Pakistan v England 2011-12

Flower wants DRS rethink

George Dobell

January 20, 2012

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Andy Flower discusses England's first Test defeat, Dubai, January, 20, 2012
England coach Andy Flower is unsure of the requirement for DRS to provide categorical proof to overturn a decision © Getty Images
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England coach Andy Flower defended the effectiveness of the decision review system but said the protocol when using the technology needed to be reviewed.

The England coach visited the match referee Javagal Srinath in the latter stages of the Test to seek an explanation after England captain Andrew Strauss was adjudged to have been caught behind, even though there was no evidence from hot spot that he had hit the ball.

Earlier Saeed Ajmal had also been given out to a catch at short leg that where hot spot was unavailable and replays suggested the ball had missed both Ajmal's bat and gloves. Flower believes the protocol where a third umpire requires categorical proof of an error before overturning a decision might need to be reviewed.

"With DRS, we get more decisions right, so I think it's a good addition to the game," Flower said. "I think Ajmal's dismissal was worse than Strauss'. It was very obviously not out. Strauss was unfortunate, one of those examples where technology didn't come up with the right decision.

"I certainly don't think a side should lose a review in those circumstances. It wasn't proven one way or the other whether they hit it or missed it, so I think the protocol does need looking at.

"I wanted to have a chat with Srinath about both those decisions. We're always looking for consistency from umpires and there was certainly inconsistency about the way Ian Bell's decision was handled in the Sydney Test and how Strauss' was handled here. But in the main they've a very tough job so I wouldn't want to criticise them too much."

Flower also suggested the England players' long break from their last Test - in August against India - might have been a contributory factor in this defeat. "I hope that doesn't sound like excuse-making but it is part of the reason," he said. "Some have had two months off cricket, some as much as four months off, so that could be part of the reason we underperformed so badly in this Test.

"We badly under-performed with the bat and, even though the ball wasn't turning much, we didn't deal with it skilfully. We made poor decisions. We made it look harder than it was to be quite frank.

"It was a bit of a shock," Flower said. "Look, we played poorly and we particularly batted poorly. Test cricket is a tough game and if you keep on batting like that you will be punished. Pakistan were good enough to do so.

"We haven't had that much time working together since India, although I thought our preparation at the academy here was excellent. The two first-class games were good and the opposition provided good competition. There were no problems on that front. With three tours of the sub-continent this year, all of them important, our play against spin very obviously has to be a lot better than that."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (January 23, 2012, 22:49 GMT)

I think Andrew was clearly out ...... No question the hot spot also showed it DRS is good ..... It seems that the english men when falls in there own traps like to find the way out from it ,,,, Bust the defeat have badly hit them and there position on international level.

Posted by StoneRose on (January 23, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

Don't know if I agree: Ajmal's was a bad decision, regardless. Strauus was out - there was a noise.

Posted by ifti_m on (January 23, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

I suppose DRS ought to include sound detection along with hotspot to detect faint nicks that aren't picked by hotspot or missed due to some malfunction at that instant. Inclusion of two technologies would make the system more robust and less prone to error... Idea is to raise the probability of detection as close to one as possible while keeping false alarms probability near zero.

Posted by kam_uk on (January 23, 2012, 10:02 GMT)

Not sure if anyone has seen this article about DRS , it makes very intersting reading- http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/548069.html Like many I believe DRS to be an important innovation but it obviously needs to be modified. Hotspot is very unreliable and should be scrapped, Snickometer is a much more reliable tool to judge edges anyway. I also agree with choo 4 20- DRS should only be there to take out howlers, unfortunately it is being used as gamesmanship by the players to try their luck on decisions which is an abuse of the system. In the recent Pk v SL series there were only allowed 1 failed review per innings. Players were alot more careful with its use and it was only used for the howlers. Perhaps 1 failed review rather then 2 would be better.

Posted by karthik_raja on (January 23, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

@Si Baker.. If u understand the conversation clearly, its not the result of match v r talking abt.. Its abt using a false technology, spending huge amnt of money to make fun of Umpires and their decisions.. My question is very simple - why shud v hav two decisions for any case.. Remove Umpires r remove DRS.. Let one of them make decisions all the time.. If u go by DRS, make it consistent across the world and let ICC handle and standardize it..

Posted by karthik_raja on (January 23, 2012, 6:56 GMT)

@Kopravian.. Ur argument sounds silly.. Whn Ind is forced to use DRS in WC, why shud SRT not use it..?? Going by ur comment, u live by principles it seems.. If u hv a principle of not eating sweets, u wont eat @ any cost.. rite..?? Even if u r in gun point forcing to eat a sweet.. May b u will rather die than taking sweet.. Hats off to u my dear bro(think u r a pakistani, I am a Indian bro)..

Posted by karthik_raja on (January 23, 2012, 6:48 GMT)

Mr Andy..?? R u doing/saying this..?? can't believe wt I am reading now.. Btw, wt were u doing whn Dravid was dismissed in last test and first ODI in Eng wid all help of DRS(without enuf evidence).. No, I didn't expect u to turn against DRS r comment against DRS.. All I expected was a simple/humble statement -"Dravid is Unfortunate".. I didn't hear even a single of that kind frm ur camp..?? I hv a gr8 respect for u.. Bt, didnt expect this from u.. Bad..

Posted by rocky2801 on (January 23, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

So Mr. Flower wants DRS rethink and convert a dubious onfield decision by another dubious overturn by tv umpire. Please understand that the tv umpire decisions of not overturning because there is no conclusive proof is the best in current circumstances. By changing this process Mr. Flower, you are allowing an opportunity for adding another wrong decision to be taken by tv umpire (what if it did hit and was not caught by technology and the onfield umpire was right?) then overturning would be another wrong decision right?. On second thoughts lets do what you suggest.. it will help to prove how useless the current technology of hotspot is.. once a few right decisions because they are reviewed are wrongly overturned.With HotSpot not being upto mark,the pathetic line that DRS should be continued but more complexity and errors be brought into play by adding another decision making process at tv umpire stage is the product of a fuddled brain.. which has been done so by the spinning ball...

Posted by karthik_raja on (January 23, 2012, 6:40 GMT)

Wt wud hv happened in this forum if an Indian hv told/done this..?? Any guesses.. plzz... Btw, whn Dhoni's remarks abt continuous cricket played by Indians r considered as excuses, wt whud b told abt "lack of cricket" comments by Flower/Prior..?? English fans.. please enlighten me with ur most unbiased thoughts.. Its always wonderful to hear from u.. esp.. U.. dear @5wombats..

Posted by SRT_GENIUS on (January 23, 2012, 4:11 GMT)

DRS is not the reason why you lost dude! Look somewhere else for excuses.

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