New Zealand news February 10, 2014

Ryder dropped for Wellington Test

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Jesse Ryder and Doug Bracewell will not be considered for the second Test against India in Wellington, New Zealand coach Mike Hesson has said. Ryder and Bracewell, who were in the squad for the first Test, are under investigation by New Zealand Cricket for staying out late at an Auckland bar the night before that match began.

"We'll be naming our second Test side tomorrow or maybe later on today and neither Jesse Ryder nor Doug Bracewell will be available for selection," Hesson said.

Bracewell suffered a broken foot during that period which ruled him out of any cricket for a while. He returned to his hometown Napier, while Ryder made an unbeaten century for Otago in an ongoing Plunket Shield match against Central Districts in Nelson.

Hesson declined to say anything on the duo's future while the investigation was underway but added that he expected players to make "good decisions" about their preparation ahead of a game.

"There's an investigation taking place and we'll let that run its course before making any bold statements about that sort of thing. Once we get the full information and facts, we'll be in a far better position to make a statement. It's important we don't jump to conclusions without getting the full facts.

"We need to make sure all our players prepare themselves accordingly for Test cricket and at the moment we don't have confidence that that's the case.

"We have faith in our players that they make good decisions around their preparation. We're dealing with grown men so if a player was to have a beer with their meal before a game we don't have an issue with that at all. These are grown men who can make decisions. There's a bit difference between that and what occurred the night before the Test."

Bracewell and Ryder have had a history of disciplinary issues. During the series against South Africa in March 2012, both were dropped from the ODI team after breaking team protocol, following the match in Napier. In November last year, Bracewell was dropped from the Central Districts side for an HRV Cup game after a late night out.

The ODI against South Africa in Napier in March 2012 was also the last match Ryder played for New Zealand until his recent comeback against West Indies. Following the incident, the batsman decided to take an indefinite break from cricket. In March 2013, Ryder was assaulted outside a bar in Christchurch and spent two days in a medically induced coma before making a recovery. In August 2013, he was given a retrospective six-month ban for failing a routine drug test while playing domestic cricket.

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  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 8:45 GMT

    Like SimonDoull says "there is a time to drink but there are times you don´t drink". The eve of a test match is a time you don´t drink even if you are just selected as a backup. Such a great shame really, A well behaving Ryder in the side could have made an improving test side into a really good one. Now it is doubtful it will ever happen!

  • POSTED BY on | February 11, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    George Best? bad example come on.

  • POSTED BY khs_shk2000 on | February 11, 2014, 18:31 GMT

    It looks that NZ want India to win 2nd test. Jesse dropped , Taylor going for his child birth, Sodhi is playing , what nonsense is going on?

  • POSTED BY on | February 11, 2014, 1:31 GMT

    I disagree with everyone here. Sir Garfield Sobers described one of his best innings as being scored after a night on the tiles. Billy Ibadullah took a double stiff drink out to Glenn Turner on the field when Turner scored his 100th 1st-class 100. Turner went on to score 311 all in one day. The idea that perfect sobriety is at the heart of good performance is nonsense. Jimmy Greaves (England's star soccer striker) and George Best are other good examples. BTW, McCullum needs to learn how to set a good field for a leg spinner of Sodhi's class. His captain has not served Sodhi well.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 23:32 GMT

    Sam Fischer, A leggie should be able to turn it both ways. The one thing NZ does not need is to do take a step back and go all one dimensional with a off spinner. I wish people would not try to plug holes before they are a real issue. As for Ryder, I can't see what the fuss is all about. He wasn't set to play, Taylor's missus was only due to give birth sometime after the 1st test. So everyone's crying about Big Jesse preparing for a Test he was going to play...Get a god damn grip and move on.

  • POSTED BY gcblackcapsfan on | February 10, 2014, 23:28 GMT

    @Torbjorn Swenson Are you serious ?? Jesse Ryder best batsman NZ have got - better than Ross better than kane? Dream on!!! Jesse Ryder may deserve a spot in the test side but it would never be at the expense of Taylor and Williamson. These 2 are world class batsman, Jesse is not.

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | February 10, 2014, 23:18 GMT

    I for one was thrilled to see Ryder recover from his injuries last year, and make such a strong comeback into domestic, then international cricket.

