New Zealand cricket February 7, 2014

Ryder, Bracewell under investigation for night out

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New Zealand players Jesse Ryder and Doug Bracewell are under investigation after visiting a bar on the eve of the first Test against India in Auckland. A release from NZC said the board would investigate the incident over the next few days.

Mike Sandle, New Zealand's manager, said the players had confirmed they were out at a bar until early hours on Thursday morning and added he was disappointed by the incident.

"Their behaviour is totally unacceptable the night before a match," Sandle said. "We trust the players to make good decisions and the pair have breached this trust."

Bracewell and Ryder were both part of the Test squad with Ryder being picked as a back-up for Ross Taylor, whose second child is expected during the Test series. Both players were not part of the playing XI for the first Test and were released to play for their respective first-class teams in the Plunket Shield. Bracewell, however, was ruled out of the Central Districts match after suffering a foot injury.

Bracewell and Ryder had earlier faced disciplinary issues during the series against South Africa in March 2012. Both players were dropped from the ODI team after breaking team protocol, following the match in Napier. In November last year, Bracewell was dropped from the Central Districts side for an HRV Cup game after a late night out.

The ODI against South Africa in Napier in March 2012 was also the last match Ryder played for New Zealand until his recent comeback against West Indies. Following the incident, the batsman, who has had disciplinary issues in the past, decided to take an indefinite break from cricket. In March 2013, Ryder was assaulted outside a bar in Christchurch and spent two days in a medically induced coma before making a recovery. In August 2013, he was given a retrospective, six-month ban for failing a routine drug test while playing domestic cricket.

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  • on February 11, 2014, 17:49 GMT

    Jesse Ryder's story so much resembles to the story of Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad.....talented but wasting life in other unnecessary activities. Infact they have the same first names...

  • JIMCHEW on February 10, 2014, 0:15 GMT

    Ryder has let down his fans! I was hoping he could be a future opener in tests. Giving excuses for his behavior will not get him back on the team. The ball is in his court. Hate to see him become an "also-ran".

  • on February 9, 2014, 22:27 GMT

    I wish that would just say lets forget Jessie Ryder he's a liability or just let him play and be himself. There's been plenty of characters in cricket that are good players but are flawed as people. They still performed and got managed the way they were. Why cant this be any different?

  • Patchmaster on February 9, 2014, 20:59 GMT

    Enough is enough. NZ team spirit is in a great place at the moment. We (as fans) don't want alcohol and mistrust etc etc coming into that environment. Plus we scored 500 runs without him, so lets not destroy al the hard work by bringing him back. As for Bracewell, we have Wagner now, so no thanks mate.

  • on February 9, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    To go out drinking the night before a test match (if they were part of the set up), well, they must have known that it wouldn't look good. Supposing that they knew that , I can only guess that they either didn't care or that the desire to go out and drink was too strong. That shows either a lack of respect for the professionalism of the team ethos or they have a drink problem. (I hope it isn't the latter because , if it is, they need to sort it out away from the media gaze). Either way, it's poor stuff and in both their cases how many times do you keep saying this is the last time? Sadly in this 'professional' age, both appear to be throwbacks to a different time where it was much more acceptable. NZ beer is rubbish anyway!

  • Dodgydave on February 9, 2014, 9:38 GMT

    And now he is 100* for Otago. Would anyone prefer the well behaved Peter Fulton to continue open the batting for NZ or the "that rascal" Jesse Ryder? I know who I would choose. Give that man a beer!

  • on February 9, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    Jesse Ryder is one of the most strong and good all-rounder in the world of cricket.....!But his behaviour is one of the worst that any player have had in the history of sports....!Give him a last warning and he is an important player as far as new zealand is concern.....!He is a nice guy...i believe in him

  • drnaveed on February 9, 2014, 4:36 GMT

    " a huge talent " , but where ??? , on the ground or in the bar ???.he plays a few games than sits out as a result of his un-cricketing activities.when someone represents his Country , he goes one step ahead of just been called a public figure, he actually is an ambassador, representing his Country, as was the case with salman butt, muhammad amir and muhammad asif .if you do some thing good , your Country will feel proud of you ,but when you involve yourself in un-wanted activities , other than cricket ,this shows you don't care for the name of your Country and your team.

