Pakistan v Australia, 2nd T20I, Dubai

Australia slide below Ireland in T20 rankings

Brydon Coverdale

September 8, 2012

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Abdul Razzaq picked up two wickets in his only over, including that of George Bailey, Pakistan v Australia, 2nd T20I, Dubai, September 7, 2012
George Bailey batted well but couldn't quite get Australia over the line © AFP

Australia's captain George Bailey has conceded it does not look good for his team to have slipped below Ireland in the ICC's Twenty20 rankings ahead of the World T20 later this month. Australia dropped to tenth on the rankings after their Super Over loss to Pakistan in Dubai on Friday, and it was far from the ideal situation less than two weeks before their World T20 opener - against Ireland.

However, the T20 rankings points are accumulated from such a small pool of matches that it is difficult to read too much into them. In the current rankings period, which began on August 1, 2010, Australia have won only four of their 13 games, which have all come against South Africa, Pakistan, England, India, Sri Lanka and West Indies.

By comparison, Ireland have won eight of 11, but all of their victories have come against Associate nations: Kenya, Scotland, Canada, Netherlands and Afghanistan. The only matches they have played against full ICC members came during a three-match series against Bangladesh in July - and Ireland lost all three games. Similarly, six of the eight games Bangladesh (who are ranked eighth) have played in that time have been against Associates.

"It doesn't look very good," Bailey told reporters in Dubai after Australia's loss on Friday. "I'm still not sure how the rankings work. So Ireland go past us tonight. I'm not sure if we've ever played Ireland in a T20. Make of that what you will. If Ireland are a better side than us I guess they'll show it in a couple of weeks in Sri Lanka."

Rankings aside, Australia have several things to work on ahead of the World T20, including settling on their best combination. Mitchell Starc was impressive in the second match having been left out of the first game and Bailey's own T20 form with the bat took an encouraging turn with his brisk 42 from 27 balls, which nearly got the Australians home.

David Warner and Shane Watson also provided a solid start with their 40-run opening stand from less than five overs, and similar efforts will be essential in Sri Lanka. Bailey said despite the loss there were plenty of positives for Australia to take from Friday's game, especially after they were bowled out for 89 in the first match two days earlier.

"I'm really pleased we performed much closer to what I think we're capable of," Bailey said. "I think we can take a lot of confidence out of it as a team, I think individually we'll take a lot of confidence out of it. But to be so close and then to lose leaves a lot of questions in your head.

"We've got a lot to get out of [the third game on Monday]. Full credit to Pakistan, I think they've played two excellent games and certainly deserve to have won the series. But we've got a lot to play for. It's the bigger picture, we all know what's coming up. As a group, individually I still think there's plenty to play for."

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Posted by VivtheGreatest on (September 11, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

@Bruisers, LOL!! That is absolutely true my friend. George who??!

Posted by Bruisers on (September 10, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

The Aussies are being led by a batsman who might not find a place in the Ireland starting XI.

Posted by   on (September 10, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

Golden days have gone for Australia. There is no Gilly,Hyden,Symonds,McGrath,Warne for them... More disaster is waiting for Australia Cricket.

Posted by bouncedout on (September 10, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

@Jonesy and randyOz...where are you boys, hiding away like your national T20 team should be. Actually on performances Aus deserve their ranking.....wait until Ireland beat them at the world cup...this really couldn't get any better.

Posted by TrickDaddy on (September 10, 2012, 11:25 GMT)

Ireland got white washed by Bangladesh how can you even dream of beating Aus! Rankings don't mean a thing, Bang went from number 4 to 10 after a defeat to Netherlands: it's a joke!!

Posted by RandyOZ on (September 10, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

@hammond - welcome back pommy. How was your extended summer away from all things cricket?

Posted by ScottStevo on (September 10, 2012, 9:22 GMT)

Grouping/Span/Mat/Won/Lost/Tied v Bangladesh 2007-2010 2 2 0 0 0 - 33.12 7.83 141 - v England 2005-2011 7 3 3 0 1 1.00 27.15 7.97 221 79 v India 2007-2012 6 3 3 0 0 1.00 28.12 8.10 184 131 v New Zealand 2005-2010 5 4 0 1 0 - 33.96 9.19 214 - v Pakistan 2007-2012 9 3 5 1 0 0.60 16.12 7.50 197 89 v South Africa 2006-2011 8 4 4 0 0 1.00 26.47 8.52 209 - v Sri Lanka 2007-2011 6 2 4 0 0 0.50 22.41 7.92 168 - v West Indies 2008-2012 7 4 3 0 0 1.33 28.42 8.49 179 - v Zimbabwe 2007-2007 1 0 1 0 0 0.00 15.33 6.90 138 -

Australia are so disgraceful that neither SA, Eng, Ind, NZ, ZIM nor Bang have anything over us....oh, except for ranking...

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (September 10, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

@faisal_baig, if u had bothered to read my whole comment instead of just the first line u would have understood I was being sarcastic or did u read it and just not get it?

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (September 10, 2012, 9:15 GMT)

@jonesy2,U put ur foot in mouth calling England one of the worst teams, conveniently forgetting that they're the current World Champions. Give credit where it's due man

Posted by Hammond on (September 10, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

@timmyw- mate you are a breath of fresh air. There truly is hope for Australian cricket fans yet (btw 2010/11 was the ashes loss not the previous South African loss- so many losses it starts to get confusing)..

Posted by   on (September 10, 2012, 8:52 GMT)


ODI ENgland 01 Actual-06

T20 Aus 10 Actual- 06

Posted by   on (September 10, 2012, 8:47 GMT)

I think Clark should be in T20 at-least for world-cup because he knows how to play the spin and can maintain higher than 100 strike rate at any surface.

Again Ajmal will be the key in 3rd T20.

Posted by   on (September 10, 2012, 8:39 GMT)

Now the lossing time for for England against India....

Posted by timmyw on (September 10, 2012, 7:40 GMT)

@Hammond - you're not wrong there mate. But I haven't forgotten, I might be one of the only impartial observers in this country. That was one hell of a series and SA deserved that win thoroughly. I think they are going to give us a pasting this time. However, if Australia bowl like they did last summer it will be a lot closer than many people are predicting. I reckon 2-1 SA. If Australia really step up to the plate with their bowling it might even be a draw / outside chance of a win. Can't wait! As for the T20 rankings. Well, can't say we didn't deserve this it seems like most Aussies just don't care that much about T20, like it's just a hit around the back yard. A bit of fun. I think we've paid for that attitude in this format.

