New Zealand v West Indies, 5th ODI, Hamilton January 7, 2014

Ramdin asks WI batsmen, fielders to step up

Renaldo Matadeen
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Denesh Ramdin has urged the West Indies batsmen and fielders to step up their game if they are to level the ODI series in New Zealand. West Indies go into the fifth and final match in Hamilton trailing 1-2 and needing a win to save face in a rain-affected series that has been rough on the visitors.

"Our fielding was not up to standard in the last game," Ramdin said. "We're usually a good fielding unit but we ended up giving away too many chances. The first 25 overs were good but in the second 25, we gave away chances and runs."

Ramdin also pointed out that the top five batsmen need to do better than their recent stagnant performances to set a proper foundation whether chasing or batting first. "It's no secret that our batting has failed us recently against India and New Zealand. Hopefully, our top five will come out and get some runs on the board or lead a good chase. I believe they can finish this (series) on a good note. We're looking to give a good showing. It's been a long time for us away from home and we're looking forward to going home but we want to end on a high note and improve. We haven't batted well at all except for a few bright spots here and there."

Ramdin referred to West Indies' depleted squad which had left them short of experience as a key factor in their showing against New Zealand. Ramdin said that the absence of Chris Gayle, Kieron Pollard, Kemar Roach and the subsequent blows to Darren Bravo, Darren Sammy, Marlon Samuels and now, Ravi Rampaul, took a severe toll on the unit. "The injuries haven't been good for us. Now we have new guys coming in for selection. We'll do better in the Twenty20s and if this game is shortened, we will be ready. We know New Zealand are clicking in all aspects of the game."

He added that more support needed to be provided to Jason Holder, who he dubbed as their best bowler in the series. Ramdin felt Tino Best and Sunil Narine would be effective as long as the fielders stuck to plans. He bemoaned how their fundamentals such as backing up and simple catching pegged them back in the last couple of ODIs.

West Indies had lost the third Test in Hamilton earlier on the tour and Ramdin said the pitch was similar to the Test one. "The grass is greener and there's something for the bowlers, with the two new balls. Once the batters get past that, they should get some runs. It's frustrating with the weather. It's much more cold than we're accustomed to but we want to take this match down to wire and get a full 50 in."

On the mood in the camp, Ramdin said, "It's difficult but Bravo (Dwayne) has been motivating us in bringing a relaxed atmosphere to the dressing room so that we play our natural Caribbean style of cricket. It's tough so far but we have the belief despite not getting much success in New Zealand. Our respectability is on the line. We have a lot of cricket back in the Caribbean waiting on us so right now, we need to rally around each other."

Ramdin also brushed aside notions that West Indies were too reliant on T20 success recently. When asked if ODIs and Test cricket still appealed, he responded, "We enjoy playing these long formats but just haven't been getting the results. It's not a dying breed of cricket as many say. These are good challenges and the ultimate for cricketers. West Indies have players who are suitable for all formats.

"On the state of our cricket, it is important we keep working hard at the senior, U-15 and U-19 levels. We have to put on a show versus England back home and then there's the 50-over World Cup next year. I can see New Zealand being a dark horse as the co-host but we, as a team, will take it one step at a time, win some matches and gain confidence, especially with the T20 title defence in Bangladesh this year."

Renaldo Matadeen is a sportswriter and social media manager for ESPN Caribbean. He tweets here

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  • SamWintson92 on January 8, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    @ mngc: I respect your opinion mate. But the truth is that I don't see a keeper in WI who has some decent records with the bat. I feel Charles is a better bat than Ramdin surely and yes Charles can also drop down the order if he's blocking the opening slot as you said. Perhaps a very short-term solution but what can be done ? There's no other option either.

  • on January 8, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    Strange Ramdin can only ask for improvement after Crowe criticized him for poor fielding standards and a lack of urgency as a wicket keeper. He is reactionary and not really a leader in this case. This case is not one of speaking sense, its saving face.

  • on January 8, 2014, 0:53 GMT

    Some hope for the WEST INDIES-Russell in for TINO BEST & Kiernan Powell in for Deonarine. Best should have been replaced two matches ago, Smith should be placed in the team as an allrounder in place of Deonarine. Powell seems to be out of form-then maybe another stint in the field will do him good;Should he be playing ahead of DWAYNE SMITH.

