Pakistan v Australia, 2nd ODI, Abu Dhabi

Need to read game well - Whatmore

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August 30, 2012

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Asad Shafiq is bowled for 56, Pakistan v Australia, 1st ODI, Sharjah, August 28, 2012
Asad Shafiq's wicket triggered a collapse from which Pakistan, inspite of their spinners, couldn't recover © AFP

Although Pakistan spinners gained a stranglehold on the Australian batsmen to make their chase of 199 difficult on a slow wicket in Sharjah, coach Dav Whatmore stressed on his team's need to "read the game well" to gain positions of advantage in matches, ahead of the second ODI in Abu Dhabi.

Pakistan lost their last six wickets for 38 runs to capitulate for 198, which proved costly as the low target allowed Australia to cut out the risks as they pushed for a win.

"Reading the game is very important. If the players can read the game well, they are in a better position to respond. It is not just about losing wickets. It is also about why, how and what you do next. We have some wonderful young players and they have to change their thinking sooner rather than later," Whatmore said.

Saeed Ajmal took three wickets and Mohammad Hafeez two as all six wickets fell to spinners, who together maintained an economy rate of 3.20. Whatmore praised them for putting Australia under pressure early.

"Our spinners did well against Australia. Their economy rate was very good. We bowled like I expected them to. But credit has to be given to Australia for the way they countered our spinners. But if they had a few more runs to chase, it would have been a different kettle of fish.

"I'm disappointed that we could not win the first game. We made a couple of errors."

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Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

there is no doubt Afridi commands his place with his bowling alone... Would be nice if he worked on the consistency of his batting, but I guess it's a bit late for that...Great, game-changing player... He will be remembered long after any of the other players in this Pakistan team.. Who else thinks his charisma really affects opposing batsmen? :P

Posted by Sports4Youth on (August 31, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

Posted by nck483 on (August 31 2012, 09:59 AM GMT) : - I agree with you about S.Mallik, I.Nazir & Kamran. But regarding Afridi i completely disagree. Afridi is a speciallist bowler, Most successfull in the World Cup 2011. He had a great 2011 with the ball. He is in great company in the all time highest wicket takers in ODI. Please look at the records. He is a match winner, a match turner single handedly.

Posted by Sports4Youth on (August 31, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

Posted by nck483 on (August 31 2012, 09:59 AM GMT) :- Regarding S.Mallik I agree, You are RIGHT. But regarding afridi I think you are completely wrong. Afridi bowled well in the first match, he is the best fielder in the Pak team. His batting has always been like this, if he clicks he will demolish everyone. Doesn't he command a place in the team on the streanght of his bowling alone ? Behind Akram & Waqar his is Pak's highest wicket taker in ODI's. What is your problem with Afridi ?

Posted by Sports4Youth on (August 31, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

I hope Junaid & Anwar Ali replace Tanvir & Cheema, but trusting Misbah's lack of vision and guts, I dobt if he will do it. Even trying one more spinner or a spinning all-rounder in place of a pacer will not be a very bad idea. BUT JUNAID IS A MUST. In the 1st ODI Misbah shocked everyone by not playing Junaid.

Posted by MunafAhmed811 on (August 31, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

@WickyRoy.paklover : Yes our bowlers could not defend 290+ score against BD in Asia cup. But boy am I glad we defended 250 score in Worldcup Semifinal against Pakistan. Ouch. Anyway in the same Asia cup some team with so called superior bowlers failed to defend 320. Cant remember which country it was. Since your Asia cup memory is so strong , would you care to post the name of that country?

Posted by atuljain1969 on (August 31, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

There was a time when Pakistan had flamboyant players like - Imran, Wasim , Waqar, Salim Yusuf, Abdul Qadir, Ejaj Ahmed, Inzamam, Mohsin, Moin, Saeed Anwar among these any of them on their day could take the team to victory. At present I can only think of Afridi, Umar, Kamran in that category.

Do we have more of these type of players in the Pakistan domestic cricket?

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

@Hyderabadiplayer : Why do I get the feeling that if we win 2-1 you will say |"Pakistan have beaten a weak Aus team in what is equivalent to their own backyard, heat notwithstanding, since Pakistanis are made of some ultra-heat-sensitive composite material?

Posted by nck483 on (August 31, 2012, 9:59 GMT)

First of all... what afridi and Malik is doing in the team. Not useful at all. They them self confused what they are capable and what can they do? Imran Nazir is the man they ignored. Always behind kamran brothers.?? is that going forward wil it be only kamran keepers?