    To see him now fall off the bandwagon is very disappointing. I really can't see his career picking up now on an international scale. He has also damaged his IPL stocks in my opinion. If he does get back into the fold, it will be a miracle.

    Really disappointed in you Jesse. You should have known better.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | February 10, 2014, 20:23 GMT

    It's sad as well for Ryder because there is a serious chance for him to wt back in te test side. Fulton and Rutherford are struggling and with some shuffling, it is more than a possibility the selectors were considering him. Ryder has to ask himself, do I want to be a test cricketer? Because te sad thing is, there is a opportunity there

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 20:15 GMT

    @Greatest_game Agree with you that Jesse should have been picked ahead of Fulton. I Think in normal cercumstances Jesses selection would be a no brainer because he is the best batsman NZ have got. Better than Ross, Better than Kane. The problem is he is considered to be a liability which he proved the eve Before the test. Despite Everything that has happened in the past NZ cricket should do Everything they can to get him back in the side. He obviously wants to be there and should get the backing to make this work.

  • POSTED BY DJRNZ on | February 10, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    To anyone saying this guy needs help and the NZC should stand by him - Yes Jesse does need help and I feel for the guy as he does have some big issues. But time and again NZC has tried and the guy just doesn't take responsibility and even though nothing happened this time he puts himself in those situations where they can.

    Even his manager who has stood by him for years has walked away. I want nothing more than to see this guy playing but enough is enough. Yes he is an adult but he is an international sportsman and very high profile in the cricketing world and NZC can't be seen letting this stuff fly.

    For me he lacks respect for his team mates and the silver fern. He ain't a young bloke any more so can't use the excuse boys will be boys etc. There have just been too many times now.

    Bracewell? Well who cares about him - rip up his contract and give it to someone who will take it seriously.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 8:45 GMT

    Like SimonDoull says "there is a time to drink but there are times you don´t drink". The eve of a test match is a time you don´t drink even if you are just selected as a backup. Such a great shame really, A well behaving Ryder in the side could have made an improving test side into a really good one. Now it is doubtful it will ever happen!

  • POSTED BY on | February 11, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    George Best? bad example come on.

  • POSTED BY khs_shk2000 on | February 11, 2014, 18:31 GMT

    It looks that NZ want India to win 2nd test. Jesse dropped , Taylor going for his child birth, Sodhi is playing , what nonsense is going on?

  • POSTED BY on | February 11, 2014, 1:31 GMT

    I disagree with everyone here. Sir Garfield Sobers described one of his best innings as being scored after a night on the tiles. Billy Ibadullah took a double stiff drink out to Glenn Turner on the field when Turner scored his 100th 1st-class 100. Turner went on to score 311 all in one day. The idea that perfect sobriety is at the heart of good performance is nonsense. Jimmy Greaves (England's star soccer striker) and George Best are other good examples. BTW, McCullum needs to learn how to set a good field for a leg spinner of Sodhi's class. His captain has not served Sodhi well.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 23:32 GMT

    Sam Fischer, A leggie should be able to turn it both ways. The one thing NZ does not need is to do take a step back and go all one dimensional with a off spinner. I wish people would not try to plug holes before they are a real issue. As for Ryder, I can't see what the fuss is all about. He wasn't set to play, Taylor's missus was only due to give birth sometime after the 1st test. So everyone's crying about Big Jesse preparing for a Test he was going to play...Get a god damn grip and move on.

  • POSTED BY gcblackcapsfan on | February 10, 2014, 23:28 GMT

    @Torbjorn Swenson Are you serious ?? Jesse Ryder best batsman NZ have got - better than Ross better than kane? Dream on!!! Jesse Ryder may deserve a spot in the test side but it would never be at the expense of Taylor and Williamson. These 2 are world class batsman, Jesse is not.

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | February 10, 2014, 23:18 GMT

    I for one was thrilled to see Ryder recover from his injuries last year, and make such a strong comeback into domestic, then international cricket.

    To see him now fall off the bandwagon is very disappointing. I really can't see his career picking up now on an international scale. He has also damaged his IPL stocks in my opinion. If he does get back into the fold, it will be a miracle.