  • adkum on January 8, 2014, 0:18 GMT

    Is there something to be read between the lines in what Ramdin said, "It's difficult but Bravo (Dwayne) has been motivating us in bringing a relaxed atmosphere to the dressing room so that we play our natural Caribbean style of cricket." Does this suggest that the atmosphere in the dressing room is NOT relaxed and that there is pressure for the players NOT to play their natural game. Seems like history is repeating itself. Remember the Gibson/Chanders/Sarwan fiasco. Let's take heed of all these hints. Sarwan became a mental wreck and Chanders almost succumbed. Tony Cozier set the bal l rolling about the disquiet in the WI camp. I wish more would speak up and let the cat out of the bag so that the problem can be fixed once and for all.

  • on January 7, 2014, 23:21 GMT

    let it go Ramdin... you're outclassed. Worry about equal and inferior oppositions.... the BlackCaps are a team that deserve to be and will be top 4 by the end of next year. Objective fact. Lolz

  • on January 7, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    Just don't get how come Chanders isn't in the ODI squad.

  • mngc1 on January 7, 2014, 19:00 GMT

    @samwinton92. An acceptable standard of runs for an opener must be higher than #7. Charles 28 when the standard must be 50+ gives him -22. Ramdin 22 when he should be 30 gives him -8. Unless you want Charles to bat at # 7 or lower the numbers do not support him being on the team. Charles does not have the talent to keep and cannot even make his regional side as keeper. Training would be useless from what I have seen. He is the worst international keeper ever in my books and there is no comparison to Akmal.

  • SamWintson92 on January 7, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    @ mngc: I agree with you that the keeping standard of Charles isn't upto mark but it can be sharpened if he is prepared well. A wicket keeper has to be a good batsman. The problem is that WI is loosing in this way or in that way. So, some steps need to be taken to alter that which can't be done with Ramdin. Making runs in longer format tests and making runs in shorter format ODIs are different thing. Ramdin only averages around 22 in the ODIs which is very poor. Look at Pakistan, Umar Akmal is doing a OK job. If the keeper can bat well it automatically opens up another slot for a batsman or a game changer all rounder.

  • on January 7, 2014, 16:53 GMT

    How refreshijg to hear someone speak with some intelligence and sense for a change than,(we won 6 straight test matches) yea, but against whom. wonder if this is a hint of chances to come? im' all for it.

  • CricketChat on January 7, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Would be nice if Ramdin promoted himself to top 3 in the batting order and shows the way to his teammates.

  • SamWintson92 on January 8, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    @ mngc: I respect your opinion mate. But the truth is that I don't see a keeper in WI who has some decent records with the bat. I feel Charles is a better bat than Ramdin surely and yes Charles can also drop down the order if he's blocking the opening slot as you said. Perhaps a very short-term solution but what can be done ? There's no other option either.

  • on January 8, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    Strange Ramdin can only ask for improvement after Crowe criticized him for poor fielding standards and a lack of urgency as a wicket keeper. He is reactionary and not really a leader in this case. This case is not one of speaking sense, its saving face.

  • on January 8, 2014, 0:53 GMT

    Some hope for the WEST INDIES-Russell in for TINO BEST & Kiernan Powell in for Deonarine. Best should have been replaced two matches ago, Smith should be placed in the team as an allrounder in place of Deonarine. Powell seems to be out of form-then maybe another stint in the field will do him good;Should he be playing ahead of DWAYNE SMITH.

  • adkum on January 8, 2014, 0:18 GMT

    Is there something to be read between the lines in what Ramdin said, "It's difficult but Bravo (Dwayne) has been motivating us in bringing a relaxed atmosphere to the dressing room so that we play our natural Caribbean style of cricket." Does this suggest that the atmosphere in the dressing room is NOT relaxed and that there is pressure for the players NOT to play their natural game. Seems like history is repeating itself. Remember the Gibson/Chanders/Sarwan fiasco. Let's take heed of all these hints. Sarwan became a mental wreck and Chanders almost succumbed. Tony Cozier set the bal l rolling about the disquiet in the WI camp. I wish more would speak up and let the cat out of the bag so that the problem can be fixed once and for all.

