West Indies in New Zealand 2013-14 December 23, 2013

Gibson, Pybus to plot way forward for West Indies in Tests

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The future of the West Indies Test team will be mapped out early next year with the coach Ottis Gibson and the new director of cricket Richard Pybus set to meet to discuss how to respond to the recent slump in results.

Four of West Indies' last five Tests have been heavy defeats and without rain in Dunedin it would have been five losses on in a row, undoing the strides made over the previous year where the side had strung together six straight Test victories.

Their next Test assignment is not until May when they host New Zealand in a return series, but although Gibson wants to use the gap to make a considered judgement on his team, it seems inconceivable that significant changes won't take place. Pybus only joined the WICB in late October, shortly before West Indies went to India, so there has been limited opportunity for him to work with Gibson.

"We've had some discussions already about where we are and my thoughts on what we need to do to move forward," Gibson said. "There's a meeting pencilled in for us when we get back, including the selectors, to try and plot the way forward. We have five months before the next Test series which gives us some time."

West Indies were hampered in New Zealand by the absence of Kemar Roach, due to a shoulder injury, and Chris Gayle, but the discussions between Gibson and Pybus will also need to focus on the status of players such as Ravi Rampaul and Fidel Edwards, who have doubts over their viability for Test cricket, and whether to recall other experienced figures such as Ramnaresh Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo.

In the aftermath of the 2-0 loss against New Zealand, which was sealed by a collapse for 103 in the second innings in Hamilton where all 10 wickets fell in a session, Darren Sammy spoke about careers being on the line but Gibson said there will be no hasty decisions.

"When you've just lost a series, and the way we've lost, emotions run high and people start talking about careers being on the line and it's a bit premature," he said. "We can get home, let the dust settle and assess where we are. We can come up with a plan, but also decide who the right personnel are."

He did, though, concede that patience was wearing thin especially when it came to the batting performances. "Batting collapses happen. In our team they happen too often. It's a sickening feeling when it happens to your team."

In the short term Gibson has the limited-overs leg of the New Zealand tour to focus on, which brings with it a change of captain - Dwayne Bravo replaces Sammy for the ODIs, but not the T20s - and Gibson hopes for a fresh approach.

"Dwayne brings his own energies," he said. "Sometimes what is going on in the Tests can drain the players, it can have a drain on the captain as well. Having a new figure head in the one-dayers, and some new players, means we aren't taking too much baggage into the series."

There is also the chance that Gayle will be available for the two Twenty20s that round off the tour next month. Gayle picked up a hamstring injury during the one-day series in India and was ruled to have not recovered in time for the 50-overs segment of this trip. He is currently in Sydney, believed to be as part of his rehabilitation programme, and Gibson said the main target for him was the World Twenty20 defence in Bangladesh.

"We're in communication with him and the people he's working with in Australia," Gibson said. "He's still injured so would be an unnecessary risk to fast track him with what lies ahead. The World T20 is coming up - a format where he is king. He should be available for the two T20s."

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • delboy on December 25, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    I can never understand the logic of West Indians coaches do not have to have even played the game in order to impart CHOACING techniques. If one follows that logic then why do they not ask themselve how many times has Bolt's coach won olympic gold or Mourinho won the champions league or worldcup soccer as a player. Those who can't teach! That is why the WI team has the largest selection panel..views and opinions lack full thought. I'm no fan of Gibson based purely on my assessment for the backward steps ALL players have taken under his tenure and his inability to manage the most important part of the coache's role. Ensuring all the psychological aspects of each player is intact in order to ensure TEAM stability and performances that produce positive results.

  • Rally_Windies on December 25, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    @ VisBal

    pick individual teams based on regional performances in each format ?

    wow, wow, slow down....

    that is such a novel concept it just might work ...

    now please help us re-word that into something cognitive that the WICB would understand your suggestion..

    They would say that your suggestion is "complicated" and "far fetched" ....

    Perfect Exmaple.. the # 1 spinner in 4-day cricket for the last 5 years is Nikita Miller (not Shilingford, Benn, Narine, Permaul or Bishoo) ..

