England v Pakistan, 1st Test, Dubai, 1st day January 17, 2012

England unconcerned by Ajmal's action - Prior

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It was as inevitable as it was regrettable that another absorbing day's cricket between Pakistan and England should be tarnished by more controversy.

At a time when Pakistan's Saeed Ajmal should have been talking about the career-best bowling spell that had earned his side the initiative in the first Test, he was instead forced to defend the legality of his bowling action in the post-play media conference. It appears that games between these sides will always be plagued by one issue or another.

Ajmal, utilising all his skill and variation, claimed 7 for 55 as England were dismissed for just 192. Though Ajmal gained little turn from a sluggish surface, there was just enough movement in each direction to send confusion through the English ranks. It was a masterful performance from a fine cricketer.

There were no complaints from the England dressing-room. Matt Prior, the England wicketkeeper, could not have made it clearer. "It's not something we're concerned about," he replied when asked what the England team thought of Ajmal's action. "It's not something we talk about. It's nothing to do with us."

But there were murmurs from former players and members of the media that suggested the issue could well dominate the headlines in the coming days. A waft of sour grapes, perhaps?

The debate was sparked by the former England captain turned pundit, Bob Willis. Willis made the point, a quite legitimate point in context, that England are putting themselves at a disadvantage by not encouraging their young cricketers to bowl the doosra, a delivery that is harder to bowl while maintaining the legal margin of 15 degrees of arm straightening.

There's some truth in Willis' complaint. Very few English coaches encourage the doosra and one of the very few county players who could bowl it with any degree of control and bite, Maurice Holmes, was recently suspended from bowling and released by his county after doubts about his action were raised.

"The delivery that I have a problem with is the doosra," Willis said. "The ICC have accommodated this delivery; they changed the rules to allow these bowlers to bend their elbow 15 degrees, which is what makes it so difficult for the batsmen.

"The authorities are now allowing these mystery spinners, unorthodox offspinners to bend their elbow to a degree. If they are going to be allowed to do that then England have to address this and decide whether we should be teaching our young spinners to bowl like that as well."

Prior, whose performance stood head and shoulders above his team-mates, refused to encourage talk about Ajmal's action. Instead he thought his side had to take responsibility for a poor display with the bat, while acknowledging that any bowler with the ability to turn the ball both ways always presented extra difficulties. Neither did he think that Ajmal's talk of a mystery new delivery - the teesra - had proved to be a successful mind game.

"We have to hold our hands up," Prior said. "We had a bad day at the office. It was a pretty good batting surface and the ball wasn't really turning. We just played a few cross-batted shots when we should have played straight.

"I don't think Saaed got in our heads at all. Any spin bowler who spins it both ways is tricky. His wrist is pretty quick when he delivers the ball so it's pretty difficult to pick him at times and that obviously plays on a batsman's minds, but we have to deal with him a lot better than we did today.

Ajmal also chose to rise above questions on the issue. "I'm just going to concentrate on my bowling," he said. "Umpires and referees are responsible for judging my action. Such questions were raised with Saqlain Mushtaq [the former Pakistan offspinner], too, but we both played county cricket and there were no problems. It's no problem for me that someone in England has questioned my action.

"This was the best performance of my life. I just bowled wicket to wicket and, while I had a good day, England had a bad one. They are all good players and it would be wrong to say that England doesn't play spin well. Andrew Strauss should have played off the front foot rather than the back, but I've worked hard on my bowling against left-handers and I'm very happy to have dismissed four left-handers today."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • wrenx on January 19, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    @TEEPEE1959 you can add Graeme Swann to that list. @TEEPEE1959 you can check out the video of Murali being tested, they slapped a brace on his arm that allowed for no bending or straightening... surprise, surprise, he still managed to bowl the off-spinner, the top-spinner and the doosra.

  • Doggy74 on January 19, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    1992-2007 13 21 685.3 100 2128 59 6/59 11/212 36.06 3.10 69.7 5 1

    Yep Murali really outbowled Australia, bring him on from both ends thanks.

  • Meety on January 19, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    Earlier post didn't make it. Very unfortunate timing for this. I'm not a Prior fan but he gets a very big tick from me for not buying into this new controversy. I remember him him in Oz as having an odd action, but not in terms of chucking. From memory, he seems to stop at point of delivery, almost to the point where you don't think he'll bowl. I don't recall anything untowards about him. If his action is that obvious - it should make picking the doosra easy, (Bell please take note!) LOL!!!!

  • redneck on January 19, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    @johnathonjosephs do you really believe when murali went to the uni of wa for testiing he bowled as he would in a match? no of coarse not he bowled with a straight arm, just like ajmal when he was tested. they dont bowl the variations like they would in a match, they bowl deliveries to clear their name not to get batsmen out in university nets! when they go back to competative cricket then the bent arm deliveries come back into their bag of tricks! and the only thing murali has over shane warne is a lot more bangledesh and zimbabwe wickets. infact take bang and zim out of the equation and warney has more test wickets!

  • on January 18, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    Teeesraa .. On the roar ! Respect Legend !! Those who hates you are your biggest fans.. So Go and Destroy Them !! :D

  • TEEPEE1959 on January 18, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    what does saeed ajmal, shoaib akhtar and harbhajan have in common? they never bowl in short sleeve shirts...why? to make their bend arms look less obvious !!!!

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:49 GMT

    Well what Bob has said was if ICC approves bending arm for 15 degrees why not training English bowlers in doosra which is a valuable valuable weapon in an off spinners armamentarium. Finallywe should be glad that English are begining to believe cricket has gone beyond their boundaries and it is evolving day by day with new inventions from all corners of the world .It is high time they should break their cobwebs and open their eyes and move with rest of the world.What Bob has said was need for the English cricket to come out from the framework of orthodoxy and to be more innovative like other countries.We should appluade him for his comments and hope English will learn from his opinions.I believe ICC should come out with a documentary displaying all the bowlers who bend their arms for 15 degrees and the reasons for making it legal as many people still beileve the rule was modified in favour particular bowlers from subcontinent which not the truth.

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    @ sanjaykn: So your logic is he has to be banned because he gets an unfair advantage? Can we ban modern day bats and shorter boundaries while we are at it then? Oh and flat pitches too! Oh and natural athleticism that some cricketers have that others don't. Ban away, sir.

  • sharidas on January 18, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    An outsider comment should be left alone. I am sure any spin bowler whether English or otherwise would try whatever variation he can bowl. It is for the Umpires to decide if there is any illegality in the bowling action. If Ajmal could bowl in England without being called, where is the issue ? Lets not read too much in to Willis' comments.

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    @ Sanjaykn..LOllz on u boy.. or you a cricket fan? I think you are talking about anything else..because you are declaring saqlain mushtaq action also doubtful..u know he is the spinner who always bowl with fair action. his doosra also do not need to bend his elbow. A simple and straight action he got. he did doosra with finger powers..if he s doubtful then what is bhajji doing..And Boy just checked our history from Sarfraz nawaz , Imran khan to JUnaid khan and Gul. we produced magnificent fast bowlers..thats the frustration you got that you could not produce any single fast bowler. You know i have played a lot of club cricker. and your bowler like Vinay KUmar are not suitable for our club side..there r plenty of bowlers like Vinay Kumar in our street..lol

  • wrenx on January 19, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    @TEEPEE1959 you can add Graeme Swann to that list. @TEEPEE1959 you can check out the video of Murali being tested, they slapped a brace on his arm that allowed for no bending or straightening... surprise, surprise, he still managed to bowl the off-spinner, the top-spinner and the doosra.

  • Doggy74 on January 19, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    1992-2007 13 21 685.3 100 2128 59 6/59 11/212 36.06 3.10 69.7 5 1

    Yep Murali really outbowled Australia, bring him on from both ends thanks.

  • Meety on January 19, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    Earlier post didn't make it. Very unfortunate timing for this. I'm not a Prior fan but he gets a very big tick from me for not buying into this new controversy. I remember him him in Oz as having an odd action, but not in terms of chucking. From memory, he seems to stop at point of delivery, almost to the point where you don't think he'll bowl. I don't recall anything untowards about him. If his action is that obvious - it should make picking the doosra easy, (Bell please take note!) LOL!!!!

  • redneck on January 19, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    @johnathonjosephs do you really believe when murali went to the uni of wa for testiing he bowled as he would in a match? no of coarse not he bowled with a straight arm, just like ajmal when he was tested. they dont bowl the variations like they would in a match, they bowl deliveries to clear their name not to get batsmen out in university nets! when they go back to competative cricket then the bent arm deliveries come back into their bag of tricks! and the only thing murali has over shane warne is a lot more bangledesh and zimbabwe wickets. infact take bang and zim out of the equation and warney has more test wickets!

  • on January 18, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    Teeesraa .. On the roar ! Respect Legend !! Those who hates you are your biggest fans.. So Go and Destroy Them !! :D

  • TEEPEE1959 on January 18, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    what does saeed ajmal, shoaib akhtar and harbhajan have in common? they never bowl in short sleeve shirts...why? to make their bend arms look less obvious !!!!

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:49 GMT

    Well what Bob has said was if ICC approves bending arm for 15 degrees why not training English bowlers in doosra which is a valuable valuable weapon in an off spinners armamentarium. Finallywe should be glad that English are begining to believe cricket has gone beyond their boundaries and it is evolving day by day with new inventions from all corners of the world .It is high time they should break their cobwebs and open their eyes and move with rest of the world.What Bob has said was need for the English cricket to come out from the framework of orthodoxy and to be more innovative like other countries.We should appluade him for his comments and hope English will learn from his opinions.I believe ICC should come out with a documentary displaying all the bowlers who bend their arms for 15 degrees and the reasons for making it legal as many people still beileve the rule was modified in favour particular bowlers from subcontinent which not the truth.

