Pakistan v England 2011-12

Bresnan ruled out of Test series

Andrew McGlashan

January 9, 2012

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Tim Bresnan is England's main injury concern, Dubai, January 6, 2012
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Tim Bresnan, the England pace-bowling allrounder, has been ruled out of the Test series against Pakistan after failing to recover from the elbow surgery he underwent before Christmas. The news has come as a major surprise to the England camp even though Bresnan sat out the first warm-up match.

He travelled with the squad to the UAE last week but was not able to play against a ICC Combined XI and at the end of the match the decision was taken to send him home. His absence is a significant blow for England as he is able to get the ball to reverse-swing, which is set to be a key weapon in the Test series, and also adds to the team's formidable lower-order strength.

"Bresnan tried to bowl today, having had an injection and a good rest," Andrew Strauss, the England captain, said. "I think we were all expecting him to be absolutely fine. But it's very painful - and given that, he's probably not going to be able to play for two or three weeks."

England have won the 10 Tests that Bresnan has played. Having played a key part in the Ashes series he missed the start of the last English season with a calf problem. He initially suffered the injury in the one-day series in Australia before a recurrence during a Championship match against Hampshire. He returned to the side after Chris Tremlett was injured against India. During his comeback match at Trent Bridge he hit 90 and took 5 for 48 . He went on to take nine more wickets in the series against India and score another half-century.

"I'm obviously gutted not to have an opportunity to play in the Test series," Bresnan said, "but I knew that looking at my rehabilitation programme it was always going to be touch and go to get me ready for the series. I want to wish the squad all very best and the priority for me now is to get myself ready for the one-day series in February."

Graham Onions travelled with the team to the UAE as a reserve member of the squad and has now been elevated to a permanent member. Steven Finn, who played against the ICC XI, will be the favourite to replace Bresnan in the Test line up.

Meanwhile, Graeme Swann, the England offspinner, did not field on the final morning of the match against the ICC XI after reporting some muscle soreness in his leg and will be sent for a scan, while Tremlett has been suffering from an eye infection during the early days of the tour and will visit a doctor.

Matt Prior, the Test wicketkeeper, missed the ICC XI match with a bruised finger but Strauss confirmed he will be able to play the second warm-up game on Wednesday.

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Posted by Harry_Kool on (January 12, 2012, 2:05 GMT)

@JG2704. Nice (& some humorous) write ups, but I got to tell you, your inteliigent responses are raising the standard levels of posts mostly written by the logically challenged. Chuckles.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 11, 2012, 19:50 GMT)

@Gupta.Ankur on (January 10 2012, 03:06 AM GMT) - Still bitter I see. How's your lads doing by the way? Well done for pointing out that Pakistan won in 2006 which was over 5 years ago and the tour before that - who won that series ? Or does your memory only go back that far when you remember India doing well? If your theory is correct , how come Swann (who had a bad OD tour to India) hasn't pulled out or how come Broad who could conveniently say he has relapsed hasn't pulled out? I suppose what we could do is keep him out there and then boo about him being injured claiming that he's injured but we'd rather win then make feeble excuses for losing. Guess we're all different.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 11, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

@Abdullah Shaikh - Thanks for the comms. Don't agree with all of them but at least it's not the rubbish we've had from others. I'm a big fan of Broad and I'm pretty sure he does take care of his fitness but maybe his temperament contributes towards his injuries in that I think he can over exert himself. However he is an absolute warrior and the way he has come back to form in the last year has been a mark of the man. Also he has played valuable innings when England have been struggling in tests like vs India last year and Pak in 2010. It's much harder to score runs when your team is under pressure than when the top order have run the fielders ragged As for Swann - he has had a lame time as a whole , but vs Sri Lanka - look at the bowling stats in the 2nd inns of the test we won. Re Anderson , I will say he's a far improved bowler from 3 years ago - the last time he played in SC.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 11, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@igorolman on (January 10 2012, 00:37 AM GMT) re Bresnan in your earlier comms - you may have a point in that he offers deeper batting than Finn and Tremlett and Onions and a different style of bowling - maybe more suited to SC. However re Morgan - should he be the man in possession and Flower is slightly going against his own selection policy. The reason I say this is that when one of our bowlers gets injured he'll have to fight his way back into the side and usually have to wait his turn. Being that Morgan was injured for the back end of the India test series and Bopara came in and did no lesser job , surely if he applies the same to his batting as he does the bowling Bopara should get the nod. Personally I'm not convinced by either in test matches and would rather play an extra bowler but don't see England doing this. Also Bopara could bowl a few overs and lessen the other bowlers workloads

Posted by JG2704 on (January 11, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

g.narsimha on (January 10 2012, 05:03 AM GMT) - aw - play the violins in sympathy for Indian cricket. Life is so unfair. By the way no one dragged you on to these England related threads and at least we have the good grace to admit when we are beaten rather than get the excuse book out. Re the last 3 test series in India your guys won 2 of them by 1-0 and the other was drawn. If that equals humiliation in your books I hate to think of how you'd describe India's form in tests on their recent travels. And yes we got thrashed 5-0 in India in the OD series but we admit we were awful on that tour and that we are at best inconsistent in that format

Posted by JG2704 on (January 11, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler on (January 10 2012, 10:03 AM GMT) Yeah but those thrashings don't count. Injuries,transitional phase , unsuitable conditions etc etc.