    Miller was given 1 Test 5 years ago, did not do so well, but has dominated regional 4-day cricket to vie for a recall .. Miller is a pretty average ODI bowler, and Narine and Bishoo, Badree and even Shillinford are better in that format ..

    So what does WICB do ? Recall Miller to the ODI squad of course ....

    Narine + Miller would have destroyed New Zeland.....

  • chechong0114 on December 25, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    Exactly how does the WICB expect to go forward with Otis Gibson, if they are really serious about going forward where the hell dose Otis Gibson fit in to that picture. I am not a part of the selection panel and I am not going to pretend that I even know anything about the process but when u look at the records of the coaching staff of this West Indies team it is fair to say that they are all capable of doing anything but going forward. Take for instance Stuart Williams the man never had a spectacular career with the bat how in the world does he become a batting coach, he never knew how to bat properly just look up his stats it leaves alot to be desired so exactly what is he teaching these current WI batsmen. Otis Gibson was never an outstanding player either, I support with the WICB view of hiring Caribbean blood and I respect that but they may be better of hiring Sir Viv I mean the man never lost a test series as a captain so he had a tremendous record something the team can use.

  • on December 25, 2013, 3:01 GMT

    Too much talk from coach OG and no action plan to remedy the situation.Heads should/must roll after 3 yrs. of failures and it should start at the top.Wrong coach,selectors and choice of players.Actually,wrong Board.There would be no forward movement without a complete shakeup:

  • on December 25, 2013, 2:54 GMT

    Why is Gibson still calling the shots . He should be sacked immediately. He cannot see that he is part of the present problem, so he should not be the one to chart the course for WI cricket, the WICB should sack Gibson, RR , and Sammy. A careful look should also be made of the selectors. It is inconceivable that no one will even be reprimanded for such dismal , spineless, and brainless performance by the WI, yet Gibson is talking - business as usual, we will see what happens after our assessment. What other assessment does the WICB need to confirm that the selectors, RR, OG and DS has failed miserably and should be replaced immediately.

  • K_Doc on December 25, 2013, 2:33 GMT

    Do not let Dwayne Bravo bowl the death overs in the limited overs cricket.

  • on December 24, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    The results from the India and NZ tours should surprise no one. West Indies cricket has been dreadful for the last 15 years. Other countries have had a core group of stars retire and have successfully recovered; WI remains mired in a 15 year slump. Why, because WI cricket is sick in the head, sick at the leadership level both at WICB and the players association. With sick leadership comes sick players, mentally and physically they are unprepared to play at the highest levels. As long as the same cast of characters run cricket in WI things will not change. As for Otis Gibson; two words-- fire him.

  • on December 24, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    ok to draw a parallel in Tests Australia is ranked 2 places below England like us & New Zealand, so imagine England agreeing to a tour of India just so Tendulkar can reach a landmark & retire in front of his home crowd amid extravagant celebrations. They also agree to an Odi series which ends on the same day their 1 & only 3 day warm-up game before the Test series in Australia begins. They lose both Test Matches in India by an innings inside 5 days. They decide to take the same squad on the Australian tour including a spin bowler with a history of throwing & was reported in the just concluded series + 2 pacers who cant buy a wicket . They then decide to send 5 English cricketers a day or 2 ahead of the start of the Australian tour to play the warmup match. The other 5 are unknown Australian cricketers + 1 of which is going to represent Australia in the 1st Test Match lets say Warner. the remainder of the squad arrive 2 or 3 day before the 1st test

  • on December 24, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    you see if the people making the decisions were using common sense & vision to put correct plans in place we would not be in this situation now. & even if we were, then the blame could be placed squarely @ the feet of the players. It was all well & good to go to India for the Sachin celebrations but to agree to the ODI series (which we were always going to lose anyway) that ended while the KIwi tour was actually in progress was a humongous display of imbecility. & then the fact that no1 , not Mr Pybus, selectors Mr Gibson or his assistants saw any merit in sending the Test squad to New Zealand in time to recover from jet-lag, acclimatize & get in sufficient training ahead of the warm up matches. that would require @ least 5 days. Instead we ended up with 2 or 3 of our cricketers playing in a team of kiwis labelled as 'the West Indians' ! of those kiwis even represented New Zealand in Dunedin. Calling that an oversight or mistake would be the understatement of the year.