  • drnaveed on February 9, 2014, 4:07 GMT

    ryder , well he is not going to correct himself,even after getting a second life.a talented cricketer wasting his talent , by involving himself in off the field activities .Making headlines all the time, but unfortunately , not in the cricket grounds..

  • on February 8, 2014, 23:23 GMT

    @cricketnot because this wasn't a spare time for him. There is no job in this world that would accept it's employees getting intoxicated around a time when it can affect their performance and decision making

  • on February 11, 2014, 17:49 GMT

    Jesse Ryder's story so much resembles to the story of Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad.....talented but wasting life in other unnecessary activities. Infact they have the same first names...

  • JIMCHEW on February 10, 2014, 0:15 GMT

    Ryder has let down his fans! I was hoping he could be a future opener in tests. Giving excuses for his behavior will not get him back on the team. The ball is in his court. Hate to see him become an "also-ran".

  • on February 9, 2014, 22:27 GMT

    I wish that would just say lets forget Jessie Ryder he's a liability or just let him play and be himself. There's been plenty of characters in cricket that are good players but are flawed as people. They still performed and got managed the way they were. Why cant this be any different?

  • Patchmaster on February 9, 2014, 20:59 GMT

    Enough is enough. NZ team spirit is in a great place at the moment. We (as fans) don't want alcohol and mistrust etc etc coming into that environment. Plus we scored 500 runs without him, so lets not destroy al the hard work by bringing him back. As for Bracewell, we have Wagner now, so no thanks mate.

  • on February 9, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    To go out drinking the night before a test match (if they were part of the set up), well, they must have known that it wouldn't look good. Supposing that they knew that , I can only guess that they either didn't care or that the desire to go out and drink was too strong. That shows either a lack of respect for the professionalism of the team ethos or they have a drink problem. (I hope it isn't the latter because , if it is, they need to sort it out away from the media gaze). Either way, it's poor stuff and in both their cases how many times do you keep saying this is the last time? Sadly in this 'professional' age, both appear to be throwbacks to a different time where it was much more acceptable. NZ beer is rubbish anyway!

  • Dodgydave on February 9, 2014, 9:38 GMT

    And now he is 100* for Otago. Would anyone prefer the well behaved Peter Fulton to continue open the batting for NZ or the "that rascal" Jesse Ryder? I know who I would choose. Give that man a beer!

  • on February 9, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    Jesse Ryder is one of the most strong and good all-rounder in the world of cricket.....!But his behaviour is one of the worst that any player have had in the history of sports....!Give him a last warning and he is an important player as far as new zealand is concern.....!He is a nice guy...i believe in him

  • drnaveed on February 9, 2014, 4:36 GMT

    " a huge talent " , but where ??? , on the ground or in the bar ???.he plays a few games than sits out as a result of his un-cricketing activities.when someone represents his Country , he goes one step ahead of just been called a public figure, he actually is an ambassador, representing his Country, as was the case with salman butt, muhammad amir and muhammad asif .if you do some thing good , your Country will feel proud of you ,but when you involve yourself in un-wanted activities , other than cricket ,this shows you don't care for the name of your Country and your team.

  • drnaveed on February 9, 2014, 4:07 GMT

    ryder , well he is not going to correct himself,even after getting a second life.a talented cricketer wasting his talent , by involving himself in off the field activities .Making headlines all the time, but unfortunately , not in the cricket grounds..

  • on February 8, 2014, 23:23 GMT

    @cricketnot because this wasn't a spare time for him. There is no job in this world that would accept it's employees getting intoxicated around a time when it can affect their performance and decision making

  • dogandbone on February 8, 2014, 22:07 GMT

    Lets not throw these two very talented young guys under the bus just yet.

    Bracewell seems to have been out of favour since Hesson has come on board . We must remember , Bracewell did win a test against Australia along with Boult and Southee under Taylor /Wright.