Posted by Hammond on (September 10, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

@thebarmyarmy- knowing my countrymen after South Africa tear us a new one this summer they will all run home to mama (NRL & AFL) and forget the cricket ever happened just like they did in 2010/11.

Posted by   on (September 10, 2012, 2:48 GMT)

This again proves how ridiculous these Ranking System is. Any person who has a bit of common sense knows AUS is far better team than IRISH and BANGLAs., In 20-20 the difference between winning and losing is very very narrow. And this current ranking system has to go trash box.

Posted by thebarmyarmy on (September 10, 2012, 2:33 GMT)

Worrying times for Australian cricket. Maybe its time to pick up the banana and kick that around a field of 50 people wrestling in mud. (AFL)

Posted by cricketfannik on (September 10, 2012, 2:30 GMT)

T 20 is baseball cricket every ball either u hit or even mishit ull get 4 or 6 doesnt matter if u are 30/3 still ull make 140 and dats it. this form of cricket makes players Vulnerable in test cricket and even 50-50. look @ raina in 2nd test almost cost india game, leave this T 20 alone players who play this shouldnt play test cricket or even 50-50 destroying the game.England invented it and now they are doing good in test cricket look @ india shot selections in test cricket last and this yr so far.look how WI bat in test matches and NZ uff they dont even know which team is t20 or 50 or test team shameful

Posted by RJHB on (September 10, 2012, 2:02 GMT)

WHo cares?? Is anyone in Australia actually losing sleep over T20 rankings? Only tiddly winks lightweights like to mouth off about them, and its pretty easy to see who THEY are on these comments boards!

Posted by bigwonder on (September 10, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

@Janette M Knight, you sound like sour grapes. Next year when England thrash you in Ashes, will you say the same about test and ODI? A better approach is to accept one's short comings and try to improve on it. Staying in denial will only lead to further degradation.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 23:30 GMT)

I consider it a badge of pride that the Aussies are rated poorly in popcorn cricket. Give me number 6 in test cricket over number 1 in 20/20 any time. Let the countries that value 20/20 be good at it.

Posted by VinnieVincent on (September 9, 2012, 22:48 GMT)

lol, 'it is difficult to read too much into the world rankings'??

No, it isn't difficult, Australia is terrible at T20, the selectors have no idea when it comes to picking a side and how on earth is George Bailey captain.

Posted by phoenixsteve on (September 9, 2012, 22:48 GMT)

T20 cricket is pretty meaningless and the ranking are even more so. There is so much luck about each and every game and occasionally the 'mighty' get humbled by the 'minnows? The Aussies are in rebuild mode and hopefully they'll laugh off this headline. Just ask any neutral cricket follower who would you bet on in a Oz vs Ireland game? You could even ask Irish supporters and the result would be pretty much the same! T20 is joke cricket and the sooner it goes away the better.... and I'm a supporter of the present World T20 champions! . COME ON ENGLAND!!!'

Posted by ygkd on (September 9, 2012, 22:03 GMT)

cont) And before anyone jumps in and says the Big Bash is not exactly a state comp any more, well it hasn't have to be to cast a long shadow over state rookie lists. Everyone now knows that T20 is a vehicle into the national team. Poor performances in hit-and-giggle is now no laughing matter for those concerned.

Posted by ygkd on (September 9, 2012, 21:59 GMT)

As an Aussie I cannot complain about the rankings. If Ireland hasn't played enough games against the test nations, it is hardly their fault. Australia went there recently to play one limited-overs game as a warm-up which, given typical Irish weather, was washed out. But we can't just blame the weather. When was the last time the Irish were invited out here? Play more games against them and the rankings might alter. Win more games against test nations and they definitely will alter. As regards the lack of skill in T20 - the boundaries between long-form and short-form are getting very blurred (for better or worse or maybe both at the same time, if not in equal measure). So T20 now does matter whether I like it or not. Just ask those on state rookie lists how seriously they have to take it. Besides the problems with spin in all departments start in domestic cricket. When you have good spinners bowling you also have bats who know their technique against spin will be tested. And vice-versa.

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (September 9, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

Actually the rankings are not that very much complicated u see. All you have to do is play and win matches, simple!!! Aus won 4 out of their last 13 matches so it is not very much surprising atleast to me that their position in T-20 is that low.

Posted by AdrianVanDenStael on (September 9, 2012, 18:51 GMT)

I'm no Australia fan, but I feel these rankings are a bit of farce. Earlier in the summer, after those victories against Ireland that are mentioned, Bangladesh actually briefly leapt to fourth in the world twenty20 rankings, before losing a match to the Netherlands and consonantly immediately plumetting back down to ninth

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 18:39 GMT)

@Ted Osborne

Hey Champ - where are you?? See there is no shame in being below Ireland - I noticed that some people are commenting they have a strong team. Common you know how good OZ actually are - we are missing your comments to inspire OZ to beat Ireland and take back their honor. Wait they have Kevin O' Brien!! - oh my goodness. Still oz can win ...right ....right :-)

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

you know what guy's aus is gonna loose againat ireland

Posted by steve_mcking1 on (September 9, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

It's one thing to slip below Ireland on rankings but another thing to lose to them.

Posted by landl47 on (September 9, 2012, 16:03 GMT)

Cheer up, Australian fans- T20 isn't cricket, it's another game played with the same equipment. In real cricket, Australia is a useful side. Forget the kiddie game, concentrate on getting ready for the Ashes. That actually matters.

Posted by Munafis810 on (September 9, 2012, 15:48 GMT)

A team ranked below Ireland took the Pakistanis to the super over. I Think the Whatmore should be the one to be worried here.

Posted by sharidas on (September 9, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

These rankings are purely to add some interest to the followers of the game. Seriously, who would accept this as a genuine yardstick ? As long as it brings on huge responses from readers like us, it has done its part.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (September 9, 2012, 14:59 GMT)

@Posted by jezmondo on (September 09 2012, 12:59 PM GMT) wow how embarassing is that? Ireland such a small cricketing nation ahead of the so called might of australia. are you reading jonesy2? ---------------------------------------------------------------

@ jezmondo: Randy and jonesy aren't reading this as, just like countless other times over the last four years of the infamous 'Australian Slide' that England set them off on, they don't comment on embarrassing stories about Australia. And this story, with Ireland hilariously confirmed as better than Australia, is one such event.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 14:38 GMT)

@Pras_Punter: You're right and we might lose spectacularly again when we next tour Aus, but last we faced off, it was a tie, it was in England so not exactly conducive to us, and I think we have gotten much better since then. So at the very least, that huge gap has closed to some extent. As some people have already pointed out, Pakistan is disadvantaged by Australia not having toured us since 1998, even at the UAE, whereas we toured Australia in 2009 I think. @Syed Imtasal Shah: I was told Pakistan is the Brazil of cricket, not Australia.