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    @ sanjaykn: So your logic is he has to be banned because he gets an unfair advantage? Can we ban modern day bats and shorter boundaries while we are at it then? Oh and flat pitches too! Oh and natural athleticism that some cricketers have that others don't. Ban away, sir.

  • sharidas on January 18, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    An outsider comment should be left alone. I am sure any spin bowler whether English or otherwise would try whatever variation he can bowl. It is for the Umpires to decide if there is any illegality in the bowling action. If Ajmal could bowl in England without being called, where is the issue ? Lets not read too much in to Willis' comments.

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    @ Sanjaykn..LOllz on u boy.. or you a cricket fan? I think you are talking about anything else..because you are declaring saqlain mushtaq action also doubtful..u know he is the spinner who always bowl with fair action. his doosra also do not need to bend his elbow. A simple and straight action he got. he did doosra with finger powers..if he s doubtful then what is bhajji doing..And Boy just checked our history from Sarfraz nawaz , Imran khan to JUnaid khan and Gul. we produced magnificent fast bowlers..thats the frustration you got that you could not produce any single fast bowler. You know i have played a lot of club cricker. and your bowler like Vinay KUmar are not suitable for our club side..there r plenty of bowlers like Vinay Kumar in our street..lol

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    As redneck says the odd spinning delivery of Ajmal is definitely chucked. But some countries aren`t very interested in the rules as they always have bowlers to take advantage of it. Other countries try to stamp out bent arm deliveries as soon as a young cricketer is spotted using them. It`s only a game remember ... 20 years from now bowlers will be looking more like baseball pitchers.

  • ajaypathak on January 18, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    The Problem with Eng & Aus is that they cant believe that they out class by an Asian country in the game of cricket, they think that they are always best in the game and when they loose against india, pak or SL, they start some controversy, this is happen from many years,they use umpire in early days like west indies umpire steve bucknor, the fact is that they outclassed by best spin bowling from ajmal, they are not NO.1 team in the world, other team not playing well so they become no.1, this english team never win in india, pak or SL.

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    Waw, there you go, Pakistan vs England means controversy at your doorsteps. I sincerely hope that it turns out to be good test series.

    All of a sudden Bob Willis is starting to suspect Ajmal's action but it doesn't make much difference for us the Pakistani cricket supporters, this is not the first time English media or supporters have complained about something. They complained about the reverse swing when Wasim and Waqar who in boycott's view "will get the English batsmen out even if they use oranges." They Complained about Saqlain and now its Ajmal's turn.

    lets just enjoy cricket guys, there is already so much controversy.

  • GlobalCricketFan99 on January 18, 2012, 8:27 GMT

    It is people like Bob Willis who should be held responsible for creating situations when England play Pakistan. If Willis was that concerned why did he not make his comments before the match or when Ajmal was playing in the English county circuit. Also what makes him the expert - he doesnt see mto be a bowler whose knowledge is required by his own country. Bob please go back to bed and keep dreaming!

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    It's not odd at all that commentators have made mention of Ajmal's action - it looks dodgy and it should be commented on. The fact that he "bowled" well and ended up with fantastic figures is neither here nor there - to extend my earlier analogy you don't let a bowler get away with overstepping just because he has 0/100 and you feel sorry for him. // And while any bowler's action is indeed legal until proven otherwise, that decision-making process has been all but taken away from the umpires on the field. Whether the umpires call it or not, it actually IS the commentators' job to bring it up, just as they would if the umpires failed to call a bowler for overstepping, or to see the ball nick the edge of the bat on its way to the keeper. Like it or not, Willis is doing his job, as will the ICC be if they later decide to review Ajmal's bowling action (Hint: they won't)

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    I'm an Indian, and I must say that England lacks the sportsmanship to give the opponents their due respect.

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:14 GMT

    The same old fad of Englishmen trying out new tricks when the onfield ones haven't yielded results. I watched the entire days play yesterday and rejoiced at the sight of a talented off spinner reaping the rewards for some wonderful bowling. What the English commentators and media need to understand is that trotting gibberish in the newspapers and in front of the mike is no way to win a series. Pakistan is an incredibly talented team(more talented in bowling than any other now) and you have to respect their performances. This is an Indian cricket and test cricket fan speaking out of sheer indignation! Booooo Bob!

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    Pakistan fans - please leave the England team out of this. If you want to be upset at what certain commentators say, fine by me. Prior speaks for the entire team when he says that they have no issue with Ajmals action. Ajmal bowled very well, England batted very poorly and the team knows that.

  • CricHowZat on January 18, 2012, 7:46 GMT

    redneck, sanjaykn & to all ajmal haters....... this is not the first time ajmal is delivering his doosra, where were u guys before the start of this match, sleeeping..??? ajmal is cleared by icc, dont waste your time and dont get scared of ajmal

  • ajayrcs on January 18, 2012, 7:44 GMT

    Not no.1 at all if gonna depend on Pieterson {Opposition puts him in front of left hand spinner all the time, Its Ian Bell which they should be more dependent by sending him top of the order} English team don't even have substitute for their prime player like Swann

  • screamingeagle on January 18, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    Absolutely, it was extremely suspect. No, NOT ajmals action; rather the Englishmen's technique. :P

  • nimal183 on January 18, 2012, 7:36 GMT

    There you go again!!! Bob willis taunted murali when he was playing. Now he start with Ajmal!!! Come on Bob be a gentleman and accept that England completely outplayed by great spin bowling.

  • Praxis on January 18, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    When you are brilliantly fooled & spun out by an unorthodox bowler, what do you do? Prior said it perfectly, "...we have to deal with him a lot better...". Don't know why these pundits have a hard time digesting the fact that English batsmen were simply not good enough against spin. Just being promoted to no 1 in test never makes you immune to quality bowling. About his action, surely most of us followers have tiny amount of faith in how ICC runs this game, but they do monitor all the bowlers. If there's a problem it'll be noted.

  • yorkslanka on January 18, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    @in the bag- maybe you should get your facts right before you post?the 15 degree rule applies to fast bowlers, so in your character assassination of murali , are you going to add the likes of McGrath, Lee , Waqar , Wasim etc to that list of "chuckers" or are some of them a bit too "traditional" for you to do that? Teams that were unable to deal with murali on the pitch tried to ruin him off the pitch and I am glad to see the current England side haven't started doing that with Ajmal ( who is acctually the best spinner in the world currently)

  • Behind_the_Wicket on January 18, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    My Dear Indian Friends , Sorry ! Everything is going against you if England is in tough situation then what you can do , Pray more than hate Pakistani Team.Good Luck for you also..

  • Rahul_78 on January 18, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Dont worry Saeed! Just concentrate on your game and keep taking bucketful of wickets. This is nothing new from retired English cricketers. Remember former English captain Vaughen's rant about VVS using vaselin on his bat to get away from hotspot. He had to retract and apologize afterwards. I hope if shove comes to push for ones the PCB will stand strongly behind their best spinner and not let all this get out of hand. I have no doubt that by the end of this series Ajmal will emerge as a clear winner between battle of two world class off spinners. We at India are rooting for Ajmal.

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    @sanjaykn mate ur like a broken record he has already been cleared.... or does he need to be checked by you?

  • ABRAR-JANJUA on January 18, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    @ redneck The Famous and Favorite job of English media ,ex players and commentators to pressurize Pakistani bowlers with these kind of tactics. They blamed Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis for ball tempering in past and called reverse swing ''Ball Tempering'' but when they learned it they called it ''Art''. in future if their bowlers will be able to bowl ''Dosraa'' they will support and will say it ''Art''...and @ redneck you must immediately consult to Eye Specialist...watching T.V without glasses can effect your health also...

  • lakshan_sl on January 18, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    Well I am SL fan. We lost to Pakistan 1-0 but never complained about anything. Nasser hussain, Mike Atherton, Bob Willis and Ian botham are just looking for reasons to hide. Please accept the fact that England are better only in seaming conditions. Where are the Andersons, Tremlets and Broards? All the best for your number one ranking England. More things to come.

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    I give full 100 points to the English Captain where he mentioned that his side batted badly, if all of you can see most of the out were when players were playing cross or not even judge in line of the ball. It would been simple if all players were to play straight and in line of ball. I hope next time English Team bats they do it in better way, they are professionals and will do better next time.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 18, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    I though its always the Aussies who will finish the career of a spinner whom they cannot face. But Eng too joins the list. SA is the only non asian team that has consistently succeeded in every part of the world (barring the important matches like WC) with out making any fuss

  • The_Wog on January 18, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    @Simoc - funniest comment of the year. Yeah, they changed the chucking law for Glenn McGrath! Not that other guy, you know, the controversial one, what's his name? the one that bent his arm 80 degree to baseball pitch his doosra, but Glenn McGrath?? ROTFLMAO!

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    The world always create a buzz in accepting something new but specially for Asian cricketers, if Murli and Maliga and another one from South Africa's spin bowlers actions are correct than it's far better for Ajmal's bowling actions. I remember such things do happened when Saqlain Mushtaq created DOSRA so he went for clearance in Australia. Grow up cricketing nations like Aus & Eng, they think what they can't do in ill legal. But not always fellaaas.......

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    Im an Indian . There is no problem with Ajmal..He is a wonderful bowler..Englands complaints are just sour grapes..So never mind

  • Nigels on January 18, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    Come on now..This is a case of sour grapes..! Ajmal deserves all the credit do not try and discredit him please...we know the Enlish press like's to steer things up but please do not try this...

