Pakistan v Australia 2012 August 29, 2012

Lower order not contributing - Misbah

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Misbah-ul-Haq has raised concerns over Pakistan's batting woes as the team lost its last six wickets for 38 runs during the first ODI against Australia in Sharjah. Pakistan played seven batsmen followed by allrounder Shahid Afridi at No. 8 but a late collapse during the second batting Powerplay dashed Pakistan's hopes of achieving 230 on a sluggish pitch.

"Our lower order is not contributing," Misbah said. "Had anyone scored 30-40 in the lower order we would have scored much more. We are losing matches because we are not scoring runs in the lower order and that is why we had Shahid [Afridi] and Kamran."

Kamran, who made a comeback to the side after more than a year, scored four off 14 balls while Afridi edged his first ball to the slips. Afridi has been in poor form in ODIs recently - 0, 9, 0, 17 and 0* being his last five scores.

"We have experienced players in the lower order," Misbah said. "The only need is to bat the full 50 overs, because if we score 230-240, our bowling is so good that we can defend that."

"We struggled in our batting against England and then in Sri Lanka, and that is why we played seven batsmen but we couldn't score much," Misbah said after the match. "We were sure about the target today but we lost the way. We committed mistakes, mistakes we have been repeating in the last two or three series but we can't win matches if we continue to do that."

Misbah conceded that Pakistan were 30 runs short of a competitive total. Fast bowler Mitchell Starc was the chief destroyer as he accounted for well-set batsmen Asad Shafiq and Umar Akmal and then the big wickets of Kamran Akmal and Afridi.

He also gave full credit to Australia's batsmen for the way they handled Pakistan's spinners. The spinners had given Pakistan the upper hand as they reduced Australia to 121-5 at one stage - Saeed Ajmal taking 3-30 and Mohammad Hafeez, 2-29. But George Bailey (57) and Glenn Maxwell (38) added an invaluable 63 for the sixth wicket to all but close the match.

"We tried everything, kept attacking fields, but credit must be given to them," Misbah said. "The way Bailey and Glenn Maxwell batted, it showed maturity although they were playing [their] third or fourth match."

Umar Farooq is ESPNcricinfo's Pakistan correspondent

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  • POSTED BY GTA_CricFan on | August 31, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Pakistani team is all words, but no action. I reckon reading an article not too long ago, where one of them said we don't look too much in the past. Well if you don't learn from your mistakes in the past, how are you going to improve your future games?

    Pakistan team has been disappointing it's fans one series after another.

    Misbah needs to exit the team himself or perhaps pushed out.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | August 31, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    Strange to see Pakistan's 20-20 squad avg. age hovering near 30's. It was Pakistan who always blooded young players in to international cricket out of nowhere and then they made their presence felt.

    I am waiting to see that happen again. May be some under 19 players are given a look into.

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 9:45 GMT

    I read some of the comments and it seems like Hafeez is a bowler not a batsman. Same with Afridi. All Pak need is two spinners one of them could be replaced by Ajmal easily. As far batsman are considered there is not a single batsman in Pakistan team period. All the batsmen should be replaced except Umar Akmal who sometimes scores.

    Bring back Imran Nazir and Abdur Razzaq. probably it would be slightly better.

    Best bowler and batsman r from U-19 must be given chance ahd should be groom for futuee, I really mean that, I guess Babar Azam performed well. Change Captain and coach right away. Ask Imran Khan to select team he has the keen eyes and no one else. Fire everyone from PCB. Get back Zulqurnain Hyder as wicket keepr bats man. Bring back the fast bowler from Jail and forgive his sins. Ask also Zaheer Abbas to find best batsman in Pakistan. This current Pakistani team do not pose threat to any team in the world.

  • POSTED BY NaMalik on | August 31, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    Attack at all point with. 1) Imran Nazir, 2) Nasir Jamshed 3) Umar Akmal 4) Kamran Akmal 5) Shahid Afridi 6) Abdul Razzaq 7) Mohammad Hafeez 8) Anwar Ali 9) Saed Ajmal 10) Mohammad Asif 11) Mohammad Aamir

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Misbhah is saying about lower order what he did himself in last three serires and also in his whole carrer no hundred yet in 104 games why he is blaiming there lower order yes i agree that lower order was collapsed but wat about his own performance ??and yes if you have a player like afridi use him as a batsman give him a chance in as opener they are miss use him from 16 years there is no particular position for him yet .my playing eleven is for 2nd ODI is nasir jamshed ,,Afridi Azhar ali,asad shafiq umarakmal.hafeez,misbah (only bcoz he is captain otherwise he has noplace in a Odi matches for sure)kamran akmal,ajmal junaid khan anwar ali

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    best team for pakistan will be nasir jamshed,kamran akhmal,umar akhmal asadshafiq or imran nazir,younis khan,misbah ul haq,shahid afridi,abdul razzaq,umar gul,saeed ajmal,sohail tanvir hope to see this team soon for t20 world cup

  • POSTED BY ghufranadnan on | August 30, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    I donnt kne y the dunnt make team according to pitch and game. Hafeez is not playing well as opener , if u want him to play as alllrounder put him lower down.Kamran akmal and nasir jamshed r good for opening. Azhar ali cannot play ODI.After 4 or 6 innings he score 50 or 70 runs, and even in that match pak dunnt win.so dunnt need azhar ali.shoab malik is better option. Instead of aziz cheema , anwar ali is a good option, he also bat well. As Dubai grounds favor spinners , so abdur rehman should be included in team instead of sohail tanvir.

  • POSTED BY ak_dragon on | August 30, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    Mr MISBAH...wat a JOKE...... Kindly re-Consider y Fitness level & Scores in last 10 GAMES... Thanks !

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    @Anil Agrahari: Interesting. Can you please tell us who will win the t20 worldcup, since you're predicting things, or is it just the fun of taking potshots at our team? And no thankyou, yes Indians are awesome at batting, but we never needed to aspire to great heights in batting, Alhamdulillah thanks to our bowlers. Inzy, Yousuf and co. are enough as rolemodels.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Really Mr. Captain? Let us see how much did the upper order contributed to blame lower order for not contributing. Hafeez-4, Nasir Jamshed-23, Azhar Ali-5. And just how much did you contribute captain? 26!

  • POSTED BY GTA_CricFan on | August 31, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Pakistani team is all words, but no action. I reckon reading an article not too long ago, where one of them said we don't look too much in the past. Well if you don't learn from your mistakes in the past, how are you going to improve your future games?

    Pakistan team has been disappointing it's fans one series after another.