Posted by RJHB on (January 11, 2012, 5:29 GMT)

Interesting comments here, if rather nutty some of them! Bresnan is a significant blow for England, as losing anyone who can bowl reverse is when touring Asia. It will be very interesting to watch this series to see how England goes in more unfamiliar conditions and how the likes of Tremlett and Finn and Broad cope without pitches with bounce and much sideways movement in them. I'm not saying they'll struggle necessarily, but the results should be significant. Pretty sure the England batsmen will enjoy the pitches though. And really it is a bit rich for subcontinental fans to be carrying on about how the likes of Australia, ENgland and SA will struggle on pitches in India and SL when those two teams keep getting thrashed away from home! Australia did just beat SL in SL and only two years ago India needed a miracle tail end stand to beat a very average Aussie team at Mohali. Face it, the era of Asian test success is over, SL have already slid into the depths, India following quickly!

Posted by 5wombats on (January 10, 2012, 23:17 GMT)

@RandyOZ - give it a rest.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (January 10, 2012, 23:13 GMT)

2011 has been a bad year for me as an Indian fan barring our World Cup success and some personal success of my favourite player Dravid. 2012 is turning out to be the same with our team getting smashed at the hands of Aussies, as we speak. I hope at least Pakistan gives me something to cheer about in this year by defeating England. I think England will take the series with a lot of fight from our neigbours. But I whole heartedly want to be proven wrong. Allah bless each and every member of our neighbour's team and their Captain Misbah. Special wishes to Younis Bhai - from across the border.

Posted by RandyOZ on (January 10, 2012, 22:26 GMT)

One would be wise to take what @jmcilhinney and @landl47 say with a grain of salt. After the former thought Warne played in the last Ashes series at Adelaide and the latter thinks AB Field and the Gabba are the same thing, their lack of cricketing knowledge has become blatantly obvious.

Posted by 5wombats on (January 10, 2012, 20:47 GMT)

Some of the posts on this string are ABSOLUTELY HYSTERICAL! For heaven's sake - it's an England bowler and he's going home; SO WHAT! @Valavan - you really are doing a star turn! ROFL! We've got tears rolling down our whiskers!...."Excuse makers, go and discover excuses and post......" ha ha! @ shamlaatu on (January 10 2012, 16:08 PM GMT) your post is priceless too! "... These folks are lurking around with a watery mouth to see...." Lurking around with a watery mouth - that is side-splittingly funny!!! ha ha ha! We are literally crying with laughter! Haven't laughed this much in ages! I love this website! Ah hah ha! Please pplease publish!

Posted by Just_be_fair on (January 10, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

Indian battsmen are bullies of flat tracks, they always perform well in India and subcontinent. Whenever they goes out of sub continent and plays on bouncy and seeming pitches their all ''greatness'' disappears and they start shaking. Last England tour and current Australia tour are crystal clear examples. Can any one tell us any example of India ever won any test series in Australia, England or South Aferica? Fact of the matter is that Indian batsmen are FLAT TRACK BULLIES.

Posted by BarmyIan on (January 10, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

They've brought Onions in as cover, who is a better bowler than Bresnan anyway!

Posted by jonnybtestmatch on (January 10, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

What is wrong with the Indian fans and this England team. No English fans have suggested that our sub continent record has not been poor, but that was because we were simply a poor side, in all conditions. We are now a quality test side and have not had the chance to prove this in test matches in recent times. Yes we are poor in ODI'S but I am fully confident that we could beat India at home at the moment. Really Indian fans are clinging on to the last remnants of a classy side. Pak have the best bowling lineup in the sub cont by a mile. India can't bowl home or away. FACT

Posted by nzcricket174 on (January 10, 2012, 16:30 GMT)

unluckily for england it doesn't rain often in the UAE

Posted by AlanHarrison on (January 10, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

@ Giovaughn Wilson: I didn't underrate Bresnan, only said he's not the best player England have ever had. Hope you can accept that. Otherwise I agree with you.

Posted by shamlaatu on (January 10, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

@ Tom Bowler ,,,, you know there is old saying of "sour grapes" ... These folks are lurking around with a watery mouth to see and yearn how England has been deservingly the No 1 team, and how Pakistan has fought back after hitting the rock bottom. Both teams are in good form, England has the edge but Pak can fight back. I hope Indian fans will enjoy seeing some hard fought quality cricket, something that they haven't experienced in quite a while.

Posted by jonnybtestmatch on (January 10, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

Anyone who is claiming Eng are poor in the sub continent and refer to ODI's need to realise that we are playing a test series. Eng are not a good ODI side and not many fans will claim this. Primarily Eng fans don't care about ODI cricket if the test side perfoms. I think this ENG team will show everyone they mean buisness and can beat any test team in any conditions.

Posted by Harry_Kool on (January 10, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler. Have to agree with you man. Your team has a stack of high quality bowlers without impact as demonstrated last Ashes against us. @Gupta.Ankur, you been quiet on the Aussie front? I seem to recall you boasting with some huge statements on how you were going to give us a thrashing. So far, down 2-0 & counting. So you hop over here tossing barbs at a team that totally trashed your team with record winning margins. England may lose, who knows, but you can be sure they won't get thrashed like the your former #1 (cough) team did in England last year. I mean, come on, they got owned by the Poms!

Posted by bumsonseats on (January 10, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

stjohn what are you on about the 2 mentioned guys were injured playing cricket. how is that been managed better and what lessons are england to learn from that. we do manage our bowlers, not selecting for certain games if you were to check results of the last few years you could see that. up to this period you have not had the bowlers to rest or rotate . make sure brain is in gear before you speak. dpk

Posted by   on (January 10, 2012, 14:14 GMT)

the pakistani team has won 6 series in a row and england will just maket it 7.

