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New Zealand's England series to clash with IPL

ESPNcricinfo staff

June 1, 2012

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Schedule of NZ's England tour in 2013

  • May 4-6: Three-day game v Derbyshire
  • May 9-12: four-day game v England Lions
  • May 16-20 First Test
  • May 24-28: Second Test
  • May 31: First ODI
  • June 2: Second ODI
  • June 5: Third ODI
  • June 22: T20 v Kent
  • June 25: First T20
  • June 27: Second T20
  • (The Champions Trophy will be played between the ODIs and the T20s)

New Zealand's tour of England next year (see schedule alongside) is likely to overlap with the 2013 IPL season, forcing the likes of captain Ross Taylor, Brendon McCullum and Daniel Vettori to choose which series to take part in. Next year's IPL is set to start on April 3 and is expected to run till the end of May, while New Zealand's warm-up matches begin on May 4.

The clash in schedules seems to violate the terms of the eight-year agreement between NZC, the players' association and the six major domestic associations that called for a clear IPL window for New Zealand's cricketers.

Since the deal was signed in August 2010, there has been only one IPL season during which there were no international commitments for New Zealand's players. Five New Zealand cricketers - Vettori, Taylor, Brendon McCullum, Nathan McCullum and Jesse Ryder - currently on a central contract have signed up with IPL franchises.

While Ryder's New Zealand contract will come to an end in June, other IPL players like allrounder James Franklin and fast bowler Doug Bracewell will be in line for contracts.

So far New Zealand, unlike West Indies, have not had to field a weakened side due to the IPL.

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Posted by   on (June 4, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

Who cares about a boring test series between eng and nz... not even the nz players...

Posted by 1st_april on (June 4, 2012, 3:46 GMT)

@maddy20 only a matter of time.....with your current crop of 'test' cricketers....winning test series in India will become a sinecure...i expect a minimum of 2-0 win for Australia next summer in India...we have a decent record in India 12 wins 15 loses.....Clarke and Dhoni have daylight difference in their captaincy approaches

Posted by maddy20 on (June 4, 2012, 1:06 GMT)

@maximum6 You got it all wrong pal. Players are free to skip IPL if they want. They cannot play in IPL without getting NOC from their respective boards. Its just that since the financial rewards are so huge, NZC made a window for it in their player contracts. If there is anyone to be blamed here its the board that has scheduled the series knowing well that the IPL would clash with it! @nzcricket174 Don't worry. They won't be number .1 after this July . If they somehow survive the Saffas, India will take care of their ranking!

Posted by maddy20 on (June 4, 2012, 0:59 GMT)

@1st_april Well. England did not win a series in India in a long long time. No team has won a series in India in 9 years, the only country to boast such a record. Besides it is easy to make excuses like redundant format etc., when you lose the format every time. A dominant team should be flexible enough to beat teams in all formats. If they can't then they are not No.1 @Herath-UK Incentives to NZ, SL etc.,? Are you kidding? Did you ever see ECB helping fellow boards financially ? When SLC was in trouble BCCI scheduled tours to Lanka repeatedly to drag them out(during the 2007-2009 period). Even though that was an overkill it did solve the board's problems. Did you ever see ECB do that? Also understand that IPL is financial security for players after they retire. NZC contracts are about 1/30 of the fee they get in IPL/season. Period!

Posted by Reverend-Cavalier on (June 3, 2012, 8:13 GMT)

This scheduling is an arm wrestle between ECB and BCCI.

Posted by   on (June 3, 2012, 7:02 GMT)

at abaa - If ICC allows BCI to get a window for them they should allow others too..U have to treat all countries equally ! Thats why ICC doesnt allow a window.

Posted by Timmuh on (June 3, 2012, 1:45 GMT)

Cricket_Analyst, there are sometimes games "provisionally" scheduled in tours of England. Usually they are against counties who may be available depending on whether they are taking part in finals of limited overs comps,and a reserve county is named in case of unavailability. In this case, NZ will presumably simply not play against Kent if they make the final of the Champions Trophy.

Posted by Abaa on (June 2, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

I'm not a big fan of the IPL. But without being selfish, we need to consider the situation these people are in. They're having the option of making in a week what they can otherwise make in a year. The IPL might not be good for cricket. But it is a haven for cricketers. It is their life and they have the right to make whatever decision they wish to. The best option is to create a window for the IPL. Only for the IPL and not any of the other tournaments like BBL or BPL or SLPL. Because if every country was to have its own tournament, there would be no time for real cricket. But two months set aside for one tournament that is beneficial for cricketers can be thought of. The IPL is a total waste of time from an honest cricketing point of view but if the entertainment quotient and the financial security it can provide to cricketers is considered, it is definitely worth making a provision for.