  • on December 24, 2013, 11:28 GMT

    Gibson, should plot his way out of WI Cricket, he has failed as a coach and the results are embarrassing to say the least. In any professional organization someone with those results would be fired. Never in history has West Indies cricket public, and West Indies cricket supporters been so humiliated . The issues with the team were also not managed, one could clearly observe that the body language on the field indicated that all was not well with respect to team dynamics

  • delboy on December 25, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    I can never understand the logic of West Indians coaches do not have to have even played the game in order to impart CHOACING techniques. If one follows that logic then why do they not ask themselve how many times has Bolt's coach won olympic gold or Mourinho won the champions league or worldcup soccer as a player. Those who can't teach! That is why the WI team has the largest selection panel..views and opinions lack full thought. I'm no fan of Gibson based purely on my assessment for the backward steps ALL players have taken under his tenure and his inability to manage the most important part of the coache's role. Ensuring all the psychological aspects of each player is intact in order to ensure TEAM stability and performances that produce positive results.

  • Rally_Windies on December 25, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    @ VisBal

    pick individual teams based on regional performances in each format ?

    wow, wow, slow down....

    that is such a novel concept it just might work ...

    now please help us re-word that into something cognitive that the WICB would understand your suggestion..

    They would say that your suggestion is "complicated" and "far fetched" ....

    Perfect Exmaple.. the # 1 spinner in 4-day cricket for the last 5 years is Nikita Miller (not Shilingford, Benn, Narine, Permaul or Bishoo) ..

    Miller was given 1 Test 5 years ago, did not do so well, but has dominated regional 4-day cricket to vie for a recall .. Miller is a pretty average ODI bowler, and Narine and Bishoo, Badree and even Shillinford are better in that format ..

    So what does WICB do ? Recall Miller to the ODI squad of course ....

    Narine + Miller would have destroyed New Zeland.....

  • chechong0114 on December 25, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    Exactly how does the WICB expect to go forward with Otis Gibson, if they are really serious about going forward where the hell dose Otis Gibson fit in to that picture. I am not a part of the selection panel and I am not going to pretend that I even know anything about the process but when u look at the records of the coaching staff of this West Indies team it is fair to say that they are all capable of doing anything but going forward. Take for instance Stuart Williams the man never had a spectacular career with the bat how in the world does he become a batting coach, he never knew how to bat properly just look up his stats it leaves alot to be desired so exactly what is he teaching these current WI batsmen. Otis Gibson was never an outstanding player either, I support with the WICB view of hiring Caribbean blood and I respect that but they may be better of hiring Sir Viv I mean the man never lost a test series as a captain so he had a tremendous record something the team can use.

  • on December 25, 2013, 3:01 GMT

    Too much talk from coach OG and no action plan to remedy the situation.Heads should/must roll after 3 yrs. of failures and it should start at the top.Wrong coach,selectors and choice of players.Actually,wrong Board.There would be no forward movement without a complete shakeup:

  • on December 25, 2013, 2:54 GMT

    Why is Gibson still calling the shots . He should be sacked immediately. He cannot see that he is part of the present problem, so he should not be the one to chart the course for WI cricket, the WICB should sack Gibson, RR , and Sammy. A careful look should also be made of the selectors. It is inconceivable that no one will even be reprimanded for such dismal , spineless, and brainless performance by the WI, yet Gibson is talking - business as usual, we will see what happens after our assessment. What other assessment does the WICB need to confirm that the selectors, RR, OG and DS has failed miserably and should be replaced immediately.

  • K_Doc on December 25, 2013, 2:33 GMT

    Do not let Dwayne Bravo bowl the death overs in the limited overs cricket.

