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Narine added to West Indies Test squad

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November 28, 2013

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West Indies spinner Sunil Narine has been added to the Test squad for the tour of New Zealand in December. Narine's inclusion came after offspinner Shane Shillingford and part-time spinner Marlon Samuels were reported for suspect actions during West Indies' recent tour of India.

Shillingford and Samuels, along with West Indies coach, Ottis Gibson, are headed to Perth for independent testing on their actions. Samuels' faster ball and Shillingford's doosra were the deliveries under scrutiny during the second Test in Mumbai in November.

Both players are available for selection for the first Test in Dunedin, which begins on December 3, subject to the results of the tests on their actions. Samuels, Shillingford and Gibson are expected to join the West Indies squad in New Zealand over the weekend.

Narine has played five Tests for West Indies and taken 15 wickets at an average of 48. Two of those matches were against New Zealand, and Narine took 12 wickets in those games.

West Indies squad: Darren Sammy (capt), Denesh Ramdin (vc), Tino Best, Kraigg Brathwaite, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Sheldon Cottrell, Narsingh Deonarine, Kirk Edwards, Shannon Gabriel, Sunil Narine, Veerasammy Permaul, Kieron Powell, Marlon Samuels, Shane Shillingford, Chadwick Walton

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Posted by Rally_Windies on (December 5, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

Narine has played 5 Tests ,,,

In 1st class cricket he has been very effective ,..

Shillingford's 1st 5 Tests were MUCH worse than Narine's Shane Warne's 1st 5 tests were equally horrible ....

5 Tests at 23 does not make a career ...

if it did .. Shane Warne would have been a rubbish bowler who only played 5 Tests ....

Posted by   on (December 2, 2013, 0:23 GMT)

It is stunning to me that people are still still willing to justify Sammy's place on a W.I test squad or is it that the glory days of W.I are so long past that we have forgotten what a good test team looks like. Personally I cannot remember the last time Sammy played a "responsible innings". and as for motivator it blows my mind that a captain having his team behind the eight ball can enter the pitch, haul out, get a top edge and getting out. Are players are motivated by that? I know what i would do and how i would feel as a member of that team. quite frankly Sammy needs to go. Dwayne Bravo is a far better test player. as a captain he brings nothing special. so personally i cant see why after constant failures he remains.

Posted by looshan on (December 1, 2013, 23:39 GMT)

I like the team and the retention of Sammy as captain I also agree that Chanderpaul must be allowed to play more of a leadership role, because he seems to be the only one with the discipline to stay in the wicket to consolidate the innings when wickets start to fall. I live in New York and just wanted to ask if any one knew anything about television and or radio commentary for the Test matches.

Posted by   on (December 1, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

Sammy, as a test captain, is beyond understanding. He may be a performer on his day and nice a jovial nature, but he certainly not belongs to test. With his hit-out and get-out play he can't inspire neither himself nor the team. His dismissal in test matches against India has given much evidence that he's not a guy to lead in test.Though he could be used in playing XI with more use of his bowling. WI are suffering from the virus of "keeping one's place in XI". They seems to be a bunch of XI players who plays for the sake of playing only. I think in present test team Chanderpaul is a suitable guy to lead with experience and somewhat reliable also. They also need the inclusion of Dwayne in the test XI also so as to have more options, this also helps Dwayne in the ODI's where he has becoming an under performer. Patience is needed in test and this is always being a weak point with them, specially in batting. Now their "power era" has gone and some application is needed now.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (November 30, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

All this take of players making runs in dead rubbers. Can we name players who have scored ( except chanderpaul) when needed? That is the reason WI is rated where we are , no reliable batsmen

Posted by   on (November 30, 2013, 1:48 GMT)

