West Indies in New Zealand 2013-14

Sammy hopes for worn out New Zealand

Andrew McGlashan in Dunedin

December 8, 2013

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Trent Boult is ecstatic after picking up a wicket, New Zealand v West Indies, 1st Test, Dunedin, 3rd day, December 5, 2013
Trent Boult bowled the most overs of New Zealand's seamers in Dunedin © Getty Images
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West Indies' epic second innings in Dunedin not only helped deny New Zealand victory in the first Test, but it may have very well also given them a significant advantage going into the next match in Wellington, having kept the home side's bowlers in the field for the best part of eight sessions.

In a scenario very similar to what New Zealand faced against England in March, their efforts to secure a win at University Oval could have a detrimental effect come the start of the second Test should they find themselves in the field first, as they did during the previous Wellington Test when England batted for five sessions.

Perhaps riding on the euphoria of having escaped with a draw in Dunedin, Darren Sammy indicated that he had not been too disappointed when Brendon McCullum enforced the follow-on on the third day in contrast to Michael Clarke's approach in Adelaide.

"After they took the last wicket in the first innings Brendon said to me as they walking out 'we are going to bowl again'. I said 'thank you very much Brendon'," Sammy said. "Their bowlers toiled and that's a lot of yards in the legs. It's going to be tough but I guess it's what we do as professionals. I guess my bowlers will be much fresher than their bowlers so hopefully we can go into the second test and they'll be a bit tired and we will be a fresher team."

McCullum admitted the workload of his frontline quicks will need to be assessed in the couple of days leading into the Wellington match. Tim Southee sent down 45 overs, Trent Boult 51 and Neil Wagner 43 during West Indies' two innings. The other aspect to factor in is McCullum's instinct to often bowl first in Tests; if the toss falls in McCullum's hands, his pace bowlers will hope the case to bat is too overwhelming to decline.

"It is a little concern," McCullum said. "They put in a tremendous amount of work over the last few days and I couldn't ask for any more than what they've given. The wicket flattened out quite a bit like we knew it would at some point.

"We didn't probably expect the West Indies to negate our bowlers as much as they did for as long as they did and you've got to give credit to them for doing so. It was a wonderful innings from Bravo and supported by a couple of other guys. The concern for us is that Wellington is in a few days' time, hopefully the wicket may have a little bit of spice in it as well, because we've seen that certainly suits our bowlers. If we do find ourselves in the park hopefully it's not for too long."

McCullum, though, indicated that he would not be swayed from putting West Indies in to bat, if he thought it was the best move on the day.

"Obviously we'll see how the guys pull up. It was a very tough workload for them, but they're young guys and they're very fit, strong and they love playing cricket for their country. I think if we do find ourselves bowling in that first session of that next Test then I don't think we'll have too many problems getting up for it, but we do have to be a little bit rational and have to think what the right thing to do at the time as well."

Both teams have selection issues to consider leading into the second Test. McCullum and Mike Hesson, the New Zealand coach who confirmed an unchanged 13-man squad for Wellington, will need to ponder whether their attack needs freshening up - Hesson said the bowlers would be given a day off on Monday - and they will also need to make a decision on Kane Williamson who was ruled out of Dunedin due to a thumb injury.

Williamson has been playing a Hawke Cup match this weekend and made 140 for Bay of Plenty to suggest he is on track to replace Aaron Redmond, although Hesson said he still needed to come through a bowling and fielding stint. His offspin would also give New Zealand another bowling option, particularly useful to West Indies' left handers.

For West Indies, the central issue is the fitness of Sammy after the glute injury he picked up on the second day. He appeared to be moving more freely during his second-innings 80, but did not bowl again in the match. He did not require a scan and remained hopeful of being able to take a full part in Wellington.

If Sammy is not fit to be part of the bowling attack, it is difficult to see how he could play even though he batted impressively in Dunedin. Their pace attack remains the weakest part of their game and the only other option they have in the squad is left-armer Sheldon Cottrell. Sammy indicated that the possibility of playing two frontline spinners - Sunil Narine alongside Shane Shillingford - would be seriously considered.