    Misbah needs to exit the team himself or perhaps pushed out.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | August 31, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    Strange to see Pakistan's 20-20 squad avg. age hovering near 30's. It was Pakistan who always blooded young players in to international cricket out of nowhere and then they made their presence felt.

    I am waiting to see that happen again. May be some under 19 players are given a look into.

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 9:45 GMT

    I read some of the comments and it seems like Hafeez is a bowler not a batsman. Same with Afridi. All Pak need is two spinners one of them could be replaced by Ajmal easily. As far batsman are considered there is not a single batsman in Pakistan team period. All the batsmen should be replaced except Umar Akmal who sometimes scores.

    Bring back Imran Nazir and Abdur Razzaq. probably it would be slightly better.

    Best bowler and batsman r from U-19 must be given chance ahd should be groom for futuee, I really mean that, I guess Babar Azam performed well. Change Captain and coach right away. Ask Imran Khan to select team he has the keen eyes and no one else. Fire everyone from PCB. Get back Zulqurnain Hyder as wicket keepr bats man. Bring back the fast bowler from Jail and forgive his sins. Ask also Zaheer Abbas to find best batsman in Pakistan. This current Pakistani team do not pose threat to any team in the world.

  • POSTED BY NaMalik on | August 31, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    Attack at all point with. 1) Imran Nazir, 2) Nasir Jamshed 3) Umar Akmal 4) Kamran Akmal 5) Shahid Afridi 6) Abdul Razzaq 7) Mohammad Hafeez 8) Anwar Ali 9) Saed Ajmal 10) Mohammad Asif 11) Mohammad Aamir

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Misbhah is saying about lower order what he did himself in last three serires and also in his whole carrer no hundred yet in 104 games why he is blaiming there lower order yes i agree that lower order was collapsed but wat about his own performance ??and yes if you have a player like afridi use him as a batsman give him a chance in as opener they are miss use him from 16 years there is no particular position for him yet .my playing eleven is for 2nd ODI is nasir jamshed ,,Afridi Azhar ali,asad shafiq umarakmal.hafeez,misbah (only bcoz he is captain otherwise he has noplace in a Odi matches for sure)kamran akmal,ajmal junaid khan anwar ali

  • POSTED BY on | August 31, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    best team for pakistan will be nasir jamshed,kamran akhmal,umar akhmal asadshafiq or imran nazir,younis khan,misbah ul haq,shahid afridi,abdul razzaq,umar gul,saeed ajmal,sohail tanvir hope to see this team soon for t20 world cup

  • POSTED BY ghufranadnan on | August 30, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    I donnt kne y the dunnt make team according to pitch and game. Hafeez is not playing well as opener , if u want him to play as alllrounder put him lower down.Kamran akmal and nasir jamshed r good for opening. Azhar ali cannot play ODI.After 4 or 6 innings he score 50 or 70 runs, and even in that match pak dunnt win.so dunnt need azhar ali.shoab malik is better option. Instead of aziz cheema , anwar ali is a good option, he also bat well. As Dubai grounds favor spinners , so abdur rehman should be included in team instead of sohail tanvir.

  • POSTED BY ak_dragon on | August 30, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    Mr MISBAH...wat a JOKE...... Kindly re-Consider y Fitness level & Scores in last 10 GAMES... Thanks !

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    @Anil Agrahari: Interesting. Can you please tell us who will win the t20 worldcup, since you're predicting things, or is it just the fun of taking potshots at our team? And no thankyou, yes Indians are awesome at batting, but we never needed to aspire to great heights in batting, Alhamdulillah thanks to our bowlers. Inzy, Yousuf and co. are enough as rolemodels.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Really Mr. Captain? Let us see how much did the upper order contributed to blame lower order for not contributing. Hafeez-4, Nasir Jamshed-23, Azhar Ali-5. And just how much did you contribute captain? 26!

  • POSTED BY myaqoob on | August 30, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    MY Playing Eleven

    Imran Nazir Nasir Jamsheed Mohd Hafeez Abdul Razack Shahid Afridi Umer Akmal Azher Ali Asad Shafiq Anwer Ali Umer Gul Wahab Raiz

  • POSTED BY SwingReverse on | August 30, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    I agree with what KashifMuneer has mentioned below. Bring in Junaid, give Anwer Ali a chance and shuffle the batting order.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    It is the lack of knowledge about basics that is causing problem for Pakistan. They do not understand what is required when; perhaps they are too ill-equipped with well-thought applicative approach. So, they just misread the situation too often and lose wickets through stupid shots, pushes and prods. The worst among them is Kamran Akmal who refuses to learn. Misbah himself is probably now down the hill and should make way for a younger Captain. Hafeez is my choice. But, for Hafeez, there are so many things to know about; he is still a novice, in my opinion. But he is a good option. Sohail Tanvir should improve or leave. Afridi should forget about hitting every ball or go. Azhar should know he is gifting his wickets too often. Jamshaid should work on avoiding impetuous hitting. Aizaz should retire. Malik should become serious and come back for a couple of years. That is the way, otherwise we will be going down and down.

  • POSTED BY BowledYa on | August 30, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    Misbah is 100% right and those criticizing him here are not looking at the FACTS. Last 5 wickets lost for mere 20 some odd runs including those of the so called Boom Boom and Kamran. Afridi has scored 3 ducks in the last 5 at bats. He cannot be relied on and if he does not produce more runs in the next match we should drop him. He is not good enough to keep as a bowler alone. Rehman will produce better results than Afridi at # 8.

  • POSTED BY haq33 on | August 30, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    I am a huge fan of Misbah's batting. However, he talks such rubbish it completely outweighs his positives. The lower order is never to blame. Kamran should have opened. He is a GAMBLE in every sense of the word. Put Hafeez lower down. Even Afridi could open for the same reason. But to put them low down and expect them to do a calm RESCUE job is foolish, as that is not their style. The old fashioned 90's idea of bat slowly then smash and grab in the last 10-15 is now DEFUNCT thanks to new ball and powerplay pandemonium. Kamran and Afridi's roles have been made OBSOLETE as there is no such thing as a smash grab in the last 10-15 overs. So put them higher up where they have a chance of being effective. The only lower order batsmen needed are the cool heads like Misbah and possibly Asad. Also, it would not have made a difference who from Junaid or Tanvir or Cheema played - they are all as inconsistent as each other.