    Really disappointed in you Jesse. You should have known better.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | February 10, 2014, 20:23 GMT

    It's sad as well for Ryder because there is a serious chance for him to wt back in te test side. Fulton and Rutherford are struggling and with some shuffling, it is more than a possibility the selectors were considering him. Ryder has to ask himself, do I want to be a test cricketer? Because te sad thing is, there is a opportunity there

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 20:15 GMT

    @Greatest_game Agree with you that Jesse should have been picked ahead of Fulton. I Think in normal cercumstances Jesses selection would be a no brainer because he is the best batsman NZ have got. Better than Ross, Better than Kane. The problem is he is considered to be a liability which he proved the eve Before the test. Despite Everything that has happened in the past NZ cricket should do Everything they can to get him back in the side. He obviously wants to be there and should get the backing to make this work.

  • POSTED BY DJRNZ on | February 10, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    To anyone saying this guy needs help and the NZC should stand by him - Yes Jesse does need help and I feel for the guy as he does have some big issues. But time and again NZC has tried and the guy just doesn't take responsibility and even though nothing happened this time he puts himself in those situations where they can.

    Even his manager who has stood by him for years has walked away. I want nothing more than to see this guy playing but enough is enough. Yes he is an adult but he is an international sportsman and very high profile in the cricketing world and NZC can't be seen letting this stuff fly.

    For me he lacks respect for his team mates and the silver fern. He ain't a young bloke any more so can't use the excuse boys will be boys etc. There have just been too many times now.

    Bracewell? Well who cares about him - rip up his contract and give it to someone who will take it seriously.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | February 10, 2014, 19:58 GMT

    Team discipline is overrated. All these are used to control players than make a winning team. Every team will have odd players , you just have to manage until he do not perform well in the match.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | February 10, 2014, 19:33 GMT

    New Zealand's handling of Ryder is not any different from ECB's handling of KP. Such a shame! Ryder needs help, not punishments.

  • POSTED BY sillypointandshortleg on | February 10, 2014, 19:30 GMT

    Suggest that people read Sir Garfield Sober's biography. I'm not implying that Ryder is in the same league as him in terms of cricketing talent; just in the drinking!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    If NZ take Ryder back again, as good a player as he is, they are out of their minds. Being a player in a Test team is not for novices; they are professionals.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 17:52 GMT

    he dont learn last time he went out he had his head kicked in he is a good player but just too thick may its time to go

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | February 10, 2014, 17:49 GMT

    Yeah I like mccullum to have a crack ahead of sodhi. He won't leak nearly as much. And guptill for Fulton.

  • POSTED BY TestOfTime on | February 10, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    It is kind of sad to see such a good talent fall by the way side by such repeated drunken episodes. Going by the number of drunken episodes, he seems to have a drinking issue. Though in this case he was out knowing that he wont be playing the next morning (despite being a backup I am sure he knew his chances of playing the next day), the management may not take it as an isolated event.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | February 10, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    There is a massive difference between having a drink, and getting drunk. There is also a massive difference between treating a team like schoolboys, and treating them like adults. Fact is, NZ should have picked Ryder over Rutherford or Fulton, both of whom failed miserably, again. If Ryder knew he was playing, he would probably have been in bed early, eager for the test. Instead, he was passed over for 2 out of form plodders, and they scored nothing while he scored 100* for Otago after - gasp - having a drink in a bar.

    New Zealand are intent on crushing one of their greatest talents ever. Fine management! No wonder they are at the bottom of the rankings, despite their very good teams.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 16:29 GMT

    Every Board should have a small team of professional "counsellors" who can help out with the problems of their young talented players.

    What such players need is NOT punishment, but understanding, advice and professional counselling. Players with various degrees of such issues exist in every national team. With the "pressure cooker" type atmosphere prevailing in modern cricket, the chances of such occurrences are high.

    Can't the Boards spend some resources to clean up and polish such diamonds to regain the lustre, and through them, the team's glory? Is it too much to ask?

    In a different context altogether, I had asked a rhetorical question. "Would a leader like Mike Brearley have salvaged their best batsman in recent years; KP? "

    I am commenting on the larger issue; not just Ryder's alone!