"Last time New Zealand were in the Caribbean in our conditions Narine played a big part in that series as well so it's a good thing for us to have in the squad - two world class spinners that could win you a match on any day. When we get to Wellington well have a look at the pitch, I doubt that it'll be anything different, but yes, we foresee the two of them playing together in the future."

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Posted by inot on (December 9, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Like Gibson and some of the Selectors, Sammy, Best and Gabriel are not test cricketers. The do not know the basics. They cannot bowl 2 balls on the same spot.They spray the cricket ball. If they beat the bat one ball, the next ball goes for 4 and the pressure is off. It shows in their body language. When world class bowlers beat the bat or get their catches dropped they are encouraged. When WI bowlers are in the same position they throw their hands up, disappointed and discouraged because they do not have confidence in their ability to create another opportunity. Cummings is the best prospect I have seen in a long time. He bowled a consistent line and length with the A team in India. Rampaul on performance, and even Dwayne Bravo deserve spots before Best Sammy and Gabriel.

Posted by   on (December 9, 2013, 5:06 GMT)

My 11. Braithwaite, Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Samuels, Deodarine, Ramdin, Shillingford, Cottrell, Best, Narine/Sammy. If Sammy is available I reckon replacing him with Narine, unfortunately. It might be risky experimenting Narine on a track that seem to appear more conducive for the quicks. The dilemma arises when you take a look at his past records against New Zealand in the Caribbean. Outstanding figures! However one must realize that Narine was playing in a different conditions. Within the test squad Sammy seems to be the ultimate balance on the W.I team being the 2nd leading run scorer and also the 5th in amongst both teams. His bowling wasn't as balanced however he still managed to be more threatening than both seamers collecting a couple wickets in the 2nd innings. It is important that he plays in the next test if he is fit too. Powell you need to sit back and give Braithwaite a chance to continue to good form he has been in recently. Take a look at his Stats.

Posted by rayinto on (December 9, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

You can even have fresher bowlers once you call up Rampaul and Roach. And Sammy, don't strain yourself, take a rest. We need you for the 1 day games. The bowling attack should really be Rampaul, Roach, Narine and Shillingford. Now that's a bowling attack,

Posted by LewisDuckworth on (December 9, 2013, 2:50 GMT)

If Sammy is unfit for WI, I agree they should play two spinners, however they need a 3rd seam bowling option also.

They should draft Dwayne Bravo into the test squad and bring Dwayne, Cottrell & Narine in at the expense of the injured Sammy, Gabriel & Samuels.

1. Edwards 2. Powell 3. Da Bravo 4. Deonarine 5. Chanderpaul 6. Dw Bravo 7. Ramdin 8. Cotrell 9. Shillingford 10. Narine 11. Best

Best & Cottrell can open, Dwayne Bravo first change, twin spin of Shillingford & Narine and part time spin of Deonarine gives them options.

For New Zealand Williamson if fit should certainly come in for Redmond, and please let's bring Jesse Ryder back for Anderson. I'd also love to see either Adam Milne or Matt Henry come in for Wagner, but can't see that happening.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (December 9, 2013, 1:45 GMT)

The problem for W.I is they're not going to take 20 wickets even with a fit Sammy bowling first change. They need to play all 3 pacers or the 2 spinners with Best and Cotrell. People critiquing Best obviously didn't watch the game he was the only pace bowler to really cause problems and he had the top 5 jumping on another day the edges from Taylor and McCullum would have carried or not gone over the slips he's a strike bowler you know he's going to go for few runs the problem is there is no pressure from the other end.

Posted by   on (December 9, 2013, 1:07 GMT)

D only person we dont want from that squad is best.narine must play.lol like sammy only bat good injured lol hope this injury makes him learn to bat.still shouldnt b test capt.