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Shame on the british media and bob willis !! Accept it, ENGLAND CANT PLAY THE BEST SPINNER IN THE WORLD AT THE MOMENT SEAD AJMAL !! Show some sportmen-ship for god sake, ajmals action and his doosra have been tested by the ICC ! And he has been given permission to bowl it !! What is the English media going to come up with next ?? DRS erros that caused England to loose the Number 1 test side position! DONT WORRY THEY WILL BACK AT THEIR NORMAL POSITION 5-6 IN 16 MONTHS TIME !!

  • Chino666 on January 18, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    I think the situation is the same in Australia as it is England concerning the doosra. In Australia the delivery is not taught as it is the opinion of Cricket Australia that it cant be bowled with a straight arm.

  • Naseer on January 18, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    this is simply understandable to everyone, that English media and some former players know that Ajmal is going to be the major threat for them in the series and could defeat them on his individual efforts, therefore they want play mind game with him to distract him and derail him, which will affect his bowling and allow English batsmen escape the threat, well played England! but you are forgetting that Pak players are very hard in their approach, you must have seen what they have done after spot fixing saga, they emerge as heroes in difficult times, you have awaken the lion! get ready for it!

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    why do people always complain when low profile team play good cricket and high profile play bad. Ajmal is one of the best as was the Murali and harbhajan as well

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:44 GMT

    do nt be surprised, these few english media OR commentators (self called gentlemen) well create somthing to degrade Ajmal performance and give some releif to the distar perofrmance....... they should be proefessional, not jealous..... india is loosing to Australia, but they never blame any one, although India has a strong media........... these things not come from aisan countires.

  • drnaveed on January 18, 2012, 5:36 GMT

    come on eng, be a bit more realistic.if your team didnt do well ,you should accept it, all trying to take away credit from saeed ajmal.if you dont know how to play spin than you should be bold enough to accept it ,infact your your batsmen cant even play straight balls bowled at them.,dont try to take the credit away from the opposite side bowler.you had so many coaches ,what they were doing?,if prior has no objection than why commentator has?.first it was m.gatting who was changing the field when the bowler was coming to bowl, then ball tempering,than fortified test, than spot fixing and now this.your media always try to cover your poor performance.saeed is not a new comer in this field, he has been cleared by icc, so go and ask icc ... mr bob willis about is action.

  • Mohammad_Imran on January 18, 2012, 5:35 GMT

    ICC has already tested his action in Australia & cleared him... All Pak haters, GET OVER IT!!! Pakistan will destroy England in this series... just wait till Eng bowlers get a ball & then the media will find something to say abt the Pak batsman because they scored 400+ ... it's just ridiculous!!!

  • bravest-mussel on January 18, 2012, 5:29 GMT

    @tradetekbiz. 100% agree wid u, i copied your (perfect) comment for some1, for his satisfactions. thanks.

  • jonesy2 on January 18, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    and england wonder why everyone hates them in a sporting context. they fail more often than not and are sore losers while they have no integrity in winning and are pathetic with their sad need to convince themselves they arent a complete and utter joke.

  • bravest-mussel on January 18, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    @sanjaykn I think you are missing the points. 1) It seems just odd that some in the media start to point out after he rips through the English batting line-up, if he had gone 0/120 on first day, no one would've said anything, just seems opportunistic. 2) As you said that his action should be closely watched, in it you assume that it's job of the media to simply imply it must be illegal since it doesn't look good, when fact of the matter is that, it's legal until proven otherwise, and it's not mine or your job to declare it illegal, it's that of cricket umpire's, so if no one else has said anything it's legal until proven otherwise. Thus, to blatantly raise the question after he gets 7 wickets on the first day just shows the apparent bias and almost envy from english fans/commentators.

  • Stevo_ on January 18, 2012, 5:13 GMT

    @Bytheway Thats crazy talk. The whole point of the bent arm is that you can spin it a mile. Get a cricekt ball and just chuck it and flick your wrist, it spins a mile. You can't allow a bent arm, and it was crazy that the ICC changed the rules for Murali

  • joshofali on January 18, 2012, 5:08 GMT

    Why they dont checked Anil Kumble's bowling action. When he bowled out the entire Pakistan team? these indians and english men cant tolerate their defeat they always blame the opponent's players rather than focusing on their own players

  • ddrath on January 18, 2012, 5:07 GMT

    Ohh This is not a new thing when Australia was on top they did it for Lankans then,

    Now here we go being the number 1 test team and because one bowler talked prior to the series and back up with brillient bowling they just keep complaint and make some utter usless argument suddenly.

    there is good name for these kind of argument (not going to bring up that here), when someone performing or coming through the ranks well these sort of teams tend to do this untill the bowler go out of the cricket! failed once and will fail this time also!

    Go Ajmal!!

  • SyedKabirHussainy on January 18, 2012, 5:03 GMT

    Ajmal is bowling with this action since few years, there in nothing new here. Suddenly when English players got out to such deliveries, english media and some other anti Pakistan do not digust it and started off play politics. To me Ajmal bowled just line and length and got superb results, it was great to watch. CONTRATS Ajmal for excellent bowling.

  • johntycodes on January 18, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    I wonder if the gutless england commentators would be questioning his action if england were 4-330 after day 1.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 18, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    this statement from prior didn't surprise me at all . english players have a history of accusing subcontitnental players . during the 1993 tour of eng , when pakistan's wasim akram & waqar younis show the demonstration of reverse swing , then also english players accused them of ball tampering .

  • yocasi on January 18, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    Is this Ajmal the same guy whose action was queried by Michael Holding in the Caribbean in 2011 vs West Indies?

  • Kolpak1989 on January 18, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    Judging by Ajmal's performance yesterday I think English fans are going to find it very hard to mount a case for Graeme Swann as the world's best offspinner. Not denying that Swann is a quality bowler, but Ajmal looks the real deal.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:40 GMT

    I think English Media should learn to accept "FACT/REALITY". The should stop complaining like kids. Instead of criticizing England's batting line up, they are up against Ajmal.....Please grow up and accept the bitter truth.

  • ansram on January 18, 2012, 4:22 GMT

    Nice excuse from the English. They have been exposed against spin again.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    It's nothing new to England. They try to invent some issues to down look their opponent's success.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    This is ridiculous. When an Asian bowler is dominating the english/australian sides they will come up with some excuses or complaints, be it murali, akthar or ajmal. Instead of addressing their issues with the batting they will find fault with the bowling action. Oh Yeah, no one seem to talk about botha who is straightening his arm very clearly..

  • FatBoysCanBat on January 18, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    In my opinion his action is quite suspect and it is the suspect part of his action which allows to spin the ball the amount he does and I'm sure he will be tested by the ICC after this series or this Test match. Should his action be deemed illegal - which I'm thinking it will be - then he will be banned from bowling immediately, until he rectifies it. @sfjamal: England haven't been defeated yet man it is still early days in this match. Also this isn't the English team using their media to create 'controversies' and Matt Prior states that in the article - ""It's not something we're concerned about. It's not something we talk about. It's nothing to do with us."" @DomP: You must remember English isn't Ajmal's language of choice so he probably meant someone 'from' England, also quotes in articles aren't always word for word. @Mohsan Ali: I'm pretty sure Malinga bowls with a straight arm - it is just parallel to the ground rather than perpendicular.

  • vvprasath on January 18, 2012, 4:04 GMT

    Saeed Ajmal is 34 years old and has more than 100 international appearances. It took a 7 for against England to question his action. Strange..

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:59 GMT

    The English are always jealous of Asian performances , they complained against the reverse swing back then and called it ball tampering against Imran and after 15 years when they bowled out Australia in the Ashes it was just skillful reverse bowling.

    May be after 15 years again when an English bowler will learn to bowl a dusra they will have no problem with it. Grow Up Bob Willis every day is not Sunday.

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:58 GMT

    English media and Bob Willis are just pathetic. They just want to hide their bad performance by doing such dramas.

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:54 GMT

    there is always controversy whenever this two nations play! And he doesnt do England any good, if they're former players start giving excuses right from the get go. I like how Matt P, played down the situation and focused on what went wrong instead of bring up controversies. Hopefully this series will bring out the best not the opposite.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 18, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    It really pains me to see what people can say that ultimately tarnishes a bowler's reputation. When Murali was called a "chucker" and was legitimized, people claimed that he still chucked. So he then went to Australia for an Australian University to clear him. He was also cleared there. A couple years later, they did an independent study on all bowlers and found that most successful bowlers bent their arm over 10 degrees. They changed the rule for 15 degrees (really nothing to do with Murali) but the rule's coming into play was associated with Murali and people speculated it was brought to accomodate Murali's bowling, when in fact it was to accomodate all bowler's bowling. Years after Murali was cleared, he still has that tarnish to his name and even though he has more than double the records of Shane Warne in almost every single aspect (5 wickt/10 wckt hauls/ODI records/etc), he is considered only second to Shane Warne. Now, England is trying to do it to Ajmal, the best spinner after

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    come on guys...let's just appreciate the good bowling. tell me this, didn't you enjoy the bowling and batman's suffocation which is a rare sight in today's batsman friendly wickets? as a true cricket fan, unbiased from which country you belong or which country you support, you should enjoy the mastery of off-spin. let the media, old/ex/unsuccessful cricketers and stupid fans to wobble around with the controversy...

