New Zealand v West Indies, 4th ODI, Nelson January 4, 2014

Gibson rues replacement players not grabbing their chances

ESPNcricinfo staff
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While injuries have left West Indies' squad quite depleted on their ongoing tour of New Zealand, coach Ottis Gibson puts the poor results mostly down to second-string players not grabbing the opportunities given to them. West Indies, after leading the ODIs 1-0, slipped to 2-1 down with their 58-run loss in the Nelson ODI on Saturday. In this particular game, the fielders let the team down at the death and his batsmen were unnecessarily run-out, Gibson said, resulting in the defeat.

"Yeah, another tough loss. The first 25 overs of our [bowling] innings was excellent," Gibson said. "But our fielding… Couple of dropped catches, which would've changed [things]. The way we fielded in the whole innings, particularly towards the end, New Zealand got 25, 30 runs too many. It wasn't a 280 pitch.

"Then losing a wicket through a run-out, when you need to be sensible for the first 20 [overs] - with the new balls, it's going be difficult. Losing a couple of wickets to run-outs was a tough blow. And then weather interrupted and that was that."

Two of West Indies' top three were run out in the chase of 286, and the team never sufficiently recovered - when the rains came, they were found to be 58 runs short of where they had to be via Duckworth-Lewis. Both those batsmen who were run out were replacements - Chadwick Walton and Kirk Edwards - brought in for injured players. "We're missing around six players now. Gayle, Pollard, [Darren] Bravo, Samuels, Sammy, Ravi [Rampaul], Roach … Basically, players are getting an opportunity that they wouldn't get if the above players were playing. And you have to say that these players are not taking the opportunities given to them."

While Darren Sammy, who has suffered a hamstring injury, is out for "two to three weeks", Gibson said Rampaul - finger injury - might be ready in time to play the fifth ODI on January 8, which West Indies must win to tie the series. "Ravi's [finger] was a little sore, but he's a tough guy. It's just his left hand, so his bowling won't be affected and once we get him pain-free, I'm pretty sure he will play."

"We're still waiting for the results [of the tests done on Sammy]. He's still limping around a bit. We're not sure how he's going to travel, but he's staying with us for a little longer. The injury is a two- to three-week situation. Hopefully, we can assess his situation for the T20s."

Gibson said the squad would be strengthened with the arrival of specialist T20 players from the Caribbean. "There are some guys coming in for the T20s in two days' time. Samuel Badree, Andre Russell and Andre Fletcher. We're down to bare bones, and need to look at integrating them into the mix, and try and move forward."

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  • NZ_Cricket_supporter on January 7, 2014, 0:49 GMT

    You cant blame the coach because the players cant catch.

  • adkum on January 5, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    The replacement that is needed but not happening is the replacement of the coach. When this happens WI will turn around. Right now an inquiry into the state of affairs is needed. WICB should not ignore Tony Cozier and Captain Bravo's comment of disunity in the team. WICB needs to confirm if there is disunity and if so what is the cause of the disunity. But how much can one expect of the WICB? It shows not accountability nor interest in seeing WI cricket advance. When Lloyd was not voted in even though he made himself available it shows how far insularity has gone to destroy WI cricket. Some may say England is performing poorly too. But the comparison is apples to oranges.

  • on January 5, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    where are players like j taylor, fidel edwards ,adrian barath, suliman benn, sarwan surely in WI domestic cricket there must be more talented players who can be given chances in the national team.

  • hsk-cricket on January 5, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    Sarwan, Chanderpaul, F Edwards, J Taylor, need to be brought in too. Dwayne Smith also needs to be considered as a replacement opener.

  • BRUTALANALYST on January 5, 2014, 8:56 GMT

    WOW no Santokie for the T20's ? what exactly is going to not give him a shot when he has been the best bowler in the region and even won best player of the tournament in the CPL . . .

  • rayinto on January 5, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    Mr Gibson, we are missing Chanderpaul and Sarwan too - compliments of you!

  • on January 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I for one think that this is the worst cricket team to ever tour New Zealand. We give them good pitches and decent hotels and they reward us with pathetic cricket. I won't bother with the games left on this tour.