Posted by Herath-UK on (June 2, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

This was exactly the scenario last year when Sri Lankan stars landed just before the Tests and struggled to adjust to the conditions;I think the ultimate suffering is to the English cricket being subjected to humiliation;ECB should take a positive stand and help the boards in NZ,Sri Lanka and WI etc to give incentives to these stars or it should consider to postpone the early summer Tests by about two weeks with series going to late autumn.I do not think it has the wherewithal to negociate with IPL to cut down it to about four weeks.

Ranil Herath -Kent

Posted by 1st_april on (June 2, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

@maddy20 nope.....i would take test series wins in IND/SAF/ENG over the world cup....which is the biggest tournament of the redundant format of the game i.e. 50 over cricket

Posted by AdrianVanDenStael on (June 2, 2012, 15:04 GMT)

@Rushikey: I was talking about the test world rankings so KP's retirement from one-day and twenty20 cricket is irrelevant to my point

Posted by Sinhaya on (June 2, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

Well everybody have a look at the FTP! Next year May, Sri Lanka are suppose to tour Windies for 2 tests, 3 ODIs and 2 T20s. I am sure Mahela, Sanga, Angelo and Dilshan will only agree to take part in the tests thanks to our useless cricket board who cares the least about player welfare!!

Posted by maddy20 on (June 2, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

@1st_april I would take that qnyday instead of 1 worldcup to show for after 150 years of cricket! Not to mention the 3-0 whitewash against Pakistan to celebrate the no1 ranking!

Posted by Cricket_Analyst on (June 2, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

Something seems to be wrong about the schedule of NZ In England...They have a T20 match against Kent on June 22nd whereas Champions Trophy Final is on 23rd June...Looks like a serious error in reporting or ECB / ICC Goof up to me. Pls. refer the Champions trophy Schedule over here...http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2013/content/story/566950.html

Posted by Meety on (June 2, 2012, 11:49 GMT)

@landl47 - re: IPL & May tests for NZ. Most players will be back, but how much pre-test FC exposure will they have had? It won't be ideal & NZ will need good preparation. I do think the KP retirement thing was a bit of a hissy fit or game of chicken & it appears the ECB won't play! (Good & bad move). @SirViv73 - I like the concept of Nth/Sth to reduce matches, the only thing I am unsure about is, I think there is already a have & have-nots in the IPL & more teams will probably increase the problem of disparity of talent!

Posted by SirViv1973 on (June 2, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

@Gagg, the problem is ODI's are still a big money spinner especially for the ECB hence why a series with Aus has replaced a 4th test against SAF this summer, it's also the reason why we have another Champs trophy next summer & not a test championship.

Posted by StevieS on (June 2, 2012, 10:31 GMT)

Scap the ODI's and move the tests to June, problem solved. Honesty who really cares about ODI's any more? More t20's for the money and more tests for the cricket.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (June 2, 2012, 9:24 GMT)

@Meety pretty much agree with all you've said on this board, @Jim1207 I'm with Meety here your comparism with EPL isn't the best! Also to cut down on travelling why not add 3 new franchises & spilt in to a 2 conferences nth & sth that would cut the games in the regular reason to 10 per franchise and mean the competiton could be played in 5 - 6 wks which would make a window more feasible.

Posted by waitara on (June 2, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

Two Tests only? And ONE other first class game? This is getting worse every year. Look how many Tests other countries play.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (June 2, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

@nzcicket174, If the series isnt played in may nxt year when do you suggest it be played ? the Champ Trophy is here in Jun, then there are the ashes in Jul/Aug then the odis against Aus in sept & then there is the CLT20 window. there is simply no other place in the sch for this series to take place. In my previous comment I have suggested there be a compromise between the IPL and the ECB to try to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future but i'm sure it wont happen.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (June 2, 2012, 8:59 GMT)

@Land47, I disagree with your comments regarding NZL not having many players in IPL Vettori, Taylor,Mccullum, Ryder & Bracewell have all played there this season & would all be in NZL best X1 for tests. Nathen Mccullum could be in the frame too & Southee also played last yr & will no doubt put himself forward for the auction nxt year so there could be issues with up to half of the team. A NZL team without these players would probably be even less competitive than the current WI tourists. @Rolfardo I don't like 2 match series either but NZL are still playing plenty of 3 games series, I believe Eng play 3 in NZL nxt March & aren't you playing 3 in india prior to world T20 ? I would think NZL will get 3 nxt time you come to Eng it's just this time round your boys are here during an ashes summer.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (June 2, 2012, 8:42 GMT)