Posted by RandyOZ on (September 9, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

@ Hammond !! Welcome back mate! Missed you during the entire English summer. How was your break avoiding anything cricket?

Posted by Baber_Baloch on (September 9, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

Baily is doing good also he DONE well in last T20.....Just MEkhussy did,nt runs...Baily continue

Posted by shillingsworth on (September 9, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

If the World T20 is to be staged every two years or so, with very few international T20 matches in the intervening period, what is the point of these rankings? Australia reached the final of the last global T20 competition. Until it is proved otherwise in a global competition or in meaningful numbers of bilateral matches, they remain the no 2 T20 side.

Posted by BravoBravo on (September 9, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

I agree with most of the comment posted here, that T20 is not real cricket, it is just a visual entertainment without much technical skill required. It is just draw of the luck. Test cricket reamains the main format of the game. Having said that the 2nd T20 between PAK vs AUS was a really humdinger. Otherwise, these IPL and its clone are just taking away of any shine (if there is any) in T20.

Posted by abdullahiqbal on (September 9, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

aus is best team for oneday not for t20 they will search for new captian for t20 format i thank watson is best chioce for captiancey

Posted by Hammond on (September 9, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

It will be fun to watch Australia lose again tonight, can't stand the format, but Australian defeat is always worth a grin.

Posted by jezmondo on (September 9, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

wow how embarassing is that? Ireland such a small cricketing nation ahead of the so called might of australia. are you reading jonesy2?

Posted by ash.pak on (September 9, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

@ Mervo big LOLLLLLLLL shame on u what is proper cricket u tell us

Posted by matchfixerpkn on (September 9, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

hope now every one know how ordinary shikib al hasan become sir all rounder !!!!

Posted by abdullahiqbal on (September 9, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

aus is best teamfor oneday not for 20 they can search for new captian before w.c

Posted by Hammond on (September 9, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

@jonesy2- actually mate, overall Australia are the worst full member side. Their ranking in all forms of the game should be more like their T20 one.

Posted by Drew2 on (September 9, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

@pitch_curator it may be a fact that currently Australia is below Ireland in the T20 rankings, but that only highlights how inadequate the ranking system is.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

T20 itself is a big fat joke. The fact we (Bangladesh) are ahead of the Aussies in rankings and at one point we were sitting at no.4 doesn't make any difference to me. Come the end of T20 World Cup, we could see Afghanistan at top of the table. Does it mean that they're also capable of winning the tournament in its full (50 over) format? You tell me!

Posted by shaantanu on (September 9, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

T20 is a big joke.just like its rankings........makes no sense

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

Thanks to India and Pakistan for Aussie downslide :P

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

whatever be the ranking, Australia is not that bad to be number 10.

Posted by sharidas on (September 9, 2012, 11:54 GMT)

Luck is part of every game and at the knockout stage all the more so. But still, a team certainly needs to be consistent to go on and win the World Cup. There are quite a few contenders this year, but, I would be surprised if a team from Asia does not win it this time.

Posted by chapathishot on (September 9, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

I dont know wether they use the same criterion for ranking in all three formats but there is some serious error in T20 rankings as after winning against Ireland, Bangladesh was No 4 now they are down below .India was well down and after winning 1 match they are in top six .If Aussies win the last game they will again be in the top five so the method is skewed.

Posted by waheed1233 on (September 9, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

Shows the Aussies are not sloggers like india or ireland...T20 is a format of the street cricket and quality teams like Australia should not focus on this...

Posted by Aussiesfalling on (September 9, 2012, 11:38 GMT)

That has cheered me up a bit.

Posted by bumsonseats on (September 9, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

most seem to forget the icc T20 table is similar to the premer league football table teams go up and down. it does not indicate one team is better than another its simply a way of showing at any giving time how maybe 1 team is playing better than another. if you have run of 3/4 wins it can take you up into the top 4. i can understand the aussies finding it hard as most have had to have them crowing how good they were for years. mind on a personal note i love it, as a school report it would read. cannot think to much of past glories, must do better.

Posted by risky on (September 9, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

To all my Australian friends. Plz don't care about the rankings in T20. You are a lot better than it shows. 2nd game was a big show. Ozs played best game against the best T20 bowlers. I hope Australia will become a better team after this series & will do better in WC. I am a big fan of Australian cricket talent. Love from Pakistan.

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (September 9, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

Against Pakistan, Australia had clear mental block against Ajmal. It was as if whenever Ajmal walked in to the bowling crease a wicket loomed. And australians were without any clue against Ajmal. They might do well against others as others dont have AJMAL. They can hope to get to the final and hope not to have Pakistan/Ajmal waiting for them in the final.

Posted by Champ2000 on (September 9, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

Rankings are all right. Everyone agrees we need one and it has to be objective and statistical. When aus had 3 wins of 11 they were ahead of Ireland who had 8 of 11, because ire played against weaker team. That proves it is close to perfection. Now if Australiaa wants o be above ire they can play all associate nation and boost it up. But ranking will only point to number based n available pool.

Other Sid of coin is, if aus n ow wins against England they will perhaps jump 3 places due to difference in there weights, this will all look ok after that. S aus do you think you can beat eng or pak.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 11:08 GMT)

Clearly the rankings are not terribly precise and should probably be taken only slightly more seriously than jonesy2's comments - but it's still really amusing to see Australia below Ireland. I wouldn't have missed it for worlds.

Posted by LALITHKURUWITA on (September 9, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

T20 is a lottary. Even Afghan can win this T20 WC.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 10:18 GMT)

I'm from Pakistan... and so glad to know that everyone thinks that T20 isn't proper cricket. I think nobody should take it seriously, not even Asians, even if they are very good at it.

Posted by jonesy2 on (September 9, 2012, 10:15 GMT)

to say the rankings are meaningless is a gross understatement. england are near the top for goodness sake and they are by far the worst full member side

Posted by Meety on (September 9, 2012, 10:14 GMT)

@Sinhaya on (September 09 2012, 04:45 AM GMT) -I agree our record in T20s is not that good, although I think that we have in Watto & Warner, potentially the best T20 opening combo in the world. I think our bowling is quite good in the format. The problem is players like White, who is good or D Hussey, are not consistently doing what they can do often enuff! A lot of my countrymen say they don't care about T20 - I don't either in COMPARISON to ODIs & Tests, but I hate Oz losing Lawn Bowls, & so I care about whether we win or not.