Posted by   on (December 8, 2013, 21:01 GMT)

West indies needs to bowling attach capable of taking 20 wickets. Best, is not a test bowler, nor should be called a cricketer, for he has demonstrated again his inability to think and play team cricket. Gabriel, as Ian Bishop suggested is learning to bowl. If this is true, then he should not be playing test cricket. No comment on Sammy's ability to take out the opposition. I will venture to say that neither Cottrell, nor Holder has what it takes to deliver at this level. neither men demonstrated any understanding nor ability to "work a batsman into playing a false shot". Tino best should consider a place in the Barbados screen actors guild. My conclusion is that there is not bowling strategy, or the men simply are not listenning and applying what is required. Compare their performances to a stock broker who has to do what the investor wants. If he does not follow andimplement those instructions he is fired. Why not fire Best, Gabriel, Sammy?

Posted by Riddymon on (December 8, 2013, 20:25 GMT)

I wish Best, Gabriel and Sammy knew how to swing the ball consistently. To be honest, all of the NZ's seam bowlers with the exception of boult bowl about the same speed as sammy but they look WAY more dangerous because they get lots of movement. We have two guys firing the ball down at 140kph+ and getting no movement and to top it off, they can't bowl a consistent line and length. Then Sammy, who I like, he himself doesn't swing the ball either so has to rely on a predictable line and length. We need to do better or we'll always be reliant on the same two bowlers. We should be able to have anyone in there and get the same or similar results from our bowling attack ideally.

Posted by   on (December 8, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

What bowlers?, there are only two test quality bowlers for the West Indies playing in NZ right now and they are both spinners. So they can get all the rest they need, being fresh will not be an advantage and is not the real issue. Its start with team selection and putting runs on the board. Otherwise Sammy will eat his words once again. Apparently the WI fast bowlers of old need to open a fast bowling school..

Posted by sharadgargconnect on (December 8, 2013, 20:05 GMT)

i think NZ should prepare fast wickets. They should prevent teams from subcontinent to put up batting display. This makes the competition interesting. NZ is a good side. They just need to use common sense. They have their best chance in odis. They should open with Williamson and Brendon Mccullum and use dashers like devchich, franklin and nathan mccullum in slog overs. They should use players who are already developed rather than blood new comers in odi. I think they can win T20 world cup.

Posted by cricket0539 on (December 8, 2013, 18:35 GMT)

WI will need to bat first if they are playing two spinners. If sammy is unfit then best should play.

Posted by cricket0539 on (December 8, 2013, 17:54 GMT)

WI starting eleven should be 1)edwards 2)powell 3)bravo 4)samuels 5)chanderpaul 6)deonarine 7) ramdin 8)sammy 9)cottrell 10)narine 11) shillingford.best shouldn,t be in the teAM. the bowling is weak without roach, rampaul. There is also holder, johnson, cummings, richards. what ever happened to fidel edwards and jerome taylor. Gabriel needs to play more FCC, he can improve. Once gayle is fit the team batting would be stronger, simmons should have been considered since he is making a lot of runs. Sammy should be captaining the ODI and T20 teams not the test team, since he can contain but not really get any wickets.

Posted by CricketChat on (December 8, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

Mu gut feeling tells me WI have finally turned a corner after the 2nd innings fight back from the brink of a certain defeat scoring over 500 following on. I only hope they can get some decent fast bowlers. Honest trier that Best is, he is not a strike bowler due to lack of variations. He is too naive to think he can regularly bounce out modern batsmen. Narine and Rampaul are a must in any format for the time being.

Posted by Mendezjude on (December 8, 2013, 15:54 GMT)

West Indies cricket was at it's peak when the wickets were fast, now that the pitches have become slow. The results are for all to see. Please rectify the issue and rejuvenate cricket, how it has to be played in the Caribbean.

Posted by   on (December 8, 2013, 14:19 GMT)

Two front line spinners is the way to go for West Indies. When Roach and Rampaul are fit then the bowling attack would be completed. For the near future I think Mr Gibson should pay special attention to Jason Holder because he is a fast and natural swing bowler. Just like S. Pollock of South Africa is Sheldon Cottrell's true ability to contain runs flow; he should do just that for the next game. This is my line up for the next match. (1) K. Edwards, (2) K. Powell, (3) Daren Bravo, (4) Marlon Samuels, (5) Chanderpaul, (6) Sammy, (7) Ramdin, (8) Narine, (9) Shillingford, (10) Sheldon Cottrell.