  • Kak-mal_Khan on January 18, 2012, 3:44 GMT

    This is why British Asians will always fail the Tebbit Test when following cricket - when their country of origin produce such magical players who can never be acknowledged for their skill. Funny thiing is reverse swing used to be, and still is, illegal when Pakistan do it to 'England'. However if the same player does for their county as Wasim & Waqar produced so regularly for Lancashire & Surrey (respectively) it was fine, and yet their team-mates were using the same scuffed ball with lesser effect. I would like to put this question about Ajmal in county cricket, was this delivery not used then? and was his action not suspect then? Pakistan cricket has been aired on Sky and Eurosport all last year with Bob Willis and co providing analytical thoughts why no controversy then? Also for those who thought Ajmal did not exist until he took 7 wickets against 'England', he has been tested and cleared at 13 degree level, soon there will be flexibilty clause for his wrist bending, what a shame!

  • andrew-schulz on January 18, 2012, 3:34 GMT

    This article hasn't actually named anybody who has questioned Ajmal's action. Some of its respondents need a dose of reality as to whose actions have been suspect in the past. Mohsan Ali and Simoc, how could you question the actions of McGrath and Malinga, especially in the context of many others who hvae now been cleared?

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    Big up to Matt Prior to sticking to his team discussion rather than getting into this ridiculous statement. Sour grapes indeed by some of the people. Saeed Ajmal - You bamboozled them my brother! Let the haters hate and stay jealous.

    P.S. I'm sure when the English start bowling like Ajmal, there will be no comments like this

  • jkaussie on January 18, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    @johnathanjosephs - Murali was called for throwing because he under the laws of the time he was bowling illegally. When this happened and the focus went onto bowling actions, what you described with the 15' ruling occurred and from then on he was no longer called. So, do not say he was hounded out, nor blame it on the Australian umpires - they acted according to the laws of the time. The law stated that "in the opinion of the umpire..." and had no allowance for any degree of bend. It is also worth noting that Australia had a history of coming down very hard on throwing and called its own players regulary (Meckiff comes to mind); in the same seaon Murali was called, Greg Rowell, a Sth Australian quick, was also called in first class cricket.

  • jkaussie on January 18, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    One thing to note fans is that for the last 12 years or so, the bat dominated the ball, with massive scores including more triple hundreds than were seen for some time. Bowlers were forced to try to find different ways to succeed i.e. take wickets. With the 15' allowance, the doosra became one such weapon, like reverse swing. Now we have in 2011/12 the ball holding sway over the bat more often and the balance is being restored - and just how exciting has the Test cricket been? Some cracking finishes, resolute, fighting batting and bowlers attacking rather than containing. Ajmal has an action that is legal, according to the ruling body, much like Murali's so lets enjoy the action, watch the batters work hard and learn how to counterattack (which they will) and let the battle continue!

  • USAPakCricFollower on January 18, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    What a pathetic display of sour grapes from the english media and some of the fans (not all). Nothing unusual though. Same old story. All that talk of a controversy free series and the first collapse of the english team and the the english media cannot take it already. Grow up, and stop whining. It's laughable to bring this up after ICC had already cleared Ajmal years ago, no complaints when he played county cricket, but take 7 quick english wickets and the criers come out at once. Kudos to Prior for not entertaining this kind of rubbish talk and keep the focus on playing cricket.

  • Belltower on January 18, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    Why mention Australia, we had nothing to do with this. Obviously a lot of you guys have no idea . The rule was not brought in for guys like McGrath, why bother mentioning it. Murali and other bowlers bowled illegally and for political reasons they changed the rule to 15 degrees for everyone. The occasional ball by Lee and co pushes the limit but most of their balls are well within the legal limits, Every single one of Muralis deliveries were over the old slow bowlers limit and when they changed the rule only the doosra was occasionally iffy. BTW when Murali was no balled in Australia by Australian umpires he had the damaging figures of 2-250 in one test, so we were hardly threatened by his brilliance, his bowling figures in Australia are terrible and though he did well in Sri Lanka against us it was due to the wickets turning from the first day and his ability to knock over the tail. Martyn, Lehman and Katich made him ineffectual in SriLanka against the top order

  • on January 18, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    English cricket team has lost their mind as they can not face pakistani bowlers, the game which they are playing calls children's play, they should not accept pakistan's invitation ifthey can not face them

  • BigDataIsAHoax on January 18, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    It was totally ridiculous for Bob Willis to bring up the doosra talk after the carnage. The english team does not complain about it. But, I can see some english supporters already getting ready with their excuses of getting hammered against spin.

  • RATHIJAAT on January 18, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    Pommies pls stop crying and digest the fact that u cant play spin .9 matches in subcontinent too much .Lovely bowling by Ajmal .Even I am an Indian but my support is with Pak.

  • DanInSydney on January 18, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    For those of you who clearly can't read: Bob Willis was criticising England for discouraging bowlers from bolwing the doosra despite the ICC specifically accommodating it in the rules. I can't imagine the size of the chip on peoples' shoulders to turn this into an England making excuses narrative. Just pathetic. On a cricketing note, I'm looking forward to seeing what Ajmal can do on a day 4 or day 5 pitch - he is going to be a real handful.

  • Belltower on January 18, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    Simoc you are mistaken. The rule was brought in for to accommodate Murali. Glenn McGrath was proven to have a perfectly straight arm on all deliveries. Brett Lee also bowled within the previous 10 degree limit, slow bowlers had a 5 degree, medium 7.5, fast 10, all of Murali's deliveries were illegal under the old rule, the rule was changed to accommodate his unusual action and to make it the same for all bowlers. Going back to the original article Ajmal doesn't look that bad to me when I watched last night, I don't think his elbow bends much at all, but it has been shown that it is hard to bowl the doosra without getting close or going past the legal limit

  • AncientAstronaut on January 18, 2012, 1:30 GMT

    I'm from India and I stand solidly with Pakistan here. If you can't play a bowler, work on it. Don't whine. England's a good team now, but whining won't win them any respect. Only a win will.

  • on January 18, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    Ajmal resembles more of saklin mushtaq..... What skills amazing cricketer - Am an Indian

  • nzcricket174 on January 18, 2012, 1:22 GMT

    Another story concocted by the media in order to put a bowler too hot to handle off his stride. Ala' Murali in the 90s and early 00s when so many complained about his Doosra, simply because they could not play or pick it. Post-career nobody is complaining. The only reason Ajmal seems unplayable is because the plans and techniques of the English batsmen are poor. Go watch Stephen Fleming's 272* against Sri Lanka on YouTube, he showed the true way to play Murali. He couldn't pick him at all, but because his game plan was so fantastic he didn't need to.

  • Stromy_A on January 18, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    Let the whinging begin! English commentators + media complaining already about lack of pace in the Subcontinent wickets. why don't the subcontinent teams prepare wickets with more pace and bounce? So u want wickets to suit your quickies & where your bats feel more comfortable against spin. People advocating such nonsense, do they call for wickets to suit Indian, Pak or Lankan batters + bowlers when they travel abroad. Naaah, they're told to suck up and get on with it.

  • TontonZolaMoukoko on January 18, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    Why are people criticising the England team on this article? They haven't made any mention that Ajmal's action is illegal, and nor has Willis in this article. Do people actually read the article before commenting?

  • eddsnake on January 18, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    Bravo Bob Willis for saying what most people would think when they watched a side on all mo of Ajmal's action. Pakistan supporters please take off your rose tinted spectacles and have a look at the laws of cricket. The sooner bowlers like Ajmal, Botha and the like get banned the better. Sky showed what they think is the 'Teesra' today (Ajmal's arm ball), it looked like he was in a javelin competition!!!

  • Meety on January 18, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    The timing of this is VERY unfortunate. Ajmal has played 5 tests recently against SL & Bangladesh & this wasn't raised. I saw him bowl in Oz a while back & apart from seming to slow down at the point of release I saw nothing obviously wrong in his style. @ Nuxxy - that maybe the case but the new laws in regard of degrees of "bend" has been because of Murali! It is spinners that push the boundary particularly when trying to bowl the Doosra. @Moshan Ali - well said! I just find it odd that he hasn't been questioned. Interestingly how many quality players have ever gotten out to the Doosra? The answer is not man. Murali couldn't by an Oz wicket with it & he didn't get many Indians either. == == == Not a great fan of Prior, but I give him a massive tick for avoiding fanning the flames over Ajmal's technique. I applaud him! What I really want to know is Bell's opinion! LOL!! If the arm is soooo bent when the Doosra is bowled - why can't England play it?

  • ultimatewarrior on January 18, 2012, 0:36 GMT

    Pure mind game by English Media! And this is not new, whenever they are outperformed they react in this way only (1)You are playing foul (2)Pitches have problem (3)Hospitality is not good (4)Our Key players injured/out of form (5)Your Key players are sent by god and are history makers...

  • DomP on January 18, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    ". It's no problem for me that someone in England has questioned my action. " Well, surely Willis would need to be in the ground at Dubai to make a valid criticism of Ajmal's action in this Test? Or is Amjal mistaken?

  • on January 18, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    What I don't understand is why are all these questions about the doosra and his action being raised right after his best performance against England? If his action is so suspect, why did no one complain for the last year? This is kind of pathetic, the English media needs to get over the fact that English batsmen failed against spin yesterday!

  • sfjamal on January 18, 2012, 0:12 GMT

    English media/X players/team; whom ever; always have some sort of excuse to hide their defeat in this game. I would say, Be man enough to accept that you were outclassed by one of the best bowling line-up in the world. Dont create controversies thru your powerful media to hide your own weaknesses. Same goes with Aussies, great team, but dont have the sportsmanship to accept if opponent is better.