Posted by 5wombats on (January 10, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

@Valavan on (January 09 2012, 23:16 PM GMT); "Look here all siddharth_r2001 and kavindeven started howling here...". We loved that post!!! ROFL!!! Bresnan is going home because he's not fit to play. That's all! There's really nothing else in this story! india fans get a grip!

Posted by satish619chandar on (January 10, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler : Paying attention to any game is fine.. It doesn't necessarily mean you should comment only on the games your country participates.. Better if you guys too discuss abt cricket where the focus deserves rather than commenting on other factors..

Posted by   on (January 10, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

best of luck pakistan team

Posted by AlanHarrison on (January 10, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@ Giovaughn Wilson; I wasn't aware that I was underrating Bresnan. All I said was, that statistic about appearing in victories notwithstanding, he is "hardly the best player England have ever had". If you want to suggest I am being unfair to bresnan you'll have to demosntrate that he is better than S.F. Barnes, Jack Hobbs, Wally Hammond, Len Hutton and Fred Trueman, etc. As I said, Bresnan has done well in some of his tests, but England's job has been made easier by the fact that even when they were playing India and Australia in those matches, who are tough opponents on paper, those opponents have been demoralised. @ siddharth_r2001 if you think English seamers are always "fit and raring to go" when the series is to be played in Australia, or in England against Australia, you have a short memory. Some of us however remember the series of 1989, 1994 and 2002, when said seamers were dropping like flies. @frazell surely this is negative thinking for a no.1 side in the world

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (January 10, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

England does not deserve to be No.1. They are lions in their own den and will easily get whitewashed in subcontinent. Surely Pakistan will give them the much needed taste of whipping. Go Pakistan do it! Support from India...

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 10, 2012, 11:53 GMT)

@Gupta.Ankur & @ Kookaburra. FYI, the UAE are on the Arabian Peninsular! Hell's teeth, didn't you learn anything in your geography lessons? The UAE is quite a way from the subcontinent - like Sri-Lanka from Oz, say. As for England's forthcoming series there, expect a tight series and one that England should win on the basis of having a more reliable (i.e.tried and proven) - batting line-up and sharpness in the field that Pakistan is unlikely to match. Oh, England's attack is pretty formidable too - expect them to get as much out of the pitch as there is in it. Please get your apologies and sundry reasons for Pakistan coming up short ready. I have a feeling that you may need them!

Posted by   on (January 10, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler i was waiting for this, unfortunately they are almost in a win win position in fact some of the indian fans must really be confussed who to support in this series...

Posted by HankasHarry on (January 10, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

IMO Bresnan was an average bowler who performed in favourable conditions, nothing more. Pure pace gets you results on any surface, so might not be a bad idea to get Finn in. It will be interesting to see how Eng perform in this series, as its not subcontinent conditions & also not green-pitch conditions. A bit in between.

Posted by yorkshirematt on (January 10, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

@Gupta.Ankur Please see my earlier comment regarding Bresnan and the fact that he bowls well with the old ball and can get something out of lifeless pitches. I think I am better qualified to talk about Bresnan than you, as a regular at Headingley. It annoys me when a Yorkshire player is criticised by people who don't know anything about them or have never seen them play.

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (January 10, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Amazing really that fans of a team with an away record of six successive thrashings and counting would choose to draw attention to themselves in a discussion concerning the two teams with the best form in Test cricket.

Posted by Valavan on (January 10, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

@g.narsimha, England didnt fare good only in India, that too they lost 1 test each in 2001 and 2008, well ye they lost to india, SA, Australia in the last decade. We didnt come here to compare our supermacy, btw why some dodgy indian supporters still run down us. check Match series archive, we havent lost in NZ in the last 10 years, of course we fared much better in Windies in the last decade, we have won there 3 - 0 in 2004. In subcontinent other than India, we have won in 2001 in SL and Pakistan. ( England was running a rough patch since 1993 - 2003), eventhough we managed series wins at Pak, SL and NZ, drew a series in SA,WI. i think better you could check all math series archive before commenting ignorantly about England. We still believe subcontinent is going to be a big test for us. We didnt say as your counterpart expected 4 - 0 in england and australia. cricinfo please publish

Posted by Valavan on (January 10, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

@Gupta.Ankur, why are you here, dont you have more excuses to be given in Ind vs Australia, Ye you remember 2006 which is 5 years ago, if you remember that, you must be remembering 2001, where Nasser upstaged Pakistan in 2001. But those are past, now is what is important, do you remember what was at SCG some days ago, Indian bowling lineup managed 4 wickets, but the inexperienced bowling lineup managed 20 wickets against so called great batters. OK. cricinfo please publish

Posted by jim152 on (January 10, 2012, 8:29 GMT)

Honestly, why do the comments on every article end up so boring and repetitive? Regardless of what the article is about, it ends up with manic Indian fans telling everyone how good their side is and how England are going to lose whatever series it is, and manic England fans believing their side is going to whitewash everyone, and each set of biased fans reading far too much into a single session or a single piece of news and turning it into a whitewash prediction. Home advantage is a significant asset for every team in the world : no-one is truly the same team away from home that they are at home. England or India playing away from their own familiar conditions are never the same proposition but both are very strong teams. Lets hope for a close series played in the right spirit.

Posted by   on (January 10, 2012, 8:28 GMT)

It will be a good contest. With or without bresnan

Posted by StJohn on (January 10, 2012, 8:19 GMT)

It sounds to me like possibly overburdening players again for Bresnan to worry about getting fit for some pointless, instantly forgotten one-day series in February. Perhaps England can learn some lessons from the way that Australia are handling Pattinson's and Cummins's injuries?