  • on January 7, 2014, 23:21 GMT

    let it go Ramdin... you're outclassed. Worry about equal and inferior oppositions.... the BlackCaps are a team that deserve to be and will be top 4 by the end of next year. Objective fact. Lolz

  • on January 7, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    Just don't get how come Chanders isn't in the ODI squad.

  • mngc1 on January 7, 2014, 19:00 GMT

    @samwinton92. An acceptable standard of runs for an opener must be higher than #7. Charles 28 when the standard must be 50+ gives him -22. Ramdin 22 when he should be 30 gives him -8. Unless you want Charles to bat at # 7 or lower the numbers do not support him being on the team. Charles does not have the talent to keep and cannot even make his regional side as keeper. Training would be useless from what I have seen. He is the worst international keeper ever in my books and there is no comparison to Akmal.

  • SamWintson92 on January 7, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    @ mngc: I agree with you that the keeping standard of Charles isn't upto mark but it can be sharpened if he is prepared well. A wicket keeper has to be a good batsman. The problem is that WI is loosing in this way or in that way. So, some steps need to be taken to alter that which can't be done with Ramdin. Making runs in longer format tests and making runs in shorter format ODIs are different thing. Ramdin only averages around 22 in the ODIs which is very poor. Look at Pakistan, Umar Akmal is doing a OK job. If the keeper can bat well it automatically opens up another slot for a batsman or a game changer all rounder.

  • on January 7, 2014, 16:53 GMT

    How refreshijg to hear someone speak with some intelligence and sense for a change than,(we won 6 straight test matches) yea, but against whom. wonder if this is a hint of chances to come? im' all for it.

  • CricketChat on January 7, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Would be nice if Ramdin promoted himself to top 3 in the batting order and shows the way to his teammates.

  • BRUTALANALYST on January 7, 2014, 15:47 GMT

    W.I need to put Powell back in the 11. I know he had a bad run but stick with him here maybe break from opening and bat lower down there's no way Deonarine should be keeping his place he has so much potential and was one of the only highlights from the recent India tour.

  • mngc1 on January 7, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    @samwinton92. Have yo ever looked at Charles keeping stats? He drops about 46 % of chances. His batting stats are worse as he is expected to produce more as an opener. His last few innings are 42, 12, 11, 9, 0, 0. As an opener he is expected to average 50+. Ramdin is batting better than most of the top 6 and that is where the problem lies - in the top 6 not performing together in any inning.

  • on January 7, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Ramdin has earned the right to encourage his teammates to step up their game, including Himself. He sees the need for leadership on & off the field; Therefore he is speaking up as part of the senior brigade. There is no GAYLE,POLLARD,SAMUEL or ROACH-Therefore He needs to shoulder more responsibility.BRAVO NEEDS HELP.I have been a serious critic of Ramdin, I thought his batting was appalling,his keeping not up to par. His dropping of the opening bats in the 4th.ODI-cause the WI-Dearly.He needs to stay on top of his game. His batting has improved,he sees leadership is needed among the group-I applaud him for taking a stand.Lets encourage the Team.WIN WINDIES.

  • SamWintson92 on January 7, 2014, 12:07 GMT

    Very funny to see Ramdin talking like that. First of all he needs to ''step up'' his batting. He's got such an ordinary batting stats overall. Needs a lift very badly. Can't understand how he always makes the XI. WI should play Charles as keeper in the shorter formats.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on January 7, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    A short term appointment as captain of the test side may well be what Ramdin needs to maintain his focus - which is patently the issue as he has the skills. His test batting average suffers from earlier years - look up his stats for the past 18 months or so and they are surprisingly good. The form with the gloves - and in the slip cordon in particular, is a great concern - but this goes back to the glory days of old. Since then, we've rarely had good slip fielders.

  • scottyg on January 7, 2014, 9:43 GMT

    of all the West Indians, at least Randim has shown signs of improvement in test cricket recently- since he came back into the side he has hit 3 hundreds and averaged 45, with no bad series in that lot. Alone amongst many of the West Indian senior players, he doesn't disappear off to play IPL or some other T20 Rubbish, so I don't think you can criticise him. better to have a go at senior players such as Samuels and Gayle who have been poor recently, yet have way more talent than players like Randim

  • class9ryan on January 7, 2014, 8:22 GMT

    If you look at these current West Indians they certainly lack quality. The batsmen never look settled and the bowlers are always on the verge of losing rhythm. The fielding well you have to say apart from a couple of fielders looks very untidy. Very important for young boys like Powell and Darren Bravo to know the art of making 100s at the top order. The seniors apart from Chanders look totally blunt-headed knifes. I think they are not really in best of positions, time to get few more islands in the Caribbean involved into this game.