  • Bytheway on January 18, 2012, 0:08 GMT

    I have no problem with a bowler bowling with a bent elbow so long as the speed of the ball is less than 100kph. Chucking is only a problem when it is dangerous.

  • tradetekbiz on January 18, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    @David Alexander Norrish: I think you are missing the points. 1) It seems just odd that some in the media start to point out after he rips through the English batting line-up, if he had gone 0/120 on first day, no one would've said anything, just seems opportunistic. 2) As you said that his action should be closely watched, in it you assume that it's job of the media to simply imply it must be illegal since it doesn't look good, when fact of the matter is that, it's legal until proven otherwise, and it's not mine or your job to declare it illegal, it's that of cricket umpire's, so if no one else has said anything it's legal until proven otherwise. Thus, to blatantly raise the question after he gets 7 wickets on the first day just shows the apparent bias and almost envy from english fans/commentators.

  • sanjaykn on January 18, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    Anybody saying ajmal's action is legal do not know damn thing about bowling. O f course, pakistani fans are in total denial! There is plenty of difference between swanns action and ajmals action! Look at the footing and that does not lie! He is not bowling, he is throwing and whip lashing the ball, period. And must be banned asap! He should not have been let to do this in the first place. I agree he is a good bowler but the doosra bowled illegally gives unfair advantage. If doosras are allowed to ball this way where ball is turning substantially other way around than why do we need legspin? His normal action itself is quite dubious. I am shocked how he has been let go till now( he is like 34 now!).

    His action needs quick change or this nonsense must stop! This time indian board wont help period.

    Did waqar and wasim chuck the ball? they would get wickets with oranges( bottle tops ok! give my men some love). There bowling actions were top class! saqlin also checked the ball. But he wa

  • on January 18, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    @ David...Haters are going to hate... okay fine... ban Ajmal, but do me a favor and also ban Harbhajan, Malinga, oh and also Botha... thanks...seriously??? If ICC has cleared them, then how is it the players' fault? So your just upset that England took a beating, to be fair the ball did not even turn that much except on few occasions, which someone has already stated on another thread. Just enjoy the game man....

  • Simoc on January 17, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    Willis says they changed the rules to accomodate these bowlers. I thought they changed the rules to legitimise fast bowlers like Glen McGrath who always bowled with a bent arm (at least the15% allowed). Brett Lee also had a bent arm on his fast ball.

  • Falaky on January 17, 2012, 23:46 GMT

    Ha! like this makes the Guardian my favourite. "I like to think that, in the event of a heavy setback to England such as this, it's not only us losing," says Jonah Gadsby. "It's The Sun, the Daily Mail, Piers Morgan, Jeff Powell, Kelvin Mackenzie all losing against Pakistan. A sorry variety of optimism can be derived from this melancholic state of affairs that our nation finds itself entangled amidst." Bob Willis you're an arrogant person, and I feel sad for the state you're in at the moment.

  • redneck on January 17, 2012, 23:45 GMT

    as much as i rejoyced at ajmal walking all over england. his action looks increadably suspect watching on tv last night! not that the icc would do anything, how can they? they allowed murali to chuck his way to the record for the most wickets. ajmal though looks like the bending of his arm directly links to how much spin he puts on the ball, which makes his action even worse to me. as its the suspect part of his bowling action that sets him apart from the average offie.

  • bigdhonifan on January 17, 2012, 23:45 GMT

    england cant evven play Aswin and Jadeja.... so we know what will happen against Ajmal....

  • Falaky on January 17, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    The Australian cricket commentators (at least on Channel 9) seem to lampshade this a lot by being blatantly biased, and inviting former English or New Zealand players into the commentary box and then just lambasting them with replays of Australia winning tests against their respective teams. It's actually all very humorous, but when I was in England and heard the commentators acting all very serious about it it was just depressing. Cracking a joke at another team's expense is perfectly fine, and is actually one of the major parts of cricket. Saying "Oh, we're number one, you know!" and actually being serious about it is sad.

  • PK-1 on January 17, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    @Peter Wright- u say this but it was actually Bob Willis that suggested this, quite sad from the media and bobs's point of view considereing that he took a test for his bowling actions in 2009. nothing new with england crying again. it had been 5 overs into the match when we herd the first excuse of the day coming from atherton "england havent played Test cricket in a while" not really a valid excuse considering that they are meant to be sporting superstars. what where the two warm up matches for???

  • SirEngland on January 17, 2012, 23:25 GMT

    Sorry Bob (Willis), Darrell Hair is not umpiring!

  • Truemans_Ghost on January 17, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    I have to agree with Aamir.... if the arm bends that much, it must be easy to pick! However, Peter Wright is also quite right, Prior is saying his action is none of our business, we batted badly. Criticise England for their batter, but they are NOT whining!

  • beejaytee on January 17, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    Storm in a teacup. What Willis said - that England should start coaching the doosra - is correct. He also added some anti-asian and anti-spin snark, but that's just because he was an non-asian fast bowler. Hardly surprising, or controversial. Well bowled, Ajmal. Next story please...

  • cisco420 on January 17, 2012, 23:02 GMT

    English media and their ex players should stop whining. Saqlain has been bowling the same doosra for years. Murli has been doing the same thing. English commentrators should let their players play rather than crying for their team and making excuses.

  • me54321 on January 17, 2012, 22:56 GMT

    Try reading the article properly, or even better comment after having watched the commentary. Bob Willis is a very forthright commentator, and I like the way he pulls no punches. But he didn't say Ajmal's action was illegal. He actually made the point that if the law has been changed to allow a degree of arm bending (chucking), then England should be doing it too. I'm sure he would have liked to have gone further, and say what a lot of people think when they see some of Ajmal's deliveries in slow motion. Either way, England have only themselves to blame, and with the pitch looking terribly unresponsive in both innings, we're going to have to bat really well in our second innings to save the game.

  • Bazinga81 on January 17, 2012, 22:55 GMT

    Good to see the English crickets coming out and acknowledging that it was their own faults and weakness rather than the opponents cheating that caused such a breakdown. Utterly disgusting what some in the media are trying to do. They can disturb the mental state of the players (maybe thats what they want to do? in which case a very cheap act). Either way if they genuinely think there is something wrong then wait till the series or at least till the match ends. Have some dignity so called "gentlemen".

  • lethalbouncer on January 17, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Pathetic - typical weasel reaction from the poms. Same reaction they had against the two Ws when they pioneered reverse swing. Predictably in a situation where they are getting a beating.

  • DrAtharAbbas on January 17, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    English people should make just one rule and get it enforced. Pakistan winning against England is illegal in cricket and they should be stopped immediately if they break that rule.. . . . . . . ........................................... :D Come one, learn to accept some one is playing better cricket then you are!

  • inthebag on January 17, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    The ICC changed the rules, under pressure from Asian cricket boards, to allow a particular bowler to continue chucking. Now they're all doing it. This isn't sour grapes, it's simply a more traditional cricket community unhappy about the repercussions of that ruling, that's why they don't do it themselves.

  • donda on January 17, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    Ah they knew it before the series and Ajmal is bowling for last 4 years. What's wrong in his bowling now. England cannot play spin well and that every body knows. If you are #1 team in the world then please no excuses, just play the game well. there is lot of time left in this test and england can come back very easily with good bowling and good batting. Don't take away good performance from a bowler who is bowling same balls for last 4 years. Don't make him look bad , just play him well.

    Also Doosra or teesra they are legitimate balls as per ICC rules so england bowlers should bowl it too. Don't hate the ball.

  • Rudekhan on January 17, 2012, 22:07 GMT

    Shame on u Mr BOB Willis, as usual being a crying sportmen AND CRY BABY, SNIFF SNIFF, just because you guys cant produce a mystery spinner or unorthodox offspinners, as usual u just want the your english batsmen to score dead rubber hundreds. And not appreciate the art of bowling. All bolwers have is Actions, angels or writs positions to play with, it shud be then a case of batsmen having unfair advantage of using helmet, gloves or pads. U stink u racists faggot. PAKISTAN shud stop playing against these fools who will try and cause controvesy and conflicts everytime they play them, i am sure Swann was called for same offence, and also if your club coaches dont understand the art then how could they teach it or coach it to rest of members, its pure sheer hardwork and intelligience.

  • foursandsixes on January 17, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    England are going to lose this 0-3, they will also lose 0-3 when they tour India, and 0-2 in SL. They can't play the pehla, doosra, or teesra! Plain and simple!

  • on January 17, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    Disclaimer: I don't like the Pakistan cricket team. With that being said, it's sickening that every time either one of England or Australia get demolished by a subcontinental bowler (be it Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan or *gasp* Bangladeshi) the talk is always about whether or not the bowler has a legal action. Why can't these two teams ever admit to having just been dominated by a bowler they couldn't read instead of always looking for such excuses?

  • on January 17, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    Please read the article properly. The English players are not complaining it was the media. Prior even said his team mates had to take responsibility for a poor display with the bat.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    If doosra has a different action, why can't the batsmen read it?

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:52 GMT

    Grapes are sour? No no Sours are grapes here :P lol @ Willis :D

  • fannybaws on January 17, 2012, 21:51 GMT

    He has been investigated before. Leopard never changes his spots and all that

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    England you can play only in flt pitches;see ur batting crumbled against india and now it is against pakistan.you guys just can't play spin properly.I personally believe your batting line u can;t score quickly also very poor against spin...UR lower middle score some runs and that out u in a decent score always...trott and cook should learn how to hit sixes ...