With Sammy on the test team, I always feel that we are a batsman or bowler short. However, he seems to be a good motivator of men. I would like to see him bat more responsibly in crisis situations as he is the captain. Honestly, we need to find an opener and another middle order batsman soon because I can't see the likes of Chanderpaul playing for more than another two years. It's time to get Barath, Assad Fudadin or even Sarwan back in the set up. Rampaul should have made the squad but hopefully the team will perform creditably.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 29, 2013, 21:12 GMT)

People calling for Jason Holder are delusional, he's bowling slow late 70 mph with no skills (swing or seem movement) and no consistency even in short formats. Rampaul is 1 who would of added value in NZ but as Sammy plays as 4th bowler he takes that control place. Charles I don't think has ever been on radar for Tests Ramdin has been terrible I agree he has never scored in anything but dead rubbers or dead occasions never under pressure or when needed. They might as well give Walton a shot he did top score in the warm up game and it would be nice to see if he could deliver on the big stage not like he could do any worse than Ramdin.

Posted by CodandChips on (November 29, 2013, 20:58 GMT)

People should forget about Johnson Charles playing test cricket. He has a first class average of under 18!

@Non_Bias who are these bowlers who "need to be tested"?. Please explain this to me. Maybe Saeed Ajmal (although I think he's been tested)

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (November 29, 2013, 20:42 GMT)

What cricket are we watching when suggesting Charles as a test wicketkeeper? please if we want to convert a batsman into a keeper ?look no further than Simmons.

Posted by A-Gunnie on (November 29, 2013, 20:36 GMT)

Narine have shown he's not as effective with the red ball as he is with the white...I know that may not sound too sensible from a cricket's point of view but the stats speak for itself.Why have W.I killed Bissoo's career as that man who was voted ICC up rising cricketer was dropped soon after that title and was never given another shot on the team?Give him a chance in the absence of Shillingford.

Posted by indianNegro on (November 29, 2013, 19:41 GMT)

Poor Team Selection from Windies ... Jason Holder, Jhonson Charles should have been given more chance. Non performance from Deonarine, Ramdin and should have been kept out. Good decision to keep Sammy as captain and bring in Narine who can be a real handy for NZ who may not understand his bowling at all.. Windies need to cut off non-performers ..

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 18:43 GMT)

We stand a good chance of winning, as long as our batsmen play ground ball. I'm also very concern with the #6 position in the batting line up. I want to see Sammy batting there with some responsibility and Ramdin coming at #7. Sammy has to perform consistently with the bat, in order for this team to be competitive.

Posted by gudolerhum on (November 29, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

Samuels and Shillingford have appeared to be questionable even after being cleared. Best to have them checked before further questions and umpires call them in a match as is very likely.

Posted by nafzak on (November 29, 2013, 18:20 GMT)

Disagree with those who say that Ramdin should not be in team. He is WI best W/keeper plus he played well in the 2nd test match against India. Cannot say same for Sammy and some others. Cannot understand why Deonarine did not bowl more. If he is an all rounder (which he is), then he should have been given more of a chance to bowl. I blame WICB for both Shilliongford and Samuels. They should be embarassed for having this problem pop up again. Rampaul should be in the team. None of the batters, except for Shiv have proven that they are better than Sarwan or Barath, so why not bring them back?

Posted by android_user on (November 29, 2013, 16:51 GMT)

narine is the best spinner in world so west Indies chose it good design tack

Posted by lazytrini on (November 29, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Where is Rampaul? How long are we supposed to entertain Best's average bowling because he got a fluke 95 batting?

Posted by Non_Bias on (November 29, 2013, 13:45 GMT)

Why do they always pick on the West Indies for bowling action when there are many others, many many many in every other international team who i think should be tested. They also accused Narine once. Its only the BIGGER teams that can bowl and take wickets without being tested. STOP PICKING ON THE SMALLER TEAMS WITH YALL BIG EGGOS!!!

Posted by Non_Bias on (November 29, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

I think we have giving Darren Sammy enough time to prove himself in the test match format of the game. I am hoping if he doesn't perform in this New Zealand Tour that he's not only removed as the Captain but dropped from test squad. Clearly the selectors have no idea what they were doing removing him as ODI Capt. and leaving him as the test. I saw this as a bias attack on Sammy when this happened. Still cant justify how someone can be Captain of the Test team and not capable of captaining ODI's. Just makes no sense.