  • POSTED BY dmqi on | August 30, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    In a quarter of a century they have not found a good wicket keeper. In the same time period they have not found a good combination. Who brought Kamran and why? Why not Hamad azam/Razzaque? Hopelessly foolish selection. Afridi's wrting is on the wall too.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    Misbah is absolutely right. It is the lower batting order failure. Omer Akmal is temperamental and inconsistent although Rameez Raja thinks he is the most talented. He needs to score with an average of above 45. Afridi is becoming a liability other than his role of mentor in the field. Pakistan has a very bad record against Australia. They are a difficult opponents.

  • POSTED BY Joby_George on | August 30, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    Pakistan should open with Afridi. All the opposition fear him the most. If he last for 5 or 10 overs, the run rate will be above 8 for sure.

  • POSTED BY sam_screaming on | August 30, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    I think Misbah should get that lower order a bit up the order. Kamran can open with Nasir Jamshed and hafeez can come in at No.3, Asad shafiq at no.4, Umar akamal at 5 with misbah at 6. I think Pakistan can afford only one of MIsbah or Azhar ali. Even if they are playing Afridi as a bowler who can sometimes chip in with runs then they should consider bringing in Hammad Azam. That guy is very fit and looks talented. Hammad Azam also gives them a Medium pace option. I dont know much about the pakistan batting talent in the reserves but Kamran is more effective at the top

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | August 30, 2012, 11:29 GMT

    Posted by I.F.Butt on (August 29 2012, 18:05 PM GMT) : - I agree with you that Sohail Tanvir should not be considered as an international level players. Every time they select him, they say he can bat, but I have never seen him bat. I am of the firm opinion that players like S.Tanvir, Sami & Gul have been given far too many opportunities than what they ever deserved. Now it is time to move on. Regarding Kamran, i do not agree with you that he deserved to be selected on the basis of past performance. I think he has long passed his prime. Now Kamran is over the hill. If you remember the dropped catches he had in the Aiustralia series in 2010 and the way he refused to run out Shane Watson, it is all over the net. During the World Cup 2011, NZ match one of the chappel brothers commented that if Kamran's batting would be better than Bradman still he will not be able to compensate the losses that he causes with the Gloves. I AGREE THAT JUNAID SHOULD BE A FIXTURE.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    the problem with pak top order is that they don't know how take singles and rotate strike...they can either block or hit boundaries...but they don't try to find the gaps for simple...they must learn the art of batting from Indian batsman...

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | August 30, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    Posted by PAK_fuzzyeggs on (August 29 2012, 19:19 PM GMT) : - i agree with you. Actually i was replying some other comment in which i was largely agreeing about Kamran & Mallik , regarding the other players like Shehzad etc even i did not like their performance in the SLPL. I STAND CORRECTED TO THAT EXTENT.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    we all know the result of this series...if pak manage to win any match in this series then that will be a great achievement for them...

  • POSTED BY KashifMuneer on | August 30, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    I would make 2 changes for next match. Drop both Aizaz Cheema and Sohail Tanvir and bring in Junaid Khan who has had a very good run recently and is the best pacer on recent form. Also bring in Abdur Rehman as the 5th bowler. Use our strength which is spin bowling. With Hafeez opening the bowling, 1 seamer is enough. Also Kamran Akmal should open with Nasir Jamshed and Hafeez should drop down the order. Hafeez has been poor with the bat and needs to try something different in the short term. Kamran has been fantastic as an opener in domestic and SL premier league.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    the top order's failure could have been a good justification had Pakistan reached 230-240 and still lost.then one could have argued the fact that Pakistani top order's failure prevented the team from scoring 260-270 which could have been a winning total.those extra 20 runs needed to win could have come from anywhere including the top 3 but Pakistan at 160-4 with a batting powerplay to come and 2 batsmen well established at the crease was set for atleast 250 had the the last 6 wickets not fallen for just 38 runs.

  • POSTED BY gidmid on | August 30, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    Afridi has always been reluctant to bat up in the order.Clearly he needs to bat much higher to be properly utilized and not just be complacent with only his bowling role.These guys need come out of their comfort zone. As for asking Misbah to leave would be foolish.He is the only thing which slightly resembles to the notion of solidity in the fragile Pakistan batting line up.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    @RandyOZ: Thanks on Misbah's behalf. :D The man has loads of faults but loads of good too, and hardly anyone sees his merits, even his fans are often merely Afridi-haters. @Chris_P: Exactly! Poor team Pakistan lacks real supporters, which ought to be strange for a side that causes the most emotional upheavals among its fans.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    @Waqar Hasan: Exactly! Yes the top order failed and if Azhar is the man we know him as, he won't fail again inshaAllah, but at-least in this particular match, while they failed, their failure didn't CAUSE the defeat. Asad and Umer did well to OVERCOME the damage; they couldn't DRIVE HOME the advantage. That is when your top scorers and your in-form men are to blame. Prof was to blame for the Mohali loss BECAUSE he was inform. Right now he's the last man I tend to blame. People should just let Azhar be. He is the most promising find of the last two years, and I wish people would grow up and realize it. He will do a lot for Pakistan, we just have to wait and watch. As for the powerplay, our players have a definition problem. It is meant to convert good 1s and 2s into 4s, and create the occasional 6. They are there for the full exploitation of full tosses and half volleys, NOT for hitting 6es off Wasim/Waqar inswinging yorkers!

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | August 30, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    I think you guys are a little hard on your team. The teams are competing to the best of their abilities & are contributing to entertaining high quality matches. Evry player & team have highs & lows.

  • POSTED BY Ahtizaz on | August 30, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    misbha should learn captaincy from dhoni, he is wasting afridi at 8 n kamran at 7, he should probably send afridi up the order with kamran , and decrease one batsman with fast geniune pace bowler

  • POSTED BY richard-munir on | August 30, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    Hi, It's hard to teach the very basic techniques of batting to the mature players. Once someone hold bat in certain way or like certain shots, changing their technique is like uphill battle. The international level of batting is very boring type of game, it needs 100% technique and patience, to wait and access the situation. We are totally depending on the gifted batsmen; hardly Pakistan has produced the world class batsman who can win the match on their own. Every next game we are having world class bowlers but not batsman. The reason is simple street smart only can bowl better but for batting only technique smart can survive at the international stage. Let us learn more batting skills in our schools colleges and our local coaches should be very hard on players to teach them all the basics batting techniques, explain them the importance of it. Otherwise we always will win by luck or prayers!

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    This is hilarious stuff. Accusing lower order for not contributing, as if he & other top order guys are firing all cylinders in all the games. Its a Fact that Pakistan has never been a strong batting unit, but this current lot of batsmen looks the worst in a long long time. Its the Top orders' duty to put the runs on the board. Period.