  • on December 24, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    The results from the India and NZ tours should surprise no one. West Indies cricket has been dreadful for the last 15 years. Other countries have had a core group of stars retire and have successfully recovered; WI remains mired in a 15 year slump. Why, because WI cricket is sick in the head, sick at the leadership level both at WICB and the players association. With sick leadership comes sick players, mentally and physically they are unprepared to play at the highest levels. As long as the same cast of characters run cricket in WI things will not change. As for Otis Gibson; two words-- fire him.

  • on December 24, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    ok to draw a parallel in Tests Australia is ranked 2 places below England like us & New Zealand, so imagine England agreeing to a tour of India just so Tendulkar can reach a landmark & retire in front of his home crowd amid extravagant celebrations. They also agree to an Odi series which ends on the same day their 1 & only 3 day warm-up game before the Test series in Australia begins. They lose both Test Matches in India by an innings inside 5 days. They decide to take the same squad on the Australian tour including a spin bowler with a history of throwing & was reported in the just concluded series + 2 pacers who cant buy a wicket . They then decide to send 5 English cricketers a day or 2 ahead of the start of the Australian tour to play the warmup match. The other 5 are unknown Australian cricketers + 1 of which is going to represent Australia in the 1st Test Match lets say Warner. the remainder of the squad arrive 2 or 3 day before the 1st test

  • on December 24, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    you see if the people making the decisions were using common sense & vision to put correct plans in place we would not be in this situation now. & even if we were, then the blame could be placed squarely @ the feet of the players. It was all well & good to go to India for the Sachin celebrations but to agree to the ODI series (which we were always going to lose anyway) that ended while the KIwi tour was actually in progress was a humongous display of imbecility. & then the fact that no1 , not Mr Pybus, selectors Mr Gibson or his assistants saw any merit in sending the Test squad to New Zealand in time to recover from jet-lag, acclimatize & get in sufficient training ahead of the warm up matches. that would require @ least 5 days. Instead we ended up with 2 or 3 of our cricketers playing in a team of kiwis labelled as 'the West Indians' ! of those kiwis even represented New Zealand in Dunedin. Calling that an oversight or mistake would be the understatement of the year.

  • on December 24, 2013, 11:28 GMT

    Gibson, should plot his way out of WI Cricket, he has failed as a coach and the results are embarrassing to say the least. In any professional organization someone with those results would be fired. Never in history has West Indies cricket public, and West Indies cricket supporters been so humiliated . The issues with the team were also not managed, one could clearly observe that the body language on the field indicated that all was not well with respect to team dynamics

  • Blythesville on December 24, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    Hopeless. Absolutely hopeless.

    None of the top teams want to play test matches against West Indies. They only time there is interest is when they needed for a warm up series prior to playing another top team.

    Other than the odd short-form tournament victory, the Windies performance has been abysmal against any quality team.

    And with the IPL, they now have surrendered they best season for international tours.

  • VisBal on December 24, 2013, 5:49 GMT

    There is one way forward. And this may sound radical, but seems to be the only way they can go from here. The WICB should decide to have three separate teams, one for each format. The basis of selection for T20 should be only domestic/international T20 performances, and likewise for F50 (ODIs and List A) and Tests (Tests, First class, A tours) with three different captains and different coaches. The skill coaches can be the same for all three teams. That creates a much larger pool of players with the skills required for each format. There may be some rare players who can perform in all formats, but they would need to prove it at lower levels rather than being force-fit into a format they are not ready for. To really improve in Test cricket, the WICB need to arrange many many more A tours and these players should know they are the next string of players to get the maroon cap.

  • adkum on December 24, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    Why wait until next year to map out the future of the team. Start now. Get rid of Gibson and Sammy. This duo is not test cricket standard and do not have what it takes to lead and coach. The WICB is also too politically bent. We are now seeing the folly of not voting in Clive Lloyd as president of WICB? He is the one person who could have steered this ship out of the doldrums it is now facing. There is talent in the WI but nobody is grooming them.