Posted by android_user on (November 29, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

He should have been a regular member of the team after his successful stint with Kolkata Knight Riders.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

Struggle to understand y Ramdin is still being considered for selection in any format since that he just cant make the cut. modern cricket has forced teams to produce keepers to get selected because they can score. Ramdin has consistently shown that he cant. so y select him as vice captain? So many players to replace Sammy in the test team to remove the imbalance that he causes and he's still there. Its such a shame to see West Indies play one the worst players for such a long run and as captain. I think that it is proper that Gayle should be challenged for his spot despite what he has done in the past but he really needs to perform. Darren bravo needs to stop throwing it away when he is set. looking forward to West indies bouncing back after the dreadful loss in India!

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

Narine has been mostly effective in ODIs, but he's probably the best the Windies have got. The NZ players are not very comfortable against spin and he could trouble them. Since the series is in New Zealand, the pacers will have to do most of the work in the bowling department. Chanderpaul is their best batsman and it is important for him to lead from the front. I am also expecting Samuels to do well. Braithwaite looked very ordinary when I saw him before and I don't know why they've picked him. Perhaps he has done well in domestic cricket.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (November 29, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

Narine has a first class bowling average of 21. Suggesting he is not a test player after just 5 tests is a bit quick. I think he will bounce back and be very strong. As for Shillingford and Samuels, they were banned previously for suspect actions and if found again to be suspect then I think that they should be very careful about bowling again.

Posted by SwingandSeam on (November 29, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

It is too late for this series but Sammy should step down from the Test team and play only in shorter versions. The pace attack is flimsy. Where is Jason Holder? Is he injured? Delorn Johnson should also get his chance and Tino Best really does not contribute. He is all pace but no control, even if he occasionally has his moments. Good to see Narine get his chance again though. He has not had enough time to prove himself at Test format, whereas Kirk Edwards is technically too deficient to play at this level. As for those who still call for the return of Fidel Edwards and Jerome Taylor, why stop there. Lets get back Holding, Garner, Ambrose and Walsh while we are at it.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Brathwaite is not Test standard. He just doesn't have the shots to make it. Even a defensive player needs to score *some* runs.

I'd like to see Powell and Edwards opening the innings with Bravo and Chanders coming in at 3 and 4. At 5, Chanders is playing too low, and he gets stuck hobbling with the tail too often. Samuels is better suited to that role because he can, if the situation demands it, score quite quickly with the tail while farming the strike.

Would've liked Nikita Miller and Rampaul on this tour, really. The best two spinners from this selection are Shillingford and Narine (mostly because the Kiwis don't pick him very well). Best will make it on pace. The other pacemen are all too raw to make any serious impact. Roach will be badly missed. If the Windies have to pick 20 wickets, Sammy will have to get 3-4. The conditions will favour him in New Zealand, but he needs to work on his consistency.

Perhaps time to think of Darren Bravo as captain?

Posted by android_user on (November 29, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

where is Ravi Rampaul? surely west Indies best fast bowler of the recent odi series should be on this side.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

I think Test team should be 1. Brathwaite 2. Powell (C) 3. Edwards 4. Chandrapaul 5. Daren Bravo 6. Samules 7. Chadwcik walton wk 8. Shillingford 9. Sunil Naraine/Best 10 . Cottrell 11. Gabriel 12th Ramdin . I would also want that this be 11 and when gayle comes back he should come in place of Edwards if Edwards doesnot perform .