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 9:48 GMT)

For god sake plz misbah retaire , are the captin of the side and played aproximately 100 odi matched and did not scored a single when you will do 1st match you have a lot of overs to stay their and score a hunderd as a only senior batsman and being the caption of the team....but you are not capable to scoring a century in a 50 over game .....just get misbah out anb get malik in and get junaid for aizaz cheema. all other things are fine. Hafeed should be droped down and should only play as a bowller.My 11 Nasir-kamran-azhar ali- umar akmal- asad -malik-afridi-hafeeez-tanvir-junaid and ajmal......and on a fast track you can play razzaq or hammad for malik or hafeez.

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (August 31, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

@Atuljain1969,he would be there 4 t20s in dis series as for wcp

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

Complete White wash ODI 3-0 Austrlia, T20 3-0 Austrlia

Posted by Zaid_sl on (August 31, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

for God's sake open with nasir n azhar.nasir has the ability to penetrate the gap while azhar is an accumulator and someone who values his wicket.hafeez is never a good batsmen against good quality bowling.he may be good enough to come between akmal and mishandling.bring in anvar/junaid for cheema

Posted by atuljain1969 on (August 31, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

Don't know whether Imran Nazir is still eligible to play for Pakistan, If yes, then why he is not there in the Team. Any answers

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

Umar Akmal didnt read the game well at all. After the fall of his brother and Afridi Umar should have assessed the situation and instead of trying to play extravagant shot he should have tried to simply play out the full 50 overs. Another 20 runs and the game would have been in the bag.

Posted by WildAmigo on (August 31, 2012, 7:53 GMT)

In ODIs the defensive mindset of Misbah is not working well.. it can only worked well for him in tests becoz there is time in Tests, Hafeez is not doing any good as opener.. With this kind of so called fast bowlers you can't win matches.. Need to find pacers who can breakthrough atleast 2 wkts at the top.. We are unable to do that now consistently.. Misbah and Hafeez should quit ODIs let bring Hammad Azam and Umar Ameen in the team.. As you can see Left Hand Batsman in Middle of the team is good tactical move it changes the line of the bowlers.. Aus consistently have done that in past so as other teams as well.

Posted by k.raza110 on (August 31, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

Pakistan should go with abdur rehman to attack aussies, Kamran Akmal should open the innings,


Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (August 31, 2012, 7:35 GMT)

@Hydradiplayer,ur bowlrs can't even dfnd a 290 pls target against minows(do u remembr asia cup?) LOLZ.

Posted by ihaq1 on (August 31, 2012, 7:34 GMT)

i think pakistan must make changes in abu dhabi...first bring in two new fast tanvir in place of afridi who seemed a lot fatter than usual in with shoaib malik and azhar...and drop nasir jamshed...or open with jamshed and azhar and bring in shoaib for hafeez...just wickets from hafeez are not good enough as teh last match showed...he just does not gel with nasir jamshed...hafeez should be told that it is not either or but both openers who have to bat well...the captaincy i think depends on selections and tactics...i think an opening attack should consist of fast bowlers and teh aussies should think of dropping warner...when u open with a spinner and fast bowler yoyr fast bowlers are just not good enough...probably teh new coaches tactic might be too aggressive for teh slower paced pakistanis...i suppose umar akmal and to some some extent nasir jamshed are teh only aggressive batsmen or kamran akmal when he opens...try a longer batting lineup

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

Misbah should be retired from captaincy, his defensive approach has let down the people. Captain should be bold and attacking. Openers should be attacking that they can score 50-60 in 10 overs at least.

Posted by Ubaidaleem on (August 31, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

I thought Umar Gul was given rest but he is playing SLPL. What sort of strategy is this and how can you attack with Cheema and Sohail Tanveer. The pitch was equally helpful for pace bowling as Starc and Pattinson showed every one. Secondly, we have 4 accumulators, Azhar, Asad, Misbah and Hafeez. and that creates pressure on the lower order to score quickly Dav should address this as well.

Posted by Asif_Iqbal on (August 31, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

Must go with 3 Faster Man

Posted by IndvsEngseries on (August 31, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

Pak can win only against minnows, not against top teams. Aus will whitewash Pak 3-0. Best of luck Australia.....

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 2:58 GMT)

Just replace Azher Ali with Shoaib Malik, you will have an extra spinner/batsman, bowling attack will be little flexible, in the last match there were only 5 bowlers & they had to bowl of their full quota, & replace Cheema with Junaid. I think the balance of the team is quite ok now. The collapse of lower order in last match: dont worry, this lower order had won several matches for us, go ahead & win the match for us, just keep your heads cool in the bating power play. These last two matches are ours.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 2:30 GMT)

pace dept. needs to be reshuffled. I HAVE NO IDEA, why Junaid Khan isnt at least in the squad!! I know he is a rythm bowler, but wahab riaz needs to be brought back, he has potential, and geniune pace. pace bench strength should be: Gul,Wahab,Junaid,Tanvir. Sohail tanvir epitomises the careless attitude of Pakistani batting.This guy is a geniune all rounder at the domestic level, but in ODI he has always thrown his wicket away.