  • POSTED BY agent001 on | August 30, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    Misbah needs to take the lead from Strauss, take the high road and call it quits from the ODIs. When the Bowling coach is younger than the Captain, it tells you that you are overstaying. Even G Smith of SA handed over the ODI captaincy and concentrates on scoring runs. There is a time for everything, may be he could extent his Test years by giving up the ODis or else the same fate as that happened to him on T20 is around the corner.

  • POSTED BY MSMAK on | August 30, 2012, 3:16 GMT

    This is too funny. Misbah making comments regarding not scoring enough. What is his strike rate. He should have a caffeinated drink and wake the heck up. As if himself has not been any frustration at all. PCB has established a norm long ago to keep repeating the same failures and failed schemes. Why is Misbah complaining? Enjoy UAE and then off to the next disappointment. Leave the worrying for Cricket fans.

  • POSTED BY RaadQ on | August 30, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    Pakistan need changes and fast! Hafeez should be moved down the order and replaced by Kamran. If Kamran fails, replace him with Azhar Ali. This way, we will have two spinners who can also bat (as they no longer can be considered batsman who can also spin). If they fail in both departments, quickly remove them and bring in pacing allrounders (Hammad Azam and Razzaq) so the batting is still deep. Furthermore, Junaid Khan should be our premium paceman, while Anwar Ali should be given a chance with the rest of the series before brining in the tried and tested products. Cheema is too old to even be given chances. If pace still fails, I believe Abdur Rehman should be given a chance!

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    Pakistan also lacked pace of Junaid Khan and second seamer should be either Aizaz Cheema or Sohail Tanveer for Pitches like Dubai, Abu Dhabi or Sharjah and Secondly Shoaib Malik should be in the Middle of Batting Line Up..

  • POSTED BY shaz101 on | August 29, 2012, 23:54 GMT

    agree with most comments here... batting is such burden to this team that they are failing again and again for past 40 years... bring a batting coach who can show them what to do... they keep hiring bowling coach when the bowling is fine for over15 years now...

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    what is the role of Misbah and Hafeez as a Batsman Hafeez celebrated around 4 ducks in Sri Lanka 4 here and he is thought of as the specialized opener and ofcourse is the skipper of the 20 20 side. Its a shame take out Misbah and Hafeez these two will make Pakistan rue many more games in the times to come...

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 22:40 GMT

    "Lower order not contributing" What?...As if the too order did!

  • POSTED BY Khans_word on | August 29, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    Unbelievably close game! Australia had to sweat it out til the 49th over to win. Sohail Tanvir gave the Aussies some pies on a plate bowling that they gobbled up! Azhar Ali was a suprise bowling revelation and judging by his 3 overs he had great control and should be giving a bigger allocation of overs in future games. I agree that the lower order batting is simply lame. There just doesn't seem to be any sense drilled into the lower order of playing out the 50 overs. The big batting error was that Kamran Akmal should have opened wth Nasir. Hafeez hasn't had good form opening. Hafeez is primarily in the team as an all-rounder and should be moved one down. N Jamshed looks like a Misbah clone, powerfully built and imposing. I can see him doing really well. Asad Shafiq lost the plot when he was on top of the Australian bowling. He should play his game and not try being a big hitter. His wicket led to a confused and nervous Kamran rushing his shots. Dav slap some strategic sense into them!

  • POSTED BY Naveed85 on | August 29, 2012, 21:24 GMT

    @misbah don't just blame lower order .its a complete batting failure. same situation in srilanka 3-1 loss mainly bcaz of batting collapses . apart form umar akmal others are more suited to test cricket .after beating England in tests comprehensively we lost odis 4-0 .shows similar pattern

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 20:28 GMT

    Misbah:.. if you say that lower order didn't contribute, then what upper order did?? and why team is relying on Afridi or lower order ? and Afridi is out of form, he wont click at number 8, send him in first 15 overs of power play, he may score something and will at least boast the run-rate.

  • POSTED BY shazada1 on | August 29, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    Pakistan had best opening stands when Kamran Akmal and Hafeez were openers always 70-80 before fall of first wicket after sometime.

    Since hafeez is in poor form he should be demoted to 3 or 4 and Kamran Akmal should open with Nasir Jamshed. Kamran naturally scores high runs as opener as he can really exploit bowlers in powerplay with his style of fast play and most men inside circle.

    Secondly Pakistan needs to play 3 fast bowlers at all times. I mean in this match they should have had Junaid Khan (Umar gul and wahab riaz which stupidly left out should have been there as well) Aizaz is decent test match bowler not one day material at all.

    No country plays only 2 fast bowlers in One day or test match except Pakistan which is pathetic and the bowlers they chose are medium pacers not fast at all.

    Misbah should have the decency to QUIT one day cricket and make way for a better batsmen who are awaiting like ASAD SHAFIQ as regular in team.

  • POSTED BY coolitbaby on | August 29, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    @Zahidsaltin Pakistani batsman scoring 100 against a good international team? You must be out of your mind. Try borrowing some batsmen from India Under 15 team. They will be better than your Misbah, Younis Khan, Hafeez etc. I guarantee you that.

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | August 29, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    I can't understand people asking for HAMMAD AZAM to be included. Just to give an example, yesterday in SL he bowled 3 overs for 33 and no wicket, and scored only 2. He is been tried many times but is a failed talent with mediocre bowling and no batting.

  • POSTED BY fuzzyeggs on | August 29, 2012, 19:19 GMT

    @sports4youth......ur comment is really intresting but not right..i agree wth u on malik and maybe kamran...but not on b grade players like umar amin a shazad and irfann...amin only performs in domestic lvl...shazad didint even got past 20 runs in his 5 or 6 inning in slpl also b grade cricketer who performs in domestic..agree on h azam he needs to get selected he is futre also agrre on junaid coming in....

    some players just perform in domestic they cnt perform in intl cricket such as k latif, shazaib hasaan, junaid zia, etc...not u but still i see pppl screaming why no k latif or s hasan in squad ppl wake up its cuz they cnt play intl crcket

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    This guy is out of his mind.... what about the top order... Hafeez is technically flawed player I would love to see him surviving even for couple of deliveries on SA, AUS or ENG pitches. Zero technique. If u could only score against average attacks like India, Sri lanka etc, then your average will always stay under 30.