I think Oneday Team should be 1. Powell (C) 2. Charles wk 3. Gayle 4. Darren Bravo 5. Samuels 6.Simmons 7.Jonathan Carter 8.Sunil Naraine 9. Ravi Rampaul 10. Kemar Roach 11. Tino Best

T20 team should be 1. Dwayne Smith 2. Charles (wk) 3. Gayle 4.Dareen Bravo 5.Samuels 6. Pollard 7. Dwayne Bravo 8. Sammy 9. Naraine 10. Roach 11. Best/ Edwards

Posted by 11_Warrior on (November 29, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

Why not Dewine Bravo in the team?

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 7:40 GMT)

I would like to see the following changes:

Firstly, the ODI team must include Dwayne Smith. Secondly, the Test Team must include Sarwan and Rampaul (once he is fit). Thirdly, Sammy must quit test and only play ODI and T20. Fourthly, Walton should play at least one Test to see if he makes the cut.

Posted by sevugapandian on (November 29, 2013, 6:44 GMT)

Narine is very good spinner, his inclusion makes West Indies to strengthen further.

Posted by windiespalm on (November 29, 2013, 6:22 GMT)

I haven't commented here in a long time, but the failure to select Rampaul for these NZ test matches shows how rubbish the WI selectors are. No need to say more.

Posted by Blade_Runners_Father on (November 29, 2013, 5:47 GMT)

Well India was a bit too difficult but I bet right now they have the team to whitewash SL in SL. As WI has all 11 players who play as a team and sadly SL has 1-2. But problem is SL doesn't play test matches anymore and they canceled their last series with WI to play an ODI series. May be they were aware about the results if they play Test matches. Hmmm

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 5:32 GMT)

When I looked the previous comment on Darren Bravo should be on the team, I would question that because he has not perform against good teams--He is a wanna be Brian Lara--I would rather see them (WI CB) gave Kirk edwards a chance. As for the Fast bowling, get rid of Tino Best he has Brawn but no brains, he does not know how to setup the batsman--what happen to Jerome Taylor, Fidel edwards and Kemar Roach? Politics as usual I guess

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

Let's get real!! pace without line & length is a feast for good batsmen all day long. these WI pace bowlers ain't gonna trouble no top batsman. we keep going back to the days of old. wake up people spin is our strength at the moment. go with your best 6 bat, wk,2 pace and 2 spin and pray. it's a waste of time having an extra pace who only bowled under 15 overs an innings per 100 overs in test cricket...

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 4:45 GMT)

ohh really..someone here thinks that had narine been thr in test team you would hav whitewashed India in test series ?? ! wat about one dayers then....?? he was thr for all 3 games n limited overs had been narines specialized area ..still we won the series ! with very few exceptions ;a single performer cant win the games for a team in cricket ..especially in test cricket and unless WI batsmen (minus chanders n darren bravo) learn to come out of t20 mode and to steady themselves non crease before going for big shots ; WI wouldnt b able to make it to elite league of test teams . about Narines selection now, def. narine and shillingford together make a strong spin attack but for NZ pitches they need a strong pace attack more and dont understand y they hav been omitting their current best pacer, Ravi rampaul :(

Posted by   on (November 29, 2013, 2:35 GMT)

Quite honestly WI selectors still DON'T get it! Rampaul is WI best bowler bar none so why is he been made to suffer. He looks like he's in the best shape of his life and back it up by been the most outstanding fast bowler on the Indian tour. After that demolition in India. Brathwaite, who does not give up his wicket was a given whether Gayle injury or not. I'm interested in seeing the line up for the first test hopefully not the same mind boggling 1 we been displaying recently. My knowledge of cricket said the best 11 on tour Brathwaite, Powell, Edwards, Chanderpaul, Bravo, Samuels, Ramdin, Sammy cpt,got no choice,Narine, Shillingford and the two best of the three fast bowlers base on net practices: Best/Gabriel/Cottrell. { CPT SAMMY PLEASE CHANGE UP YOUR BATTING LINE UP WHEN IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TEAM.} wish you'll much success on this NZ tour....