  • on December 24, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    Yes, careers have to be examined. It has been my belief for sometime now that Sammy's presence in the team weakens it.. As a good a guy he is I think that he has brought the team as far as he can take it . I hope that when these guys start to chart the path for WI Cricket that they include players like Jason Holder, Miguel Cummins , and Jerome Taylor along with the present crop of Kemar Roach and Ravi Rampaul .. We need to create a bowling unit that is effective and bowling teams out and efficient at it !

  • VisBal on December 24, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    In addition to improving on-field performances, the coach has another important function/role. That is to mentor and develop young players to become performers. So far, the evidence on both aspects is pathetic. So why are they persisting with him, even after 3 years? Maybe that is the first name to be pencilled in for the out tray.

  • VisBal on December 24, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    In addition to improving on-field performances, the coach has another important function/role. That is to mentor and develop young players to become performers. So far, the evidence on both aspects is pathetic. So why are they persisting with him, even after 3 years? Maybe that is the first name to be pencilled in for the out tray.

  • lankan_style on December 24, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    I have been a West Indian fan ever since I can remember. They were the best. I can remember how ambrose and Walsh bowled out batsman without a slight resisstance. I was really hopeful about west Indian cricket but the bitter truth is that Windies dont have good players for test matches. They don't have bowlers to pick all 20 wickets. I really don't get why best is being picked. Rampaul cant get wickets unless batsman attack him in the first few overs. Ramdin is just dead weight. But then again there is no good wicket keeper to replace him. Samuels is just a walking wicket. Windies will do very well T20's and for their sake lets hope they will get to play short format of the game more often than test matches. now that shilingford isnt in the team Narine cant get all 20 wickets. Top order batsman cant play pace niether they can play spin. I used to think their biggest problem was to face spin but now they can't even play the ball moving away from them. From Lankan but Diehard windies fan

  • on December 24, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    Some people must man up and follow the example of Swann .

  • on December 24, 2013, 2:30 GMT

    the westindies meed to change gibson and the selectors because they need tohave changes

  • gtbadboy57 on December 24, 2013, 2:01 GMT

    if west indies is to go any way in the future they have to get rid of gibson sammy butts these guys have no tallent orskill tobe near west indies cricket

  • ecurtright on December 24, 2013, 0:28 GMT

    SIMPLE.......as an american learning cricket.....i am confused. you guys dont pay for performance! ANY sport,business etc....YOU pay for production! any business in the world know this. please help me understand the logic......

  • on December 23, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    Keep the seasoned speedsters Roach, Taylor, Edwards and Rampaul for tests. Experiment with the youngsters in ODI's etc until they can prove themselves and when the younger fast bowlers can deliver a good ten overs at a very economic rate and perhaps take some wickets. Rest of test team should come from Gayle, Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo, Chanderpaul, Ramdin, Samuels, Darren Bravo, Powell, Edwards, and Narine.

    This team was good until Otis destroyed it so lets start over.

    The test eleven should come from the names above.

    Play around with the rest in ODI's, twenty twenty and at the Sagicor centre. This also includes Deonarine.

    You need seasoned and experience players for tests.

    All leg spinners need to prove themselves more ie Permaul, Miller, Benn and Bishoo (Bishoo has an edge in my books)

  • on December 23, 2013, 23:21 GMT

    If this was happening to any other team there would have been some careers coming to an end. 103 is an embarassing score. 103 all out is embarssing.

  • on December 23, 2013, 23:01 GMT

    Enough said about the players, captain and coach. At least something is happening. They have four months to make the changes before New Zealand comes in May. Yes there are doubts but everyone deserve a second chance and so is Taylor, Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo. They themselves if considered early, can get prepared in a hurry because they are professionals.

    You may recall when Clive Lloyd was about to be dropped, Kanhai as captain of WI brought him in as a medium pace bowler then his performance as a batsman exceeded expectations.

    Changes has to be made in the method of selection and the selectors themselves needs to be looked at.

    Bishoo was dropped after he had followed Sammy's instructions. He did not get enough of a chance to prove himself. He was targeted.