Posted by Mervo on (September 9, 2012, 10:12 GMT)

Who cares! It is not cricket anyway.

Posted by Wozza-CY on (September 9, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

It's all good, we can still win the T20 world cup, we just like the 'underdog' tag.

Posted by Umar79 on (September 9, 2012, 10:02 GMT)

As far the last match, I think Pakistan realy worked hard on their extras. They hv'given only 1 extra(LB) in 20 overs. Amazing. Also the Kamran's keeping realy improved. Otherwise he only had given 5-6 byes in a match. Aus tried 58 players so far in T20 for last 3 years. I think it is also a big reason of Aus's poor performance in T20 format.

Posted by gogoldengreens on (September 9, 2012, 9:59 GMT)

This goes to show how irrelevant ICC ratings are... Lets see how many games Ireland & Bangladesh win at the world cup

Posted by pitch_curator on (September 9, 2012, 9:56 GMT)

@ Marcio -- Why are u talking about test cricket when the thread is about T20 rankings? The fact is that as per rankings Australia are below Ireland in T20. So, take it and leave it there. Why are you trying to justify their pathetic ranking?? lol

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (September 9, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

Australia will take the World Cup seriously you can be sure of that. These games in Dubai have been treated as warm ups for that and to be honest most of the other games since the last WC have been odd 2 game series tacked on the end of the serious stuff. Interested to read in the WC t20 section of cricinfo about the wickets in SL being more pace & seam friendly. So giving warm up games to a pace based attack isn't just about the obvious lack of quality spinners in Australian cricket. Again I agree with Cummins being put in that pressure situation but if it had been a final in the WC I'm sure it would have been Watson or Starc. A great experience and learning situation for Cummins but. A t20 WC is more of a lottery than in other formats but on quicker wickets with a bit of seam a team with Starc, Watson, Cummins & Hilfenhaus bowling and opening up with Warner & Watson with Mike Hussey to come may surprise a few teams.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

Although Australia were not the winners but there was not a 1% ordinary performance by Australia. They played very well, took the ODI series, gave the tough time to home side in their conditions. They have good combination of all type of players, i think they will show far better performance in world t20 than what this ranking says. Best of luck to both Pakistan and Australia in upcoming event.

Posted by yorkslanka on (September 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT)

so the ratings dont differentiate between associate countries and full teams?silly imho, it doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out that this is flawed...come on icc, sort it out...

Posted by xed-khan on (September 9, 2012, 8:27 GMT)

To almost everyone here, if Australia does not take T20 'seriously', why participate in the World Cup then? Stay at home...Say, why even play T20 at all if you all think its not worth it. I'm sure the cricket board can work something out with the ICC to exclude Auss from this form of cricket...I hope im not crossing the line by calling T20 'cricket'?!

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

I don't know why anyone cares. It's a terrible format and doesn't even look like the actual game of cricket. We can slide right off the table as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by Talhacroft on (September 9, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

Australia after Ireland, Ajmal not in the test player selection, Australia not played test even after with Pak after 14 years... all these things shows that there are more poor decisions coming up.

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (September 9, 2012, 7:47 GMT)

Australia might be low in the ranking at the moment but i am sure they will bounce back very soon. I mean look at the way they played even in last match. they fought like wounded tigers but Pakistan were amazing that day. looking forward to last t20. its gona be another cracker jacker.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 7:32 GMT)

First of all having George Bailey as T20 Captain is beyond my comprehension with the likes of Watson and Mike Hussey still in the side. Second giving the super over to Cummins in place of Starc speaks of the evident stupidity which the new captain possesses. And i must say the captain failed to estimate the conditions of the game. Having Hogg in the side makes no sense, he is an aging wag... It wud be wiser to add on doherty along with another permanent spinner rather than make shift arrangements. A word of advice for Bailey ---> stop blaming the ranking system, work on your undeserved captaincy skills...

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (September 9, 2012, 7:24 GMT)

We can now officially say what all of us have known for the last four years: Ireland are better than Australia, and the rankings reflect this.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 7:09 GMT)


Posted by Baber_Baloch on (September 9, 2012, 7:07 GMT)

i don,t believe ICC system how they do Rankings....AUSTRALIA IS BEST THAN IRELAND...ICC need to think...HOW they handle AJMAL now he best in all format ....but no in ICC award LISt ...same AUT is best but it,d ranking below ireland...ICC unbeliveable

Posted by Marcio on (September 9, 2012, 6:59 GMT)

@Abhinav Sachdeva. "Australia is getting owned ever second series". Really? Would you like to name those series? Because as an Australian I am unaware of this trend. As far as I can remember, Australia has lost only one ODI series in the last 20 months, and no test series at all. It's amazing what nonsense one reads on this site. As for T20s, Australia has drawn series with all the top-ranked teams in the last 18 months - India, England and SA. Oh, they will lose this series, most likely by a margin of 1 run, as I think they have a great chance of winning the last game. T20s are a poor indication of a country's cricket talent. They are usually warm up games before tests or ODIs. Outcomes also depend far too much on good fortune. Even a few slogs by a tailender can win games easily, and that is not a great thing in my opinion. The longer the game format, the more weaknesses show up in teams in terms of ability, technique and discipline. e.g NZ & BANG & IND.

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 6:41 GMT)

I think the Aussies need to hastily arrange a best of 5 series against the Afghani's.... Good match practise and may, I say may just get that ranking headed the right way!

Posted by StevieS on (September 9, 2012, 5:59 GMT)

It just goes to show the ranking system is a joke, Ireland better than Aussie, England ranked number one in any form, seriously flawed system. I would never right off Australia.

Posted by addles on (September 9, 2012, 4:51 GMT)

I vaguely understand and relutantly accept that T20 possibly has a place in the cricket landscape. However, personally I don't care about the rankings of this 'hit & giggle' format. Test cricket remains the true form of the game at international level and even ODI's allow particpants to exhibit a broad range of skills, but T20....really?

Posted by Sinhaya on (September 9, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

@Pras_Punter, rememeber Australia has not toured Pakistan at all since 1998. Other teams like SA, England, India, Sri Lanka etc toured Pakistan twice between 1998 and 2009. So the record in tests is unfairly in Australia's favor. T20 is also one of the 3 cricket formats and not taking it seriously is not an excuse. Surely then why waste money on a BBL?