Posted by Frayninho21 on (December 8, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

The West Indies bowlers might indeed be fresher but, sadly for them, neither Best or Gabriel is a true test class bowler (unlike Southee or Boult) so that is always going to hamper the West Indies on this tour. Oh for Rampaul and Roach....

Posted by Sachit1979 on (December 8, 2013, 13:16 GMT)

My only point is; is it right preparation before tour of India in NewZealand? None of the kiwi bowlers could really touch 140 kmph. It would be really difficult to challenge India is if pace is not enough.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (December 8, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

@Edward Wayne John "Very unlikely any change" NZ just made over 600 after being put in I'd hope there is some changes Narine has to play.

Posted by   on (December 8, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Very unlikely any change . Cotrell proved in India he couldn't maintain his pace for even 1 session.play deo as a second spinner if Sammy unable to go

Posted by pt_pt on (December 8, 2013, 10:39 GMT)

NZ will need to make 2 changes , Williamson is a must and also Bracewell for Wagner. Boult and Southee will be fine, yes they bowled a lot of overs but will be looked after in the coming days and will be fresh again. If anything will be nice and loose, raring to go. Sammy should be more concerned about his own injury, which can take at best a couple of weeks to recover.

Posted by SwingandSeam on (December 8, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

@Wirus. Jerome Taylor has been off the scene for years now. I don't think he is going to make it back to Test cricket and Fidel Edwards was never good enough in the first place. Holder seems a decent bowler with a good First Class average, and for some reason the selectors do not want to give a chance to Delorn Johnson. He is left arm and tall and has an excellent record in the regional tournaments, so could do well. Rampaul should always play ahead of the wayward Tino Best, who for some strange seems to be a default selection every time Roach is injured.

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (December 8, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

they will be knackered, they seemed down on pace the whole game either that or the speed gun was broken, we have to play boult and southee but wagner was largely ineffective, everyone loves a tryer and he'll try hard all day but im not as convinced as others of him being our third seamer so if they want to introduce some fresh legs, i'd replace wagner but i know they will replace him with bracewell and he has been very dissapointing of late, his batting has improved a bit which lengthens our batting order but its been at the cost of his bowling and we need wickets. the selectors seem so reluctant to give milne a go but he would be my third seamer, the windies batsmen were very crease bound in the first test, milnes pace would give them even less time to get out of jail with there lack of footwork, give him a go,could he do any worse?

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (December 8, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

This will be W.I 11 with either Ramdin or Edwards captain 1.Powell 2.Edwards 3.Bravo 4.Chanderpaul 5.Samuels 6.Deonarine 7.Ramdin 8.Shillingford 9.Best 10.Narine 11.Cottrell

Posted by weasel_zapper on (December 8, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

Bracewell in for Wagner would make sense for some fresh legs. Evens up the balance a bit too in not having 3 left armers.

Was always going to be a big risk putting them back in on a flat deck. Easy to call it a bad move with the benefit of hindsight though. Really thought we had it when Chanderpaul went cheaply. Bravo played well but unfortunately we didn't hold onto the chances he presented either. Plus thought we were a bit hard done by when he gloved that ball.

Dunedin is always the flattest NZ pitch so hopefully we see more from the Wellington deck.

Posted by wirus on (December 8, 2013, 7:24 GMT)

Agreed. It would be madness to risk playing Sammy and it is more than likely a benefit. Here is where someone like Jonathan Carter in the squad would have been useful as he bowls medium pace and is a good batsman as demonstrated in India. Best just doesn't have the skill to get wickets against good teams and Gabriel isn't ready for this level of cricket, nor is Cotterel and I feel sorry for these two youngsters. Yes Roach is injured but what a difference Rampaul would have made! Does anyone know what is happening with Jerome Taylor? Can he be revived and brought back into WI cricket? Fidel Edwards' injuries keep happening and he seems finished but I hope not. Is there no other WI fast bowler who knows how to bowl at international level to partner Roach and Rampaul?

Posted by legend_963 on (December 8, 2013, 6:23 GMT)

lets face the facts with those two geniuses opening the bowling we are not going to bowl out New Zealand expect another 600 + score right now all hope rests on narine and shillingford. I hope cotterel gets a chance.

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