As suggested in David Hopps column of a few days ago a compromise could be reached. If IPL could be reduced to 6 wks it could finish mid May & if ECB could delay the start of the int summer by a wk or 2 that would seem prudent, WI could then potentially play one home series prior to IPL in March & one after it in Jun/Jul. That seems pretty sensible but my fear is the ipl is a monster which keeps getting longer each year & then there is the problem of it's ugly spin off the CLT20. Any window set a side for ipl would mean that the current window for CL would have to go & would potentially cause the same club v country issues we are seeing now with IPL. As well as this the ipl has plans to play associate teams between jun & Aug. In order to heighten the profile of each franchise im sure they will still want to field int stars for these games which will once again bring back the club v country problems.

Posted by Bruisers on (June 2, 2012, 7:37 GMT)

@1st_april - Still haven't got over it huh? Ridiculous.

Posted by RandyOZ on (June 2, 2012, 4:36 GMT)

Two test series should be banned. This is an utter disgrace.

Posted by Vernacular_Press on (June 2, 2012, 3:59 GMT)

I thought EPL was created just 20 years back.What tradition it has?

Posted by 1st_april on (June 2, 2012, 3:44 GMT)

'IPL is bigger than Ashes.'...........agreed...0-8 has its traumatic effects

Posted by Rolfardeo on (June 2, 2012, 2:55 GMT)

Why is it that New Zealand can never play in a 3 test series anymore? I know that we just played one against SA ,but one is not nearly good enough especially when it is tacked on at the end of the summer and is virtually guaranteed to be badly affected by weather. Is it because they are not being allowed to, or are they simply neglecting tests in favor of playing more games of the mostly pointless shorter formats? I don't see how any of the lower ranked test teams will ever improve if they are forced to persist with these 2 test series. The top teams seemingly play twice the number of matches as us (maybe not literally . . . but they do play a lot more). Until the lower team can play more tests I can never see them a making a significant move up the rankings. You can not improve if you are not playing.

Posted by Meety on (June 1, 2012, 23:27 GMT)

@Jim1207 - Oz is twice as big as the "vast" India. The EPL is not a great comparison as there is well over 100 yrs of tradition & club level soccer is supreme except during the International window. IMO it is overkill.

Posted by R.Taylor13 on (June 1, 2012, 22:53 GMT)

I don't mind the missing out of players in the IPL, the biggest joke is that there's only two TEST matches! And to a lesser extent only two t20s, do the schedulers realize that there's a much higher chance of no result, eg a draw, coming out of only two matches. Also, how do they expect lower ranked test teams to improve when we only get half the test matches compared to countries such as England and Australia. Ridiculous and unfair.

Posted by 512fm on (June 1, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

Its not really that big of a deal I mean if the IPL starts April 3 then they can hang around for the first month even miss the game against Derbyshire. They'll still get to play in over half of the tournament.

Posted by landl47 on (June 1, 2012, 22:03 GMT)

@Meety/zwardetepiet: Fair point, but although both sides will have players in the IPL (accepting that England's will find it easier to choose to come back early), by the time of the first test almost all of them will be finished over there- and hasn't KP told us that IPL is great preparation for test cricket? Speaking of KP, after his latest 'toys of out the pram' incident (if I can't tweet what I like, I'm not playing, so there), what would you care to bet that he'll stay in India if his IPL side is still in the competition?

Posted by brittop on (June 1, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

@Sreejith Menon (on June 01 2012, 14:25 PM GMT): If that's true, it's because the IPL is free-to-air in the UK, and tests are only available by subscription.

Posted by Kunagpal on (June 1, 2012, 20:09 GMT)

does this mean that ross taylor doset have to play for Delhi Daredevils anymore? Thank god......

Posted by Jim1207 on (June 1, 2012, 18:05 GMT)

Meety, think about EPL football in England. Manchester teams win the trophy mostly, but there are 20 teams, most of them fighting to avoid relegation. Can you understand why there are so many teams and play each other for 9 months? You could see IPL has only 9 teams and finish in 7 weeks. Do you see how much travel they have to do within a vast country like India and how much weary that is. Wrapping up IPL quicker is not like wrapping up a chicken sandwich.

Posted by krv954 on (June 1, 2012, 18:02 GMT)

I find it unfair that a player who chooses IPL over International cricket is perceived as not being loyal. And I believe any person who says that is a hypocrite. This is the livelihood of the players. Although I am not a fan of the IPL, IPL is a great chance for these players to be financially secure over a short playing career. Put yourself in their position, if you had to choose a high playing job that would secure your family's financial future, wouldn't you take it?

