batsmen are coming after you and beating them just slightly can result in a top edge or a missed slog hitting the wickets... but in Test cricket there's so much more to it. Australia has made the mistake too many times of thinking that good ODI success justifies a spot in the Test team. Let's let Ahmed play a second good shield season, and then start talking about a baggy green.

  • lisadb99 on September 10, 2013, 1:36 GMT

    He took one fluke of a wicket and otherwise got tonked. Bring back Nathan Lyon.

  • hmmmmm... on September 10, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    There is a better bowler than Lyon and Ahmed...SOK! But he doesn't get along with Clarke...

  • MinusZero on September 10, 2013, 0:04 GMT

    I dont see encouragement from his first ODI, unless they are looking for another pie-chucker

  • on September 9, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    He will create the history in Australian Cricket, He is just in pressure as whole world watching him

  • likeintcricket on September 9, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    @ Haleos, you probably is new to cricket. Shane Warne, arguably the greatest spinner of all times has figures of 1/150 and 0/78 in his first two Test matches against a visiting Indian side in Australia and was dropped in the fifth Test. A guy who was given the fast tracked citizenship just to play for Australia, arguably the best cricket country, is speaks for itself. He might given away few runs during his first speel but he bowled much better deliveries latter on and finished the game in style.

  • malepas on September 9, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    I think Australia is lucky to have found this leggy, he seems very impressive and know what he is doing, Australia should invest in him and have faith in him and should play him the test series and he will provide them very significant success, especially, in Sydney and Ad'd, he will be handful.

  • Chris_P on September 9, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    @Jono Makim. The guys you tossed up were all selected in their youth who could give at least 10 years service, the sense of promise as much as anything else, plus they had been solid performers in their development years. The same courtesy given to Fawad has not been given to more worthy contenders & after 2 very ordinary efforts with the touring A team he gets the main spinner's nod? On this point we don't agree, but cheers. I hope he performs in our domestic season to really earn his spot, but somehow I just don't see it.

  • SyedAreYouDumb on September 9, 2013, 15:18 GMT

    Guys give him time, he can bowl well as you saw in second t20 and the second spell in this match. I am sure he will prove his doubters wrong because when has someone been fast-tracked to play for a country like him? There has to be something that we havnt seen of him but Australia have.

  • Haleos on September 9, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    @Daniel Brettig - 7 overs 55 for 1 and you claim the dice has rolled in is favor? Seriously? It would be considered a very bad spell even in back garden cricket and we are talking an ODI here.

  • johnathonjosephs on September 9, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    This pursuit of a new Warne by Australia is really hurting them. Lyon is by far the best bowler in the country, yet the board continues to play mind games with him by looking for someone better. The grass is not always greener on the other side and by doing this to Lyon, they will only be hurting his confidence.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on September 9, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    Welcome to the new Shane Warne ! And yesterday's showing when he had the Eng batsmen totaly at sea and look clueless vs his spin, is a hint of his talent and why he is among the best spinners in the world . Infact ,if he is not already the 2nd best in the world after Ajmal . So,this Ashes Aus go in with comfortably the best pace attack and after a long while the far better spinner as well . Only for tghe home bats to pick 400 + vs Eng bowlers in every 1st inngs of each test and let their bowlers deliver the wins in most if not all games this Ashes by comfortable margins . And best of all, the Ashes will be back after a while as well !

  • John-Price on September 9, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    Strange article. He was most expensive bowler in a high scoring match and never seemed to turn the ball much or to be baffling anybody. Imran Tahir kept springing to mind.

  • Essex_Man on September 9, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    It would be a wonderful story, and a great source of inspiration to others, if Fawad makes it in international cricket. But I'm afraid that, on current evidence, he looks to be nothing more than a decent club bowler; he' s almost as poor as Agar. I can't believe that there aren't better spinners in Australia.