Posted by Kookaburra on (January 10, 2012, 7:12 GMT)

Eng is a weak team. They are no. 1 only cuz they haven't played in subcontinent conditions. Pakistan will win the series 2-0.

Posted by sadfighter on (January 10, 2012, 6:22 GMT)

Pakistan will take benefit from this......

Posted by Khanned22 on (January 10, 2012, 6:12 GMT)

We can expect gud result frm pakistan coz his last year record is good as team performance although they dont have star player.....

Whatever who will be winner but we can expect gud cricket from both team.

Posted by g.narsimha on (January 10, 2012, 5:03 GMT)

RURI-We are not in the habit of unneccesrily poking in others affars ,just 2or 3 indians comented on this page , since u have dragged us in this way , i enclined to coment now , we never forget the 4-0 drubbing in your own back yard , just one good show in decades against an opponent ,who humiliated u in home &awayover the years ,at present we have problems ,rebuilding process will start,as during the last couple of years our team had made visits to all major cricketing nations , such as nz, sa, wi, eng, & now in aus , only fared badly in eng & aus , now its your turn to show the world that you are worthy no=i , for that u will have to perform in uae& sub continent , lets see whether the present team is deferent from the erlier ones ,whose pathetic performance in this part of the world does nt warants elobrations ,

Posted by Cricampion on (January 10, 2012, 4:33 GMT)

@igorolman: India beating England was not only because India is world cup winners but more so because the series was played in India. We all know what England did to them earlier in England, and this is exactly what Australia is planning to do now. Logically speaking Pakistan beating the no. 1 team is not possible and I think Pakistan may loose the England series, but trust me, it won't be as bad as India/Australia results.

Posted by koldmeat on (January 10, 2012, 3:46 GMT)

England will be whitewashed by Pakistan in this series.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (January 10, 2012, 3:06 GMT)

The moment england have to travel ton sub-continent they develop a cold feet.....Bresnan knows he wont get any green custom made pitches for him here...

I still remember in 2006 where they toured Pakistan and india back to back and lost 7-8 players......

England will as usual lose very badly in sub-continent...

Posted by yeh_cheezzz on (January 10, 2012, 2:01 GMT)

@valavan I am also very keen to know and see how Pakistan will react to the big teams both teams must be under pressure, England because of their status and Pakistan after last year's success... to be more clear why everyone is saying Pakistan is proving to be a good team is also because how they have lifted themselves from the disasters and believe me there are not many teams who can survive such jolts one after another and yet be comparable with the teams from the top of the table.. Good Luck to England and Pakistan... I hope it will be some contest to watch...

Posted by igorolman on (January 10, 2012, 0:37 GMT)

@orangtan: are you serious? Pakistan at the moment are in the same state as England were under Nasser Hussain - tough to beat. But they have a real problem putting teams away, let alone a settled, confident, *winning* team like England. For anyone who keeps banging on about India beating England 5-0 in the recent ODIs - that's why India are World Cup winners, and England are the #1 Test team (I couldn't give tuppence for T20, you may as well toss a coin). I know which I'd rather be. @YorkshirePudding: Surely Morgan? He's the man in possession, and the Andys seem to value continuity above all else. And besides, Bopara has distinctly underwhelmed since WI '09 - he's just the 'next cab in line', nothing more. I'd have ditched him and gone with any of these younger batsmen we keep hearing about - Hildreth, Taylor etc - for the experience, since are England going to drop a batsman during such a short series? No sirree.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (January 10, 2012, 0:28 GMT)

He'll be missed more for his batting than his bowling. Eng won't be able to get out of sticky situations cause by batting collapse anymore.

Posted by drlimpel on (January 10, 2012, 0:14 GMT)

Makes no difference at all. Bresnan doesn't have a great track record against Pakistan anyway. The last time Eng and Pak squared off in Dubai for a t20 series Bresnan got whipped all over the park by Abdur Razzaq. Apparently he was trying to bowl "reverse-swinging" yorkers which only translated into ankle height full tosses and half volleys. So much for his 'reverse-swinging' prowess. Finn would certainly have been a better choice even if he was not injured.

Posted by orangtan on (January 9, 2012, 23:23 GMT)

@freo75, the allusion to "subcontinent" to include UAE is used by posters to indicate UAE's status as Pakistan's home ground, and, in fact, the climate and pitches are similar. By the way , you mean "peninsula" not "peninsular", don't you ?

Posted by Valavan on (January 9, 2012, 23:22 GMT)

@orangatan, England doesnt rely on individuals, Look at all their wins it was team effort, One bresnan cannot make up England Team. Pakistan line up will be tested anyways as apart from SL, they didnt face any decent opposition, Even in Windies they lost one test, If anyone calling UAE as subcontinent, can learn some history and geography before posting here, Pak or Aus will have a long way to go to reach the top. Mind all, we have a team, we dont have superstars (we dont need them). We will produce the best to justify our Test status. Good luck to PAK too. cricinfo pleae publish

Posted by Valavan on (January 9, 2012, 23:16 GMT)

Look here all siddharth_r2001 and kavindeven started howling here. We wont make excuses like indians did hyping Zaheer khan , harbajan singh and so on. You have more problems to sort out in Australia, Good to see Australia following english way of trapping the so called World beaters to cannon fodders. How long you talk, Indians used to speak about ODIs when Tests are played. That shows their commitment to the article, Good luck English boys, with or without Bresnan, we must prove a point here. More heartbreak for Indian fans than Pak fans, if england comes triumphant. Excuse makers, go and discover excuses and post in India vs Australia forum. cricinfo please publish.