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 17:15 GMT)

Only two tests? What a joke.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

sreejith - your comment about IPL getting more coverage than a test match is based on what? Sorry - I don't recognise the data and am intrigued as to where it comes from. Regards

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 15:30 GMT)

Adrian - as an Englishman I can but agree with you. Just because we aren't involved really in the IPL element, doesn't mean it doesn't impact. To be honest 2-0 defeats of badly weakened visiting sides, in the coldest / wettest (usually) month, aren't what cricket is about. This year - to be fair the WIndies have made a better fight than many - but usually it's a joke. Ranking points for old rope. Put the tests back to earlier June ( 3 weeks is enough) then a 4 week break for ODIs, then a 5/6 week dash for 5 tests throughout the school holidays of late July / August. This year the Olympics distorts which means the English supporter is shortchanged a proper tournament against South Africa, but in future it shoudl be possible to get a proper season in

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

it's such a sad thing that the cricketers are putting forward club cricket ahead of international games

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

IPL is bigger than Ashes.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

Do you know the fact that IPL had higher coverage in UK than a Test match played by England?

Posted by Rushikey on (June 1, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

@AdrianVanDenStael, How conveniently you forgot announcement made by English Player Kevin Peterson about his retirement from ODI and T20 at the age of 31 :)

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

I'd be very surprised if any of the NZ players opted for the IPL. They'd still get to play the first month and I think they have more loyalty to their national team than Gayle and Bravo etc. For the sake of NZ cricket I hope they do! The chance to play in a Lord's test is pretty big carrot also.

Posted by bvnathan on (June 1, 2012, 13:57 GMT)

At times you see one of the teams in IPL being idle for more than 5 days before the next match? Instead of 16 matches per team, reduce the matches to 14 per team (9 @home and 5@away) - you can make it 7@Home / 7@Away matches which will make the teams & matches more competitive and eliminate the home ground advantage. A total of more than 10 matches can be scheduled per week (M/T, W,Th/ F, Sa, Su) based on the logistics involving all teams, to reduce the lag any of the teams may experience. For e.g. MI playing an away game in Chennai may also play 2 more away games @Bangalore & @Hyderabad to reduce the travel hiccups. - IPL is a tournament which is a welcome relief for all players to shed their inhibition and showcase their talent. Also the players involved also look forward to the financial gains to take care of their needs post playing time.

Posted by Meety on (June 1, 2012, 13:43 GMT)

@Tom Cooke - well said. I find it appaling that comments would categorise a player lookin after his family & future as potentially being undedicated. @pom_don - can't understand why they can't rap the IPL up quicker. There is enough indication that there is at least one too many teams already!!!

Posted by jplterrors on (June 1, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

This is a disaster for NZ, who will "retire" from tests next for NZ. Ryder not signing that contract makes sense now.

Posted by Meety on (June 1, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

@ landl47 - "...the schedule works quite well next year..." - for England mate, NOT for NZ. If you'd read the article properly, there could be 7 NZ players in conflict between IPL & Test matches. Not a problem for England, because the central contracts that England have (like Oz), are such that the players will accept the primacy of Tests. For NZ, where any sport that is NOT Rugby Union, the central contracts NEED to be supplemented. I understand England's weather combined with a 10 Team FTP scheduling requires May tests, but this will NOT be good for Test cricket. NZ have possibly the smallest talent pool in world cricket, they can't afford the possibility of 3/4 of their team being unavailable! @AdrianVanDenStael - good point, although I would clarify, it would not be by design, just circumstance. == == == What if the IPL was moved to June/July - now THAT would put the cat amongst the pigeons in England (Jan/Feb/Mar for Oz).

Posted by zwartedepiet on (June 1, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

@landl47 umm, nz doesnt have many ipl players so it shouldnt affect the series too much???????!!!! Umm, a NZ test team without Vettori, McCullum and Taylor, hmmm. Prob be others aswell. Lets just hope that the players put their country first. Will be great to see a NZ-Eng test series in England.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

Agree with Arthur Vidiarthi about the need for a window, but I suspect this will prove impossible as the give and take required will not be considere to be in the intersts of either party. The number of matches taken up by the IPL makes it a very long window, and these are unlikely to be reduced by the money people of the IPL. I also suspect that the ECB will be reluctant to change "traditional" schedules (which aren't actually traditional at all, but have been moved earlier and earlier in the hope that it won't rain) to the start of the English season. I don't agree with TimelssTests' comment. Whilst I would prefer to see the dedicated play cricket, the current West Indies series is devalued by having probably not the strongest WI XI in the setup (although less to do with the IPL and more the board) and i would prefer to see the best contest possible. If there is an option for the "undedicated" to play both, I reckon they will.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

Wao tough choice.... :) Wao tough choice.... :) Wao tough choice.... :)

Posted by Mob_King on (June 1, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

This is like the Hunger Games. NZL is another side, like Windies etc, who do not have the Queen's fortune (let alone the population) to throw behind grassroots cricket development.