  • POSTED BY LifeWithBoundaries on | February 10, 2014, 15:58 GMT

    Good Grief guys! Some people just don't learn!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    good luck to both teams - I hope to see a great match, fan from Bangladesh

  • POSTED BY jerryman on | February 10, 2014, 13:48 GMT

    Believe NZ may want to replace one or both of their openers. Guptil should be given a chance . Another batting collapse like the second innings could cost them a series win. Also Nathan McCullum could replace Sothi . He is a better bat as well. good luck and hold on to your nerves and you could beat the # 2 side .. Its nice when the underdogs in the rankings upset a bigger ranking team.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    @Venkatesh018 - yeah, well, the pace bowler will be the 4th or 5th bowler and is replacing Ish Sidhi IF he gets to play... so they will want someone in form and who can bat too... so they will go with Neesham (and maybe Latham if not Guptill) as the two replacements.... Neesham got 147 off 133 balls today (Nathan McCullum and Ryder got first ball ducks) and took four wickets in the first innings... naming him for Sodhi, especially versus India, will simply strengthen our line-up. Taylor coming out for Latham is the scary call... albeit that Latham is ironically better than Fulton and Rutherford... thus we still have yet to get balance right... I would play Neesham, Guptill and Ryder instead of Sodhi, Fulton, Rutherford, but we know that won't happen now... so just bring in Latham and Neesham and let's give it our absolute all to beat this trumped-up bunch of spoil sports and send them back to the land of greed and avarice with this series won (1-0 or 2-0, don't mind). Go the Black Caps

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    I also hope the comment "Ryder needs to choose his friends more wisely" is a reference to Bracewell and not the Neesham / Ryder footage. Neesham was not playing that day nor did he play till the fourth ODI a couple of days later. He was, in fact, also sober and Ryder's appointed 'minder'. Almost certainly an unfair job for a 23 year-old until you see he remained sober and spotting trouble, threw a kiwi hero and large, older man quite easily into the back of a cab with a mix of speed, calm, strength, cunning, verbal coaxing and a minimum of fuss! I was very impressed. On Ryder himself? I just pray we (he is SO valuable) can see him come out of all this.... It's head-down time now, which will mean a dose of perspective to be delivered by Martin Crowe or someone trusted / similar. He could be a vegetable after that attack on him - or worse. Thus any form of lack of gratitude or events that reflect it are toxic for his reputation... as we are seeing. The media feel duped. He will atone.

  • POSTED BY venkatesh018 on | February 10, 2014, 13:18 GMT

    Unfortunate Bracewell wont be there at the Basin. With Corey Anderson's bowling form dipping alarmingly in Auckland, NZ need to beef up their pace attack. They should replace Sodhi in the XI for the second Test, preferably with a right hand fast bowler(Williamson can bowl a few overs of spin, any way). My vote will be for either Matt Henry or a full fit Adam Milne.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 13:14 GMT

    Even if Ryder and Bracewell wont play still New Zealand will win the Match and Series

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    @Vinay Patel.... use Flynn? Henry? That first option is ridiculous. But very amusing XD They will bring in Latham and Neesham - as they should. The oracle has spoken - again.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Great post kiwicricketnut - 100% agree and your Neesham option for Sodhi I like even tho having a leg spinner excites me - India is probably the worst team to blood him against and as negative as its sounds - winning a series is our first priority....

  • POSTED BY lightpace on | February 10, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    I think its a very good example NZ board setting up for other boards and players... a player cant be bigger or valuable then discipline, image and character of a team, no matter how good he is... Players and officials better know their boundaries - so stay with in it and play with in it...

  • POSTED BY Anubhav-the-Experience on | February 10, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    What a waste of talent....

  • POSTED BY linsen on | February 10, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    He is one of my favourite player. he is naturally talented but idk why he always invlove in such like issues? he is exteremly lucky that his fan see him playing again but he never know his worth

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    I hope people saw the video footage of a staggering Ryder with a young Neesham shouldering him into a taxi whilst police officers watched on to make sure nothing bad happened... I mean come on what a waste of public resources, not to mention how he is setting a bad example leading Bracewell astray to injure himself AGAIN.

    People need to realize that Ryder has had way to many 'final warnings' and if NZC let him back into the squad then it shows how gutless and pointless their discipline is.

  • POSTED BY rajuramki on | February 10, 2014, 11:26 GMT

    However talented a cricketer may be , he has to be disciplined to remain in the game for a long time. Time and again , Ryder has shown his addiction to liquor and brawls in a bar . The selectors have given enough oppurtunities for Ryder to redeem himself bur that is never going to happen . It is high time they get rid of him from the team so that he does not spread this decease to others.