Posted by RandyOZ on (January 9, 2012, 23:09 GMT)

No great loss this guy would get carted in the subcontinent as per usual. Another Englishman out of the squad though will make place for another import, Dernbach.

Posted by freo75 on (January 9, 2012, 22:31 GMT)

Call me pedantic but can people stop referring to the UAE as being in the subcontinent? The Indian subcontinent comprises India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh, and does not include the Arabian peninsular.

Posted by orangtan on (January 9, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

Breesnan'a absence is just going to make things even easier for Pakistan. I predict they will achieve a clean sweep of all the matches, and England will find that their # 1 position is as short-lived as India's was. Other things being equal, Pakistan and Australia will emerge as top dogs over the next few years.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 9, 2012, 22:16 GMT)

@siddharth_r2001 on (January 09 2012, 13:45 PM GMT) Very childish/ uneducated comments. Anderson was rested and if you saw how Jimmy performed in the OD series vs Australia and in the WC you will understand why. Why risk any burnout in a comparative meaningless OD series after what happened to him after the Ashes in Australia? It's good that they are learning lessons. If your deluded theory is right then why aren't Broad and Swann also going home. ? Swann in particular as he had a rough time in the ODIs in India. We called up Onions because Bres and Broad were carrying injuries. I suppose what we could do is have some half fit players out there and then have the ready made excuses for underperforming - ring any bells? and@Icing Sugar Honey on (January 09 2012, 14:03 PM GMT)/ Kavindeven on (January 09 2012, 15:06 PM GMT) What horribly vulgar comments to say about a proud 100% cricketer

Posted by JG2704 on (January 9, 2012, 22:15 GMT)

@wolf777 on (January 09 2012, 19:16 PM GMT) Not sure if this was meant to be a dig but that is another reason why they could go for 5 bowlers. If a batsman breaks down you'd still have 4 batsmen plus Prior plus Broad,Swann. If a bowler breaks down during a match you have 3 bowlers and if the bowler is a paceman you have 2 pace bowlers.

Posted by DocBindra on (January 9, 2012, 21:55 GMT)

One of many to bite the dust I'm sure, anyone remember a English tour to the subcontinent when they actually survived the whole tour intact? Talented but very very fragile players especially the bowlers. He obviously must have been cleared by the team of doctors to even make the tour, oh well, nothing new. I expect a procession, I really do. Not saying it mockingly, just a fact.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 20:54 GMT)

As far as batting is concerned England have have a lot of talent. competition is heavy in the batting department. Last year Swan was impressive against Pak. but this year it is a different team. Also swan did not impress against India and Lanka. Have to see if the present lot of batsmen can handle Swan better. Also Monty is a very good left arm spinner. i think it will be a good competition, though England have an edge on the basis of form and Rankings. Though Pak are also in form.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 20:49 GMT)

I feel the most dangerous player for england at the moment is S.Broad. He is a useful bat as well. only problem with Broady is his temperament. he should learn to control his emotions. he got away lightly when he threw the ball at Zulqarnain Haider and fractured his thumb. Also broady is very injury prone. He should take care of his fitness.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (January 9, 2012, 20:32 GMT)

@KashifMuneer, thats pretty much te same team I have thought of for england, there is only a question about Morgan or Bopara for the 6th Batting place. Its possible Both will play in the next warm up game to give the coaches an Idea of how things stand. Personally I think the only change will be Tremlett or Finn rather than Bresnan, Finn has raw pace but can be a little wayward, Tremlett gets some good steep bounce with a bit of movement even on slowish wickets, so its anyones guess.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 20:09 GMT)

Bresnan is a useful player specially with his batting abilities. But at present England have a lot of options in the fast bowling department. The best advantage that they have in the UAE series is that in any case it is going to be a spinner dominated series. So only two fast bowlers have to be picked i think Broad & Tremlet/Finn should be the pair, though the team management may be tempted to play Anderson with Broad. Though i personally feel Anderson has a great track record in English conditions but his figures are pathetic in Asian subcontinent conditions and UAE conditions are similar to india/pak/lanka tracks.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 19:41 GMT)

i am surprised that im almost the only one who thinks that bresnan was probably one of the most dangerous bowlers for england a. coz of his previous record in the SC b. his style of bowling is similar to the SC bowlers... also i would really be surprised if he would fake an injury as it would have been easier for england to say he is being rested or had to go home for personal reasons if that was the case...

Posted by Trickstar on (January 9, 2012, 19:33 GMT)

@Masood Ahmad Really? give it a rest your showing yourself up mate, which excuses are these. you mean the ones that are made by the opposition fans when England smash them, just like it will be when they do the same to Pakistan, who suddenly really rate themselves after winning against a couple of bottom ranked teams,LOL. Got to laugh at all the other fans, desperately trying to take something out of this performance, the first they've played in months bur still good enough to role a half decent side over in 3 days. Whatever makes them feel better though LOL.

Posted by KashifMuneer on (January 9, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

I don't know why people think Eng would play 5 bowlers. I think Eng team will be 1.Strauss 2.Cook 3.Trott 4.Pietersen 5.Bell 6.Morgan 7.Prior 8.Broad 9.Swann 10.Anderson 11.Finn Pak team will probably be 1.Taufeeq 2.Hafeez 3.Azhar 4.Younus 5.Misbah 6. Akaml/Shafiq 7.Adnan Akmal 8.Rehman 9.Ajmal 10.Gul 11.Wahab Riaz/Junaid Khan

Posted by wolf777 on (January 9, 2012, 19:16 GMT)

England mostly play with three bowlers just like India. No wonder their fast bolers are in and out of rehab just like India...