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | August 29, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    MISBAH, When will you score a 100 and bat til the end with the lower order? OUR REAL PROBLEM is that we only have bit & pieces batsmen who can score 30s and 40s at best. Hafiz & Afridi, the allrounders are bowlers only who can score a few runs every 15th match. Sohail Tanveer is a joke when called allrounder. He can't survive an over if there is a decent bowler on work. Dear MISBAH, other teams have batsmen who score a 100 every 7-8 matches on average and we have batsmen who struggle to score a hundred whole of their playing life. And yet we won't let players like USMAN SALLAHUDIN and HARIS SOHAIL in the team..... The biggest burden on our batting are our allrounders who never score but can't be thrown out due to their bowling.

  • POSTED BY Imad_K on | August 29, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Seriously - this must be some kind of joke. A few matches where the Pakistani lower order hasn't produced runs and they blame the lower order. Like I have been saying for years now - the main problem with Pakistan is their batting: the majority of times their score is something like 20/30 for 3, then they rely on 2/3 batsmen to score runs and get them to a competitive target. What does the top order ever do apart from throw their wickets away - just watch when Pakistan play 20/30 for 3 - all the pressure on the middle order and then when their main batsmen can't score they expect the lower order to score runs - jokers. Build a good foundation even 70 for 1 or 2 off 20 overs instead of trying to get to 1000 runs off 20 overs and watch how the team get a good total.

  • POSTED BY AliK. on | August 29, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    It is the top order that failed; not the lower order. The top 6 specialist batsmen are the ones who are supposed to contribute to the score. Please do not mess up your bowlers by requiring them to score you winning runs. The lower order should only be expected to provide you bonus runs; not the winning runs. The top three cannot afford to be dismissed as softly as they did. For the 1st ODI, there is no excuse the way Hafeez, and Azhar got out.

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | August 29, 2012, 18:50 GMT

    Faired dincum. But tail runs should always be considered a bonus not as part of the plan. Pak if they can reach 240-270 they will certainly defend it. Some of the Aussies are now seeing why Eng struggled in UAE against this lad (becoming a very fine bowler). Note to Pak if you can post a score you only need 2 wickets Pup and Hussey the rest are woeful (at best).

  • POSTED BY warneneverchuck on | August 29, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    I still believe Pak wil win series with narrow margin

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Only thing Pakistan needs to improve is their game plan against the Australian bowlers. Their attack is pretty one dimensional as Starc, Pattinson and Johnson all bowl the same way; they pitch on a good/back of a length, using their height to get the bounce which has been Pakistan's weakness, without much of support from a spinner. If Pakistan gets a game plan on how to handle that line/length and disturb it so they start pitching it up, they can win the next two matches.

  • POSTED BY sohail1991 on | August 29, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    expecting runs from lower order is foolishness.. Afridi is now playing as bowler.if he scores run thats bonus. in last five innings Afridi scored less than Ajmal ..not even 25 runs in five innings. probem in top order .. and slow batting . after great saeed anwar.. pakistan top order struggled ..even younis was average in odis and slow strike rate

  • POSTED BY a133936 on | August 29, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    Misbahis totally wrong. The fact is that we have horrible upper order batting than the lower order batting. Here are Pakistan's batsmen at position 1-5 sorted by S/R.... http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax2=5;batting_positionmin2=1;batting_positionval2=batting_position;class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=team;orderby=batting_strike_rate;size=200;spanmin1=01+May+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

    Now if you look at the same list for positions 6-9 (lower order): http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax2=9;batting_positionmin2=6;batting_positionval2=batting_position;class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=team;orderby=batting_strike_rate;size=200;spanmin1=01+May+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting Pakistan's lower order is at #8 (as compared upper order which is at #13) by SR.

    The fcat is that Pakistan's upper order bats too slow for lower order to do anything.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    the main reason is that pak has no finisher who comes at number 7 and makes 40-45...why on earth,the BEST EVER FINISHER in pak odi history has been kicked out???yes guys you guessed right.its RAZZAQ..pakistan always got crucial late order runs because of his genius.so bring him asap.and offcourse his bowling still is equal to cheema.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 18:08 GMT

    Can any Pakistan fan comment on why Sadaf Hussain has never been selected in the squad in any format ? (leave alone playing X1)... Afiridi is a big game player, but he must not be sent in at no.8.

  • POSTED BY I.F.Butt on | August 29, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    @Sports4Youth, Players like Malik and Kamran have been selected on the basis of their experience and in history they have helped out Pakistan many times in crucial situations. You cannot grab a whole bunch of youngters and make a team full of young players. The idea is to make a balance with mixture of both, which Pakistan is not doing at the moment, lol. There are a lot of players we can get rid off, for example Sohail Tanvir who I don't even consider as an international level bowler with the amount of wides he bowles and aizaz cheema should certainly be dropped. Junaid Khan deserves to be a regular bowler and Anwar Ali deserves a chance, then we will have a decent pace attack to win.

  • POSTED BY arashrafiq on | August 29, 2012, 17:49 GMT

    No , you're not performing , top order is not performing , your heads are not performing , the gray matter in them is on a leave