  • POSTED BY KiwiPom on | February 10, 2014, 11:01 GMT

    I note that the powers that be, whilst chastising two players for over-indulging in alcoholic beverages, aren't averse to accepting sponsorship from one of the major players in the trade that brews the self-same drink. Or maybe this is the real issue - the brewery doesn't wish to be shown up in bad light?

  • POSTED BY shane-oh on | February 10, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Another massive over reaction. The wowsers are winning the battle over common sense.

    Note, interestingly, that the NZ media continue the despicable act of listing Ryder being violently assaulted by thugs under his list "disciplinary issues".

    Must have been a slow news day back home, I'd suggest if the media hadn't made another mountain out of another molehill then NZC would have dealt with this in a more rational way.

  • POSTED BY featurewriter on | February 10, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    Ryder is a very talented batsman; sadly, he's also a fractured and vulnerable human being. He needs to be managed - but he also needs to accept responsibility for his own actions and outcomes. Bracewell, however, is an overrated cricketer. If his first-class averages of 22 with the bat and 35 with the ball were reversed, then he'd be worth the investment. I'd like to see Ronchi get a crack with the bat.

  • POSTED BY kiwicricketnut on | February 10, 2014, 8:59 GMT

    not going to miss bracewell at all, he didn't deserve to be selected in the first place but jesse's talent will be missed with rutherford a fulton failing, he was a shoe in and as only jesse can, blew it, we were so close to having the strogest available xi and now we don't, so frustrating as a fan, i wont put the boot into jesse, it wont achieve anything, i know martin crowe offered to help him out, my only hope is jesse takes that offer and sorts this out once and for all, jesse should know he has a target on his back after dark, the public will always be on his case, so why he baits the hook is a mystery to me. my squad of 12 for the last test would be 1.guptill 2.latham 3.williamson 4.taylor 5.mccullum 6.anderson 7.watling 8.southee 9.sohdi 10.wagner 11.boult 12.henry, possible swap, henry for sohdi but i think the spinner should be perservered with, neesham would be another good option making it even harder for india to take 20 nz wickets and draw the series

  • POSTED BY android_user on | February 10, 2014, 8:56 GMT

    Ryder should play regardless. Id play him while he drank on the boundary from a bottle of rum. He's damn good.

  • POSTED BY BradmanBestEver on | February 10, 2014, 8:51 GMT

    The guy is not the full picnic basket. Clearly NZ need all the talent they can get but to persevere with someone who is a couple of cans short of a six pack is a waste of time for NZ cricket

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 8:49 GMT

    Seems to be a lot of unwarranted favouritism towards Ryder on here, just because he happens to be more talented.

    The fact is Ryder has had more chances than Bracewell over the years, and yet he continues to make the same mistakes.

    Even worse, he was the 12th man, absolutely ridiculous!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    I am sure many are sad and disappointed that Ryder has again broken team protocols. It's sad that he has shown no sign of remorse. Is he unable to break a habit, or is his ego so huge that he refuses to change? Has he responded to his advisers or coach? No good sportsman can improve without self-discipline and in a team sport like cricket, you must be a team player on and off the field. I don't foresee Ryder being reinstated. He is on the brink...and barring a miracle, there is no return. Very sad indeed.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | February 10, 2014, 8:29 GMT

    @ knightryder.........all NZ fans do not support Jesse Ryder, In fact many many fans have now had enough. His alcoholic antics are a terrible role model for young players and NZ have just beaten one of the worlds best sides without him. Once Jesse has grown up and given up the booze, we'll welcome him back into this positive team environment that we currently have.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 7:17 GMT

    The best advice to the selectors and coaches is probably for them to dismiss both Ryder and Bracewell from any consideration again - ever. Sadly, Jesse appears to be totally beyond redemption. Perhaps Doug might be saved from himself but it's doubtful. The fast medium bowlers currently in the test team and others knocking on the door are superior to him or are better prospects.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    these two are really going to have to do something special to convince the NZ test squad to let them back into the fold, personally I don't think either deserves another chance, ryder got back into test reckoning too soon anyway, what these two need is a dose of real work, like working on an ashphalt gang for a month to gain some 'clarity'. Unfortuantely due to the IPL jesse may already be made. bracewell however is that dense that he is doing this without a financial base to fall back on for later life.