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (January 9, 2012, 19:13 GMT)

@KarachiKid: Do your research. Bresnan is one of the most consistent bowlers of lines and lengths, look at his pitch maps for the last year. He could well pip many bowlers in the world right now as the most consistent over the last year. There's facts, and there's opinions people make up in their home and convince themselves they're right...

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 18:48 GMT)

@ Alan Harrison . both Bresnan's strike rate & bowling average is much higher vs West Indies & Bangladesh than India & Australia. In Fact the order of series he has played is WI then Bang then Aus & then India. in this order the trend has been that his strike rate & bowling average has decreased from series to series. that suggests that he has either been improving as he went along or that the quality of opposition has decreased. more than likely its the former so it is kinda unfair to underrate Bresnan. Chances are his next series will be vs Sri Lanka which is a team in decline but more than likely his win streak will end there as it is difficult to win in Sri Lanka.

Posted by Rolling_in_The_Deep on (January 9, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

One man , Pak fans should be wary of is English Spin Bowling Coach Mushtaq Ahmed who not only knows the spin varieties of Pak Bowling but also give tips to English batsmen to Play them well. Do not get surprised if Hafeez, Ajmal or AR doesnt get much success.. Waiting for Saed Ajmals "Teesra" delivery in this series.That can be handful.. If Pak can manage to draw this series, this will be a moral victory for them..

Posted by JG2704 on (January 9, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

@frazell on (January 09 2012, 13:56 PM GMT) Yes I agree. This will make England more reluctant to play a 5 man bowling attack although I'd still like to see it.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 9, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

Too many trashy comments as usual. From an England point of view it's a shame but the good thing is that we have depth on seam bowling.It's a shame for Bresnan but I'm guessing it's the same for all the England bowlers in that one gets injured , another comes in and does a great job and then the injured player has to wait until another injury occurs before he gets another chance. So bad luck to Tim who when fully fit again will be hoping for an injury to another one of our pacemen.

Posted by 200ondebut on (January 9, 2012, 18:33 GMT)

Big blow for Bres and does cut back Englands options to play 5 bowlers. Fortunately the replacements are equally strong performers with the ball (if not the bat)

Posted by igorolman on (January 9, 2012, 18:27 GMT)

I don't agree with most of the posters here, I think this is a bad blow for England. I think Bresnan is the most irreplaceable of the seamers, because a) he has great control, b) is the most parsimonious, c) looks the most robust - I would trust him to bowl a long thankless spell while Swann worked away at the other end and, of course d) can actually bat a bit, unlike Finn/Tremlett/Onions who are bidding to replace him. I still think it will be very close, I stick by 1-1, but our solid 20-overs-a-day man has gone, and that might mean using Anderson and Broad in longer spells than we want, and hence them becoming less productive (check Steyn's average spell length to see what I mean).

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 18:19 GMT)

Bresnan is becoming a bit injury prone... that's something that we need to look at if we want him to carry on playing a part (if not 1st 11) in all 3 formats maybe it's time to blood some young seam bowlers in ODIs at Bresnan's expense (Woakes, Harris, Meaker, Topley, etc.)

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 9, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

It seems to me that this unfortunate set-back for Bres means that Finn will play in the tests, subject to a good show in the next warm-up game. He won't let England down either. Although Tremlett is suffering from an eye-infection, let's hope he gets a game too as his lay-off has been protracted. England needs all its front-liners with a match under their belts. Eoin Morgan is a small cause for concern as I believe that his ability to score quickly and heavily against the spinners in the middle order is important, if not crucial. Good to see that Steve Davies had a sound game (no byes and no reported drops). I wonder if he'll be considered at some point.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (January 9, 2012, 18:10 GMT)

That is very bad luck. Recently though England have been able to cover for injuries so hopefully Finnor Tremlett will do just as well. i would advise being very careful to anyone writing Tremlett off before the series has started.The pitches may be flat but he has evoked comparisons with such as Ambrose-remember him??-and Glenn McGrath.He is very much a bowler to be reckoned with. as for the Indians still laughing at our side- you are laughing from the other side of your faces, surely OR do you need reminding of your plight again????!!! I'd be praying for a rapid return for Kumar.P just to lend a bit of sobriety to the situation.

Posted by KarachiKid on (January 9, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

I dont think England will miss him much as English bowlers are very disciplined and thats what really counts against Pakistan. Though Pakistan are improving, and though I wish and pray that we win, I have to say England are favourites by some distance. Our batting depends on Younus and Misbah, while the rest cannot play are really long innings. I hope I am proven wrong by Hafeez, Azhar and Shafiq. Lets see.

Posted by spence1324 on (January 9, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Gutted for tim bresnan,but no panic when you have arguably the quickest bowler in world cricket in reserve (Finn).

Posted by Ruri on (January 9, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

To the Indian fans trolling an England v Pakistan series.... How was the 4-0, and the current 2-0? Look at your own house before you mock us (even before the matches start!) How is Harbhajan's stomach injury holding out? And Bresnan would be among our best on these conditions, a pity we lost him. Capable bat, and the second best reverse swinger in the English side. However, Anderson, Broad and Finn are no pushovers. With Tremlett and Onions still around, we have a decent attack, but more importantly, a very disciplined attack.