    The regional competitions has lost some standards and quality which do not display the talent that test cricket calls for. Patience, skill - the ability to stay long in creases and bat is lost.

    Just have to hope for the best

  • on December 23, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    It is difficult to find an immediate solution to WI problems. But I know if you continue with the same old leadership who have not inspired confidence and WI pride in the team, you will get the same old result. Martin Crow wrote a stirring article days ago that hit at the root of the problem. We need a renown sports psycologist who can help the team work on their mental game. I don't know what has gone wrong with Samuels he showed so much promise in England. When WI use to dominate cricket they used to have confidence cricketers, had at lease 3 batsmen who use to make centuries regularly, world class fielders, 3-4 fearsome fast bowlers who use to attack the wicket and pride. Who do we have today?

  • on December 23, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    I cannot agree more with( DELBOY).The administration has reduced the WI side to rubble.What on earth is Gibson doing to these young players?His impact carried a heavy toll on Sarwan,one of WI most established batsmen.It is apparent that the psychological damage Sarwan endured has cost him his career.They wanted to get rid of Chanderpaul a loooong time ago,yet there isn't any batsman to match his talent and contribution.Every player has his natural talent,do not try to adjust too much.While it is true that certain fundamentals can be addressed,do not implore to the point of confusing players,lest the art of the sport will be disturbed.

  • Mayfield on December 23, 2013, 21:01 GMT

    "When you've just lost a series, and the way we've lost, emotions run high and people start talking about careers being on the line and it's a bit premature,". Just from the comments that Gibson made show that WI cricket is a joke. HEADS NEED TO ROLL-starting with Sammy. If Gibson continues with this delusion that somehow the team is better than it is performing, then he needs to go also. You have a mediocre player captaining the team, who cannot lead his troops from the front and you expect to build a succesful team? Clive Lloyd and Viv Richards had the requisite skills to lead from the front. Sammy does not. Stop with the nonsense. Keeping Sammy as captain speaks volume about Otis Gibson and I hope he recognises that.

  • on December 23, 2013, 19:25 GMT

    The cricket West Indies playing is just as ugly as Gibson and Sammy. I am not blaming Sammy and Gibson for this but the selectors . It is the selectors that have Sammy in the team as captain and new ball bowler Best fast and wild Samuels who look like he forget how to bat.

  • on December 23, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    The pencilled in meeting between Ottis and Pybus = more of the same old, same crap. Have at least one independent thinker join them in the inked in meeting. It could be a netballer for all I care. She may have ideas for our batsmen on things such as how to keep still in the crease, playing the ball late etc, etc

  • BRUTALANALYST on December 23, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    Otis said he's confident "We can beat India" before the tour which shows you just how delusional the guy is. Truly this W.I side couldn't beat any County Cricket side and he comes out with other statements like "they need to man up" pretty sad really the fact is the team selection, the tactics and technique of the players is dire. I mean you select a guy opening the bowling in NZ who can't even bowl with a vertical seem, Sammy who isn't good enough for a net bowler as it's far to easy practice coupled with a young kid opening the batting who has rarely been given a shot in ODI's past few years expected to deliver the goods meanwhile the main bowling threat Narine isn't even selected for either tour ! Utterly clueless it's the blind leading the blind.

  • Roysingh1972 on December 23, 2013, 16:23 GMT

    Following West Indies Cricket!! They won the 20/20 with 2 spin bowlers, Bishoo had 1 bad game, he got dropped, Narine got 1 bad game, he was dropped. The West Indies cricket board lacks "intelligence" to choose players for a game, to coach players for a series, to unified a group of players and to mentality keep there players in form. The board had there players in Florida, teaching USA cricket and watching Miami heats play basketball. India players was training for cricket. West Indies board have not done much to help cricket in the WI, look at all the grounds, empty stands all over. People are tired of what they are doing, or " nothing they doing" Hire people from successful cricket board, not only coaches, but directors and heads to run and make this board rise up!