    Questions of management need to be asked as to why, if the drinking issue has been going on for sometime as it appears it has, why has something not been done about it before now.?

  • on February 8, 2014, 21:12 GMT

    The combined iq of these two wouldn't even push bracewells batting average of about 8

  • BatBowlCatch on February 8, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    Jesse has done nothing to hurt anybody else in this case. Base each issue on it's merits. So what if he got drunk. So does half of NZ every week. We advertise and support binge drinking in NZ yet hound Jesse for being a typical New Zealander. If he can train, practice and play when it matters then who cares what he does in his spare time. Bracewell is no different. The only trouble is the twit keeps injuring himself while drunk. Nobody was hurt or had their feelings hurt. There are bigger issues in the cricketing world than this.

  • Lermy on February 8, 2014, 19:59 GMT

    Jesse is a world class drinking talent. I don't know why you people want him to give that up to concentrate on his batting. The all-round skills he brings to the balance of the team should be acknowledged. You need someone who can anchor a good drinking session from one end.

  • jimmyvida on February 8, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    Some guys can hold their liquor and actually perform better. We all know this to be true. I, for one, can't. One drink and I am done for. Let the investigation proceed and hope they are not too harsh on Jesse.

  • cardassian on February 8, 2014, 19:33 GMT

    Can't believe people are comparing Ryder to KP. Ryder was silly and went for a few too many drinks. KP actively tried to undermine and get rid of the coach. Anyone that thinks what KP did was minor obviously hasn't been a part of a well functioning team.

  • mxnmxn on February 8, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    @Thomas. I have seen all 5 ODIs NZ played against India. Ryder was not impressive in any one. Approximately how many matches should I follow to realize his talent?

  • on February 8, 2014, 15:55 GMT

    @mxnmxn if you don't think Jesse Ryder is a huge talent you clearly have never seen him play. Ridiculous thing to say.

  • mxnmxn on February 8, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    @KBCA : When a player plays an international game; he becomes public figure. Cricket fans have every right to express their opinions. Besides, 20+ scoring Jesse is not a huge talent either. To become a great player like Martin Crow you need to dig in and show what you are ... On the ground.

  • on February 8, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    so he wants to have a few drinks,he is an adult cannot micromanage people,these are athletes not some choir boys.

  • OhhhhhMattyMatty on February 8, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Why, Why, Why Jesse Ryder!? Why, Why, Why Jesse Ryder?! Long before, the selectors say no more! Forgive me Ross Taylor I won't be a git anymore!!!

  • on February 8, 2014, 13:03 GMT

    This is the difference between true champions and mediocre sides. Remember how the great Aussie team sacked Symonds. Symonds was a prodigy and yet the Aussies were brave enough to sideline as gifted a player as him. On the flip side, the NZ board has given countless chances to Ryder who doesn't let go any chance to ridicule his country. This is the sole reason why NZ has remained an average side for decades now.

  • KBCA on February 8, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    All u foreigners calling for nzc to sack Jesse, Stay out of it! None of your business our selection process. Ryder is quite simply one of our 2 most gifted batsmen. He should play whenever he is fit, off field behaviour means nothing.

  • Anwar-Lara on February 8, 2014, 10:43 GMT

    Jesse Ryder...here we go again!!

  • jb633 on February 8, 2014, 8:30 GMT

    @vik561, it is a very good point you make. The question is what stance would you like them to take? As an English fan I think it's ridiculous they have sacked KP over minor indiscretions but can also understand the frustrations of the NZC about Ryder. It would be a shame about Ryder as he has been doing and saying all the right things in the last 5 months. It does appear however that he is never going to learn.

  • on February 8, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    Some people never grow. High time NZC takes a firm decision on Ryder.

  • on February 8, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    Plain disrespectful to the team and the guys who have backed. Anyone justifying they're activit because they weren't selected for the game is ridiculous. There have been instances where players have injured themselves on the morning of the game (McGrath in Edgebaston) and if such a scenario was to happen one of thes two would have played. Totally carless and disrespectful.