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (November 29, 2013, 1:22 GMT)

We have had many captains in the last 20 years, and pretty much the same results:

Team Record with Sammy as Captain in Tests Matches: 26 Won: 8 Lost: 9 Drawn: 9 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Reifer as Captain in Tests Matches: 2 Won: 0 Lost: 2 Drawn: 0 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Gayle as Captain in Tests Matches: 20 Won: 3 Lost: 9 Drawn: 8 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Ganga as Captain in Tests Matches: 2 Won: 0 Lost: 2 Drawn: 0 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Sarwan as Captain in Tests Matches: 4 Won: 0 Lost: 2 Drawn: 2 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Chanderpaul as Captain in Tests Matches: 14 Won: 1 Lost: 10 Drawn: 3 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Jacobs as Captain in Tests Matches: 2 Won: 2 Lost: 0 Drawn: 0 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Lara as Captain in Tests Matches: 47 Won: 10 Lost: 26 Drawn: 11 Tied: 0 No result: 0

Team Record with Adams as Captain in Tests Matches: 15 Won: 4 Lost: 8 Drawn: 3 Tied: 0 No result: 0

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Posted by alarky on (November 29, 2013, 0:51 GMT)

As usual, the WI cricket administrators must be blamed for the lack of any progress in the region's cricket! They fluke a T/20 World Cup win and started to relax as though they were World Champions for all three formats - keep playing mediocre players in their Test and ODI teams! The results bear witness! Only Chanderpaul in the CARIBBEAN is a better batsman than Ramnaresh Sarwan. But the coach and Sarwan had a little dispute, and the remote effect seems to have abridged Sarwan's career! He is still the second best batsman in the WI - and still a very young man! They can't tell me anything about his so called come back! Playing him in a few ODI matches where he was so uncomfortable with the same coach sharing his space, was not the right environment for a successful comeback! The only difference between Sarwan and Tendulkar is that SRT is allowed to fail for multiple years; while Sarwan is only allowed to fail for two matches! The present team is not good enough to do without him.

Posted by scratch1980 on (November 29, 2013, 0:15 GMT)

hi i am from trinidad and tobago and west indies best test side will be . 1)chris gayle 2)kieron powell 3)darren bravo 4)marlon samuels 5)shivnarine chanderpaul 6)denish ramdin 7)sunil narine 8)kemar roach 9)ravi rampaul 10)shane shillingford 11)fidel edwards. 12th man)dwayne bravo.

Posted by gtbadboy57 on (November 28, 2013, 23:13 GMT)

rampaul cannot make the team ? why too manny indians on the team ask the coach and they cannot win in nz because of sammy and the coach

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (November 28, 2013, 22:42 GMT)

I expected Rampaul to be added to the squad sometimes the selectors like they put their hands in a bag to select the team sorry Rampaul

Posted by CodandChips on (November 28, 2013, 21:35 GMT)

Will be a challenge for Narine. Personally I dont think he can bowl on non-spinning wickets or play tests. Even in ODIs this year he has taken as many wickets as James Tredwell in 7 more matches and on spinning pitches. Also New Zealand have excellent batsmen such as Rutherford, Williamson and Taylor.

Posted by rayinto on (November 28, 2013, 20:52 GMT)

How about Rampaul - sure a good replacement for Tino Best!

Posted by VivGilchrist on (November 28, 2013, 20:38 GMT)

No practice game? How do you go from playing ODI's in India to a Test series in NZ without half of these players given a warm up game? WI have you learned nothing? NZ 1-0 after the first test. Also Rampaul would be WI most dangerous bowler on NZ pitches.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 28, 2013, 19:14 GMT)

I forgot Bravo he will play instead of either Edwards or Brathwaite depending on who they chose to partner Powell openeing.