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:34 GMT

    There is a calypso called Chauffeur wanted and it states the Driver cannot drive. I have long come to the conclusion that this fits the WICB President. Once again I give him free advice. Be decisive: 1. Fire the selectors with immediate effect; 2. Fire Gibson as soon as he lands in Barbados, and 3. Spend more of the WICB money on pitches, and coaches and scouts at the high school level than on contracts to failures and administrators. I end with a Jamaican reggae by Toots called Time Tough when he says "Ah lie down but sleep nah come." How can WI fans sleep with such incompetent management? Are we really clueless in the Caribbean?

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:32 GMT

    My dear Frayninho21 we don't select on performance but on a strange algorithm. Who was by far the best T20 bowler in the CPL and for many years? Please remind the selectors it is the swing bowler Santoki. How on earth the WI selectors could pick a T20 team without Santoki is remarkable.

  • on January 4, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    time to go giblet

  • NZ_Cricket_supporter on January 7, 2014, 0:49 GMT

    You cant blame the coach because the players cant catch.

  • adkum on January 5, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    The replacement that is needed but not happening is the replacement of the coach. When this happens WI will turn around. Right now an inquiry into the state of affairs is needed. WICB should not ignore Tony Cozier and Captain Bravo's comment of disunity in the team. WICB needs to confirm if there is disunity and if so what is the cause of the disunity. But how much can one expect of the WICB? It shows not accountability nor interest in seeing WI cricket advance. When Lloyd was not voted in even though he made himself available it shows how far insularity has gone to destroy WI cricket. Some may say England is performing poorly too. But the comparison is apples to oranges.

  • on January 5, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    where are players like j taylor, fidel edwards ,adrian barath, suliman benn, sarwan surely in WI domestic cricket there must be more talented players who can be given chances in the national team.

  • hsk-cricket on January 5, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    Sarwan, Chanderpaul, F Edwards, J Taylor, need to be brought in too. Dwayne Smith also needs to be considered as a replacement opener.

  • BRUTALANALYST on January 5, 2014, 8:56 GMT

    WOW no Santokie for the T20's ? what exactly is going to not give him a shot when he has been the best bowler in the region and even won best player of the tournament in the CPL . . .

  • rayinto on January 5, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    Mr Gibson, we are missing Chanderpaul and Sarwan too - compliments of you!

  • on January 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I for one think that this is the worst cricket team to ever tour New Zealand. We give them good pitches and decent hotels and they reward us with pathetic cricket. I won't bother with the games left on this tour.

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:34 GMT

    There is a calypso called Chauffeur wanted and it states the Driver cannot drive. I have long come to the conclusion that this fits the WICB President. Once again I give him free advice. Be decisive: 1. Fire the selectors with immediate effect; 2. Fire Gibson as soon as he lands in Barbados, and 3. Spend more of the WICB money on pitches, and coaches and scouts at the high school level than on contracts to failures and administrators. I end with a Jamaican reggae by Toots called Time Tough when he says "Ah lie down but sleep nah come." How can WI fans sleep with such incompetent management? Are we really clueless in the Caribbean?

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:32 GMT

    My dear Frayninho21 we don't select on performance but on a strange algorithm. Who was by far the best T20 bowler in the CPL and for many years? Please remind the selectors it is the swing bowler Santoki. How on earth the WI selectors could pick a T20 team without Santoki is remarkable.

  • on January 4, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    time to go giblet

  • simonviller on January 4, 2014, 19:46 GMT

    Given the authority ,I would have players like,,Smith ,Simmonds, Russell, , Cummins ,K Edwards and Pollard form a special core for WI cricket ,allowing them to develop their full potential by consistent play and good coaching, because they have special talents which need to be harnessed and utilised for the betterment of WI cricket .

  • simonviller on January 4, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    Here we go again !! Don't blame the "replacement player" for this one , blame yourself this time coach . Why would you sacrifice Walton as an opener , when you have Simmonds and Edwards as proven openers who have done good jobs in the past . I hope for heaven sake that this isn't a witch-hunt for Walton and Edwards especially who is the most equipped batsman of the lot . Why place such demands on some replacement players without giving them the fair chance which they deserve ,at a time when you're bringing in another replacement like Fletcher who has had his chance and that of others . It goes like the saying ,

  • clawills on January 4, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Nice to see Fletcher getting another chance. He is one of the most improved batsmen in the region. He looks much more matured than when he started first.