Posted by WeeBee on (January 9, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

well ... well ... see ... indians couldnt adjust in Australia, atleast no one got injured. But its quite odd for English players to adjust in that UAE climate. Well .. lets see who is going to be next during the series.

Posted by sajjad.kernel on (January 9, 2012, 17:19 GMT)

@jonnybtestmatch ..... atleast Pak batsman are not flat track batsman and are not helplessly smacked around for 6-1 ODI series defeat after a test win and certainly Pak batsman are far better than indian who can only play at mumbai or may be chennai rest of the places indian are just fake and create mockery of cricket whenever they step into ring outside of india.....open your eyes while watching cricket

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (January 9, 2012, 17:19 GMT)

Shame for Bresnan and England as he has the ability to pose batsmen problems on dead tracks. Also his batting would have given us the option of promoting Prior to six and playing five bowlers, Broad and Swann at seven and eight doesn't look desperately robust to me. Given the fierce competition for bowling spots whichever one of Tremlett, Finn and Onions gets the game they will have a massive incentive to perform.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

There you go ... that's start of an other round of execused by England. Because we are playing away, because we had some injuries, because it's too hot there, because .... because ....

Come on England ... think beyond "Because".

Posted by Touseef117 on (January 9, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

@jonnybtestmatch............dont u worry. these micky mouse batsmen would be enough to destroy you bowling lineup......inshallah...........

Posted by cricket_fan_1980 on (January 9, 2012, 16:33 GMT)

Eye infection, sore leg, bruised elbow, runny nose etc etc, come on lads lets toughen up a bit shall we, this is professional sport, not sunday 5-aside. Bresnan's omission is probably irrelevant to Pakistan, he would have been the least of the threats. There are better bowlers in the English side. It will be demoralizing for the England camp though, and that will play on their spirits. England have delivered a really shoddy performance in the first warm up game, lets see what they can display against the PCB XI in a few days. I expected more flair from the "No. 1" side...

Posted by AlanHarrison on (January 9, 2012, 16:21 GMT)

It is very odd how Bresnan's test career has evolved. He has now played in ten tests and England have won all of them, the best start by any England player in history. While he has played well in some of those games, he's hardly the best player England have ever had. He just happens to have played matches against relatively easy opponents (Bangladesh, West Indies), or good teams that have been demoralised and were losing heavily (India and Australia). Now a series comes along in difficult conditions against an opponent in an upbeat frame of mind, and he is injured. I am not suggest that there is anything amiss or that Bresnan is "avoiding" anyone, but it's just striking. Owing to this curiosity, Bresnan might even go on to challenge Adam Gilchrist's record of playing in 15 or 16 consecutive test victories at the start of his career.

Posted by KashifMuneer on (January 9, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

@jonny - I don't think Pak batsmen are mickey mouse. Eng have a stronger batting line-up but they struggled against Irish and Afghan bowling so who is to say what can happen in the game. Eng will need to perform better with the bat in a week's time.

Bresnan injury weakens the Eng tail somewhat although it is still pretty handy to have Broad in the team. I'm sure Pak tail will wag a bit as well with Ajmal and Rehman in it. I think Eng were always going to play just 4 bowlers. On paper Eng have a stronger batting line-up but the associates showed that Eng can be shot out too. Should be a close contest.

Posted by shamlaatu on (January 9, 2012, 16:10 GMT)

@Sher Mal,,, "Pakistan needs to play aggressive cricket" . I think this is where you forgot who our captain is, what's his mindset and what did he say in a recent statement? I agree with rest of what u said.

Posted by Guernica on (January 9, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

Shame but I can see Bres becoming another one like Flintoff and Ryan Harris - a big lad who bowls fast, putting too much strain on his body and therefore always battling with injury. Hope that's not the case.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

Well it always happens... when ever England team visits the subcontinent, there players start getting ingured... i dont know what is the real reason. I hope Pakistan get to play with the best England team. and make most of the opertunity to prove there strength

Posted by landl47 on (January 9, 2012, 15:45 GMT)

Too bad for Bresnan, though I'm not sure he would have been first choice anyway. If England play 6 batsmen plus Prior, then the best 4 bowlers must be chosen and Bresnan might have missed out to either Finn or Tremlett. Hopefully Bresnan will be ready for the Sri Lankan tour. @siddarth and Icing Sugar, anyone who knows Bresnan will tell you that he is the last person in the world to shy away from a challenge. I'll be charitable and put it down to the fact that you don't know much about cricket or the people who play it.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 15:21 GMT)

Without entering a blame game, this news won't make one iota of difference to Pakistan. Pakistan is playing good sensible cricket at the moment. That's exactly what Pakistan should focus on regardless who's coming or going out of the England squad. Pakistan should answer the cynics and critics with a solid performance. Pakistan has some scores to settle. Pakistan needs to play aggressive cricket and take the horn by its bulls. Pakistan doesn't require any changes.

On a different note, a lot of pleasant and awful things are going to be said before and during the series. Pakistani management and players need to remain cautious. After all, this a series between two old foes. Nonetheless, Pakistan should take a lot of pride and confidence from their current performance. Pakistan has the means and ability to win the series.

Bowling is Pakistan's strength. Batting is quite balanced, but needs improving. Pakistan has the ability to deliver a series win. Best of luck to them.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (January 9, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

@siddharth_r2001, unlike indian bowlers (Bhaji) the england lads dont tend to fake injury as an excuse for getting smacked around the park. As for the Anderson Jibe, at not playing in India, they specifically rested him, he didnt 'feign' injury as you are suggesting.