Posted by Sinhaya on (September 9, 2012, 4:45 GMT)

@Meety, Aussies have not been the best in T20s in contrast to the other formats. I think this Aussies side is the best for tests and not very good in ODIs either after managing a draw with Windies. This T20 ranking is flawed as I agree there must be adjustments when an associate plays and associate like Ireland's case.

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (September 9, 2012, 4:25 GMT)

@Pras punter,let me make corectn! Pak z reasnable ahead of aus in tests nowadays ,it z U Who needs to b stand corectd,when did last time aus tourd pak? If ur team visits pak by now(at uae,dubai) ur team might nt end difrntly to poms since ur batsmen r poor even than d poms,IN OTHR WORDS U R GD AT UR HOME WHILE PAK R CLOSE TO UNBEATABLE AT MAKESHIFT HOME

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 4:02 GMT)

really, who cares? it's t20. i'd be concerned if australia were to go below bangladesh in tests! of course that'll never happen.

Posted by bouncer1021 on (September 9, 2012, 3:41 GMT)

Don't be fooled about the rankings. Australian's still have a strong team. They almost took away second T20 from Pakistan. Incredble fighting sprit and few big hitters who will only get better. I think two team were even. I see Aus, West Indies, Pakistan and SriLank are the ones to watch out for in the T20 WC.

Posted by mateyman on (September 9, 2012, 3:35 GMT)

If we lose to Ireland in match of any meaning (e.g the ODI or 20/20 World Cup) then I will be worried.

Posted by rumyfala on (September 9, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

absolute stupidity like vamsi krishna said. but the biggest joke was bailey asking cummings bowl. cummings has conceded 37 in his 4 overs. it should have been starc. or am i wrong ? anyway who decides who bowls the super over ? I too think the 20-20 ranking system is a joke. ICC should have never allowed this joke. 20-20 is a carnival. it doesnt matter who wins or who loses. you cannot judge which is a better team in this stupid games. in the last IPL ,KKR won but definitely they were not the best team in the tournament.correct e if i am wrong.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (September 9, 2012, 3:18 GMT)

Australia will need to give up on the 9th place battle with Ireland and concentrate on the battle with Canada, Namibia, USA, Bermuda, Kenya & Bermuda for 10th

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 3:13 GMT)

Anything ICC is involved in seems funny, looking at all the rankings, omission of Ajmal from the awards list,and I still don't understand what is ICC Anti corruption team is doing, when they haven't able to catch anyone. And British newspaper was able to catch some players red handadly.

Posted by RandyOZ on (September 9, 2012, 3:06 GMT)

What is it with us selecting utterly useless T20 captains. I do not give two hoots about the rubbish format, but surely selecting WHite and now Bailey was a dare by the selectors? I mean these are two of the worst players to ever wear the green and gold. It's hilarious really!

Posted by Moppa on (September 9, 2012, 2:50 GMT)

Nice to see mostly sensible comments on this article, rather than a lot of mindless Aussie bashing. It is true that both the ICC T20 ranking system is flawed at best, and that Australia are not presently a very good T20 side. As to whether they're better than Ireland/Bangladesh/NZ/whomever, who can really say unless you had home and away 3 match series between the sides - which would be a complete waste of time. For those comparing comments now that the ICC rankings are no good with our apparent crowing about Australia being #1 some years ago (apparently 3 consecutive World Cups were not enough proof), the difference is between the T20 matches, where very few international matches are played and many involve affiliate nations, with Test/ODI rankings where the spread of matches is more consistent and generally involves Test-qualified countries. It is quite possible that Test/ODI rankings are generally reliable and T20 rankings are not.

Posted by TRAM on (September 9, 2012, 2:47 GMT)

Did Aus slide-UP any rankings?

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (September 9, 2012, 2:31 GMT)

In all seriousness i think this does prove that their are slight issues with the ranking system because Ireland have been a better side than australia for over a year now..

Posted by Number_5 on (September 9, 2012, 2:14 GMT)

Yes we are worse that Ireland at T20. And how many people actually care? T20 is very popular with certain fans, its a cash cow for the game and brings new people to the sport. Hit and giggle.

Posted by TRAM on (September 9, 2012, 2:03 GMT)

Absolutely this is the stupidest of conclusions ever. Can some cricket knowledgeable people (instead of mathematicians) please handle the ranking systems please??

Posted by   on (September 9, 2012, 1:40 GMT)

That country which has seldom defeated permanent ICC member country is above Australia is ranking. Evaluation system does not sound scientific so the cricket lovers do not accept it comfortably.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (September 9, 2012, 1:08 GMT)

Australia has never been great at T20. I'm am not too worried. However, it would be good to be ranked above the minnows.

Posted by mikey76 on (September 9, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

I'm sorry but this has me in stitches. Randy and Jonesy have gone eerily silent. These rankings are almost meaningless but hilarious all the same to see Australia "beneath" Ireland. They really have been slow out of the blocks regarding this format.

Posted by sloan on (September 9, 2012, 0:51 GMT)

As an Irishman living in Australia of course Australia is a better side ,however cricket is bigger than the test sides. Question what team limited the T20 World champions to their lowest total in the last T20 World Cup? Answer Ireland. Australia will most likely beat Ireland but as long as Ireland compete I will be happy. Associates need opportunities not scorn Yours in cricket Carl Sloan

Posted by abmughal on (September 9, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

i think the bowling department of the aussies isnt good thats why there are a lots defeats in their box. they should produce specialist t20 bowlers which lead their team to victory as i consider bowling is more important than batting in t20 format

Posted by VivGilchrist on (September 8, 2012, 23:57 GMT)

This is reflective of Australia NEVER picking 11 players in one team that are ALL suited to T20 cricket. We have always had a Clarke or another not suited to the game using up valuable deliveries at the expense of more explosive hitters. Maxwell can hit the cover off the ball and has been in great form, but was dropped for this game. Is McKay injured?

Posted by Sanj747 on (September 8, 2012, 22:30 GMT)

Remove Bailey. He is not suited for 20 20 cricket.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 22:18 GMT)

The ranking system is a joke. But having said that,this doesn't mean Aussies aren't getting bad. Australian team is getting worse and worse day by day. You had a time when these guys were ruling world cricket and today,they are getting owned in every 2nd series. The selector himself agreed that the talent isn't gr8 in the country right now. Micheal Hussey isn't getting any younger. David Hussey-A guy tipped for test selection is already 30+. God save this australian side!