Posted by   on (August 31, 2012, 1:12 GMT)

Dav Whatmore needs to set the goal and decide the strategy and the tactics to achieve the goal quietly by internal discussion. Why does he not understand this simple principle? The goal for the top order is to score 200 run within 40 overs. Lower order can do the rest. Each play should be given a goal and later the players performance should be judged. Simple is that. It is not a rocket science. There are ways to add point to performance by some different sets of achieving smart goals. Can this be implemented within the team, Mr. Sir.

Posted by Indianpunjabi on (August 31, 2012, 0:32 GMT)

Well Australia Will Clean Sweeep Pakistan Easily Because Pakistans Batting and Scotlands Batting is Similar

Posted by SaadS123 on (August 31, 2012, 0:25 GMT)

Ohh regarding the requests for Shoaib Malik, please people, just think it through, Shoaib is a nice guy and decent player and has always been I can give him that, but thats exactly what he is decent/average. Average bowler, average batsman. He has never shown true flare that we're use to from players in any form. Great, domestic cricket he's the king, but in internationals its always a case of "ok shoaib, you've got one more chance, please do something, show us something", he plays averagely, scores a 20-30 in the middle order and probably bowls 2 overs and thats it. I'm not a Shoaib hater, its just a case of other players show the potential to do greatness, they might not achieve it, but at least they show that they possibly could do it and Shoaib just doesn't time and time again.

Posted by SaadS123 on (August 31, 2012, 0:15 GMT)

Re. sirvivfan.. Hats off to you, good post. Alas combine the talent with a little more intellegence and Pakistani's can have the potential to be sublime. We have them from time to time dont get me wrong, but just a handfull. With a little more intellegence we wouldn't have lost Amir and co. The current team on the other hand has a reputation for misreading the situation and being carelessly shortsited. The Akmals and Afridi are prime examples sad to say. Gosh I just really wish I could see an Afridi on song century live, so I could tell my kids in the future, but the guy spends most of the mental focus worrying about what next storm he's going to pull infront of the media and threatening retirement rather then focussing on his craft.

Posted by mashooo on (August 30, 2012, 23:30 GMT)

all we have to replace both pacers with junaid nd anwer nd send kamran for openeing in place of hafeez

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 22:33 GMT)

Why doesn't Pakistan play an all spin attack? The fast bowlers are a waste of space.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 22:19 GMT)

this board need to hire me as a Mentor... who can sort out all the problems.. such a good team is looking meaningless and winless.. ODI's: 1>Azhar 2>Jamshed 3>Asad 4>Umar 5>Misbah 6>Kamran 7> Hafeez 8> Afridi 9> Ajmal 10> Tanvir/Rehman/Anwar 11> Junaid

T20's: 1> Nazir 2> Jamshed 3> Kamran 4> Umar 5> Afridi 6>Shoaib 7>Hafeez 8> Razzaq/Arafat 9> Ajmal 10> Gul 11> Tanvir/Sami..

Posted by crktcrzy on (August 30, 2012, 22:00 GMT)

To be honest I've been extremely disappointed with Whatmore. He has done absolutely nothing to make the team more professional. Since he came, Pakistan has only slided downwards in all departments. Yes they won Asia cup, but beating Bangladesh twice plus a deranged SL and winning a cup doesn't mean much, especially when they still lost to India. I don't see Pak doing anything of notice in this series or in T20 WC.

Posted by Jamil-ahmed on (August 30, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

Don't blame whatmore Pakistan is a poor team that is truth u people r saying drop this drop that if u play all sixteen players I am sure Pakistan will not be able to win

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 21:15 GMT)

anybody who says drop nasir jamshed and include shoaib malik...should just die

Posted by NaniIndCri on (August 30, 2012, 21:11 GMT)

Pakistan need to score runs that is the only way they can win, bringing another spinner does not solve the problem. Australia needed only 4 per over which means even if the spinners give 3 only per over Aus will only be 30 runs short for other 20 overs which they can score easily. And again there is no guarantee that spinners will give away only 3 per over. If MHussey settles in spinners will be expected to go for a lot more.

Posted by Buckers410 on (August 30, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

Shoaib Malik, Junaid Khan and Wahab Riaz should all be there.

Posted by Omarrz on (August 30, 2012, 21:03 GMT)

Replace cheema with rehman no point of playing 2 fast bowlers when only one of them is going to open the bowling..

or be more aggressive replace tanvir with shoaib..