  • vik56in on February 8, 2014, 4:26 GMT

    Jesse at it again ! In contrast poor KP had his international career finished due to minor indiscretions. There is a huge difference in disciplining attitudes between NZ board and ECB.

  • kiwicricketnut on February 8, 2014, 0:59 GMT

    for a start seperate these two by not selecting bracewell, he has been average and doesn't deserve to be in the squad, everybody in nz cricket circles knows what a boof head bracewell is, especially with a few drinks in him. the whole world knows ryders troubles and having a guy like bracewell by his side is only gonna make it worse but jesse has to take ownership of his behaviour but it doesn't surprise me that he gets into trouble with bracewell every time, i want jesse in the test team but he has to take it seriously and cut this crap out, as for bracewell forget about him untill he shows some form that warrants selection and shows some dicipline off the pitch, there is a long line of players ahead of bracewell now, henry, neesham, milne i'd also have small ahead of him at the moment so he should be a long way away from disrupting this tight knit unit

  • Rahul_78 on February 7, 2014, 22:50 GMT

    Ryder should thank his lucky stars that he doesnt play for ECB or else he would have been facing Permanent leave. However disgraceful behaviour from a professional athlete non the less.

  • Sodit on February 7, 2014, 22:02 GMT

    NZ should never pick Jesse Ryder again. He will never learn form his mistakes. He has time and again let every team he has played for. Why do the selectors think he will change. Cricket will not miss him . Just like KP , he should be put to waste.

  • on February 7, 2014, 21:40 GMT

    Better to get rid of these 2, they obviously only think of themselves and have no commitment to the Black Caps becoming world class. If you want to see how to be mediocre look no further than these 2. Better to spend time and resources on players like Guptill,Henry and Latham than these losers. In Ryders case a sad waste of talent but he has to make the changes, he is an adult now he can not keep blaming his past. The same applys to Bracewell, he has to make changes and work out if hes man enough to be an international commited to doing his best for himself and commited to making NZ a consistent respected team. Send him away and give him 2 years to see if he really wants to do it, that way your sending a message to him and other players that to play for NZ requires you to be dedicated and want to improve not rest on your laurels,

  • Itachi_san on February 7, 2014, 20:56 GMT

    To all Jesse lovers who justify his behaviour, this is a match for his country. Stop loving him for letting us fans down, again and again. If he was remotely facing the actual scrutiny of an Indian, English, Oz player, he would understand how lucky he is to be playing here, where we accept him regardless of his faults. He is just a guy full of himself, and who expects everyone to love him, or he'll go cry, and stop playing cricket, boo hoo. Well I for one say, good riddance! Even KP never caused these kind of issues, and he is sacked.

  • Sodit on February 7, 2014, 20:19 GMT

    NZ should never pick Jesse Ryder again. He will never learn form his mistakes. He has time and again let every team he has played for. Why do the selectors think he will change. Cricket will not miss him . Just like KP , he should be put to waste.

  • on February 7, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    This should be the last straw for Bracewell - not only has he somehow managed to break his foot, he's acting as an enabler for Jesse. Jesse needs strong people around him when he has moments of weakness to say no to him, not to say yes.

    Besides - NZ has a group of young fast bowlers who are all very good - Matt Henry surely should be a better option than Bracewell.

  • gudolerhum on February 7, 2014, 19:26 GMT

    What is wrong with Jesse Ryder? So many people who have played cricket would love to have the opportunity and talent he has been given yet over and over he throws it away. Then he gets critically injured, recovers, gets back in the team and starts the same rubbish all over again. The time must soon be coming when we shall see the last of Ryder J. and the game will be the poorer for it as he is a breath of fresh air when he is on song. Jesse for heaven's sake get a grip and concentrate on the game.

  • Greatest_Game on February 7, 2014, 18:29 GMT

    Someone please tell me how this makes sense. In the story it states that "Both players were not part of the playing XI for the first Test and were released to play for their respective first-class teams in the Plunket Shield," yet Mike Sandle states that "Their behaviour is totally unacceptable the night before a match."

    Were they not released until the day of the test, as those seem to be pretty high expectations if they were not picked to play?