Posted by Nadeem1976 on (September 8, 2012, 20:43 GMT)

T2020 rankings does not matter because these rankings are computed with small number of matches. Australia played exceptionally well in this match and i believe if they keep on improving like this they can win WC in the end.

Ireland cannot even produce a good match let alone one of the best matches of all time in T2020 history by aussies.

Give credit to aussies for great great match. Still feeling the emotions of that match. What a performance.

Posted by ashes267 on (September 8, 2012, 20:16 GMT)

aus was never serius abt T20 as it is nt a real cricket ,bt nt 4 than a 4 hr public entertainment show . And I think that thats a wise decision. A 4 hr joke of cricket is foolishness as compared to real cricket of 4 day test match. And FYI , I am an young Indian who is bored with T20s.

Posted by dabhand on (September 8, 2012, 17:42 GMT)

Australia slide below Ireland in T20 rankings - where's all those aussies who were berating England, ah, telling us T20 doesn't matter, well perhaps now that

Australia slide below Ireland in T20 rankings

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

Aussies got their batting order wrong , that was their only bad move... Pakistan looks like a very good T20 team.. I think this WC will be more interesting!

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

No worries what ranking say. As a Pakistani fan we think Aussie as Brazil of Cricket :) so i think Awards n Ranking doesn't mater everyone knows which Country Possess the real talent Like Pakistan :)

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

The super over was total the Pak innings, Cummins started well by bowling a slow ball which Umar Akmal just swings wildly. Then he ruins it by bowling length ball and it is hit for four by Umar. Then another length which Umar expertly scores only 1 run. Then in the end when Cummins was bowling last ball, he bowls a bouncer which is called wide (stupid bowling) but even more stupidity was Umar akmal not running a bye when Razzak called. I think this match showed which team tried desperately to lose it...

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 15:56 GMT)

I am agreed with Mr. Drew Foster.

Posted by Zahidsaltin on (September 8, 2012, 15:12 GMT)


Posted by PrasPunter on (September 8, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

WickyRoy, are you serious in saying that pak is as good as us in tests ? The last time i checked, pak hasnt beaten Aus in a test-series for more than a decade. Could be longer as well. Gets your facts right before making comments like this. To repeat, we don't bother much about our performances in t20 !! And we mean it !

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 14:10 GMT)

I am sure Australians wil say that ICC rankings are s..... But when they were ranked number one they were shouting everywhere.

Posted by ihaq1 on (September 8, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

australia lost the super over on a dropped catch and a fumbled run out...usually their fielding has been better as shown by dan christian...their batting effort have been pathetic however...with some players thinking that thirty is enough and let teh husseys score...Bailey seems a greenhorn at captaincy as he should not be that despondent...his fast bowlers also need a lot of experience ..he also let pakistan off teh hook after containing then earlier and he still does not have a real spin option...maxwell should study teh pakistani spinners whose ordinary deliveries were getting them wickets...warner played well but fell to spin again...

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (September 8, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

@Narbavi,i gues ur wishful thinking cannot change d reality,aus z no betr than pak in t20,tests,thy r slightly betr in odis

Posted by Zahidsaltin on (September 8, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

ICC rankings and Awards are no reflection of performances. Rankings were already a joke and now after omission of Ajmal, their awards are even bigger joke.

Posted by Zahidsaltin on (September 8, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

MR. BAILEY, I am a Pakistan fan and want to say this: Firstly, its absurd to hear you saying that your team played close to what are capable of. In my opinion it is even not close to 70% of what your team is capable of Mr. Baily but yes you were close to a win. Watson, Both Hussys, Warner and now you all of you are very much capable of winning any match single handedly. You have some of the best fast bowlers and good wicketkeeper batsman. Your biggest problem is in the spin department and that counts big in T20. I would have choosen some slow medium pacers with tight lines as substitutes for spinners. Australia needs to post a 20 runs extra to win matches if dont have a good spinner. AND I will say a captain ask ask much more than declaring it close to their capability.

Posted by Supa_SAFFA on (September 8, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

Doesn't mean a thing. Absolutely loving it all the same.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

@faisal_baig I don't think Australia have ever been #1 primarily because t20 is not something that is considered serious cricket. It is more popular in domestic than international cricket here. We prefer our international series to have some substance.

Posted by tooty99 on (September 8, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

As an Aussie I'm not being a sore loser because Australia are not at their best but I have to question the ranking system. Ireland first played T20 in 2008 and the biggest team they have ever beaten is Bangladesh and that was in 2009. If their not playing against major cricket nations and winning they should not be rated the same.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Unbeliveable T20 Cricket it reminds me am not sure was same situation when 1 run was needed 1 ball was remaning abdul razzaq was bowilng and a srilankan batsmen was playing razzaq got a wicket there and as welll as here

Posted by cricfanmoto on (September 8, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

Wheres punter when you need him?

Posted by tfjones1978 on (September 8, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

I think this goes to show that the ICC needs to make T20s part of FTP with guaranteed 30 matches for each team over a two year period between each T20 World Cup. Each team should play each other twice (home or away) in a "T20 World Series" with the top 8 teams qualifying for the World Cup and the bottom 4 teams (13th-16th) having to play against next top 6 associates (eg: 2 groups of 5) to qualify for next T20 World Series. T20I matches could be limited to only 2 matches against each team excluding world cups. The World Cup being a smaller group of 8 teams would be more markettable and teams would have to compete to get there.

Posted by Meety on (September 8, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

I'm happy for Irish fans, just like I was for Bangladesh fans when they recently were ranked 4th. As an Ozzy, I won't lose much sleep over this, I imagine the rankings will be volatile for a while, but there needs to be some adjustments when it Associate v Associate/Affiliate OR Test nation v Associate/Affiliate.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 11:25 GMT)

oz wont be there for long and surely going to answer the critics by winning the t20 world cup.Go ozzzzzzz.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

@RyanSmith, No Irish think they're better then Australia. However the humiliation of them being below us is quite funny. As a Irish fan I do have a lot of respect for Australia and always have :)

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (September 8, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

Its totally understandable why some people are questioning about the ranking system but guys, you have to remember the World T20 Cup is coming up and that tournament for once and for all will decide where every team truly stands at least on that table. If a team like Ireland did beat Australia at their opening group encounter then who can argue with the ranking system then?

Posted by ejsiddiqui on (September 8, 2012, 10:13 GMT)

Rankings are not true reflection of a team's strength. Although we won the series but I still think Australia is one of the best team in the world. All teams have faced the heat against the Pakistan bowling attack. There is a reason that all Top 3 leading wicket takers in T20 are Pakistani and they are playing together.