IPL needs a window. Don't make our heroes choose!

Posted by AdrianVanDenStael on (June 1, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

A little noted aspect of England's rise to no.1 in the world test rankings is that it's coincided almost exactly with the emergence of IPL. When IPL started in April 2008, England were ranked about 5th. This isn't surprising because England is the country where least attention's given by cricket supporters, players and the cricket establishment to the IPL. Therefore they're least distracted by IPL and least affected by clashes ike this. Almost every other test playing team has had players who have stopped playing test cricket at some point yet carried on playing IPL (Lee, Malinga, Kumble, Bravo, Gayle, Gilchrist, etc), but not England: in fact in comparison there are hardly any English players in the IPL at all. This time next year I can see England get another 2-0 victory against another opponent, who are hardly the strongest team at the best of times and are further weakened by losing players to IPL. Nice ranking points for England, but not good for the integrity of tests or rankings

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (June 1, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

When the IPL began they asserted that IPL was never intended to supplant or stand in the way of Test commitments and that obviuosly Tests had primacy. Perhaps they should start to honour that and not sign players during a period of their country's international coomitments.I.E stick a standard clause into contracts stating clearly that any player who is selected to paly for their country is not bound by any IPL term of contract.

Posted by nzcricket174 on (June 1, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

Once again England trying their hardest to get rid of the IPL. Its also another way to stay high in the rankings. Schedule series against sides with their best players in the IPL as to get an easy clean sweep.

Posted by landl47 on (June 1, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Actually, the schedule works quite well next year. Having the Champions Trophy between the test series will keep interest high and there's enough time for recovery. No-one in England gives a hoot about the IPL (except KP), so it won't be a problem for England and NZ doesn't have too many IPL players either. It will be great to see NZ again- England hasn't played tests against NZ for several years.

Posted by o-bomb on (June 1, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

This is likely to happen every year as the people who run the game in India have identified April and May as the best time to have the IPL and the somewhat short length of the English summer gives us only a limited time for international matches here. I can't see either of these things changing. Whilst clashes like these are unfortunate, the sad state of affairs is that we're just going to have to live with them.

Posted by jb633 on (June 1, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

To put it simply something has got to be done about the IPL. Personally I am a huge critic of the IPL but as it is not going anywhere fast the cricketing world needs to act to save the game. I think a window is a viable option but the number of games in the IPL needs to be reduced. I think that certainly international cricket can't clash with the IPL as commesne sense would suggest that players will always put money over their country( which in many ways is fair enough). It can't happen that WI are fielding a 2nd XI against the world no1 side because of the IPL. If the ICC does not act to accomadate the IPL then the repuatation of the glaobal game will continue to diminish.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 11:32 GMT)

It seems that this is going to be a senario that emerges every year with England playing a one sided series against a lower ranked test team who's good players will either be absent picking up a pay cheque from their IPL clubs or ill prepared after getting off a plane from India a few days before the start of a test match.

I like the IPL, but really, a two month T20 tournament is simply over kill.

Posted by pom_don on (June 1, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

Let them who want to play synthetic cricket go play it & the proper cricket can be played by the dedicated, I know which I will be watching, as much as I liked watching KP in one day/ 20/20 mode I will not be watching him in the IPL it's just all about the razzmatazz & not cricket!

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

well even now the first test starts on MAY 16 so unless KP retires from test cricket, he would still be missing the latter stages of IPL 6 just like this year

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

ECB and Newzealad cricket should be prepared for more retriments like Kevin Ptersen/malinga if they schdule series in IPL time.

Posted by satish619chandar on (June 1, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

The trend continues.. Every year England has a series clashing with IPL.. Doubt how they are going to control the players who wanted to play in IPL..

Posted by TimelessTests on (June 1, 2012, 10:40 GMT)

Good. England players on lucrative central contracts do not 'need' to go off to the IPL and we do not want to watch the undedicated drag themselves through a Test match unwillingly. Boys, this way; men, over here.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

IPL needs a window,clashes like these downgrade Cricket on both fronts.Also Ipl6 starting at 3rd O April ? Lame.That means theyre still perisisting with 75matches . Cut em down to 15per team.

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