  • Pacelover on January 17, 2012, 21:48 GMT

    The only point that I agree with Willis on is that england should be encouraging spinners to develop doosras rather than sticking to battered old coaching manuals. This performance of Englands was more about application and technique, Ajmal did not look unplayable while Prior was on strike because Prior didnt hide his Bat behind his pad or play cross batted shots.

    We have been through all these arguements with Murali for the last decade. Im glad Englands players at least are not hiding behind these excuses and should focus on the hard job of trying to salvage this Test match.

  • dmqi on January 17, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    Poor Bob Willis, you do not need to tell now that your English cricketers need to practice doosra, just ask Mushtak, he will train your players. You feel sorry for 97 for 8 right? Well, England can do that if you ask Ajmal to train some English cricketers. Do not create troubles, OK, we want to enjoy good cricket.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:23 GMT

    Noone's making excuses for the english batsmen's mistakes, just pointing out that Ajmal's action looks a bit dodgy, which I agree with. I'm not an ICC expert on the matter, but the footage and stills I've seen of him recently have been pretty suspect. Nobody's happier than I (as an Australian) to see England taking a beating, but if Ajmal's action warrants a closer look then it'd be a mistake not to look into it. By the way: so what if his action's been cleared in the past? Bowlers don't get a lifetime free pass for not overstepping when they're being watched - they're watched every ball (in theory, at least) and if they break the law they're punished. To me, the fact that his action has been questioned in the past should put him under greater scrutiny, not less.

  • Javed2010 on January 17, 2012, 21:16 GMT

    England need a class batsman to face class bowling, it is pakistan team. when its play with full potential, no team can match ..... only Australian can play with some degree of this top class bowling...... sorry english team....

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    ICC should take action against these kind of commentators and should issue notices to media..they should stop distrubingo players in the middle of game....Paksitani media should play a role here to counter them.....but our media doesnt talk without money....you never know if west will issue some cheques then Pakistani media will joint british media......anywayz...lets hope for the best..day 2 will be very interesting..

  • kalyankk1985 on January 17, 2012, 21:12 GMT

    Subcontinent teams cannot play english and australian conditions! Other teams cannot play in subcontinent conditions! I guess we can start guessing the results based on teams and the pitches! No need to wait for the game to finish!!

  • johnathonjosephs on January 17, 2012, 21:12 GMT

    Its really pathetic to see the naivety of the English and Australian teams. The rule of 15 degrees was not made to accomodate the doosra. The rule of 15 degrees was made to accomodate ALL bowlers including fast bowlers when found out that almost nobody can bowl under 10 degrees. The only bowlers that could were usually part timers and unsuccesful bowlers. Bowlers like McGrath, Lee, Wasim, Waqar, almost anybody successful bowled within 10-15 degrees. After much experimenting, they found that for actual throwing when to the eyes, it became visibly a throw, the degrees were in the mid 20's. They then made the 15 degree rule to rule out any instances of chucking. Rule was NOT made for the doosra but for all spiners and fast bowlers as well. Aus/English players have done this many times, questioning the legality of reverse swing and the doosra. They made Murali (best bowler in the world) an outcast because of this and I hope to god that they don't ruin Ajmal.

  • Desihungama on January 17, 2012, 21:09 GMT

    The batsmen are allowed to move their hands in any direction, hold their bats in anyways, hit switch, switch-hit whatever the batsmen tried to do is considered innovation. So what's the fuss about a bowler being innovative with his wrists?

  • zaf100 on January 17, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    Ajmal shouldn't be worried about any negative comments made by Bob Willis or any other English journalist because he is a genius. Bob is just pathetic because no English bowlers can bowl dosra. Remember 1992 when Wasim and Waqar bowled reverse swing until Darren Gough learn the trade whole of English mediai was very negative about reverse swing. Best answer is to win series against England and shut everyone. Keep up the good work Ajmal they are just jealous. Who is stopping English bowlers to learn dosra Bob ?

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    Bob Willis was a mediocre bowler in his times. His place is in an old home!

  • cricket_pak419 on January 17, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    One thing that im really proud about is that Pakistan have done this on the first day of the match and first day of the series. Keep on making us proud pakistan!

  • Aberdian on January 17, 2012, 21:07 GMT

    Well played Ajmal, but could posters actually read the article before mouthing off about how the England team are complaining about his action? The whole point is that they're not...the media are a whole different story though.....

  • JG2704 on January 17, 2012, 21:02 GMT

    @SSFH on (January 17 2012, 19:41 PM GMT) Listened to the commentary on the radio. Vaughan and Agnew etc made nothing of Ajmal's action. What you could do is have the commentary from the radio and the pictures from the TV or the other thing you could do is continue to listen to the Sky commentary team and then boo about their opinions.@jimmy2s on (January 17 2012, 19:56 PM GMT) Why don't you try and contact him via the Sky website. My guess is that he was querying the action which Swann having long or short sleeves on his short has nothing to do with. But well done for being so observant.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:58 GMT

    Should England teach it was bobs question... my question is does he think saqi and ajmal were taught to bowl like that by the academies? Pathetic

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:44 GMT

    typical english learn to face but they cant od that i guess ajmal is no.1 bowler in the world u cant play him so accuse him of his action

  • drnaveed on January 17, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    come on ENG be realistic,before the match one of your commentator was saying that last year PAK did well ,but they didnt played against a top side, but today,when they (PAK)played, they showed that they are also a top ranked side.instead of giving credit to the PAK team you are trying to take the credit away from them. you always keep crying.instead of looking at poor performance of your team,you are trying to take away credit from SAEED AJMAL,the truth is your batsmen cannot even play straight balls coming at them,leave doosra or teesra.mind you it is a neutral ground ,not our home ground.if you are number one ranked side than prove it with your performance in the ground, and not from outside the ground as your commentators/experts have started doing from the first day of the series.

  • ZA77 on January 17, 2012, 20:37 GMT

    If Saeed was not taking so many wickets then everything is OK. It is not first time, after loosing match in one world cup, one expert was blaming umpire of Pakistan. But unable to understand that wrong decisions are part of game. Main thing was that your team was unable to transform. In 1987 world cup, Imran Khan was not out but umpire had given him out at critical moment. Also one run out of David Boon by Miandad given not out by umpire. Now they should be able to accept abilities of others. Swan was saying something about Ajmal before match. Now what should be his opinion regarding him. So accept realities and stop blaming others.

  • n4nasser on January 17, 2012, 20:36 GMT

    Wait till English master the art of "Doosra"... they will be applauding their bowlers. Just like they did with reverse swing. If I remember correctly, it was the English media who went after Wasim and Waqar when they were confusing the English with their swing bowling. Suddenly it has become an "Art" now that JAmes Anderson can do it. Stop moaning. You were outplayed by an excellent bowler - get over it.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    England really missed Butt, Asif and Amir. Bravo Saeed Ajmal.

  • Zahidsaltin on January 17, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    Same old English way. Now that they are hammered to their knees, they will use the media to pressurize Ajmal. It won't work. You are simple not good enough to be no. 1

  • Hayes.Adam on January 17, 2012, 20:28 GMT

    The boy (Ajmal) had a great day at the office, and no body can take away that from him, English Batsmen need to step up to the challenge, never mind our media.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    this is old approach by English and Aussie players to discourage an up coming talent from Asia specifically. they should face heat like men.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Lol! Sour Grapes! Nothing can describe it better. When they could not reverse the bowl, it was illegal according to them. Now, they have learned it..so its fine...Similarly..they can't bowl doosra..so its illegal that someone else is doing it with perfect..so now its illegal according to them... Thats the limit of being biased! InshALLAH! Pakistan will ROCK and embarrass these so called exerts and leave them no place to hide.

  • bajwa_rulez on January 17, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    Too much man ,, these people just dont stop barking . they thought by claiming aamir aasif and butt they have made us week but they were wrong ,, now whoz next there willl be more claims coming through

  • bharath74 on January 17, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    There is no off spinner in the world who can bowl doosra with a clean action, i think Ajmal and Hafeez action is questionable. Even Harbhajan's action for some deliveries is questionable. We are tweaking the rules every now and then, moreover bowlers with questionable action should not be allowed to wear full selves so that we can see the action clearly . We have two options either Ban the doosra or tweak the rules a bit more.

  • ShanTheFanOfSachin on January 17, 2012, 20:16 GMT

    How many times England played the likes of Murali,Harbhajan,Saqulain all who bowl the doosra.. Why is this being taken up only now?? This was bound to happen the moment England became number 1 and they don't do well. This is a ridiculous statement and being considered as a legitimate claim by Cricinfo which is sad. If not Ajmal's action,then it would have been 'whether ICC should approve venues based on ceratin conditions because places such as Dubai are too hot to play cricket over days as per scientists'.. Great.. I think its now become habit of these English commentators and English media to complain about everything when their team don't do well. Please get on with the game..

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:16 GMT

    The English should only play in England. Please.

  • wc1992 on January 17, 2012, 20:11 GMT

    great response from the MAN AJMAL.... to england we may not have WW Imran, Javaed or Akahtar ... but remember we are Pakistan its in our blood keep fighting even if we have no arm

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:10 GMT

    I think that it should not be a problem that spinners are allowed 15 degrees of arm bending to bowl... its not like they are now firing the ball in at 160 kph... there are so many advantages given to batsmen like free hits and powerplay... i think its about time some restrictions are lifted from bowlers too... also England should just admit they cant play against ajmal rather than blaming it on his action... England should talk with their cricket rather than finding excuses.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    well really sour grapes. would be really shameful if thats the reply poms can come up with.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    First bouncers were banned because the Aussies and English no longer had bowlers who could bowl them. Then reverse swing was cheating because the Aussies and English did not have bowlers who could reverse swing, then lets ban the yorker, because the Aussies and English no longer had bowlers who could bowl yorkers. Then it was time to discuss the banning of the doosra, because there was no way it was legal, as no Aussie or English bowler could bowl it. Let me guess what next .... too many LBW decisions.