  • on December 23, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    Why are we taking so long to get rid of "OTIS"? His role is long gone. We now need to look to the future without him. There are many other WI coaches that need to be given an opportunity:

    Carl Hooper, Roger Harper, Gus Logie, Phil Simmons, David Williams, etc.

  • on December 23, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    Gibson is not instinctive and WI will loose the ODI if they maintain the same attack. Timo Best had a poor India tour however the coaches still give him the go and the same result occurs. good bowling is not about speed its about accuracy Tino need to go get work done. Change up the batting order Marlon is most comfortable and have result at 3 give him back the 3 spot it works with his ego. Powell is timid and need to slip down the order Charles is brave he will fight just ask him to control his aggression bravo should bat at 4. Bowling win you test matches, cotrell showed he could keep it tight the one good spell he got never mind commentary saying he's not making batsmen play he's was doing the job keep it tight at one end so the spin could attack and that was the only time on tour WI look threatening. Introduce holder to test cricket, bring back 3 pace bowler and narine as the spin option. batsmen have to do there job but bowling win test match "DUMMIES"

  • Cago on December 23, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    If the West Indies should have a future in Test Cricket there is definitely no place for old greats like Ramnaresh Sarwan or Fidel Edwards. Sammy has successfully done the job he was selected to do in that of moulding the team; and now should only be considered only on merit.

  • delboy on December 23, 2013, 15:31 GMT

    The first thing that has to be made clear; when a player is on the field they need a clear mindset to perform and not the voice of a authoritarian ringing in their ear. This is evident in the way batsmen have forgotten how to bat and bowlers forget how to hold a ball. They are 'performing' under a regime of fear and indecision. Batsmen do not know whether to move their feet or the bat is a psychological hangover from being told this is what is wrong and this is how it should be done. What works in the comfort of an auditorium when criticism out-way praise only leads to pressure especially when the individual continues to under achieve and his team fails. When players like Sarwan and Samuels forget how to bat, the administration must see that something is not right, give them time off to sort it out. PROFESSIONALS are their own greatest critic and will seek every opportunity to improve on poor performances which should not be allowed to wear them down and affect the team.

  • rayinto on December 23, 2013, 15:22 GMT

    Michael Holding for Coach! He will put everybody in their place and tell them like it is. He is the Simon Cowell of cricket!

  • on December 23, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    drop sammy. ritchie richardson should be the coach. play quality spinners rather than playing average medium pacers.

  • on December 23, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    wi had the opportunity to play two quality spinner in tandem who are both capable of dismissing batsmen... They never played the two together, i.e Shillingford and Narine. Shillingford is now banned so that wont happen. We keep trying with these medium pace bowlers who just aren't good enough.

  • Outswinging on December 23, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    The problem really is Gibson - he must be sent packing. Agreed he has lots of thoughts, but how has that translated into Windies success? I think our last successful coach was Gus Logie, who was promptly railroaded by vaunted pillars of intellect that reign supreme over Windies cricket - the WICB.

    Mr. Gibson gives the Caribbean a gift in this season of giving - LEAVE!!!! GO AWAY!!! Please.

  • Rising_Edge1234 on December 23, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Gibson must go!! Sammy must go!! After that we can plot the way forward.

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    the most ridiculous thing that can happen to west indies cricket is to let Gibson lead the recovery.he is part of the problem , not the solution. i hope the wicb president has the cahones to make the necessary changes to make this team better and i hope to God Gibson is not part of it. Sammy and Gibson must go.

  • Windies2Dheart on December 23, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    If Gibson was coach of AUS he would have been fired long ago. How can he chart the way forward and he seem not to know it? Sarwan and F. Edwards arent players for the future.these guys are at least 2 years past their fitness and performance peaks. Since taking the post he has never seemed comfortable with the icon players. Good coaches inspire excellence and confidence. I so admire what fletcher started with ENG and is now doing with IND.

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    I believe West Indies is lacking in strategic training. For the series in New Zealand, instead of training in the West Indies, the team should have conducted a training camp in New Zealand months before the tour. They should have hired some swing bowlers to bowl at the batsmen. Also the bowlers need to practice bowing the type of balls that have gotten the New Zealand batsmen out in the past. This should be the new brand of Situational Training. No point training on dead flat pitches to come over and play on pitches favoring swing. I don't blame the blames, I blame the coach for not having the right vision and utilizing the right conditions for the team success.