  • yorkshire-86 on September 9, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    Ahmed had a horrible game. He got carted all over, bowled far too many full tosses and half trackers, and his only wicket was a slog in desperation with the game virtually lost for the batsman. Only Carberry looked more not an international class player!

  • wellrounded87 on September 9, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    I see no reason why this guy is in the side. His story is a nice one but his talent isn't at the level to warrant his selection. O'Keefe, Lyon, Boyce and Agar all have outperformed him over the last 12 months yet he gets a spot probably more because of his background than his actual talent.

  • OzHorse on September 9, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    His stock leg-spinner doesn't look penetrating enough to get people out. Not enough revs and hence no drift, drop, sharp turn or unexpected bounce. He didn't bowl long hops, fullies, or anything too short or too wide - yet still went for plenty. That's a bad sign. Didn't look llike getting a wicket until the lower order were trying to slog across the line.

    He did absolutely nothing to justify his selection in the limited overs squad - and after watching every ball he's bowled in the 3 matches so far, he has still done very little. He's clearly not in our best ODI X1 (weak fielder and can't bat) or even XV (squad) for that matter.

    I really wish Australia would stop using ODIs to trial players - its a slap in the face to all the players who had to wait and earnt their Australian caps, and to the paying public and the sponsors. International cricket is the pinnacle of the game - its not a practice ground. Only the best possible available should be picked.

  • SirViv1973 on September 9, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    It's still very early days & it has to be said that the jury is still very much out on whether Fawad can really make an impact at this level. If he is to have an impact then given his lack of fielding & batting ability his role within the team has to be as a strike bowler. However with the WC being played on home turf & Aus having plenty of seam bowling options (fitness permitting) I wonder how important their need for an attacking spinner really is at this point in time?

  • Biggus on September 9, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    @Charlie101:-Two spinners at the Gabba? Highly unlikely on the best seaming track in OZ, with the possible exception of Bellerive, but I'd take in Lyon for sure. MJ will likely get a cap there, and Jackson Bird would have to be in with a chance as it's his sort of track. Peter Siddle makes three quicks so that's the line-up I'd expect there with Watson and Smith to provide some variation. England's groundsmen lost their hoses over this series, but I can't see the groundsmen at the Gabba doing the same, so it should be business as usual there, very hairy for the first 1->1 1/2 sessions and a good batting track thereafter until day five when a little uneven bounce and some spin will come into play. If I were England I'd bring big Chris Tremlett along for the tour (essential at the WACA) since Jimmy Anderson's starting to look a little tired leading the attack and Broad blows hot and cold. Bresnan could do well in Brisbane given his skiddy bowling as well. This series will be interesting.

  • Shaggy076 on September 9, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    When Victoria were looking for a spinner after Holland's injury they first chose White then Muirhead after that Ahmed gets a couple of games then he is playing for Australia. As such I am sceptical of his ability, his results on the A tour were average and I can't understand why he is playing for Australia. If he is that good why didn't the Victorian selectors didn't see it.

  • ReverseSweepRhino on September 9, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    Fawad, to me, looks an average rookie. He was lucky his team posted a good total and the other bowlers did a wonderful job yesterday, or the media would have a field day making him the scapegoat had Australia lost a tight game.

    Maybe someone saw something unique in him, but if that is the case, it is buried under a lot of mediocrity. That can only be polished out by letting him have a natural development (more domestic games), rather than rushing him into the international scene, where a few bad performances can cause him to fizz out before he learns how to best use his skills.

  • Charlie101 on September 9, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    Unfortunately for Australia , the way the injuries are happening to their pool of fast bowlers they may play either Mitchel Johnson or 2 spinners at the Gabba. If I was a CA selector I might keep MJ under wraps until Perth .

  • AlanHull on September 9, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    Was Daniel Brettig watching a different game to me Fawad looked a poor spin bowler and out of his depth and took a lot of hammer. His only wicket was at a point when England were desperate and just having a wild slog. To say "the visitors would depart Manchester the happier with what they had seen of their spin bowler compared to Tredwell" is complete lunacy. Tredwell has an excellent track record in ODIs which shows this was probably a one off where as Fawad his only ODI went for 8 an over.