  • POSTED BY dontlikecricket on | August 29, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    I am not sure why some people are so obssessive about Misbah's age. If I am correct Kallis is also nearly 37 years old, no one says him to quit as he is"too old". As long as Misbah is fit enough to play he should and funny enough he along with Younis are among the fittest players in Pak team!! I think Pak tean needs stabiltiy and consistency which as a captian Misbah provides. I am not sure if there is anyone else in current team who is good enough as a captian? With regards to youngsters in team, Pak team already has Asad, Umar Akmal, Azhar. I am not entirely sure that we need Kamran in team. On slow turning wickets most batsmen in team seem to be clueless. I am sure Kamran will be able to score on a batting friendy wickets, but then others will probably will too. I will prefer Razzaq in team instead of Afridi as he is a better batsman.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | August 29, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    Posted by SyedAbidHussain on (August 29 2012, 15:18 PM GMT) :- compleately agreed with you. I am surprised with the excuses & explanations given by Misbah. Someone should ask him what he has done ? He deoes not even get the field placement right. He never selects the correct ELEVAN. Why is Junaid not in the Eleven. Kamran should not have been in the team. Hammad Azam has done nothing wrong in the limited opportunitees he got. It is high time that you forget Gul, Sami, S.Tanvir etc and move on to Junaid, Sadaf Hussain, Rahat Ali, Mohd.Talha & build a new pace attack. Spinnners are doing a great job. Afridi should be the Captain of the ODI team. Misbah is not good in ODI's.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    Kamran Akmal shouldve opened and junaid khan shouldve been in. We need some agression and bite right from the start. Otherwise well played Umar , Asad , Saeed , Hafeez , and Afridi.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | August 29, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    On what basis players like Shoib Malik, Kamran Akmal get selected in the team again and again. Why players like Ahmed Shezad, Umar Amin, Mohammad Irfan, Hammad Azam are not given due chance? Mr. Chairman, it is high time to make some tough decisions. ALSO I WANT TO ADD THAT JUNAID SHOULD BE IN THE ELEVAN & NOT WARMING THE BENCH. WHAT MORE JUNAID HAS TO DO TO PROVE HIMSELF. SADAF HUSSAIN, RAHAT ALI & MOHD.TALHA ARE JUST BEING WASTED AND OLD FAILURES ARE ENJOYING THE TOP PLACE THROUGH ROTATION BETWEEN THEMSELVES. TODAY PAKISTAN HAS THE WORST PACE ATTACK IN THE WORLD. THE SPINNERS ARE BAILING THEM OUT REGULARLY. IT WAS THE SPINNERS AGAIN THAT MADE A FIGHT OUT OF THIS MATCH, OTHERWISE 199 WAS NOT CHALLENGING BY ANY STANDARDS OR BY ANY STREATCH OF IMAGINATION.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    Shame on Pakistan team, their performance whether they bat first or second.Just look into previous match Afghanistan vs Australia. Afghanistan had no pressure batting second. They were entertaining the spectators with some big shots hitting out of the stadium. Nothing is going to get improved with the batting order, let it be top, middle or lower order, unless and until you pull out underdog performers whose batting average still reads less than 25 even after playing over 100 matches. Claiming as Batsman, they just stick to squad by showing some average performance in bowling. Where are the young talents? Selector shouldn't act blind

  • POSTED BY bigdhonifan on | August 29, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    If Afridi isnt picking wickets remove him from team. because he wont bat at all... Better try someone else...

  • POSTED BY Omarrz on | August 29, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    Hafeez should come in at 4 down. Kamran should open the innings. And I think bring back Rehman or Shoaib in place of Cheema. Or we could remove Nasir and play both Rehman and Shoaib. No need for a second fast bowler.

  • POSTED BY Nadeem1976 on | August 29, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    Misbah jee what about your own batting and your voice captain batting form. Misbah you should retire from ODI cricket to give chance to new players because you are too old now. Instead of admitting your own mistakes you are blaming lower order that's really sad. Ask your upper order to score good runs and start converting 50's into 100. sad very sad Misbah that you have no brain.

  • POSTED BY H-Shakil on | August 29, 2012, 15:36 GMT

    Lol @ Misbah's comment on lower order not contributing. In last few years now at an average Pakistan has a 40 for loss of 3 or 4 wickets. Runs mostly have follow from bats of lower order in recent past. SHOCKED AT SUCH A FOOLISH COMMENT!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    and how about a solid start? why is misbah silent over the repeatedly disappointing performance by openers especially hafeez? attacking fields? with field set wide enough for singles, a small score cannot be defended. playing mediocre bowlers like tanvir and cheema? and then ajmal was delayed for too much, he was brought it when there was almost nothing to defend! i guess misbah doesnt even know the meaning of word "attack"

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    This reminds me of Sarfraz Ahmed's innings in the Asia Cup final. He pulled Pakistan through the 50 overs and those runs mattered. His keeping has unbelievably been poor. He was exceptionally good.

    We need to rethink who bats in the lower order. And Afridi needs to work on not getting out in the first 10 balls, after which he seems to really bat well.

  • POSTED BY SyedAbidHussain on | August 29, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    I think Misbah needs to have a reality check. He needs to review his own performances first. Afridi is batting at no.8 and he cannot be expected to revive Pak's failed everytime. His bowling is enough to keep him in the team, 10 overs, 37 for 1. What more can he do. Why does Misbah not blame the hopeless pacers who always nullify the hard work done by the spinners. These 3 spinners atleast keep you in game not matter what the batsmen score, but the top-order and pacers are just spectators. Pacers need to give a good start. Dump these pacers and get some quality.

  • POSTED BY arunmp3 on | August 29, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    pak's batting esp shafiq was going on well till their power play collapse! afridi is not reliable, so bring in razaaq in the side for lower order fire works ! try afridi to open with hafeez......

    btw paks tall claims of fast bowling talent seems to be a illussionand hype these days tanvir bowled in mid 120's, every side needs one who bowls 145+, to me man with tht capability is umar gul he shud be in the side else junaid khan sohail tanvir looks silly fr a international side.............

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | August 29, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    But Mr. Misbah what about the top order. 3-40 is not enough runs.

  • POSTED BY torsha on | August 29, 2012, 14:32 GMT

    Misbah is right. He is indirectly pointing towards Afridi. Now how many chances would you give him? Just look at the last several matches he has played and runs he has scored. I'm sure there are many other good players are waiting. Don't be hesitate to drop him off.

  • POSTED BY 14.08.1947 on | August 29, 2012, 13:46 GMT

    I dont know why Misbah-ul-Haq is complaining about the duty of the lower order. The Vice-Captain, Mr. Hafeez, is playing for the last half one year very bad and he is hurting Pakistan as a Batsman (in ODI & T'20). He can not hold the pressure as a captain or vice! Misbah as a captain have to take the responsibility, because he needs to start as a Top Order Batsman. Then he can give us stability. I always hear, that Paksitan is looking for a new start with a young fresh blood Team... So is the definition of that, to bring Kamran Akmal,Shoaib Malik,Imran Farhat,AIZAZ CHEEMA, SAMI, Sohail Tanveer back in the TEAM????????Obviously we need experienced players, just who has a good charackter like Younis/Misbah/Afridi. But a Person like Kamran Akmal will always the REPUTATION of Pakistan. We should give our youngsters a chance. Players like Anwar Ali, Ehsan Adeel, Babar Azam, Zia ul Haq, Mohammad Nawaz, Sadaf Hussain, Hamad Azam etc. deserves a chance.

  • POSTED BY The-love on | August 29, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    I don't think run rate was the problem in this match....pitch was not favorable for batting,aussies also struggled but they just managed to cross the line. If we just focus on doing basics right,it is enough.Had pakistan batted for 50 overs,it would be cakewalk for them.

  • POSTED BY adeelicap on | August 29, 2012, 13:35 GMT

    dear Misbah it was senior batsmen who contribute in defeat, specialy afridi, show him some time towards bench/ side line and he will understand perfectly, the reasons of his continous failure is his continous chances in team, and what u did in match, you are completely batsman, but why u are not able to grip on innings even after wasting lot of balls. its easy to comment.