  • POSTED BY knightryder on | February 10, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    Mr Ryder, all nz cricket fans support you and wish you the best for dealing with these issues. You will have to humbly accept what sanctions come now. Please stay positive and do your best to put these things behind you. You have come through much more difficult things then this. Good luck brother.

    Mr Bracewell, you are obviously a talented bowler. However, there is a line forming behind Messers Southie, Boult, and Wagner which goes in no particular order... Milne, Henry, Mclenaghan, Bennet. Unfortunately you have just bought a ticket to the back of the line. You may or may not get another shot. I wish you the best.

  • POSTED BY SameOld on | February 10, 2014, 6:25 GMT

    Dammit, Jesse! When will he learn? This is not about NZ treating players like kids, it's about these guys signing contracts with behaviour clauses and then not following through and doing what they have agreed to. It's unacceptable and it leaves management with nowhere to go.

    Bracewell, who cares? The guy is wasting his moderate talents, as many have done before him. NZ have better options available now anyway: Henry and Milne for a start. Jesse is wasting quite considerable talent, and we fans just want to see him back on the team and doing well. Such a shame that he keeps letting himself down.

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | February 10, 2014, 5:55 GMT

    The guys gets almost killed in a brawl that occurred at late night in a pub. What does he do? Ends up at the same place when his team is about to play a 5 days test match. Not befitting a professional player. What happened with Jesse if it was to happen to any ordinary folk he would have thought twice before staying late and boozing. We are talking about an international cricketer here. Clearly his priorities are not right, he doesn't seem to have got over his bad habits, certainly doesn't choose his friends wisely and is not serious about his game and career. I guess 1 test match ban is too soft and NZ authorities are sending a wrong signal to Jesse and others with it. No one player can be allowed to grow bigger then the game or the team. Time for some tough decisions!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | February 10, 2014, 5:19 GMT

    I think they have punished him for this test so nz cricket can justify his t20 World Cup selection.

  • POSTED BY Pontiac on | February 10, 2014, 4:41 GMT

    Doesn't seemed to have caused Jesse any trouble as he went and scored a century and bowled a fistful of economical overs...

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | February 10, 2014, 4:33 GMT

    To both ryder and bracewell. Guys please try to be available for future series. NZ might not need you in this series but be careful as in future with serious opposition you need be there. OK.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 4:23 GMT

    I have played rugby under the great JJ Stewart and Fred Allen, been involved with Colin Meads, let me tell you, RYDER and BRACEWELL would never represent a tiddly winks team again-ever.

    Signed 'professional sportsman'

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    This guy Ryder needs god counseling. Didn't he have a similar episode earlier? Good cricketer, an attacking batsman who can destroy an attack but clearly at odds with himself. Do please help the guy.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 3:51 GMT

    It's about time that the authorities stop treating players like school kids. Ravi Shastri once partied the whole night; the next day, he scored a hundred. Those were the days.

  • POSTED BY 12th_man on | February 10, 2014, 3:49 GMT

    Jesse, there's no doubt you're an amazing cricketer! You have the opportunity to become a good man, one who can set himself up financially, travel the world and live the dream! We all enjoy a few drinks, me included but I gave it up as it ruined my life so please don't waste this opportunity...take it mate and turn yourself in to the good man you are. Let your bat do all the talking and help us win the World Cup here next year. It starts with you.

  • POSTED BY Rafelgibt on | February 10, 2014, 3:25 GMT

    This guy is simply disgrace to New Zealand Cricket...

  • POSTED BY android_user on | February 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Ryder you have good talent and can bat in all format of cricket. you are not seeing your bright future in Team NZ. comeon man come out that habit. Try you can do it.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Pick Matt Henry (drop Sodhi for him) and use Flynn as the Taylor-backup. Also the selectors really should be picking Latham at least to replace Fulton.

  • POSTED BY Jay.Raj on | February 10, 2014, 2:32 GMT

    Oppurtunities are not appreciated by these players. SAD!!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 2:02 GMT

    At first glance, the punishment seems a bit harsh, but if the players understand the rules, it is expected of them to abide by them accordingly or face the consequences. After all, being selected to represent one's country is an honour and a privilege; not a right.