  • Dirk_L on September 9, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    I went back to the scorecard after reading this. It takes an Australian journalist to make Fawad look good in this match. These are the facts: Eleven bowlers were used by the two sides. Fawad's economy is worst of among all eleven. Fawad got one wicket. So or better did all but two of the other ten bowlers. Why can't Australia give Lyon some ODI experience? He's bowled 16 overs in two matches at under 5 per over. He's 25 years old. Surely that's young enough even by current Australian selection criteria.

  • MurtaMac on September 9, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    I've seen him bowl better, like the 2nd T20. I hope he is persisted with and given a decent run to show his skill. All the best Fawad!!

  • BatsmanWhoBowls on September 9, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    The way the dice have been falling in regards to preparation of Sheffield Shield pitches, Adelaide and Sydney are about the only games where we'll be certain of seeing a front-line Aussie spinner. Steve Smith will be sending down hundreds of net overs before the first test at the Gabba, because he and Clarke will probably be doing most of the spinning there. I'd put money on it they will do it all at the WACA.

  • on September 9, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    @Ram Jedendran: Agar wasn't a good spinner. He didn't turn a ball in the Ashes.

  • on September 9, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    I admire him as a person but I don't rate him highly as a spinner. Australia should be playing Lyon, Hauritz or O'Keefe.

  • Haleos on September 9, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Fawad is a street class bowler. Period. Shame on CA for lobbying so hard in the process being unjust to Lyon.

  • runout49 on September 9, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    By all means experiment with Fawad but its tough for leggies in the limited overs game. Plus its hard to see him making the World Cup team in 2015 at his age. Doherty is still Australia's best bowler in the short forms of the game.

  • punterdgr8 on September 9, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    fawad is just a club class spinner.my goodness,if australia throws it's coveted baggy green just for 'any' leggie,i bet many of the gymkhana players here in india would easily get their citizenship thanks to CA and the hilarious john inverarity who's been hell bent on destroying SOK's career(i know he's not a leggie,but a good spinner nevertheless and surprisingly a criteria for selection and unsurprisingly neglected by the 'visionary' invers).agreed that it's too early to discard him but again it's too early to write the above commemorative article.atleast india's got some respite after the rupee depriciation,weak economy,humongous poverty,insecurity and all the vices associated with the nation,the world's happiest nation is giving freebies.anyone funding my sojourn?

  • on September 9, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    no turn nothing ...compare him to some no body .....cant understand from where people comes up with such article and dont realy understand y hez playing ahead of nathan lyon .....if kp had stayed der it would have been 100 /0 in ten .......

  • Micky.Panda on September 9, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    Fawad's first class bowling average at 31 is significantly better than Lyon's, although starting at a more experienced age. I don't think we should be knocking him too much before has had the chances to show what he can do on a pitch taking a bit of spin. In this ODI he was in a containing role. Many batsmen were struggling to get him away to the boundary. Not sure the same would be true of Lyon. Interestingly he is somewhat older than Lyon.

  • warnerbasher on September 9, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Bowl him in the powerplay and see how many boundaries are hit!! Much ado about nothing. Put a VB logo on him and I might change my mind

  • on September 9, 2013, 9:42 GMT

    He uses words like smeared, slogged and mowed to make it sound like England only got some runs by playing village shots. If a large amount of the runs against him were coming from edges or chinese cuts then yes it could be argued his figures don't show the true picture, but in this case England were happy playing slightly agricultural shots because his bowling was inherantly unthreatening. The writer himself states that Fawad got the better of the conditions and yet still his figures were worse than tredwell's. From what I have seen so far he is just the latest desperate attempt by Australia to sort out the spin problem they have had since warne and macgill retired.