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    lol....

    England got doosra'd....plain and simple.

    Pakistan zindabad!

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    plz england no lame excuses. just try to face what u r having at moment and concentrate on saving this test.

  • Nuxxy on January 17, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    The funny thing is that the straight arm rule came into the game to prevent 'chucking' fast bowlers. It's intention was never to stop skilled spin bowlers.

  • samudralakiku on January 17, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    Sour grapes is the right word. English media & players always gets under your skin if you perform well against them. No wonder it already started with one good performance. Ajmal is too good for English players and most other teams too in my opinion. Way to go Ajmal. Keep up the good work. Let your ball talk to them.

  • wrenx on January 17, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    Can Bob Willis explain exactly why it's alright for Graeme Swann to wear long-sleeves without having doubts cast over his integrity, but not Ajmal?

  • TestDaBest on January 17, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    Oh dear here we go again! The English media once again starts with their mind games. As Prior said, instead of making Ajmal's action an issue their batsmen should think about their footwork and technique against world class bowling. The problem is and I say with all due respect to my English friends that you guys are sore losers(talking about day 1), they just want to add masala(spice) to make it a news. There was no issue about any long sleeves when Ajmal played in England and didn't do as well neither when he played a whole season in county cricket so what is new now. His action has been cleared by a panel selected by ICC in the past. So kindly grow up and stop behaving like children and accept that the English batsmen were outplayed. Having said that I don't think that the Pakistani management should have allowed Ajmal to talk to the media on day 1 off the series especially even after being so familiar with the English media and the mind games they try and play on the opposition.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 17, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    Now England have a new excuse is it ? Ajmal's action ! well from what I know about Ajmal, his action is 100% genuine. I don't have a problem with it and so shouldn't the English players. Prior is a man enough to talk well about his lack of fear of slow bowling. But the fact remains England are WEAK against quality slow bowling. It's a genuine technical weakness Pakistan have to exploit in this series. I hope Graeme Swann does the same what Ajmal did since Swann is supposedly the world's 'best' off spinner. Interesting day ahead tomorrow. Can't wait !!

  • SSFH on January 17, 2012, 19:41 GMT

    English commentators and pundits are pethatic, they should focus on the awfull batting performance of theie batsmen, instead of trying to create another controversy out of nothing. This has become a norm now, whenever there is someone like Ajmal, performs to the levels these english cricketers can't even imagine to achieve, these controvercial comments are passed and whole new controversy is created. I hope Ajmal and Pakistani team mangement make a formal complaint to the ICC against these commentators/pundits, especially Bob Willis, or if these people don't fall under ICC's remit, he should file a civil suit against them. I suggest to these pundits to point out the deficiencies of english batsmen and give credit to Saeed Ajmal when its very much due. Please come out of your shells and recognise that there are much better cricketers/people outside England.

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    Well Well... some people can't digest the fact of another person brilliance and ones silly mistakes...

  • delastbastion on January 17, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    "THERE WERE MURMURS FROM FORMER PLAYERS AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA,.......how poetic ..............where do the english get off being authorities?..............is there some unwritten law which gives them a greater voice?..........Ajmal recently befuddled WI batsmen in mid 2011, since then he has gone on to torment SL and BD batsmen.............I'm sure the " FORMER PLAYERS AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA" saw some or all of those series and NOT A WORD WAS SAID.........for their sake (former players and media) and their hypocrasy alone, I hope that he, Ajmal goes on to wreak havoc among english batsmen in this series. we have a saying BARBADOS as it relates to the game of DRAUGHTS........" AN ODD IS NOTHNG TO A GREAT PLAYER" ..........stop trying to help ur boys with ur innuendos and mind games....theyre no1 let them perform as such........there are no unfair practices at play here.

  • ahmadj on January 17, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    Sour Grapes please grow up....wake up smell the coffee Bob Willis ECB....good sportsmanship / face saving Matt Prior

  • sirvivfan on January 17, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    I commented about this happening 2 weeks back in this site..... It is too predictable!when these guys achieve reverse swing it is all about skill, but when Wasim and Waquar did it, it was mischievous so it goes witth the old colonials. At least when it comes to economy they cannot say China cooks it's book, really they do not have the reserves! But some people in the west do believe they cook the books! What can you say except SOUR GRAPES! Riaz uk

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    Bob wills plz focus on cricket..you r not the master of world cricket...and stop being jealous of ajmal's doosra...

  • cric.info. on January 17, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    WELL WELL WELLLLL... though it was coming but not that soon i guess. As a sportsman you need to have high temperament to absorb the defeat,instead of thinking legalities with opponent. BY THE WAY did Ajmal bowled with a new arm action today!!! if cricket pundits had such law then why were they silent before!! IT WAS AJMAL'S DAY AND THUMBS UP FOR HIS PERFORMANCE, the mental work he puts in to make the batsmen play fool is his most sound technique and delivering his thinking he angles as little as routine bowlers do, he is not as variant as malinga, or bowler of decades murali. WELL DONE AJMAL.

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Look, English commentators and former players have to understand that they don't understand everything. Reverse swing was illegal and was not possible till English knew how to do it. They have to stop making excuses and learn how to deal with it. I am glad Prior said what he said. Also, Ajmal is not new to international cricket. He has bowling with the same action for the past 2-3 yrs. Why do the English media come up with excuses when we play against them? Why not make this fuss when Pakistan was playing Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, etc. Back in the days, it was the English media who proposed that every nation in West Indies should have their own team and a united West Indies should not be allowed. Then they put limit on number of bouncers, etc etc. My 2 cents - just shut up and play or pack your bags and go home!

  • baskar_guha on January 17, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    Great performance by Ajmal. To take 7 wickets on that track is not easy. IB's and KP's dismissal were just awesome deliveries.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    England seems to always have a problem against other nation's players! Quite your whining and play like a gentleman!

  • iori- on January 17, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    Typical - now they start crying again. ICC has already cleared his action long ago. Eng needs to learn how to bounce back when they're down rather than finding excuses. They should learn from Prior's innings. Play straight, and keep it simple rather making excuses.

  • cricket_fan_1980 on January 17, 2012, 18:46 GMT

    oh please. its perfectly legit. he's been bowling it for years now. everybody everywhere has seen it not a SINGLE other person has raised any concern, he just bowled at the world cup under the eyes of the entire cricketing world and no one raised this concern. why do the english have to be such cry babies. you've been outbowled, fair and square. man up. accept it. you lost the first session. you have a chance to fight back, so show it on the field. stop crying and finding excuses. it is simply quite pathetic. learn from your own team, who are trying to man up. please Mr Willis, this is really quite shameful and I am left a bit speechless by your behavior.

  • PAK-92 on January 17, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    Well that didn't take long did it. Just one day into the test series and Ajmal's action is being bought up. I doubt it would have, if Ajmal hadn't taken 7 wickets today. Anyway, England can't pick him and Ajmal will win the series for Pakistan, just as long as the Pakistani batsmen and fielding don't let us down.

  • Saad.Z.Khan on January 17, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Ajmal need not worry at all and must continue to baffle the English.....here's a limerick that I made for Ajmal's magical performance today at Dubai:

    In the desert there's a rumble! With England wickets all a-tumble, It was Ajmal who did the 'doosra', Without even needing the 'teesra', And making the poor English look oh-so-humble!

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    It's Something which is base-less. When ever someone performs well from India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka English or Australian media create statements which are not fair for the cricketing world. The ICC has changed the Rule for spinners where they can bowl by a certain length (I Guess 15 to 20 degree) Not sure. Saeed Ajmal has already been cleared from the ICC review panel also interestingly if the ICC had any issues with the bowling action of Ajmal, then they shouldn't made him the worlds no.1 bowler in the first place (which they don't.).

    I Guess its better to enjoy cricket as a sport and not create un-necessary issues. We all respect all other teams like we respect Team Pakistan. Thanks

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    Ajmal will soon be the No. 1 Bowler in test format as well..Well Played Ajmal!! Hats Off!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    i don't think so there is any problem with Ajmal's and I am sure current English team will never make an issue for that.. and If Englishmen wants to train their young guns.. then why not .. do it :) Saqlain is already in england.. ask him to train young brit spinners..:) Fascinating game on our hands

  • TTking on January 17, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    Ajmal is just pure class and a gentleman. To bowl so superbly and then questioned about his action by the media and not react angrily is a true test of his character, he has a very level head. One of my favorite bowlers, hope Narine from T & T can become just as great as him.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    They are unconcerned because they already got media concerned. Nothing new and nobody should be surprised because if English batsmen can't play a bowler then there is something wrong with the bowler, they never question their skills which they lack in many departments. But the No. 1 Test team will be shown the skills they lack over next few days :-)

  • stormy16 on January 17, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    This is another pathetic whinge detracting from the success of an opponent. The law on the 15 degrees has been in place for over ten years and the doosra was in to the game years before that. The English havent been good enough to master it and are doing what the do best - whinge!! The did the same when the Windies bounced them mercilessly. The way the game has been played has changed and the English havent been able to add anything but have been awfully successful with traditional cricket. Doesnt mean you need to find fault at someone elses' success.

  • mustufa on January 17, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    And the crying already began. Give England a chance folks they have world class bowlers they will be back in the game, but crying over Ajmal is such nonsense, all I can say is grow up please.