Posted by ejsiddiqui on (September 8, 2012, 10:08 GMT)

Knowing the target to chase and Dew has played a big role in all the matches during Aus tour of UAE. Team batting 2nd has all won the matches (Pak batted 2nd in Superover). When Pakistan batted 2nd, they beat Australia comprehensively with big margins. When Australia batted 2nd, they won marginally. So, defeating Pakistan was very difficult even in matches where Aus batted 2nd.

Posted by zdrgn on (September 8, 2012, 9:48 GMT)

this ranking system is quite bizarre and does not reflect current strength of the teams. i personally think australia has got better chance than last time as bailey can bat better than clarke in t20. good luck for them in world cup.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

hahaha love to c OZ fans humiliated :D . nw thy are sayin whoooo cares abt t20 lolx.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

Just proves that ICC rankings wrong, stupid and irrelevant. Eng was no.1 ranked even after loosing 3-0 to Pak. Hafeez is ranked as best odi bowler. Tostobe as #2' although both are not among top 3 of their own team. Winning WC final has same points as any ordinary meaningless odi.

Posted by Narbavi on (September 8, 2012, 9:34 GMT)

@Saqib M Ibrahim: lol the truth is aus are better than your team, u know it as well, it was just an one off performance!!

Posted by akash_ks on (September 8, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

This rankings just a no.s don't compare such a quality team like Australia to low profile teams....Aussies dominated world cricket for two decades, In any ICC tournaments Aussies r always favorites & moreover they Pakistanis not able 2 win single odi series against Aussies no other team can maintain this kind of stop criticizing bout them & AUSSIES ll come HARD in world t20, AUSSIES going to ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.......

Posted by mohsinmalik20 on (September 8, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

Well i have become a fan of george bailey in this series...he is so nice and straight forward gentleman.... and he is a good player too...

Posted by RyanSmith on (September 8, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

This more accurately reflects what a joke the ranking system is than what a joke the Aussie team is. Does anyone seriously consider Ireland to have a better T20 team than Australia? When Ireland or Bangladesh actually beat Australia (in any format) then someone might actually start acknowledging them as a better team. Until then the ranking system means very little.

Posted by Marcio on (September 8, 2012, 8:54 GMT)

@rahulcricket007, nor are Australia any worse than most of those high ranked team. India, SA, and England could not beat Australia the last time they played T20 series (all 1-1 draws). I wouldn't mind betting AUS will win the last game of this series as well, which would effectively mean that only the final ball of a super over separated the teams. Given how markedly unbalanced the conditions are favouring PAK, that would be a pretty good result for Australia. Only a cricket and mathematical illiterate (or a troll) would pay any attention to the T20 rankings. They are just nonsense, and the reasons have all been clearly stated.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 8:41 GMT)

This is embarrassing, if I was an Australian fan, I must die instantly after seeing this... Hope Aussies will prove that they are better than Irish men in opener of T20 WC.

Posted by faisal_baig on (September 8, 2012, 8:33 GMT)

@VivtheGreatest: "T20 rankings may be irrelevant" ... great ... wow when aussis remain on no 1 in icc ranking then it was the only and best criteria to judge a team. when aussis are sliding down now it is irrelavent ...

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 8:31 GMT)

No Team has Won or will Win on their past record. It all maters the performance / luck on that particular match. So get ready for T-20 World Cup. Best of luck to all. Let spectators enjoy the thrill.

Posted by whippersnapper on (September 8, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

When 20/20 matters I'll start caring.

Posted by PrasPunter on (September 8, 2012, 8:10 GMT)

who cares about t20 !! a load of rubbish !! My house will fall only Aus way behind in the pecking order in tests !!! No worries !!! Go Aussies !!

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

whatever all the ausie supporters have to say about the ranking one thing is sure pakistan have really showed they have the best t20 squad goin in to the cup and one for shane watson to digest ;)

Posted by imrankhan76uk on (September 8, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

I love this it.. people who say its crap system and all....guys whatever u say... mighty aussie is below IRELAND..hahhaha...enjoy and keep reminding them of this.... I bet you if it is other way round i.e. PAK or ENG below Ireland then these aussie and their media will haunt and taunt them to death

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 7:21 GMT)

Great game of nerves it was ... good for cricket we are seeing challenging games were game can swing either way.

Posted by gothetaniwha on (September 8, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

These ranking are stupid , Ireland has never beaten Aus , these are the same rankings that had Bangledesh at no 4 last month .Associate wins should not even be counted .

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (September 8, 2012, 7:19 GMT)


Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 7:15 GMT)

T 20 is a cheap format and 50 overs is not, that is rubbish. Test cricket is the pure and by far the best form of the game. T 20 is the most entertaining and exciting, and 50 overs ??????????????? Australia would say that 50 overs cricket is the real thing, why ! because they have a better record in that.

Posted by Kak-mal_Khan on (September 8, 2012, 7:10 GMT)

Australia can still win the World 20/20, rankings mean nothing in this format - anyone who counts Australia out are doing at their own peril - People forget about the 1999 World Cup, Australia were a down and out team, and if we Pakistani's talk about the '92' World Cup and Imran's cornered Tigers, it should not be forgotten of Waugh's Warriors in '99', they had to win every game after being defeated in their opening matches, but more noteably they never looked back and dominated World cricket from thereon. Their mental strength can not be questioned, yesterday they never wilted, I could not stop but think Christian may have won them the game with his athletic fielding, as I'm sure Pakistan were on the way to 170+ scoreline.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 7:10 GMT)

I really do not understand the ranking system in Cricket. India were no.1 Test team last year. They never conquered the world. They never won a test series in Australia or South Africa. As suspected they were blanked by England and Australia last year and could not hold the no.1 spot for few months. Most of the matches played by Ireland are against minnows. They never play more matches against top teams in the world, whereas the case is different with the Aussies. If we have to go by this ranking system, definitely Australia will raise in ranking and settle somewhere in top 5 by the end of World Cup T20!

Posted by getsetgopk on (September 8, 2012, 7:01 GMT)

Guess what it aint over yet LOL there is one more to go, poms must be sharpening their teeth, but seriously Auss should be proud of the effort they put, it was a great game, full house at the ring of fire.

Posted by himohan007 on (September 8, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

@George Bailey Don't under estimate Irish buddy. Where will u hide if they beat Aus in SL soil.Also don't forget the fact that u don't deserved to play in Aus Xl let alone the captaining. Oz needs Shane Watson or Huss as captain.