  • Beertjie on September 9, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    Agree @Chris_P on (September 9, 2013, 0:42 GMT), he has to earn his stripes, but as @mondotv on (September 9, 2013, 8:25 GMT) writes "a good leggie is worth his weight in gold" Is Fawad a good leggie? The jury's out, but CA have stuck their neck out, perhaps unnecessarily. He shouldn't play ahead of Lyon, but if he has a good Shield, he'd be in the mix for the last 2 tests, if Lyon isn't that effective. CA's point then would be that he's been around the team instead of on the sidelines. But is he worth it? Atm, no one can really say. If there's nothing to play for at Sydney, you might get your wish @KeeperWithABat on (September 8, 2013, 22:35 GMT). Otherwise, I wouldn't be holding my breath for that partricular scenario!

  • mzm149 on September 9, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    He is just average. That is why he didn't make it to Pakistan Cricket team.

  • DylanBrah on September 9, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    Nathan Lyon should be in the ODI squad ahead of Ahmed.

  • Chankya_Desai on September 9, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    Doesn't Australia have a good spin bowlers anymore then they have started to compromise on club class spin bowlers !!!!!

  • on September 9, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    @Chris_P, sorry mate, but I just don't buy this whole notion of Fawad having to 'earn his stripes'. He has just as much state cricket behind him as Lyon, Agar, Warner, Starc, Cummins or Pattinson did when they got their first caps. Fawad is by no means an exception as far as an inexperienced player being called into the national team goes, far from it in fact.

    For the record i'm not really sold on him as a bowler just yet and I think he'll be far more effective in the longer format where he can settle into a decent spell and work through a few plans and variations, but he is not the worst!

  • on September 9, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    1 for 55 off 7 overs and he gets this much of a write-up?! The Aussie spin bowling cupboard really is bare at the moment, they'd better wrap Nathan Lyon in cotton wool as he's the only half decent spinner they've got.

  • RajeshNaik on September 9, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    He is very mediocre. I cannot believe that he is playing for Australia in no time. I too can throw up couple of good googlies and leg breaks and I think I better seek asylum in Australia from India and get a baggy green

  • mondotv on September 9, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    @Chris_P Fawad has been fast tracked because of CA's *SEARCH FOR A TEST LEGGIE* TM. It isn't the first time this has happened either. Aus cricket hunted round for a decent leggie after Richie Benaud retired and while we had a few promising ones (including Holland, Hohns, and Warne's mentor Terry Jenner) we didn't find a regular test leggie again until Warnie (that took 30 years so don't hold your breath). Very unfortunate for Stuart MacGill. Australian cricket might have something though because a good leggie is worth his weight in gold. And Warnie was no lightweight in his hey day. However you are 100% right - just because he can bowl leggies does not make Fawad a Test class bowler. So only time will tell if this was a CA masterstroke or another deluded search for an elusive dream... a Test class Leggie.

  • on September 9, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    Fawad looks good. He is just inexperienced. He may not be Shane Warne but certianly a Mushtaq Ahmed calibre. Australia should stick with the guy.

  • milepost on September 9, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    I think on bouncier wickets like those we will see in Australia leg spin is more difficult to negotiate so that might well be something the selectors are considering. I like the look of Fawad and want to see more of him playing for Australia.

  • Geeva on September 9, 2013, 4:47 GMT

    He looked jus an average bowler..its a myth england cant play leg spin...they playerd Mishra well and Eng blitzed Kaneria out of the Pak team in 2010...Nathan Lyon def should be in the ODI team is 20 odd longer term prospects....

  • shawnboomboomdeodat on September 9, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    Fawad is yet to show the class that CA thinks he have. I cant remember when last they made so much adjustments for a player to play in their side. Lets hope he gets a 3 wicket haul before this series is finish.. Has anyone checkd out his econamy rate so far??