Posted by the_wallster on (January 9, 2012, 15:14 GMT)

a bigger blow than it appears. we are not only losing a top bowler, but a top batsman. the balance of the team will come into question now, so big decisions needed. prior at six with broad at seven? looks a bit fragile to me. having said that, it's a better lower order than pakistan's

Posted by Romenevans on (January 9, 2012, 15:06 GMT)

LOL good for him. He isnt recovered from that Kohli and Co's 5-0 depression, and Gowd! now this injury. Lucky dude. Who's next? Anderson or Broad?

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 15:04 GMT)

@jonnybtestmatch a bit harsh to call the pak batsman mickey mouse? they did well against stien morkel and co on the same pitches... im not sure if i would pick bresnan over any of those two... but one thing is for certain i was expecting him to be the most dangerous as he has been in most SC games... i think if they use petierson as the second spinner that might give england an extra bowler.....

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (January 9, 2012, 15:04 GMT)

Very bad luck for Bresnan who must be gutted, and a minor blow for England, still the depth is there with Finn and Tremlett, its just that we dont have anyone that can reverse the ball as well as him.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

o well i though in subcontinent he is going to eng best fast bowler now broad will be and hope finn speed like agaisnt india in india in odi can help them anderson is of no use in subcontinent once bowl gets old and bowl gets old quickyly in subcontinent and there are some concerns on swann and tremlett eng i fear what happened to us(india) in eng

Posted by jonnybtestmatch on (January 9, 2012, 14:33 GMT)

@siddharth, yeah I am pretty sure that professional sportsmen fake injuries when they feel the going might be tough. Bresnan will be gutted because it is just as likley that his replacement will bag a hatful of wickets against the mickey mouse Pak batsmen and cement their place in the test side. I would still play Tremlett over Finn as he can move the ball around and get the steep bounce even in the UAE. Would not mind if they go with Finn though as he looks a good prospect. Can't see them going in with two spinners and am not sure they will need them. Think KP will need to be ready to have more of a bowl. Lets hope he is practising in the nets

Posted by Kookaburra on (January 9, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

Tremlett would be completely ineffective in these conditions. Finn should be selected for his pace.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 14:15 GMT)

Sad news. But good news for Pakistan Cricket fans, very good chance to win now !

Posted by o-bomb on (January 9, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

Disappointing news, but I don't think it's a huge blow as we have Tremlett, Finn and Onions as back up - players who any other test side would be envious of having as reserves. Looking forward to the series.

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 14:03 GMT)

hahahaha as I said bresnan wants to keep his 100% record so he will not play in UAE.

Posted by bumsonseats on (January 9, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

not sure if he needed an operation, it was not done sooner, quite strange. will miss him.but as finn is the fastest pace bowler in world cricket not a bad replacement, but his batting is no way near bresnan. would think pakistan will be quite happy.dpk

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

Shame for Bres and England, looked like he'd finally cemented a spot in the first choice XI after runs and wickets vs India. Still, a chance to showcase the fast-bowling depth we have and further opportunity for Tremlett or the exciting Finn, though I suspect the skiddy Onions would do very well at building pressure on the slow, low decks of UAE and AD. Makes me really think they have missed an opportunity by not taking Samit Patel ahead of 1 of the fast bowlers or perhaps Bopara. Ravi is unlikely to provide more than a few overs of token medium pace, but having Patel available to slot in instead of at 7 would've been great to give Swann proper spin support. Bresnan strengthens the batting so much (him, Broad, Swann and Jimmy is perhaps the strongest Test tail ever!) but none of Trem, Finn or Onions do, so having one of them in for Bres and then Patel on hand to step in for (probably) Morgan with Prior gonig to 6 would've arguably strengtened batting AND bowling departments...

Posted by frazell on (January 9, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

As a England fan this is not good news as Bresnan would have allowed us to play 5 bowlers while keeping a solid batting line-up on flat pitches with him at 7, Broad 8 and Swann 9. It is also difficult for them to play 2 spinners as Strauss and Flower probably won't play 2 seamers and 2 spinners but 3 seamers and 2 spinners with Broad 7, Swann 8 + 3 rabbits is a longer tail than they will want to play

Posted by   on (January 9, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

i am afraid.......is history goin to repeat itself...what happened to india in england........is england squad is about to go through the same......injuries..clean sweep.....cant wait

Posted by 5wombats on (January 9, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

That's bad luck. But we have ample replacements.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 9, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

That's a tough blow for Bresnan. He came into the side because of injury and you have to wonder now whether he will have to wait for another to someone else to get back in. I'm sure that Chris Tremlett and Steven Finn are felling mixed emotions. It will be interesting to see whether England play Finn again or Tremlett in the next warmup. Obviously Finn playing again would mean that he was almost certain to play the first test. Given Finn's OK performance in the first game, Tremlett would perhaps fancy his chances if he gets a run.

Posted by siddharth_r2001 on (January 9, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

It's funny how the English bowlers always end up not recovering from injuries and are "forced to miss" series when the series is to be played on the slow-low pitches of the subcontinent!! even Anderson was conveniently "rested" before the ODI tour of India earlier this year. If this series were to be held in England or Australia or South Africa (or even New Zealand), I bet Bresnan would have been "fit and raring to go"!!

Posted by yorkshirematt on (January 9, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

Very disappointing as he could have had a big say in the series with his ability with the older ball. Reverse swing could be England's main weapon in this series although I woulb back them to take 20 wickets through patient bowling with the right line and length.

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