  • Kamlaleo on January 7, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    Look whos talking. A guy who ave 20.22 in Odis without a SINGLE century on his name and Ave 27.25 in test with only 4 tests century. Why cant they just drop this guy and go fo Johnson? :S

  • wirus on January 7, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Spoken like the next WI test captain. What else could he say? He couldn't very well tell the truth - that would destroy his future leadership chances. The truth is that they have been mauled in India and here and can't wait to get home, which right now is the best place for them.

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  • wirus on January 7, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Spoken like the next WI test captain. What else could he say? He couldn't very well tell the truth - that would destroy his future leadership chances. The truth is that they have been mauled in India and here and can't wait to get home, which right now is the best place for them.

  • Kamlaleo on January 7, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    Look whos talking. A guy who ave 20.22 in Odis without a SINGLE century on his name and Ave 27.25 in test with only 4 tests century. Why cant they just drop this guy and go fo Johnson? :S

  • class9ryan on January 7, 2014, 8:22 GMT

    If you look at these current West Indians they certainly lack quality. The batsmen never look settled and the bowlers are always on the verge of losing rhythm. The fielding well you have to say apart from a couple of fielders looks very untidy. Very important for young boys like Powell and Darren Bravo to know the art of making 100s at the top order. The seniors apart from Chanders look totally blunt-headed knifes. I think they are not really in best of positions, time to get few more islands in the Caribbean involved into this game.

  • scottyg on January 7, 2014, 9:43 GMT

    of all the West Indians, at least Randim has shown signs of improvement in test cricket recently- since he came back into the side he has hit 3 hundreds and averaged 45, with no bad series in that lot. Alone amongst many of the West Indian senior players, he doesn't disappear off to play IPL or some other T20 Rubbish, so I don't think you can criticise him. better to have a go at senior players such as Samuels and Gayle who have been poor recently, yet have way more talent than players like Randim

  • SNIFFLEATHER on January 7, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    A short term appointment as captain of the test side may well be what Ramdin needs to maintain his focus - which is patently the issue as he has the skills. His test batting average suffers from earlier years - look up his stats for the past 18 months or so and they are surprisingly good. The form with the gloves - and in the slip cordon in particular, is a great concern - but this goes back to the glory days of old. Since then, we've rarely had good slip fielders.

  • SamWintson92 on January 7, 2014, 12:07 GMT

    Very funny to see Ramdin talking like that. First of all he needs to ''step up'' his batting. He's got such an ordinary batting stats overall. Needs a lift very badly. Can't understand how he always makes the XI. WI should play Charles as keeper in the shorter formats.

  • on January 7, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Ramdin has earned the right to encourage his teammates to step up their game, including Himself. He sees the need for leadership on & off the field; Therefore he is speaking up as part of the senior brigade. There is no GAYLE,POLLARD,SAMUEL or ROACH-Therefore He needs to shoulder more responsibility.BRAVO NEEDS HELP.I have been a serious critic of Ramdin, I thought his batting was appalling,his keeping not up to par. His dropping of the opening bats in the 4th.ODI-cause the WI-Dearly.He needs to stay on top of his game. His batting has improved,he sees leadership is needed among the group-I applaud him for taking a stand.Lets encourage the Team.WIN WINDIES.

  • mngc1 on January 7, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    @samwinton92. Have yo ever looked at Charles keeping stats? He drops about 46 % of chances. His batting stats are worse as he is expected to produce more as an opener. His last few innings are 42, 12, 11, 9, 0, 0. As an opener he is expected to average 50+. Ramdin is batting better than most of the top 6 and that is where the problem lies - in the top 6 not performing together in any inning.

  • BRUTALANALYST on January 7, 2014, 15:47 GMT

    W.I need to put Powell back in the 11. I know he had a bad run but stick with him here maybe break from opening and bat lower down there's no way Deonarine should be keeping his place he has so much potential and was one of the only highlights from the recent India tour.

  • CricketChat on January 7, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Would be nice if Ramdin promoted himself to top 3 in the batting order and shows the way to his teammates.