  • on September 9, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    First time I've really seen Fawad bowl, looked a little nervous as to be expected, but rhythm and line looked good. Doesn't look like he will be a huge turner of the leg-break, unlike traditional Oz leggies such as Warne and Macgill, maybe a more flight, top-spin and variation leggie like Kumble

  • on September 9, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    Where has Doxerty gone? I thought he was a good ODI bowler

  • Chris_P on September 9, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    Here we are at the international stage all wondering if Fawad has the tools to succeed, yet he has still to show is he has in List A class matches. I still am having extreme trouble understanding why Fawad was fast tracked into the one day team without performances to back up his inclusion. I am not knocking him as a player, but surely he has to earn his stripes just as much as others?

  • on September 9, 2013, 0:36 GMT

    What happened to Agar who is young and more accurate. He could bat aswell.

  • KeeperWithABat on September 8, 2013, 22:35 GMT

    I'd like to see Ahmed and Lyon bowl together in a match to see the havoc two different spinners might create. The changes in direction of spin might nab a few extra wickets if only one spinner was bowling.

  • OhhhhhMattyMatty on September 8, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    Australia's 2nd choice spinner compared to England's 4th. Not to mention Tredwell can bet and field better than Ahmed too!

  • on September 8, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    Well done Fawad, don't be dishearted, you are going to get wickets at large. Try more variations.

  • SyedAreYouDumb on September 8, 2013, 20:16 GMT

    One thing for certain though is that bowling legspin is much harder than bowling offspin and consequently leggies get more turn. It will be a very interesting dual between Tredwell and Fawad. Time will tell but if Fawad gets a bucket full of wickets in the remaining matches, CA selectors will probably choose him over Lyon....

  • SyedAreYouDumb on September 8, 2013, 20:16 GMT

    One thing for certain though is that bowling legspin is much harder than bowling offspin and consequently leggies get more turn. It will be a very interesting dual between Tredwell and Fawad. Time will tell but if Fawad gets a bucket full of wickets in the remaining matches, CA selectors will probably choose him over Lyon....

  • on September 8, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    Well done Fawad, don't be dishearted, you are going to get wickets at large. Try more variations.

  • OhhhhhMattyMatty on September 8, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    Australia's 2nd choice spinner compared to England's 4th. Not to mention Tredwell can bet and field better than Ahmed too!

  • KeeperWithABat on September 8, 2013, 22:35 GMT

    I'd like to see Ahmed and Lyon bowl together in a match to see the havoc two different spinners might create. The changes in direction of spin might nab a few extra wickets if only one spinner was bowling.

  • on September 9, 2013, 0:36 GMT

    What happened to Agar who is young and more accurate. He could bat aswell.

  • Chris_P on September 9, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    Here we are at the international stage all wondering if Fawad has the tools to succeed, yet he has still to show is he has in List A class matches. I still am having extreme trouble understanding why Fawad was fast tracked into the one day team without performances to back up his inclusion. I am not knocking him as a player, but surely he has to earn his stripes just as much as others?

  • on September 9, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    Where has Doxerty gone? I thought he was a good ODI bowler

  • on September 9, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    First time I've really seen Fawad bowl, looked a little nervous as to be expected, but rhythm and line looked good. Doesn't look like he will be a huge turner of the leg-break, unlike traditional Oz leggies such as Warne and Macgill, maybe a more flight, top-spin and variation leggie like Kumble

  • shawnboomboomdeodat on September 9, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    Fawad is yet to show the class that CA thinks he have. I cant remember when last they made so much adjustments for a player to play in their side. Lets hope he gets a 3 wicket haul before this series is finish.. Has anyone checkd out his econamy rate so far??

  • Geeva on September 9, 2013, 4:47 GMT

    He looked jus an average bowler..its a myth england cant play leg spin...they playerd Mishra well and Eng blitzed Kaneria out of the Pak team in 2010...Nathan Lyon def should be in the ODI team is 20 odd longer term prospects....