Posted by Frayninho21 on (November 28, 2013, 18:41 GMT)

An unusual decision in the sense that the selectors have actually been pro-active in bringing Narine in. They should have got Rampaul in too as he looked fit and menacing in the ODI's vs India. A pace trio of Sammy, Best and Gabriel/Cottrell won't be giving Brendon McCallum and Ross Taylor sleepless nights.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 28, 2013, 18:36 GMT)

Looking at W.I squad I'd like him and Shillingford to both play here. Shilly can be reliable to bowl long periods and Narine should be used in shorter bursts with aggressive fielding tactics. Seeing as WI say they like to play 5 batsman this will likely be the 11 and best option 1.Brathwaite 2.Powell 3.Edwards 4.Samuels 5.Chanderpaul 6.Ramdin 7.Sammy 8.Best 9.Narine 10.Shillingford 11.Cotrell .Boy the tail is long this is the real issue other top sides bowlers can all bat and their allrounder/ keepr is expected to be as good as top order batsman this is the real weakness of the side that needs to be worked on. In particular at least understanding that if there is a remaining batsman like Shiv or Ramdin they have to keep the strike at all costs (basic stuff) but they didn't seem to even understand this in recent times . . .

Posted by jb633 on (November 28, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

West Indies have to stick with him now. If Shillingford gets cleared the two of them can spin WI to home wins. I feel like the WI constantly get their tactics wrong at home by going in with 3 quicks (2 of which are average) on decks that now spin from day one. The tracks are no longer good for seamers but spinners. Narine needs experience to learn about the art of test match bowling as it is very different than in T20. If he can use the offie more and the doosra not so frequently he will do well.

Posted by docsunny on (November 28, 2013, 18:10 GMT)

If Sunil Narine brings his A game to the table , he will be a handful for NZ batsmen. It will be a challenge for them to counter his guile and skill.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

anybody but tino best please...this is not a circus

Posted by KeshavSeshadri85 on (November 28, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

What happened to Rampaul? He's their best bowler and ought to be in the test team. They have a pedestrian fast bowling attack but surely he ought to be be there over Cottrell and Gabriel?

Posted by lugujaga on (November 28, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

chris pulled one of lara's special, get so called "injured" just before christmas or carnival to make sure they dont miss those occasions back home. have a few drinks for me chris in the tripple century bar. if west indies want to win in new zealand the batting line up shuold be: 1.powell 2.kirk edwards 3.chandepaul 4.bravo 5.samuels 6.sammy .7,walton 8.shilinford 9.narine 10gabriel 11.cottrel this will be the test winning combination .if west indies don't use this line up they will lose all the tests badly.

Posted by InsideHedge on (November 28, 2013, 17:22 GMT)

West Indies' pace bowling line up is looking pedestrian without their injured players who constantly disrupt the team and make selectors' life difficult. Time to look at a whole new breed of youngsters starting with Jason Holder.

Kiwis gave England a real tough fight at home, they would have won in the near past, it only shows how far they've fallen too. This might turn out to be a very close, hard fought and exciting series given both teams will try their best to give the initiative to the opposition at crucial moments in the Test series.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2013, 16:55 GMT)

My West Indies Test XI vs NZ will be. 1) Kraigg Brathwaite 2) Kieron Powell 3) Shivnarine Chandrapaul 4) Krik Edwards 5) Darren Bravo 6) Narsingh Deonarine 7) Dinesh Ramdin 8) S. Cotrell 9) S. Gabreil 10) C. Walton 11) Sunil Narine. if Samuels and Shillingford are not cleared before first test. Sammy captain only for Toss after that he will be XII man only come there in ground for his feilding skill, onfield captain Ramdin and too for this 2 tests, if he fails too than time to appoint a young captain instead of Powell which windies are thinking give it to Braithwaite. Why dont they add Rampaul to this squad.

Posted by calcu on (November 28, 2013, 16:46 GMT)

Excellent decision by WICB. The inclusion of narine will give a extra chance to WI. But, NZ is very strong at home and beating them there is going to be a very difficult task. I expect them to win the test series 2-0 & ODI series 3-2.

Posted by ThilankaK on (November 28, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

Too late decision making ! If Narine there for IND test series results will WI 2 & IND 0

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