  • POSTED BY The-love on | August 29, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    @RandyOZ :- Yes man....clarke is the best captain.... And I am the president of America....

  • POSTED BY TheRealRockNRolla on | August 29, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    It is high time to let go Misbah ul Haq (for good) from all forms of Pakistan Cricket

  • POSTED BY xylofon on | August 29, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Same old problems as so many times before. Still no solution. Simply changing captains or coaches will not help. When Umar Akmal or even Afridi do not score well, why are they given the chance to play in the next match? This is the coach´s responsibility to take care of. Bottomline is:

    If you dont perform your chance and place goes to someone else who has the hunger & motivation. If this rule applies in all other contexts how come it doesnt apply to people like Umar irresponsible shot-Akmal?

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Pakiistan needs to learn how to play aerial shot and more aggresive batting

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    Misbah...Pakistan has lost more matches due to you rather than the lower order. You are there to bat, just take the responsibility like Md Yousuf. You shld know how to milk bowling as you are into the middle order and also help the lower order to contribute those 20's and 30's. Just commenting will not help.

  • POSTED BY MunafAhmed811 on | August 29, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    Shahid Afridi has played some 320 odd ODI where has had chance to bat. Out of this in a total of 280 matches he has score below 25. Thats under performing 80% of time. Umar Akmal has been compared to Kohli who today is considered on of the best ODI bats today. Kamran Akmal played 1-2 odd great innings last decade and still is in team. Misbah MBA mind has given Pakistan good test wins but it seems groupings have not given him support in ODI

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | August 29, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    I like Misbah. I think he's the second best captain, behind Clarke of course.

  • POSTED BY Syed_imran_abbas on | August 29, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    Kamran shoud be openning.. and hafeez is no more effective in batting. Afridi should realise worth of playing national side. he is taking it forgranted. Replace azhar with shaoib malik. and cheema with junaid khan. My odi side would be.. (1) Nasir Jamshed (2) Kamran Akmal (3) Hafeez (4) Asad Shafiq (4) Umar Akmal (5) Misbah (6) Shaoib Malik (7) Afridi (8) Rahman (9) tanvir (10) anwar ali/junaid khan (11) ajmal

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    PAKISTAN HAS LOST MATCH BECAUSE OF THEIR BAD SHOT SELECTION..NOTHING ELSE. we have chances of wining the next match..if we our batsmen score runs...shahid afridi is a great player if misbah allows afridi to open the batting with haffez...because afridi comes into crease when pakistan is in trouble..afridi is a hitter like david warner...first 10 over only 2 filders out afridi can risks and hit in the gaps and ones he goes on we have chances of scoring huge totals...then our spiners ''the best spining attack in the world''.australia players are scared of pakistani spinner n u can see our spinner bowled 30 overs given 83 runs n took 6 wickets.so australia is thinking how play our spinner because our spiners has gr8 line n length when they bowl...Junaid khan sould bowl in the next match with shoail tanvir.I WISH PAKISTAN BEST OF LUCK 4 THE NXT MATCH...ALL PAKISTANI WILL BE PRAYING 4 THEM TO PERFROM WELL IN TH NXT MATCH...INSHALLAH PAKISTAN WILL WIN THE NXT MATCH..

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    Idiot. The top order batsmen did not perform. They are the ones there for batting. What a poor sense of judgement. Now he expects the bowlers to do all the work. And what the hell does he see in Cheema? How is he better than Abdul Rehman, or even Junaid?

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Dear Misbah, Your comments are true, but top order performed poorly as well. Bring Kamran Akmal to open, send Hafeez down to 6, ask afridi to come one down and add one fast bowler in place of Azhar. And plz plz... See some tape ball match in Lahore so you could know how to get runs in power plays

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:25 GMT

    Pakistan recovered well from the damage caused by pattinson and staarc to get to 160-4 in 35 overs with a run rate of 4.6.so where Pakistani top order obviously has to start contributing,losing 3 wickets for 40 wasnt the reason why we were limited to a meagre 199.Pakistani batsmen more often than not experience a brain explosion during the batting powerplay.those 2 wickets in the 5 overs of fielding restrictions cost Pakistan 50 runs.they could have easily been 190-4 with 10 overs left.and when you have depth in your batting,there's every likelihood of playing 10 overs.batting powerplay is supposed to convert bad balls into boundaries.and one has to be patient.australia's strength with the ball lies with staarc and pattinson.the bowling attack otherwise is pretty innocuous.so Pakistan in the 2nd odi has to come up with a different strategy for the first 10 overs.as for the batting powerplay,clarke will bring his best 2 bowlers in so the batsmen have to patiently wait for loose balls.

  • POSTED BY haroon_180 on | August 29, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    THE LOWER ORDER IS NOT CONTRIBUTING????? Really. What about the openers, the one down, the no.3 and no. 5??? Seriously if that is where you see the problem you should quite the captaincy

  • POSTED BY Noball_Specialist on | August 29, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    Some of the blame is due to the top order too. They consistently fail and leave the lower order too much to do. It is fine that some Pakistani bowlers can smack a few boundaries but not in pressure situations. In such situations, they capitulate. Much like Osama Shamim said, there needs to be a some control in the batting. They trust themselves too much and don't appreciate the situation. The strategy seems to be a 'let's have a go and see what happens' strategy rather than pacing the innings - targeting scores at intervals, targeting bowlers etc. This is where an experienced hand would have been vital. Misbah should perhaps take more responsibility and lead from the front - elevate himself up the batting order to protect the newer guys from the new ball. Misbah himself is a choker on par with the rest. Afridi isn't a batsman anymore this should not come as a suprise. He;s a good bowler and good fielder and adds energy to the team. This is more than what Misbah provides.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 12:00 GMT

    Misbah is just freak what about top order? apart from Shafeeq top 4 were miserable.. he forget wht kind of shot he did play huh why he is made Captain i dnt knw...

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    Basically there are lots of weaknesses in this TEAM PAKISTAN but for the time being you have to stick to these players and consider major changes after T20 World Cup. For the second ODI I would only make one change, instead of Cheema I would play Junaid Khan but change the batting order. My XI and batting order would be as follows: 1. Nasir Jamshed, 2. Azhar Ali, 3. Asad Shafiq, 4. Umar Akmal, 5. Misbah, 6. Hafeez, 7. Kamran, 8. Afridi, 9. Tanvir, 10. Ajmal, 11. Junaid. There is no point in opening with Hafeez as he will nine out of ten times fail against good quality bowling, he can only score runs as an opener against minnows or weak bowling attack.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    send afridi r kamran as opener n everyone will perform well. as for this year hafeez is a bowler only so low order will suit him as well

  • POSTED BY agent001 on | August 29, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    Blaming the lower order is a cheap shot from a man whose SR is in the low 50s. It is time show Afridi the door just like Gul and Younis. UAE wickets are known for spin and why was Rehman left out ? Time to "rest" the two medium pacers in favor of Junaid Khan and Anwar Ali.