  • on February 7, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    its all about the pride of the country..this guys taking there country down by doing such activites..poor attitude

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  • on February 7, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    its all about the pride of the country..this guys taking there country down by doing such activites..poor attitude

  • Greatest_Game on February 7, 2014, 18:29 GMT

    Someone please tell me how this makes sense. In the story it states that "Both players were not part of the playing XI for the first Test and were released to play for their respective first-class teams in the Plunket Shield," yet Mike Sandle states that "Their behaviour is totally unacceptable the night before a match."

    Were they not released until the day of the test, as those seem to be pretty high expectations if they were not picked to play?

  • gudolerhum on February 7, 2014, 19:26 GMT

    What is wrong with Jesse Ryder? So many people who have played cricket would love to have the opportunity and talent he has been given yet over and over he throws it away. Then he gets critically injured, recovers, gets back in the team and starts the same rubbish all over again. The time must soon be coming when we shall see the last of Ryder J. and the game will be the poorer for it as he is a breath of fresh air when he is on song. Jesse for heaven's sake get a grip and concentrate on the game.

  • on February 7, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    This should be the last straw for Bracewell - not only has he somehow managed to break his foot, he's acting as an enabler for Jesse. Jesse needs strong people around him when he has moments of weakness to say no to him, not to say yes.

    Besides - NZ has a group of young fast bowlers who are all very good - Matt Henry surely should be a better option than Bracewell.

  • Sodit on February 7, 2014, 20:19 GMT

    NZ should never pick Jesse Ryder again. He will never learn form his mistakes. He has time and again let every team he has played for. Why do the selectors think he will change. Cricket will not miss him . Just like KP , he should be put to waste.

  • Itachi_san on February 7, 2014, 20:56 GMT

    To all Jesse lovers who justify his behaviour, this is a match for his country. Stop loving him for letting us fans down, again and again. If he was remotely facing the actual scrutiny of an Indian, English, Oz player, he would understand how lucky he is to be playing here, where we accept him regardless of his faults. He is just a guy full of himself, and who expects everyone to love him, or he'll go cry, and stop playing cricket, boo hoo. Well I for one say, good riddance! Even KP never caused these kind of issues, and he is sacked.

  • on February 7, 2014, 21:40 GMT

    Better to get rid of these 2, they obviously only think of themselves and have no commitment to the Black Caps becoming world class. If you want to see how to be mediocre look no further than these 2. Better to spend time and resources on players like Guptill,Henry and Latham than these losers. In Ryders case a sad waste of talent but he has to make the changes, he is an adult now he can not keep blaming his past. The same applys to Bracewell, he has to make changes and work out if hes man enough to be an international commited to doing his best for himself and commited to making NZ a consistent respected team. Send him away and give him 2 years to see if he really wants to do it, that way your sending a message to him and other players that to play for NZ requires you to be dedicated and want to improve not rest on your laurels,

  • Sodit on February 7, 2014, 22:02 GMT

    NZ should never pick Jesse Ryder again. He will never learn form his mistakes. He has time and again let every team he has played for. Why do the selectors think he will change. Cricket will not miss him . Just like KP , he should be put to waste.

  • Rahul_78 on February 7, 2014, 22:50 GMT

    Ryder should thank his lucky stars that he doesnt play for ECB or else he would have been facing Permanent leave. However disgraceful behaviour from a professional athlete non the less.

  • kiwicricketnut on February 8, 2014, 0:59 GMT

    for a start seperate these two by not selecting bracewell, he has been average and doesn't deserve to be in the squad, everybody in nz cricket circles knows what a boof head bracewell is, especially with a few drinks in him. the whole world knows ryders troubles and having a guy like bracewell by his side is only gonna make it worse but jesse has to take ownership of his behaviour but it doesn't surprise me that he gets into trouble with bracewell every time, i want jesse in the test team but he has to take it seriously and cut this crap out, as for bracewell forget about him untill he shows some form that warrants selection and shows some dicipline off the pitch, there is a long line of players ahead of bracewell now, henry, neesham, milne i'd also have small ahead of him at the moment so he should be a long way away from disrupting this tight knit unit