  • Georgetown1 on January 4, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    Mr.Gibson, Who do you think choose these replacements players? Presently if WI public do not stand-up for an inquest into the WICB we will continue to be in the same situation for the next 20 years. Ireland and Bangladesh are probably better equipped to test and one day cricket than this present WI team. We continue to languish in our past but spend no time present to improve our selves. Cozier says there are problems in the WI team but has anyone bother to check? NO. Can anyone imagine us playing the South Africans, WI will probably be annihilated in two days. WI in last twenty years has always loosing even with the big guns starting with decline of Walsh, Ambrose careers, then with Lara,Chander,Gayle,Sarwan but has the WI team management ever tried something different or CHANGE. NO. They continue with the mentality that the experienced/senior players will carry the team but for how long? England are loosing and look at what Swann did neither Lara or Chander attempted. Even Kallis.

  • Mekkayel on January 4, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    to be fair, Kirk Edwards looked more comfortable than both Charles and Walton & was unlucky to get run-out after he got a start. Incidently I would have preferred Kieran Powell over both Charles & Walton.

  • Frayninho21 on January 4, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    Johnson Charles and Tino Best were two of the worst performers and they are established international players. I welcome the new faces for the T20's and would give them all a go in those matches.

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  • Frayninho21 on January 4, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    Johnson Charles and Tino Best were two of the worst performers and they are established international players. I welcome the new faces for the T20's and would give them all a go in those matches.

  • Mekkayel on January 4, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    to be fair, Kirk Edwards looked more comfortable than both Charles and Walton & was unlucky to get run-out after he got a start. Incidently I would have preferred Kieran Powell over both Charles & Walton.

  • Georgetown1 on January 4, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    Mr.Gibson, Who do you think choose these replacements players? Presently if WI public do not stand-up for an inquest into the WICB we will continue to be in the same situation for the next 20 years. Ireland and Bangladesh are probably better equipped to test and one day cricket than this present WI team. We continue to languish in our past but spend no time present to improve our selves. Cozier says there are problems in the WI team but has anyone bother to check? NO. Can anyone imagine us playing the South Africans, WI will probably be annihilated in two days. WI in last twenty years has always loosing even with the big guns starting with decline of Walsh, Ambrose careers, then with Lara,Chander,Gayle,Sarwan but has the WI team management ever tried something different or CHANGE. NO. They continue with the mentality that the experienced/senior players will carry the team but for how long? England are loosing and look at what Swann did neither Lara or Chander attempted. Even Kallis.

  • clawills on January 4, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Nice to see Fletcher getting another chance. He is one of the most improved batsmen in the region. He looks much more matured than when he started first.

  • simonviller on January 4, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    Here we go again !! Don't blame the "replacement player" for this one , blame yourself this time coach . Why would you sacrifice Walton as an opener , when you have Simmonds and Edwards as proven openers who have done good jobs in the past . I hope for heaven sake that this isn't a witch-hunt for Walton and Edwards especially who is the most equipped batsman of the lot . Why place such demands on some replacement players without giving them the fair chance which they deserve ,at a time when you're bringing in another replacement like Fletcher who has had his chance and that of others . It goes like the saying ,

  • simonviller on January 4, 2014, 19:46 GMT

    Given the authority ,I would have players like,,Smith ,Simmonds, Russell, , Cummins ,K Edwards and Pollard form a special core for WI cricket ,allowing them to develop their full potential by consistent play and good coaching, because they have special talents which need to be harnessed and utilised for the betterment of WI cricket .

  • on January 4, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    time to go giblet

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:32 GMT

    My dear Frayninho21 we don't select on performance but on a strange algorithm. Who was by far the best T20 bowler in the CPL and for many years? Please remind the selectors it is the swing bowler Santoki. How on earth the WI selectors could pick a T20 team without Santoki is remarkable.

  • aclarity on January 4, 2014, 21:34 GMT

    There is a calypso called Chauffeur wanted and it states the Driver cannot drive. I have long come to the conclusion that this fits the WICB President. Once again I give him free advice. Be decisive: 1. Fire the selectors with immediate effect; 2. Fire Gibson as soon as he lands in Barbados, and 3. Spend more of the WICB money on pitches, and coaches and scouts at the high school level than on contracts to failures and administrators. I end with a Jamaican reggae by Toots called Time Tough when he says "Ah lie down but sleep nah come." How can WI fans sleep with such incompetent management? Are we really clueless in the Caribbean?

  • on January 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I for one think that this is the worst cricket team to ever tour New Zealand. We give them good pitches and decent hotels and they reward us with pathetic cricket. I won't bother with the games left on this tour.