Posted by sirvivfan on (August 30, 2012, 21:02 GMT)

What's new! Pakistan batsmen are very poor in international context. Whatmore is right when he says they need to read the game better. What he means is the ability to realise what is a reasonable square on a particular ground and opposition. This is a failing of intelligence I am afraid. I am a Pakistani playing club cricket in England and in my village team we have number of Pakistani players. One thing I have noticed is the lack of ability to assess what is required to win a game from a batting view point. This without generalising comes from lack of education. The balance between risk and reward is not understood. Hence they batters are very unpredictable. Amazingly the bowlers are always brilliant very similar to our national team. What would we do do have somebody like Hashim Amla a legend !!

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 20:55 GMT)

Cheema should be drop and Malik shoud be included in the squad and kamran should be send to open and hafiz should come down the Oder

Khalil sagger from dubai

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 20:55 GMT)

Cheema should be drop and Malik shoud be included in the squad and kamran should be send to open and hafiz should come down the Oder

Khalil sagger from dubai

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

why in the hell we r keep trying sohail tanvir when he cant even do bowl or bat? wouldve been better if we had shoaib malik... and junaid khan in team... give the youngster more chances and put some under 19 players in the team some of them were better...

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 20:22 GMT)

Why doesn't Whatmore criticise his batsmen? They performed dreadfully - most of them. Hafeez is a bowler. he rarely scores runs. But then there are better spinners than Hafeez. Why do they keep taking Afridi even after his repeated batting failures? This man hasn't had a decent score in years. For God's sake, force him to retire and try out some younger guys.

Posted by Binyoo on (August 30, 2012, 20:21 GMT)

I think its time to say Mr. Afridi Good Bye. He doesn't deserve more chances. There are so many young players need just a chance to prove their game. I beleive Wahab Riaz and Junaid khan wouldl be better choice for balling attack

I wuld request Pakistani players to play according to the situation not only the way they play their game.

They culd become great too, if thery culd read the situation and play accordingly. Good Luck.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 19:59 GMT)

Whatmore hasn't really achieved anything thus far has he? Before him we lost all chasing games and won most defending games. The only difference I see is that now we LOSE DEFENDING as well! Now there is one way he can do us a favour. He can convince our selectors to let Sadaf Hussain (I am yet to know what he did to deserve being ignored the year he got the most wickets in the Quaid i Azam trophy), Zia ul Haq, and Ehsaan Adil play.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

better drop nasir jamshed, replace him with malik nd open wid kamran AKmal... also aizaz cheema shud hav been replaced by junaid khan in the 1st odi too...

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 19:40 GMT)

Everyone was saying Pakistan was one spinner short. What were you thinking Mr. Whatmore? Abdurrehman should have been part of the team instead of Kamran Akmal.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 19:18 GMT)

We should replace cheema and Tanvir.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 19:09 GMT)

Mr fielded the wrong fast bowlers. You should have played Junaid and Anwar and Pakistan would definitely have won the match even with such a score. Bad selection!

Posted by Shazia_Javed on (August 30, 2012, 19:01 GMT)

Reading the game... for that you need deserving players in the team who can 'read'... and talking about Errors, that are all about selecting the right players and about developing a team that is unite in the purpose... some players are still in the team that want 'self' success and 'others' failures... I disagree with Whatmore.

Posted by Tanvir110 on (August 30, 2012, 18:56 GMT)

Mr. Whatmore you should also read Pakistani players well... one more suggestion for at least after Afridi you should send one specialist batsman for last ten overs, where he should take the inning to 50 overs.. and take batting power play before 35 overs..

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

I think our players always under pressure when ever they encounter with Australia.I don't know why. If u lose wickets at the beaning of first 10 years than automatically the pressure on the new coming batsmen.That is the job of the choach to trained to meet the pressure. Australian repudiation now a days not so good. they have new inexperience players are in the side to groom them for t-20 and next world cup. but we don't have any planning for the future.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 18:44 GMT)

plz include Shoaib malik in replacement of Shahid Afridi bcz he is totally out of form and also change Sohail tanver and Azaz cheema bcz they also not putting there 100% specially Sohail tanveer... he is now Experience player of our Current bowling side, plz give a chance to Anwer Ali, yasir Arafat or Junaid khan. if we talk about batting then in the last game we played 7 batsman in one team and still we bowl all out in 46 overs (included Power player 5 overs)... Asad shafiq and umer akmal both played well and show there sincerity to game and Azhar ali, Hafeez both remain unlucky... plz built strong 2 to 3 allrounder at the root level which can take charge in last overs and build heavy total on the board.

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 18:37 GMT)

I feel Rehman should be given chance and need to try junaid

Posted by   on (August 30, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

I have high hopes from Dav Whatmore as coach of Pakistan as he seems to me a reasonable person. But no one knows this better than the cricketers themselves who are playing under him.

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