  • POSTED BY azeesajid on | August 29, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    What would happen if pakistan play with all eleven batsman in their side!! i think result would be the same...becoz if 9 batsman can't cross total of 200 then inclusion of two other will not help them. & i totally think u akmal was responsible for whole thing, he was set n was suppose to play 50 overs which would have added 30,40 odd runs to the total. but still very vell bowled by spinners.

  • POSTED BY TruthBites on | August 29, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    Misbah's comment make no sense. The team needs to click as a batting unit. Everyone has to perform his job role. I doubt players are clearly defined their role and that is why they are confused and not scoring runs. Hope I'm wrong. There must be responsibility and accountability.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    It sounds a team rift rather than the exact reason. Top 5 batsmen are suppose to score 50-100 runs. If they cannot achieve that how come the lower order will deliver. Atleast these top 5 batsmen should play 40 overs. Having said that I am not a fan of Afridi's batting which has declined mainly by his attitude to apply himself and there is no match winning innings in recent memory after his 50s in T20 worldcup finals.

  • POSTED BY Riz000 on | August 29, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Lol Misbah seems to just love HAFEEZ so much that he forgot to add his name to the chart once again i would like to say HAFFEZZ is the worst worst opener for pakistan ever plz chuck hafeez out permentleyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • POSTED BY WildAmigo on | August 29, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    Sorry Misbah.. I disagree on this with u.. Your top order is not batting well for quite a while specially Muhammad Hafeez.. Scoring most of the runs are top order batmen duty not the lower order.. Don't know why is this spineless fast bowlers are selected (Cheema esp) also don't know why keep selecting Malik, Farhat and Cheema again and again.. Why Talha and Ahmed Shehzad is not in the team.

  • POSTED BY Karnain on | August 29, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    Why don't they use Kamran Akmal as an opener? He has proved his abilities as an opener in the SLPL.

  • POSTED BY Hassan_U on | August 29, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    Thank you Misbah for sayying the truth by naming Afridi and Kamran.....you just forgot to say Hafeez too. He is in the team to score runs rather then hide behind his bowling numbers. Its true since England series the batmen has mental probelm to score runs. Bring back Abdul Razzaq who loves these sort of situations. Next game you must bring back Anwar Ali or Junaid Khan and batters you put you hand up and count to deliver !!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:03 GMT

    Our team needs a good and reliable fast bowler and some stability in batting... if we had one good fast bowler like we had Akhtar, who can demolish the opponents alongside the best spinners of the world... !

  • POSTED BY sifter132 on | August 29, 2012, 11:02 GMT

    Well Misbah my friend, it's a fair point...but had anyone in the TOP order scored another 30-40 runs you would have been ever better off! Blaming the lower order when you were 4/99 seems stupid.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    Really? what about the top order? that's not working out either. Give a little more responsibility to the likes of Umar Akmal and Asad Shafiq, send Umar one down! We lack controlled aggression in our batting, its either wacking every ball senselessly or becoming excruciatingly defensive. We need a better batting strategy, using the resources you have in a more efficient way.

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  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    Really? what about the top order? that's not working out either. Give a little more responsibility to the likes of Umar Akmal and Asad Shafiq, send Umar one down! We lack controlled aggression in our batting, its either wacking every ball senselessly or becoming excruciatingly defensive. We need a better batting strategy, using the resources you have in a more efficient way.

  • POSTED BY sifter132 on | August 29, 2012, 11:02 GMT

    Well Misbah my friend, it's a fair point...but had anyone in the TOP order scored another 30-40 runs you would have been ever better off! Blaming the lower order when you were 4/99 seems stupid.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:03 GMT

    Our team needs a good and reliable fast bowler and some stability in batting... if we had one good fast bowler like we had Akhtar, who can demolish the opponents alongside the best spinners of the world... !

  • POSTED BY Hassan_U on | August 29, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    Thank you Misbah for sayying the truth by naming Afridi and Kamran.....you just forgot to say Hafeez too. He is in the team to score runs rather then hide behind his bowling numbers. Its true since England series the batmen has mental probelm to score runs. Bring back Abdul Razzaq who loves these sort of situations. Next game you must bring back Anwar Ali or Junaid Khan and batters you put you hand up and count to deliver !!!

  • POSTED BY Karnain on | August 29, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    Why don't they use Kamran Akmal as an opener? He has proved his abilities as an opener in the SLPL.

  • POSTED BY WildAmigo on | August 29, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    Sorry Misbah.. I disagree on this with u.. Your top order is not batting well for quite a while specially Muhammad Hafeez.. Scoring most of the runs are top order batmen duty not the lower order.. Don't know why is this spineless fast bowlers are selected (Cheema esp) also don't know why keep selecting Malik, Farhat and Cheema again and again.. Why Talha and Ahmed Shehzad is not in the team.

  • POSTED BY Riz000 on | August 29, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Lol Misbah seems to just love HAFEEZ so much that he forgot to add his name to the chart once again i would like to say HAFFEZZ is the worst worst opener for pakistan ever plz chuck hafeez out permentleyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    It sounds a team rift rather than the exact reason. Top 5 batsmen are suppose to score 50-100 runs. If they cannot achieve that how come the lower order will deliver. Atleast these top 5 batsmen should play 40 overs. Having said that I am not a fan of Afridi's batting which has declined mainly by his attitude to apply himself and there is no match winning innings in recent memory after his 50s in T20 worldcup finals.

  • POSTED BY TruthBites on | August 29, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    Misbah's comment make no sense. The team needs to click as a batting unit. Everyone has to perform his job role. I doubt players are clearly defined their role and that is why they are confused and not scoring runs. Hope I'm wrong. There must be responsibility and accountability.

  • POSTED BY azeesajid on | August 29, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    What would happen if pakistan play with all eleven batsman in their side!! i think result would be the same...becoz if 9 batsman can't cross total of 200 then inclusion of two other will not help them. & i totally think u akmal was responsible for whole thing, he was set n was suppose to play 50 overs which would have added 30,40 odd runs to the total. but still very vell bowled by spinners.