  • yorkslanka on January 17, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    Absolutely pathetic that ajmals action is being questioned..having been through this for years as a Sri lankan fan with murali, this is de ja vu..this is plain jealousy for the wannabes of the past and well done to prior for stating he had no issues with ajmal..

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    sour grapes....ajmal played against england in england but i guess its not a huge issue for england when they're winning is it? accept you werent good enough today and move on. no one on sky sports had an issue with it other than bob willis, it begs the question if it is really worth questioning someone's bowling action on the opinion of a has-been?

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Such a shame. Take your punches with dignity.

  • OhhhMattyMatty on January 17, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    Prior's inning was world class. He is the best player of spin bowling in the world presently. Murali had all sorts of bother getting him out!

  • true.trini on January 17, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    does the icc now have to alter another rule to suit batsmen? the majority of rules and more often than not, the conditions that they play in favour batsmen considerably more than bowlers. maybe teams should stop picking bowlers, just set up bowling machines at both ends of the wicket!!!! come on mr. willis give the guy a break, he just bowled a magnificent spell against probably the most powerfull batting line-up in the world at the moment, in conditions that offered little or no help. we could see a more even contest here, considering whats been happening around the world, test cricket needs this!!!!

  • zee_gee on January 17, 2012, 17:49 GMT

    I Just want England only once to play against Pakistan without crying.........just once, come on England you are better than that. you are world class, should rise to the occasion..and dont let these tactics tarnish ur image............

  • AdnanSiddiqui on January 17, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    Nothing unusual or unexpected from former English players and their media...

    Tomorrow's headline: Taufeeq Umar and Azhar Ali are too slow - this is un-ethical to bat like this on flat pitches .. ICC should take action against this slow batting !

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    now the english gonna cry and cry out loud.. when i was watching the magical performance of ajmal i was literally thinking that poor guy doesnt know that controversies will be coming his way because he has done what the english never thought of..

  • Mohmd.Ali on January 17, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    English people are so proud and their media is such a drama...Could have been easily a bad start for England which can happen to anyone (there are still four days left, anything can happen) but it turns out that it was not their fault by any chance. Sigh...

  • Bill.W on January 17, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    Pakistan had a great day, England had a poor one, is that any reason to start a controversy regarding a bowler. If the results were the other way and england had ended the day on 300 for 2, nothing would have been said!! -

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Ajma, forget about what Willis have to say, it is typical of an english pundit; when ever their team is not doing well they find the excuses; and by the way only valid deliveries are the ones that english bowlers could bowl, once they can't it is obviously illegal - remember reverse swing.

    Kudos to Prior for not engaging into the speculations, and I hope that the english team will not trigger controversies , and leave that rubbish to english media and pundits

  • jrben on January 17, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    It didn't take long for ENG to start complaining, did it? First it was against Murali and now Ajmal is in the firing line. Just accept that you are hopeless and clueless against top class spin.

  • salman_0902 on January 17, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Bad criticism at the wrong time. It's time to for good stuff. I would suggest good cricket. Let the better win.

  • hassan13 on January 17, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Very sad that a guy who was in the clear and who would not have been criticized had he not been so successful is being treated this way. He took on the english batsmen on a flat pitch- not a turner and he got the better of them. He took on and defeated the best batting line up in the world and has to now defend his trade. Sad ending to a great day.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:28 GMT

    Why can't England take it like a man and move on? WHy do the media always have to complain about some "injustice"done to them

  • khurramsch on January 17, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    very well said by prior & am realy surprised & pleased by his words. and about bob's coments. if problem with dosra then change icc's rule. if ECB doesnt allow it but its in icc book then whoever can bowl will always bowl. & the FACT is that this cry is rightly "sour grapes one" as mentioned in article. the fact is that only ian bell fell to a great delivery which was dosra rest was due to poor judgement & batting.but that is not going to digest by pudits who thinks they are superior & their batsmen are super humans

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    oh come on England he bowled well and now you guys are in trouble accept it and move on you guys are current champs so words like this from you is totally stupid. Please bowl well today and give us fight. I want a challenging series not like India much hyped team lost 4-0 and now 3-0 which could be 4 -0 so please move forward and fight hard. Well done Saeed bhai you are the best. We are proud of you. Sorry Mr. Gooch you guys unable to pick him :)

  • correctcall on January 17, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    He has prior form and has had remedial action. It is his latest round arm Toorsra(?) that looks the most dubious. Great bowling effort but he sails pretty close to the wind.

  • badmaash on January 17, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    Wow - I am inspired by Saeed Ajmal's humility and work ethic. His comment about left handers should be taken in the context of Hussey's onslaught in the T20 semi-final. Instead of getting wrapped up in self-doubt, he worked hard on his bowling against left handers and it has paid off today. Hats off to a great sportsman.

  • azhar_hassan on January 17, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    Great bowling by Saeed Ajmal - full credit to him and to Pakistan for taking the fight to England. Hope the Pakistani batsmen can take advantage of the wonderful bowling performance and build a good innings on what seems to be a good wicket to bat on. Hope the focus will be on the cricket rather than conjuring up yet another controversy.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    Good response, let them make excuses.

  • funkyandy on January 17, 2012, 17:15 GMT

    So now the man who took more test wickets in 2011 is supposedly cheating?? Funny how no one else raised these concerns before. Saeed played for Worcs last season, so England had the chance to have a close look! But as soon as England start losing.... etc etc.... Also, when England's off spinner Graeme Swann suddenly became a world beater (after several anonymous years on the English County treadmill), no one questioned the legality of his deliveries.... despite seemingly coming from nowhere!! Get used to it England, you are playing AGAINST the best off-spinner in the world, not with him!!

  • Bilal94 on January 17, 2012, 17:15 GMT

    Oh come on English Media you could have waited to start your crying and pointless controversies until you lost the test

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Sir Ajmal rise above the weepers.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:11 GMT

    I am a loss to remember if England "pundits" and press EVER thought Pakistan beat them fairly. and I speak as someone who has been following cricket between these two countries for the last 25 years~!

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Very disappointed by Bob Willis response.... Thought cricket was a gentlemen's game. Is it hard for English team to win with 11 players on the ground without the outside support ? can't they do without creating controversy,is it the first time are they facing Ajmal's doosra or has he changed his action ?????

  • abdulsamad14 on January 17, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    The thing that strikes me is that the teams are all 100% fine with the action, and England know it had nothing to do with Ajmals action, he was just to good for them today. Ironicaly its the media shouting about and stiring stuff up when there isnt any, because it makes for better stories and more sales. Just stop complaining and admit that TODAY you were 2nd best English media :) god- i sound like a proper pakistani supporter now :P

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    So, once again an issue! Point to note, this generation of english cricketers is a far more poitive side than their seniors. So hopefully issue will die soon.

  • JustOUT on January 17, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    This is utter non-sense from so called English former greats. If they cannot read a bowlers action, that does not mean his bowling is not legitimate. Good on Prior to speak on cricket instead of crying like his predecessor.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    I'm a Sri Lankan and i'm disappointed but not surprised by this baseless allegation against Ajmal. Just like they did with Murali. They see a great spinner they can't play and they complain

  • elimomin on January 17, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    well ajmal is quite tricky bowler to judge. better luck for english batsmen next time.

  • Obsidian_pk on January 17, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Sour grapes indeed. Saeed Ajmal is by far the best spinner in the world, and will continue to be the undisputed number 1 spin bowler untill his retirement. He is miles ahead of the rest!!

  • KarachiKid on January 17, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Good response from Saeed Ajmal. He is a class act. Also great spirit from English players. I have a feeling that players from both sides are trying to avoid any conflict and play tough cricket.

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  • KarachiKid on January 17, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Good response from Saeed Ajmal. He is a class act. Also great spirit from English players. I have a feeling that players from both sides are trying to avoid any conflict and play tough cricket.

  • Obsidian_pk on January 17, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Sour grapes indeed. Saeed Ajmal is by far the best spinner in the world, and will continue to be the undisputed number 1 spin bowler untill his retirement. He is miles ahead of the rest!!

  • elimomin on January 17, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    well ajmal is quite tricky bowler to judge. better luck for english batsmen next time.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    I'm a Sri Lankan and i'm disappointed but not surprised by this baseless allegation against Ajmal. Just like they did with Murali. They see a great spinner they can't play and they complain

  • JustOUT on January 17, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    This is utter non-sense from so called English former greats. If they cannot read a bowlers action, that does not mean his bowling is not legitimate. Good on Prior to speak on cricket instead of crying like his predecessor.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    So, once again an issue! Point to note, this generation of english cricketers is a far more poitive side than their seniors. So hopefully issue will die soon.

  • abdulsamad14 on January 17, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    The thing that strikes me is that the teams are all 100% fine with the action, and England know it had nothing to do with Ajmals action, he was just to good for them today. Ironicaly its the media shouting about and stiring stuff up when there isnt any, because it makes for better stories and more sales. Just stop complaining and admit that TODAY you were 2nd best English media :) god- i sound like a proper pakistani supporter now :P

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Very disappointed by Bob Willis response.... Thought cricket was a gentlemen's game. Is it hard for English team to win with 11 players on the ground without the outside support ? can't they do without creating controversy,is it the first time are they facing Ajmal's doosra or has he changed his action ?????

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:11 GMT

    I am a loss to remember if England "pundits" and press EVER thought Pakistan beat them fairly. and I speak as someone who has been following cricket between these two countries for the last 25 years~!

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Sir Ajmal rise above the weepers.