    Nonetheless, I trust they are each given a reprieve by NC and that this is not a premature (and regrettable) end to their international careers!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | February 10, 2014, 1:54 GMT

    Ryder again

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    I don't think this guy is going to learn; It is time to move on! Even Martin Crowe's assessment is wrong!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 1:11 GMT

    Fair enough. Irony is that I said at the time of selection that Bracewell's position in the squad seemed a bit inexplicable to me... and now it has cost two people their place. In Ryder's case, a certain starting spot with Taylor likely to miss the test to be with his wife for the birth of their second child. If they pick on form and class / current team set-up guys, then Guptill or Latham (one or the other), preferably Guptill, and Neesham should be named as their two replacements. Between them they cover every spot except wicket-keeper. And they are both classy and in form and part of the current set-ups anyway. Curse this sorry saga with Ryder dragging on... but I blame Bracewell for this and there is previous form / history in terms of him being the common denominator and the one who gets injured. Hangovers fade quickly, but broken bones take time to heal. Chin up Jesse.... you are class and by no means done yet bro. Even though the trolls will come in calling for your head, Yawn.

  • POSTED BY NinanTojo on | February 10, 2014, 1:00 GMT

    Dear Jesse Ryder, You are one of the best batsman in the world. I am an Indian and love to watch you bat. Please dedicate yourself to Cricket and you can do it. We your fans are there to support you. All the best. It would be pleasure to see you back, playing Test matches again.

  • POSTED BY supplydemandcurve on | February 10, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    Heavens schoolmasters. They weren't in the team; aren't children.... Are NZ officials just as stuffy as the rest? Kill all the characters won't you all! If this attitude had existed through history, half the legends of the game would have never played beyond grade cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 0:44 GMT

    Gosh, Ryder is just like KP - just without the intrigue and the 10,000 plus test runs.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 0:44 GMT

    Gosh, Ryder is just like KP - just without the intrigue and the 10,000 plus test runs.

  • POSTED BY supplydemandcurve on | February 10, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    Heavens schoolmasters. They weren't in the team; aren't children.... Are NZ officials just as stuffy as the rest? Kill all the characters won't you all! If this attitude had existed through history, half the legends of the game would have never played beyond grade cricket.

  • POSTED BY NinanTojo on | February 10, 2014, 1:00 GMT

    Dear Jesse Ryder, You are one of the best batsman in the world. I am an Indian and love to watch you bat. Please dedicate yourself to Cricket and you can do it. We your fans are there to support you. All the best. It would be pleasure to see you back, playing Test matches again.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 1:11 GMT

    Fair enough. Irony is that I said at the time of selection that Bracewell's position in the squad seemed a bit inexplicable to me... and now it has cost two people their place. In Ryder's case, a certain starting spot with Taylor likely to miss the test to be with his wife for the birth of their second child. If they pick on form and class / current team set-up guys, then Guptill or Latham (one or the other), preferably Guptill, and Neesham should be named as their two replacements. Between them they cover every spot except wicket-keeper. And they are both classy and in form and part of the current set-ups anyway. Curse this sorry saga with Ryder dragging on... but I blame Bracewell for this and there is previous form / history in terms of him being the common denominator and the one who gets injured. Hangovers fade quickly, but broken bones take time to heal. Chin up Jesse.... you are class and by no means done yet bro. Even though the trolls will come in calling for your head, Yawn.

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    I don't think this guy is going to learn; It is time to move on! Even Martin Crowe's assessment is wrong!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | February 10, 2014, 1:54 GMT

    Ryder again

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 2:02 GMT

    At first glance, the punishment seems a bit harsh, but if the players understand the rules, it is expected of them to abide by them accordingly or face the consequences. After all, being selected to represent one's country is an honour and a privilege; not a right.

    Nonetheless, I trust they are each given a reprieve by NC and that this is not a premature (and regrettable) end to their international careers!

  • POSTED BY Jay.Raj on | February 10, 2014, 2:32 GMT

    Oppurtunities are not appreciated by these players. SAD!!

  • POSTED BY on | February 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Pick Matt Henry (drop Sodhi for him) and use Flynn as the Taylor-backup. Also the selectors really should be picking Latham at least to replace Fulton.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | February 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Ryder you have good talent and can bat in all format of cricket. you are not seeing your bright future in Team NZ. comeon man come out that habit. Try you can do it.