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    The first problem is gibson,he needs replacing.We have players(ex)like Harper,carl hooper sobers ,kanhai viv,loyd etc.get one of them to coach w.i. and my be we will surely see results.All gibson is talk and no action. The job of the coach is to get results.Are we afraid to fire him .better coaces would have been fired.

  • Lion83 on December 23, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    Lendol simmons should be in the test team

  • CricketMaan on December 23, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Gibson seems to have a lot thoughts, but what about actions? As an outsider to windies cricket, ive time and again read Gibson talking about revival, roadmaps etc, but not much in action. It still baffles why such a talented bunch of individuals are not able to play collective cricket. Isnt that a Coach's key responsiblity? There is still hope in the horizon that windies one day will produce never wrecking fast bolwers that will haunt teams in fast and pacy conditions! Alas it doesnt seem like its in near future.

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  • CricketMaan on December 23, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Gibson seems to have a lot thoughts, but what about actions? As an outsider to windies cricket, ive time and again read Gibson talking about revival, roadmaps etc, but not much in action. It still baffles why such a talented bunch of individuals are not able to play collective cricket. Isnt that a Coach's key responsiblity? There is still hope in the horizon that windies one day will produce never wrecking fast bolwers that will haunt teams in fast and pacy conditions! Alas it doesnt seem like its in near future.

  • Lion83 on December 23, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    Lendol simmons should be in the test team

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    The first problem is gibson,he needs replacing.We have players(ex)like Harper,carl hooper sobers ,kanhai viv,loyd etc.get one of them to coach w.i. and my be we will surely see results.All gibson is talk and no action. The job of the coach is to get results.Are we afraid to fire him .better coaces would have been fired.

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    I believe West Indies is lacking in strategic training. For the series in New Zealand, instead of training in the West Indies, the team should have conducted a training camp in New Zealand months before the tour. They should have hired some swing bowlers to bowl at the batsmen. Also the bowlers need to practice bowing the type of balls that have gotten the New Zealand batsmen out in the past. This should be the new brand of Situational Training. No point training on dead flat pitches to come over and play on pitches favoring swing. I don't blame the blames, I blame the coach for not having the right vision and utilizing the right conditions for the team success.

  • Windies2Dheart on December 23, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    If Gibson was coach of AUS he would have been fired long ago. How can he chart the way forward and he seem not to know it? Sarwan and F. Edwards arent players for the future.these guys are at least 2 years past their fitness and performance peaks. Since taking the post he has never seemed comfortable with the icon players. Good coaches inspire excellence and confidence. I so admire what fletcher started with ENG and is now doing with IND.

  • on December 23, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    the most ridiculous thing that can happen to west indies cricket is to let Gibson lead the recovery.he is part of the problem , not the solution. i hope the wicb president has the cahones to make the necessary changes to make this team better and i hope to God Gibson is not part of it. Sammy and Gibson must go.

  • Rising_Edge1234 on December 23, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Gibson must go!! Sammy must go!! After that we can plot the way forward.

  • Outswinging on December 23, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    The problem really is Gibson - he must be sent packing. Agreed he has lots of thoughts, but how has that translated into Windies success? I think our last successful coach was Gus Logie, who was promptly railroaded by vaunted pillars of intellect that reign supreme over Windies cricket - the WICB.

    Mr. Gibson gives the Caribbean a gift in this season of giving - LEAVE!!!! GO AWAY!!! Please.

  • on December 23, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    wi had the opportunity to play two quality spinner in tandem who are both capable of dismissing batsmen... They never played the two together, i.e Shillingford and Narine. Shillingford is now banned so that wont happen. We keep trying with these medium pace bowlers who just aren't good enough.

  • on December 23, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    drop sammy. ritchie richardson should be the coach. play quality spinners rather than playing average medium pacers.