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (September 8, 2012, 6:49 GMT)

T20 rankings may be irrelevant and the Aussie supporters may be justifying themselves in many ways but I seriously doubt whether the team of Waugh, Gilly, Hayden, Warne and Mcgrath would have been ranked below Ireland (or any other team for that matter) in any format of the game. Oh how the mighty have fallen!!

Posted by khurramsch on (September 8, 2012, 6:36 GMT)

come on guys, t20 rankings are nothing. they are just based on 5/6 matches. i dont know why people are so worried about t20 rankings. look at big picture its less than 2 weeks for world cup.

Posted by cyberstudent on (September 8, 2012, 5:58 GMT)

good comeback by Aussies, but RAZZAQ you beauty, turned the match arround!

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

at this rate the aussies might have to play afghanistan and ireland in qualifiers for the next T20 WC in 2014 ;)

Posted by SamRoy on (September 8, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

I am impressed with George Bailey. CA must be congratulated on identifying a fine and inspirational leader of men though when he was first included there were skeptics (including me) of his ability as an international player as he did not have a good domestic record. Though CA has failed a bit to identify next generation of good test batsman (may be the cup-board is a bit empty) but in Cummins, Pattinson and Starc the next generation of world class fast bowlers. So, CA deserves some pat in the back unlike our hopeless board BCCI.

Posted by Vincent49 on (September 8, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

What sort of world cup runs annually anyway? Even odi has the prestige to run every four years. I wait each year with eager anticipation! If it was abolished annually maybe it would take some of the cheapness out of slog slog 20/20.

Posted by WildAmigo on (September 8, 2012, 5:04 GMT)

Australia is a great team no matter what..don't know why ICC made ranking system it doesn't make any sense.. Its not football and only 10 nations playing its baseless. (From Pak)

Posted by Vincent49 on (September 8, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

20/20 is a crude form of the game and in my opinion holds no status. If Australia had slipped to 10th behind Ireland in test or ODI's that would be a different story. I think my Aussie pride would take a battering. No harm here. Maybe one day Australia won't even qualify in the 20/20 ranking .. LOL

Posted by JustIPL on (September 8, 2012, 4:59 GMT)

I will request pro rankings freaks to concentrate more on the quality of game. The way Aussies played no one would ever have given thought to rankings. It was a great game of cricket today a real nail biter. It was not furestrating for the supporters of both the teams. If we just try to maintain rankings by any means then it is more defensive and negative approach that will prevail while going out brave will eventually improve rankings and supporters will enjoy games.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (September 8, 2012, 4:54 GMT)

Oopsies. So, according to the rankings, Ireland will be favourites against Australia and expected to qualify at Australia's expense. This, in spite of Ireland never beating Australia in any format...

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 4:48 GMT)

O M G Whats going on with the Au sis

Posted by razamir on (September 8, 2012, 4:40 GMT)

Well Both of teams played erxcellent cricket......nothing to take away from OZ's...but Pakistan emerged on top...if they are on fire , nobody can stop them!!!!!

Posted by sfhr on (September 8, 2012, 4:37 GMT)

Hats off to Bailey despite the defeat .... He seems like a thorough gentleman and is indeed a very good prospect for the Aussies in all forms of cricket ...

Posted by sweetspot on (September 8, 2012, 4:35 GMT)

Rankings don't tell much of a story in T20 but where are the poms to shower their glee upon this great piece of news? It's funny all right, and the rest of the cricketing world, including Aussies will wear a grin however sheepy, on this one!

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (September 8, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

Didn't realise the background behind the stats which obviously make the rankings ludicrous. Makes a great headline though! There is a World Cup imminently which is ultimately the only ranking of consequence.

Posted by Dashgar on (September 8, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

We've never cared about rankings. If Ireland want to claim they're better than us cos of this then they can go for it but Australia won't worry one bit. We're gonna try to win the T20 World Cup. This game was a good step forward for us. We will go to Sri Lanka with plenty of Asian games under our belt which will hold us in good stead. Rankings won't me a single thing when the World Cup games start.

Posted by redneck on (September 8, 2012, 3:52 GMT)

who cares what these 20/20 rankings say, who cares about 20/20 at all. all flash no substance. the ashes, 50 over world cup and the icc test mace are the only trophies of consequence for australian cricket. its not like ireland would have a hope in hell of getting near australia in any format of the game anyway! the battle for the no 1 test spot starts november 9 until then theres no international cricket on as far as im concerned!

Posted by YoPatel on (September 8, 2012, 3:44 GMT)

Mr Bailey, Leave about Ireland, teams like New Zealand, Bangladesh, West Indies are well placed in T20 ranking than Aussies!!! Its No more Aussies in Top!!!!Well Done Africa, England, India, Pakistan, Good Going!!!

Posted by jmcilhinney on (September 8, 2012, 3:43 GMT)

T20 rankings definitely need to be taken with a grain of salt. T20 is the least played of the three formats so the sample size is smaller than for either ODIs or Tests. Also, T20 is the format where luck is most likely to have an impact on the outcome. That said, I'm quite sure that Australia are not happy about being so far down the table and its got to have some sort of mental impact, however small, going into the T20 WC. I'm sure that they will try to turn it into a positive and use it as motivation to show that they can still be a force despite their poor ranking. I don't think anyone will be calling Australia any sort of favourite going into the tournament but I wouldn't be writing them off either. It would only take a couple of good innings from someone like Warner, Wade or Watson, all of whom are capable, to pick some victories. The key may be the bowling and how countries like Australia, England and SA adapt to more spin-friendly conditions.

Posted by Brumby90 on (September 8, 2012, 3:11 GMT)

Shows exactly what a joke the ICC rankings system is. I doubt Australia will be concerned about being ranked low in a game where skill and technique means little. 20/20 allows weak cricketers to shine for a couple of overs. Give me a test match any day.

Posted by   on (September 8, 2012, 3:10 GMT)

really, does anyone even care? I'd be concerned if this happened in tests )or even odis).

Posted by Marcio on (September 8, 2012, 3:07 GMT)

Overall it was a good performance, and really they should have won it in the end. But Pakistan play well in their home conditions. Australia are improving in these conditions, so all this can only be good. These are practice games after all, and the idea is to give everyone a run. The T20 rankings are too silly to bother with. I'm sure Bailey and the AUS team couldn't care less, and it's only journalists looking for a story who even mention it.

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